The Future of Wellness: Biohacking – Cryotherapy and Red Light Therapy

Or what about even turn back the clock on aging skin? Now, what if I told you that you could achieve all of this and more by simply tapping into the power of cold and light? That's right. Today we're talking about two revolutionary therapies that are making waves in the wellness community. Cryotherapy and red light therapy.

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Now imagine stepping into a chamber so cold. it feels like winter in the Arctic, yet you emerge feeling rejuvenated, pain-free, and full of energy. Or picture basking in the warm glow of red light, knowing that it's not just relaxing, but also repairing your cells and revitalizing your skin from within. Sounds intriguing, doesn't it? And I have to share that I have personally enjoyed both cryotherapy and red light therapy.

And as a girl coming from Canada who does not like the cold, I am becoming obsessed with cryotherapy. It is two and a half to three minutes in icy, cold temperatures, and the amount of energy and clarity that I feel afterwards and even during, it really provides a huge rush of endorphins. And I'm excited to share more about these therapies with you and my personal experience, as well as a special surprise later in the show. So in this episode, we are going to explore how these therapies work, of course, the science behind them, and the incredible benefits that they offer. And now, whether you're an athlete looking to boost your performance, or perhaps you're struggling with chronic pain, or maybe you're simply curious about the latest wellness trends, this show is definitely for you.

I'm going to break down the complex science into simple, actionable insights that you can incorporate into your daily routine. And, as we know, routine is everything. As we've touched on a little bit when it comes to the neuroscience aspect, the more times that we repeat an action or a behavior or a thought, the more that it gets solidified and cemented into our daily habits, and it becomes a subconscious way to live life. So everything that we're teaching on this show, think about how can you incorporate it into your life? Is it something that's going to be beneficial for you?

Does it resonate with you? And how can you really just take control of your health with all of this information? Because that's what we're here to do. We're here to educate you and inspire you. And we're really here to give you all these options to make your own decisions about your own health.

So today, we have a lot that is not all just the science behind it, we're going to be sharing some real life success stories from people who have experienced huge results. And plus, I have two very special guests joining me. They are leading experts in biohacking, and they're going to provide insider tips on how to maximize the benefits of these therapies. Now, I am so excited. Today's show is going to be not like anything else, the amount of information.

we're going to go through the in depth experiences, and I really feel like it's going to resonate and inspire you to potentially look into different biohacking therapies for yourself and see what might work for you and what, you know, what really resonates with you. And that's what this is all about giving you the information to be able to make your own choices. But before we dive in, let me paint a picture for you. Now imagine waking up every morning with boundless energy, with a clear mind, and a body that really feels like it's functioning at its peak. Now imagine looking in the mirror and seeing not just the absence of wrinkles, but a glow that radiates health and vitality.

Now, that's the promise of biohacking. And today, we're going to show you exactly how to unlock it. So stay tuned, because by the end of this episode, you're going to have a roadmap to a healthier, more vibrant you. And whether you're new to the concept of biohacking or a seasoned pro, there is something here for everyone. Now, get ready to be inspired, informed, and empowered to take your wellness journey to the next level.

And remember, you can contact me anytime with questions and comments. My socials are at Jolene Goring. My website is JoleneGoring.com. I absolutely love hearing from all of our listeners. And I also want you to remember that taking control of your health is the most empowering thing that you can do.

Now, as the saying goes, the greatest wealth is health. And by making informed choices and exploring innovative treatments, you can really actively shape your well-being and live your best life. And no matter where you are in your health or healing journey, just by listening to this episode, you're taking a step in the right direction. And I want you to know that I believe in you. Now, you can probably hear in my voice, I am not the exact picture of health this week.

And you know what, I'm human too. And as we talk about life, and I'm learning and growing from sharing all this information with you, I'm not perfect. So I actually just got back from a trip up to Canada to visit family and friends. And I made healthy choices. But one thing that I do struggle with, well, basically, is not over committing.

So I used to live in Canada, I have so many family and friends up there. And I spent almost 10 days driving around, visiting so many people, going to so many events, reconnecting, it was so fulfilling and so fun. I don't think I stopped talking for 10 days. Hence, my voice is a little scratchy, I'm gonna have a quick sip of tea. So even all of us in the wellness industry, I did not get enough sleep, I over committed, I over scheduled.

I, like, I say, I think I met up with maybe 40 different, you know, friends and family. And just for my life back in Canada, it was so fulfilling to have that connection and communication. But I just recently got back to Arizona, and I was feeling really run down. And my voice is really raspy from all of the talking I did. And I realized, wait, I wasn't actually doing a lot of these wellness modalities.

I was doing the basics, right? When I'm traveling, I was taking my chlorella, I was drinking water. I have to admit, I was not as diligent on getting my sleep, since I wanted to see everybody and do everything. Growing up in Canada, close to the Rocky Mountains, I did so much hiking and all the great things and all the fun food and just the connection. It was truly amazing.

But I think sometimes it's interesting, after I got back from my trip, and I realized, wait, I'm run down, I need some of these biohacking modalities. So I'm really excited, actually, after having a conversation with you, I am going to go and do some cryotherapy and red light therapy and all the things. And last night, I made sure to get extra sleep. So that's where, in our healing journey, I want you to think about as well, we're never going to be absolutely perfect. We're going to go off path a little bit here and there.

And that's life, right? And a lot of what I talk about as well is healthy, indulgent living and how to truly live your best life and enjoy life and also feel great. And it's a continual process, learning and growing. And even myself, I'm in the in the health expert field, and I'm continually tweaking what works for me. So that's what's so fun to have all this information and all these different tools and tactics and modalities to pick and choose what works for you at this stage in your life.

And I invite you to continue to evaluate it as you go along. If you try something that you love, fantastic. If it's no longer working for you, that's fine. You can shift, you can shift and grow. So I'm so excited for our episode today.

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His name is Kyle Kramer from US Cryotherapy. And since 2009, they are the pioneers and founders of the whole body cryotherapy industry here in the USA. They use cold oxygenated air with cryotherapy, which is very important in terms of how effective it is and the safety of the therapy. Now, I personally go to US cryotherapy once or twice a week. I know I should go more.

I love all the modalities and Kyle is definitely an expert in biohacking and how to choose the best types of services and modalities and treatments for your health and wellness goals. So, Kyle, welcome to the show.

We'd love to kind of share a little bit of the backstory of, you know, my family's history regarding this industry and, you know, kind of the steps we've been taken. And, you know, we've been the leaders of creating all the protocol and the literatures around the US. cryotherapy. Can dive in and let you know, we've had about 30 professional training rooms that we're involved with. So we've definitely been considered the gold standard amongst the professional athlete world as well.

You know, we were the first on a military base as well in the United States.

We've also been kind of the first to get HSA and FSA approval within our space of the industry. So that's been a, you know, big game changer for us and others in the industry as well. Just continuing to try to be very, you know, active on how we go about our health and wellness and not being as reactive, right. So I think that's a big emphasis we'll talk on today is just the nature of, you know, proactive health routine and, you know, frequency of a lot of these treatments to get some of the best benefits.

And then the big emphasis around, you know, the whole body cryotherapy, chamber, and then all the other additional services we do, the simplest explanation is that they're all there to basically help enhance your circulatory response. We can help the body circulate better. A lot of other stuff starts working how it's supposed to. We can reduce inflammation and promote, you know, a healthier lifestyle.

And it could also be confusing to even know where to start if a person wants to. I mean, a lot of our, pretty much all of our listeners are really well versed on health and wellness. Everybody listening wants to elevate their health and just, you know, be healthier in any way possible. But, you know, how do you get started? if you want to get into this, you know, the biohacking realm, or whatever we want to call it?

How do you know which modality to start with? And just like what's going to work? the best for you?

You know, the National Institute of Health looking up some certain studies that have been done around these therapies. I know, for instance, there's a lot of whole body cryotherapy studies done, especially showing kind of the difference between what we call electric cryotherapy, which utilizes the cold oxygenated air, and a walk-in system compared to, you know, there's nitrogen gas based cryotherapies. And then there's also force cool cryotherapies where they're more so. flipping on a switch is not as much of that dry cold. But yeah, definitely, definitely referencing some studies out there helps a lot.

I know, you know, with the red light panels, as well as infrared saunas, there's a lot of good studies out there showing the, you know, efficacy around why some of these devices and manufacturers have gone to, you know, class two FDA medical devices.

Like we say, when I need to start going a little more often. But when I do, it just energizes me, I feel revitalized, I don't need my afternoon coffee. It's just a nice little reset in, you know, three minutes or less. But maybe you could we talk a little bit about like, what is cryotherapy, how to choose a good provider, because you were just saying there's so many different options. And until I met you, I didn't even know there was different types of cryotherapy.

And then, once it flushes back out, after the treatment's done, that's where you're getting a lot of those healing properties. The big focus is making sure that it's a whole body cryotherapy. And you're not doing partial cooling, because if you're doing the partial, it's more forced, and it's more strenuous on the body, it is very important to find a way to relax while you're doing the cryotherapy treatment.

It's different, it's, it's the full body, it's not one of the cylinder ones, it's a full room. And it's actually more pleasurable, actually, like I, you know, I do, yoga stretches, it's a whole room, I can just, you know, stretch and move around, and it doesn't feel claustrophobic. And it actually, it's less, I guess, maybe intense, or less, I don't know what the word is. But the other ones I've tried, I really didn't like, to be honest.

But I know my mom is a big yogi, and she does everything from headstands in there. So you can, you can kind of do everything except, you know, lick the cryotherapy chamber wall, I always reference the Christmas story in that regards. But yes, you're having increased range of motion, because of that cold oxygenated air in there. So it's very similar to feeling like, you know, you're up in the Rocky Mountains. So definitely, you know, you work on some slight and controlled breathing.

We always tell people, if you're moving excessively, it creates more of that windshield, which will drop your skin temp a little bit more, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. But for people that are just getting started, I would really recommend the first 45 seconds to a minute, focusing on relaxing. It's definitely enhancing the mind body connection, right. So I'm really trying to hone in on. that works.

And then definitely anything you can do to help relax the shoulders and the chest is going to make it an easier process. So, believe it or not, if you're actually, you know, shriveling up, like you would typically, if you're sitting at a, you know, cold football game in the stands, if you actually curl up, it makes it a harder process. So we have those stretch bars that align along the walls. I've seen NFL linemen put all their body weight into it. So I'm always telling people you can get as deep a stretch as you'd like.

But you can do everywhere, from lunges, a good backstretch. But my good one to start, I mentioned is putting the hands and kind of holding that reverse to work on that backwards grip to really open up the shoulders and, you know, promote that blood flow.

And when you do these type of biohacking therapies, that's where the routine is really key, because it picks up on those little, you know, benefits. And it wants to actually preserve more of those benefits. So that's why the routine is the big thing, with what we're, you know, preaching over here. But yeah, and then there's also a really good endorphin release. So norepinephrine and dopamine release, from a psychological standpoint.

So I recommend people, you know, once they get more comfortable going into the cryotherapy chamber, to even take off the beanie for the last 30 seconds, or potentially look to go to the headband, right, so the top of their head gets that cold exposure. We've actually partnered with the NFL Alumni Association, and I've seen a lot of really great results reducing CTE symptoms. And that's mainly due to the norepinephrine release. So there's a lot of really good components to it. But also just continuing to help, you know, have that body go through the thermoregulation, right.

So that's one of the biggest keys to is helping the body thermoregulate on a more enhanced level. So my dad's always talked about it. And if you really think about it, as a society, we definitely are more gravitating towards a very standard temperature setting. And so when it's hot outside, we're kicking on the AC trying to get it down to 70.. When this in the winter, we're kicking on the heater.

So the ability to help the body thermoregulate on a consistent basis, really helps it become that more efficient, you know, system as a whole.

So that makes sense what you're saying, where, if we're teaching our bodies, how do you adapt? And how do you acclimatize, and just how to deal with different stresses, it's going to translate to all areas of our life. So I feel like just by doing this, and you're completely right, the dopamine I, like I, after we record this, I may have to just go do a session. I feel amazing. I do.

I do two and a half minutes, but I didn't even think about taking the hat off or just using earband for even more. Is it more stimulation? Or it's just the top of your head to get a little?

That's what's helping, you know, the revascularization and also helping within the ANS as far as really activating that, you know, fight or flight response. But you know, you're coming out after the two to three minutes.

And so it's trying to keep that core stabilized. And so the best way to do that is actually slowing down a lot of circulatory properties. And this is why, and I was a former baseball player, I know a lot of professional baseball players have moved away from ice, and have focused on things that are helping with the circulatory response. So I always look at ice, you know, it gets a really good endorphin release, still those cold plunges, so I'm not totally knocking them. But I would say, you know, that's kind of it, it's definitely more of a masking technique for the pain, but it's not as much so helping with that whole body flush.

Why not choose the absolute best one that's going to get them the results. And then, you know, that, and it seems like what you're talking about is just going to get like the most bang for your buck, basically.

So that's always been the goal from the beginning. And we continue to have that and it definitely ties in, you know, to what I was mentioning on our chamber. being on a, you know, operation system of a standing room temp. We're not really having to worry about turning it on and off each session, right? It's running for our standard hours of operation.

Or, you know, it's just gonna take too long. But even just the littlest bit. And that's what I love about your cryotherapy chamber is a two and a half, three minute session, and you are, you know, out and about your day. If you don't choose to do the other modalities, which we're going to talk about in our next segment.

She's in all the time. She literally comes in in her work outfit, on her lunch break, she'll jump in the cryo chamber, and then straight back to work. And then sometimes, if she has time later on in the day, the way our packages work, she can come in and use up what she has on her access. pass later towards our closing hours, if that happens to work. But she's done a timer on it, her kids were waiting in the car on her one day, in and out of our facility in three minutes and 55 seconds.

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on that cellular level. You know, we have localized cryotherapy options. Those are great for anyone coming in, you know, with a specific knee injury, you know, sprain post-surgery works phenomenal for that. And so that one is easiest to look at as like a cold air blow dryer. And so think of a football to rugby ball size area where we're isolating that certain spot and really helping reduce those, you know, inflammation symptoms that you're having in that specific spot.

We also do cold air facials with it too. But yeah, we have percussion therapy, compression therapy. So I can understand where, you know, people start to definitely get a little bit overwhelmed, but that's why we love, you know, building that relationship with the customer to really understand what's going to work best for them that day. And the beauty of it is you could do one kind of routine one day, come back the next day and do something a little bit different. That's still going to help be promoting those responses.

Our infrared sauna is an amazing one too. If you're really not feeling the cold that day, it's a really good method to help the body detox more. And then we have a whole aesthetic and skincare line too, within the facility that, you know, really focuses more on non-invasive stuff to really help the body heal from within. I'm excited to have Christina on here for that. I know she's definitely going to be covering that segment and can definitely tell you a lot more facts in regards to red light therapy and how that's helping the skin.

The last couple of points I'll make on red light therapy is the ability to have the infrared setting with the red light therapy, which we have on our panels and most do out there. So that's not as much a concern, but the combination of both of those help more with the tissue and tendon healing too. It helps that red light penetrate deeper within the body.

And yeah, so I'll let Christina talk more on kind of, you know, the routine of red light therapy, how it works best on that essence and how it also ties in to the skin and beauty side. Amazing. Yes. Welcome, Christina.

I'd love to get your perspective on that.

So thinking like overall skin health is really where red light shines, like superficial healing of the skin. Our panels also offer infrared light as well, which is not visible to the eye, but really helps to promote that internal healing. So, you know, even when it comes to like muscle and tissue repair, which is really great. So there's really a benefit for really anyone that comes through our doors when it comes to red light therapy, whether if you're just wanting, you know, superficial cosmetic benefits from it, or if you're an athlete or someone that's very active, it also helps to accelerate the healing process on a cellular level. So it's really great when paired, especially with our whole body cryotherapy, which Kyle had mentioned a ton of the benefits earlier in the last segment.

And that's the thing that I really love about the different modalities and the different services that our company provides as a whole. And Kyle had mentioned in the last segment of how, you know, a mom was able to be in and out in under four minutes. That's the nice thing when it comes to services like these is the convenience of it. It's not super time consuming. Throughout all of our facilities, we have clients that come in and see us every day because of the convenience of it, which is really great.

Health and wellness doesn't have to be a big task. It doesn't have to be a tasking thing that we have to do all the time. It can be a very enjoyable experience. And that's the type of environment that we want to provide for all of our clients that come through.

So it's, it doesn't have to be all or nothing. And I love that you have so many different options to be able to offer, based on goals, timing, everything, basically.

And so, when we're talking about, you know, how it's helping you recharge on that cellular level, that is a really huge component to it, as we're activating that powerhouse of the cell. And that's, what's really promoting all these recovery response responses. Secondarily too, it's been, you know, reported to help with a lot of good, you know, better sleep. But also I always laugh about this one, but so my mom at home has a red light therapy mat that she uses all the time for morning yoga and morning meditation. I'm a huge dog person.

I think, if a dog can read the energy in a room, it can, you know, kind of go towards some of those people that are those good standing people. But also, similarly, with some of these types of therapies, my dog will sit next to my mom while she does her morning yoga on the red light mat and wait to be wrapped in it following her session. And he absolutely loves it. So, even for you animal lovers out there, there have been a lot of good benefits that people have seen in regards to red light therapy, helping with their dogs that have, you know, achy joints or going through a little bit of seasonal depression. I actually have my own red light.

And I do credit, I think part of that is based on the red light therapy as well. And yeah, animals, they gravitate towards what's healthy. They have a little better intuition than we do, or at least I think they listen to it better. sometimes. I've never, I've never met a dog.

that's lied. Very true. So what about, so we've talked about cryotherapy, red light therapy, both are my favorites. I'm so excited for my next session with you guys. What other modalities do you want to, when we were talking about biohacking, like you guys are the experts on so many cool different types of modalities and treatments, what else do you want to share?

Absolutely. So, you know, we,

So we have a lot of customization that we can provide for our clients, because health and wellness isn't always a one size fits all. And our focus as a company is really making sure that we're addressing the needs of everyone that comes through our doors. So those, you know, those service and modalities are pretty common within our facility as well. And then us as a company, as a whole, we have a really thorough vetting process when it comes to the services and modalities that we offer to our clients. And so, Kyle, at his facility in Scottsdale, they're actually, you know, trying out two new services, one being Avacent.

that really helps to improve circulation, which is a very common benefit for almost all of our services that we offer. And then we also, just as of yesterday, are starting to do demos and launching of our biocharger modality and service as well. For our clients to try before we roll it out to our franchise network.

So there's four natural frequencies that it's using. It's using the frequency harmonics. It's also has a PMF, you know, voltage electro field that's going out from it. And then it's also using red light therapy, along with the different photons and natural gases surrounding within the biocharger itself. So really, really cool.

We're very excited because it actually has upwards of 1500 different recipes that they call them. So when we get people that actually are signing up and making, you know, getting on the biocharger package, we can not only, you know, have them there to do services, but we can really customize. And that ties back into what we've all been talking about, exactly what's going on with them. So we can really, you know, fine tune that and search up these different recipes that's going to benefit them the most. And then the last thing that I really love about the biocharger is promoting a lot of what you know, we've been lacking as a society, I think.

And that's just that socialization aspect. So the biocharger definitely can fit, I think it's about six to eight people, you have to be within the six foot radius around the machine to really get those benefits. But we're very thrilled to be promoting it in that aspect, where you can come in with your friends and family members. And you can hang around this, you know, for 25 to 30 minute session, you can heal together, you can set the phones away, we can have the phones within that six foot space. So I think that's always good.

So yeah, I'm getting pretty excited about it. We're hoping to get some creative stuff that we can string up around it. that's emphasizing more of those social gatherings and, and healing as a whole. But yeah, if you look into, you know, the ability to heal through frequencies and harmonics, there's a lot of really powerful stuff that's been out there for centuries, ages. So it's just continuing to, you know, fine tune, I guess, stuff that's already been there, available to us.

But you know, how do we ground ourselves and continue to, you know, move forward and progress. And we definitely think the biocharger is one of them. And then I, you know, I'm a huge fan of the Avacyn. I know you liked it when you come in, Jolene, but really think there's something there with that. Had it for about five or six months now.

Probably one of my top, you know, three favorite services. And it's very relaxing. It's a lot different than, you know, some of the other services that are, I guess, more tangible of a feel. And this one's very soothing. But definitely, having that mix within, you know, the harmony of.

And I think that's where the intuition comes into. you have so many different choices. And people can come and just say like what they're actually in the mood for.

And so, essentially, as a company as a whole, our goal is to put your body into a natural state of healing. So all of our services really just help to jumpstart the body's natural healing process. versus putting something, you know, foreign into your body or use of medication. We're really just creating that, that internal jumpstart to your body's own natural healing processes. I love that.

And I know, Christina, one of your.

I'm going to reflect that in my state of health. But you actually have treatments as well that are beauty specific. Is that correct? That is correct. And just like the.

So we have our contouring services that we offer on site, that are a part of our beauty and aesthetic mix. And, like I said, non-invasive, like the rest of our services that we offer within the facility. But, Jolene, we notice that we see the best results when it comes to our aesthetic services, when we're combining them with our health and wellness services. Because we're constantly putting our body in a state of healing and repair, and even some additional benefits like naturally detoxing the body. A lot of our health and wellness services help to improve lymphatic health.

And, like you had just mentioned, you know, when you feel good, you look good, it's just a natural chain reaction that come with these services. And they're nice and progressive and require no downtime. Because I know myself, especially when I was in the center constantly, and I'm also a mother as well, sometimes I don't have time for downtime. So, just like we have that convenience when it comes to our health and wellness services, we also have that convenience with our aesthetic services as well. Where the average treatment time is between, you know, 20 to 45 minutes, which is really great.

With no downtime, like I had mentioned, so you can go on about your day afterwards. And that's the convenience that our clients really, really love, with the aesthetic side of what we do. And the fact that we include the health and wellness services into all of our aesthetic packages as well.

Yeah, my big emphasis would just be circling back to, you know, that routine is key and anyone's journey can start at any time. So I definitely try to, you know, help people, stay encouraged and don't think that, you know, if you've been neglecting some of it, that it's too late to start, because that's never really the case. And then also, tying into what you had mentioned, you know, we do have a lot of really cool features that can help with very, very good amount of people. But, for instance, we've always been very focused on helping know people in the community that we can, you know, recommend you to, we know that there's certain aspects that, you know, others might help with better.

And we've continued to have those available to others. And just once again, ties back into building, you know, the community around the business that we have at that certain city. And that's what it's all about, you know, because we can understand and be aware if there's certain issues that might be a little bit beyond our limitations. And then that's when we'd recommend to have, you know, a conjunction of therapies where we are still involved, but you know, you probably should be also upkeeping with somebody else as well. So we can really make that good progress, because that's what it's all about.

I love that. I love that community aspect.

An injury doesn't have to occur in order to make that a priority within your life. And it can be an enjoyable experience. And I think that that's one of the things that I've really enjoyed about our company as a whole is we've been able to not only educate our clients on the services that can really benefit them the most, but that we can make it an enjoyable experience that makes them want to be consistent and just improves overall, you know, health, wellness, and their lifestyle as well. The quality of life is really what we try to focus on as a company and providing that convenience.

It's just now's the time. Well, thank you two, so much for joining me. I got so much out of this conversation and you have re-inspired me to start taking better control of my health, visiting your center more often. So thank you both for sharing your expertise.

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