The Avett Brothers Return

2024-07-04 01:43:48

Hi, I’m Dax Shepard, and I love talking to people. I am endlessly fascinated by the messiness of being human, and I find people who are vulnerable and honest about their struggles and shortcomings to be incredibly sexy. I invite you to join me as I explore other people’s stories. We will celebrate, above all, the challenges and setbacks that ultimately lead to growth and betterment. What qualifies me for such an endeavor? More than a decade of sobriety, a degree in Anthropology and four years of improv training. I will attempt to discover human “truths” without any laboratory work, clinical trials or data collection. I will be, in the great tradition of 16th-century scientists, an Armchair Expert.

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Welcome, welcome, welcome to Armchair Expert,

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Expert Sign Expert.

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I'm Dan Rather and I'm joined by Modest Mouse.

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Hello.

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Hi, what are you reading over there?

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The same intro?

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Yeah.

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Oh.

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Today we have our friends on, the Avett Brothers.

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They're back.

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This is round two, Avett Brothers.

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Yes.

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But we get some good singing in this one.

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It's so fun.

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They're so, so special.

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They are.

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They combine to make something impossible.

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Yeah, they do.

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Yeah, sitting in the middle of it was transcendent.

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Fuck.

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That's what I want to say.

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Oh, the word transcendent?

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Yeah, as we say it again.

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Okay.

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And it's like a whole thing.

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Okay.

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The Avett Brothers are a Grammy nominated folk rock band.

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Their albums include Closer Than Together,

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True Sadness, Magpie and Dandelion,

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The Carpenter, I and Love and You.

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And they have a new album out now

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called, self-titled, The Avett Brothers.

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Yeah, they did a little loop-de-loop.

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They did.

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And they went self-titled now.

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Yeah, most people start self-titled.

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They're one, two, three, four, five.

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This is their sixth album.

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That's a cool move.

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It is, I like it.

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You're going to love Avett Brothers.

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What a special performance we get from both of them.

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Please enjoy.

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♪ He's an objects man ♪

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♪ He's an objects man ♪

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♪ He's an objects man ♪

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Olin here.

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It's a concert.

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Hi boys.

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How are you?

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Good, how are you?

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You got some instruments for this concert.

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Do you have a snare drum from downstairs?

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I bet if you played it down there,

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we'd be able to hear it.

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Take them in, Monica.

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I know.

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It's once in a lifetime.

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Have you guys been offered coffee and all this stuff?

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Yeah, I got a coffee.

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I feel like I know I shouldn't.

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Scott, how has that gone?

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For him not drinking coffee?

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The notion that he's not drinking coffee,

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I found it to be a betrayal.

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An off-putting?

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Yeah, who wants to hang with a guy

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who's not drinking coffee?

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Well, he doesn't have coffee with you.

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I'll tell you that much.

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And if he ain't having coffee with you,

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what is he doing?

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What is he doing?

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And he's judging you drinking coffee.

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No.

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He sure is, he's feeling high and mighty.

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I'm silently judging.

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How's the air up there, Seth?

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On that moral high ground?

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What about tea?

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Are you a tea guy?

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It's stifling.

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No, I like tea.

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I like decaf.

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He likes coffee, actually.

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Yeah, I love coffee.

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When I smell it, I'm like, ooh.

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All the more offensive.

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How dare you?

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Oh, that's true.

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It's just that I have so much self-control.

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I know!

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He's like proclaiming to the world, I'm a stoic.

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You should have a shirt that says I'm a stoic,

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because it's so much worse that you love it, isn't it?

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Yeah.

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That's someone who quits something every 10 days.

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For sure, but I would argue the thing I quit

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was driving the car into the ditch.

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Seth was just getting more energetic and likable.

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No, not more likable.

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We talked about this last week.

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I didn't have a plan.

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This only happened out of solidarity,

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because Jennifer was doing this cleanse, no meat, no caffeine.

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I was like, I'll just do it with you just for fun.

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But I had such a headache for about seven or eight days.

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I moved through it, and then I was like,

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well, that's it, I'm not going back.

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That's a great motivation.

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You don't like the headphones.

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Do I have to have them?

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Not at all.

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You can do it over the phone.

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That's a great motivation,

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but similar solutions don't ever stop.

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I understand not wanting to have the headaches ever again,

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but just resume and don't stop.

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Yeah, because it's always readily available.

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It's not like you can't get a hold of coffee.

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We all have our little battles

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with having to depend on things.

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I just didn't like, I was like,

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I don't want to depend on that.

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I know, I get that way too.

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I didn't mean to pick a fight with you

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as soon as you got in, but I took it really hard,

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as you can see, I was thinking about it two weeks later.

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This just feels like good motivation

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just to come back to it, because I've been missing out.

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Well, what would be great is if I could get you to do it now,

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because as we discussed,

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Michael Pollan wrote about caffeine in one of the books,

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and he said that after two months off of it,

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he takes his first sip and he's like,

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it's like doing cocaine.

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See, that's the thing.

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I do have it about once every few months,

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and it's awesome.

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Ooh.

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Yeah, rocket fuel.

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Maybe that's the way to do it.

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How are you doing, Scott?

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I'm good.

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You're good?

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Real good.

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Where's your energy level at?

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It's solid, for sure.

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We've both been up since about 2.30 this morning.

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Yeah, but I'm peaking right now,

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so this is midday for you.

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This is good.

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You're fucked for Kimmel.

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Yeah, Kimmel's gonna get me the leftovers.

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Sorry about that, Jimmy.

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Kimmel's down river.

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Why were you guys up since 2.30?

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We're on North Carolina time.

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Okay, but you didn't fly here this morning.

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We flew here yesterday.

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Yesterday.

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Yeah, and I mean, I wake up around 5.30.

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And you boys over at that Hilton Universal?

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No.

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No.

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No.

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Should be.

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I love the Hilton Universal.

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It's a lot closer to here than where we are.

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Yeah, Seth was explaining to me

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that you guys have to stay there

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because of the tour bus parking, basically.

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We have in the past, and we fell in love with it.

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Yes.

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Like it turned into this little thing.

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I have those too.

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But you've told us the story

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about your relationship with it

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and your perspective of the area

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because you have a much more dynamic relationship

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with the area and some people that you encountered there.

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For people that didn't hear that episode,

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I think he's referring to the time

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that five gentlemen almost jumped me

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in the lobby of the AMC 26

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over there at Universal CityWalk.

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But I love that.

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I have certain, you guys must.

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We were just talking about it.

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There's a hotel in Austin

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and it's where I stayed on my very second movie ever.

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Four Seasons, we can shout it out.

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Yeah, and it's the first time I ever stayed

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at a Four Seasons and it's on the river

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and I was doing a movie with Mike Judge.

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And I walk into the lobby of that hotel

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and it's, I bet, as close as I'll feel

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to church that people feel.

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Oh, this is so special.

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Where do you most look forward to going

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where it kind of delivers every time

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other than the Hilton Universal?

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Well, we do have a couple of those spots

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that we can't say on Mike

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because they are away from places

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and they're really random.

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Okay.

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And they're usually rural.

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We have found a couple of really sweet spots

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in rural areas for days off that you wouldn't expect.

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And they're not necessarily fancy.

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They're just really good for bus parking

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and for space and for being able to walk

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to a place that has good juice.

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Just a nice usable spot.

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Here's the rule.

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So somebody said, well, what's the prerequisite

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to know where you're gonna go?

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I say, if you can leave the bus door unlocked.

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Okay.

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That's hard to find.

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And are you finding that's possible

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at the Hilton Universal City Walk?

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No, it's not possible.

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No, you do not.

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You do not leave the doors unlocked.

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In fact, it's very rare that you leave

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the doors unlocked anywhere.

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You leave the motor running there.

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I'll tell you that much.

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Yeah.

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Not the generator motor, the engine.

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The one that you can put into park and drive.

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I guess you gotta make a pasty exit.

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Are these places so sacred that even off-air

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you're not gonna let me in on them?

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Cause you know, I too contend with bus parking.

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We'll tell you off-air.

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Give me the cheat sheet.

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Yeah, we'll give you the cheat sheet.

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We'll send you a map.

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Are you guys allergic to fancy?

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Do you feel embarrassed if you're at a fancy place?

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No, I like fancy.

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No.

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Okay.

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We're not allergic to it.

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Yeah, if you broke up Scott's sections of his life,

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he had a period, like if he were an artist

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and he had a sunflower period,

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Scott had a whole period that was G-Wagon.

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Boy, I was obsessed with a G-Wagon.

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Oh yeah.

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I saw you live a few times.

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I mentioned it on stage.

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Couldn't keep it off your tongue.

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I mentioned it during a song.

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Yes, you did.

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I can't believe at some point they didn't just give you one.

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I mean, my man, you were out there promoting the product.

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Not anymore.

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And then you didn't get the product.

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I still may eventually.

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This is a really good approach to life.

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You have something you can get.

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It's got a little stoicism.

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You resist the urge.

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Because the fantasy's generally better than the acquisition.

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Yeah, it must be.

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But I tried to talk you into,

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and I want to tell the story of this really lifetime fantasy

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you guys granted me two summers ago.

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I'll hit you with that first.

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I had been begging you guys to just let me ride on the bus

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and act like I'm in a rock band for a minute.

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Keep asking, keep asking.

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Apparently logistics was always the issue.

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That's what they say.

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Locations couldn't be provided because of privacy.

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But by God, Aaron Winkley and I were driving around in my bus

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and we're like, where are we going to go?

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We have two weeks to fuck around.

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And I thought, let's see where the Avett brothers

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are playing.

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That's awesome.

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We were in North Dakota when I Googled this.

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And I was like, by God,

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they're in Indianapolis in three days.

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So we hightailed it down to Indianapolis

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and we got to park our bus with y'all's buses.

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Fuck me, that was great.

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It was nice.

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Thank you for that.

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You know, I've talked with Jennifer.

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We've talked about this a few times.

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I've always laughed about you and your bus

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because there's a reason that bands lease them.

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You know, it's like a house.

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There's always something breaking.

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They're not cheap to buy.

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They're not cheap to run.

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And there's a million working parts

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and they're always breaking.

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The brand new ones are breaking.

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And we always talk about how impractical it is.

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Our most recent conversation about it,

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she was like, but why did he buy it

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instead of like borrowing it when he wanted it?

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And I'm like, babe, Dax wants to drive the bus.

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That's the difference.

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Like we lease a bus, we lease a driver.

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He helps us.

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You know, we've been with him for many years.

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Sometimes you wake up and the guy's washing the inside

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of the windshield while driving the vehicle.

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Fully up the seat.

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That has happened.

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That's why I want to drive the bus.

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It's not just the bus.

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It's not just that type of travel.

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Dax, he needs to be behind the wheel of the giant engine.

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I got to spend 60% of the vacation

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fixing the fucking contraption.

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That's right.

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Because when you say it breaks like a house,

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that doesn't even begin to explain it.

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And the guy who I bought it from, David Garza in Dallas,

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he said, Dax, this is like owning a home

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that's in a hurricane with 100 mile an hour winds

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at all times.

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The thought I just had was like two hands

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like on the side of the house that you live in,

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just shaking it.

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That's what is happening to it.

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So of course the hot water heater is going to break sooner.

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The seals are going to come undone.

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That's just how it is.

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Everything's going to break inside it.

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It's a perfect thing to own if you love problem solving.

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You got a busy mind.

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You want to get out there and figure out

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why you got no power and nothing's working.

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And it provides the same thing that is provided

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for people that love RV and camping.

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I don't think you get to have your cozy little home

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anywhere else.

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And the most embarrassing thing, I can bring all my weights.

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How else am I going to travel

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with a few hundred pounds of weights?

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You're not going to be able to do it, Dax.

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That's the bottom line.

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So really it was imperative that you buy them.

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That's true.

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I had no choice.

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I would love to see the little mazes in your mind

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that work out how to justify certain purchases.

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Like, well, I got to take the weights with me.

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Sorry, Kristen.

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So I guess I got to buy this bus.

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Hey, Kristen, I got to buy this bus.

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Got to have Lincoln's dirt bike everywhere we go.

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What would she do if she didn't have her dirt bike

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that she barely likes to ride?

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I can't just drop this thing off at UPS

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and have him chip it over there.

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Okay, so Scott, on that lovely little,

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what was fun about it is we were parked with you guys

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and then we would wake up in the bus

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and we'd come out and basically just live like the bandit.

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We'd meet you all for the meals before the show.

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A lot of chit chat.

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It was so fun.

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We were catching mice in the thing.

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I don't know if you remember that part of it.

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Like a house, you can get mice in the bus.

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Did those come with your bus?

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They are an add on, yeah.

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Upgrade.

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I was trying to talk you into a Raptor R.

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Yeah, that's right.

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And I thought I had tickled your fancy a bit.

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You have.

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But did you get that?

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So I didn't.

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Scott made a purchase recently

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that you'd be interested in though,

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that he immediately regretted.

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How do I say this?

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Some people make one really big purchase every now and again

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and then some people make a lot of piddly purchases

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and break themselves doing that.

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So I would back off of something like a Raptor R

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or a G-Wagon, which I think are just blessings

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to this world.

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They're not just fancy, just like a fancy hotel room.

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I think this is a gift and it's not just luxury.

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It's earthly, it's beauty.

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I think the Hawaiians would call it mana, it's power.

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Well, that too.

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So what I did end up doing was buying a 1986 Ford Crown Vic.

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Yes.

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With 22,000 original miles.

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It's like a brand new car.

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It's incredible.

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That's a great purchase.

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I don't know.

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It is.

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I'm having some title issues with it

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because it came from Pennsylvania.

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No problem.

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We're working it out,

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but we're still trying to clear the paperwork.

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I'm not sure.

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I think I bought it because when we were watching

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Men in Black, me and the boys,

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we saw the black one that he's driving

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and I was like, I heard it, you know.

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It was like, oh man, Luke, that's an incredible car.

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They didn't make them like they are

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and they don't fly like that.

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They're not like Men in Black.

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No.

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But so we purchased this car.

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Do you know I was horny for the exact same car?

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Really?

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Oh my God.

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That's one of my favorite movie cars of all time

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because it's so God damn plain and stupid and boxy.

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They have block.

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And then the way they made it sound in the movie.

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And with 22,000 miles, it is pristine.

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It's like sitting in a brand new car.

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It's really weird because nobody saved those cars.

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They bought them for their family and they wore them out.

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For us in our generation, we see that as like,

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oh, I remember my buddy's mom had this car

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and we rode into school or whatever, but no.

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It's as close as I can get to time traveling.

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It is.

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So I bought the exact same thing, but the GM model

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because Lincoln has a Lincoln to inherit.

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And I was like, Delta needs a Delta to inherit.

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And the Oldsmobile made the Delta 88.

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And it is as stupid and boxy and boring as that Crown Vic.

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And so I bought an 85 Delta 88

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that's currently getting an LS3 and a six speed.

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So that's the trick.

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We got to link up when we come down to Nashville,

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you and I got to do like a stupid hot rod car cruise.

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So I need to do that to that car.

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We have enough resources around Charlotte.

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You could dumpster dive and find a NASCAR motor

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where you guys live.

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That's actually true.

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We're like throwing away crazy parts.

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It's ridiculous.

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But I had started earlier.

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What is the venue that never fails

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to rekindle the romance and the nostalgia?

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There are several.

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The New Hampshire venue.

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What is it called now?

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El Pollo Loco Family Theater.

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It's changed.

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The Bank of New Hampshire.

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You guys play at the bank when you go to New Hampshire?

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Wells Fargo.

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Financial Center Theater.

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It's high interest.

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APR loans to low credit score arena.

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Tampa Theater.

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It's like an old fairground, but there's several.

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That one comes to mind just because

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of the nostalgia of being there.

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Is Red Rock up there?

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It is.

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We have such a relationship.

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I mean, it's been 30, what, six times we've played?

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So we have a history with it in terms of always delivering.

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Yeah, it's like that.

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It's been so celebrated.

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It's more exciting for us to think about other places,

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but Red Rocks is an obvious answer.

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It's a place that could never be built now.

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You could never get permission to build that.

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Because what, they just blasted out.

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Yeah, like in whatever, 1900, carved it out

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of like one of the most beautiful.

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Put seats in it.

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Yeah, we're gonna make this a theater.

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Thank God they got that happening before you couldn't,

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in a way, but there is quite a spiritual element

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to seeing a show there or performing there.

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We've developed a personal relationship with it

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at this point.

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You know, it's one thing to pass through it

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on the way as you hit stardom,

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but we've developed this long lasting

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personal relationship with it.

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Is it the same date every year?

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