Masters With Ryan Whitney & Kirk Minihane, OJ Simpson Dead, Shohei's Forensic Accounting Has Come Back + Fyre Fest Of The Week

2024-04-12 01:55:25

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1Speaker 1
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Hey, Part of my Take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube Prime. members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music on Today's Part of My Take. We have our good friends Ryan Whitney and Kirk Minahan in studio to talk some masters. What we like this weekend? Just the the the pomp and circumstance of Augusta. Great time with those guys.

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We are going to talk about some death, we're going to talk about the Masters first round, we also have a new coach of Kentucky. We have some details on the Shohei case and then we have a fire fest. You're not going to want to miss, you can miss it, you're not going to want to miss it if you are someone.

2Speaker 2
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1Speaker 1
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2Speaker 2
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How about that long time awl? O.J. Simpson? Big time remember when we almost interviewed him?

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Yes, he was getting let out of prison for the memorabilia. I think we've told this story.

1Speaker 1
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But PFT and I were approached and told that there was an ad deal where we would literally be in a van. Picking him up from prison. And we both were like, I don't know, we usually don't know where.

2Speaker 2
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The line is that was a pretty clear line to me. It never got to the point, it never it was.

1Speaker 1
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It was just a thought starter that was presented to us, so it never got to the point where we could officially say no. But we were definitely leaning like, I don't think this is the best.

2Speaker 2
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That episode would be doing numbers right now. Yeah, we might've, we might've if it had gotten.

1Speaker 1
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Official We. We might've done it, yeah, cause, remember, it was presented to us. But it never got to the point where we're like, you got to give us a yes or no if we had gotten to that point.

2Speaker 2
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We might've said, Yes, I don't think we will. I think we shut it down pretty quick, if I remember, because we were like, you know what? Uh, let someone else, he's a he's a murderer. Yeah, let's do it.

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Listen, we'll have Dan Bilzerian on. He hasn't killed anyone that we know of, but O.J. was a bridge too far for us. The big news is it's finally okay to donate to cancer curing charities now again, because now there's no chance that money goes to help. O.J. Yeah, and.

1Speaker 1
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Uh, so yeah, it was, it was. It's weird because O.J. Simpson, there's not many deaths, especially, you know, people that are getting up there in age where you're like, oh shit, but O.J. Simpson is an oh shit, like, Oh, Oj died. And guess what, the best part?

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Well, uh, yeah, the best part of of his death. I can't pick just one, okay, but here's one, okay.

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Uh, if you tune into the Fire Fest today, you actually get to hear Hank's reaction to OJ's death. Cause he didn't find out for about eight hours after, eight hours afterwards, eight hours to break the news to Hank.

2Speaker 2
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That Donald Trump, What's this? what's this? you're saying? I haven't heard of that? It's the first I've heard of this. It was great.

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It was a great moment for the show. Uh, I actually found out from Jeff Delo this morning, cause I was doing something on my computer, I was doing some paperwork and Jeff texted me. And it was like, 20 minutes before the news became official, and it just said, Did O.J. die? and I was like, What?

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And he's like, look at his Twitter. I unfortunately am blocked by O.J. Simpson on Twitter so I could not access that. We've got to get you unblocked, yeah.

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You know what, now that he's dead, I'd like, I'd like his corpse to unblock me. But I guess he broke his Twitter, broke the news, right? Yeah, yeah, his Twitter broke the news.

1Speaker 1
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And, uh, Jeff Delo is our resident, uh, black and white picture, like, you know, in memoriam, guy. Yeah, did he have one ready to go? I think he had one ready to go for, I think he has one ready to go for all of us. Which is pretty crazy. Somewhere in those files, uh, say what you will about O.J. But he was a way, way better football player than person.

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Yes, yes, not even close, absolutely, I.

2Speaker 2
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Say Hernandez, O.J. Simpson, two guys, you can definitively say that about way better at football, so much better like.

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So, so much better. He had 2,000 yards in 14 games. Yeah, but you know what I realized after O.J. died, the Bills haven't made the Superbowl since he committed double murder.

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That was the year that was 1994, the Bills playing the Superbowl, 1994, you have the Superbowls lined up, right?

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Like, which year I believe it was in the year 1994, I like this. O.J. killed his wife and Ron Goldman in 1994. Bills have not been back to the Superbowl.

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This might be good things for the bills, unless it's going to be a good thing for the bills. Do you think there's any chance the bills have a helmet sticker that says OJ on it for next year?

1Speaker 1
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Uh, I would say no, probably not. I would say no, that feels like that's not going to happen.

2Speaker 2
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Probably not. I wonder if cancer will get acquitted of murder in this case.

1Speaker 1
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Yeah, uh, all right, yeah, so yeah. 19. yeah.

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My birthday 1994 was the Bills last Superbowl, and then the murder was 1994, sometime in 94, yeah.

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Summer of 94.

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Yeah, wow, okay, so see you oj.

2Speaker 2
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See ya peace man, moment of silence for OJ not roasted him.

1Speaker 1
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Yeah, and then, yeah, this was a Twitter was having a way with it. Yeah, June 12th, 1994, okay?

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So.

2Speaker 2
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I think, I think the word, I think the word, uh. They haven't played a football season.

1Speaker 1
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Like it was, they hadn't even played the next football. No, that's what I'm saying it was.

2Speaker 2
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Right after that Superbowl, the last time, yeah, uh. The word complicated was trending on Twitter for a little bit today, cause everyone was struggling to figure out a word to frame.

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Cause you don't want to make fun of the dead, uh, or you don't want to insult the dead, excuse me, right? Um, if you're a reputable news source.

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So all these places were saying, O.J. Simpson, a complicated man with a complicated legacy.

1Speaker 1
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Yeah, yeah, just say the just say what we said. Way better football player than person, he's so good at football, which always we. We've said it before, but it is very funny.

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Whenever someone says any of that with the other way around, yeah, like the J.J. Watt is a better person than he's a football player. No, no, no, he's one of the best football players of all time.

2Speaker 2
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So good at football, his brother is almost a better football player than he is a person. Yeah, he puts one, two more seasons together. No, the perfect word.

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Will Compton is a better person than he was a football player. Oh, a hundred percent. Yeah, it's easy, yeah.

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That's.

1Speaker 1
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Easy, Uh, all right. Other things we got, we got a lot. Masters, oh, one more, one more thing with.

2Speaker 2
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O.J. Yeah, um, people are asking me about it, so I'll address it right here. I got into a little tiff with Jose Conseco online, and it was because when OJ died, I said, RIP to O.J. Simpson.

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Heaven just got a great running back. Jose Conseco was like, Wait a second, OJ is not in heaven. Yeah, did you mean hell?

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Good one, Jose using that brain of yours. Can't get anything by him. No smart guy. So, uh, he called me out on it and I just roasted him.

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I, I made fun of Jose Conseco and, uh, then he came back at me. Put up a picture of me looking awesome in JNCO jeans, he thought he was owning. The other picture was awesome too. Yeah, the other picture was great.

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I had a full head of hair, it was young and spry, richie incognito on my shoulder. And then, uh, I told him to shut the fuck up, bitch, and then he said that he would kick my ass. I reminded him that Billy Football beat the fuck out of him in about 20 seconds.

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Excuse me, Congressman Billy Football beat the fuck out of him about 20 seconds. He wants to get in the ring with with me and I'll just I'll. I'll give you some facts real quick about Jose Conseco, Yeah.

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He's not allowed to fight by decree of the State of West Virginia and also by the decree of Barstool. He's looking his fat ass, is looking for a payday because he's out of cash right now. He literally is like, he.

1Speaker 1
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Looked at his calendar, it was like, Oh shit, I'm going to just try to beef with someone at.

2Speaker 2
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Going to get some money? His fat old ass is protected by the same laws that govern your ability to not hunt out of season or to, like, beat up a puppy. Yeah, that's in the eyes of the state of West Virginia. His health is so bad that he is a protected class of citizens and is not allowed to fight elder abuse.

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He got cut off in West Virginia from fighting. Yeah, that's very, very hard to do. It's like getting cut off at the bar in Dublin, yeah.

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Uh, so, you know, as as far as O.J. goes, or, excuse me, as far as Jose goes. I saw Frank the Tank get involved in a little bit. Yeah, well, there are enemies. I think Frank the Tank will be my champion in this fight. If it does go to that level, I'll have Frank kick his ass.

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Yeah, and he won't good.

1Speaker 1
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And also we can't, cause we're never going to pay him another dollar, not another dime. Back. Uh, all right. MASTERs Bryson DeChambeau is back. leads the Masters after one round minus seven, although we haven't played the whole first round max homework and still lead the Masters.

2Speaker 2
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Max shot four under in the front nine. And he got screwed by the wind. He got screwed by the wind and the sun. Today, all the elements coming after Max. And uh, he's, he's in shape, he's in good shape.

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He's never shot four under, I think, in his, uh, in a round in August on the front nine.

1Speaker 1
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So this is he's off to the best start of his career he is. And it's, uh, we'll get into it more with with Whitney and Kirk, but, uh, I think we're I. I'm at the point now where, like, I liked seeing Bryson back in the mix.

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Cause we, you know, Brooks, squashed the beef, so as we have to respectfully squash the beef as well. Uh, Bryson also feels like he's, you know, maybe changed a little bit, loosened up a little bit. He did have a funny quote though, uh, talking about, like everyone who's been in his corner. He said It's been really awesome to see how I can affect a lot of people's lives.

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Junior Golfers lives middle-aged men. Even if they're coming out shouting thanks for the content, Appreciate what you do online, do you? There's no way someone shouted, Appreciate what you do online. I think he's got a pretty active YouTube channel, I watch, I watch his video.

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Appreciate what you do online. Thanks for the content I get. you think someone yelled, Appreciate what you do online. Yeah, okay.

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I'm going to start sending that to you guys now as they should, that's fine. Yeah, I feel like that's a lot of, that's a lot of words that you wouldn't really shout. You should, you should be like yo.

2Speaker 2
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A big fan, so as good of a golfer as Bryson is, as much as he's accomplished on the course. Hearing thanks for the content, appreciate what you do online has to hit a little bit different than all that. Then like, Hey, I love your game, No thanks for the content. You're like, Yeah, this guy gets me.

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Yeah, so I put Bryson in that camp of he's making, he makes people mad, and he's interested to have an opinion about him. So it's going to make the game more interesting. I don't want him to win, but it would be interesting if he stuck around. I want him in.

1Speaker 1
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The mix, Uh, we also had Scotty Scheffler, who's always in the mix, looking incredible. As always, he's minus six second place.

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The steel, this, the the. The person who stole the show today was Jason Day's pants. yeah, Jason's Days parachute pants. They look like they came right out of Max's.

3Speaker 3
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Closet You guys don't know fashion, Jason Day knows fashion, that's a fact I like this from.

1Speaker 1
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Him, by the way, because everyone's going one way, everyone's getting the tight pants, the inseam, all that shit, he's going the opposite way. Throwback. He looks like he's about to be drafted in the 2003 N.B.A. draft.

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I like, Did you guys see Tiger's Pants from like 1997?

2Speaker 2
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Yeah, they were like that, too. Yeah, when when he was at the peak of his power, we're not, we're.

3Speaker 3
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Not, this is baggy pants are what is in right now with the young kids, right? The company that he.

1Speaker 1
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Signed with Uh, Malvin Golf has has sick, sick gear. But wait, isn't Jason Day like our age? He's cool, though, 36, he is cool. But he just signed the payroll deal with this company, who's like the the The Hot Gear company.

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Okay, so we got to get baggy pants.

2Speaker 2
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I already got some, I already got it, I got a couple of pairs. Shit, all right, I never pants it up.

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Never really got into skinny jeans that much. Well, yeah, why would I like it, I think?

1Speaker 1
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Every I'll speak for myself, I've attempted and they never made it out of my house. I remember I've. I've, actually, I think I've done it twice, where I've bought like black skinny-ish jeans, put them on and then immediately threw them out. Yeah, didn't even make him out of my bedroom because I was like, What are you doing, dude?

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You ever have those moments where you're like, I'm going to do something I haven't done my entire life with fashion. And then you almost immediately like, Yeah, that's why I haven't done. It, doesn't work for me, does not work for.

2Speaker 2
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Me will not work, I can't win with it. Yeah, can't do it.

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I think that certain fads out there, certain trends, are just set up as a joke by the industry. To be like, we'll see what these suckers will pay for and start wearing. I think the entire skinny jeans movement was like, that, you can't look. in my opinion, you can't look tough wearing skinny jeans. Yeah, like watching King Vaughn videos and he's wearing skinny jeans.

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I'm like, I could take that guy, Yeah, you got to have.

1Speaker 1
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Middle of the road jeans. The other one I do is the Remember the fad with the, uh, like, really thin fabric shirts like t-shirts. That one didn't work either. What was that Hank? I wasn't expecting a King Vaughn reference.

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He wore skinny jeans, he wore skinny jeans. Hank Yeah, I just didn't know you were familiar with, Oh, we know King Vaughn.

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With the lore, yeah, with the lore, you.

2Speaker 2
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Think I don't know about oblak, you don't think we know about that shit, Let me tell you true.

1Speaker 1
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Story real quick Hank, that's good. Yeah, uh, all right, so yeah.

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And then Tiger looked okay, although now he's got to play 25 holes, 23 holes, he looked pretty good. But like a lot of the.

2Speaker 2
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Golfers that teed off later in the day. They got fucked over by the weather because when they started, they started a little bit late, right? Yeah. So the first guys that went out there, they got the nice soft greens, the real, real tactical greens, and it wasn't as windy.

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It wasn't as windy. Then the wind comes in, dries out a little bit. I don't think that we're going to.

1Speaker 1
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See minus sixes, minus sevens tomorrow. Yeah, I think so, we need. And Brooks was. Brooks is fine. Brooks is fine.

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He's good, he's fine, even through like 10, he's going to be fine. John Rahm didn't.

2Speaker 2
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Look great today, but Scotty Shuffler does just look like it's it's a destiny. Yeah, it looks.

1Speaker 1
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Like, he is locked in on all accounts. We just want I just want a really good ending. Uh, and also everyone who bet on Xander Shuffley, which was literally everyone in America not the best. He was the guy who everyone I. I probably got that tip a hundred times. Xander Shuffley. I think he went from like 20 to one to like 14 to one.

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Do you think Brooks was pissed off that everything?

2Speaker 2
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Got delayed so much today. Yeah, it's like the weather was one big, for sure, one big, Patrick.

1Speaker 1
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Can't lay for him, for sure. It was definitely he wanted to get right to it. Um, all right, before we do the other two topics that we have, uh, price line, quick word from price line. When it comes to travel, every family has a happy place a five-star resort with a kids club or an all-inclusive by the beach.

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Okay, other big story We have a shocking, not shocking, but shockingly quick, seemingly, resolution to the Shohei Otani story. The forensic accountants I always trusted in those guys, they fucking did it.

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They did their work, I don't think they have the whole story yet.

2Speaker 2
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So you still think Shohei was betting? I don't know what was going on, He might not have been betting. But I think there's some other wrinkles that might come out of this. Okay, so the story?

1Speaker 1
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Comes out that IPE is now going to be prosecuted. It's also part of a prosecution of the gambling ring. So that's how this all kind of came to light.

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Shohei sat down for a couple of interviews with the IRS and maybe the FBI handed over his cell phone, went through his cell phone, didn't find any text messages. With IPE about betting. More stories come out that IPE. Essentially. When Shohei moved to America, IPE helped him open up his bank account, basically kept him isolated from his agent, from his financial advisor. Because the IRS and everyone interviewed those people as well, and they're like, yeah, we never had access to a lot of this stuff. Because IPE said that Shohei wanted to be a private person, so he essentially isolated Shohei. What the story is saying?

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He isolated him to a point where he could take advantage of him. Changed his phone settings so he didn't get alerts when the bank, when there was transactions done. And then there's also the text messages that we get from IPE and the bookie. I don't know, I happen to think that this guy's a scumbag and Shohei didn't do anything wrong. But you can be skeptical.

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I understand the skepticism.

2Speaker 2
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I'm definitely still skeptical. There's nothing that's been proven against Shohei right now. But if his translator was just in charge of all of this shit, then they could do it without Shohei ever talking to this guy using electronic communication, that's what I'm saying. Shohei, just because there's no text there and all this stuff was coming from his translator's phone doesn't necessarily mean that Shohei....

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Now again, there's no evidence against Shohei right now.

1Speaker 1
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So it came out that he lost $40 million. He was making on average 25 bets a day. If that was Shohei, there had to have been a text message about it.

2Speaker 2
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There could have been, but.

1Speaker 1
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Like, there's no way that all those things happen without at least one text message talking about gambling.

2Speaker 2
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But go back to the first thing. He said. He lost $40 million, the translator lost $40 million, the translator, I think he won $142 million, and he lost $182 million.

1Speaker 1
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He had a gambling problem.

2Speaker 2
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Again, I go back to how is a translator able to bet, win and lose that much money?

1Speaker 1
00:20:22.36 – 00:20:23.50

Because he's got a bookie.

2Speaker 2
00:20:23.52 – 00:20:29.88

Because he has a bookie, but his bookie is not extending credit to just a nobody.

1Speaker 1
00:20:30.26 – 00:20:37.62

Right, I know I understand that part. I mean, the text messages were in there of IPE and the bookie. And I want to say one thing real quick.

00:20:39.92 – 00:20:49.18

25 bets a day is not that crazy. I want to say that a lot of people were shaming that, listen, during this college football Saturday, it's not that crazy. Gamble responsibly.

00:20:49.74 – 00:20:55.84

Also, I read those text messages from IPE to the Bookie. let's just say I've seen those text messages before.

2Speaker 2
00:20:56.28 – 00:20:57.94

Yeah, so there was one in particular.

1Speaker 1
00:20:57.94 – 00:21:05.46

I'll just leave it at that. I've seen those text messages where he just keeps saying, I need a bump, I'm so bad at this. There was one it's legalized now.

2Speaker 2
00:21:06.06 – 00:21:22.74

There was one in particular, where the report comes out on ESPN on March 20th. And then IPE texted the bookie and said, Have you seen the reports? The bookie said, Yes, but that's all bullshit. Obviously you didn't steal from him. I understand it's a cover job, I totally get it.

00:21:23.44 – 00:21:26.24

Why does he think this is a cover job?

1Speaker 1
00:21:26.78 – 00:21:31.82

What do you mean? No, but then the next text was IPE saying, No, technically I stole from him.

2Speaker 2
00:21:31.82 – 00:21:46.20

Yes, the next text was, technically I did steal from him. It's all over for me. But the fact that the bookie was replying to IPE with, I understand. It's a cover job, I totally get it. What in that report did he see as being the cover job that he totally got?

00:21:47.60 – 00:21:55.00

Do you think IPE was telling the bookmaker the entire time Otani is bankrolling me?

1Speaker 1
00:21:56.82 – 00:22:10.12

Probably, he probably did, because then there's the text from the bookie to IPE saying, I don't know why you're not returning my calls. I'm here in Newport Beach and I see Otani walking his dog. I'm just going to go up and talk to him and ask him how I can get in touch with you.

00:22:10.36 – 00:22:28.46

Since you're not responding, please call me back immediately. Yeah, so he knows that this guy is linked to Shohei, and he probably is like, he's going to be good for it because I can just be like, you're Shohei's interpreter. There are people with gambling addictions. It was kind of sad reading some of that.

00:22:28.58 – 00:22:40.50

And I understand he got in way too deep, I just don't know the truth. Which I think people don't want to believe because it sucks for Shohei is that Shohei is probably not the smartest and is too trusting.

2Speaker 2
00:22:40.76 – 00:22:42.88

He's definitely too trusting. If this is the case, yeah.

1Speaker 1
00:22:43.18 – 00:22:51.26

So why would the FBI and the IRS? How would they be covering this up now if this was Shohei?

2Speaker 2
00:22:51.38 – 00:23:05.90

Oh, I don't think that the FBI and the IRS are covering it up. I think that it's more likely that there's a cover-up between Shohei and his translator IPE. And the two of them know the truth, I just don't know how the phone, the two of them know the truth.

00:23:06.26 – 00:23:21.16

Nobody else does this entire time. It was IPE's phone that had access to all of Shohei's accounts, and it was completely separated. And they never texted back and forth about bets. And that way Shohei was able to, Otani was able to do it.

1Speaker 1
00:23:21.66 – 00:23:53.18

Because there's just no way if you're betting 20, if Shohei's betting 25 times a day, there's just no way that he never texted him saying, Hey, put this in for me. Unless they were smart about it, there's just no way. Because there's like Shohei would be sitting in his hotel, being like, I want late action on this soccer game that's about to start. If he's betting that volume, he had, like, because that's a volume that you can't be like, Oh, I want to put a bet in, but I can't talk to him directly, but I know I shouldn't text.

2Speaker 2
00:23:53.40 – 00:23:55.76

But as a translator, they're together all the time.

1Speaker 1
00:23:55.86 – 00:24:10.84

Yeah, but I'm saying, like, late night, they're sitting in a hotel or Shohei's somewhere that he's not at that moment. 25 bets a day, that means you're betting everything. Yeah, that's the only part that, like, there'd be no chance if you were betting 25 bets a day. That it was never put in text.

2Speaker 2
00:24:11.10 – 00:24:25.54

There's a 0 chance that the FBI is covering up for Shohei Otani. That's clear, because if you're the FBI for the Department of Justice, you want nothing more than to catch Shohei Otani in a gambling ring. That's a career making case right there.

1Speaker 1
00:24:25.56 – 00:24:30.38

I also don't know how you could do 25 bets a day and still be good at baseball. That's a lot of work.

2Speaker 2
00:24:30.50 – 00:24:36.16

It's a ton of work. But again, like, dude, this guy gambled $320 million.

1Speaker 1
00:24:38.14 – 00:24:38.94

That's total.

2Speaker 2
00:24:39.14 – 00:24:42.32

Total, but for a guy that makes 200,000 a year at the most.

1Speaker 1
00:24:42.32 – 00:24:51.56

Yeah, I know, but if he's, if he's making payments, then nothing matters to a bookie like that's the thing is. If he made the payments, they're not going to ask questions.

2Speaker 2
00:24:51.68 – 00:24:55.42

And so what was Shohei's salary between this like four year span?

1Speaker 1
00:24:55.44 – 00:25:14.04

It was still pretty large. I just think that, like I understand the skepticism, I'm not going to 100 be like, yeah, Shohei had no part in any of this. I just think that the reality might just be that Shohei is not the brightest and was way too trusting to a guy that he thought was family. I think it's the perfect crime in the fact that Shohei has no one like.

00:25:14.04 – 00:25:25.68

You're in a country where no one speaks your language, and the one person you're supposed to trust who tells you everything is taking advantage. He's in this position where he can be taken advantage of because no one else he can converse with.

2Speaker 2
00:25:25.86 – 00:25:32.60

Yeah, I think that there's definitely a chance that Shohei didn't have anything to do with it. That's. That's without a doubt a possibility. I'm I'm not convinced of it yet.

1Speaker 1
00:25:32.90 – 00:25:37.82

How much did he make? What does it say? 40? I can't read it, it's too small.

3Speaker 3
00:25:38.08 – 00:25:39.84

41 Nine, five, four, okay.

2Speaker 2
00:25:39.84 – 00:25:45.64

So I guess maybe Shohei had some endorsements, too, maybe he just doesn't check his bank account.

1Speaker 1
00:25:46.64 – 00:25:55.42

Yeah, I don't know, I mean, he. I read that he was for the longest time his mom was controlling his bank account. So it's like, there's. It definitely felt like Shohei.

2Speaker 2
00:25:55.74 – 00:25:57.40

Be funny. His mom had a gambling problem, too.

1Speaker 1
00:25:57.68 – 00:25:58.42

It was his mom.

2Speaker 2
00:25:58.56 – 00:26:01.64

Yeah, it was his mom the whole time, Ipe's falling on the sword for his mom.

1Speaker 1
00:26:01.74 – 00:26:05.90

Yeah, what do you think, Hank? I think he was gambling. you do you think Shohei was gambling?

3Speaker 3
00:26:06.06 – 00:26:14.00

Yeah, I think a lot of people are accusing that, I think they just want the chaos, but I think that's crazy to accuse. Unless, like, they did a full investigation. And he's clear, right?

1Speaker 1
00:26:14.16 – 00:26:28.04

Yeah, I mean, I don't always believe in, like, it's not. I'm not saying a hundred percent that he's innocent, but I'm definitely leaning towards cause. Like, I saw those text messages and sounded like a guy who was in way too deep and was very desperate to do anything.

2Speaker 2
00:26:28.22 – 00:26:32.78

Let me, let me put this in your head. You've been around a lot of gamblers. Yes, we work amongst them all the time.

00:26:34.86 – 00:26:45.58

Is there any chance that Otani didn't know that IPE had a gambling problem? Spending all day, every day with him as IPE is falling his scores? You know, trying to find a bar that has.

1Speaker 1
00:26:45.58 – 00:26:47.64

He probably thought he gambled, he probably thought he gambled.

2Speaker 2
00:26:47.68 – 00:26:53.56

Probably, I mean, it would be pretty obvious that your buddy was betting on UCLA soccer all the time.

3Speaker 3
00:26:53.56 – 00:26:59.72

But you don't know his unit, like, he could just be a stressed out guy that he thinks is betting like a thousand dollars on a game.

1Speaker 1
00:26:59.74 – 00:27:06.96

Right, he could be playing it off. Like, Yeah, I put $10, I mean, one of the bets was for $10. I'm dying to know what that one was, but yeah.

2Speaker 2
00:27:07.22 – 00:27:07.54

Probably parlay.

1Speaker 1
00:27:07.54 – 00:27:18.14

But that's but if you're, that's why I also think that there's no way. I just I don't understand how there could not be any text messages. Maybe you could say they're a different phone that he didn't hand over. Okay, then I believe that.

00:27:18.18 – 00:27:24.96

But I just, there's no way. Shohei was betting 25 times a day and there was never a single text about.

2Speaker 2
00:27:24.96 – 00:27:41.96

Gambling to his interpreter, there was another funny part of the, uh. The documents that came out today where they called. They called IPE up. The bank did because IPE was trying to get a wire transfer. Saying he was going to use it to buy a Porsche. Yeah, and I think he was asking for a couple of hundred thousand dollars and they called him. And, uh, for whatever reason, it got flagged.

00:27:41.98 – 00:27:50.46

It was like, No, don't authorize this transfer. Otani had a massive endorsement deal with Porsche at the time and he was trying to. He was saying he was using it to buy a car.

1Speaker 1
00:27:50.66 – 00:27:54.28

Yeah, and there was another one that they found that he was faking to be Otani on the phone.

2Speaker 2
00:27:54.42 – 00:27:55.28

That was one of the same ones.

1Speaker 1
00:27:55.28 – 00:28:03.80

Yeah, so like, I don't know, maybe I'm just too trusting in forensic accounting, but I shout out to forensic accountants. They did, they did at least get some good work.

2Speaker 2
00:28:03.88 – 00:28:04.62

They did their job.

1Speaker 1
00:28:04.62 – 00:28:18.92

Yeah, they did their job. Um, and it sucks to be like, cause the the. The reality is like, if Shohei was completely innocent, it at worst is like the most embarrassing thing. To have that happen to you and everyone be like, Dude, what? How did that happen?

2Speaker 2
00:28:19.16 – 00:28:22.94

Also, IPe was a really bad gambler, really bad gambler. It sounds like he rode the hungry dog.

1Speaker 1
00:28:23.08 – 00:28:34.04

Yeah, we don't, we don't. Yeah, Dan Heron did say that he was following my motor locks. It would be funny if it comes out like they do a forensic accounting of his laptop. And he was just watching Barstool sports survivors every week being like, These guys know ball.

00:28:35.50 – 00:28:37.94

Like these guys, these guys are sharp.

2Speaker 2
00:28:38.46 – 00:28:45.22

I want to know the I want to know the worst, the worst beat that IPE had. I saw he had that, that USC was it, was it USC?

1Speaker 1
00:28:45.86 – 00:28:49.62

UCLA Yeah, I think. They were 11 point favorites over Fresno State and lost outright.

2Speaker 2
00:28:49.78 – 00:28:51.32

And that was the one that sent him over the edge, right?

1Speaker 1
00:28:51.36 – 00:28:55.90

Yeah, yeah, and that's a late night game. Yeah, that's yep.

00:28:56.38 – 00:29:03.60

Yeah, so we'll see, I mean, I is it? So, like, what's the next step he's going to go to? He's going to go to trial, he's getting prosecuted.

2Speaker 2
00:29:03.60 – 00:29:07.16

So he can face, I think he's facing up to 30 years in prison.

1Speaker 1
00:29:07.46 – 00:29:22.50

Also, the fact that IPE they looked into his past and he's been like, lying for a long time does make it seem like it's more realistic. That he's just a big fraudster, you know, and just scamming everyone. All right, last thing, Kentucky has new head coach.

2Speaker 2
00:29:23.56 – 00:29:24.04

Congrats.

1Speaker 1
00:29:24.52 – 00:29:29.22

And it is not Dan Hurley, and it is not Billy Donovan.

2Speaker 2
00:29:30.26 – 00:29:31.64

It's definitely Rick Pitino.

1Speaker 1
00:29:31.64 – 00:29:33.84

It's not Rick Pitino, it's not Nate Oates.

3Speaker 3
00:29:34.10 – 00:29:34.64

Not Scott Drew.

1Speaker 1
00:29:35.34 – 00:29:39.30

Not Scott Drew. He trusts in God, God told him to stay at Baylor.

2Speaker 2
00:29:39.48 – 00:29:56.72

So yeah, the exact quote I actually, I saved this, he said. We truly believe God has called my family and I to continue our work here at Baylor. I just want to remind people of the last guy that said, God is commanding them to live in Waco, Texas. Yeah, and how that turned out?

1Speaker 1
00:29:56.72 – 00:29:57.50

Yeah, not great.

00:29:59.66 – 00:30:15.10

So they got Mark Pope, BYU coach, national champion at Kentucky, throwing it back captain of the 1996 Rick Pitino led Kentucky Wildcats. You got Mark Pope.

2Speaker 2
00:30:15.38 – 00:30:20.46

Got Mark Pope and Big Blue Nation is not happy. I mean, Mark Pope is a good coach.

1Speaker 1
00:30:21.04 – 00:30:26.56

And he does have Kentucky ties, but Big Blue Nation is not happy. So if you go back to.

2Speaker 2
00:30:26.56 – 00:30:39.76

When we interviewed Matt Jones a couple of weeks ago, he was talking about all the qualities they were looking for in a head coach. He wanted a splash, he wanted a guy that was flashy, that was a big personality, big Kentucky, big job. They need a big coach.

00:30:40.94 – 00:30:46.58

MARK Pope seems like he is underwhelming on on every account possible for Kentucky Wildcat fans.

1Speaker 1
00:30:46.70 – 00:30:53.50

But you can look at pictures of him with Rick Pitino, the 1996 Kentucky Wildcats. Yep, sometimes you got to go back to move forward, Mark Pope.

2Speaker 2
00:30:54.08 – 00:30:54.48

It's true.

1Speaker 1
00:30:54.48 – 00:30:56.56

And Cal looks so weird in red.

2Speaker 2
00:30:56.70 – 00:30:59.74

He looked very strange in red, he said that he, uh, he met with a team.

1Speaker 1
00:31:00.06 – 00:31:00.60

Met with a team.

2Speaker 2
00:31:00.66 – 00:31:03.02

The whole team, yep, how many guys were there.

1Speaker 1
00:31:03.24 – 00:31:04.02

There is no team.

2Speaker 2
00:31:04.12 – 00:31:04.60

Okay, no team.

1Speaker 1
00:31:05.76 – 00:31:16.00

That I actually felt bad for Cal there because it was he was trying to do a punchline and no one bit. He's like, I met with the team, there is no team and no one fucking bit with it.

2Speaker 2
00:31:16.12 – 00:31:23.96

Yeah, now I I. I would venture to say that a lot of Kentucky wildcat players will be um committing to Arkansas, maybe a couple of them.

1Speaker 1
00:31:23.96 – 00:31:25.38

Yeah, at least a few.

2Speaker 2
00:31:25.54 – 00:31:29.02

I don't see Mark Pope bringing in five-star recruits left and right.

1Speaker 1
00:31:29.20 – 00:31:36.00

Yeah, uh, Cal also had, uh, this, he said. We got to get a roster together and some of it is a little bit of everything.

2Speaker 2
00:31:36.36 – 00:31:36.76

Yep.

1Speaker 1
00:31:37.82 – 00:31:45.46

That's, that's, that's a quote, uh? He said. Kentucky is the bluest of blue. There's only a few schools like that, and I hate to tell you, Arkansas is one of them.

00:31:46.98 – 00:31:59.12

Yep, okay, okay, uh. He also said I didn't want anything out until after the National Championship game that we were even talking because I didn't think that was fair. It literally all came out.

2Speaker 2
00:32:00.02 – 00:32:04.54

Yeah, it was the night before. So yeah, he says, that Arkansas is a blue blood.

1Speaker 1
00:32:04.68 – 00:32:07.18

Uh, yes, he is one. They are one of them.

2Speaker 2
00:32:07.20 – 00:32:12.24

You know what Cal might be? A blue blood he could be? I think anywhere he goes, he just brings the blood with him.

1Speaker 1
00:32:12.36 – 00:32:36.72

The the more that comes out of the Cal exit is very funny because Cal. It seems like he was doing like he was taking one last shot at a power play that almost worked. So there's like, I read a couple of stories. Also Trilly Donovan, who's a inside basketball guy who I think he has. A, Uh, maybe it's a telegram where he sends. He's right about a lot of stuff. And he basically was spelling it out before any of it came out in public.

00:32:36.78 – 00:32:55.96

He was like Cal's making a power play with, uh, the Depaul, the former Depaul ad, his good friend. To get an offer from Arkansas, then come back to Kentucky and be like, match it or or give me a new deal and have the fans revolt and get Barnhart out.

2Speaker 2
00:32:56.26 – 00:32:56.98

Oh, okay.

1Speaker 1
00:32:57.08 – 00:32:59.20

So it's like, and then he'd get his friend in as the ad.

2Speaker 2
00:32:59.38 – 00:33:08.58

He got caught, he got caught in a like a game of chicken, right? It's like when George lied to Susan's parents about the the house at the Hamptons, he ends up driving all the way out there.

00:33:08.68 – 00:33:09.80

Now he's down in Arkansas.

1Speaker 1
00:33:09.86 – 00:33:21.78

I respect the move because it was clear that he and, Uh, Barnhart were not good friends. So he was trying a last ditch effort. To be like, let's get him out so I can stay. And then, as soon as it was clear he wasn't gonna get out, he's like, All right, I'll go to Arkansas.

2Speaker 2
00:33:22.00 – 00:33:24.12

Well, now people want Barnhart out now for hiring Pope.

1Speaker 1
00:33:24.18 – 00:33:25.22

Or Pope? Yeah, he should just wait.

2Speaker 2
00:33:25.22 – 00:33:26.56

Maybe Cal to Kentucky.

1Speaker 1
00:33:26.66 – 00:33:29.42

Yes, I do think Cal's going to win it at Arkansas.

2Speaker 2
00:33:29.64 – 00:33:41.22

He's going to be a good coach in Arkansas, it's a good basketball school. I also think at the same time Kentucky, they will be fine long-term, and we don't know shit about ball. This guy might end up being a great coach, a great fit at Kentucky.

00:33:41.22 – 00:33:45.08

We don't know, but it's not, it's not like the splash hire that they wanted.

1Speaker 1
00:33:45.32 – 00:34:03.48

Here's the thing it's, it's kind of it's, it's. It's not going to be immediate, like if you got Danny Hurley, it'd probably be immediate. if you got Nate Oates, it'd probably be immediate. Even Scott Drew. So it might be a little bit more of a build. But one of the complaints that Kentucky fans have had for the last four or five years is like, we get the recruits, but we don't have coaching.

00:34:03.74 – 00:34:06.58

Mark Pope can coach, so you get the coaching now.

2Speaker 2
00:34:06.70 – 00:34:10.34

Kenny Crute, Kenny Crute, we don't know that, so Cal can crute, he can crute.

00:34:10.44 – 00:34:16.04

He can crute, he's a cruter. They said that, uh, that Danny Hurley turned down $20 million.

1Speaker 1
00:34:16.58 – 00:34:17.22

Shout out Danny.

2Speaker 2
00:34:17.26 – 00:34:36.26

That's what, that's what people in Kentucky are saying. I don't know if that's the right number that would make him. I think Bill Self is the highest paid coach and he makes 9 million 9.5. I think so this would more than double that. I don't know if that number's right, but if it's, if it's above 15. That's still a crazy amount of money for him to turn down. Uconn should be very happy.

1Speaker 1
00:34:36.32 – 00:34:41.92

What did you, Max? you had? you had the inside source? what was it? It was 15, plus incentives to get to 20..

3Speaker 3
00:34:41.98 – 00:34:49.72

Well, that's what Jeff, that's what Jeff was saying. 15 plus incentives for, like, I think, eight years, it was over a hundred mil total was the number.

2Speaker 2
00:34:49.84 – 00:34:54.38

I asked Jeff about that, too. I said, Where are you getting this from? He's just like the guys are saying.

1Speaker 1
00:34:54.62 – 00:35:00.82

Yeah, but Uconn's going to give him a huge deal. Yes, yeah, he's going to get a massive, massive, massive pay raise.

00:35:00.90 – 00:35:22.08

And I actually, as as much as, uh, the money would obviously be nice if you're Danny Hurley. I do believe that there's something about if you go to Kentucky and you don't win. If you don't go to a final four in five years, you're out. Yeah, he can coach at UConn for the next 10 years and not go to a final four and still be okay. That's what Cal did.

00:35:22.24 – 00:35:35.78

Cal literally went to his last final four was 2015 and the last whatever nine years have not been great, especially the last four. And he kept his job because he had won before and he had that, like Leeway, with the fan base.

2Speaker 2
00:35:35.78 – 00:35:38.44

Yeah, in Arkansas, they'll get to a final four at some point.

1Speaker 1
00:35:38.74 – 00:35:40.96

I do, too. I think there'll be a final four within like.

2Speaker 2
00:35:42.44 – 00:35:46.82

Four years, he might actually be a better coach now than he was in Kentucky. Well, the scenery might be nice.

1Speaker 1
00:35:46.90 – 00:36:05.80

I think it's, I think he's got. It's gotta be a little bit of an ego bruise. Yeah, people, that that the fan base kind of turned on you so much. So he's going to maybe feel like he's got to prove it again and get and climb back up the mountain. Because that was Cal for the long, you know, Cal at the start of his Kentucky, couldn't have gone better. I think he went to four out of five.

00:36:05.80 – 00:36:15.30

Final fours, won, a national title, could not have gone better. And then it faded because he had been on top of the mountain, so maybe now he's got to climb back up.

2Speaker 2
00:36:15.44 – 00:36:21.66

I want to see John Daly get involved with Arkansas basketball again, see him like the sister gene of Arkansas, just wheel him out there.

1Speaker 1
00:36:21.76 – 00:36:26.06

I think the sister genes already already decided. Tyson Chicken guy, you got a standing ovation.

2Speaker 2
00:36:26.48 – 00:36:27.04

Oh, they love that.

1Speaker 1
00:36:27.04 – 00:36:38.76

It was incredible. I that that is like, if you want, if you want a sign of, like the change in college basketball and Nil and all that stuff is entire arena. Giving the Tyson Chicken guy a standing ovation.

2Speaker 2
00:36:38.96 – 00:36:53.36

No, I want, I want. John Daly in a wheelchair with an ivy drip of vodka into his arm. Yeah, just being wheeled out to the balcony in the upper row for the final four. He's given like thumbs ups, pregame speeches to everybody drunk off his ass. I want to see, I want to see Arkansas get real weird with it.

1Speaker 1
00:36:53.40 – 00:36:54.26

Yeah, what are you gonna say, Max?

3Speaker 3
00:36:54.60 – 00:37:16.10

I'm just thinking about like this from a Kentucky fans perspective. If you're willing to give, what if the recruiting status, like play is to? I don't know if Mark Pope is a good recruiter, but we're just going to five x every single nil coming in. True, because if they're willing to give Danny Hurley 20 million a year and they just brought in Pope for.

1Speaker 1
00:37:16.72 – 00:37:18.26

What? probably four?

3Speaker 3
00:37:18.82 – 00:37:30.54

Yeah, that that the n i the like. You had $16 million to work with there. It's a good point. So what if you're like, I'm just going to give multimillion dollar deals to every single person that I want?

2Speaker 2
00:37:30.72 – 00:37:46.86

I don't think you're wrong about that, um, but I do think that they're probably not going to have. They're not going to look at the remaining $16 million as being like, well, we've got to spend this anyways. Because probably some of the guys that deep pockets don't have enough faith in Mark Pope to be like, we trust giving him this guy.

3Speaker 3
00:37:47.20 – 00:38:03.62

But if you think he's a good coach, then it would make even more sense that that you're like, all right, if you're. If your worry is recruiting, we'll take care of the recruiting. All you have to take care of is coaching basketball because recruiting is different. Now it's so much easier if you have a shit ton of money.

2Speaker 2
00:38:03.86 – 00:38:07.94

Yeah, I think I, I hope he works out. I think it'd be a great story.

3Speaker 3
00:38:08.04 – 00:38:23.82

I think that's like a spin zone for Kentucky fans that like, if this is the thing that you're worried about. This is a different world of going and getting guys. So the personality of the coach may not matter as much as the pocketbooks of the guys who were making the deals.

1Speaker 1
00:38:23.82 – 00:38:33.36

And I think the the the problem is Kentucky fans, and I understand it. They're like, Mark Pope has not done anything, uh, cause he hasn't like, he's he, I don't even know if he's.

3Speaker 3
00:38:33.36 – 00:38:37.42

Won a tournament game? No, he hasn't. He's not want to turn to get two tournaments, three CBis.

1Speaker 1
00:38:37.42 – 00:38:56.04

And one nit. So the one thing you could say, though, and I do believe this, is that. Mark Pope, you know, Byu going to the Big 12? Like you see all the time, teams step up in class and they immediately fall down like they. They have a terrible year. Byu had a good year, they were fifth in the Big 12..

00:38:56.54 – 00:39:06.48

Yeah, they competed hard all year. So it's like, that's, I think, what you have to sell yourself on and the whole. Just look at a bunch of pictures of the 96 wildcats, I think that's really what it is.

00:39:06.62 – 00:39:08.82

So now you got to just keep looking at 96 wildcats pictures.

2Speaker 2
00:39:08.96 – 00:39:15.76

Now there's an opening at BYU. Yeah, Rick Pitino being good fit. Reportedly no contact with Pitino.

3Speaker 3
00:39:15.76 – 00:39:19.88

And they did not aggressively pursue Billy Dee. Yeah, Billy Dee said he wasn't going to go.

1Speaker 1
00:39:19.88 – 00:39:23.78

Because I think he just realized, like, I don't, Jerry Reinsdorf will never fire me, and I don't.

2Speaker 2
00:39:23.78 – 00:39:29.50

Have to go recruit. Yeah, the recruiting thing is big. I would like a professional job to a college job, one is so much easier.

00:39:29.56 – 00:39:33.88

Right, but did they go after Bruce Pearl? Did they talk to him that one?

3Speaker 3
00:39:34.32 – 00:39:42.90

I didn't see anything, I think I think. Matt Jones said. They did not interview Pearl Beard and Miller. They did talk to at least two other people besides Pope. He thinks one was Shaka.

1Speaker 1
00:39:43.00 – 00:39:54.58

He doesn't know who the other was. I don't think they, like, Kentucky is a blue blood. And I think I think they would not go after Bruce Pearl because of like things in his past. But the thing in his past is a cookout, I know.

00:39:54.84 – 00:39:58.36

It's a barbecue, I agree, and also being a snitch.

2Speaker 2
00:39:58.62 – 00:40:03.60

Being a snitch, yeah, but I know his positions on the Middle East, he loves Big Blue Nation, yeah.

1Speaker 1
00:40:03.96 – 00:40:11.42

I just I. They have a weird thing about it, where they would, I think they would be like, Oh, we're Bruce Pearl, like, we can't touch that. Maybe he's a great coach too.

00:40:11.74 – 00:40:17.04

Maybe I just can't believe they didn't, they didn't offer a hundred million to Nate Oates. That's the crazy part to.

2Speaker 2
00:40:17.04 – 00:40:34.12

Me, cause I don't know if he would turn that down, yeah, um. There was also a tweet that Scott Drew put out yesterday where he was in a cafeteria in a cafe in Waco. With, like, one of the biggest boosters at Baylor. But then there was a report that Scott Drew's family flew to Lexington yesterday in the afternoon.

00:40:34.24 – 00:40:41.18

Scott Drew didn't go, according to this report, but his family did. Like his wife and kids went out there, so maybe his wife and kids went to Lexington, they were like.

1Speaker 1
00:40:41.72 – 00:40:46.68

No thanks, not for us. no thanks. Yeah, that might've been it.

00:40:48.04 – 00:40:54.04

What Lexington's nicer than Waco? Lexington's incredible, I love Lexington, Lexington is.

2Speaker 2
00:40:54.20 – 00:40:59.24

Is a good place go to Keeneland October and April. Waco is Waco's fun if you like three.

1Speaker 1
00:40:59.24 – 00:41:05.46

Strip malls and a biker shootout. And God, yeah, yeah, I like the chip gaines, the it was, he like.

2Speaker 2
00:41:05.46 – 00:41:11.26

A house flipper guy? Yeah, he got involved. Oh, yeah, no, it's Waco, is Chip and Joanna Gaines.

00:41:12.06 – 00:41:21.80

Um, probably some of R.G. Three's family still lives in the area. And then you have, like, two Ruby Tuesdays, I think, okay, and, uh, one twin peaks, I'm getting there.

00:41:22.08 – 00:41:26.18

One, I think, No, you don't have a tilt to kill it. You might have a hooters and a twin peaks. Okay, that works.

00:41:26.26 – 00:41:32.30

Yeah, so you can change it up. Yeah, you can switch it up every now and again. The twin peaks has like 5,000 bullet holes and switch back and forth.

00:41:32.32 – 00:41:34.54

Yeah, yeah, all right, anything else.

1Speaker 1
00:41:34.54 – 00:41:46.12

Before we get to, Uh, Kirk Minahan and Ryan Whitney talking more, Masters Hank, get excited, everyone. The Fire Fest is a great one. you don't want to miss it. it's a great fire fest.

00:41:47.26 – 00:41:53.28

Set your alarm for the fire fest. Yeah, don't sleep in for the fire fest, right, right?

00:41:53.56 – 00:41:58.94

Yeah, all right, let's kick it to ourselves. Then we'll do an interview and then do not miss the fire fest, okay?

00:41:58.94 – 00:42:25.56

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00:43:07.82 – 00:43:19.20

Okay, we now welcome on two of our very good friends. It is Kirk Minahan from the Kirk Minahan Show and the Unnamed Show, and Ryan Whitney from Spitting Chicklets and also the Unnamed show. I want to talk some masters both.

00:43:19.20 – 00:43:25.80

Kirk is a historian of Augusta. Whitney is just a junkie. You're you golf more than you work?

3Speaker 3
00:43:25.80 – 00:43:33.08

No, I don't anymore. That is, that is a fake. What is the word, um narrative? That narrative is actually the right word.

00:43:33.10 – 00:43:41.42

That narrative was was true for a long time. And it's not so you don't golf a lot anymore, no, but it's actually not cause of work a lot.

00:43:41.50 – 00:43:48.96

Oh, cause kids, kids and coach and coaching and another kid coming. So yeah, like, I used to play a ton of golf and I don't anymore, and I don't even really want to talk.

2Speaker 2
00:43:48.96 – 00:43:52.98

About it. So you're very good at putt putt. Yeah, congratulations by the way.

00:43:53.14 – 00:43:53.50

I'm not taking.

3Speaker 3
00:43:53.50 – 00:43:57.22

It, congratulations. I'm not taking anything, I'm not taking it. Congratulations.

00:43:57.42 – 00:44:05.94

I know what you guys are doing, congratulations. I find it odd that, as long as we've been friends all three of us, really, that you guys aren't rooting for me. I told you, I'm rooting for you.

2Speaker 2
00:44:05.98 – 00:44:11.98

I don't believe you, I'm rooting for you. I congratulated you yesterday at 5 p..m. Who else would I be rooting for? I was the first person.

00:44:11.98 – 00:44:12.88

I don't know, but you're saying.

3Speaker 3
00:44:12.88 – 00:44:17.94

Congratulations before the end of a tournament that's blatantly trying to trying to mush it.

1Speaker 1
00:44:18.08 – 00:44:22.12

Trying to ruin it. You think I'm rooting for Stephen Che over you? No, but there's a million.

2Speaker 2
00:44:22.12 – 00:44:26.74

Others Who do you think I would rather see win than my good friend Ryan Whitney? Frank The Tank?

1Speaker 1
00:44:27.06 – 00:44:29.40

Well, that's true. Yeah, he's right, it's fair, it's fair.

00:44:30.00 – 00:44:38.30

He's ahead of me, actually, all right. So masters, Uh, well, first, I have a question for you, Kirk. We had this problem. You would have been very embarrassed for us.

00:44:38.50 – 00:44:43.02

Yeah, they had the green Jacket dinner. We're looking at the guys, champion's dinner, Champion's dinner.

00:44:43.08 – 00:44:49.84

Sorry, it's okay, that's fine. If I say the name Wilford Brimley won a Masters, who would I be talking about? I'd say Craig Stadler.

00:44:49.92 – 00:44:51.84

Yeah, that was it all right, so I knew you'd nail it, I knew.

00:44:54.38 – 00:44:58.38

Everything he was in a bunch of movies, right? Yeah, we're like, who the hell is that Wilford Brimley or Craig Stadler?

00:44:58.48 – 00:45:00.86

No, I know who Wilford Brimley is, I didn't know Craig Stadler, I think.

3Speaker 3
00:45:01.00 – 00:45:10.58

Was in one of the guys in Tin Cup, I think he was, yeah, he was the guy, he was the guy who gave him the club to give it a try. When McAvoy then fired him, where do we feel about that movie?

2Speaker 2
00:45:10.66 – 00:45:18.14

Though Tin Cup, I love it, I've heard I love it too, but I've heard a lot of people say it's like the worst sports movie ever. I will say the course stinks.

00:45:18.28 – 00:45:20.40

I love it if you look at the course.

3Speaker 3
00:45:20.40 – 00:45:29.10

It's awful. Yeah, it's fine, it's okay, but for just like a driving rage hustler pro. And then when the guy hits it down the road to get all his money.

00:45:29.22 – 00:45:35.24

Don Johnson, Don Johnson, that's right, classic, like he's still going. Yep, Kirk, if you could rank your top.

4Speaker 4
00:45:35.24 – 00:45:41.96

Three masters of all time 92 Fred couples wins. That's your guy. I love that. 98 was a great masters.

00:45:42.10 – 00:45:44.90

Freddie lost to O'Meara, but that's where Nicholas finished sixth at 58.

00:45:45.66 – 00:45:51.50

Tiger and Nicholas time, that's the beauty of the masters. Time stands still. Yep.

00:45:52.24 – 00:46:02.10

Third, I mean, Tiger winning. I'm a huge Tiger fan, but Tiger winning in 19 was, and I'd say 86 was my first one. I really remember, with my dad Nicholas winning in 86, yeah.

00:46:02.22 – 00:46:04.68

He was old then, too, wasn't he? 46? yeah.

2Speaker 2
00:46:04.80 – 00:46:07.54

Wow, you love Freddie couples. Yeah, he's a friend, love him.

00:46:07.74 – 00:46:18.58

How did you start? I'm always curious about that, whether it's like a golfer or a NASCAR driver, or just like an individual player in a sport. How do you like, fall in love? And you're like, I'm going to root for that guy.

4Speaker 4
00:46:18.66 – 00:46:25.48

It was weird for me too, cause like Larry Bird, I was like six years old Fred couples. I was like 17. I just watched him on TV. I thought the swing was great.

00:46:25.52 – 00:46:29.52

It's beautiful, I liked his attitude, I liked the whole thing, He's cool, yeah.

00:46:29.68 – 00:46:35.32

It just can, you know. I was, yeah, he kind of boom, boom, he was my guy. Yeah, it's kind of it's. It's hard to define.

00:46:35.74 – 00:46:36.50

Do you do you like?

1Speaker 1
00:46:36.50 – 00:46:41.08

That he does, like the green ball, yellow ball, I play with that. Now. You do, yeah.

00:46:41.32 – 00:46:41.96

Is he playing?

3Speaker 3
00:46:41.96 – 00:46:45.10

This year, he's playing right now. Yeah, yeah, he's like wounded, too.

00:46:45.24 – 00:46:46.40

He's back around, he's.

4Speaker 4
00:46:46.40 – 00:46:46.62

60.

00:46:46.86 – 00:46:54.48

When your favorite player is 64 and you're and everyone there is like rooting, like watching the leaderboard. I'm on the phone watching Fred Couples at 64. Yeah, it's two different things.

2Speaker 2
00:46:54.52 – 00:46:58.02

Is he still wearing those big khakis all the time, like the Tracy McGrady suit? No, he's like.

4Speaker 4
00:46:58.32 – 00:47:02.02

Uh, yeah, and he's got. He's not wearing the echoes anymore. Yeah, the skater shoes, yeah.

1Speaker 1
00:47:02.60 – 00:47:09.26

He is cool, so what, how long do you think he's going to play for? Cause? Like, if I were, if I were a Masters champion, I'd play till the a hundred made me.

00:47:09.36 – 00:47:10.48

They kick you out, yeah, right.

4Speaker 4
00:47:10.48 – 00:47:16.48

But they do tell you to stop playing, they can't. they send you a letter, really. Yeah, the first hole there has a hill.

00:47:16.58 – 00:47:28.08

How much they get us to clear that hill, to get to the top? Yeah, probably three, 300, 90, yeah, some of these guys, 60, I think some of these guys. Now. Like, once you can't even get to the beginning of the hill, they write you a letter.

00:47:28.14 – 00:47:33.82

They're like, yeah, like, I didn't know. They wrote a letter as far as like, I arnold got the letter one year really, and then what does the letter say?

00:47:33.88 – 00:47:42.84

You're done. It's like, in their way, like, Hey, you're a great champion, you've been, you've meant so much to the community. It's like, when, Um, your boy used to knock on the door of the Hall of Fame guy, yeah.

00:47:43.20 – 00:47:48.40

He'd be like, thank you so much for what you've done to the game they get and then like, you can't play here. The best story about that is.

3Speaker 3
00:47:48.40 – 00:47:57.94

Billy Casper One. And then he kept playing and playing and playing. And then one year he shot 105 and he didn't 105, he didn't post the score. He's never turned in his card.

00:47:58.06 – 00:47:58.54

And that was it.

4Speaker 4
00:47:58.54 – 00:48:12.62

Oh, I mean, that's great. 105. The problem the problem with that is is, I will say, like, if you were a competitive tour player and you get paired with Billy Casper and the guy. It's like, when I was playing Frank the other day, obviously, it took me a while to react to it, like about a.

1Speaker 1
00:48:12.62 – 00:48:16.72

Day, but it does break you. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. I think some of the guys, too.

3Speaker 3
00:48:17.16 – 00:48:21.64

Want to make sure they don't get the letter like I got to go over before I get it, yeah, right.

4Speaker 4
00:48:21.70 – 00:48:25.90

Cause that has to be a blow to your most guys, most. You don't really see that anymore. No, so.

3Speaker 3
00:48:25.90 – 00:48:33.14

Do you well? They all smash it now, everyone should continue, like now the distance, everyone hits it, so even the old guys, they smash the ball. So do you think Freddie couples will get?

4Speaker 4
00:48:33.14 – 00:48:38.02

The letter, No. I think he's too smart. Next year it'll be his 40th Masters, he'll be 65..

00:48:38.12 – 00:48:45.98

I think that's going to be that's going to be one of the six or seven worst days. And he's made the cut a bunch of time, it got last year, yeah, oldest guy ever to make the cut.

00:48:46.10 – 00:48:48.34

You 63 years, five months.

1Speaker 1
00:48:48.34 – 00:48:56.80

In like, 14 or 15 days, especially cause tiger, tiger can't make the cut. Tiger's not making a.

4Speaker 4
00:48:56.80 – 00:49:00.30

This year, you don't think so? No, I bet on him too, I bet he might.

00:49:00.54 – 00:49:11.02

I mean, think about the masters is, though, if you're doing cuts and miscut, bet like the field's smaller. And there are a bunch of old guys and a bunch of amateurs, right? It is the easiest cut, oddly, to make in.

2Speaker 2
00:49:11.02 – 00:49:15.68

Golf Yeah, I didn't realize. Hardest tournament, easiest cut, not even the hardest tournament.

4Speaker 4
00:49:16.00 – 00:49:20.96

I don't think it's it's the best Open. yeah, yeah, tough U.S. Open, even the Open Championship is tougher.

00:49:21.04 – 00:49:35.40

I think PGA is tougher now, I think the field's harder. So this is the. I think it's the best tournament, but it's the oddly the easiest cut to make if you're a good pro. So I think Tiger, like, honestly, done in my head, I think Tiger, probably 50, 50, right?

3Speaker 3
00:49:36.08 – 00:49:42.90

I think it's 50 50 finishes. It's when he plays golf, he can't walk. Yeah, the weather's good, though, it seems like right now.

00:49:42.92 – 00:49:45.44

So Kirk and I have been lucky enough to go there, have you guys?

2Speaker 2
00:49:45.44 – 00:49:51.22

Been there? No. I kind of liked the fact that we'll probably never go. I want to go, but you.

3Speaker 3
00:49:51.22 – 00:49:58.50

Could go, Yeah, I want to go. I was saying to Dave, like, I thought, even if you don't like golf, you just get there. It is insane.

00:49:58.78 – 00:50:09.74

The Hills and the Undulation on TV. You're like, Oh, it's like, you get out there, you're like the 10th hole. It's gotta be 200 yards downhill and 18s and 18s right next to it.

00:50:09.80 – 00:50:13.22

Same way, so the walk for tiger, like the guy, can't walk on the range, I know.

1Speaker 1
00:50:13.76 – 00:50:18.30

Yeah, we. We asked Max about that, and he was like, Yeah, it's actually, it's more daunting than you.

3Speaker 3
00:50:18.30 – 00:50:22.64

Realize, when you're cause, I look at that like, that's probably even crazier in person, yeah.

4Speaker 4
00:50:22.64 – 00:50:35.42

You guys got Max home to go on a podcast, yeah, are you turning the J.D. Salinger? The problem is, I do like him, but yeah, I think he has that is a rory disease that a lot of people, a lot of people have.

00:50:35.42 – 00:50:42.88

This he wants to be liked too much. He's a very nice guy. Yeah, I'm glad he's friends with you guys. But I want him to be more of an asshole because I think assholes win.

1Speaker 1
00:50:42.88 – 00:50:51.96

These things, yeah, so are you speaking of an asshole who we also like? And Whitney has actually turned the corner on him. Are you on teams team Brooks now? Well, I have, well, unfortunately, I.

4Speaker 4
00:50:51.96 – 00:50:56.16

Have to be. He was part of him, he took my side in the Writer Cup, right? So I, Oh, he did, yeah.

3Speaker 3
00:50:56.26 – 00:51:01.42

Yeah, that was five. I was right, I mean, but I didn't know that. The Writer Cup, the writer.

4Speaker 4
00:51:02.40 – 00:51:08.54

Writer Cup The Writer Cup, Yes, um, like, O.J. Simpson was a writer, like, If I did it, yeah, great book.

00:51:09.16 – 00:51:16.46

Um, yeah, he took my side on that and he did something else. He had my back on something else, too. I forget what it was with him on something. I also think you, you liked that.

1Speaker 1
00:51:16.46 – 00:51:26.54

He was still competing in the Rider Cup when they were, when the U S was very much out in that max as well. They both were like, No, we're going out with a fight. He beat Ludwig. Yeah, we're not.

4Speaker 4
00:51:26.54 – 00:51:39.22

Going to let them walk over? I mean, he did lose nine, eight to him in the four ball, but I so I don't know. I keep doing this with Bryce. And I was telling, talking to Whitney about it, like, I don't know where. Tom's going to get fooled by Bright, by by Brooks, playing bad in some live event.

00:51:39.30 – 00:51:43.22

Who cares, right? But he was terrible last week, I think he was 78, 78 or something.

3Speaker 3
00:51:43.30 – 00:51:46.46

Yeah, and the second two rounds, yeah, yeah, which, like, should matter.

00:51:46.48 – 00:51:47.08

But for him, I don't.

4Speaker 4
00:51:47.08 – 00:51:50.24

Think it matters? We'll find out today. But he's playing terrible, but he's always playing.

2Speaker 2
00:51:50.24 – 00:51:57.14

Terribly for a major, right? He's got such a crazy resume. I think actually, the worst that he plays going to the Masters, the better. And he might be right, cause he's like, just thinking.

4Speaker 4
00:51:57.14 – 00:52:02.26

About the masters, he's probably hitting shots at Doral, like thinking of the 13th of the Guy.

3Speaker 3
00:52:02.56 – 00:52:12.68

I'm going to try. I paid 200 million, I saw a PC did with Golf.com or something. And the guy's like, basically on the range with them and he's like, What are you thinking right now?

00:52:12.68 – 00:52:21.14

He's like, nothing, nothing, and and and it's like, golf's like it, just it's a fucked up sport. The more you think, the worst you are, and the guy just steps up and smashes it.

00:52:21.64 – 00:52:30.20

And and loves being the bad guy. That's like, when I met him, I was like, Oh, this could be kind of awkward. I gotta, I gotta tell him like, I've chirped you 5 million times, right?

00:52:30.30 – 00:52:35.26

And he's like, I love that dude, I love the kind of love. Being the bad guy like he was, just he doesn't give a shit, yeah.

00:52:35.46 – 00:52:35.88

He does.

2Speaker 2
00:52:36.00 – 00:52:39.46

Who do you like? Who do I like? Yeah, who are your? who are your like? favorite? I like Sal.

3Speaker 3
00:52:39.46 – 00:52:48.08

TaUruS A lot. This Ludwig guy from Sweden. It's like my new favorite golfer. Great, great, great. He's just he's like, built in a lab, perfect swing stallion.

00:52:48.08 – 00:52:52.96

Six, three, like, I think he's going to end up being a true superstar. Oh, there's Freddie, I like him.

00:52:53.28 – 00:52:53.62

Freddie's right.

1Speaker 1
00:52:53.62 – 00:53:02.38

There. So, all right, how's he looking? I got a question about this field. Scotty Schaeffler is obviously the favorite by a large, large margin.

00:53:02.52 – 00:53:05.06

What is it about Scotty Schaeffler that has him?

4Speaker 4
00:53:05.06 – 00:53:16.56

That much ahead of everyone else. His stats, like pure golf stats tee to green, are as good as better than anybody since Tiger in his prime. I'm talking like, I think, matching him at some point.

00:53:16.56 – 00:53:25.78

I'm talking like 2000 Tiger Prime, right? If he putts well, he's going to be in the top two or three. He may not win, but you know, if he doesn't putt well, he's going to finish like eighth.

3Speaker 3
00:53:25.84 – 00:53:30.14

Not to disagree, I think it's if he putts average, right? That's what I mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:53:30.24 – 00:53:41.30

So just putter is the only thing that stops him. Yeah, and then Rory, which is kind of crazy to me. This is what Kirk's saying. Liking an asshole like in golf, I would never give anyone a tip or a pointer.

00:53:41.76 – 00:53:47.48

Right, and Rory was on the broadcast and he's like, I think Scotty should go to a mallet putter. Yeah, yeah, and he did.

00:53:47.58 – 00:53:52.70

And now he's putting good. It's like, Rory. Did Michael Jordan say that? No, that's crazy.

00:53:52.90 – 00:53:56.34

It's crazy, no, it's a game of honor and I guess. But Michael?

1Speaker 1
00:53:56.34 – 00:54:01.66

Jordan would buy Scotty Schaeffler a new blade putter, right? This is awesome, this will fix.

4Speaker 4
00:54:01.66 – 00:54:06.68

Everything, yeah. There are weeks where Schaeffler is first tee the green, first around the greens.

1Speaker 1
00:54:06.68 – 00:54:11.50

In like, 118th in putting, and he's that, so he's that good that, even with that bad of putting.

3Speaker 3
00:54:11.62 – 00:54:16.22

He's still, he'll putt bad and finish like horrible and finish eighth, right? It's crazy.

2Speaker 2
00:54:16.38 – 00:54:19.52

What's up with his footwork? At some point, you would think that somebody would beat that out of.

3Speaker 3
00:54:19.52 – 00:54:22.56

Him, right, like, growing up, I think people tried to, Yeah, maybe.

00:54:22.98 – 00:54:28.48

And he's probably like, and then I bet you there was a coach that's like, Hey, don't fuck with it, like, I think the better.

4Speaker 4
00:54:28.48 – 00:54:33.36

Question is like, why isn't somebody else doing it? Yeah, yeah, like he does it and like, he's.

2Speaker 2
00:54:33.36 – 00:54:38.74

You think someone would copy, or anybody, but he has a different every stroke, that's true. Yeah, it's not like he repeats the exact same thing.

00:54:38.86 – 00:54:41.66

He finds a new way to fuck his feet up, it's like.

3Speaker 3
00:54:41.66 – 00:54:48.26

Shooting McGavin like trying to happy Gilmore in the woods. Yeah, I should probably bet on the range, like trying it. They just don't want to ever have it be on camera, yeah.

00:54:48.56 – 00:54:55.26

What so Kirk, cause you? you obviously are. I like him a lot of. Sorry not playing well this year. I like him. A.

1Speaker 1
00:54:55.26 – 00:55:05.66

Lot. He was awesome at the end of last year. So you're, you're a historian of the masters. What? How many times do you think a guy has to play it till they get that like advantage of? I know this course cause?

00:55:05.66 – 00:55:14.38

Like, even when we're talking about Tiger missing the cut or making the cut, uh, you have to think Tiger has a couple of strokes. Just on familiar way around, right? I'd say, when you.

3Speaker 3
00:55:14.38 – 00:55:15.14

Get to like year 10.

00:55:15.60 – 00:55:19.18

Oh, it takes that long, I think. The first time winners Fuzzy Zeller.

4Speaker 4
00:55:19.66 – 00:55:25.30

Other than the first year of it, like the first, he's the only. Yes, 79 is the only one he beat. Ed Sneed in the playoff, I think.

00:55:25.34 – 00:55:27.46

Yeah, he's the he's the only one. And then he had a tough quote.

2Speaker 2
00:55:27.46 – 00:55:30.78

Yeah, it's still alive, though. Social media today that would be learned. Oh.

1Speaker 1
00:55:30.86 – 00:55:34.72

He would be a moment, Yeah, he's selling vodka now, is he? Oh yeah.

00:55:34.82 – 00:55:35.42

He's doing well, don't?

3Speaker 3
00:55:35.42 – 00:55:40.78

Put me in that boat, put me in that boat. That's got a lot in common. Don't put me in that boat.

1Speaker 1
00:55:41.00 – 00:55:45.98

Yeah, so you think 10 time it's that, it's that, like, there's that many quirks and weird things.

4Speaker 4
00:55:46.16 – 00:55:49.22

Yeah, it's just it's, yes, yeah, to become like a established veteran, yeah.

00:55:49.42 – 00:55:50.48

Yeah, everyone says.

3Speaker 3
00:55:50.48 – 00:55:58.98

It's all about where you're at, where you're at a miss, miss. And like you. Just like, if you're missing one spot, you're fine, if you're missing another spot, you're dead. And not knowing the course, it's just like, I don't know where to miss, yeah.

00:55:58.98 – 00:55:59.82

What's the next change you're doing?

2Speaker 2
00:55:59.82 – 00:56:04.94

At Augusta, cause they they tiger proofed it, they made it long, they still, they're still doing trees.

00:56:05.30 – 00:56:08.82

Are they? Do they have any plans to, like, redo different holes? They pushed two back.

4Speaker 4
00:56:08.82 – 00:56:27.42

This year, um, they pushed 13 back last year, way back, and so there's, I mean, there, there's. They just buy it, so if you've never been there. So if you drive up to Augusta, like the street behind, it is like, you get, you see Augusta and you think, Oh my God. Behind it, there's like Applebee's, Chili's strip clubs, it's awesome.

00:56:27.54 – 00:56:34.32

It's a shit hole. It's like Route 1 in Saugus, and then all of a sudden you take a right and you're Augusta. So they're buying land, like they're trying to buy the. Eventually, it's going to be like, just.

00:56:34.64 – 00:56:38.38

The whole area, yeah, it'll be the master's exit, it'll just be all, I think, all, yeah.

00:56:38.38 – 00:56:42.54

They said they'll have an exit at some point. Yeah, they're talking about underground parking there now. Oh yeah, I saw that.

00:56:42.78 – 00:56:49.22

Yeah, so I think they're thinking more, like the course is what? 76 50, I mean, how much more they can.

3Speaker 3
00:56:49.22 – 00:56:54.30

Do right now. If I said yesterday the chairman, he does, like a yearly Fred Ridley, Yeah, I want.

4Speaker 4
00:56:54.30 – 00:56:57.42

Your opinion about some with him in a second, but go ahead the Tuesday press conference where he.

3Speaker 3
00:56:57.42 – 00:57:06.46

Just like addresses, everything, and and he, and he said, Yeah, we'll never make it longer than 8,000, so it's like, Oh my God, like 8,000, like, that's just thinking of that, that's like the.

1Speaker 1
00:57:06.46 – 00:57:12.86

Whole distance debate in golf. Yeah, yeah, which is, I mean, I don't really understand it I get.

4Speaker 4
00:57:12.86 – 00:57:16.80

Like the equipment, the balls now is just just crazy what they ended up doing. I'd like your.

3Speaker 3
00:57:16.80 – 00:57:33.16

Opinion in PFT European. They ended up. There was discussion of making the pro game different than than us where we are. Everything's the same for us. But the pros hit a different ball that goes shorter. They ended up doing it where they didn't change, where it was all the same, and they're just making everyone hit it shorter in like five years.

00:57:33.18 – 00:57:44.70

So it kind of sucks for so everyone's going to have shorter balls. Yeah. So for distance being an issue with 99.9 of golfers, it's like, kind of sucks that now we're hitting it shorter. So is that going to be a.

1Speaker 1
00:57:44.70 – 00:57:51.10

Thing where Curt's hitting hybrid from. Is that going to be a thing where, like, people hoard?

3Speaker 3
00:57:51.10 – 00:57:54.70

Balls from right now, that's what people have brought up, but I think they go like, bad.

4Speaker 4
00:57:55.76 – 00:57:58.02

Yeah, that's gonna be like premium, though, they're going to freeze and they'll figure.

3Speaker 3
00:57:58.02 – 00:58:01.52

Something, Yeah, yeah, that's actually, that's actually I might have to buy like.

1Speaker 1
00:58:01.80 – 00:58:06.16

Yeah, sounds like you're just selling them on eBay. Beginning of Covid. Yeah, so Fred Ridley.

4Speaker 4
00:58:06.28 – 00:58:14.20

The chairman of Augusta Uh, they have the Champions dinner, like you were talking about earlier, so it's all champions in the picture. You see the picture over here, yep, but Fred Ridley's in the picture.

00:58:14.34 – 00:58:17.24

Oh, that's bullshit, that's stolen valor. It sounds like the Fred.

3Speaker 3
00:58:19.44 – 00:58:23.30

All of them are like, every chairman's been in that, I know, but I don't like that, I don't.

4Speaker 4
00:58:23.30 – 00:58:27.62

Like that, either, he's not a champion. It's worse as he was like a failed kind of play, at least.

1Speaker 1
00:58:27.62 – 00:58:35.16

He played in it, though. But if you want, if you want that picture, take that picture and then take another picture without you in it. And that's when they send out, if you look at the picture.

4Speaker 4
00:58:35.20 – 00:58:38.46

Yes, dead in the middle, oh, that's, oh yeah, Nicholas is like, on the side.

00:58:38.56 – 00:58:39.90

It becomes a fred.

2Speaker 2
00:58:39.90 – 00:58:45.82

Ridley Dinner, it's not the Champions dinner. And yeah, like, Oh, yeah, that's his favorite day of, yeah.

00:58:46.36 – 00:58:55.06

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00:59:14.14 – 00:59:20.22

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00:59:20.54 – 00:59:23.14

What would you guys do for your Champions dinner if you set the menu?

3Speaker 3
00:59:23.78 – 00:59:27.72

I think I'd be a big time disappointment, it'd be it would be like if you went to a nice.

2Speaker 2
00:59:27.72 – 00:59:38.18

Steakhouse They're all medium, that's what they usually are. Faldo If you look at them, everybody's got like, uh, uh, a ribeye. As one of the courses, Faldo was killing Bubble Watson.

4Speaker 4
00:59:38.18 – 00:59:47.74

Earlier this week, Cause Bubble Watson's Champions dinner was Chuckie Grill, chicken breast, mac and cheese and confetti cake. For. I'm like, That sounds great, yeah, you're like, Petty.

00:59:47.74 – 00:59:51.62

Cake is awesome Rom's menu. I'm like, I don't, I'm, I'm picky, I wouldn't.

1Speaker 1
00:59:51.62 – 00:59:59.20

Eat any of it? Confetti cake is also one of those cakes that you never go out and try to find. But when you ever you're at a party hammer, it's there. You're like, This is awesome, I should.

2Speaker 2
00:59:59.20 – 01:00:03.00

Eat it more, right? Birthday cake in general should be on more menus. Absolutely celebrate.

3Speaker 3
01:00:03.00 – 01:00:09.22

Just for a birthday. are you? Are you getting birthday cake ice cream flavors? Oh yeah, all the time. birthday cake ice cream is very good.

01:00:09.44 – 01:00:11.28

Yes, oh my God, Bryson might just make a whole.

1Speaker 1
01:00:11.28 – 01:00:19.36

One here, it's going to be 600 here, so all right, so who, besides Scotty, who who else do you guys think can win it this week? I know that we're going to be taped.

01:00:19.44 – 01:00:20.14

We're taping this during.

3Speaker 3
01:00:20.14 – 01:00:35.62

The first round, so Rom, Rom. I know he's off to go on there, but he's probably going to be in the mix. I, we were just saying before the show began, I, I've never been the biggest Bryson fan. He's just so weird and bizarre. But if he was in the hunt, just the drama it would create I'd like.

4Speaker 4
01:00:35.62 – 01:00:39.56

To have him around, he's a bizarre human. We've kind of not had him for the last couple of years.

3Speaker 3
01:00:39.92 – 01:00:48.10

Now we'll be back in our lives for a couple of days. And he gained like 50 pounds of muscle, but now he's lost some of it. He's too jacked, he's just a weird cat and he has one of my favorite.

4Speaker 4
01:00:48.10 – 01:00:54.80

Qualities that he's, he's stupid, but he thinks he's smart. Yeah, my favorite. He feels like that, too. He thinks he's so smart.

01:00:54.94 – 01:01:00.62

He's got all this equipment that he trains with. Yeah, he talks down. If you ask him a question, it's like 50,000 words of nothing, yeah.

01:01:00.86 – 01:01:01.46

You remember that video?

2Speaker 2
01:01:01.46 – 01:01:06.08

Where it was like it was in his like five buddies, his five rowdy boys, that just worked.

3Speaker 3
01:01:06.08 – 01:01:13.18

Down in his garage, right? Oh yeah, they were yelling as they were benching. Well. Bryson made a famous quote that he considered a par 68 for himself.

01:01:13.18 – 01:01:15.10

Yeah, and then that just bit him, right.

4Speaker 4
01:01:15.10 – 01:01:26.72

In the ass. I was on with Foreplay a couple of days. We were talking about that that year, he said it. He was paired in the final round with Longer, who was 62 at the time. He was out, driving longer by 150 yards and holds.

01:01:26.72 – 01:01:28.80

Longer beat him 77.

01:01:29.76 – 01:01:39.64

Yeah, so I mean, I like Shuffles off to a terrible start and I liked Matsuyama. I don't know where he is right now, but I mean, there's what do you think, 12 14 guys that can win?

01:01:39.84 – 01:01:46.80

Yeah, maybe not even yeah. I mean, the the the pro, like, you know, the sheffler of it all. It just looms and he's such a bore, I understand.

1Speaker 1
01:01:46.80 – 01:01:50.18

He's a wonderful player, but he's so he doesn't really have much person my thing is with.

3Speaker 3
01:01:51.44 – 01:02:00.10

Then we had Sheffler, and who had in 2021, who won the Masters? Yes, uh, Rom, Matsuyama, Matsuyama, Johnson, the 20 and then Johnson.

01:02:00.24 – 01:02:12.20

So four in a row bad Sundays, they've just been. I think Matsuyama had also kind of a little bit of a runaway. I don't care who wins, just back nine Sunday, give me three guys. Yeah, I just want a good.

4Speaker 4
01:02:12.20 – 01:02:16.08

Matsuyama Shuffley were kind of, but it was not great, cause he's been the water and 16 shop.

3Speaker 3
01:02:16.14 – 01:02:24.12

I remember so that was decently, but it wasn't great, that was decent. I just want if you could get like three or four guys in the mix, back, nine, that's all you want, and Rory and Rory should be.

2Speaker 2
01:02:24.12 – 01:02:27.72

Around, Yeah, you want to see a good leaderboard, you want to wake up Sunday morning and be like.

3Speaker 3
01:02:27.74 – 01:02:36.44

Look, we have a fucking leader. But even in this tournament, if it was not a great course of big names, the back nine, if there was four guys, it's just the drama. It's the second night, sorry.

1Speaker 1
01:02:36.68 – 01:02:41.94

Second night, so without the drama, when Tiger was winning and he was winning by as much.

4Speaker 4
01:02:42.06 – 01:02:46.66

What was the most? He's won the Masters by? Uh, well, in 97, he won by 15 right now.

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