Javier Bardem

Fall is here, hear the yell, back to school, ring the bell, brand new shoes, walk in blues, climb the fence, books and pens. I can tell that we are gonna be friends.

Yes, I can tell that we are gonna be friends. Hey there, welcome to Conan. O'Brien needs a friend. Joined today, as I always am, by the lovely and talented Matt Gorillazian. What'd you say? Nothing, No, no, no.

I said, Talented? Oh yeah, let's try it again. Yeah, I got off to the wrong start.

Here we go, Talented is not what I would use to describe myself. Here we go. Hey there, welcome to Conan. O'Brien needs a friend, One of the best podcasts that we've ever made. Joined by Sona Mobsassian. How are you, Sona?

Good, this is, you know, the best podcast I've ever been in. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We've won several prestigious awards, you know, have we? I think so, have we? We have right.

Yeah, yeah, okay, cool, yeah, that's cool.

Yeah, I don't know, I haven't seen the actual statues, I haven't either. Yeah, I don't.

I think it was a prank. And also joined by Matt Gorley, How are you? Matt? I'm good. How are you?

I'm very well, thank you. What is that? Why do I not look well? Well, usually? By now, you've insulted me, so.

Oh, I don't insult you a lot, that's a bit, you know, that I'm a really good guy to you. In our off-mic time, all the times I've taken you out fishing.

What off-mic time, dad, you're kidding me with fish and the cats in the cradle and the silver spoon. Yeah, I'm feeling good and, you know, I want to bring up something.

Sona sent me this terrifying video the other day, absolutely terrifying of the moment that her life changed for the worse. Oh shit, she sent me a video and I guess your twins Mikey and Charlie. They're in side-by-side cribs. You have always put them to bed at night, and then you wake up in the morning and they're right there in side-by-side cribs. And you woke up one morning and they were both in the same crib, and you went and you checked the night camera.

And you sent me this video and it's Charlie, and you can see it's when in. Like a Planet of the Apes movie, where the ape learns how to make fire, or the ape learns how to log on to a computer. Yeah, 2001. You can see this moment where Charlie's probably, as he has for months now, he's kind of struggling, and he's kind of struggling.

And then he kind of, he's almost there, and then he gets up, he's pulling himself up, and he gets kind of to the top. And then you see, he has this look in his eye and he just dives on his brother. And you hear, and they both start shrieking and pounding each other, and you realize your life is over, it's over.

Was Mikey asleep? No, Mikey was awake. He was like, basically cheering his brother on. Then when Charlie did it, Mikey's like, Oh, shit, we can do this. So now they're both climbing not just into each other's cribs, they're just climbing out of their cribs.

How do they get out the other side without falling?

And by the end, they're putting it into a brass cylinder and they fire off a howitzer. No, but I mean, they're, you're screwed. They're evolving. I know, I know.

I'm screwed. And now they, like, in the morning, they'll just jump out of their crib, They know how to open the doors, They'll like, run into our room. Did you ever hear the car start?

You're lying in bed thinking, Well, they're probably going to watch cartoons.

Into reverse, peels out your credit card's missing. Oh, no, it's only a matter of time.

It's awful, I don't know what to do. People are like, you could put a canopy over the crib, but then I just feel like they're in a cage. Don't fight it, don't fight it.

Or maybe you're onto something, cage them.

Yeah, feral, No, you know, it's funny because we have we have dogs and cats, but we have one dog that's just hyper and he likes it. We learned a long time ago he would rather at night sleep in a crate.

He just kind of prefers it, so we'd put him in this crate. This is you you're talking about. Yeah, okay.

No, our dog. Okay, oh right. So we put him in this crate. And then he figured out recently because he wakes up at five and he wants to party down. And it is a really complicated system of like a latch.

That's very complicated. I have trouble working it and I'm always like, I think I okay there. I think I've unlocked it correctly, now, I've locked it correctly. He figured out recently how to unlock the cage.

And so at five in the morning, he'll pound on the door with his head and then push the door open and come in. And he's like, What are we doing, what's the plan? It's crazy, he waits till five.

Yeah, he, it's always five or 530, and I'm saying, now we have to weld it shut every night. Because I think if we we thought about using like garbage ties, but I think he would. You'd just see paws untying them, and then he'd probably know where he could return them or recycle them. If people want to escape, they're just going to escape.

I mean, we had a hamster that escaped for like two weeks and it was somewhere in our house and we couldn't find him for two weeks. Did you? Was he dead when you did? No, we found him. He was just living his life outside of his cage. Wait a minute.

How did he live? All that time? He was eating just random shit that he would find. Did you notice that he had his own profile on your television, his own Netflix account? He had his own Netflix account? And it just it had a little emoji of a of a hamster.

Who's watching these romances?

Who's watching human romances? Yeah, he's watching human romances, who's watching all these Bridgertons?

All the Fifty Shades movies and all the Fifty Shades movies, and your hamster's just up at night watch, he keeps pulling out.

It's a highly erotic scene for hamsters. in fact, some people think a hamster can go up there and it's quite pleasurable.

Mrs. Eiffel Tower.

The Angry Pirate, that's my favorite. Okay, listen, sorry, we can't go back there. I have to get this out.

You did that. I have to get this out really quickly. Which is cause we brought up I brought up a hamster. Maybe as a sexual deviant act, an act of sexual deviance, anyway. Okay, you know, there was that rumor about Richard Gere.

Yeah, sure, from years and years ago, that Richard Gere enjoyed having a hamster placed in his bottom. A gerbil. Oh, it was a Gerbil. Yeah, it was a Gerbil.

Sorry, there's a big difference is there, I don't know. Hey, guess what?

I'm just kidding, I'm telling you, they feel the same to me.

But anyway, there was this rumor that, you know that, okay, Richard Gere had done that. And then flash forward to it's 1993, I think, and I'm doing my late night show. And it's those early days when it was really kooky. And it's always off the rails every night and we might get canceled any second.

And the guest that night was Mickey Rooney, who was, as we all know, the biggest movie star in 1940.

And he now, at this point, he's like 85 years old and he's pretty kooky and out there. And he's come on and he's Mickey Rooney, and he's telling stories about 1940. I was the biggest star in the world.

And he's telling all these old show business anecdotes and he's there. And then, at one point, he starts talking about a movie he had just seen. I forget which one it was, if it was Chicago or something, and he went. And it has that actor in it.

What's his name he was in? And we're trying to figure out. Andy and I are there, and this is actual footage exists of this somewhere. But Andy and I are trying to help him figure out who the actor is. And he went, It was this actor.

And we were kind of honing in on who it might be, but we hadn't said yet. And we went, Really, what was it? was it? And all of a sudden, Mickey Rooney says, Ah, yes, there was talk of gerbils.

And the whole crowd gasped, and I like, put my head on the desk and Andy Richter loses it. There was talk of Gerbils, and I swear to God, every now and then I wake up in the middle of the night and I just think there was talk of Gerbils, he says. It in such a creepy like they say, the headless horseman was never found again.

But he's talking about Gerbils going up Richard Gere's ass. Who was that actor? Who was he? I don't know, I don't know who it was.

I'm trying to think, Mr. Rooney, wait a minute. There was talk of Gerbils, guess what?

This is going to be the new catechist, that's why you want people to yell at you on the street. When I walk around anywhere in the world, in the world, I mean, this happened to me in Thailand recently, people yell catechist, well, guess what?

We're switching it up. There was talk of gerbils, you've heard it here. That's the new phrase. Catechist is no longer active.

You'll get no benefits from that. Only there was talk of Gerbils, there was talk of Gerbils. Let's move on to a very esteemed guest. Oh no, he deserves better.

He deserves so much better. Oh my God, my guest today is an Academy award-winning actor. So exciting. There was talk of Gerbils.

I love how we drag everyone down into the mud with us. My guest today is an Academy award-winning actor who has started his films as No Country for Old Men, Skyfall and Vicky Christina Barcelona. Now, you can see him in Disney's live-action remake of The Little Mermaid in theaters May 26th. I am absolutely thrilled he's here today.

It is great, maybe the greatest honor of your life. I haven't done any research. I don't know if you've won any awards of any kind. I've heard talk of an Oscar, but who knows?

Those things can't be verified. Yeah, who cares, who cares? This is the true honor of your life.

And the whole crowd would go crazy because they're like, Yes, Javier, get him, get him. He's like, What is this? what are you doing, man? what are you doing? It was fantastic.

I would laugh so hard that on the way to the podcast studio today, thinking about seeing Javier again, I was laughing, thinking about it.

Okay, I figured. And then, of course, there was always disappointment and crying. I was crying often, but you're here now, it is so great to have you here.

And we have to get a few things out of the way because we have some major insane fans in the room. My friend here, Matt and I'm going to bring this up right now, is obsessed with James Bond movies. All right, and I agree with him, he maintains, and I will back him up on this. We both believe that you may be, if not the best, one of the greatest.

I don't think there's even a question, frankly. Best Bond villain. Oh wow, Best Bond villain, and your performance in Skyfall was so freaking, insanely good.

And I had all this mixture of qualities where there were times where I really, you sucked me in and then I felt sorry for you. But then I hated you. And it just kept swirling around. What about you, Matt? Well, even just now, when you said that everything led up to this moment is very much like what Silva says for James Bond. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Frankly, I almost fainted, Yeah.

It's funny, you always wonder how planned out was a moment like that, because it's such. You haven't seen that happen with James Bond. And it's this move that's crossing all kinds of lines. It's so shocking. And I think, is that the kind of thing that's discussed beforehand?

Or can you just go for it with Daniel Craig?

And Daniel is the best partner ever. He was having a blast. He really wanted to go as far as we could, as far as the studio will let us go.

And I think the chemistry was there because we liked being with each other and playing with each other. But I think Sam Mendes was the heart of the and the heart and soul of the whole thing. He really wanted to create this profile of a villain that you can relate to, and it's more reliable than.

And you? It's a caricature. It's fun, but you never thought of these kinds of moments. Yeah, absolutely. And that little walk you do from your monologue intro. Is it true that they built that set basically the length of your walk so you could time that out?

Yeah.

So Sam and I, we look at each other and we said, this is not, we haven't done it. And he said, You know what? Let's play the scene and at the end, if there's some time, we'll go back to it. We play most of the scene, most of my side of the scene.

And then, in the last 20 minutes, he said, Are you ready? I think we can make one of those more. Yeah, let's do it. He put the camera and I did it and that's the one it's in the movie, because my body was more relaxed.

It was more, it was more at ease when the first thing in the morning to do that. For me, it was a little bit of a shock. And it's funny because Daniel, the camera was on his shoulder and he was like, rooting for me because he was seeing me. How I was coming to the mark, the end mark, and I was making it happen. He was like, Yes, yes, yes.

He puts up a little finish line, yeah, and they had to cut around it and that got a little awkward. And not to just totally fan geek out. But in addition to that movie, one of my I idolize the Coen Brothers and then I think my favorite of all their movies. If I had to, if they said, Okay, you get to pick one, I would say No country for old men. And as great as that cast was, I know you came on the show to promote it and had the nerve to show a clip of Anton Chigurh.

And then, minutes after showing that clip, turned to me and told me that my hair looked stupid.

And I was like, Wait a minute, you're an assassin who looks like Dorothy Hamill on skates, you know? But it was such an amazing moment for me because I still had the more ridiculous hair than Anton Chigurh.

And when it's over, I'm just my heart's beating. And this man has just narrowly missed death, but he doesn't, he knows it, you know it, but no one ever said that. And I think to me, that shows the beauty of. There's so many movies every now and then that come along and show you that. Violence implied is often scarier than violence that's actually happening. Absolutely.

And I just, I revere that movie, that scene, your performance, and it's been so many years now and you've done so much other great work. But I always come back to that and think that's a very unusual performance, a very unusual role, and a very unusual, I mean, and your acting was just absolutely stunning.

How else would you put it? And it's just it keeps ratcheting it up, and it's small talk.

And I couldn't. And if my English is bad now? Back in 2006, which is where the movie happened, it was inexistent. I mean, for me, it was impossible to say a word in English. And I have this five pages long scene, so I work on it for months. And the day came and it's like, Okay, let's do the scene 37 37. But we have only 30 minutes, one hour.

But we'll make it, oh my God, and it's not that I feel rushed or anything, but it was like it happened. But one take, two takes done. Because everybody was really focused doing their job and there was nothing else to do than focus on what we had to do. Do it exactly the way it was written, and just, and off we go.

And but I saw the I saw more of the downs than the ups.

So I liked that very much, I felt that was a nice way to go. And once I decided to become an actor, I knew that I have to really be responsible for the surname Bardem, that belongs to many generations. And that's why I always try to do my best as everybody.

And I guess I bet on that, and I bet on that. And I've always seen my steps, like, as you were saying, with Silva in the skyfall, like little steps. Like. I never imagined or thought of myself going to anything big or achieving this or that. It's like, what if I make this job and it's good enough for them to call me again? And that's still what I think of when I make a movie or I make something.

It's like, Okay, is that really bad? is that bad enough for them not to call me or can I keep on going? And that's something that I guess I got from my family. Because everybody was waiting for the phone to ring. And I guess I have that fear still, like, it's not gonna ring anymore.

But that's fine, because that gives me-.

And then they asked me, Do you want to come in and do an audition? I said, No, I don't want to. Yeah, come in, okay, and they gave me the job.

Oh my God. And before Nate falls-.

Put on this wig, same with the Bond villain, I have another wig. Yeah, exactly. Your sister was this close to being Silva, and then you had to go to the audition with her.

No, I don't, I don't want to do it. Yeah, you are doing it, you have a month. I said, Oh fuck, okay, I'll try, and then I did it. But I never expected that anybody would watch that movie. And it happened that I was nominated for an Oscar for it, which is weird because I thought nobody's going to watch it. Who cares?

I'm just going to see if I can play in English.

But don't you think that all the movies that I thought this is a masterpiece?

And sometimes I try and encourage people. Because there've been times in my life where the thing that I thought was going to really make me. Early on, when I was younger, didn't happen. And then I could see later on. If that thing had happened, the thing I was meant to do wouldn't have happened. It's all gets very mystical, but I believe in it, absolutely, I believe there's something to it.

You should try podcasting in Spanish. It's important that we look at that. You are a graduate of Madrid's School of Arts and Offices Offices, Yes.

I just about ran out, just ask Eduardo, Eduardo, I just have to keep saying Eduardo to fill it out.

But when you talk about not speaking English, so many people in the United States were, so, don't speak English? Americans, yeah.

But it's funny, we almost forget, I mean, because we are so self-absorbed. And we think, well, we all speak English, and it must be nothing to speak English. And of course, it's a very it's not an easy language. And then when this is your craft and you have to learn to adapt to this other language, I was told that you there's a particular rock band that helped you learn English.

And the lyrics were in Spanish, they weren't translated, so for me, it was like, What is he saying? Because they are not singing in Spanish? What are the? And I was trying to make sense of the word in Spanish and what I was hearing.

And then I will go to a dictionary and then because of that, I will learn that word on top of that word below. So that's that ACDC made me learn English because I want to learn the lyrics.

I love those guys.

Right, right, you know, in the original, it's that they really want to watch that soap opera, or they want to watch that TV show or that music video, or sing that song.

But in Spain, it's impossible to find one movie in the original version. there are only one, two, three, four movie theaters, all in all Spain. Maybe two in Madrid, two in Barcelona. And that's such a big mistake. Because, first of all, we are giving our language for those movies, and at the same time, we are not helping the audience to understand what they are watching. Since you can't dub Marlon Brando, you can't dub Robert de Niro, you have to see it in the original, you can't dub John Malkovich.

You have to see, you have to hear those voices. It's part of their richness.

And the same is true with I was just taping a travel special in Bangkok and I turned on the TV. And there was one station, for some reason, that was broadcasting the news in French. And I was watching it and I just was like, watching it for a while and I couldn't understand what was happening. But the language is so beautiful, but I find that just being exposed to these different languages, some of them are music.

And, of course, some languages are not music.

German is not music.

But yeah, I wouldn't want to watch, there's so many great films that I would want to see. If they're in Spanish, I want to hear them in Spanish, and of course, I need the guide to help me understand what's happening.

It's like, when I do a movie like Little Mermaid, it's in English. Okay, the version in Spanish is gonna be dubbed by somebody else, I'm not dubbing it. So everybody wins, the audience wins.

I win because I stay home and I don't do the hard job, and the dubber wins because he has a job, everybody wins.

What?

Al Pacino sent me a he called me after watching before night Falls. But it was two o'clock in the morning in Spain. And it was a time where there was a tape answering machine with tape. Remember? So I was sleeping, I was like, Who's calling? and then Hi, hi, Javier, it's Al Pacino here. And they were like, Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and I couldn't get the phone like Al Pacino's calling my home. I saw the movie, I liked it a lot and congratulations.

I was like, and then I went and I play, and I play it again, and I play it again, and I have the tape, I have the tape. So the first day I met him in Toronto Film Festival, I went to the toilet. And I took a picture with a camera. No phones at the time, of my face in the mirror, because my face was like, I'm going to meet Al Pacino. And the good thing about it all is that he's such a wonderful man.

And I look around and it's just a room with me, a tiny room like the size of a phone booth. And it's me and Al Pacino, and I'm stump-struck. And he goes, Connor O'Brien.

And liquid shit just comes out of.

I urinated in, I defecated, I mean, just it was awful, like it came out of every pore. Connor O'Brien and I went, Mr Pacino, you have no idea. And I just tell him how much he missed me. And he was like, and then he puts it back up and he's like, No, you a tightrope. Every night, a new script, you gotta wing it madness, you know? And he's just going on about how, Oh, sure, I've done the Godfather, but I saw you with Al Roker, you know?

But I thought, this is no sir, no sir, and it just blew my mind. And then every now and then, I'll be in New York in a restaurant. And it just happened recently where I hear Conan and he's there in the corner in a restaurant. And I get to have these little conversations with him. And what I found is in the last one. I'm so self-conscious about taking up his time that I'll have a few back and forth with him. And then I'll say, like, Well, have a great meal and so nice to see you. And I run away. And then he, apparently, because I ran to this woman who was at the table. A couple days later, coincidentally, at this other event, and she said, Al was like, Why did he run away?

I ran away because I'm scared you're Al Pacino. I don't want to waste. He fled, he flew. Why did he go? But yeah, that would be one, I would think that would be one. Yes, he's just a guy.

That, and I read somewhere, and this is something that I completely agree with, because I'm on record as saying this a long time ago. But you were starstruck and had a bit of a man crush on Brad Pitt.

Am I up top, am I down below?

And Brad's probably like, Oh, well, it's, you know, I don't know. I guess it's another huge. You know, it's Tom Cruise, or it's Ben Affleck, and you're like, No, no, I full-time, yeah.

You look absolutely, you have the face that I could see-.

It's you are so regal and I look at that photo. And I think no one else could play King Triton in live action. It's fantastic.

Oh, I said, No, no, you start looking for your Anton Chigurh wig.

Tell you, right, right, right. But three years ago he was like, Yeah, but now he will love it. That's why I do dune as well for him, I do dune for him, I do mermaid for her and I get the paycheck for both.

And even though when I was first watching it, The First Dune that came out a few years ago, I didn't understand the significance of every single moment. But as a whole, it was so beautiful and powerful I've never. It just looks different. We're flooded with so many intergalactic movies, and then there's so much artistry in the Dune films.

I'm in it and I can't believe I'm in it because it's one of those movies that you feel like an actor. Oh, I wish I could be in one of those. Well, I'm in it and he's adorable, he's a great. Have you ever interviewed Denis Villeneuve? No.

I have no idea.

Anton Chigurh has to walk in to that gas station and have that scene. Even though you're not ready, you don't feel like. But that's also just the training, absolutely, the years and years of training.

In theater, it's different, Of course, theater it's like, okay, you are so exposed that if you get lost, then people will notice.

Unfortunately, I have the ability if it's 3,000 people in a theater and I will see the one person who gets up and walks out. And maybe it's just to use the bathroom, but it'll get in my head.

If you're a real person and you're still here, it has to hurt just as much. And if you get to the point where nothing like that hurts you, your work can't be any good.

And then it's when I stopped reading it. Because this is hurting me a lot. I don't deserve this. And as you said, I'm trying to do my best, but I will never be able to be liked by everyone. So give up that dream. But it's a good point. Yeah, it's a good point. I don't know what you said, but it was a good point.

Yeah, I don't know if I can do that. Oh, come on, yeah, why? Well, first of all, my time is very valuable. And Matthew Rhys is, I mean, God, it's such a brilliant actor and raconteur. I just love that he's coming on the podcast. So to waste time saying, hey, before you get going, there are these people.

You don't have to do it before he came on.

Yeah, here's how it's gonna go. My plan is that if Matthew Rhys ends up being on this podcast a total of six times, none of you will ever meet him. Come on, do you purposely plan? Really cool, I mean, we've had a lot of really cool guests. But sometimes you really get someone you know we're gonna love and then you do it somewhere else and we can't be there. You did this with Oliphant the second time.

You had him on in New York? Yeah, he was on New York because Oliphant and I. It's a special time when we're together.

Now, wait a minute. To be fair, when I interviewed Tommy Lasorda, you guys were here.

You know, so you got him, you weren't even here for that.

No, I mean, whenever there's an older baseball manager, I always make sure that you guys get to meet him. I just think we're a team and sometimes you go rogue and I get it. It's your podcast and stuff, but still, No, no, no, don't be silly, it's our podcast. I just happen to be the star.

Did that come out right? No, I don't know, did it, I guess. I just want to meet Matthew Rhys.

So do I, and you're getting in the way, You're cock-blocking all of us, you're pod-blocking us. I'll tell you what I'll do.

If you guys can write me a little message or something to him, we could record a little message for him. Right now, I prefer you write a message and then just trust that I'll give it to him. What do you mean?

You won't, though, you'll lose it. What would you say to Matthew Rhys? That is so important? Dear Matthew? Oh, I didn't realize this was a let's go around the table.

This is a school essay, a fifth grade essay. Hi, my name is Sonam Obsessian. You don't know me, but I watched you in The Americans and I love you. What's it like to be married to Keri Russell? I love her curls.

You're a lucky guy, she's a lucky girl. I hope we're friends one day. Love Sonam Obsessian, Okay?

If that was your intention, if that's what you were gonna say to him, I'm really happy that you're not going to New York. Okay, wait, Adam's probably you can't say shit like that to Matthew Rhys. Yes, I can. yes, I can.

Compliment his wife, who I loved, who's a curly hair icon. Yeah, I can, right? They both are.

Hey Matt, what's it like having the same name? Pretty cool, huh? You're from Wales and I'm from Whittier. Two W places.

I really loved Perry Mason. I love you a lot too. If you want to just hang out, hit up my man Konzi, he's got my deets and miss you.

Thank you, bye.

Who has control over what happens? Eduardo? You have these tapes now, do you not? I know where they are. tapes, digital recordings.

Recordings, I don't know, how do you? what do you refer to them as now recordings? You have these wax cylinders.

Yes, make sure that they're in my possession. You got it, What are you going to do with them? I'm going to hand deliver them to Matthew Rhys.

That's what I'm going to do, and you're going to trust that I did it. He could just email it to his rep, he could just email them to his rep right now, we could do it right after this podcast.

Nope, that's not the way I like to do it, I like to give the personal touch. I'm going to write a little handwritten note with it and then you guys are just going to trust that. I gave these to Matthew. Rhys. Do you think you purposely keep us away because you're embarrassed of us a little bit?

I'm going to say, that's 80 true. What's the other 20 that I get more focus on me? So it's embarrassment that you guys will screw it up.

And then there's 20 of it. Is me just wanting more time with Matthew? Rhys? Oh, you get it.

So, oh, and then I'm in the circus, yeah, it doesn't work out. oh, and then I'm working for that Zeppelin company for those reasons. Just relax, why don't you do this?

Just trust that I form a strong enough connection with Matthew Rhys that he wants to come back. And on the third go round, you guys will get to be behind glass when I interview them. Oh, you could fly us out too, just for that day. No, no, this podcast is hemorrhaging money because of a certain Matt Gourley's spending habits that he charges.

When he buys stuff now, kooky stuff at the Rose Bowl Swap Meet, he charges it to the podcast. That's true. He bought a 1938 Zamboni. Yeah, oh.

Yeah, it was a hipster thing. I now have 36 through 48 all year. Zambonis True story My wife, her step-grandma, was a Zamboni. She was the heir to the Zamboni fortune.

So just.

Is that true? That's true? Wait a minute. Is that really true? Is she, Mrs?

Zamboni I just threw out Zamboni from the random part of my brain. What, that's a family name, it's her step-grandma's maiden name.

And she was a wealthy heiress of the Zamboni family. I don't know what else to say, Does that? Matthew? You listening? Is that pretty cool?

Well, more proof that you should get a lot of talking time with Matthew Reeves. Loved you, love Perry Mason. Yeah, that's great. No guys, just let me handle, let me handle the heavy hitters. All right, you guys are all fun.

When we booked someone on the podcast who was third lead in a movie, that didn't really go. I'm very comfortable with you being here, but when it's these heavy hitters, I think I need to handle it myself. You understand, I feel like they notice our absence, though I feel like he, I feel like the way you notice the absence of pain, yes.

I feel like he's gonna be like, Hey, where are Matt and Sona and Adam? And then I'm gonna be like, and then you have to have that awkward conversation. What if he listens to this podcast? he's a fan? What if he listens to this podcast?

Could be.

He's a man, he's a good looking guy, charming. yeah, he is so charming.

I can't wait to see him. Are you gonna? we're gonna? what? what if you guys become friends?

Yes, what's wrong with that? A lot, a lot. If anyone out of the four of us is gonna be friends with Matthew Rhys, I don't think it should be you. Yeah, what are you talking about?

You don't appreciate it like we do. I just don't think that, I don't know, I don't think you can hang with him. And Carrie. I keep bringing up Carrie, because that's what are you gonna do with Matthew Rhys?

Are you gonna take him to the Altadena 7-eleven and buy him a slim? Jim? I'm sorry and don't even get me started on you, what? I'm sorry, this I happen to know. He restores old sailboats.

So you think that's not up my alley, that kind of thing? He and I will get along, we'll be fast friends. You work on small toy sailboats, he works on real sailboats that a man can get into closer than anything you do.

Oh, that is not true. I am quite the seaman. Yeah, I have been at sea many a time, I have sailed off the coast of Boston, Rhode Island, Cape Cod.

I've sailed off the rough seas of Block Island, my face is weathered by the salty spray and old Neptune's ire.

Anyway, none of you were ever meeting Matthew Rhys? That's the end of this segment, we'll see. Okay, never gonna happen.

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