Maria Georgas: I Made Out with My Boyfriend’s Mistress [VIDEO]
2024-05-01 01:14:11
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Maria Georges, welcome to Call Her Daddy.
I am so excited to be here. I love you so much. Okay. I love you.
I love you. I'm so excited. I can't believe we're finally doing this. First of all, this has been a long time coming, which we will tell the Daddy Gang all about, but the entire world fell in love with you when you went on the season of The Bachelor, and ever since it ended, I feel like everyone has quite literally just been waiting patiently for you to speak, and you are finally here.
Yes. So I definitely needed the time to just be on my own, but if I was going to speak, I was going to speak here with you today on Call Her Daddy, and it was a long time coming, but I'm here now, and I'm ready.
Okay. Okay. I have so many questions, so let's just get into it.
Okay. Before you continue, this is really tight, and I want to slip into something a little bit more comfortable.
Okay. Be right back. Oh my God.
Okay.
Okay.
She's got her little unwell outfit on.
Oh, I'm feeling so myself right now. You have no idea.
Wait, really?
Oh, my God, this is me to my core.
Okay, but every single outfit you slayed this season. Like for anyone that didn't watch this season, Maria on The Bachelor, I don't know if I've ever seen someone come with like such good outfits. And I feel like I saw that all online. How did you even pack for this fucking season?
Oh, my God, it was so last minute. You guys have no idea. So I always wanted to be on the show. I had dreams about it. I was like, I'm gonna be on the show one day.
So I remember like I would always buy things in hopes. Stop. I swear to God, I'm not even kidding. And so when I actually got like, I was like fully in the running. They're like, okay, you're like in it.
But I was never getting a solid. yes. I was like, waiting, waiting, waiting. Three days prior, they're like, pack your bags, you're coming. You need this, this and this.
I'm like, holy shit, I had three days to pack.
Why did you always wanna be on The Bachelor?
I love the show.
Okay.
I love the show. I was such a huge fan and I had friends on the show and they had- You did? Yeah.
Wait, I feel like that's D.
Well, I mean, I don't know how much I wanna say. I feel like there's been, you know, people have talked about it and I'm sure people know who, but yeah, I've had people that have been on the show, that I've always said that like, I see you on it. And yeah, and so I was like, I'm gonna apply.
So you've romanced, are you intenuating, you've like romantically dabbled with people on the show?
I wouldn't say romantic, but obviously there was like,
I don't know what you wanna call it, whatever you wanna call it. It was just like a good thing going. And yeah, and I just remember talking to him about it and he was like, I can totally see you. You know what he said to me actually?
Should I be asking you like who you're talking about?
No, you shouldn't. Do you want me to say it?
I think I have to ask.
Well, I mean, I think it's been fairly obvious and I honestly, I'm so over the rumors and stuff like that. So Nick, obvious, oh fuck, but is this bad? Cause? he's like totally married.
No, I think that it's not, you're saying you're like in love with this person.
Yeah, nothing has ever happened between Nick and I, but, like, it's always been like a friendship.
Okay, but this, no, no, I think this is fine to say. Nick is one of the biggest people from the franchise. And the fact that, like, you, had like a little thing with him back in the day, but you never hooked up. No. You just had like a flirtatious banter.
Literally, that is all, like. he helped me through breakups. Like he was a good friend to me at points and it was great. But I remember, and I never really understood it until actually being on the show. He had said to me, he's like, I can see you being the villain.
He's like, you're going to go on, you're going to be the villain. And I was like, why, why me? Like? I would never go with the intention of becoming a villain. I didn't go in there and try to piss people off.
But I remember him saying, he's like, people are going to come after you. No matter what, I can just see it. You're going to be the villain. And it was just funny because after I finished filming, there was rumors about me being a villain. I'm like, but I wasn't, I know what happened.
Well, I feel like, just to sum it up again for anyone that didn't watch, like, I feel like people tried really, really, really, really, really, really fucking hard to make you the villain. And then everyone in America watching it was like, no, like, no, she's not the villain. actually. Like these girls that are basically gaslighting, Maria, are the villain. Okay, let's go back to the beginning.
I love how you were just like dropping bombs left and right. But I think it's fine to say the Nick Viall thing. I think he's like happily married now, and that's great. Everyone has a past.
And I just want everyone to know that, like, there's no animosity between us. Like, I think we have always been friends, obviously, whatever, but yeah, he's always been great to me. And like, I respect his relationship. I respect where he is now. I'm happy to see him grow.
But, yeah, to say that we didn't have a past, that would be a lie. So, like, I just hate this, like, it's been all over Reddit. I'm just wanting people to know that, like, it's nothing serious. But also, we respected each other along the way and I'm happy where he's at now. And I congratulate him.
Well, I was going to say, I also think the internet is too smart nowadays, where it's like, if you were connected to anyone in Bachelor Nation, as they say.
Oh, there's no secret, it's out.
Exactly. So. I think it'd be like, you'd be like remiss to not bring it up, because then everyone would be like, you're a liar.
Right, and I have nothing to hide. Like, I go through life where I feel like I have, you want to ask me questions? I want to answer.
I can tell.
No, no, really? Can you tell?
I can tell.
Yeah, so I'm like, you know what? Like, at the end of the day, I'm like, I rather speak on it than people build or create stories out of nothing. There's nothing to talk about there.
Amazing.
Literally.
So let's talk about your season. Okay. You are one of the most popular, I would say, Bachelor contestants in the history of ever. And you, just like, brought this energy to it, this relatability, you were normal. I think people could be like, see themselves being friends with you.
You're a girl's girl. Like, it was great vibes. How did you feel about all this attention?
Oh, my God. First of all, thank you for saying that. Like, that meant a lot, because I was actually talking about this with my friends. Like, when I had first come back home, I had to sit my family down to let them know like what kind of like shit, stupidity I went through in the house. I did not know how it was going to like play out and like how people were going to perceive me, because in the house, I felt like I was so wrongfully accused of things and people were just like taking me the wrong way.
And so I didn't know how things were going to play out. The fact that it was an honest edit, I can say, and like, showed exactly who I am. And I said to myself, I'm like, if I'm going to do this, I'm going to do this like exactly who I am. I'm not going on there with some alter ego. Like, no, no, no.
When my friends and family are going to watch, they're going to be like, that's my Maria.
Prior to this show. Yeah. Were you someone who was used to a lot of drama in your life?
And I talked about this on the show to Joey. I was like. the last thing I thought I was going to have problems with were the girls. I thought I was going to be like them. I thought the only problem I would have is if I like him or not, or if we can really see each other like becoming something.
Right. And so when that was my biggest concern in the house, I was like, oh my God, I, maybe that guy was right. Maybe, maybe it's like in, in weight. Okay. You want to hear something?
I actually, I actually have something to say.
Yes.
This is actually kind of fucked up. Okay. So Sydney, you know, Sydney?
No.
So in the house.
Oh, the one that was the minute to you. Okay, yes.
So funny enough, no, actually side note, I don't know if you want to keep this in, but this actually kind of like concerned me at one point. So when it first started, like airing, I remember someone sent me a photo of Nick and Sydney together. They were all friends because Sydney's friends with Ashley, I, and Nick's close with Ashley and Ashley's close with Sydney. And they were all in a photo together. I'm like, was this planned?
No, I'm not kidding. Besides all this, right now, I'm like straight shooter to you right now. Part of me was like, was this all planned? Because I was like, I did, I knew I was innocent. Like I knew I was innocent, hand to God.
So when this all started happening and then imagine dealing with that in the house and then coming out and seeing that she's friends with Nick, I was like-.
Right, because Nick had told you-.
There's something conspiring here.
Okay, so you walk someone through that maybe didn't watch the show. You're basically saying, you're seeing Nick Vial like tell you you're going to potentially be the villain. Yes. Then you're seeing Nick Vial be friends with the girl that attacked you the whole season.
Okay, keep this shit in, because you know what? I'm not kidding. I was, this was my exact thought process. I was like, there's something weird about all this, because it was too close, like it was too close to home. I was like, this was said, and now this and this.
Because if there was a, guys, if there was a moment in the house where I can say, okay, I deserve that. I would say, I would not even begin to think about this, but I was so innocent.
To someone that has no idea what the fuck we're talking about and has not watched the season of The Bachelor, you have these two specific women, I would say. Three. Three, okay, three women that were like hell bent on crucifying you.
Oh yeah.
Can you give like a brief synopsis of like what they were trying to like? basically kill you for?
Yeah, so there's a point in time where we see Medina. She was one of the older girls. I don't even like to say older, here we go with the age thing but she had mentioned that she felt insecure about her age and that she was losing time, and she thought, you know, Joey maybe might've not been giving her enough attention because of her age. And I stayed silent during that conversation. She kind of like addressed the room about it, and then, why did I say and they?
And they.
I don't know. So then we were outside and kind of, we had breaks, you know, throughout the day, but we're always being recorded and I knew that. So, despite having a break, I know like we're being recorded, but again, I was in the moment with my friend and we were kind of like going through what was like, said or during that moment, we were kind of just like, what's the word? Re-.
We're just like recapping.
Recapping, thank you very much, that moment. And all I said to her was like, I don't get why Medina would say that because like, I'm in her age group and I'm just saying like, she's a beautiful woman. Like, literally so beautiful. where I was like, I couldn't even fathom the idea that she was thinking that it had something to do with her age, why Joey's not giving her attention. I'm like, you're so beautiful, own it.
Like. you have so much going for you. You have, age is the last thing you should worry about. But I wasn't saying that to Medina. I was saying that to my friend as we were recapping the night.
And that's why I was like, I want to preface by saying like if Medina had come to me and said to me, Maria, I feel insecure, my age. I know you're like one of the older girls in the house too. Like, this is how I feel. I would never say, own it, you're hot. Like I would be like, no, let's talk about it.
This is how you feel, I'm here for you, you know? So obviously I was saying what I was saying to my friend behind closed doors, and I was being overheard by Sydney.
And instead of A, coming up to me to be like, hey, are you talking about Medina? Cause? she's my girl. Instead of like either coming up to me or talking to me one-on-one to be like, hey, I might've heard this, but I don't know. She started this entire thing on something she might've heard.
So that's where it all kind of started, though. And I think, like what we can acknowledge for women is like age is such a sensitive thing just because everyone makes us feel like when you hit 30, it's like, ooh, the clock is ticking. And so I empathize with what she was saying. And then I also agree with what you were saying of like, oh my God, girl, like, don't even fucking worry. You're hot, you're beautiful, you're young.
Like. 30 is young. 31 is young. 40 is young. We have to like retrain our brains to look at like women and age in a complete different way.
But I think, on the show, it brought up a really interesting conversation that you were almost villainized for, like shitting on this woman for her age. And that was not what you were saying.
Absolutely. And like everything you said was absolutely right. And for me, I'm like, I can get insecure about my age too, 100%. And I have felt insecure about it. But going into The Bachelor, knowing that there's, you know, sometimes they cast 23 year olds and stuff like that.
I knew going into it where I was like, I probably am gonna be the oldest one in the house. So I was trying to think positively so that, like, I didn't get into that mindset. So I thought in ways, like I was trying, in ways when I was talking to my friend about it, I was trying to encourage myself too. Cause like hearing her talk about that, you don't think that struck a chord with me? I was like, fuck, maybe like, like, cause.
I am a year older than him. Maybe that is weird. I don't know. I started like thinking, I was like, no, no, no. Like.
we're gonna twist it. No, we're hot. We're confident. Let's just do this. And I was just having a talk with my girlfriend.
I didn't think it was gonna become a thing. I wasn't trying to do this in front of a room. Like. I would have been way more sensitive, way, more like, you know.
Yeah, you were almost like debriefing, something that clearly related to, cause. how old is she?
She's 31.
Okay, she's 31.
. And how old are you? 29.. Okay, I'm 29. Same age.
So I get what you're saying is like, you guys were the oldest in the house and you immediately saw her freaking out and getting insecure that you were like, oh, my God, like, should I be insecure? No, we're fucking beautiful. Let's go.
Let's just turn this into a positive right now. Because it's so, you know, in the house, you're so isolated and you, I can see why she was feeling those things. But I kind of wanted to like, cause. imagine if I just sat there and was like, yeah, we are, we should just like peace out right now. Us old fucks, like, let's just get the fuck out of here.
Let's just mail it in.
But I was trying to just like, and again, if she had come to me personally, the conversation would have been different. It was just in the moment with my friend. I was just like, yeah.
And so this kind of begins this feud between you and this girl, Sydney, where she like, has it out for you. She's literally saying you're like the devil.
Oh yeah, it's funny. I brought devil ears cause I knew we were going to be filming during Halloween and I wore the devil ears like, for a week straight. They cut that out. So maybe we don't talk about that. But like, I loved it.
I was like, cause. they told me, they're like, yeah, you know, she sees you as a devil.
I'm like, and in parts I was like, wait,
but what, like I was questioning myself.
Why do you think this girl had it out for you? Like you said, you barely got into drama. your whole life with women. Like, your biggest concern was like, am I going to even like Joey? Like?
will I even get along with him? What do you think if you had to pinpoint it, brought it on this season?
Yeah, so I, cause now getting to know her, outside of this, she's an amazing woman. And I honestly can say that in that moment, she really, truly thought she was going to bat for her friend.
And like, again, it's so weird to say like these, girls become our best friends, but when you're in that environment, you become very close to people, and that's how it feels, right? So I truly think that she was feeling she was going to bat for her friend. She was that ride or die friend. She wasn't going to like let anything slide with the best intentions, just wrongly guided. I don't really know why, because I, guys, when I tell you, you know, she had apologized to me there and then when we, I was like, listen, you overheard something, you took it out of context.
It wasn't meant maliciously. Next time, you know, come to me. She's like, absolutely, we cheers. The next day we had that group date where we were doing the talent show and she hugged me before the group date. And she was like, Maria, I just want to say again, I'm sorry for taking something out of context.
It wasn't shown. We never even got to talk about this. And so I thought, I was like, wow, okay, you know what? And I said to her that day, I go, listen, I'm good to hug it out and like, we're good, but just you scare me a little bit because we were so good up until the point where you're starting shit with me, where I'm like, where is this coming from? So we hugged it out, we were good.
Later on that night is when she was like, I feel bullied by you. You hugged me earlier that day. It was like, guys, when I say it was crazy, it was crazy. But again, because I know she is a good person deep down, I think that, again, in this environment, it just brought out the worst.
Well, because I was going to say like,
I didn't know. you guys were close now, which is kind of-.
We're not close, but we're good. You're good? Yeah.
Okay, because I was going to say, I thought, I didn't know if you guys were like friends, and I'm like, that's kind of crazy to go from someone being like, you're bullying me. The what we watched on TV, I was like, this girl is losing her mind on national TV. And it's like, everywhere you would go, she would turn to you and just start going after you. And it felt very targeted.
Yeah, it got to points where she would acknowledge that I can't even be in a room with Maria because I feel she's going to attack me. And there's been so many scenes of us in a room and I'm like-.
Leave me alone.
What? So I didn't understand. And to this day, her and I didn't get to really talk about what exactly it was that made her say those things about me. Because I could, like even thinking about putting myself in her head, I could never say that about someone if I knew that it was so untrue.
Well, I think what was interesting too, and I liked reading the internet during your season, because I thought that women had really interesting takes about you. Like, I remember watching and so many women were like, I feel like half of these girls in the house are having their first bi experience, because everyone is falling in love with Maria. And everyone's like, do I like her more than Joey? I think there was also a lot of jealousy. Like you exude confidence.
You like walked in every room. You looked so fucking hot. You looked insane in your outfits. You have a great personality and you just led with confidence. And I think in those environments, I can imagine, if women are seeing one woman lead with just like no doubts or fears, you're going to be like, fuck you.
I wish I was like that. And I personally felt like a lot of it was driven by jealousy, which sucks. But I think is sadly relatable. If you could go back, is there anything you would have handled differently in all of the drama?
Well, I just want to say something first. So, before going into the house, I had read something and it was like some book, and it was called, You're Just Not That. It was like, You're Not That Great, or something like that. And then just like, no, no, but wait. What a great book.
No, no. But you know what, the meaning behind it meant something to me. And it was just like acknowledging the fact that you're not that great. And like, I never, no, wait, just wait. I don't ever think of myself as like, like.
when you say like, it's weird to me, even believing when someone's like, oh, someone's jealous of you. Like. I don't look at things like that. Like. I went into this bachelor world being like, I'm not going to be the prettiest girl in the room.
I'm not going to be the best dress. I'm not going to be the most like, exciting to look at or be with. Like. I just said, I'm going to be myself. And if it works, it works.
Like. I was so self-aware going into it. So it's funny that like, people see it as like confidence and people see it as like, oh, girls are jealous of you. It's like, I genuinely went in there being like, I'm going to be supportive of everyone around, but I'm not also not going to think I'm that great.
Like, I want to like- I now love this. Now I love this message.
At first I was like, Priya, where are we going with this?
You're like, I fucking suck. I'm a piece of shit.
No, no. But like just acknowledging that, like, you know, like just knowing who you are, like. I'm not overly confident in that way where I'm like, I'm the shit. I've never thought that way about myself. I thought all the women were, especially night one, going into that house, I was like, there are so many beautiful women around me that I was like, I'm just going to be myself, have fun.
And then, if it works, it works. And it did. And like, so, when girls came after me and being like, oh, she, like, people are seeing it as like, oh, you were so confident, and that's why. I'm like, oh my God. I was like, I.
never once did I think I was the prettiest in the room. Never once did I think I was the best dress. That's why, after it aired and hearing that, like, everyone loved my outfits and like everyone thought I was so confident, I was like, damn.
I love everything you just said. And I truly believe, though, that's where it is confidence what you're talking about. And it's, I think it's enviable. And I think if anyone takes anything from this episode, it's that, it's like you deciding, I can't be what I'm not. I'm going to be myself.
I'm me. I look, how I look. I act, how I act. And like, I'm going to present as I am. And if he likes it and they like it, great.
If not, who gives a fuck? First, I do want to talk a little bit about your personal life, because I think you, you came into this bachelor world and everyone was like, who is this firecracker? Like, who is this girl? And where did she came from? Who is Maria?
Have you ever been in love before?
I've obviously, okay. Okay. I had a couple of boyfriends. I'm going to say two. Two boyfriends?
I was like, I'm going to tell you exactly the number. Yeah. I don't have that much experience.
I always, like when I'm with someone, I feel loving feelings, but like to like, when you're out of it, you kind of think back and you're like, wait, was I even in love? I don't know. I don't think so because I want to believe. when I am, I know it's going to be my person. kind of thing.
I had loving feelings for everyone that I've ever been with. Yep.
Yeah. I think that makes a lot of sense. I think that, no, I think, I think that answers it. I think you would know if you had been in love.
Right? You would think.
You would know. Okay. Trust me.
That's what I'm thinking. You would know.
Okay. What has been your longest relationship?
Oh, bitch. You're going to call me right out.
Um, literally, my, my first boyfriend was like eight months, but I'd lived with him for three. So it felt like a fucking century, but, um, okay. Maybe no, I don't know. Okay. Listen, I have never had anything long-term.
I'm a, I'm a problem.
I'm the problem.
Wait, you lived with him for three months? Yeah. Towards the end of the eight months. And then is that what ended it?
The beginning. Wait, hold on.
Wait, wait.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
You. It's been so long ago. It was like seven years ago, bitch.
You dated a guy for eight months. You lived with him for three, but how did you start living together? then? stay together, but not live together? Walk me through this.
Okay. Hold on. Okay. Let me think. It was so long ago, guys.
It was like seven years ago. We dated and hit it off right away. And he was living alone. I was living with my family. And he was like, I want to be with you all the time.
So come sleep at my house. And then it turned into. me, ended up moving, like ending up moving in with him. Does that make sense?
And then how did you move out?
He cheated on me.
Wait, and then you, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Bitch, what do you think? How did you cheat on me? Wait, but make this make sense. Eight months dating.
First three months you're living together. He then cheats. You stay? No, no, no.
Cheating happens towards the end, honey.
Okay. Okay. So then why did you move out?
It was just because he cheated on me.
Oh, okay. Okay. You got your timeline mixed up. You said you lived together in the first three months.
Okay. Wait, maybe I'm confused. Hold on, wait, let me, let me, let me backtrack.
Eight months together.
Eight months together living with him. Okay. So not, I didn't live with him right away. You're right. You caught me.
I know more about real life than you know about real life. Okay, so he cheats. How did you find out he cheated? Oh, bitch. No, tell me everything.
Oh, my God. I'm a Virgo. Do you know what Virgos are like?
No, tell me more.
I'm an FBI agent. Oh. Like, without being an FBI agent. Yeah. So, basically, so, because I was living with him, right?
At the time. Anyways, so he was in New York with his family. I'll never forget this. This is actually kind of fucked up. But it's okay, you know what?
Him and I, we laugh about this because he was like, I hope you know I knew what you did the entire time. We talked about it. Listen, it's better to just laugh it off now. But it wasn't a laughing moment at the time. But we can laugh about it now.
Anyways, so he was in New York with his dad and then he was like, yeah, so I was staying at his place. Stupid. Anyways, so I have all my friends over and I remember I was in LA and then Vegas for a wedding. I did like a week trip, and he was so, oh my God, Nick plays into this. Because he hated Nick and Nick hated him.
Fuck that guy, though, now, because he cheated on me. But it's fine. So, okay, let me get back on track. Hold on. Okay, so I had gone on that trip and he was already questioning me, being on that trip, being like, you're going there to see him, blah, blah, blah.
I'm like, bitch, I'm going to a fucking wedding. What is your issue? And we're spending a couple more nights in LA after. After Vegas. I lied.
We went to Vegas first and then we did the wedding in LA. There it is. Come on, seven years. I haven't talked about this shit ever.
It's great.
And so he was already upset with the whole trip. I get back, we're good. He goes to New York. I stay at his place and I invite my friends over. I had this weird feeling because the last couple nights in LA, he was kind of like quiet.
Like wasn't really speaking to me. I'm like, bitch, you're my boyfriend. Where the fuck? Anyways, no, not like that. I'm very sweet.
But I get what you're saying. When a boyfriend is quiet. You know, you're checking in on me.
and then, all of a sudden, you're quiet for the next couple of days.
What's going on? What the hell's going on?
So I remember being like, okay. So I kept that in my notes. I was like, okay. So this time, this time, he was kind of weird.
Sketch.
So I get to his place. I'm staying. He leaves. I go to the front desk. This is actually kind of smart.
Girls, pay attention. So I go to the front desk. I'm like, oh my God, I left for my trip. But as I was waiting for my Uber or whatever I was waiting for, I don't know what I said. I'm like, I left my purse on the couch.
So right outside of his place, there's like a communal area and there was a couch. And I was like, I left my purse there and I can't find my purse. I'm like, I need you to, like. I was sitting here between this time and this time. And I told him the times where I felt like he was being off.
So he, so the poor front desk man. And, by the way, man, I never outed you. Even though when you knew I knew what, he knew what I was doing in that moment. I'll explain, but I never outed him. Never to my ex, but now I'm outing you, but it's okay.
You're probably not even working there anymore.
So, so I, I told him, I'm like, from this time to this time, I remember I was sitting there, blah, blah, blah. I don't know where this purse went and it's like expensive purse. I need to know where it is. So he's going, he turns the fucking screen to me and he's going through the times. And I, and I told him, he's.
so, he's a little, it's fine. I told him between, I think I said from 11 PM till 3 AM. I'm like, I don't know if you have to check to see if my purse was there and if someone took it. So he's showing me, okay. And I had my girlfriend there.
I'll never forget. She fucking screwed it up. I was like game face. I was like, show me the fucking cameras. So I was looking for my purse.
All of a sudden, guys, I'll, I kid you not. 3.20, I remember the time. Three, it was like something, 3 AM, 3.20.. Don't say that. I remember the time.
That's kind of weird, but it's fine.
A fucking bitch shows up to his door. No. Three, something AM. And then I'm going like this, this is me. I'm like this.
I keep my mouth shut. My friend goes, and then he said, so. now the front desk guy sees that there's another girl, that ain't me, showing up at this time. And then, as soon as she fucking gasped, like outing me, he turns the camera. He's like, I can't be doing this.
I'm sorry. I was like, no, no, no, no, don't worry. And he, in that moment, knew that. he knew that what I was trying to do. And he knew that now he outed my boyfriend for having a girl show up at his place at 3 AM while I was gone.
But in that moment, I went, no, no fucking way. And so it gets worse. So I kept my mouth shut.
You didn't say anything.
No, of course not.
The poor front desk man.
No, I never outed him until this day. I'm so sorry, sir. But to this day, never outed him, never outed him. I go back in. You know, actually it's kind of funny.
I went for a walk. I played some music. I pretend I was like in a music video, like sad, cried. I don't know. I don't know what I did.
I did something like weird shit. But then I went back. And then, so, days later, he comes back. We're good. He throws a party, okay?
Okay. Guys, listen to this, it gets fucked. So he throws a party. Oh my God, poor guy. He's probably like gonna watch this and be like, listen, at the end of the day, don't cheat on your girlfriend, because one day she's gonna live to tell the tale.
She's gonna live to tell the fucking tale. So don't cheat on your girlfriend. Anyways, so he throws a party, family, friends. And remember, I saw that bitch. I saw her.
Oh, you're gonna wait for the twist at the end. So I saw her. So I knew how she looked. He throws a party, family, and friends at his restaurant. He's selling a restaurant.
Oops, cut that out, because that'll be very obvious. Okay, let's be real. I only had one fucking ex and everyone knows. It's fine, but cut it out, maybe. I don't know.
Just keep it in, do whatever you want.
So he throws a party, family, and friends. There's a separate table of like randoms that I don't know. Who shows up? She does, but I keep my mouth shut. I see him go over to her, hug her, kiss her.
So I go, perfect, that's my in. So he comes back. I'm like, who's that girl that you kissed on the cheek? Like, who's that? He's like, oh, she's just a friend.
Like, da, da, da, I was just saying hi. I'm like, okay, that was a little like, a little much to say hi to a friend, right? So I'm watching her, watching her. So later on that night, I was like, fuck it, I'm done. I'm done, I'm so out.
Like, the fact that he's now bringing this girl around me.
That's the most fucked up part. Casually. And how long had you waited? Like, how long is this between you? A week.
A week, you saw the video footage.
and now you're at the party. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It wasn't long. I just didn't know how I was gonna like do it, but I was out at the point.
No, but that's like, that's mentally fucked to put your fucking mistress in the same room with your girl.
I actually have more tea.
Oh, my God, it just keeps flowing.
Oh shit. So basically, because when he was showing me the cameras, I saw a bunch of guys go in, first, all his friends. And then she showed up like hours later at like 3 a.m. But they were like, I didn't see the friends leave. So I was in my head, I was like, okay, maybe this might not be what I think it is.
And like, he's already thinking, I'm seeing Nick. And now, so there was so many things where I was like, okay, I can't overthink, because if you're looking at it just based on like what you, like, how it looks, I want to know proof. But anyways, but cut that out. No, make him look bad, it's fine.
But I get, okay, but. I was in my head, I was kind of like, fuck, maybe not. You're rationalizing, which I get.
I was rationalizing when I shouldn't have.
You were telling him, I'm not cheating on you with Nick. I'm not seeing Nick. I'm literally going to a wedding. But he's like, I know you have a past with him, blah, blah, blah. Then he starts acting sketchy.
And in your mind, you're like, is he making this decision because he thinks I was being shady with Nick when I wasn't. And then, all of a sudden, you see her at 3 a.m. And then your brain rationalizes, even though you, goddamn, know well what he was doing. Yeah, what girl's showing up at 3 a.m. by herself?
Maybe she's there for the after party. Oh, we know what the after party was. Right, yeah.
Okay, so.
His pee-pee.
His pee-pee and her fucking punani. Yeah, 100%. Anyways, so I saw her there. And again, I didn't say anything, whatever. And then we got back to the house.
And I'm like, who's that girl? And he was just gonna be like, she was a friend. She's a friend. I'm like, so then why? And I laid it all out there.
I was like, why did she show up at your house at this time, this date, da-da-da-da, in a red dress, da-da-da-da. I was like saying it all. And he, to this day, to this day, will say nothing ever happened. Wanna hear some funny shit?
Please.
So, as a Virgo, right, we're very thorough. So I need to get to the nitty gritty. I need to know. I was never gonna get my answer from him, you know? So I, okay, so I dance, okay?
I take heel classes and I do all that. So I met a girlfriend there and she was going out one night and she texted me. She's like, come meet me. I go, who you out with? She sends me a photo.
She's with that girl. No. So I go, perfect. Oh, just wait. So I'm like, perfect, I'm gonna meet this girl.
But again, I wasn't gonna go meet her with the intentions to be confrontational. I was just going to see who this girl is. I wanna meet you. I wanna look you dead in the eyes. You know me, I don't know you.
You don't know that. I know you, but I know you. Anyways, we hit it off. Love her. Love her.
Sweetest fucking girl ever. So nice.
That makes it all so much worse. You're like, fuck.
Yeah, she was great.
And did she know you were dating him?
Well, I mean, do you have an Instagram? It was very, fairly obvious. There was no excuse on her end. But at the end of the day, I'll never blame the girl. He owed something to me.
And you never know what they say in the moment. Like, oh, we're on a break.
Yeah. Oh, she's, you know what I mean? Oh, to this day, I am not upset with her. Oh, actually, I'm great friends with her. Oh.
But do you know what I mean? I always think about when women are like, oh my God, my husband cheated and fuck this woman. And I'm like, I swear to God, when a man takes off his pants and he's hard and he's staring at a woman, and the woman's like, wait, don't you have a wife? Or don't you have a girlfriend? They're like, she just got run over by a bus.
She's dead. We buried her last week.
Yep, she beats me at night.
Where she beats me. It's the whole thing. They will say whatever they, when they look down and they look up, they're like, whatever I can do to get inside. Absolutely. So we can't blame the women.
Yep, yep. Okay, so you're dancing. So we're friends. We've become friends at night. And then to the point where we're like, we're like hanging out and we're us three hanging out.
To the point where I even, okay, this is actually psychotic.
Yeah, go ahead, go ahead. It's call her daddy. Nothing is that crazy.
Okay, so one night we were all out and I was a little drunk and I'm like, I need to see if this girl's a good kisser. Only because I was like, I want to see.
I'm obsessed with you. I was like, no, I want to know what the fuck she has that I don't, that like this all happened. So I made out with her one night. But to this day, like we were totally, it was all jokes, whatever. It's fine.
I love women. I love men. I love men more, but it's fine. It's fine. I just did it for my own sanity.
Again, Virgos, we're fucked.
You wanted to understand what you were missing.
Right, I wanted to know what he was dealing with. If I had anything like, I don't know. I don't know what the hell. I just did it because I need to do it. She knows all this now.
Okay, okay. So then, so we became friends, like really good friends. Like we're all good, whatever. And one night she calls me. Okay, guys, listen to this.
And mind you, I had broken up with him. I said what I said to him. He denied it. He doesn't know now that I'm like having a friendship with this girl. Okay.
She calls me. She's like, Maria, I need to see you. I'm like, yeah, come over. She comes over. She starts to cry.
She's like, I have to be honest about something. She's like, Maria, I love you. You're such a good person. I just, I feel like I need to be honest about something. I go, let me stop you right there.
I knew this entire time. It was like a whole, like. this could be a movie. This could be a movie. And this could be the whole episode.
Oh, my God. I know, right? Anyways, no, just long story short, I just basically said to her, I'm like, listen, I met you with intention to see who you were as a person. I loved you that night. You were so fun, so sweet.
At the end of the day, I didn't hold anything against you because my ex, he was supposed to respect me and like, not do that shit to me.
Joey.
Oh, back to Joey? Back to Joey. Joey, the bachelor.
So you had never brought a guy home in your life. Is this real?
That became, okay, here's the thing. I think we were, it's like the semantics of it. It's like, yes, have men met my dad? and, like my parents? Yes.
Like my ex, met my parents, but have I ever brought them into my home, where my family met, like, no. But like, have they met my parents and the people that matter? Yeah, sure. Did I introduce them to my brothers? No, like the entire family, no.
But my parents, yes. And like my friends, absolutely always. But like the idea of just like, it was just, yeah, I didn't bring them home. But it doesn't mean that they weren't like, acquainted with my parents and the people that matter to me. It just like, it was the idea of just like, it's the first guy that I'm gonna introduce to everyone all at once.
Got it.
That make sense?
Yes, completely. Okay. Do you think you and Joey would have actually made it in the real world?
It would have been great as friends. Like we were so like funny together, where we like liked the same movies, like had the same banter. But, and we obviously liked to like, we liked each other, but I don't, I, you know what, I don't know. I don't know. I think him and Kelsey make such a good match because he was always one to always kind of need reassurance.
Does that mean to say? It's not mean to say, because that's what he was very vocal about on the season. And I think that like, Kelsey's the kind of woman that gives it to him, but like also is very confident and gets it too from him. Like, I don't know, they work so perfectly together. I don't know how to explain it, but I've never seen two people so into each other.
It just worked. I don't know if I could have given him what exactly what he wanted all the time. And so I don't know, but I think that we were great friends.
Yeah. What's something that a guy could do? that would immediately give you the ick?
Ooh, dance. Oh shit. I don't, you know, here's the thing. I don't mind, you know, you know, have you ever seen those guys who, like, start breaking out into dance, but they're so bad, but they think they're so good.
When are they breaking out into dance? Like, give me a call back.
That's the problem, they do. No, wait, like where? Bitch, anywhere there's a fucking tune. I don't know. Here's the thing.
Here's the thing. Like, but here's the thing. This is where the difference lies. When they're dancing, but being silly and like just owning that they're bad, but there's some that are so bad, but they think they're good. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's where I get the ick. The full ick. That's where I'm like, oh my God, muddle on. You're not it.
No, that's, that makes sense. Okay. What's the craziest thing an ex has ever done to you?
Date 32 women at the same time.
Bachelor.
Wait, I thought you, oh my God. I didn't catch that. at first, I was like.
Yeah, this happened more than once in my life. No, just the bachelor. Fuck, I literally did. Okay.
Oh, my God, yeah. Can we talk about that? How did you deal with the jealousy?
Okay, so here's the thing. And I'm gonna be very, very honest with you. In that moment,
should I say it?
You should always say whatever comes to your brain, sweetie.
I'm on a roll tonight.
It's not one o'clock in the afternoon.
I'm gonna be honest about something. I know, tonight, whatever, today. So I'm gonna be honest with something. So Jen and I.
Okay.
Jen and I, so Jen kissed him on the group date.
Okay.
I went up to her because I, just, like you, know when you're very self-aware, like you know your place and things. And I just knew Joey and I were never gonna be end game. Yes, could I have made it further? Sure, 100%, like we had that connection. I just didn't think I was gonna be end game and he was gonna be end game for me.
And so I told Jen that day that I was gonna use that as an excuse to leave Joey.
Use what? That she kissed him?
That's, this is tea, this is tea, bitch.
Wait, walk me through what you're talking about.
So there's a scene where Jen kisses Joey, and that's where I'm. like, Jen kissed Joey? I am disgusted. But I, you know, I was very close to her and I just felt like I needed a way out. And it wasn't, it had nothing to do with him.
Joey is great, like Joey is actually such a catch, and that's why I'm so happy. Like I think finding happiness was like knowing that he's happy with someone that loves him so much. And that, I'm so happy for him. I just knew it was never gonna be me. And so I was like, I need a way out.
And so I used Jen kissing him in that moment that pissed me off as an excuse to leave.
Okay, can I say what I'm getting from that? As I think that now, with reality television, there's in a beautiful way, there's so much more that people understand that these environments are so fucking heightened. and there's, you're in this bubble and you are feeling feelings that maybe you wouldn't feel on the outside world, or maybe you are feeling feelings, but they're heightened because of, and so I can imagine that the moment you started to realize like maybe I'm actually not end game and maybe we're better as friends, and maybe there's still doubts in your head if you're right or wrong. Then you see him the next day and you're like, oh, but he's so cute. And like, and then there's also-.
And when he fights for you to stay, you're kind of like, okay, shit, maybe I'm like misguided. I need to be in this. And that's kind of how I felt during Hometowns. I was like, he fought for me so hard, whether they showed the entirety of that, and that's fair. But in that moment, he did fight for me to stay.
And so when it came to Hometowns, I'm like, okay, I'm dropping my walls. I'm giving this my all. But like that moment in Jasper, when I was trying to leave, it was a little bit of a, I was just trying to give him a way out.
Because, I'm going to be honest, now that you're saying it, it makes more sense. Because, again, to context, if people didn't watch that episode, you're sitting on the couch with him. You're basically saying like, I can't do this anymore. I am jealous. I'm seeing you kiss other women.
Like I can't handle it.
I knew what I signed up for. Yes.
And I think you could tell, though there was something else going on. Because you were being kind of sporadic, of like, you're walking back and forth. You're like, I can't do this, Joey. And you could tell like, that wasn't the real reason. And you could tell he was so confused.
Well, it's good that you could tell that. I could tell, but I'm also like- A lot of people were speculating and I was like, guys.
But I feel like that's what my job is to do, is just like read people sitting across from me. And I-.
And you do a really fucking good job.
Thank you. But on TV, I was immediately like, this is not the whole story. So you knew kind of in that moment, maybe it's time for me to go. And then he fought for you, which maybe you're saying we didn't see the whole extent to which he fought.
Yeah, you didn't, you didn't.
And then we get to hometowns and then that was kind of-.
Because I was like, I don't want to say I was like forced to believe, but I mean, you want to believe someone's actions and like how hard he fought for me that night, where I was like, okay, you know what? I need to get my head in the game. Like, I do feel good, great things about him. I think he's great and I am in it. But I didn't know where he was at.
And there was like, there was some sort of disconnect. But when he fought for me so hard, I was like, okay, this is like something that could be real. And Maria, like stop fucking this up. And so at hometowns, where I fully dropped my walls and then I got sent home. And I was like, okay.
Okay. This is why I protect myself. Yeah. So I'm like, and that's what I've kind of learned. Like I've become accustomed to, like being disappointed by men.
And this has nothing to do with Joey. I don't, when I talk like this, it has nothing to do with Joey. Cause he was just doing his part in the show. And like, he had more stronger feelings for other women, and that's fine. But I just feel like when I turn to like protecting myself, where I'm like almost self-sabotaging, I feel like it's like self-protection.
Got it. Cause, aside from Joey, have you ever been in a situation where you told someone you loved them and they didn't say it back?
More, like they come on strong in the beginning and like they're like all in and I push them away. And then when it gets to the point where they're like, I can't, okay. You know what? You keep pushing me away. I'm actually gonna go.
And then when they actually go, I'm like, wait, I didn't mean that. I was just joking. Get your ass over here. And they're like, I don't know if I can, they don't believe me anymore. And I, but then in the end, like I said, something happens where I'm like, there's a reason why I was pushing them away in the beginning.
Right. Because they do something where I'm like, they weren't even, I don't know if I even believe them to begin with, but there's been times where, like, they come on strong and it's like, we're never there. at the same time. I'll say that.
I think that's a. naturally, you will get to a point where I-.
I don't believe that it's gonna happen at the same time where I'm not gonna do that in the beginning.
What you're doing, Maria, is you're testing them to see in your brain, you think pushing them away. I'll see if they stay, if they stay, but what you're gonna eventually stop doing because that's not healthy, is you'll realize, oh, you're pushing them away. And they're like, okay, I'll leave. Like. you can only push so much someone away to the point where they're like, okay, you're, and imagine if you just didn't.
Oh, I had an epiphany recently. I'm not joking. Like a whole, like. I'm like a whole different person. when now, like when I'm gonna open up to someone and like I feel it initially and that initial attraction to me is so hard to come by.
Like, I don't just have it for anyone, but when I do, I'm not playing those games. Like. I've learned now the hard way. And so for me, I'm so open to just letting myself be happy for the first time, where I've realized this is what I want.
Shit has happened in the past, but I grow from it every time.
Totally, but I will say, cause I wanna make sure, you know, like I'm not judging you. Literally until Matt, like that was my game. I would be like, oh my God, I'm gonna make sure he really fucking likes me by giving him, never giving him anything. They go so hard. And it definitely doesn't mean to your ego.
You're like, oh my God, like it keeps coming back. I'm like, holy shit. Like you love me. Yeah, but it's not good.
And then, when they turn around, you're like, we get back here. What are you doing? And it's like, bitch, you have been literally destroying me for the past couple of months. I've been trying everything. I sent you flowers.
I'm so sweet. I take you to dinners and you give me nothing. And now, when I leave, now, you want me? Fuck you.
Yeah, it's a very immature, you know, like I'm done with that song and dance. Like I'm really over it. And so I think it needed to happen for the last time for me to be like, okay, wake your shit up, because you are capable of so much. And like, I know what I bring to the table and like what I can offer someone. So doing that kind of game, it's just, it's not cutting it anymore.
And I don't even wanna do that anymore, because it hurts me to hurt someone else.
Well, I think what was positive to see is like, I feel like we like watched you grow on The Bachelor.
Oh, absolutely.
Like when you were like, fuck, maybe I do have to let my walls down. Like, cause. Joey kept being like, do you like me? I know. Hello.
And you're like, I don't know. Like we'll see tomorrow. And it was like, it was so classic what you're describing. And I think it's so relatable, because I think it's like this want to not be vulnerable and you want to make sure they like you before you're vulnerable with them. But for you to actually know if you guys like each other, you have to be vulnerable in the fucking first place.
So you can't be like walls up the whole time. And I think that like, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong. Like, I feel like you left The Bachelor in a better position for your love life. Cause you're like, I now know what I'm gonna move forward and what I'm gonna do when I meet someone that I'm actually attracted to. I'm not gonna make them think I hate them.
I know. I know. I have to let them know. I know a hundred percent. And like being on The Bachelor, it showed my friends and family that I am a lot more emotional than they've ever seen me.
That was the probably the hardest thing, watching it back was having my friends and family see how much I cried. Cause I don't cry. That's just not my thing. I am not that girl. And so they couldn't even believe it.
They're like, holy shit. Like, but it was a lot more than just crying over a guy. It was like, I was being, I felt like I was at war at times where it was like just so many things accumulate into one, where I was like, okay, I'm so drained, but I did. It opened me up and it allowed me to know that it's okay to be vulnerable and to let my feelings out. And it's better sooner than later, because a guy that likes you and wants something with you should know how you feel, because that's the only way your guys are gonna move forward.
And I totally get it now.
Everything you're saying, I think, led to this perfect, obvious next step, which is we need to talk about The Bachelorette.
Oh, yes.
Because we watch you almost as like your character arc is like you come in and you're like, your walls are up and you're kind of falling for this guy, but you don't know if you can, because you don't know if he likes you. And then you let him in and then you get heartbroken, but you learn so much. And like, we're all rooting for you. I felt like America was rooting for you and America was absolutely devastated when you were not announced as The Bachelorette.
Yeah.
Were you offered the role as Bachelorette?
No.
Were you offered the role as Bachelorette?
Obviously, I have been trying my hardest to stay silent about this, but I think that, moving forward and if I'm going to be in this world, like, I, have to be honest, especially with the people who have supported me. And the answer is yes. Yeah, I was offered the role. I mean, it was mine until I said it wasn't. And yeah, it became very overwhelming, to the point where I had to decline.
So thank you for sharing.
Yeah.
How far along were you in the process of like becoming The Bachelorette until you pulled out?
Yeah, well, to the point where I was doing fittings, like it was set in stone. I was in it. Yeah. Again, like, you know, bringing up Jen and all of this, like I, you know, she was one of my closest girls in the house and she was always verbalizing how badly she wanted this. And when everyone around me was so supportive of me being in this position and everyone wanted this for me, I kind of took a second.
I'm like, why am I not happy? Why am I not excited about this? And it took me like realizing that it's just not my time where I was. like, guys, respectfully, I need to decline. I need to take a step back.
I was not in the right head space for this, especially knowing that, like, because I know the extensive process it was to be on the show, right? So having a bunch of guys do the exact same thing and they're there for me, I didn't want to waste anyone's time. And honestly, like, yeah, it was hard for me to kind of jump right back into it, honestly.
I mean, I think I can be honest.
Like. Yeah.
You were about to come on the show and we were gonna announce you as The Bachelorette. Yeah. What, like a month ago?
Yep.
And that, I remember. I was gonna have you on on like a Monday and on like Sunday, I get the call, like Maria went back to Toronto.
Yeah.
What were those like next few days, like once you turned it down?
Yeah, no, I,
the one thing about having such a great like production behind you and like my producers were so supportive of me and like just being open and honest, of where I was mentally and how I felt about everything, you know, like everyone was so excited and I know what the season could have been like and it would have been great. I just was not ready. And, you know, coming back home, I just, when I say that I just wanted to come back home, back to reality and just take time off from all of this, like I meant it and I think people saw that and recognized that I wasn't posting as much and like I was not speaking on things, because as much as like, I wanted my time off, but I also wanted Jen to have her moment and like she is the most perfect bachelorette in my eyes. If, like, I couldn't think of anyone better to do this and she was so ready for it and that was enough for me to kind of say, yeah, this is, it's not my time. It was, it was a hard time because everyone, again, everyone, was so wanting this for me, but I, yeah, I just, I just needed to be home with my family and friends and take that time off, to be honest.
When you saw how devastated America was, like? how did it make you feel?
Yeah, I mean, a part of me obviously was so grateful and like I, like when people even come up to me and ask for a photo or talk to me and like love me off, I'm like, I'm in awe of you. Like, I don't deserve this. I'm just so appreciative of it and like that was one thing that kind of kept me going in this process, because I was like, I want to do this for them. You know, like I want to do this for the people that love and support me, but at the same time, like that's not doing it for the right reasons.
Okay, but when you say you, it wasn't your time and you weren't ready.
Yeah.
You're saying you weren't.
Yeah.
Why? Like? I need to understand a little bit more, like why, why did you turn it down?
Well, okay, like I, what people saw on their screens was only the half of what I kind of went through in the house. Like, yes, did I have time off before it aired? Yes, but again, everything was so like, I was so anxious throughout the whole thing, and I get it. It would have been my own show. It would have been me kind of having, like, more control over things, but again, like it's so isolating being in there and I would have had to give up my phone.
Like, not my freedom, but, you know, like having to be alone in that. And I don't, I just wasn't, I wasn't comfortable. I wasn't just mentally prepared for it.
I think that's, I appreciate you sharing that, because again, I think it's like, so many of the women from this season would have been amazing bachelorettes.
Oh, so many, yeah. And- Jen, though, is the perfect pick.
She's gonna be- No question. She's gonna be great and you would have been great and it would have been completely different seasons, but I appreciate you saying, and I think I wish, I think what you're doing, more people should take note of is like, you're not running for the clout and the fame. Like there was an obvious answer of like, you would be on TV for another how many episodes, and everyone would see your face and you'd be on posters and billboards. and you prioritize it. You were like, I literally am so fucking anxious and I don't feel good.
And I'm gonna prioritize that over getting my bag to the right.
100%, 100%. Like. that never interested me to begin with, going on the show. And I wasn't ready to milk my 15 minutes. Like I, when I, like.
I remember Wells, he was like, I don't know, he did the bartending on, yeah, so he went out on a podcast and he was saying that I had all these expectations, that I had all these, I don't know, whatever the hell- Like requirements and asks. Yes, and that one was. I wanted my phone the entire time and I wanted my friend to be a producer. And it's like, like. I wanted so badly to shut that shit down.
But again, I just didn't think it was my time and right place. But like, and he was like, oh, everyone's gonna forget about her and Daisy. Like, this is gonna be their biggest regret. Forget about me. Like I am.
so, at the end of the day, I have to do what's best for me. And if that's what, like, it was so disheartening to hear someone who knows this process, knows what they put us through. Like, not what they put us through, but like knows like how, like intense it is. And like you have to be fully committed. Like knows like how mentally draining and like physically draining this could be to like say something like that.
It's like-.
Literally shut the fuck up.
Like you don't know me. You don't know me. And like, I'm a very respectful person. So that went so against my character and I want so badly to speak on that, because it's so not true. Like everyone knows, you get your phone taken away, and that's it.
Right.
Well, it's also just like so tacky. It's like, he's been in this franchise for so long. It's like, did you ask Maria if those were her requests? Right. Did you hear it through the grapevine?
Because if those weren't your requests- Broken telephone.
Right.
Like don't speak on shit that you don't know about, and also not to be a dick. But it seems like, I'm sure Wells would have loved to be The Bachelor back in his day. That's what I'm saying.
But that's what I'm saying. But here's the thing, you know, it's kind of like contradicting for you to say, I'm going to be forgotten because I'm not Bachelor. But then where do you stand? You were never Bachelor. Right.
So are you forgotten? Well, I don't know you, so you're forgotten in my head, but like, no, that's kind of mean. Don't say that. I'm sorry, Wells. Come make me a drink, babe.
But at the end of the day, I'm just saying like, I would never say that about someone else.
No, it's a great point.
I support whatever anyone else wants to do. At the end of the day, what I wanted people to understand why I took my break was like, they would say, okay, you know, it was fairly obvious. Everyone wanted me as Bachelorette. Obviously, I was going to be asked. I think that was obvious.
So if I didn't do it, there had to be a reason. It had to be because of me and because I had to take a step back. So for him to say it was because of this and the other thing, like, Wells.
Wells.
That's all I got to say. I just didn't like it. I was like, just talk to me and you know what? Ask me and I would tell you, you know, this is not, but like, I don't disrespect, especially the team that was there for me, who were leaving their families for me to like be there by my side. Like, I respect them so fricking much and it broke my heart because I knew how badly everyone, again, everyone.
Everyone wanted it. No, I agree with you on the Wells thing. I think it's just like a dumb comment made by someone who, like, clearly would have, he's speaking from what he would have done, and we're like, we know. Wells. You would have loved to be Bachelor back in the day, but I don't think he thinks he's irrelevant.
So, like, why do you have to be irrelevant if you don't make the Bachelorette?
Why can't we all grow in different ways? Totally. We have other things that we would like to do. And if it means me going back to reality, going back to my day-to-day, what does that have to do with you? And don't talk negative about it.
Like, it's okay. This, I understand, I was on a reality show, but it was real life to me too. Like, if I want to go back home and just go back to me, I am able to do that and I wanted to do it and I did it. Done.
Okay, now that we're not going to see you on the show, we're not going to get to see you. date 32 men.
No.
What is going on in your dating life? Are you single?
I'm so single. Okay. I'm so single.
Are we going to see you in Bachelor in Paradise?
No Paradise, no. No Paradise. No.
Okay, so how are you approaching your dating life right now?
You know, I just want to meet someone organically. Is that the word? Yeah. Like old school, you know? I just want someone to like, come up to me while I'm grocery shopping or at a bookstore, even though I don't read.
I'll just be there one day. Like, I just want to meet someone the way like, I don't know, back in the day, no social media. I know my DMs are open.
Tell me.
Nothing.
Who have you gotten DMs from? Nothing, no one. Shut that, fuck up. Shut up. Look at that.
I can already tell when you're lying to me, your jaw just said, no one.
No, I swear.
Who's in there?
Bitch, are you hooking me up?
Who's in there?
Do you want to look at my DMs?
Give me my phone. Have you not gotten a celebrity DM yet?
From who? Who? Who? Tell me.
Who has messaged you from-.
Who's DM'd you? Who's DM'd you? I'm married, shut up. I know, sorry.
Who have you gotten DMs from? Come on.
Like, just Bachelor Nation.
Oh, give us one. Come on.
No way. The Golden Bachelorettes. What?
I didn't even say the Golden Bachelor. I'm like, fuck you.
No, no. Fuck. No, the Golden Bachelorettes. Like, people who support me. You know what?
What man with a penis?
It has always been, no, none. Bitch, can you hook me up? No, I could. Ivan Peters, if you're watching this, I saw you at Coachella and I did not like that, but I'm open.
Wait, the guy that played Dahmer?
Yeah. He don't say that. He was in so many other fucking things. Sorry. You're gonna let people know that I'm interested in fucking Dahmer?
Not Dahmer.
Are you into like kinky shit like that in the bedroom?
No, no, no, no, no. But I like horror, right? So he's like a horror icon of our generation. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. He's so hot.
Okay, so no guys in your DMs, except for Bachelor Nation.
No, can you check guys in my DM?
Maybe.
I don't want that, though.
You wanna meet someone at stagecoach this weekend. You're dancing in the moonlight. Post Malone is singing. You're like, oh, and then someone grabs your arm.
Is he gonna grab my arm? No, I don't think. Or my leg. Oh my God.
Wait a second. What? Are you that flexible?
I could be. No. I could be, guys. I'm flexible, take note.
Are you doing splits on the pee-pee? I...
I could be. Hey, why not?
Wait, do you.
Backflip on that shit. What? I'm joking.
Do you use your dance moves in the bedroom? No. No. No. Just your flexibility.
Just my flexibility, yes, yeah. I can throw my leg behind my head. You guys hear that? DMs are open. I'm joking, I don't want fucking DMs.
I really don't. Guys, I'm not kidding.
Who would you answer in your DMs, except for Dahmer? Who else?
Not Dahmer, man, Evan Peter.
Sorry, Evan Peter, sorry.
Oh, my God, okay. Um, who would I? I don't know. Someone who's sweet, kind,
ready for a relationship, no games. I don't know. Who do you think I should answer?
I need to think about that. I'm trying to think if Matt has any friends so we can keep it in the family.
Yeah, I like, I don't like a guy, like I used to think I wanted a guy with like a big, big, big personality. Yeah, no. But we're gonna clash.
No, they need to shut the fuck up and let us be the stars.
Yes.
I learned that soon. I was like, okay, when I started really reading on my Leo chart, I was like, oh, I can't have Leo.
Bitch, I'm rising, Leo.
Yeah, there we go.
What are you, rising, what?
I think there could be a Virgo in there, or I'm just saying that to make you excited.
Wait, so what's your boyfriend, husband, hubby?
He's an Aries and it works perfectly. It works perfectly because-.
It does, fire and fire.
Yeah, it's great. But he's like, he's great. I just run the house and then he's great.
Well, he's great, because he got you.
Because he's like dominant, but not in the way that, like I, actually have the last word.
But that's what I'm saying. That's what I want. I want a man, but who lets me have, you're fucking, you get it.
Like have your independence and like don't be terrified of your success. And like when you're in a room, he's like, go, do your thing, babe.
Yes, because they know, at the end of the day, you're gonna make them feel like the biggest man in that fucking room.
Yes, yes, boom. Okay, we're gonna play a game. Since you're now dating, I'm gonna give you a scenario.
Am I dating? Okay, go.
Okay, well, you're dating. Well, you're trying to, okay. I'm gonna give you a scenario that could happen on a-. I'm not trying that hard. Okay, what?
Sorry, I'm like, I'm not trying that hard.
I'm gonna give you a scenario, okay? Yeah. That could happen on a first couple dates with someone, and you're gonna tell me what you would do.
Go ahead.
He subtly flexes how much money he makes.
Oh, I pay the bill and leave. Make him feel low. Take his balls and come right off. Take your money and go impress some other bitch. Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Wait, what? No, I love it.
No, I love it.
This is great.
Is there any scenario where it would be hot if someone's flexing about their money?
No, never. Absolutely never. And you know what the richest people know? Not to say that I know all the richest people, but they know they don't want it that way. And the people that do, don't actually have it.
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