#2068 - Cameron Hanes
2023-11-25 02:38:32
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You know, juiced up with stem cells, you feel any different?
Are we live yet? Yeah, we're live. Oh, we are. Yeah, oh yeah. I feel I don't know. You said. I can't do anything for a few days, though.
Yeah, you really should be taking time off. Like we were talking about how Shane Dorian went down to Tijuana and he got like this full body stem cell treatment. They injected his discs and they did all this jazz. They told him don't do anything for eight weeks.
Yeah.
You like, walk, but, you know, just let it heal, let it heal.
Eight weeks.
I know it's hard.
Hey, could I get a little more volume?
Oh, you can turn it right there. Oh, wait on that little thing. We're like a radio station now. We got like, real equipment.
You got a cough button, too? Oh, there we go, you have to cough. See, pretty cool.
That's pretty. See, I don't have this. see, I'm bare bones. I'm like, you know, Mattel version podcast, you're like the hype.
You were way ahead of me. When I started, I started with a webcam.
Yeah.
Yeah, well.
I know, but you're the godfather.
You're the OG, I'm definitely not. No. Adam Curry's the godfather, he's the podfather. He was doing it, like, five years before me.
At least, hmm, at least five years before me.
Well, you caught up.
Yeah, I caught up. But he does it like much more underground, like he stays, he's got everything, how does he have his setup? Everything is like, subscription based.
I don't think he even has advertisers.
They have it tied into crypto, so everything's bits, you can tip with bits and stuff. Yeah, it's distributed.
But he's a super nerd, he's into all that crypto shit. I just it's too much for me.
I like bow hunting. Yeah, that's all I'm into.
I don't have time for this crypto stuff, right? I believe in it, I think it holds promise. Every now and then, one of those FTX things happens where everybody loses billions.
And I'm like, Yeah, yes, exactly. See, that's why I didn't get involved in any of that shit.
Right, there's a few of those companies that try to get me involved in sponsors and stuff like that and do ads. And I was like, What are you doing? What is this?
Coins and also those. What about those card things?
Oh, you mean an NFT?
Yeah.
Yeah, see, that is not real. I guess. It's sort of an NFT, but that's really just an art gift from this guy. Beeple and Beeple. Who is this really cool artist who puts up a new piece of art every day, 365 days a year? He does stuff like that?
And it's all. Have you ever seen his stuff?
I think, maybe.
Pull up Beeple's Instagram, it's wild, wild shit.
Yeah, I want to look.
But he actually has a gallery, and in his gallery he has things like this. But enormous ones, like big giant things that he's made and all these, it's really cool stuff. So that's a different kind of an NFT.
Yeah, that's pretty sick.
His NFTs are you're getting digital, actual digital art. And it actually comes like this thing that he sent us. It's like it moves, it's got like a little QR code, you can scan that.
It's pretty cool.
Yeah, it's a different sort of experience, but for the most part, I think the NFT shit, that's Sam Bank from Freedom Jail, whack it off to pictures of his ex. That's him.
Put that picture up.
That's his cell, he's got the other guy on the wall with his eyes crossed out. That's the guy that ratted him out an eye heart.
See, there's a lot.
That's his ex-girlfriend.
See his lotion there, Lubriderm.
Hilarious.
That is funny, hilarious. He's a super cool guy too. We had him in, he was a lot of fun.
So that I understand that is digital art, I understand that, but there's a lot of the NFTs, like the Bored Ape Yacht club. I was like, What is it?
Yeah, for a while there, it seemed like everybody was making, like, millions. I'm like, So what do I got to do here? And so can I make a hunting photo and NFT and just make a bunch of money?
Or how does this work? I think a lot of people thought that at first, and maybe if you hopped on the bandwagon at the very beginning before, everybody kind of woke up. There's no there there, right?
So like, here's the thing, like, people are like, Well, it's yours and you own it. Yeah, but I could take a screenshot of it and I have it on my phone. And where are you going to look at it other than your phone? Like, I literally have what someone paid a million dollars for.
If I wanted to get a screenshot of it, I could get that and then it's on my phone. It's not even a different resolution, like, what? Oh, but it's not your crypto wallet?
Okay, I guess you win.
I love this argument, it's fun, but like, that's the same. Like you have a screenshot of the Mona Lisa on your phone, you don't own the Mona Lisa.
No, no, no, no, no. It's very different because the Mona Lisa is a physical painting made by a master artist that's in a frame. And you could look at it and you could ponder the thought behind it, the artistic expression, the technique and brush strokes, and painting.
This guy from hundreds and hundreds of years ago created this masterpiece that endures today.
Could you do that on your phone, too? I mean, if you'd like.
Look, if you had a copy of the Mona Lisa and you like a print and you put that on your wall, I could. I mean, that still has merit. That's still a piece of art, but like the Bored Ape Yacht Club, you could pull up one of them Bored apes.
Well, with this, with the Salvatore Monday, it would solve a lot of the problem with this. Because you would have known that. Leonardo made it, because when it was first printed, and he made it for sale. Ideally, 500 years ago, it would have been on the blockchain and like, the history of that would have been known. And there was only one of them made, and all of that.
If it was an NFT 500 years ago.
I'm saying, like, if it was equivalent to what NFTs are now, you would have this. The problem that existed with that whole documentary on like, Who made it? was it repainted? and all that kind of stuff would never have been. that whole thing would have never existed.
OK, but this, that's not the best example. I see what you're saying.
It's an example, though.
Yeah, this is a way more complicated story. Do you know about that thing? Go back to that image again, please. That thing is wild, because that is supposedly a lost Leonardo Da Vinci, supposedly.
But the problem is, there's a whole documentary on it, is it called The Lost Leonardo? Is that the documentary?
Sounds right, I mean, the picture is called Salvatore Mundi.
Right, what is the documentary about? But that painting was the most expensive painting I believe ever sold, or one of the most expensive. And they auctioned it at Christie's and it sold for $450 million. Yeah.
Now here's the problem with it. Most of that painting has been recreated, most of that painting has been touched up by a modern artist. It's this woman and they show her doing it over. Like, I think it was over a decade of working just on this one, you know, like 36 by 24, or whatever the size painting is.
It's not a really big painting. This lady worked on this one painting, so she influenced it, not just influenced it. Most of the work is her work.
Like, show the original. This is what happened. Someone found it somewhere at some sale and they bought it for, like, really cheap. And then as they're starting to go over this, it's all documented in this lost Leonardo movie. As they're starting to go over it, they start thinking, like, I think this is Leonardo da Vinci's work.
And so then it sells for quite a bit more. But then they have it brought to this lady who's an art restorer, and she retouches it. But there's a lot of problems with it, and some of the problems are that it seems like it was multiple times it was painted over.
And it seems like more than one artist painted it, and what they had originally versus what it is now looks very different.
I'm trying to find the correct example that you're describing, but here's one example of it. This is a 1913 version of it, and then it got cleaned up in 2005..
Right, but there was a way worse version of it that they bought.
So that was two years later. Here's the restored version where they took everything off of it.
Yeah, so is that what that is like all those white stripes is the restored version.
It's a clean state.
Clean state Okay. So they had to take off the paint that was put on to clean it up after they restored it in 19. What was it?
I mean, that was found in a collection in, like, the early 1900s, I think.
That was the other one that was restored.
Like the Pencil one.
The one on the left. They were saying, like, maybe this is Leonardo, and so they cleaned it up. But then this lady goes and paints over it. So like, Look, go back back up, please go back up to that.
So that image is kind of fucked up. If you're going to buy that, how much is that worth? I mean, it's beautiful, like, look at the hand.
It's incredible. You would think, well, maybe this is Leonardo Da Vinci, but so then this lady goes over the whole thing and then show the final version.
I think it's at the bottom.
Okay, and the final version is pretty stunning.
After restorations on the right, Yeah, during restoration on the left.
It's so much more detailed than the original one. That was all fucked up. Yeah, so like, is that a Leonardo? or is it that lady who did it? It seems like it's that lady.
It's a collab.
Yeah, it's a collab, but that's not how it's being sold at. If you get the Mona Lisa, that's the fucking Mona Lisa.
And they kept it in pristine condition for all these years. This is like some weird shit. So MBS, the ruler of Saudi Arabia, owns it, and he just keeps it on a yacht.
The Mona Lisa.
No, that thing. He tried to make a deal, apparently. They talk about this in the documentary, that he wanted to put it at the Louvre in Paris, next to the original Mona. Lisa and the people in Paris were like, Yeah, we don't even know what this is. Take four of those.
Four or six if you want to be smart.
I can take your whole bottle.
Come on, we're shooting you up with stem cells, we're giving you alpha brain, you're having the full Austin experience here. Cam Ains.
Mm-hmm.
So.
Here's the two V8s. I don't know if that's why we brought it up.
Well, those are worth millions.
Yeah, well, Jamie bought these.
I have one.
Did you know the last time we mentioned his t-shirts and he made?
It was a nice little pop.
He wants to pull that up. Jamie. T-shirts which t-shirts?
Yeah, yeah.
We just did a little mention at the end of the podcast because he said he had this big spike in sales. And he's like, what the hell happened on this day? And it was like, us talking because I mentioned something about young Jamie.
The best one is the I looked into it, the rainbow.
That's a fun one. I was thinking of giving that to Grush. I didn't have it in my head in time, like he's looked into it the most.
Yeah, he's looked into it the most. So you were saying that you're on the fence, off the fence about Grush.
The story I was hearing is it's just it's a lot, I'm going to skip a lot of it. But what I was reading and what they were saying is that. One possibility that could be going on is there is an. I think we're taking in some of Graham Hancock stuff, too. If people were around on Earth 500,000 years ago, in some way, there was some split and a second set of humans continued on. And we're like in this inter-dimension space where they're both happening simultaneously.
And that's where, like, if.
He was saying this.
No, no, no, no, this is from the I'm gathering this all from, like that video. I'm adding in some of Graham Hancock stuff too, because this kid also interviewed him, Jesse Michaels on his podcast, and they're talking about some of the same stuff.
But something they said in the Grush interview on his podcast was that an idea would be that these people exist on like a split timeline from us. We had cataclysms and died and repopulated and whatnot. Now we've ended in this place in 2023. With combustion engines flying around, these people would have been in a different antigravity. Who knows what they figured out?
And they went somewhere else.
I think.
They're not even saying that this is where, like, they're not going to talk. They haven't talked about that, but I think what they're saying or getting at maybe is that they're here.
And that's why the nuclear thing is so important to them, because they're on the same planet as us. And if we blow up the planet, it goes away for centuries.
So they're here, we just don't know where they are.
And that's where the interdimension thing comes in. That's what I'm gathering out of what I've heard.
How high were you when you came up with this theory?
I don't think I'm saying it's my theory. This is what they're sort of saying, and Grush is sort of like, That's an interesting thing. You're saying. He's not confirming it with them or anything.
But it's a lot to take in, that's definitely for sure.
It's all a lot to take in. David Grush is that UFO whistleblower that testified in front of Congress?
Yeah.
It's hard to say, man, the thing about it is, I believe he's telling the truth as far as what he's experienced and the documents that he uncovered and the people that he talked to. But how do you know whether or not they're just using him as a useful idiot to just get out some silly story? Because they're covering up for the fact that there's some very advanced drone system that the United States government has, that they're trying to keep under wraps, right? It might be both.
I think it's probably both things. Well, here's the thing you're out in the woods all the time you ever see a UFO.
No.
Ever see Bigfoot, No, ever talk to a hunter that's seen a UFO, No, ever talk to a hunter that's seen bigfoot.
I talked to.
Really, the guys down at San Carlos, the Apache Reservation, they said they've seen stuff.
Okay, were they on Peyote? I don't know, because I know a lot of those Indians like to get down.
I don't think so, I mean, and it's been like multiple times.
What kind of stuff?
Like something square flying.
Oh, interesting.
Yeah.
Because that is the thing that they describe, right? It's a square with a sphere inside of it, like a black no, the opposite, yeah, a sphere with a black square inside of it.
Yeah, like a force field or something.
Yeah, I don't know anybody other than that. That's the first story I've heard from somebody who I have talked to.
Well, that kind of makes sense. That thing they do spot, that's a common one, some flying square inside a sphere, like a translucent sphere, and that's like, legitimate pilots have seen that. That's a weird one.
Right, my theory, and this is totally unfounded, without any research whatsoever.
Those are the best kind.
My theory is that they have this ability to make something move in this insane way with gravity. But they can't put a body in it, and they can't put weapons in it. It's just an object that they can get to move at insane rates of speed. That's what I think. I think the military applications of this thing have yet to be figured out. But I think they do have something that can do things that we have no knowledge of. But the United States government is probably. They probably have in their possession something that was either back engineered from something from somewhere else, or something that they developed in a completely top secret environment with the top research scientists. Probably during the wars, during World War II, and three or three Vietnam.
That's impending.
And in Iraq and Afghanistan, you think about the amount of money that gets funneled through the government.
Didn't the Pentagon, just for the sixth year in a row, fail their audit? Imagine if you failed your audit six years in a row? Boy, they'd crawl up your ass with a fucking microscope, I think. Is that what it was?
They never passed it, but yeah, it is correct that they failed six audit with number....
So there's a lot of money flowing around, is my point, and who knows how much of that money is going to these secret programs that we don't know about?
Yeah, I know.
And if they did that, and they did have the top scientists. And if I was the fucking president, and I was the chief of staff, and I was running the Pentagon. I would want the best scientists, so I'd recruit the best scientists and I'd say, Hey, this is national security. We're working on this project. It uses gravity propulsion. Shut the fuck up, don't tell anybody, but you get to work on some cool shit.
Yeah, and you get paid a lot of money.
You get paid a lot of money and you get to be a part of one of the most insane discoveries in human history. So this is what we're working on. I think that's likely, too. But then you got to go back to, like the Foo Fighters from the 1940s and the crash at Roswell. And that you also have to be open to the possibility that, like, look, there's a lot of planets out there, a lot of planets out there.
It's very possible that we're not alone.
Yeah, it seems like we would have found something by now.
If you could, go to another planet and bow hunt.
That'd be sick.
I wouldn't do it.
No.
Imagine if you'd be the first guy to eat a deer from another planet and you just fucking die instantly?
That's a good way to go.
No, it's not, it's a dumb way to go. The good way to go is to send some fucking prisoners over there, send some murderers, send some like school shooters.
Send them over there to eat a space deer.
I guess you could, yeah, test them out. Just say, either you kill this and eat it, or you die because there's no food, so good luck and then see what happens exactly. But some housekeeping real quick.
Thank you for getting me down here for the stem cells, my pleasure. Ways to well.
Shout out to ways to well.
Yeah, that's good, I think I like that, you know, I had blokes as kind of coming on, too. They offer the same thing, ways to well offers the same thing. But it seems like those type of outfits are really going to gain popularity. Because of the distrust in the medical, whatever, like your regular doctor that was telling you, Oh yeah, you got to get this vaccine, this and that, and now it's, you know, obviously there's distrust there.
So I think people are thinking, Do I need a doctor? what's a doctor for just pushing prescriptions on me? So now they can kind of take their health into their own hands, get their blood panels done, see where they are, you know, on a bunch of different markers. And that's what Ways to Well and Blokes does.
And I think a lot of people are going to be doing that instead of calling their great family doctor.
Well, a lot of family doctors, unfortunately, just don't have that knowledge base. They don't understand peptides, they'll tell you not to take things, and they don't have any knowledge of it themselves. And you talk to them and they have a potbelly, you know well, you don't need any vitamins.
You can get everything you want from a balanced diet while they're eating cheeseburgers.
Well, and they do that, you're like your markers, and they're saying, well, this is, say, with tests, they'll say, well, your testosterone is within a normal range, normal, right? Yeah.
Normal compared to another fucking normal guy, you see the normal American these days. I don't want to be anywhere near that guy, I want to be like my own category optimized.
Yeah, optimized, built for performance. You know, get your body at the highest level, not compared to the average American, right? So that's where I don't know.
Well, there's a lot of peptides that are very beneficial, and some of them they've even pulled from the market because they're beneficial. And it's one of the things they did with Thymosin. Thymosin was used during Covid, A lot of people were using it to help them recover from Covid, so they pulled it.
So they made it so you can't access Thymosin.
Because they're trying to make money off of it.
And these compounding pharmacies can make it, and they make it fairly cheaply, it's not expensive. And they're doing that with BPC-157 as well, because so many athletes use BPC-157. It's a very common one for helping heal injuries, and it works, works really well.
I know a lot of people that use it, a lot of fighters can't use it, unfortunately, but a lot of jujitsu guys use it. MMA fighters and the UFC at least.
So they test for it.
Yeah, unfortunately, I don't think they should, because I think what it does is help you heal. And I think if you're in a sport that literally most of the time you're getting smashed. Most of the time you're getting kicked and punched, and you're always dealing with injuries. Wouldn't we want to help these guys get to the finish line, like, get to the fight, because a lot of injuries. Like Gordon, Ryan was supposed to compete the beginning of December and then the end of December in jujitsu. And he just fucked his rib up, he just tore his rib.
This is a normal thing that happens with jujitsu guys, it's a normal thing that happens with UFC guys. But Gordon will have access to ways to well, and they'll give him all the best peptides. They'll figure out what's the best protocol in order to help heal that, and he'll get back on track much quicker than someone. If they were fighting in the UFC, who had no access to those things because they're being constantly tested.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't think they should test for that, you know? I think they should figure out like, what's cheating and what's just helping you heal? And let's, you know, let's not let guys take trend and fucking D ball and all this crazy shit. Yeah, let's not do that. But I don't see any problem with things like BBC 157.
That are just all it's going to do is help your body heal quicker, right?
You're in the business of breaking bodies, you're in the business of literally kicking guys legs out from under them and punch them in the stomach. Like, we should have some shit that makes you heal quicker.
Right, just be healthy. It's not gaining an advantage over another fighter.
The only advantage is you won't be injured as long, which is a very good thing that we should apply to everyone. And it's not dangerous, doesn't have horrible side effects. It's not something that's scary, it's going to fuck up your reproductive system. It doesn't do any of those things.
It just helps you heal faster. And I think these organizations, UFC and all the other ones as well, they should embrace all these different things and just stop treating it like. The problem is really, it was baseball. This is the problem, this is where everybody got it in their head that it's cheating.
It was Mark Maguire and Sammy Sosa. And when those guys were on that fucking home run competition and they were cracking them out of the park, and they both looked like superheroes.
It was awesome, it was awesome. Don't forget Barry Bonds.
Barry bonds, right, barry bonds as well.
But yeah, that was like, that was a heyday of baseball. You're trying to make people not care.
But those guys were juiced to the tits. And baseball, which is the American pastime. We associated steroids in baseball with cheating. He's a cheater. we're not cheaters, we're Americans.
But listen, if you could get a hold of any NFL player in between camp, what are the odds? what are the odds? They're not? Sportsman of the year? What year was that?
They were doing it, I think, whatever.
Why are they wearing togas?
Because they're gladiators.
But do gladiators wear togas?
I don't know.
Who wears togas, those guys?
Oh, animal house.
Yeah, I guess.
They were with John Belushi.
Yeah, look at Mark McGuire with the glass of milk and the baseball bat, that's hilarious, the size of those guns.
Going, going, gone, I'm drinking milk.
Let's see Barry Bonds, I want to see him.
Oh, Barry Bonds got super jacked.
I know he was so good, just naturally, and then he added all that muscle. Oh, look at this.
Yeah, if they could allow those guys to do the sauce. Look how skinny he was at first and then boom.
But he was so good when he was skinny.
Yeah, he was great in the beginning and then got that extra horsepower from all that. Clear the stuff they were rubbing on him.
I know.
I had that guy on, the guy from Balco, what was his name? Victor Conte? Yeah, he explained it all and how it's all done and what they did.
Very fascinating.
Yeah, cause I remember, uh, McGuire said he was taking like, Androl, or it was some supplement you could buy.
Androstenedione.
Oh, that's it, and it just skyrocketed off the shelves.
Yeah, he probably took that, too.
Yeah.
You know, I know that stuff did work. It gave you a little bump.
I couldn't tell you, I couldn't tell you what I take, that works, cause I take 30 different things, right? So he probably wasn't lying.
He's like, Yeah, I take this and here's the results, but I take a handful of, who knows what?
I take a lot more stuff now. After that Gary Brecker podcast, I started taking methylated B vitamins and all sorts of other stuff that he....
Was that a good one? I didn't listen to that one. was it good?
Oh, it was a fucking great one, that's a great one. Holy shit. He goes deep, yeah.
That's an amazing one. He changed Dana White's life. I mean, Dana White was basically on death's door and he put him on a ketogenic diet. Now Dana looks fucking 15 years younger.
He does, yeah.
He looks amazing, well, he's in this light bed, he got this red light bed every day and his face just looked better. One of the things that happens when you lose fat, and this definitely happened to me recently, you lose fat in your face, so your face starts to sink in around here.
It kind of looks like shit.
You need Botox?
No, that's not going to help because you're losing face fat. It's also collagen. You don't have as much collagen as you're older as you do when you're younger. So if you're a younger person, you have a lean face.
It doesn't look as bad as when you're an older person. You know, who said that once? William Shatner, He's like, 80 years old. He's talking about how he gains weight because it keeps the wrinkles away.
Because it keeps a fat face and you don't have as many wrinkles.
My daughter watches all these like before and after things. So it's like, I think buckle fat removal, I think buckle fat is somewhere on your face.
Buckle.
I don't know, Jamie, what's buckle fat? buckle fat? Yeah, I think it's like, what you're talking about, maybe.
Well, what I'm talking about is when you. If you're a fat person, you're not going to have a gaunt face, right? But if you're a person who loses weight, here it is buckle. Oh, b-u-c-c-a-l fat removal.
Yeah, oh so they take that out, so they have more like the high cheekbones.
Oh, I see, you know what I mean, so it's like sculpting.
Yeah, see, like that on the left there, so you're making your face sculpting right, so that's you're just doing that naturally.
You're more sculpted.
Yeah, I'm just. I lost a lot of face fat, for sure, I lost a lot of body fat, but that's all from carnivore diet. That changed everything for me.
How come has Dana ever been on the podcast? Yeah, he's been on, he has.
Yeah, he's been on.
When?
Oh, a while back. He'll do it again, I'm sure he'll do it again.
I don't, man, I never remembered him being on.
Yeah, he was just at the club the other night, he came to the club Thursday night, Wednesday night, Wednesday night. Oh, okay.
Yeah, just a couple nights ago. Oh good, yeah, come and hang out. He's great, I love that dude.
He looks fucking amazing.
He does, I know.
He looks so good, he looks so much and-.
He looks like a different person.
But at first, his face was looking gaunt, kind of like mine does, where, like, your cheeks sunk in. But it's like, if you want a six pack or you want a fat face, you know you don't get both. If you got a fat face, you don't get a six pack.
No, yeah, that's a given.
If you want a six pack, your face gets thinner. But this red light thing is like, plumped up his face with collagen, and it just looks so healthy, his skin looks so healthy.
Yeah.
I'm really impressed, but his energy level is so different, it's amazing. But he doesn't eat any sugar anymore, he doesn't drink alcohol anymore.
And he's just fucking super healthy.
No alcohol, huh?
No alcohol, I mean, I'm sure occasionally maybe he'll have a drink, but he does not drink like regularly.
What's the next big fight?
Well, there's a nice card this next weekend in Austin that we're going to go see. I'm pumped about that. That should be fun. But then the big one is Colby versus Leon Edwards in Vegas.
So for the welterweight title, I heard about that, and that's a couple weeks from now. That's a big one, that's a big one.
That one's big, that one's exciting. Ooh, that's a good one. What else is that card? Pull up that card, Tony.
Tony.
Oh, that's right. Tony and Patti pimblitt. Tony's training with David Goggins, which is crazy, I know. Oh, Pantoja versus Brandon Royval for the flyweight world title.
And Shavkat Rachmanov versus Wonderboy.
That's going to be a good one.
And Vicente Luque versus Eden Gary? Ooh, those are good fights, that's a good fight. I'm very interested to see Tony after he's been training with David Goggins. There's a lot of, like, very mixed reviews about whether or not that would be a good thing or a bad thing for him.
Yeah, I see I read a bunch of those comments.
Yeah, it's interesting, it's like, who else is on it? Oh, Josh Emmett's on that fight against Giga, Oh Giga Chikadze's on that fight, too.
Look at this card.
Carter, Garbrandt and Brian Kelleher Oh, shit.
This is all on their own.
Dustin Jacoby and Alonzo Mennefield. Wow, these are good fucking cards. Yeah, it is, this is a good card. Holy shit.
Yeah.
Go all the way back down there again, please, that card is fucking stacked.
Yeah, that Cody fight will be good with Brian.
Mm-hmm, yeah. And Randy Brown versus Muslim Salikov is a fucking killer fight, too. These are good fights, man. Holy shit. That's a card from top to bottom.
Yeah, that's a really good card. How many fights is that?
Thirteen fights.
Fourteen.
Fourteen, thirteen in the world title.
That's a long day for you.
Ooh, yeah, that's a long day. It was fun, though.
Who's going to win this one right there?
Very interesting fight, very interesting fight. You know, how is Colby doing? Because he was pretty fucked up by that sucker punch, right?
Yeah, I think he's doing better now, yeah.
What was the extent of the damage?
I don't know what it amounted to. Yeah, I'm not sure.
Because he was settling them, and did they settle that?
I think they settled. Did I read that? They settled? Did you see that? yeah.
So he just said, Baby, bitch.
I think it was just, you know, proving a point.
Yeah, you can't be going around sucker punching people who just kicked your ass, you had your chance to punch him.
He had five rounds.
And it didn't work out at all.
I think it's just on principle. I think Colby was just like, No, I'm going to make you pay.
Yeah, well, you can't just let people get away with that. No, because then they're going to do it more often and it's going to really muddy up the sport.
It's going to be a real problem. It's just it's a crime, I mean, you're literally committing a crime. Don't do that.
I think, yeah, I think Colby's going to get that one.
You think, so, I want him to, I know you do, because you like him, yeah.
I like Leon, too. It's a good fight, I'll tell you that, because if you were going to pick someone. Jorge Mazdal pleads no contest to charge from altercation. This was November 6th.
Oh so, this just happened, so they haven't settled it yet.
If he pleaded no contest, okay, it says.
The plea deal.
It said that two felony charges of aggravated assault and criminal mischief were dropped as part of the plea agreement. There is a no stay away order in the agreement, also a no stay away order. What does that mean? What's a no stay away?
I can understand a stay away order.
Like a restraining order.
But not a no stay away.
There is no stay away order.
But it says there's also no stay away order in the agreement.
Right, there isn't a stay away order.
So he doesn't have to stay away.
So they can hang out with each other, yeah. The 38-year-old has been facing over 10 years in prison. The case stems from an altercation.
Punched him twice, breaking his tooth, even causing an alleged brain injury. The incident occurred just a few weeks after Cumming defeated Masvidal by unanimous decision in the main event, Masvidal says. I just beat the case. I want to thank God.
I also want to thank my attorney because I'm a free fucking man. Fuck you Colby, it's going to be a fucking movie. Now. All these orders, all these restraining orders, all these things have been lifted off.
It's going to be a fucking movie.
I don't know what that means.
Who's going to play Jorge?
That'd be a boring ass movie, like a guy sucker punches a guy and then gets off. That's a movie. Thank you, thank you, Jesus.
Yeah, I don't know if it's going to be a movie, yeah.
I think that brain injury, that's just maybe he had a concussion.
Yeah, he probably had a concussion, I mean, if he got sucker punched, most likely he got a concussion. The thing is, you can only get so many of those in your life, and if you get a big one right before, you're going to fight. Leon Edwards It's good that he took a lot of time off because he did take a lot of time off.
Yeah, he did.
It was like, two years, right?
Yeah, almost.
Yeah.
Pretty close.
Leon is fucking good, man, that's a good fight. But if you wanted to pick someone who would have a really good shot at Leon, it would be someone who's an elite grappler, who has an incredible gas tank, who can push a ferocious pace. That's Colby, and Colby wades right into the fire.
He starts it off like that, just to, I think, keep him honest. He'll come in throwing bombs because they know he wants to take them down. So he's got to keep that honest, I think. And just get them thinking about the big punches, too.
Yeah, he's got to get them thinking that this isn't just takedowns, and if you just think about takedowns, I'm throwing haymakers your way.
Yeah.
He's fucking good man. I mean, everybody other than Usman got fucked up by Colby, everybody.
And the Usman that faced Leon Edwards Man, I don't want to make excuses for Usman, but there is a reality of that guy's knees. Yeah, it's an inescapable reality that I know firsthand, I've talked to him about it, I know people that have treated him.
I know his knees are so fucked up, it is just his mind that allows him to compete at that level. We were talking about it during the last fight, when you see the difference between his upper body and his legs.
Right?
His legs are like, smooth, and they're not that muscular, and then you look at his upper body, he's a fucking superhero.
Yeah.
His upper body is so much better because he can't do much with his legs, man, which is so crazy. Yeah, this guy is one of the greatest UFC welterweight champions in history.
And he did it with fucked up knees, yeah.
He has to walk backwards downstairs.
Yeah, that's insane what he did, Insane, but how old is he now?
36, 37.
Yeah.
And then he just lost to Hamzat.
Yeah.
Which is just, boy, look. When that fight was announced, I was like, Ooh, that's a great fight, but if I was in Kamaru's ear?
It was on short notice, too.
If I was in Kamaru's ear, I'm like, dude, mm-hmm, no, and I would have said that same thing to Volkanovski. I said, no.
Not on short notice.
Not 10 days. You're the world champion. Yeah, you're not just a world champion, you're one of the best ever.
Yeah, and you have a real opportunity to go down in history as the greatest of all time. Then he gets head kicked. Mm-hmm with a 10-day camp.
And he gets knocked out like that counts.
Well, and it also can change your career.
100%.
Yeah.
And a head kick like that could change your life.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't know what the extent of the damage is, but there's been some head kicks where, yeah, like Terry Edom, when Terry Edom fought Edson Barboza.
Edson Barboza Wheel kicked Terry Edom in the head, and we kind of never saw Terry Edom fight at that level ever again. It was a devastating kick. He Wheel kicked him and just shut him off, and I believe it was the first wheel kick knockout in the history of the UFC.
Mm-hmm, I'm pretty sure.
It was perfect.
Yeah, it was just like the perfect example of how devastating that kick is when applied properly. And Terry Edom was like a world class contender. It kind of never was the same again, and he disappeared.
Yeah, that's a risk. I mean, everybody likes somebody who will go out on their shield and take any fight and like, always game, but man.
10 days is not enough.
What's the risk? Because obviously he wasn't in shape, so he's having to lose all that weight, you know, 30 pounds or whatever he had to lose. Mm-hmm.
You're not going to beat your best.
No way, no way you're going to beat your best.
You're fighting the champion.
But then you have the opposite, which is Tom Aspinall. Yeah, Tom Aspinall fights Pavlich and takes that fight on two weeks notice and becomes the interim champion.
And fucks his backup and can't train at all. That is crazy. Also, though he's a heavyweight, he doesn't have to cut weight.
Yeah.
That's what I'm just going to say. The bigger guys, I think it's not quite the same.
It's not quite the same. Doesn't have to cut weight, which is a giant factor. So he doesn't have to do massive amounts of cardio, and he could literally just let his body heal. Mm-hmm.
And I don't know what he was even able to do. His back apparently was pretty fucked up. Yeah, but the other good thing was that Pavlich is not a grappler. In fact, his lone loss was to Alistair overeem.
And Alistair got him down on the ground and ground and pounded him. That was very early in his career. But Aspinall, like that guy, he's something special, he really is something special.
He's a very unusual example, yeah, because he's a heavyweight and he's a big guy, a really big guy.
But he moves so fast. Mm-hmm. And his coach, I think it's Colin. I forget how to say his last name. How do you say his last name?
Colin Hoon.
I forget it's from Kabon, this gym that he trains at in the U..K. from the time he was young, emphasized his speed. So he knew he was going to be a big guy. You're always going to be a big guy.
Yeah, Colin Heron, Yeah, that's it. Breakdown Curtis Blades challenge.
Okay, so this guy he trained Darren till?
He looks tough himself.
I'm sure he's tough, you don't train those guys unless you're tough, No. But the point is that Colin from the early days of the career was emphasizing his speed, and so his speed has always been extraordinary compared to other heavyweights.
He just fucking moves in, it's all like fast, explosive movements. So he's got natural speed, but then he's also got a lot of training to execute quickly. So when he moves in, he closed the gap, you could see, like, fuck, he's fast for a big guy.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't know when I think of Volk. That fight was very close, he lost the first time, that was at the full camp at his best.
Yep.
I mean.
Yep.
Yeah, he lost, I think part of it was, he said. He needed something to do, too. Wasn't he like that? Idle? Time was killing him? Yeah, it was killing him.
Mentally.
But he's got a fight with Ilja Tupuria, who is a fucking killer.
Oh my god, that guy punches so hard.
Oh, he does everything so good. Ilja Tupuria is that guy is. he is fucking special. He's a real challenge.
When he fought Mitchell, because I thought, Bryce Mitchell, I mean, he's good.
Bryce Mitchell's very good.
And he beat the shit out of him.
He beat the shit out of him. But also Bryce Mitchell apparently was recovering from the flu. I think it was her.
Oh, sick.
That's right.
He said he wasn't making excuses, so I mean.
He wasn't making excuses, but here's an excuse.
Maybe, I mean, I get it.
I'm sure he's telling the truth.
That was a freaking.
It's a normal thing to happen in camp.
But that impressed me, how good.
Yeah.
What's his name?
Tupuria.
Yeah.
Well, then the Josh Emmett fight was really impressive. He beat the fuck out of Josh Emmett, and Josh Emmett is a hammer. He's a scary dude and I think Tupuria is special.
So Volk's fighting him next.
Yes, and he's fighting him after getting knocked unconscious. Yeah, you know, and I mean, look.
All fair play to Islam. Because Makachev looked fucking fantastic. He made all the adjustments between the first fight and the second fight. One of the first things he did was like heavy kicks to the body from the left side, which set up that high kick. Threw a lot of front kicks down the middle. I mean, he was hammering Volk from the outside.
Yeah, Volk did a lot of things in the first fight that he just could not do in the second fight because Makachev had improved so much. And I think the embarrassment of having a very close fight with a guy that you're supposed to steamroll, you know? And a guy who's the 145-pound champion, you're the 155-pound champion, you're talking about going to 170. And you have this incredibly close fight with this guy and you're not able to submit him and he's laughing at you and talking shit.
And at the end of the fight, he's beating you up, he's on top, yeah, he's beating you up. I think that was a very, very strong motivating factor. And Makachev just trained like a fucking monster for the second fight, which was supposed to be not—who was it supposed to be?
OLIVEIRA Yeah, it was supposed to be Oliveira. Oliveira gets injured, you know? But the point is, like, this guy—.
He was at his very best.
He was at his very best, very best, and he's always getting better.
Yeah.
He's the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world now. And I'm telling you, that argument could have been—before that fight, it could have been Volkanovski. You could have said Volkanovski's the best. Even though he lost that fight, he's going up in weight extremely close. I kind of thought he won the fight.
I gave him the nod, but very close, it's not a robbery, but very close. But now you've got to say, well, Makachev just is bad, he's better, he's better than he was the first fight.
And we don't really get a chance to see if Volkanovski was better, right, because Volkanovski didn't have a camp.
No.
You have to have a camp. The difference between these guys with a camp and without a camp is giant. It's like the difference between fighting at 40 and 100%.
I couldn't imagine.
It's crazy.
I mean, mentally, you'd have to—.I don't know. How could you believe in yourself?
That's what Camaro said. Camaro said he kept wondering whether or not he had the gas to go. Okay, yeah, didn't know if he had the gas to step on the gas.
And at the end of the fight, he started tuning, he did calms out up.
He looked good in the third round, I was wishing that fight was two more rounds.
I was wishing they just fucking figured out some shit for his knees.
Yeah.
If that guy didn't have bad knees, who's going to touch him?
Yeah.
He was so good in his prime, goddamn.
Especially when he got his—he got that power, you know, at first he didn't have it. It didn't seem like he was, you know, hardcore wrestling, but then, I mean, he hit Colby a couple times.
He stopped Colby hard, but how when he knocked out Masvidal with one shot?
Oh God, yeah, that was brutal. Power lights out.
Yeah, he's a real warrior man, yeah, but the most—the thing that impresses me the most is his mind, the fact that he can overcome that pain. The fucking guy's in pain, walking.
You know, it's like, Goggins, yeah, like people know now, because we've talked about it, Goggins just got another fucking knee surgery.
Yeah.
I mean his knees after Tony, or before Tony, before Tony, yeah.
His knees are destroyed, they're destroyed. It's bone on bone. There's nothing going on there other than two bones banging into each other. And he's running thousands of miles. The doctor looked at David's knees and he said, I don't understand how you could walk, never mind, run a thousand miles.
Right, how the fuck are you doing this? And it's just the mind, yeah, and that's the same thing with Camaro.
Another lover, Camaro, just—he just like, puts that shit aside.
How do you think that? —What do you think about Tony training with David? What do you think it's going to do?
I don't know, I don't know, because we've never seen anybody train with David before. Yeah, you know, look, you could say, on one hand, look clearly. When the two of them are training together. Dave is not struggling at all and Tony is struggling, so there is definitely some ground to gain when it comes to endurance.
Yeah, or endurance and mental strength.
Yes, but endurance it just—Tony's—I mean, Dave is not even fucking tired. They're going side by side with each other. He's like, who's going to carry the boats?
He's not even fucking tired, yeah, because he can go for days, he could just go for days.
He's an endurance athlete.
There's without a doubt some benefit in that. So look at the two of them are doing that and they're doing the workouts together. Yeah, and David looks like he's like, hanging out at Fucking Planet Fitness, yeah.
You know, trying to pick up a chick, you know, like, he's like, So what are you doing after this? You know what I mean? like? he looks like, fucking—.
Yeah, look at Tony standing up, Tony's dying.
Tony's dying.
I think he puked here on one of these videos.
I'm sure he puked, but David said that Tony was the first guy to get through Hell Week with him, which is incredible. So they're doing miles of lunges, miles.
And David's doing all this. Look at his knees, destroyed knees, yeah, and this is just a few weeks after another fucking surgery.
Yeah.
They opened up his knee like a fish and sewed that bitch back up together. I don't know what the fuck they did to it.
He's such a stud.
He's an animal, just a fucking pure machine.
You know who hates him, who weak men, yeah.
Weak men hate him, weak men and jealous men and people who don't know him. He gets misunderstood, you know? Unfortunately by some people that I like, yeah, they just don't look into it hard enough.
And then there's also a natural inclination to try to find someone who's just excelling above and beyond everyone and find shortcomings in them. Pick them apart, find something instead of just look at the message. That guy's saying, right?
What is he saying? He's saying, Take control, take control, use your fucking mind, take control of your life and be better at everything.
And you can do this. And I used to be a fat fuck and look at me now. That's a great message, man, that is, that message resonates with me.
It resonates with you, it resonates with all the people that we know. That is a fucking message and a half, and he's living it, he's not just saying it.
He's living it.
Yeah.
I think he's a national treasure.
Oh, so do I, you have this quote? I see it's been going around on reels talking about God. There's a certain set of men who that are just I can't remember how you say it. It's so good. I've been seeing people put it on their own reels, but they're just built for. I don't know if it's chaos or something.
Do you remember this Spiel you had?
I've said a lot of things. Yes, I know.
But it's like a good one that's really popular right now. But it describes people like David to a T. Yeah, and there are there's a certain group of men who a lot of people aren't going to understand.
Right, because it's so different. But to those people, it's like, those are the national treasure, those are the people, they're the beacon.
It's like, Okay, that's the goal.
Well, most people, they don't understand what it's like to really test yourself and to really do something that's difficult all the time. I'm doing this thing now, where I'm running this bootcamp for comedians.
Yeah, yeah, I've heard you talk about it.
So I did it today, yeah, and so Derek Poston just joined today. Shout out to my man Derek. So Asana Ma Derek, Brian Simpson, Duncan Trussell. When he's in town, he wasn't in town today, and Shane Gillis.
And we get after it, these guys are getting after it, that's awesome. And they start every day with a hundred pushups, a hundred body weight squats, we do five sets.
And I tell them, you can't do a hundred, don't do a hundred, you can do five pushups in a row and you're struggling. Stop at five. I'm trying to build a base, right? So I said, I don't want you to kill yourself.
The whole idea here is we're just building a base and we're going to keep going. And they've been doing it consistently. This week, it was four times a week. For how long?
We did it four times this week, when we were with the Rock, we worked out for three hours. No.
But when did you start this?
The bootcamp How long ago?
Four weeks.
Four weeks now, okay, so they're four weeks in.
Yeah, nice.
And we're very consistent.
They should be seeing results then.
They're seeing results, yeah, but they're seeing results in how they feel like almost immediately. Because I'm not killing them, I'm not killing them, but when the rock was here, I killed them.
When the rock was here, I was like, we're going to get after it today.
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