2024-03-15 00:47:42
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Hello, everyone. Welcome back to another episode of call her daddy. It is Alex, your father, back at it again. I'm really, really, really excited to flashback to this episode. As you guys know, we're doing a little flashback Friday from the past three years of my episodes on Spotify.
Okay, so, daddy gang.
Anita may have been one of my all time favorites. Ever. I remember her walking into the studio and the energy was absolutely insane. We had met at an event the prior week, and we hit it off. We were talking about all these sexual things together.
And I was like, wait, why are you literally the best person ever? She is an absolute icon, pop star. She knows how to twerk. She knows how to talk. She talks about all the sex relationships, everything you need to know.
You want to know how to give a good blowjob.
Every single thing. This woman just embodies confidence in a way that I, I just was enamored with her. So, daddy gang, get ready. Anita is a sexual, fun, insane episode. And, yes, she does teach us how to twerk.
So, prepare, get ready, sit back, relax. This is a perfect episode to kick off a Friday with a little sexy time with my girl, Anita.
What is up, daddy gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with Call Her Daddy.
Anita, welcome to Call Her, Daddy. Thank you, daddy gang. We are in the presence of truly someone that is just doing it all. And I'm honored to be sitting with you today. Anita is the most successful Brazilian artist to ever come out of the country.
Billboard magazine has called her more influential than Beyonce, Rihanna and Lady Gaga. What the fuck? No big fucking deal, Anita. In Brazil, maybe. I don't know.
International. I don't know. You also are nominated for a Grammy this year for Best New Artist. Congratulations.
Thank you.
It is like. your career is incredible and watching you grow has just been so fucking cool. But I know you from when we met at the Baby to Baby Gala. I need to hear what your favorite moment is from that event, because I know we met briefly, but we were sitting next to each other. I was dying.
You are so funny. You're so charismatic. You have such a personality. What do you remember from that event?
I think our table was so fun. We had like very fun people with us and we had fun just talking about things that people would never talk in a fancy table of auction, you know? Dinner, I don't think.
Yes, Anita and I are like, we meet and two seconds later, Anita is like, so like, how does your vagina smell? And I was like, hey, girl, what's up? We're like, let's talk about our buttholes and our vaginas as like a corporate Spotify person is sitting directly to our left. My favorite was also, when they, not that, like everyone knows, the Baby to Baby Gala, but so there's like angels that work at the event.
Oh, my God.
So Anita is like chilling and like now. it's like towards the end of the night, like people have left, but like people are saying, so Anita is like, you know, girl, like I got an early morning, like I'm going to dip out. And I'm like, totally get it. I'll be leaving soon. So everyone in the crowd is sitting and they're like, hey, can all the angels stand up?
To give people context, it's about 11 women in a crowd of 300 and they go, everyone, all the angels stand up. Anita just starts standing up. She's like, bye everyone. I got to go. And it's a dead silent room.
And she was like, wait. And I'm like, Anita, it's only the angels.
It's worse than that. It's worse than that. Tell us. In my mind, I thought she was telling, she was calling all the women angels. Stand up all the women.
And I thought all the women was going to stand up. That's why I stood up.
And you're like, this is a perfect moment for me to like sneak out the back door. Only 11 people of like 300.. And Anita literally sits back down. She's like, motherfuck.
That was terrible.
It was, it was a great moment.
Let's kind of go back through, like your life, a little bit to get to know you better. What was life like where you grew up outside of Rio de Janeiro?
So people don't think when, when they see me or they see like my songs and whatever, they don't imagine that I come from. like the communities. It could be called the ghetto a little bit. It's like the favelas. When you go to Brazil, there's like communities, places that, like the houses, are really close to each other.
It's a really like, humble place, simple. I come from a place like that. I was born and raised in a place like that. My mom used to do the best she could to fake the danger and the bad sides of it for me and my brother. So we all see everything with like this beauty and playing in the streets, things like that.
Very like, very like in the hood, you know? But she always told us that a way for us to leave there, it's not that we don't like there, but we all want to leave because we want a better life. So she always said that the only way to get out would be studying. And we always did the best we could like studying and doing like all we could. And I always loved music.
So I started doing music, but also like studying everything. I was my own manager for like 10 years. Me and my brother, we were partners. So it was a whole job, not only from arts, but also like business.
When and at what age did you realize your love for performing?
Oh no. Since I was a little kid, I was already like singing. And when I was three years old, like four or five, I was already singing. And my family used to ask me, like these questions, like, what are you going to be when you grow up? Whatever.
And I was used to be like, I'm going to be famous. I'm going to be an artist. I'm going to have a pool in my house. Blah, blah, blah, blah. That was literally me.
So you kind of always knew? Always. I would pass through some, pass by some places that I knew it was like TV places, like studios or whatever. And I used to open the window or go to the bus window and say like, you guys are going to see me. I'm going to work here.
Blah, blah, blah. Nine years old. I was always like this personality kind of crazy.
I love that so much, though, because I think sometimes you have to have that energy in order to get to where you need to get.
I was sure. It was not that I said like, Oh, I want to be. I was sure. I would tell my family where I was going to live, how my house would be, the TV shows I was going to be, the people we're going to meet. I would be like that.
when I was a kid. I could literally like, see and dream about this. And like my family was like, okay, because it was a very humble life. So they would never perspect that in my life. Totally.
So they would be like, okay. And I was like, you guys don't understand. I'm not saying I want to, I'm going to be there.
There's no option. It's happening. Do you guys want to come along for the ride or not? Who were some artists that you admired growing up?
Mariah Carey was my first one. My first diva. And I had the opportunity to tell her that. And it was crazy. And to be on the phone with her for hours.
That was crazy. And for me, she was the number one forever. And then Rihanna. And now I'm sponsored by Fenty. I did their Fenty show.
I do like photo shoots for Fenty. It's crazy.
Even when you're saying that, like, does it still feel surreal? Like how much success you've had?
I think we should always remember, because sometimes, and I think the industry does this to us, they push us to think that we need always more, more and more and more. And I think nowadays, with the internet, it's kind of impossible for you to reach everything, everyone, every time. You got to be happy also. You got to take time for yourself also. So I think that this speech that I used to have for my life for many years, like, you can be more, you can do more, never stop, never give up.
I was like that. And when I was like that, I couldn't see those things that happened in my life. I would be like, okay, yeah, I met Mariah. Okay, yeah. I loved it.
But I couldn't like, look and be like, wow. Nowadays, for me, it's like, yeah, we can definitely give up. We can definitely go rest, take a nap, go to sleep. We don't need all the money in the world. You know, a person, the money doesn't mean happiness.
And as many number ones you get in your life, that's not going to make you happier, or not. So for me, it's like every single thing that happened in my life, I learned how to stop and be like, wow, look at what I did. This is so... And then live that moment again. I got to this reflection, because last year I got super sick, right?
Super sick. I couldn't do anything. I couldn't go upstairs in my house. I couldn't do anything. Literally, for three months, I was like, and I thought literally, that I was going to die.
It was a whole thing. And then I was in the hospital for so long. And then I was like, you know what? I was just working, working, working to reach everything, and thinking I still didn't have enough. And now I'm here.
And what did I get from life? Did I enjoy it? Did I have fun? Did I do nothing? And the thing that I wanted the most was to travel, to have more free time.
But today is too much. For you to be successful, you got to be on Instagram, YouTube, TikTok, Spotify. It's so many things that you got to do. We're just one human being. How can we do all of that?
It's a lot. So I'm not up to waste my life searching for things anymore. Because I'm almost 30. now. I'm 29..
And I do think it was important and amazing for me to do that for so many years. But now I just want to rest. If I get more success, amazing. If no, amazing.
Your birth name is actually Larissa. Do you mind sharing why and when you started going by Anita?
She didn't like to be just one girl. She liked to wake up and decide which girl she wanted to be. Today I want to be crazy. Tomorrow I want to be sexy. And then I want to be pretty.
And then I want to be a princess. And I was like, that's so cool. Because I don't like to define myself and be like, okay, I'm this. I'm so many things. I like to discover every day, a new me.
And I think people have the necessity of defining you and being like, oh, she is that. And I like to be all.
What is the difference between Larissa and Anita?
Oh, my God, it's huge. It's huge. I started my career 12 years ago. Here in America, I am a Best New Artist. I'm joking.
But I am nominated as Best New Artist for the Grammys because it's a new career. I started from the zero. I left everything and I came to start here again. But 12 years ago, when I started there, I created this character because me, Larissa, I'm very shy, to be honest. I'm very insecure.
I'm very like, I don't like going out. I don't like socializing. I don't like doing anything. You know, I'm so the opposite of who I am when I'm in this character. And when I created this character, Anita, I wanted a person, a persona that would be completely against hypocrisy.
You know, people that are hypocrites, that say one thing and do the other, you know, and that's what I wanted to do.
How many languages can you sing in?
Sing? I can sing in five languages. It's because I sing in Portuguese, Spanish, English, Italian, and French. But French, just a little bit. I speak just a little bit.
And Italian, a little bit.
How the fuck did you learn all these languages?
So, I'm going to give a very good example right now of Larissa and Anita, right? Okay. So, when I go to Inderville as Anita, you get to deliver entertainment, right? Yeah. So, people ask me, how did you learn so many languages?
I say, with boyfriends. Whenever I wanted to have, know a new language, I would date a different guy and like different accents. But in reality, I had, which is kind of boring, the reality. Larissa, I hired different teachers from different places of the world and I used to leave them in my dress room for whatever commitments I had. So, I used to like get two hours of glam every day.
I would be studying during these two hours. The teacher would be telling me, and I would be like studying for these two hours.
I fucking love your honesty of like, let me be so clear. Anita is like, bitch, if I wanted to learn Italian, I'm going to date an Italian man.
I'm going to fuck an Italian guy.
Actually, I was just hiring people and they were just teaching me. Do you ever worry that, like now, being so honest about like the two characters that people will be like, wait, why? What the fuck? Like this isn't the real you?
No, because I think it's so important for me to have this clear and to understand that I use my character to break rules, to break boundaries and like things that limit us women to do. All women, women that wants to be free in sex, women that wants to be free in work, whatever. I like this character. It brings to us self-esteem, confidence and something to look at. Even I do when I'm myself, Larissa, nowadays, I look at me as a character and I'd be like, okay, I think I can get that from Anita and be a little bit more confident about myself.
It's so much easier for people to watch a movie and see that character and be like, okay, and understand the actor is another thing. But they don't understand that. musicians, singers, they do the same thing. We do the same thing. There's no way we're bringing the on self, the person that we are at home, the person that we are in family, and bring this person on stage.
It's not entertainable. It's not different enough for people to look and be like, oh, this is special.
Who is your favorite person that you've collaborated with on a song?
Snoop Dogg. That is for sure. Because I think him and Cardi B. Because they are so funny, and Snoop Dogg is very simple, humble and everything for him is a vibe. It's all about if he likes you, if he likes your energy.
If he has something kind of, I don't know, he sees someone and he feels the energy and then he decides if he likes or not. I feel, I think so. That's what I think from him. Because I just feel like I can hug him and be there safe forever. I think he's one of the coolest guys.
And Cardi B, she's just funny, good energy, best energy, high level. I love that.
I was reading the list. I'm like Pharrell, Missy Elliott, Snoop Dogg, Rita Ora, Cardi B, Saweetie, Becky G. I'm like.
Becky is one of my best friends. Missy Elliott was great energy too.
Oh, it was so good. So good. Okay, Anita, you're also known for your dancing. The Anita challenge went viral on TikTok, which I remember just watching these videos and being like, one, how is this not getting censored on TikTok? I can't even like fucking curse in my TikTok.
Meanwhile, people are like doing the challenge and like. it's incredible watching it. Can you explain how twerking in Brazil is different than twerking in America?
Because it's not even only twerking, it's partying in general. I think here in America, people in the parties, they're more concerned about who they're with, where they're going, what they're wearing. And, you know, it's like the table situation. In Brazil, there's no table situation. You go to the party, there's no table.
Everyone is just one place. Mass together. Oh, find out, you know, and we love dancing. We love dancing. Sometimes we don't even understand whether you're singing.
We just want to dance. Sometimes it's just the same lyrics over and over. They just sing a different melody, just same words always. And we love it. We just want to dance.
We just want to listen and dance.
What is it like being known for like the way that you dance? Are you like so proud of yourself?
It's crazy, because in Brazil, it started this fever of like, oh, we're going to do. Anita moves, Anita moves.
OK, now we need you to twerk again. OK, so this is going to be iconic. I think people will fucking love it. Is this the wrong surface? Oh, my God.
OK, OK.
No, it doesn't need to. OK, so you just go like you're going to do a push-up, right? OK. And then you just do a circle, that basically you're doing this with your knees. OK.
You focus here.
What? Wait. Well, that would take a lot of effort. You're doing this. What is this?
Anita. Oh, my God. I don't agree.
This other one is hard, though, when you do like when you do a circle, but you stop in the middle. So you do a square.
There's one that's harder.
I feel so creepy. I'm like, holy shit.
Dude, that was so good. I am like inspired now to go home and like secretly practice it, but like not letting anyone know I'm practicing it. I will be worked on it next time I see you. Maybe I'll have a little move to bust out. And do you incorporate these into your set?
No, no. It's just a dance.
When the guy asks me to dance. I go like. Dance first. He's never going to fucking dance. So I'm like, what.
the fucking question is that?
Right. You're like, I'm not. I'm not performing. Exactly. I get silly.
It's so annoying.
Dance, first. You dance. I dance.
Are you currently single or in a relationship?
I'm single, completely single and not looking for anything. I'm so happy with myself and I don't have sex in months. So many months. I don't even remember the last time I had sex. To be honest with you.
Are you just masturbating?
No.
Like I'm celibate. Listen, I didn't find anyone special. I didn't find anyone special enough that I would think like, OK, this one deserves to come here. And I didn't find it. yet.
You're spending time alone. But I was crazy before. I used to like fuck, even like one person that would cross me on the street. I'll be like you. come here.
Stop. I would be like that.
How did you get that confidence to just go up to people?
Because I was living Anita 24-7 at the time.
Do you have a type of guy?
No. Girl. Breathing and alive. I don't know. There's something inside that comes and there's something.
for some reason I can feel it. And then I'm like, so there's no type. I can literally show you three different ex-boyfriends and you'll be like, what's the sense between these people?
I love that, though. What do you think is like something that you're most attracted to in a person?
I think when they're funny. I love. when they're funny. You make me laugh.
When they are confident, a little aggressive, but in a good way. I like when they are aggressive in a good way. Not like abusive relations.
Have you found yourself in any abusive relationships?
Oh yeah. Terrible. But I needed just once and then never again.
After this one guy I had for a year and something, I can look. if I'm starting with someone. In one month, I can feel it's abusive and I'm like, out.
Can you try to give, if people are listening, they're like, fuck, I think I may be in one. Do you have any signs or things to look for?
Yeah, because in the beginning, they let you feel very uncomfortable. And then they start to make you feel insecure about yourself. Without saying, they don't say you are less or not. They just point things at other people that they're actually talking about you, but they pretend they're not. And then, oh honey, I'm almost a psychologist.
I look and I'm like, hmm, okay. And then I start bringing shit over for themselves to think.
So you mean they'll point something out in someone in a room? Yeah, for sure. That relates to you, or is what you don't have?
Or just say, you see, that's so bad. Oh, my God. Kind of like to guide you how to not be.
Are you usually the one breaking up with people?
I am. I need that to change, though. I think that's why I'm waiting so much. I want things to be different.
Got it. What is like a deal breaker for you in a relationship?
When I feel suffocated. I don't like that.
Or when I think, when I feel suffocated is the number one thing. Like when the guy doesn't let you breathe and like jealousy for no reason, you know, like too much. Come on or needy. Like I miss you. I want to talk to you like 24, seven.
Come on, give me a break. Give me a time to breathe.
Right. There's nothing more like unattractive, which I get it. We're all insecure, but being in a relationship with someone that's so insecure about you in the relationship. It's like such a turnoff. You're like, can you, just like, get into therapy?
Muster the courage.
When the guy tries, he's selfish. He tries to say he's doing things for you, but he's actually doing for him. He doesn't want to be alone. He is needy. He doesn't want to stand with himself alone.
But he says that. Oh, no, I'm doing this for you. Come on, you're not. I want to be fucking alone. Yeah.
For a little time.
Can you give advice to women listening that are like, okay, wait, Anita, you have not been with someone. You're not hooking up with people. Like, how are you so comfortable being alone? So everything started.
And I hope people don't need that to change lives. When I got sick, that was like when I was in bed thinking I was going to die. I started to look over all the things in my life. And I started to see all the things that I didn't want to repeat again. It's not that I don't want to have sex with people anymore.
Please, God, I'm down. I'm open. I'm free tonight. I'm just saying that I'm rethinking the reason why I used to do things and how I was doing things. And I want to do differently.
I don't want to have sex with a guy because I want him to fall in love with me. Or because I don't want to lose him. I want to have sex because I feel like doing it. Because I feel like this guy deserves my, this queen going to, you know, I don't know. And before I didn't used to like staying by myself.
I used to, just like, need friends every time in my house. Friends. Every time I needed people. Yup. And now, I don't need nobody.
I can be alone like this for days. You know, cook my own food and be like, life is beautiful. I'm just here chilling. And I feel like we need to ask ourselves, why are we scared of the silence? What is inside of us that we don't want to listen to?
You know, what we don't like about ourselves, that we don't want to face it. I'm not saying I regret the thousands of people I fucked. I'm just saying right now I don't feel like. Maybe next month I feel like fucking thousands of people again. Just now I just feel like.
Not right now.
It wasn't worth it.
I remember, I went through almost, I've never said this. I almost went an entire year in my 20s where I did not have sex. And I was like totally happy.
I was so happy.
It was just like a reclaiming moment for myself. I need to just figure my own shit out. And I don't need any penis getting in the vicinity of me while I try to figure it out.
I kind of want, but it needs to be a great penis. It needs to be a penis plus, a brain plus, a tongue plus so many things. It needs to be a mix. Because it's a lot of work to have sex. For me, it's a lot of work.
I like to put a show on.
You do. Can you give us some tips, Anita? If the girls are like, what do you mean? put a show on? Give us some tips.
Because I like to enjoy myself. I like to feel like I'm dancing and performing.
Is it a deal breaker for you if a guy is not good at eating you out?
I teach.
I love you. I would teach. I would say, come on, let me say something. Do this, do that. I don't like.
when they go like this. They put the tongue very hard and they go like.
And it's like you go like.
Oh my God, I don't like that. It's just like a little slithering and you're like.
It's so bad. These days. Oh, by the way, I didn't have sex with guys this whole time. With girls I did have. So I was teaching this friend of mine how to eat a pussy these days.
And she was like, oh, it's that easy? And I was like, yeah. I came in three minutes. She came in two.
Wait, you were practicing on each other?
Yeah.
And you're just friends?
Yeah.
There was no like sexual connection?
Oh no, I was just teaching her.
Okay, like we need some tips. Without taking off your pants and us doing it. Do you have any like one specific thing that you can adjust for? the men or women listening that could maybe, just like help achieve more orgasm?
I will say first of all, for girls, for whatever, guys, girls, to eat girls. Personally, I think it's kind of different for each girl. I don't know the things I like can be different from the things other girls like. Me. personally, when I'm doing that with a girl, I go nice and slow.
I do circles and then I just do up and down and I do side by side, but like slow and wet. And not like you're eating a pasta.
It's just like you are an ice cream, that it's cold and you cannot freeze your tongue. If you're going to freeze your tongue, you're going to feel like ice cold. And yeah, I just go nice and slow and then I put a finger on it and I don't put the finger on it. Like, you know, I just put it like nice and slow, small movements and like just move, you know. And then, like I don't go in the crazy side by side.
I just go in a smooth, keep going with the flow, you know, and the girl is kind of going to guide you. And then you can just put the finger in the beginning of the entry of the vagina. You don't need to go all the way down there. And it's not because the woman squirt that she came. There was this time this guy made me squirt like 20 times and I was not coming.
I was like, this doesn't mean something is happening.
Men that are obsessed with getting a woman to squirt. Look at me in the eyes of this camera. Stop.
The next day it hurts.
Oh, it hurts so bad. Come on. I think sometimes men forget, like, would you want us like jackhammering your dick? No, you like when it's like very wet and like you don't need it to be like, let's fucking go. Imagine we did that also dry.
You would have rug burn. Same for us. Okay. Same for us.
There is also, like with guys, what I do, I always use oil when I can, when the guy is not full of like, some guys are like, oh, you're using. I love, I love using lubricant. Love it. And some guys think it's because they're not doing a good job. Shut the fuck up.
It's just more. Pleasing. Yes. You use lubricant. I put the lubricant.
I'm going to teach you.
Okay. Okay. Here we go.
I put the lubricant and then I go like this. First of all, I go like this, and then this is one movement, and then you're going to do something. There's something you can do, that they are not going to understand what you're doing. You're going to tell him to close his eyes. You're going to do this.
You're going to hold here in the bottom and you're going to do this with the hands like this. You go down and circle down, circle down, circle. And then you go up and up and you do this, but up and down, up and down. And you do this.
He's going to be like, what is happening? But you should put lubricant on it. But you go like that. Don't do this. It's like go up and down.
Don't let it go. Just open, up and down. And you do this, open and close, open and close, because then you're going to switch the pressure on it. And you're going to be like, what is she doing? But you got to put lubricant on it.
Right. So you're kind of like massaging down past their tip and then around their shaft while you're holding the base.
Yeah, like this. Oh, that's magical. And then they get super confused because it feels like a blow job, but it's not. And then, for the blow job, I like using things that you put in your teeth to fix it. Plastic.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The Invisalign.
Kind of. Yeah. There's a bunch of brands. Yeah. If you use the one down, just the one down.
Life changing. Really? Because it feels like you don't have teeth.
Anita.
It feels like you don't have teeth. Yeah, you can try.
I just added that to my Amazon cart while you were speaking.
You're going to ask them. Wow. They're going to feel like you don't have teeth.
And just on the bottom.
Because it's going to touch the, yeah, because it's on the up too. It's going to look weird. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But if you use only on the bottom, they're going to feel like you don't have teeth, because you can touch as much as you want with this teeth here, because it's not like aggressive. It's like smooth as a plastic.
This is an educational podcast today.
Okay.
We are educating about this. But this is bad. They don't like it. Like the brand of the dentists. They will try to kill me.
And they're going to say I'm built bullshit because I try to say that in Brazil. Wow. They wanted to kill me.
I feel like they would love it. The sales are going to rock it.
They wanted to kill me. No, no, no. That's not the purpose. This is health for people to take care of their teeth. Right.
While you're sucking dick, you're also aligning your teeth. You're multitasking. But people don't want to know all that.
They don't do blowjobs. They just were born from pure sand spirit. So everyone is virgin.
Today, I am claiming that this is a great technique. And you can be fixing your teeth while sucking dick. Nothing better.
I wouldn't say that. I'm not a dentist. I'm just saying, if you want to try, you try. If no, it's okay.
Totally. If you already have one, pop it in.
See how it works. Dentists hate me because I said that. In Brazil, they hate me.
Dentists?
They do. Because I said it's good when you use it. But they hate it. They don't like that. I said that.
They're the virgin dentist. They need to fucking relax.
Have you ever been cheated on?
Once. When I was...
19,. 18..
How did you find out?
Online. A fan told me.
Twice.
Twice.
Once, a fan told me. Second one, I pretended it was a fan. Because I actually dreamed about it. I dream about a lot of things that actually happen. So there was this one time.
I went to sleep. This boy, I lend my car to him. He didn't have a car. I lend my car to him. I was already a singer.
I was performing somewhere else. He went to the place. And he... When I went to sleep, I literally went to... Like in my dream, I went to the club he was.
I saw him kissing the girl. He was wearing... The girl was wearing... And it was so clear to me. And I know I have these type of dreams.
So I didn't tell him I dreamed. I said, hi. A fan took a picture and sent me. You were with this girl. You were wearing blah, blah, blah.
She was wearing blah, blah, blah. And then he was desperate. Saying, yeah, I'm sorry. Blah, blah, blah. After months, I told him I dreamed it.
Have you ever got caught cheating?
No. I'm so smart.
I am so smart.
How do you feel about sex on the first date?
I don't care. If I feel like I do. You just be yourself. And if he likes you, amazing. If he doesn't, it's because he's an asshole.
Not that he's an asshole. He doesn't match you. And you just want him because of... You think you need him for something. But you don't.
I love that advice. If you're good with yourself, who gives a fuck? You don't care. It doesn't matter.
There was this one time. This one guy I went on a date after...
I was like, he doesn't want me. Blah, blah, blah. And then, after two weeks, when I was better with my therapy on point, I was like, what the fuck I was doing with that guy? He makes no sense. He kisses terribly.
His kiss.
. I was like, where the fuck did this guy learn to kiss? It was like...
It was a terrible kiss. The sex would be even worse. Why I was caring so much. It's just our fear of being rejected. It has nothing to do with the guy.
We don't even care about the fucking guy.
So true.
It has nothing to do with the fucking person. The person sometimes is shitty. And we're concerned just because we don't want to feel rejected.
I also think a good bit of advice is pretend in your head. Imagine if they were obsessed with you and they wouldn't stop hitting you up. Then now assess. Would you actually like them? If you're coming from a place of like, they don't like me, I want them to like...
That's just the chase and we get addicted.
And then he texted me and I was like, no, thank you.
You kiss like a frog.
I was like, no, today I have my mind, so on point. No, thanks. Some people, you just go with them because your mind is not on point.
And then you wake up one day and it's like, Alleluia, what the fuck?
What I was doing with that person?
It's so crazy too. When you look back and you're like, I can't believe I was fucking obsessed with that guy. He fucking sucked. Sometimes you just need to step away from it. How do you feel about sharing nudes?
I don't do that. You don't? No.
Is it just because you're nervous, because you're a celebrity?
Before, yes. Nowadays, I just think it's... I think it's more sexy when you're wearing panties or something that is almost showing, but it doesn't show. I think it's more sexy. Plays more with the imagination, to be honest.
I love that.
Or like having a hand on it, you know? It's more... Even a picture of a dick, it's not beautiful. Come on. Getting a picture of a dick?
Let's be honest. Let's be honest.
It's not great. You're like, oh, there it is.
It's not hot.
I'd be like.
. I'd be like... I sent an emoji or something. I don't know. I'm like, eh.
That's not it. I don't know. I don't feel anything with that.
What emoji?
The eyes. You know, these two eyes that look like...
That's it.
It kind of doesn't say anything. It's just not to leave the guy unread. I kind of love it, though,
when you're like, hello, and you're like, that's all you get. Do you like sexting?
Sex what?
Texting, sexting.
No. All these things for me are just not... I like the real thing. Come on, come here.
Let's.
Not the sex, sex. I like the little horny talk. But not the sex like, I'm gonna put my dick, put it in your pussy,
I like the little horny thing. You know?
What intimidates you in the bedroom?
What intimidates me? A huge, insanely huge dick trying to put it on my ass. That's very intimidating. When the dick is like, huge! It's so scary.
And it's trying to go in your butthole. It's kind of not good.
Because you're so scared.
This one guy I saw, I was like, okay, I think I'm gonna try here. And then his dick was so big, so big.
And I was like, listen, I'm scared.
And then he said, why? And then he said, this is something I don't think I can handle right now. At this moment of my life, I cannot handle this, I think.
Check back with me in a couple months.
And then we just talked and cuddled. And that was it.
Have you ever had a threesome?
Oh, so many times.
Do you enjoy them?
I do, I think it's cool. I like it, I think it's more, but you have to be very aligned with everyone, you know? And yeah, I have threesomes, four, six, some. Six, some? I had a boyfriend that used to like to switch couples and all.
Do you like the swapping thing? Did you like it?
Yeah, he was very comfortable. And the people, he always let me pick. And it was just fun. It was very cool and respectful and fun.
Did you ever get jealous?
Oh, no, I'm not a jealous person. I'm jealous if I don't feel respected. If I don't feel respected, I'm very, I get not even jealous, I get angry.
I think that people that want to actually do threesomes or foursomes, or orgies or whatever, I think you need to know yourself before you do that. If you're a jealous person,
don't fucking do it.
Know yourself. Sometimes people, I think, do it for their partner. And it's like, if you know your relationship, don't do it just because you think he or she wants to do it.
Yeah, that's a big issue, to be honest.
I was also with guys, but he wouldn't be with a guy, just me. And he was super comfortable with that. He picked it and it was cool. I liked it, to be honest. But he let me feel free with that.
Do you like to use toys in the bedroom?
I do. The guy gotta be confident, though. I know. But I do. Me too.
And that's why I did my line of perfume. When I did that, it was more about, I was doing concerts, and obviously, I'm performing for two hours, and Karnaval is four hours performing nonstop, even seven hours I've done. And when you finish, you don't smell good. So let's just have a real talk. A butthole smells like a butthole.
If you go. in the end of the day, you put your finger in the butthole and you smell it. It smells like a butthole. It's a place that is there, inside, locked in the dark, warm, hot, doing this the whole day.
This is gonna sweat.
It's like under your arms. There's no way. You're gonna sweat. You're gonna smell. It's there inside of your whole clothes.
So I was like, I'm obsessed with smell, right? I was like, I don't like smelling like sweat in my butthole. And then a friend of mine told me, oh, I'm gonna do something for you. And she did this perfume, and I used it, and it was like, I was smelling great, even if I went to the Sahara Desert. And I did a music video there.
It was like 42 degrees Celsius. And it was so hot. I was wearing like a jumpsuit of plastic. I was sweating like crazy. And I was still smelling good.
I was like, you know what? I'm gonna make this like professional. And then I did it. And you just smell amazing. Your pussy and your butthole smell great the whole time.
And then I give it to the guys that I'm with, and they put it in their balls and the dick and the butts too. They smell great. For me, it's such a like, a turn on. I love it. After I got this product, something I always done was like to forget, oh my God, by accident, my panties at the place.
They smell so good. And smells insanely good, like strawberry or whatever, cotton candy. And this guy, obviously, when you leave, guys, pay attention, he will smell the panties. He will smell the panties. He wants to know.
And then he will smell the part that your butthole is on it. And it's not gonna smell like butthole. And it's just heaven. They always come back.
Anita, you're giving us everything we need today. Okay. There's so few people that you can just like have an open conversation like this. Talk about your sexuality,
your sex life.
What do you want people to know about you as an artist and an individual? if they're watching today and they're like new fans? What would you want to say?
I would say definitely what I said here. I think I'm an artist that fights against hypocrisy.
That's the artist I like to be. About everything. Not only sex, but I bring up subjects, which is like talk about my plastic surgery, talk about sex,
and for some reason we live our lives pretending, we don't. And I don't understand what's the type of insecureness or I don't know that make people live in this fake world that just pretend life is this 24-7 glam.
Knowing more about you now and knowing how hands-on you are with your craft. like you are running the show, you're your own manager, you do everything. I really respect you and I cannot wait to see what you do next. I can't wait for the new album and all the things. You deserve, all of it.
So thank you so much for coming on.
Thank you. I loved it. I felt really at home. I hope people like it and I loved meeting you. You have great energy.
You do too.
Love you.
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