2023-08-03 00:28:37
After 25 years at the Late Night desk, Conan realized that the only people at his holiday party are the men and women who work for him. Over the years and despite thousands of interviews, Conan has never made a real and lasting friendship with any of his celebrity guests. So, he started a podcast to do just that. Deeper, unboundedly playful, and free from FCC regulations, Conan O’Brien Needs a Friend is a weekly opportunity for Conan to hang out with the people he enjoys most and perhaps find some real friendship along the way.
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Summer S'mores With Conan and the Chill Chums a six-part series with Conan O'Brien, Sonam Mufsesian and Matt Gorley. Let's get started.
Welcome to episode two of Summer S'mores with Conan and The Chill Chums Outdoors edition.
Now, as I recall, and I don't recall a lot last year, we met in your backyard. Is that right? Matt? That's right, wonderful. We had a wonderful time. I think Sona was a little over-served, if I recall, okay?
Because you make a powerful cocktail. And then Sona showed absolutely no restraint.
That's very true, and you know what, I think it's gonna be the same thing this time.
What was the cocktail last year? It was spectacular.
It was called the Chilled Chum.
Okay, and it was made of chilled bits of fish that are used to attract sharks.
I believe you said. It looked like little mouse hearts.
Yeah, pulverized mouse hearts, No. It was actually amazing, it was great, it was fantastic, I'm being perfectly honest with you.
Last year's drink was amazing and has a lot to this year's drink is gonna have a hard time. This looks quite different. What is this?
This is called the ginger menace. Okay, and these are little conan heads.
Oh, look at that, it's got the either that's a pompadour or a tumor.
Well, it can be both.
Okay, beautiful looking, great presentation, Matt.
Thank you, yeah, that's really nice.
This is bootleg cuban rum, aperol and ginger beer with a little bit of fresh ginger and lemon. And there's also just cause I know you like dazzling drinks. There's some edible glitter in here.
Oh, that's fantastic, that's, I mean, I'm like Hemingway only. I demand glitter in my drinks, but in every other way. Thank you for making this. Yeah, my pleasure. cheers.
This is look at that I like the little conan that you made out of, looks like a sectioned grapefruit and then here to test it.
Is there some shit on the Ice Cube?
Yeah, that's a little cowboy.
On the ice cube, my grandpa had this little logo for his company of a little cowboy. And you can get like little wax stamps made, and you just run it under water and press it into the ice.
Oh, that's fantastic.
Isn't that stupid?
It's not stupid at all.
I love it, I love this promotion for Yellowstone in my drink. What is okay? Here we go. Here's my first sip.
Oh, that's nice.
You know what, Matt, you know, I'm not a fan, so this, I mean, this was all honesty and sincerity. You make an amazing cocktail. Oh, thank you, this is really good.
I mean, it is not only aesthetically pleasing, but good Lord.
I knew you liked rum.
I love rum.
Yeah, and this is communist rum, so you know, it's good.
I love Communist rum. yeah, I love it's the people's rum. yeah, it's the rum we've brought down the pigs and-.
You can't drink it.
What is your problem? Look, what I did, I took out mine.
I know, but you put it in.
You put it in your drink and I'm still.
I'm going to drink this drink.
Sona, it's not your fault. It's a little top heavy.
As am I, yeah, hmm, okay, this is fantastic.
I do love a rum drink and I just want to put it out there. If you ever see me at a bar and you want to strike the right note, I love, I love me rum. I'm part pirate in that way, I don't pillage, I don't plunder, and I have no courage.
And well, there's-.
What makes you a pirate?
The rum part, Okay, I like to drink me rum, okay, and then I like to fall asleep listening to my own podcast.
Which, to me, says Pirate all the way. It's nice to be outside. Let me set the scene for our listeners. We are out. It's a beautiful evening and we are outside and we are at the Team Coco headquarters here in the Larchmont area of Los Angeles home base.
Home base and there's a wonderful porch, and we're sitting out in this porch. There is not a cloud in the sky, it's a gorgeous teal blue.
And everything is flowering because we had a lot of rain this winter and spring and-.
Hey, take it easy. Yeah, sona, relax.
Sorry, it was gray up until like yesterday.
Okay, can you let me just set the scene?
I'm sorry, okay.
You're the worst, what the?
I'm sorry. Let's hear more about your very descriptive of this patio that's covered.
This is wonderful, we're sitting outside and we're sitting around a wonderful fire.
The solo stove.
Now, listen, the solo stove. Listen, I'm not some shill, but I have to tell you, this solo stove is incredible. Beautiful design. And we can sit out here and it's a smokeless fire.
Oh, just wait till episodes three and four. We're gonna be making actual pizza in a solo stove pizza oven.
Wait, they wait a minute.
Stop.
Hold it talking.
Are you saying yes?
That they took the ingenious design of a solo stove, and then they somehow use that brilliant technology to make an incredible pizza oven.
That very thing, yeah.
Okay.
But you're not a shill.
Oh, not at all, not at all. But let me just say again, solo stove, the one we're sitting by right now, even if it weren't also capable of being a pizza oven, is incredible. I've just never been happier sitting here.
And I know Sona doesn't like it. But again, the teal blue sky.
Yes, please talk more.
The quiet, The quiet song of the Whippoorwill.
Look, the lone bird up on that wire watching us.
Oh, look at that bird, or it's a drone, that's a drone that looks like a. it's a you know what, it is, a rival podcast.
They took it. It's smartless, it's those smartless guys, it's, you know what it is that is. And I know that he's a tech guy. But Jason Bateman has created a drone and dressed it.
They're so fearful of our podcast and they basted it with feathers and they sent it out. And that's Bateman right now.
Yeah, fuck you Jason Bateman.
Yeah, fuck off, Bateman, we know what you're up to right now. He's watching it and well, here's, he's doing two things right now. He's watching us through the drone from his luxurious home in the Hills that I've never been invited to.
And he's also watching his appearance in Teen Wolf. At the same time, he's watching Teen Wolf 2, Teen Wolf 2, He's on a split screen. So here's to you.
I salute, I salute those guys, I love those guys, yeah.
I don't know them.
No, of course not.
Oh, what do you mean? Of course not. I think if they got to know me, they'd think I'm cool.
You're not in the club, Sona, there's a celebrity club.
Yeah, Sona.
Yeah, Matt and I are in da club, da club. Oh, it's called Da Club. We have a schvitz together, Matt and I.
We go to Turkish baths.
Exactly Where else do you get a schvitz?
I'm okay not being in this club.
Are you sure?
I'm totally fine with it now.
We hang out with all the big celebs, okay, everyone who's sort of like a C-lister on Vanderpump rules we hang out with.
And by big celebs, we just we're talking 450 and over in weight, oh.
You know, all those really heavy people on vanderpump rules?
They're all fatty, I'm only friends with very-.
Oh, no, that's not nice.
No, you shouldn't have said that. Well, that's I know, I'm sorry. Can you cut that out? Nope, do not cut that out.
But Sona, you know what I love? You start getting inappropriate after one sip. Yeah, I mean, basically, you just had the equivalent of a cough drop, I know.
And you're going ah those fatties, ah ah.
Nothing's happened.
I don't like that, it makes me feel like I fat shamed and you know what I did pregame before this with you?
Oh, please, yeah, I had nothing. Okay, I had nothing.
All right, so, you know, I'm already feeling just a little bit of nothing, but then, you know, we just feel fine.
I'll admit that before this happened, we walked down the street and we went to a lovely Greek restaurant. Because we had a lot of time to kill, we finished a podcast and then we walked down the street and there was a lot of time to kill. And Sona said, Let's invite Matt, and I said, I can't hear you, let's keep walking.
And we very nice outdoor Greek restaurant here in the Larchmont area. If someone knew the name, I'd shout it out, but I don't think anyone does.
I think it's just called Lepetit Greek.
Is it Lepetit? Greek? Yeah, yeah, wonderful. And you can sit outside.
Yeah, maybe we had a glass of wine, maybe we had two, I don't know, yeah.
The important thing is that I was recognized.
Oh, Jesus.
Oh god.
Yeah, yeah, no. We had so many people come up to me and say, I loved you in that movie where you're the conductor who's outed Tar, yeah.
Do you think people thought you were Cate Blanchett?
That's where we get your comeuppance for.
Every month you change which kind of strawberry blonde actress people mistake you for. Because it goes like Tilda Swinton to Cynthia Nixon to Now, I believe Cate Blanchett.
It's also been Jane Lynch for a while.
Jane LynCH Right, yeah.
All those women are angry with me. Yeah, that's liable, and it's not a name, so it's me, exactly.
But anyway, we had a wonderful time, then we walked back here. And I have to say, and again, at the risk of repeating myself, a teal blue sky, Oh God, the sun. Now. Listen, it is a wonderful, wonderful night and we're here and we're together.
And that's the important thing we're together, and actually more important than that, we have some rum, yeah.
And more important than that we're together is that we get to be a part when this is done.
What does that mean?
Well, it just, you know, a little, goes a long way.
My wife always says, If you don't leave, how can I miss you? and she says that a lot. My wife says that maybe eight times a day.
Now, I originally pitched that. We did three episodes of this at night, we spend the night, and then we do three episodes in the morning, like we camp here.
Oh.
I would do that.
Really, yeah.
So Sona, you were the holdout. I'm okay, listen.
I think we're okay doing it this way.
Did you hear that? Can you hear that in the background? Those choppers going by, those those motorcycles, those are guys that are living fast and free, they don't.
And you know what, they're probably listening to old episodes of this podcast right now while they ride their choppers.
I don't know I would do that, I would camp out. Yeah, do you camp?
I've never in all the time I've worked for you, I've never, like, helped you buy a sleeping bag?
Well, you don't need to help me buy a sleeping bag.
Like, Do you you have a tent?
How would you help him buy a sleeping bag? Yeah.
I would buy it for him.
I would say, Sona, I need a sleeping bag, and then she would go and say, Do you have the John Tesh?
Do you have this? Do you have the Frankenstein? Get me a body bag for Andre the Giant. I mean, that's basically what you're saying.
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I love you too.
I'm okay.
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We've got some heat, but no smoke.
That's why we know you're crying is actually just emotional and not smoke related.
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Have you ever pooped in a hole?
What are you doing? Don't take it to that level. No, I'm not saying.
I'm saying, this is part of legit. Camping is when you dig a hole and then that's where you go into the bathroom and then you dig it back.
That is not true. Those of us who are sophisticated campers bring a porcelain toilet with us.
Solo Stove makes one of those, don't they?
Well, actually, I don't want to sully their name because I do love the company. Solo Stove. But guess what, if anyone could do it, they could? You could warm your bottom as you relieve yourself. No, I am going to tell you that. Check it out on Amazon, there's incredible inventions out there.
They have beautiful toilets, porcelain toilets that weigh hundreds of pounds, that you can take camping with you, and then you pull a chain when you're done.
Oh, okay, yeah, I just you don't strike me as like the camping roughing it tight.
I don't, yeah. I did a lot of camping back in the day when I was a young lad. what day? well, it would be when I was a youngin'.
I was sent off to Freedom, New Hampshire, and I hiked all of the White Mountain range. Your, you know, all the presidentials, and I did a ton of hiking and mountain climbing when I was a kid. Oh so, yeah, I did.
And I was a lean machine back in that day. Then time went on. Yeah, time marched on, and I became the sad sorry figure, you know, no, no.
But no, I would like to camp. I will say that no one in my family is that interested in it, but I have taken my kids camping a bunch of times.
I just feel like if we decided to camp here, Gourley and I would be out here. In. Like sleeping bags. And you'd be inside it on, like a really comfortable bed that you would have brought in.
That's not fair. I would be at the four seasons hotel.
Oh, look, paparazzi.
Paparazzi it's a cop.
Leave me alone.
I'm just a person.
You know what the problem is? They always see, think I'm Prince Harry, they see a really yes, they always see a really good looking Ginger.
Certainly not shut up.
And then they're like, there's Prince Harry and it's like, Please leave me alone. I'm a person. Yeah, I know I've given a lot to this country with my comedy and my stylings, my rap, but.
Your rap?
But anyway, I'm sorry for the occasional chopper. But that's just what comes with the territory we're outside, where the paps can get a good look at.
Yeah, alfresco, this is living.
Yeah, this is really nice.
I'm just gonna take another sip.
Who needs a little topper off?
I might need her a little bit more.
So, first of all, you just failed a sobriety test. Three minutes into. I feel perfectly fine. I know you look terrific. I know I feel perfectly fine.
And I believe you gendered your drink. It's a her, I like that, it's like a ship. Do you want some more boss?
I'm looking at the ice and it's Sam Elliott and his face is melting.
Yeah, you can put some more in there. Okay? No, I would very much like to go. I like to sleep in a tent, I really do, I enjoy that life.
And I've loved the times that I've gone camping with my kids. Okay, so I, you know, I think you're wrong on all counts.
Okay, I don't think I am.
You are.
Okay, all right, but okay.
And also, I'm really good at a camping breakfast, are you? Yes, I am. I know how to make. I brought a little portable like heat up skillet last time I went.
I brought and I made a lot of pancakes for my kids, and then other kids came who were nearby and I made a lot of pancakes for them. I'm just saying, I know I'm a failure at most things, but I do very well at a campsite.
Who are these other kids?
They were actors I hired.
The sad thing is, they were child actors from a long time ago, so when they showed up, they were all in their forties and fifties. Remember me on Eight is enough? Oh my God.
Jason Bateman Yeah, Jason Bateman.
Yeah, this is lovely, it's really nice out here.
I'm gonna throw another log on the solo stove.
Oh, nice man. That's the great thing about solo stove whoops.
Wow, that was not graceful.
It doesn't have to be graceful, yeah.
I'm sorry.
The way that they've designed it, it's just, I mean, I love that. There's no smoke. Whenever I sit around a fire, the smoke is always blowing in my face because the smoke is like, Oh, look, it's him, and it comes towards me. Smoke always goes towards the a-lister in the room.
I can't believe how you spun it.
I swear to God, I've gone camping with Jason Bateman and the smoke is blowing in his face. And then I sit down next to him and it switches over to me. It does, I'm sorry.
Right now, the smoke is heading towards a plant.
No, the smoke did not enjoy the ending of Ozark.
What is your beef with Jason Bateman? He said, If you knew the things.
That Jason Bateman has done to me over the years, he's made it a mission to ruin my life. So this is lovely. And you know what I have to say, Gourley, you're the consummate professional in every way you have that, you look great, look at him.
Look at the way he's all dressed up, Sona, No offense, you're wearing jeans and a white t-shirt, okay?
It's fine. I didn't know we had to dress up for camping.
You don't have to dress up, but you're Brando in streetcar named Desire. And then over here is the professor, he's professorial, I'd rather he's Henry Higgins.
I mean, I don't want to be Brando in streetcar named Desire, but that's a better comparison than a professor.
I just think, if you, when's my transmission going to be done, you know?
What do you think the damage is? I didn't know there was a dress.
What about you?
Well, don't I look nice? look at me, I'm wearing? Don't I look nice? I think I look, ooh, who does that?
Hey, aren't you late for your feud with the Sharks?
That's a sweet burn. Oh my God. is it? If that's a sweet burn? I don't know.
What's that story reference?
You guys are the biggest dweebs.
Aren't you late?
Hey, stay gold pony boy.
Hey, listen.
Like, there's a time for me to go rumble, aren't you late?
I noticed, I said, feud, not rumble, just a general distaste for the Sharks.
Like today at 4 p.
M.
You're going to go feud with the sharks. Look, I think you look fantastic Toni, you know that? I'm just saying, you didn't go all out, that's all.
And look at me, I didn't know we had to go all out.
This is an audio medium.
I bought this shirt like half an hour ago, did I? Not? You were with me, you did. I walked into a store and I said, I've had the same look all day.
We've been on camera, talking to different people. I need to change it up. I spent my own money to buy this beautiful shirt, and, yeah, this sent me back $110, really.
Yeah.
What's it made of?
Wait, you said, really, yeah, it's made of gold.
No, I don't think it was 110.
I think it was $10..
Anyway, it's.
I want to talk about these pants, you've got these kind of like fringe cutoff pant legs. What's going on here?
Okay.
You guys are really bringing your a game.
Hey Sona, can I tell you something? When a couple of guys go camping, the man side of us comes out. And then we start talking about the wonderful blue top that I bought, and then we talk about my jeans from Schaefer Garment Hotel.
Oh, that's that, like the John Wick hotel where you go.
No, it is the place where, remember, years ago, I was doing something and our good friend.
Jeff Goldblum, Jeff Goldblum, I said, Jeff, you're a similar build to me and you always look impeccable. Those jeans are amazing.
He went, Oh, oh, my boy. oh, and he started touching my face and going, Oh, oh, oh. Schaefer Garment Hotel, oh oh. And then he became the fly and he buzzed away. But yeah, it's an amazing place in Hollywood and they make jeans that fit a man of my proportions. Other than that, I'd have to go to the circus.
Anywho you asked, and I answered.
You two are really rugged guys.
We are rugged guys.
Yeah, no, no, you are just a couple men's men.
I'm loving it out here, I'm having a good time and no one's gonna take me down.
You know what, the sky is a lovely teal blue.
Well, it's changing now. No, it's not teal, it's a turquoise now, yeah.
It's a turquoise.
Really, I think it's a dim periwinkle.
Okay, that's your rap name here he is. Dim periwinkle. Hey, hey, yo yo, I'm bringing it.
My name's Dim Periwinkle, I'm here to stay.
I always thought the worst rap name, you know, would be Poda Krem, for like for a rapper who wanted to who, you know, had been like, shot 15 times and, like, had a ton of street cred, but his name was Poda Krem.
And bananas foster.
And bananas foster what's poda Krem? Poda krem is like a pot of heavy, rich chocolate cream. Okay, it's a very fancy, rich dessert.
You wouldn't understand it unless you'd gone camping with us, you might know.
Yeah, oh, okay. Or if you grew up in the hood, you'd know about the great rapper Poda Krem.
MM This rum is so delicious. Various Caribbean escapades I've had in the past.
Yes, various trysts, the Caribbean that I've had. Let's see, Did I ever have a tryst in the Caribbean? Ooh, what would you coming up empty?
I know.
Coming up negative balance.
I'm having a good time and you know what? I'm looking forward to seeing where this, where this adventure goes. Because this is just the start of the evening, that's right.
There is more to come. This is just the beginning. The next episode, the sky will have turned, I'm going to say, a dark, dark navy blue with just a touch of slate.
Holding my breath.
Yeah, I can't wait, but listen, we're going to make pizzas, I'm told, and we're going to make them in this incredible invention which boggles the mind. And as you listen, you're going to hear Sona lose more and more control of herself because you have to admit Sona, you cannot hold your drink.
You can't hold your liquor.
I don't drink as much as I used to.
Even when?-?
I dabble in the ganj now.
Okay.
And so I don't-.
Is that your rap name?
Yeah, I dabble in the ganj.
Yeah.
Yeah, sure, that'll be my. That's not cool though, but yeah, so I don't drink as much as I used to.
But even when you drank a lot, if you would have very little, you would get tipsy and often abusive towards me.
Oh, yeah, that I think that I used drinking as an excuse to get abusive, but I wasn't that bad.
You weren't that bad. You've always been a consummate professional, he said, lying through his face. But the important thing is, you need to stay tuned because Sona is going to lose control. She's going to be single, yeah.
You last remember last year?
Yeah, I know that's why I'm sipping my beverage.
You're on your second, yeah, and it's the first episode.
Yes.
Well, I'm sorry, you're on your second and we. It's our first night outside. It's your first crack at it, right? It's our first night outside.
Are you trying to convince people? How are you doing, buddy? Yeah, what are we doing?
No, because didn't we do one in studio?
Yes, we did.
I thought I was being very responsible and actually on track, keeping track of everything. Yet I'm accused of being the drunkard.
Well, you said, our second night outside.
No, I fixed it, I did my best to make sure that everything was on track. I'll say that again, okay?
Oh, you got to leave that in.
Okay.
Because he messed up, I don't think I did, actually. I don't know. You're going to listen to it again and realize that what I said was the correct thing, but you guys weren't thinking, I know.
And then you'll be embarrassed. I'm not going to lie, I already forgot what you said.
Let me just put this in.
I don't even remember what we're talking about.
Two options. You are so right Conan, you are so right Sona. And then I can splice that in, that's nice.
Okay.
Terrific. Well, I'm glad we're all here together. Yeah, I've always wanted to be with my best friends, your children.
Well, they were unavailable. Oh, but then I got you guys. But I'm here in a building that I own.
Enjoying a stove that I endorse.
These are the things that make me happy, and I think that's the essence of a life well-lived.
You are truly doing something unique, you are in a building you own with a stove, you endorse. Wearing jeans that were basically sanctioned by Jeff Goldblum. Yep.
Drinking a drink that you made? yeah, expert cocktail ear.
No, I'm just a hobbyist. This has just never happened on Earth before, in humankind this distinct moment.
That's true.
Were you a bartender?
No, no.
I don't think I could ever have been a bartender, I don't think I could have handled that pressure.
You know what, you have a temper, you know that, yeah.
What is it? is this shit on Sona night?
No, no, no, is that what this is? You just said you wouldn't be a good bartender. I think the minute someone did anything that displeased you, you would see red and lose it on them. Is that true or false?
Yeah, I think that what you're saying is right, but I don't know why you have to bring it up. I could just have this dream of being a bartender.
I always go towards the truth. Wonderful evening with both of you.
I think you'd be like, Oh, give me four minutes to make your beer.
I want to make it just right.
Okay, well, you don't really make the beer, do you? don't? you just take the top off?
I mean, Conan, now mix a little bit of this beer with a little of that beer, and then a little of this other beer. Some from the bottle, some from the tap. There's the Conan special.
And I look around and the whole bar is empty, no one's there. All right, we got to wrap it up. I will see you all next time as this evening progresses.
The sky darkens, and so do our moods. See you then.
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