#2159 - Sal Vulcano

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What's up Sal? What's up brother? how you doing good to see you man. What's cracking?

Thanks for having me, man.

My pleasure, what are you doing out here, man? What are you doing in Austin, Texas?

My special comes out today, actually. oh shit, yeah, special called Terrified.

What's it on?

YouTube.

That's the move.

Yeah.

Yeah, I'm very happy when guys do that. It makes it easily accessible, it's the best thing for distributing your stuff, people share it easy.

It's nice that that's a good option now, because when everybody turns you down.

It's a great option.

It's still like, Well, I still got a good option.

I would think about it even if I had other options at this point, right? Just because I think it's the best distribution platform. As long as they don't fucking censor you, which is a little bit of an issue.

Yeah.

They're owned by Google. And it's just like, whenever you're dealing with these giant corporations and there's all these fucking woke kids working for them. It's a lot of sketchy things happen, yeah, but as far as a platform, it's the best.

It's great, right?

Oh, it's so good.

I don't really like, I'm not edgy like that, so I don't really have any of that. my edgier stuff is not that edgy.

That's good.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's lucky, yeah, because Ari Shaffir when he was putting his out, I was like,....

He executive produced it.

Oh, he executive produced yours. Yeah, oh, that's nice.

We're really tight, yeah.

We were just talking about someone gave him shit for releasing his on YouTube. I'm like, you're so short-sighted, that's so stupid.

I look at it now.

Yeah, it's fucking huge, what does it have, like 7 million downloads or something like that? Yeah, people are stupid, man, they just have this silly idea of these gatekeepers, these fucking institutions.

Did you watch The Throat? Three hours? No.

I watched Tony Hinchcliffe's set and Andrew Schultz's set, that's it. Did you see Nicky's? I heard Nicky's was awesome. I haven't seen it yet. I heard Nicky killed it.

Yeah, she does. she kills those roasts, man. yes, she kills those roasts.

She's really good at roasts.

She's strong.

She's got strong delivery, you know, she's got. And even when she was shitting on Jeff Ross, I did see that part when she was apologizing to him while she was shitting on him. Which is so Nicky Glazer.

That Hinchcliffe one with the Liver King, you look like the I don't want to fuck it up. But the Liver King and the Tiger King had a baby that looked like Martin Luther King.

Beat up by Rodney King.

Beat up by Rodney King and bit by the Lion King, some shit like that, I don't even know. It was a ride.

It was such a ride.

By the time he finished it, it was just like.

It was a monster bit.

It was Five Kings, I think.

It was a monster bit. And then the other one, with Jeff, is so Jewish he only watches football for the coin toss.

You know what's so funny? It's like, you know the Jewish? it's like, you know where you're going with Jeff or Jewish or whatever, but it's like, you. Still, I still find a new way to be. Like, you watch it for the coin toss, you know what I mean?

It's just.

For whatever reason, it feels like it dipped a little bit that whole....

I feel like people are tired of it all, they realize that it's all just fucking sanctimonious. Horse shit. You want any coffee? I've got some coffee.

Maybe after this throat coat.

Oh, throat coat, have you been doing a lot of shows?

Is that what it is actually? I have?

Oh, you got the Covid?

No, my baby got me sick. Oh yeah.

That'll do it. Those little kids get sick a lot, yeah.

I was fighting it for a while and then a few days ago, it just died.

Do you take vitamins?

Every single day and I get mocked for it.

You should not get mocked.

My dad growing up, he used to take.

What do you think causes your weak immune system? Have you ever thought about it?

Yeah, I think about it my whole, entire life.

What do you think it is? Do you think it's just a genetic thing?

I don't know because no one else in my family is like that. So that's what led me to becoming a little bit of a germaphobe, because you want to call it germaphobe. But I just know that if I put myself in the way of, like, if someone sneezes, if I put myself in that, sometimes I can get a common cold. How long does it take you to get rid of the common cold?

Like a day.

Yeah, but you're like, you eat elk, and.

Yeah, I've had a few that last a couple of days, but it's usually one day before. I don't feel good. But I've only had a couple of those recently and I assumed they were the new Covid. Oh, really, yeah, I assumed....

And you got rid of it in a day.

Yeah, I assumed this last one I got was the new Covid, this last one I got. I didn't even do the IV vitamins, I was just too busy to sit down and....

What are they calling it New Coke?

There's so many strains, dude.

Yeah.

I think we did a thing where they were trying to.

I thought there was like four strains.

No, no, no, no, there's dozens, yeah, and they keep coming around, new ones come around.

So that doesn't bode well for me, but I.

Do you ever do IV vitamins?

I've only done it twice in my life, it's so funny. I shot the special in December in Chicago and the day of. I woke up and I had a cold because I was just running myself into the ground, right? So I woke up. My throat was like it was hurting me.

Right, he's into those.

Yeah, they're like, a billion percent, whatever, right? So he's feeding me those and then I get to the place and they get me the IV and the guy gives me a B12 shot. Yeah, and then I had just started vyvanse, what's that?

And I was ready to stroke out.

I was holding my hand and it was doing this.

Oh, Jesus Christ.

And I was like, Ari, you gave me three of these fucking things today. Every one of them has 200 milligrams of caffeine. Oh my God, he's like, I didn't give you three, I'm like, you gave me three.

Oh my god, what a combination.

I didn't use one second from Show One.

Oh my god.

Not one second.

Is it like Adderall, or is it because it's Adderall?

It's basically Adderall, Yeah, it's like the same exact thing.

And why did you think you needed that? Why do you think you needed Adderall?

I mean, I suffer from ADHD and a little OCD for like, my whole life.

So what does that mean, like when you say ADHD, how does it manifest itself in your life?

So many ways, mainly the thing that affects my life is I can't focus. I can't focus on something for, especially if I'm like, up and down days. But I can't focus on something for more than like, if I'm trying to complete something, I won't complete it.

Like, what kind of stuff?

Like, if I'm writing, or if I have just stuff to do, anything at all, paying bills, anything. Where I have to use my mind. I'll plant my ass down and I'll be trying to write or send an email or whatever. My leg is shaking like crazy because I don't want to sit there.

Is it with everything you read, or is it only some stuff? Is there anything that you read where? That's not a problem?

Books are tough, like long-form reading.

Like fiction or nonfiction.

Just a lot of pages in between two covers. The genre doesn't play into the fact.

There's not one book that just captivated you and you easily could read it.

Yeah, like I said, there's good and bad days. If I'm reading a biography or I'm really into it, I don't really read fiction.

Oh, okay.

Yeah, but I like biographies really.

Oh, okay.

If, something like that, but honestly, it's really tough. I really don't read as much, you know how many books I've bought? I have a lot of books, but so many aren't open.

You're like, one day I'm going to read that.

I have this guilt that I think about that I know I'm not going to do. I owe it to myself to read all these books and I just keep picturing myself on my deathbed, being like, the books, you know what I mean? I just want to read that book.

It is, but it's also nice to have books in your house.

It is.

I have this weird theory about books that I haven't read that are cool. It's like, at least they're near me. At least I'm getting the energy off of that book, that really good book, whoever wrote it, whatever it is.

Yeah, I can see that.

I know that book's awesome, it's sitting right there.

Yeah, yeah, I can't even listen to audio. Do you think audio books would be the solve? It doesn't help you.

It's hard, but a lot of them are really good at it. There's some really good voiceover actor guys.

Yeah.

Including they do fiction, so they do a bunch of different voices. It's a real art form now, it's almost like old timey radio stories or something.

Yeah, that I love, I love it. My buddy I do a show with, he has a bunch of books published.

Fucking huge show dude, it's gigantic.

It's crazy.

Congratulations.

Thank you so much, thank you.

I remember when guys were talking about it in the parking lot of the store, when it was just blowing up. And people were talking about your shows that you were doing. You guys were doing shows and they were just mobbed and everybody was like, that show is huge.

Yeah, it was wild, not expected or anything, it was on True TV.

Yeah, which is not a network where people really blow up from. There's a few, though, but it just shows you if something's fun, people find it.

Yeah, there was nothing like it, they only did, they had no joke. They had two different pawn shows. This is when we got on, they had two different pawn shows, three different towing shows and two storage shows.

I heard a lot of those storage shows are for gazing.

So much of all the reality stuff is.

Oh, a lot of it is, yeah.

I mean, I'd say 95%.

There's a lot of finagling going on behind the scenes with the truth, just for narratives and stuff.

If you pause the credits, like, there's always like that fine print in the credits. Oh yeah, I think they have to say that.

They're allowed to, like, they use it to create a theatrical piece that's not necessarily representative of what actually happened. I mean, bro, they've been looking for Bigfoot for nine seasons now. Well, no, it's more than that, right? How many seasons of finding Bigfoot ghost versions of the show? That are like refinding him or resurfacing him?

Refinding him, refinding him. Looking again, there's so many.

So many fucking dorks in the woods looking for nothing.

Even ghost, it's like, I mean, people.

I'm more interested in ghost than I am bigfoot.

Me too.

Because the thing about Bigfoot is like, I think it was probably a real animal. And I think there's some ancient stories that are passed down for thousands of years. Sure, I think that's probably what it was, but ghosts are weird because they're in every culture, right?

Let me try.

Okay, you've seen one?

Didn't see one, but here's the thing I don't believe in ghosts.

Oh, okay.

But then I had this happen to me and now I don't really know what to feel.

Cue the spooky music, any spooky music over there, Jamie.

My family believes in ghosts, they're all for it. My sister had a thing, she lived at home, and she came home one day. And she opened the door to her room. And every single one of her closet drawers were open, every single thing that could be open in the room was open.

That's not that spooky, that's like the hulk.

I was about to get a massage.

Yeah, that was like waiting for the candles to be lit.

But my grandfather died in the house. But like, I don't know, but that's not what I was saying one night I was home.

You're scuba diving in your sleep, that's so crazy.

So I love it, so I wrap myself over my head and everything and what I really do. What's really fun when you're in there is to, like, just poke out a foot or a hand, that's really fun and just get like a cool breeze.

And then wonder about what's under the bed is going to bite your feet.

Sure, a little bit. It depends on the night, right? But like, you know.

That foot's out there dangling. I don't like haunts.

I will tell you that I don't believe in ghosts, but like haunted houses and scares, we can get into that later.

Wait a minute. What's the difference? What are they haunted by?

Well, like, you know, like fake ones, even. I'm saying, I don't even like the go-through. No, I don't like that shit, but it's less about.

That's funny because a guy likes to play jokes on people, you would think.

Yeah, I mean, well, do I really play jokes? I don't know what I do really? pranks.

It's fun, yeah.

It's crazy shit we did, but.

You don't like a good, haunted house. They jump out of nowhere and scare the fuck out of you.

I'll tell you how much I don't like that.

Did you want to really see a collection of shit that'll freak you out? Go to Zach Bagan's Thing in Vegas.

Oh, is that that thing where they get really weird with you?

He's got this.

Like, it's a visceral thing, like they put a gun in your throat and stuff like that.

No, no, no, no, no. He's got this crazy mansion in Vegas that's like a museum of haunted shit, a museum of like, they have Dr.

This is the one I had the thing on my, this is the.

He's stupid.

Yeah.

Corn is fucking scary to get lost in.

Corn Maze Yeah, it's terrible.

It's really weird. There's a place in California where they have a farm and they have a corn maze. You can walk around this maze. It's fun because, you know, you can eventually get out.

Going at night alone?

You get lost in this maze, you get really lost, and it's kind of confusing. And now, imagine this is thousands of acres, right? And you're in the center of it with no water.

You may as well be on, like the mountains, when people die.

People die in Cornfields, man, that's a real thing.

I mean, I feel like, yeah, it depends how dense it is. I mean, if I was ever in that situation, I just go straight and not stop.

I wonder how many people over in history have died in Cornfields? Just heat exhaustion. Eleven get lost.

Eleven Yeah.

That's what you think.

We had looked it up for real, no.

Let's guess, let's say a guess.

I want to guess, but then it's going to suck.

I think 11 is a solid number. I think 11 is a good guess, like 11 people over the course of America have died. In Cornfields, No.

Back in the day.

A lot.

Think about that.

But they didn't have monocrop agriculture back then.

I don't even know what that is.

That's like these giant cornfields, okay, where, like in this country right now, look this up because I think it's true. I think 5 of the land mass of the United States is being used for cornfields.

That's crazy.

That's wild, that's so crazy. I think that's correct.

The guy on my show that I was.

By the way, I just read the headline of that, I'll be real clear. Yeah, I didn't even read the whole article, I just read the headline.

Oh okay, okay, well, this guy....

So this might not be correct.

He put a cornfield in his yard, He has five acres. He built a cornfield registered as a farm so he could get tax breaks. He has to sell $50,000 worth of corn in order to get it.

So.

I'm trying to do that right now.

How much corn is $50,000 worth of corn?

No clue. It feels like a lot to me.

Isn't it funny that the government subsidizes corn?

It's wild.

Well, you know where it all came from, it came from World War II, so during the war. Like, people need food, and they wanted to make sure that in the future they would have stockpiles of food. You know, like the war just ended, but who knows what's going to happen now with Russia? We could be into it again.

Right?

That you're not supposed to use it for, like, oil, yeah, you know, or, you know, corn syrup.

Corn syrup, yeah.

That stuff's.

What? Wow? Oh, there's no shortage of that, then.

There's so much corn, okay? So like, what percentage of that is? California's got to be more than 5 of the country, right? Nah, you think so.

Really, what percentage of that corn do you think we're consuming and what's going to waste?

I don't know if it's a waste thing. It just goes because you can use it for so many different things. You can use it to make alcohol, you can use it to make corn syrup.

This is the first time like I've really, like in the last like 10 years or whatever. When I was a kid, we didn't eat it, I mean, like my parents, like I love them, but like we didn't eat fresh vegetables, we had canned everything.

It says about a third of America's corn crop is used for feeding cattle, hogs and poultry in the U.S. Corn provides the carbs in animal feed, while soybeans provide the protein. It takes a couple bushels of American corn to make corn-fed steak. By some estimates, a beef cow can eat a ton of corn if raised in a feedlot.

No.

It's great.

It's a good one.

It's a good one to watch. It's a giant industry that's not good for us. It's like all the things that it does, like you can do with other things, and you'll be better off.

Right, right, right.

It's captive.

It'll never change.

Also, corn on the cob is fucking delicious.

That's the best corn, it's great, that's the best form of corn.

There's nothing wrong with corn. I love corn on the cob, corn's great, I like cream of corn soup.

I haven't had that. Oh, I love that.

I love cream corn. you ever have cream corn at a steakhouse?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've had it.

Corn's great, don't get me wrong.

But on the cob, it's like the sweet corn, it's the best, that sweet corn.

Oh, with butter, butter and salt, when you take the butter, and the butter takes on the shape of the corn cob. Because you're just reckless, you're running a whole stick of butter around that.

You fill the whole, that's how I do it. Oh yeah, you hold the stick and go like this, Oh yeah, yeah.

Dude fucking sweet corn fresh off the grill with butter. Oh, one of the best things in the world.

It's just like a typewriter.

Oh my God, so delicious.

Three, four of those things.

So delicious.

I don't know why they're better and you take that same exact corn and you kind of put it, just take it off. It's good, but it's just better on the cob.

It's also you're getting the melted butter in all the kernels, and it's in your mouth while you're biting into it. Oh yeah, do you know what else? They used corn cobs for? what?

Whoa?

Can you imagine how rough their assholes were back then?

Because it catches. Why? because of the shape.

Because they had it, I think, because they just were just dummies, they were living in a dumb ass time. Early North American sailors used corn cobs. they were abundant, soft and easy to handle.

You ever think about how people would have sex back then? how would people still fuck back then?

They were disgusting things.

Think about how many years, it's only the last hundred years that people aren't disgusting.

Yeah, we were talking about St. Agnes, who went his whole life. Was it St. Agnes? Yeah.

His whole life, he copped to that.

Once a year, it was a lot. No, it wasn't even that it was like you were supposed to do that. Oh yeah, bathing was thought of as a ridiculous thing to do.

I mean, day three, it starts to be a problem. How long did he live?

I don't know what happens, I wonder what happens, what just happens. If you never bathe, we just assume that you have to bathe. Maybe that's the source of a lot of our problems.

Maybe that warded off-.

I bet it. No, it didn't do that, no, it didn't stop, right. No, not at all.

You don't think a T-rex would be like, ugh.

I don't know how we made it so far. I really don't. I really don't. I don't understand it. I mean, I know it was the invention of weapons and tools and stuff and building houses. But god damn, we're so weak.

Right, right, right, we're so bitch ass.

It's insane that we made it this far.

Yeah, it is, I guess just.-.

Just the fact that we even survived to the point where we made a bow and arrow, like how?

How did everything not just run up on us and eat us? I don't know. I always think about this, too. There's always the first time, first person. There was one person who was like, Oh shit, hold on a second, I guess.

I guess they probably stepped on things and cut themselves with it and then realized they could pick those things up and cut other things with it. And then they figured out how to make those things.

Yeah, and then we got email.

Then we got email.

Fast forward.

Fast forward, you got AI.

Yeah.

Fast forward, Yeah, I mean, could you fucking imagine being born in Africa 500,000 years ago?

If you put me in Africa now, if you put me in the forest right now.-.

In the Congo, right?

If you put me anywhere right now, I'm done. I don't know any, I don't know how to make a fire, I don't really, I don't know how to. I don't know anything, I can't explain anything, I can't explain to you how mirrors work.

Because some places, like I was reading this thing, no, it was actually Paul Rosalie, Paul Rosalie was talking about this. If you get caught in the Amazon. Do not try to make a fire because you won't be able to, and it'll break your spirit like you're not going to be able to make a fire.

I didn't think that's where you're going with that.

If you're lost in the Amazon, forget a fire, it's not going to happen.

Your broken spirit will kill you before the elements.

You will realize how hopeless your plight is when it is impossible for you to make a fire. So now you're going to realize that everything that you eat is going to be raw, and you're going to have to catch things and eat them raw. To stay alive. And now you're an animal.

No, I don't even know like I'd be on the trying to catch a small animal and strangle it. What am I going to do?

And the likelihood of them finding you is so small if you just go on a walkabout. If you're like some wacky dude who goes off his meds and decides to go on a walkabout in the Amazon, they're not going to find you.

So many walkabouts just don't turn out well.

A lot of them don't.

Why keep walking about it?

Well, why are walkabouts so romantic to us, you know, like that movie with the kid who, uh, what was the movie called? Where he lived in the bus in Alaska? Yeah, into the wild.

Oh yeah.

Into the wild It's so romantic to us for someone who just goes out into the wild. And even if the dude dies out there like that guy did.

Maybe there's some type of like, whether it be just finding yourself or like, just being at one with these elements as much as possible. Feels like something romantic, I guess.

Yeah, it feels like this understanding that we're disconnected from the rest of the world because.

Of what we've created, it gives perspective, for sure.

Perspective, I mean, it does give perspective. It's also like, the more disconnected we are, the more ridiculous we behave, like, where do people behave the most ridiculously?

Have you been through it all? Have you been through it all?

Yeah, I've been through the park, it's lovely.

Because it's like I thought I went to it, but then one day I, like, really went to it. It's like I went to like every area, which is, there's so many things I didn't know, it's really big, there's like 50 things like places.

It's a beautiful thing about New York City that they have that park in the center of it. It really changes the dynamic of the city. It does, I think it makes the city a more, a more livable place, a more friendly place. I mean, it's crazy that you have this insane urban environment and then inside you have this massive park.

It's like another world in there it is.

There's, there's, but the difference between that and the woods, the actual woods, like the Colorado Rockies. The difference being out there, in the waking up and just looking. And all you see in front of you is mountain peak after mountain, peak after mountain peak. And it just goes on. That is a different feeling, that's the real feeling. That feeling is, I think that feeling is like a thing we're supposed to get.

But you're right, you start to feel where our places, we are, not as as we are. Bitch ass, Yes, that's right, that's a bitch.

Compared to all the other things, bitch ass.

I don't think I'm catching anything, I don't think I'm going to kill any. I. What do you think you feel like when you? You're not even at a point where, like, it just happened? But you know, you ain't getting out of it. So it's like your survival mode is going to kick in. How long you last, I don't know.

You probably go into shock, right? like a bear grabs you, you probably could just go into shock.

Well, I had this conversation yesterday actually. So would you be able to play dead?

It depends on what the bear wants, man. See, there's two types of bears, black bears and brown bears. Black bears are more likely. This is two types of bears. in North America. there's the Black bears.

And so they're fucking huge. They put me in a cage with two of them.

They're actually less likely to try to go after you because they have an abundant food source. Like, there's people that, like, camp out by the river and watch these enormous fucking. Bears just eat salmon, but the bears don't want to have nothing to do with you, they're just eating salmon.

But like the Revenant, right? I don't care what kind of bear it is. If there's a bear coming at you, the bear has bad intentions. Black, brown, white. And they tell you to lay down and just stay there. Like, I know that, like, the bear's going to catch you if you keep running. But you could, you think that you could play dead in that moment?

No, it doesn't matter, it'll just start eating you. So why is it? because if it's a mama bear, so if a mama bear goes after you, because her cubs are there. If you, you stump and you scare her, like, if you come too close and she doesn't know you're there, she thinks you're a predator, she may charge you.

She wants a knockout.

But it doesn't mean she won't eat you either, yeah.

It doesn't mean she won't eat you. How do you play dead when she's chomped through this?

Sometimes she just wants to eliminate the threat and then get her babies to safety. Yeah, so that's why playing dead works with mama bears sometimes.

So you're just hoping for a mama?

But it's a big sometimes, it's a big sometimes because sometimes they just eat you like they're bears. We don't have like a fucking like treaty with them, right?

That's why my strategy is just not to put myself in a place where there are bears.

That's a good move.

You know, and that'll help you. It's worked so far.

That'll help you a lot in this life.

Yeah.

If you want to avoid getting eaten by bears, don't go to a place where they live.

Have you come across one like that? Like, just in the wild?

The scariest thing I came across? I've talked about it too many times on the podcast. But to tell you, I saw a big mountain line from about 30 yards away. But I was inside my friend's truck and he spotted it. It was about dusk, it was in Utah in the mountains.

Yeah, that kicked in from the inside.

From inside, a truck with a gun with the binoculars.

Yeah, yeah, dude.

You look at this thing and it's eyes were kind of.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Those are the real monsters.

I had a collie dog bite me once and I was that scared, so it's like, I'm not going to go, hey bro.

If your cat wants to fuck you up, that's a real problem.

Yeah, yeah, I don't do cats.

But imagine a cat that's 170 pounds?

Yeah.

Dude, it's so scary.

This is like.

Those guys are.

Like, on the couch, and they're like, come over and they just feed them, like a sandwich, and.

They.

No, what?

Her whole house was filled with lions, yeah.

How does that?

No, no, no, they had pet lions, I mean, enormous pet lions. There's all these photographs of her as a child in California, right?

These were just kooky lion pets. Yes, it wasn't like they were like carnies or something.

No crazy lion people, and they did a movie with these lions, and the movie is supposed to be like the dumbest movie of all time. Illegal?

Was it illegal to do that?

This is the movie, What's it called Again? Roar, What is it, Jamie? Roar?

No shit, I don't believe it.

Because they used actual real Lions, man and so like, Wait, Melanie Griffith is in this stupid movie.

All these clips of these actors right now.

Insurance and schmorence get the fuck out of here with your insurance.

They locked me in a motel room with a tiger, a Bengal tiger in The Joker's movie. They pushed me into a roadside hotel room, closed the door behind me. I turned around, there was no knob on the inside and I just was like, What is this for?

How can they predict the behavior of that thing?

Yeah, that's what I fucking said, too.

Bro, that's so dangerous.

And if you're freaking out?

What are you talking about?

It's chained to the pole in the shower.

Bro, I also want you to look at that bitch-ass chain.

I thought you were going to say, look at that bitch-ass in the corner.

Look at that chain, you don't think he can break that chain.

I know he could, I was saying it....

Bro, that is so crazy. that's such a crazy thing to do.

I just forgot about that until this moment, too. Fuck those things, man, I said to them, Fuck those things, this isn't funny.

Yeah, same thing. He raised that, right, ....Tiger from the time it was a baby.

If that's all it takes, is that tiger to get agitated by a lady. I mean, you're playing with Russian roulette your whole life. He would tell you a billion times over it's safe, it's safe, and then he gets his throat cut out.

I don't think it tried to kill him, though I think it was carrying him away like a cub.

Yeah, I think his limp body.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't think they showed it, but I think they have it. I don't think anybody's seen it.

He didn't die, though, right? oh, he died.

He died eventually, but he was paralyzed from it.

Like, a few hours later or no, he was paralyzed, yeah, and he kept the tiger right.

You can't trust those things. I was just, Yeah, because when it goes, you saw the one where the guy was, he had a trained grizzly bear for a movie, it had been in a few movies. And he's doing this thing with it. And he just bites this guy's neck off, just jumps on this guy's neck and tears it apart in front of everybody. And there's nothing anyone can do about it.

Imagine what you feel in that moment. Knowing that you're going to die, knowing that it's going to be this way, knowing that people are watching and can't help, and you're going to die in front of.

It could have all been avoided. Don't do that, don't get out there. This is just not, it's not 100 kids.

Yeah, like, you're not the boss of me.

So the tiger never attacked him during the Vegas show. He saved my life.

I don't know Roy, I don't know if we're picking it up.

Why does he think the tiger saved his life? I don't know exactly how it happened, but he said that, like, instinctively, Oh, he said he might have been having a stroke. Hold on a second. Roy maintains that Monacor was really trying to drag him to safety after seeing him felled by what he thinks may have been a stroke.

Did that come out right away? I don't know. I mean, it's amazing if that's what happened, but....

Tigers don't understand, you can't just drag a dude by his neck and not break it. Yeah, exactly because we're bitch ass.

Yeah, he's like, Lenny, some advice in there?

Yeah, you could do that to a puppy. Two gaping puncture wounds to the neck before passing out, Recall said. Leave Monacor alone, bring him back to his brother and sister, let him be happy. These guys are so crazy.

I picture Roy being drenched.

Suffering from severe blood loss, this picture of just blood squirting. He's like, Leave Monacor alone.

Thank you, thank you. Leave him alone. just thank you.

Bring him back to his brother and sister. Oh my God, oh my God. Suffering from severe blood loss and shock, he was considered medically dead at one point when his heart stopped. He also suffered the stroke that would ravage the left side of his body.

Yeah, yeah, he could have just had the stroke and that would be bad enough, but he could have just had a stroke.

Do they know when he had the stroke? I don't see what he's saying. Makes sense, though. If that cat loves him and the cat sees him faint and the cat wants to drag him to safety, it's just they don't know, they can't deal to bite you.

You ever see the reunions with these?