Tish and Brandi Cyrus: Disney, Daughters & Divorce [VIDEO]

What is up, daddy gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper. We call her daddy.

Yeah. Cause she'll just keep smoking and keep smoking. And then she gets to a point where she's literally mute. And I'm going to need a little water. The water is next to you.

than mute on the podcast. Give us all the giggles, Tish. Give us the vibes. She's taking off the shoes. She's getting comfy.

I don't know if you are. This is what she does. She like tells the juiciest stories and then she'll go home late at night, get high, be isolated and get paranoid and be like, cut it all. Cut it, cut it, cut it. I'm like, we can't.

Like, leave it. I did that last night. Tish, I'm going to have to call you after and be like,

no, Tish, we can't cut that. And then I feel like I'm going to get on the phone with you, Brandi, because you're going to be like, no, it's hilarious. Keep it. She's just high. She's just high.

You want me to go first? You go first. I mean, I just feel like there's a role reversal here, that it's been this way for a very long time where, like somehow, I'm the parent.

Okay. But let's, okay. Except if like, except if it's like, really like something serious. Oh, like what?

Yeah. Yeah. I would say like when Noah, cause she's the youngest, when Noah moved out of the house and you became a little empty nester, she just really decided. Go crazy. She was going crazy.

I mean, I had five kids. Right. It was a lot. You were busy. I was busy.

it wasn't just like, I mean, like I was in it. So you weren't the mean girls, mom vibe? No.

absolutely not to that. I feel like your cheer mom kind of came out a little bit. Yes. Cause me and Miley did Noah cheer. Yes.

I was a big cheer mom. What does a cheer mom look like? Like, what is that? What do you act like?

I think you, just like, I'm like my girl's hair needs to be bigger. The makeup needs to be more and they need to be shaking. The skirts need to be shorter. The skirt needs to be super short. Oh yeah.

mom. Yeah. I could so see that now that you're describing it, but I'm also like just getting to know you, but like the personality is there on both of you, but it is interesting to say, like, yeah, Brandy, you're more like mom, tone it down. And Tish is like,

and I was not like that. Okay. I feel like you were as a teenager. Okay. Then you pulled it together, and now we're, we're back.

of shit. Yeah. We talk constantly, every day, all the time. Like besties. I feel like you guys have.

the best girl talk sessions. Like I'm jealous. Like you guys have, you guys can sit there for.

hours. I feel like, oh yeah. Hours. And it's always going to be juicy. when they, her and Molly, I see them coming in hot together.

cause. I live in Nashville, so we'll get all get on FaceTime, like the three of us. And Miley's like, so what's the tea? And I'm like, well, what do you got? I need something piping.

the family tea, you know, like, can you guys just give me and you let's go through the family tree, just so someone listening that may be new here to the Cyrus family, oldest to youngest sibling go.

Yes. Brandy, Trace, Molly, Brazen, Noah. Oh, my God. Slow down. Okay.

here's the thing. I was the oldest or I was the first one. So, like they were just stricter with me. You know, I was expected to get straight A's and I was expected to go get a job at 15.. And I was just expected to do all these extracurriculars, which I did.

like Noah, got to do whatever she wanted. As an oldest child. I'm so curious. Cause I'm the youngest. Do you get resentful of that factor of like, what the hell?

to run around? I did when I was younger, for sure. Like I remember, kind of when Miley was going to the stage of like first boyfriends and stuff, like. I got in so much trouble. She took my car away because I was like seeing a guy she don't want me to see at 16, 17..

and they were like, we were making out on a trampoline. Okay. Well, what'd you catch Miley doing? Miley got away with a lot. Let's just leave it at that.

would have just been, well, I'm moving out. It's also hard. I feel like, cause. I have an older sister and like, she had to get a phone with like, she'd got a phone in like high school. I got one in seventh grade.

with shit. And you're like, mom, what the hell? It's okay. Because I turned out great. So we're okay with it.

you have that like older sister energy. Do your siblings treat you like older sister energy?

Oh, yeah. Like if there's ever, if anyone is in trouble, I'm the one they call over your mom. Yeah. It depends on what it is. Sometimes, sometimes, sometimes if there's like a PR.

crisis, who's getting called? probably if there's like a heartbreak, who's getting called you. Yeah.

Brandy. Maybe both. Probably both. She'll call you and probably not get the thing she wants to hear from you. Then she'll call me.

hear what they want. So that's exactly how it works. I feel like that's actually very relatable of like parent to sibling dynamics, of like, mom didn't give me what I need. So peace the fuck out. I'm going to just pretend.

have you always been a stoner? I did not smoke pot until I was like,

were like awake and not on something like Ambien. Oh my God. Okay. Which led me to- Drugs. It did.

So then, while we were on tour, I could not sleep on the bus. Because you were so anxious. So I got Ambien and it made me feel so bad. And Molly was like, mom, if you would just smoke weed, that's how it started. And I started smoking to go to sleep.

because now she's sober. Now she's sober and you're still kicking. Oh, my God. No, I'm thinking about it too, because I'm like, Brandy, you don't smoke. Again, very on brand.

she will, Miley would say this is like at that time, it really, truly honestly, was Salvia, which is completely legal and you can buy at the grocery store. Right, right, right, right. Oh, I do remember that. And it wasn't even weed. It truly, absolutely was Salvia.

about it. Cause all of your lives changed, obviously. And, Brandy, I want to hear from you a little bit of like, you guys lived in Nashville. And then, when Miley got Hannah Montana, you all moved to LA. from your experience.

the rest of them, because I had just graduated high school and I had already applied and gotten into college in Tennessee. And I did that to be close to home. And so I'm going to college 30 minutes from the house and they're all moving to LA. But, like, I was committed. So I had to go.

The homesick feeling was like, your whole family had moved somewhere that like, yeah, you hadn't been, but it doesn't matter where they are. You were just like, I want to go see my family. And it must have been weird, because, like it, that is when all that started to blow up and the show got so big. So, like, did you feel, did you have FOMO at all?

Um, I wouldn't say FOMO necessarily. I think it was just such a hard time, like a hard age for me, like that time of like, you're supposed to know what you're, what you want to do with your life. And I didn't really, and just kind of being in the environment. I went to MTSU and in Tennessee, it's just a huge school. Um, and I just didn't really have much direction.

Obviously, like you guys have a very interesting family dynamic because, like, I feel, like a lot of times in a family, there's like one person that gets famous and there's your whole family is famous essentially. And I think back to those original Hannah Montana days where, like your, Billy Ray and Miley were playing a father daughter dynamic. And I'm curious, like, did you guys have any concept that from that people would become so fascinated with your entire family off?

of a TV show? There was no way to, to know that. Cause even like, and again, for me, I think it was a little different because I am the oldest, like I was very aware of my dad's fame as a kid. And I think differently than, like, you know, Noah or anybody would be. And so I understood like, to me, like the attention wasn't foreign.

it kind of was, it felt like almost how achy breaky heart felt to us. And, like, you know, when they were that age, it was such a phenomenon. And then so Hannah Montana came and it, it became its own phenomenon, you know? And so it was like seeing that twice was really crazy, even though you only really saw that, like, you know, Miley, and had never experienced that as.

much. Do you guys remember a moment where you were like, Oh, our entire family's life has changed. Like, is there like a turning point or like an event, or like something in media that?

happened? The only time, and it wasn't as much about the family is it was Miley and we, Miley and I had gone to the mall and it's like, what a time. And honestly, I think we were in Victoria's Secret and I think she was 12.. So love it. You know what?

in a big way. Of course. I remember reading, it was like a GQ article and it was at the end of then Hannah Montana. And Billy Ray came out and said that the show destroyed your family. And I'm curious, like, did you guys feel that way?

I mean, the family's not destroyed. Yeah. First of all. Exactly. We're doing great.

no, not at all. No, I just think he was having a moment, because I mean, it was, I'm trying to be politically correct. And I don't want to call you to not freaking out. I don't want you to call me either, Tish. Please pick your words.

Haley's cringing right now. Okay, girl. I just woke up. Did I say this? And I'm like, no.

I mean, he had done Achy Breaky and nothing else was working. And then I brought Molly out to audition for Hannah and she had gotten it. And then one of the casting directors said a joke, like, too bad, we can't afford her real dad. And I said, oh, maybe you can, because we had just been in Toronto living because he had done another show in Toronto. And so we all had to go back and forth and it was really hard on the kids.

but our family could be together. Okay. This helps so much because I think, like something I was going to ask you is like, obviously you have five kids and this is such a big family, and like fame or not, I think no matter what, everyone that has siblings, there's going to always be the kid, whether it's because, like there's a problem or a success, like that's getting more attention than other children at one point, which is really fucking hard for the other kids. How did you navigate, being a manager, riding this crazy wave with one of your children while you also had four?

other children that needed you? I look back on it now and I honestly don't know how I did it. And up until literally, I don't know if you know, but I just got married.

She loves to bring this up. A flick of the hair. Like, I don't know if you know, babe. Honestly,

he is just everything. And he made me realize, like what I did is badass. And he's like, because, honestly, he's asked me that question when we first got together. And it's like, and now, like, you look back and then when one of the kids are mad at me, it's like, well, you took me out of school, or you didn't, you know, of course. And I'm like, well, yes.

I didn't know that part of the story. That's why I asked. Cause I was like, did some of the kids stay somewhere else? And like, did you just go be with her? Like any dynamic can create resentment between children and their parent and how they decide to make situations work.

Yeah. I mean, I was what, 19,, I guess, when Hannah Montana started to explode. So I was an adult, technically, you know? And so I feel like I'm always super grateful that even when my, even though my dad was so famous, like I had really good friends all my whole life. Like I was really able to make great friends.

you saying that. Cause like as a young kid, of course you're like, oh, fuck this at times. Cause you're like, I'm my own self. Like, my name is Brandy. It's like, you know, it's like, it's not my dad or my sister.

that I didn't look at myself until I met Dom, who's just such a build me up person, for, even for me, like I have a production company called Hopetown Entertainment that I love and it's used to frustrate me so bad, because the reason I love it so much is because I'm so creative. And, like with Miley, like she gets to be the creative and I just have to make it work for her and figure out how to make what she wants to do work. And I feel like that's kind of been my job for a long time. So with Hopetown, like it's mine. I get to be the creative.

It's like put your kids first every time, let them be this. And then it feels like from what you're saying, finally, you've now kind of been empty, nested to be like, what does Tish want? And how can I start? And it feels like, but this happens to every family. Like it feels like you now are so settled.

insane. What the fuck are we supposed to do? And that's what I'm always like, like when Noah or Brayden or somebody is like upset with me because, well, I didn't get to go to normal school. I'm like, guys, like you. just don't understand, like the storm we were in.

bonkers and I did the best I could. And, like you said, it's so fascinating. Like you kind of did, you didn't have a playbook of how to make it right, but you did see from other certain young kids in the industry, how South it can go so fast. It was all around me. Crazy.

And I, just like, it, just broke my heart for those kids for real. And I was just like, that is not going to be me. And that is not going to be my kid. Okay. We're going to play a little game because I.

want to get to know you guys even more. Tish is like, I'm going to smoke more. Here we go. Okay. Rapid fire.

fight? You or Brandy?

a problem with authority. But, like, I, will pick a fight. You'll go off. If somebody tries to tell me what to do.

a little bit of that energy from you, Tish of just like, fuck you. It's like the airport police.

I'm like, you suck. And you have no authority over me. They're like, ma'am, we're just trying.

to make sure that no one gets on with a bomb. Don't freaking, try to do this and tell me how to.

drive. I'm serious. I'm obsessed. Okay. That was a good first one.

about it. She was so strict. Also, we've talked about this. I'm sorry, we're stoned. Sex was like, don't do it ever.

And like first, first person I ever had sex with. Can you believe this? And got pregnant with her.

Yes. And, but I'm like, look how great it turned out. But when I was a, when I was a teenager, it was, you can't have sex ever. Yes. Or this will happen.

marriage. Just like not ever. Don't you think that's a thing, though? If, like someone, has a child young, it just, you get anxious for them because you lived it and you just want to be like, just be careful. But you're right.

like seriously. When I was 17,, I did date a guy that had just gotten out of rehab for a cocaine addiction. And she wasn't thrilled with that, even though I met him at church camp and I had, I had to like quite a bit about seeing him. She did. It's always the church camp boys.

true. Would you have ever told your mom when you lost your virginity? No, I didn't.

Well, she, we had to tell her this story last time we recorded this podcast.

Were you mortified? Yes. Just because I despised him.

There's always those boyfriends. I have one. My mother is like, when I hear his name to this day, I hate him. I'm like, mom, it's been like 20 years. We moms hold grudges.

skeletons in the closet during your menopause stage. I don't know about it. I don't know. It was a dark, it was a dark time. Oh, you went wild.

Yeah, there could be. Oh my God. Did the dynamic become like, you and Miley are like, we can't tell Brandy. We can't tell Brandy. For sure.

kind of around the same time. We lied to her a lot about boys going to hang out with the Jonas.

Brothers. That was kind of like, wait, tell that story. It's a good one. Tell it. Okay.

forget. We were at some like Disney charity event or something. Do you remember this? when she met Nick? Oh yeah.

And it was just such a great time. It was. Until, it wasn't. Until, it wasn't. Until, it wasn't.

it broke everyone's heart in the world. Until it freaking wasn't. That is so funny that you just found this out. Yeah. Oh yeah.

they opened. Because it was the Hannah Montana tour. So it was, yeah. It was like, wasn't it the Hannah and Miley when she did both and they played in the middle? Oh my God.

was Meet Miley Cyrus, I think. And I remember, I was like, I don't care about these boys. Get off the stage. I just want to watch Miley and Hannah. I remember I went to one of the concerts and my dad was like, I bet those boys will be big one day.

What? What were you gonna do? She just loves to have things to say. Okay, Tish, if you had to.

set Brandi up with any celebrity, who would it be and why? Oh, wait, wait, hold on. This is good.

If I could set Brandi up with any celebrity, who would it be and why?

old is John? Is that too old? No, I don't think so. Okay, but why John? Explain his personality.

I just feel like he's never found the right person. And I just don't think Brandi's ever found the right person. And he's much older, but I mean, 36.. She's going to be 37.. Well, we need to keep it moving.

think I met him one time at a Molly concert. Me too. Maybe by the time this is announced and this.

comes out, you'll go on a date. I mean, why not? I'll go on a date. I'm all about going on a date. But I don't date regularly, because how am I supposed to meet somebody?

Your mother is in the corner over here getting so excited. She literally doesn't know anything.

I have a feeling about it. Next week, it'll be somebody else, though. She does this. I have a.

feeling about it. So true. So true. She does this. Yeah.

about the DMs. Okay. So what? Forget it. Let's keep moving.

doing some type of campaign for like- No, but should I? I think maybe I should. You're the new.

face of Christian Mingle. Yeah. Definitely not that. Because you know what? I do.

Yeah, we got to cut it back, Tish. Well, I think that that's the old way of thinking.

Okay. So she's basically saying slide into John's DMs tonight. Yeah. You know what? I've done that.

a couple of times and I always- To him? No, not to him. But just in general, I've DMed guys. There's something about it that feels cringy to me and I can't get past it. And I know that's.

frustrating because, look at Kelsey. I get it. I think what you could also do, though, is if it's a DM reply to a story, I think that can make it more organic. Or I think sometimes you can acknowledge the cringiness and be like, is there anything more cringe than sliding in? But I did want to, so hi, it's me.

It gives me the.

clothes. Oh no. That may be the one. She hates. it.

like her dirty fingernails, drove me crazy. The ick from a mother herself. I love it. I love the honesty. Okay.

What?

like bury me in it. She loves it. I'm not living without it. Like ever. I just, I don't know.

did you recently get the weave? Was it recent or you got it? Girl, I've had them like years. And you just don't like the hair. So I had them out not long ago.

It was, I just put them back in. recently. I had most of them out and it drives her crazy. I just,

I'm a long haired girl. It looks really good on you. I will say, give her a break. She looks hot. Yeah.

wants to see your beautiful face. That's what he says. You have such a long, beautiful neck,

darling. You need to show it off. He's so sweet. He's the sweetest. Okay.

But the first part of that is, is the two years that he, he went to Tennessee. He went to Tennessee during COVID. And I need to be here. I mean, like Molly and Noah are young. They're like, they need me.

during COVID. And what's so crazy about all this is like, you have never, you had never been the kind of person that would have ever said like, I enjoy my alone time or I enjoy being like, she never thought she would be okay alone. I love being alone. Greatest thing ever. And she's like, I just could never feel that way.

transformative. It was hugely transformative. I also feel like what you're saying is what so many women definitely specifically experience of like ending some type of relationship, you don't know what's on the other side. And so you're so terrified that you almost stay in something that can be so detrimental to your health in moments or just like, isn't the right fit. Like it can run the gamut of like, whether it's borderline, like crazy, abusive, or it's literally just like, we're not a right match, but you stay.

oh my gosh, I actually feel lighter. And it was crazy. Cause. also, during COVID, my mom passed away. And I mean, my mom is the only reason she's normal.

Cause it all because of the fear of being alone or like all of it.

I don't have my mom. And then I don't have my husband, that I've been my husband for 30 years. Like, holy crap. Like I'm scared.

When you look back, cause, like when you do see that, like in 2010 and then 2013,, there were like potential filings. Like, do you wish you had walked away sooner?

Yes. But then I'm like, maybe that wouldn't have been right either. Like, because I really didn't want Noah to still be young and like, but looking back on it, it would have been better for her had I, had I left. It would have been much better.

Yeah. Brandy, how would you have described your parents' relationship growing up?

As a child, you guys were so in love. Like they were so touchy and so lovey and making out in the kitchen. And I mean, I have great memories of, of them together as a kid. But then I think, once I turned into an adult and kind of saw it from a different perspective, a lot of it changed. And it's tough.

like I just did, I would, I just would never have wanted to get a divorce. Yeah. Like, because my, here I go. My mom and dad met on a Monday and got married on a Friday at a gas station with the justice of the peace. And they were married for 30 years until my dad passed away.

just like really freaking hard. Well, it's also so hard because what you're explaining, too, is like, it wasn't just about you and Billy's dynamic. It was like the whole family. It's like, this isn't just a decision about like you and a romantic partner. This is about like children and this like lifestyle that you created and this bond.

say anything? I have like all, I bury everything, which is not one of my finer traits, and I've gotten better, but like, I would never want to cause conflict ever. You know what I mean? So I would definitely like, and I felt like I never, like firsthand, saw anything go down by any means. So that, you know, otherwise maybe that would have changed things.

for a long time. Tish, how did you like change yourself to make that marriage work?

Oh, my God. How long you got? She's like, where I got? I gotta do it again. We need a three-parter.

How long do you think you stopped playing the part?

Before the divorce filings. You know, probably mid-quarantine? Mid-quarantine.

Maybe a quarter of the way into quarantine?

Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep.

Like you, just stopped putting up with stuff?

And just go looking at myself being like, what in the heck are you doing? You know? And so.

I mean, no, you seem so happy and sitting here, as we're like joking about Brandy, be like, oh, who should we set you up with? I am curious, like from this experience, clearly we all learn so much from relationships.

Disrespect. In every form.

It is wild when you get into a new relationship and you're like, you look back, you're like, what the fuck?

What was I doing? Hello. Dr. Eamon says when they show you who they are, believe them. And I'm like, damn.

Eamon, where were you on the side of Hannah Montana?

Seriously.

We could have used you as like the production psychologist.

Yeah, I'm serious.

You know what? It is a beautiful message because of how many young women listen to this podcast of like, you're so right, Tisha. It's like, they show you. And we try to look away because we want it to work. We're afraid of being alone.

And I did not believe that. And everybody kept telling me, like, mom, like, why would you be alone? You'd only be alone if you choose to be. And I would be like, I just don't believe that. I'm old.

I've got. every male friend of mine is, was lined up ready to take you out. I'm serious.

Who wouldn't be? Girl.

She's all, I don't want somebody younger.

Look at those extensions.

She's so nuts. Okay. But like, but like, truly, it's funny, because she was, you know, so thinking, oh, I'm just gonna be alone for the rest of forever. Like, there's no one else. Yeah.

That was how it happened. Truly.

It's, it is so crazy, though. How, when you are in something that, like, doesn't make you feel good. Your, your self-worth just completely dissipates. You're like, where, who am I?

It's, it's not okay.

It's so sad.

That's so sad.

But I'm so happy that you've now like rebuilt to a different place. And, like, you, have a bond with your children and life goes on. Yep. You know what I mean? Like, here you are.

It's all you can do. Like, and my relationships, and, you know, that's what matters.

Without getting too much into it, because I feel like I do have a lot of just people that would be fascinated from your personal experience of like. advice is like, when you have a big family, everyone's going to have their own opinions on everything. Yep. Like, how do you navigate when, just like people in your family are on different pages? Like as the mother, how do you navigate, like keeping it all chill?

So used to, Dr. Raymond's getting some flak.

Literally, like if the siblings, if any of us are fighting, she's like, y'all are on your own.

That's what I do now. I'm like, I'm just over here doing me. And if you like it, great. And if you don't, that's okay, too.

Has that completely changed the dynamic of your family, Brandy? Yeah.

I mean, it's okay.

Yeah, it's actually pretty good.

It's working out pretty good. It's pretty good. I think. at first it was just shock, you know, like, if one of us goes to her and is like, so-and-so did this, expecting her to like, fix it. She's like, oh, sorry.

I'm like, gotta smoke it up.

Right? You're kind of just relinquishing, like, all control. Like, you're all adults. Totally. Do what you want to do.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, my God.

Like, there was a Christmas and we were all in Nashville and all of us were arguing about something stupid.

Of course.

And she stays at my house in Nashville. So I like went back to the house, like, trying to explain to her, like, everyone's fighting. What do we do? And she's up there just smoking weed. She's like, I don't know.

Brandy was like, mom, I think actually someone's calling the police.

Mom, I think you should step in. She's like, nah.

Yep.

She's like, yes, let the police come, handle it, so I don't have to come down. I can just get baked up here by myself.

Because in the past, like, she would care so much. Oh, yeah. It was Christmas, and, like, that would mean so much to her. And she was like, mm-mm, y'all work it out.

It's kind of, like, beautiful.

Oh, I love it. Whoever's still here on Christmas Day, great. If they're not, whatever.

Like, see ya. Peace. Yep.

I'm picturing you up there just, like, so chill. Face mask on.

Like, yep. Music blaring.

Oh, yeah. Fuck off.

Yes. Wow.

Yep. Okay.

Talk to me about Dominic. Obviously, the way that you speak about him is... I mean, also, congrats to both of you, because you're so gorgeous. He's so gorgeous. It makes sense.

Girl!

Girl. We all did. Girl!

When I saw that show, I was so obsessed with him. Truly in the least creepy way. Okay, no.

But between him and Wentworth, were you a dom?

100% a dom. Hilarious.

Miley and I were Wentworth girlies. Really?

I was like, no, he is freaking dangerous.

So you watched that and you just said, fuck it, I'm DMing him?

Okay, so, weirdly, probably during my out of it stage, we were all watching prison break. Yeah.

Maybe a little post.

Maybe a little post. But anyway, I would always say Dom's, my hall pass. Always.

Water, please.

She's gone and left. Give her more. Give her more.

At some point, you followed him on Instagram is where we're going with this.

Did I? Oh, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. She's too stoned.

But anyway, this was just like, whatever. And so in 2016,. Dom DMed me. Yes.

What?

And I had followed him on Instagram and he DMed me and just said, hey, Tish, just wanted to thank you. I think you're super cool. Like, you're doing such a great job with your family and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like...

Yeah, she can't work on Instagram.

So me and Brandy, or she.

I had your phone and.

Or something happened that I realized, like, I wasn't following him anymore. And so Brandy looked and she was like, oh, no. Oh, he must not have Instagram anymore. And she goes, oh, no.

So I looked and I was like, no, he has it.

You're just blocked.

So she's been blocked. What? From Dom's Instagram. What?

X.

Oh, shit. Yes.

Had seen, he hit me up and blocked me from his Instagram. I almost peed my pants. Because I was like, why does he even know who I... Like, why am I blocked? Like, he doesn't even know, like, I exist.

Look at the way she's holding her microphone.

Because you know what? I think. I hit my tooth. with it. I mean...

Well, those were expensive. There's a cushion.

I know. I was thinking... I didn't hurt it.

No, no, it's good. It's good.

I don't want to have to pay for these things again.

I feel you. It looked great. It looked great.

I was just thinking.

She's too stoned. You're still stoned?

I love it.

What are these called? Plug and play? Oh, a puff.

But anyway, so.

Where was I?

So you're blocked.

You're blocked, bitch.

I'm freaking blocked. So that was 2017 and I didn't ever think about it again. I was with my friend on FaceTime and I was having some plug and play. And she was drinking wine and she goes, Okay, because I was doing the, I'm going to be alone forever. And she was like, You're a catch out of anyone.

And she's like,

Yes, because I told her about the 2016 thing. She was unblocked.

But you weren't blocked anymore? He unblocked you.

I got unblocked. So I literally text him. And I actually do have a production deal at NBCU.

There's some credibility to this.

I do have that. And so I sent him a little DM and said, Hey, Dom. Like we were friends. And I was like, Hey, Dom. I have a deal at NBCU.

Genius.

Genius.

I'm not talking three seconds later. Ding. Hey, Tish. Because I said, I don't know if you're in LA or Australia. And he said, Yeah, Tish.

How is this real?

How is this real? And so we go to lunch and make out for like three hours at a pub in like a little hole in the wall. Like I walked in and touched his arm and said, Hey, Dom. And that was it. And then we were like out back having a few little drinks.

The minute you met him, did you know kind of?

Yes.

It was just right.

He said literally that when his phone dinged, he knew it was not about a show. And he said, I looked at my phone and out loud go, it's on.

I just got fucking chills.

Seriously.

You are so good.

And honestly, I was looking good. We're going to post it. And I just liked it. And I was like, Hey, Dom.

And the rest is history.

How long did you date of like, like, did it move fast?

Yeah. The next day he was just like, yeah, I love you. And I was like, I love you too.

And I, me, the parent, I'm over here. Like, no. I was so against that.

I mean, it was just on.

Stop. Yeah. Randy's like, no, no, mom, mom, mom. And you're like, I'm in love.

I'm like, we don't know this guy. She's like, yes, I do watch prison break. And I'm like, listen, love it. He's gorge. I'm sure he's great.

Yes, but you didn't know. So, did you know you wanted to get remarried? Like, was that something you were interested in?

I just did not think that was possible for me. Yeah. I truly did not believe that.

Yeah.

And, and that's just another result of, cause now I look at myself and go, you know what? I think I'm pretty nice.

He's done wonders for her confidence. He's done that.

He has. I'm obsessed.

Because it's so crazy for somebody so gorgeous and so fucking smart and like has all the things. she has the lowest self-confidence, like since I can remember. And he really has done wonders as far as like building her confidence in great ways.

I'm so happy for you because, as I'm sitting here listening to you and obviously, Brandi, you've been through your whole life with your mother, but as I'm sitting here, I'm like, I want your confidence. Like, and to know. this is a recent thing that's been built back up for so many years of being disrespected, not feeling seen, feeling like you have to kind of be the last person that has a say, or you can't really like, put yourself first ever.

Holy shit. And you know what? Like, yeah, I just fuck a completely different person. And honestly, I don't want to hear people online going, well, I don't need a man to make me. Well, okay.

She is nuts. That's how I feel.

And you know what? I am living my best life, and he is yummy.

She loves to talk about Dom, if you can't tell.

Are your kids like shut the fuck up? or do most of you, like, are you okay with it?

I mean, it's cute for two seconds and then we, it's like, we're like, okay.

He loves me so much.

What has he taught you about love?

Oh, my God. Like, I don't even think I really, like, I did know what love was because I saw my mom and dad and I never, ever saw them disrespect one another ever. Like. they really didn't fight at all, which is so weird. So rare.

Do you have anxiety?

Mine is I'm a complete hypochondriac.

Yeah. And I feel like everybody else, all the other siblings have it too.

Kind of. Yeah.

Everyone, you're the only one without anxiety.

We do have it. Weird.

I mean, it was weird though. Yeah.

I need to make stickers that says find someone that loves you. Like Dom, loves Tish and Tish loves Dom.

That is absolute merch that you should wear every day. We don't know if anyone would buy it, but we know you would buy it and Dom would buy it. No, it just seems like he makes you feel like it's a real partnership.

Totally.

That's amazing. When you look at your mother now, like, do you feel like there's a lot of what has happened in the past with her previous relationship has just like been repaired? Like she's just at a different place.

I do. Yeah. And I think, like, there will always be work to do in the sense of like, it's not ever, the past is never going to go away. Right. And I think it's totally normal for, like you to have bad days and stuff come back up, you know, um, and that's going to happen here and there.

Yeah. I'm sorry. I got to say one more thing about my baby.