Disrespectfully - The Man Behind The Girth | Episode 17

Hi. Hi. Something's, like, different today. It feels a little different in here.

Feels a little like we have less space, maybe? It feels full. Feels hot and heavy? I mean, I'm trying to be, like, cute and sexy, but I'm sweating a little bit.

It feels a little thick in here.

Why is that? I don't know. Is it because we have our first guest of all time? I think so. Live in the Disrespectfully studio?

Thank you for having me. Hi. How are you doing today?

Welcome to. Disrespectfully with Katie Maloney and Dana Cathan. Unapologetically, we're here to do what we want to do.

Spilling the tea. Babe, you're going to see the power of women, like, Disrespectfully.

I'm doing great. Doing better now that I'm sitting here with you two ladies.

Oh, thank you. He's such a charmer.

Can we call you Ben? You can. I mean, we could call you Girth Master the whole time, but this is Ben. We are so excited. he's here, and we just have so many questions.

What if we just called you Girth?

A lot of people do. Even, like, some of my friends back home, call me Girth now.

Really? Do you go by Girth Brooks? Like, when the Cowboy Carter album came out and he got a little country, he's Girth Brooks. Girth. That's cool.

Okay. We'll call you whatever you want us to call you.

You can call me anything you'd like.

My God. Dana is going to be a long hour.

Dana, you can call me tomorrow if you want.

Do you want me to leave? Excuse me. I need some water. So, how did we end up here? Tell us everything.

How I got to this studio?

How you got to this studio. Not necessarily, like, the Uber transportation part, but just, like, how did we connect?

So, you started TikTok with a friend of mine, Tash Page. And I popped up on that. You saw the username, I guess, Girth Master. Got a little interested. And you made a TikTok talking about, like, Girth Master TikTok.

I checked yesterday. It's at 1.6 million views. So, I go through phases of TikTok where I'm actively making them and then I'm just consuming it. And I just, that was the first one I had made in so long. And I'm like, this is what I go viral for.

Yeah, now we're here.

And we're so excited.

It's been a wild ride. Come along quick.

When did you start this? I mean, you were born girth master, obviously. But, like, what did you used to do?

So, I've had a bunch of, like, regular jobs. Like, right before this, I did customer service for, like, a major company in an office. Before that, I was, like, a handyman, a landscaper, did construction, baggage handler, like, keep the boy. Every, like, porn job, I've done in real life.

Wait a minute. I feel like I've seen this movie before.

Every character they play, I've actually done in real life. Yeah. And then it progressed to this. Like, I've always kind of shown off online. Since, like, the Tumblr days in, like, 2010,, 2011,, I was posting, like, naked photos to the internet for fun.

Okay, okay, okay. Wait, wait, wait.

Sorry, we're not moving fast.

Back it up, back it up.

Back that thing up. Naked Tumblr photos. Go ahead.

So, wait, you've just always done this?

Yeah, it's just been, like, a little, like, online exhibitionism. Just for fun.

Since, like, when, like, what age did this begin?

18, of course.

Okay. Well, I mean, okay, since you're a teenager. So, like, there was just a point where you were just like, you know what? I think I need to share this with the world.

Yeah, like, everyone takes, like, naked photos. And then I posted mine to Tumblr and it went kind of viral. Okay. It's like a bit of a rush. Like, you get that feedback from that.

Just for free, yeah.

Jeez. And then I met someone with an OnlyFans. And she's like, why are you giving this away for free? So, I started the OnlyFans and it rolled from there.

Dang.

Before that, like, how long until you made this your full-time profession? So, it sounds like you've been doing this for, like, four years, then.

Two.

So, the OnlyFans has been for two years.

Yeah. So, when did you make the official transition? You're like, I, this is supplementing my income. I want to do big things on the internet. Yeah.

I did my day job while doing this for a full year. And then it got to a point, like, I sat down with an accountant, got my business structure, like, properly sorted out. And I realized I was making my annual salary every three months at that time. So, like, well, like, I could definitely better spend my time going full-time on myself. Yeah.

How many hours a week are you putting into this, all in? Like, are you producing the content yourself, filming it all, like, so, like, in comparatively to a nine-to-five, 40-hour work week?

It's hard to, like, pinpoint, but I'd say, like, at least 60 hours a week. Okay. Because it's like when you run your own business, you never, you're never off the clock.

So, what's, like, a typical work day like then? So, like, 60 hours, that's, like, a lot of...

Yeah. It's always different. Like, when I'm shooting a lot of content, like, the shoot will be a couple hours of the day, and I'll shoot my own content, I edit it, and I do all my own, like, marketing and everything like that as well. Wow. And, like, even, like, social media interactions and stuff like that is, like, kind of working in a way.

Well, I'm taking up five hours of your weekend because we're doing a lot of social interaction.

Like, very, like, entrepreneurial of you. So, okay. So, then you do your own, like, booking. So, are you, like, reaching out to people, or do people reach out to you to, like, collaborate with?

These days, it's mostly people reaching out to me. Like, for a while, it was me reaching out to everyone I could, and, like, starting out in my city in Australia. And then, like, while I had my day job every weekend, I was, like, flying to another city in Australia to, like, shoot porn, and then going back to the office on a Monday, and it's, like, nothing ever happened.

Okay, wait.

So, you're at the pizza place. You're at the pizza parlor. You're at the office. Does anyone come up to you? Because I have a day job, and, obviously, I'm not making spicy content, but I post slutty photos sometimes, and, like, inappropriate shit on this podcast.

No. Before, like, when I had the day job, I didn't show my face anywhere. And, like, I hid tattoos and stuff. I kept it pretty low-key. And then, once I quit the job, I came to LA and shot some content out here.

Right.

So, like, part of the reason I wanted to show my face was just, like, to fully go all in with the, like, sex work community. And, yeah, it's probably the best thing I did for my career, too.

Part of what I love so much about, again, I'm like, we just met, but your online presence, I'm sure I'll love about you as we get to know each other. more, is how open you are. Because a lot of the things I'm about to ask, like, I know where you got that bracelet and that necklace from. That was for Century City when you were here for the Fornheim Awards. But you're so open, and I love how authentic you are in the space.

Yeah, at the time when I started, I was kind of drifting in life a little bit. Just got through a major breakup, and I had no real direction. I'd been reading some books, and one of the things that I read was that there's these things in our nature that we can't deny that we enjoy doing. And if you cut yourself off from that, you're just going to, you'll not feel fulfilled in your life. And it might sound silly, but showing off online is one of those things that I'd done.

I also feel like I've seen that movie, too.

Yeah, so I definitely gave a lot of thought before jumping into it. And yeah, I thought about every angle of it and decided I really wanted to do it. And ethically, consent is important. I have a really thought-out process of the way I do things. So I'm never wrestling with thinking I'm doing the wrong thing.

Well, it's funny that it's so taboo. Because, I mean, unfortunately, I'm sure you agree with this. in your own life. I've fucked a lot of losers for free. And so it's people who make content or make porn.

How did you bring this up to your family? How were you like, hey, so I've been doing this thing on the low for a while. And now I want to quit my job and make this my thing. Or did they know about what you were doing before?

No, they didn't know until I told my mom before I quit my job. Because I was planning to quit my job. I'd borrowed some money off her the year prior when I was going through some things. And so I was paying her off $100 a week. And it was going to be for a couple of years.

What was her reaction? Beyond your mom asking the questions, do you feel like it was a brief conversation? She was like, I get it. I support you.

Yeah, her questions were more like, am I being business savvy with it? And how am I staying safe in regards? Like testing and things like that. And I had the answers for her there as well. And yeah, other than that, like my family, I told, like my uncles and aunties, like kind of in a group, because I'd already told, you know, my mom and my sisters.

I mean, I don't know them. So I don't think they're on OF, probably. Probably not big subscribers.

They watch the news. That's it. The TV turns on like an hour a day.

Unfortunately. I could see you being on the local news at some point. So maybe you'll have to prepare them.

What about, like your friends? Do your friends, like all, know about it? I'm sure. And do they watch?

Some of them do. Yeah.

Honestly, I think that by osmosis, if they consume any like, I feel like they could just run into it, even if they're not seeking it. Yeah.

One of my friends told me he like watched a nearly a full video before he saw my face in it. And then he recognized me. He still finished it apparently.

Another. Well, I bet he did.

Shout out to the boy.

I'm wondering like what that was. It's like I was watching something and I realized it was my friend. If I would, if it would like, kill it for me or if I'd be like,

well, another sex in the city reference when Miranda's surfing. I mean, she's on like smut tabloids and she sees Sam and what's his name? Having sex. And she, like, shuts her laptop off and gets in bed and is like, I don't know. I feel like it would throw me,

but it depends on who.

Yeah. I guess it depends on who. depends on who.

Yeah. My friends are all supportive. Like, you know, they're green with jealousy,

but I was going to say, are they jealous?

Yeah. Wow.

Absolutely. Cause my friends have like regular, like jobs, lawyers, accountants, engineers and stuff like that. So yeah, they have like a few week holiday a year and a little nine to five grind. And they see me like gallivanting around the world.

You're just grinding.

I didn't know it was like that, much bigger than average. Cause, like all I'd seen, was like dick and porn. So I'm like, yeah, it's pretty big. Like it's similar to theirs.

I feel like, I don't know. You had to,

I mean,

I believe you in saying that. That's shocking to me.

Like. I wasn't like a football player. No, like group shower scenarios, really. Okay. I've seen like a couple of dicks in real life and showers, like nothing.

Like someone cries at the sight of your penis. Like that wouldn't be,

I know they're happy tears or they're sad tears. It's a combination. I mean, how many people, both in your regular life and your content life, tap out? Cause. I'm sure it'd be different.

Yeah. These days I do like now that I'm, like, you know, a sex worker, I'll tell them like before we go home on the first date, I'll tell them like, Hey, by the way,

you know,

they can assume I've got a pretty big dick, but I don't like try to warn them too much or anything. But as far as popping out, like, really, once they're like used to it, they're fine. There's been like a couple of girls, maybe like three girls ever, that have like, it's just not fit, like flat out, but everyone else like it'll fit. And then, once it's in, it's like, they want to keep it in. It's crazy.

Curious about, so a lot of that I've seen on your TikToks, where it's just, and we'll get into how that's fed, into your actual OnlyFans too, because it's really interesting to me the way you leverage it, but a lot of them seem to be quite small. And I know it's in comparison to you, but like five foot something, what, you know, like smaller gals, is that intentional or does that just happen? Like you, pick who you're, is that you, you want a certain niche or you just are a magnet for tiny, tiny ladies?

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So it's a bit of all, like, I do my own booking. So all my shoots are, like, I choose who to work with. And I've worked with, like, girls like Rocky Emerson. She's, like, 5, she's 6 foot 5, like, nearly my height. Like, all different sizes.

You obviously do your own social media. When did you start really leveraging these social media platforms to drive views to your only fans, to Pornhub?

So TikTok I've taken seriously, like, within the last month or two. I started out just on Reddit and Twitter. Because there you can post, like, full porn. And I wasn't showing my face. So TikTok and Instagram are kind of useless if you don't show your face.

It's a nice, wholesome content. You gotta have the balance, I think. Then you can get the followers to come over to the naughty side of things. How much dating are you able to do? Do you find that difficult?

So, like, when I'm, like, I'll shoot my content in, like, both. So I'll shoot, like, every day for a month or two. And that's, like, my, like, I'll bank up all the content. And I release a scene on my site every, like, five or six days. If I shoot every day for a month and a half, that's six months that I can take off filming at least.

Yeah.

Right, it's, like, a lot in a short period. And then I, like, transition to, like, just cutting that into social media, working at, like, a nine-to-five type of job, sitting at my desk every day. And then normal dating and normal, like, living, like, a more normal, relaxed life when I'm back home and going on dates with girls and having, like, a normal sex life, if you will.

Because I always wonder that. Because I know, I mean, I'm sure, once you're, like, in that sort of world and that becomes your job, it doesn't, it's not as, like...

Yeah.

And I don't know, like, and I know people could have healthy relationships or even marriages, but, like, someone who's not a part of that world, it's, like, I don't know that I would be super down with, you know, my person going and, like, just fucking just people on the daily. I'd be like, um, perhaps not. I don't know. Even if it's not, they're just kind of going through it, and it's just, like, I don't know.

It takes, like, an open-minded person, to date someone like a sex worker. There are, actually, I will say, there are a lot of, like, people in the industry that have relationships, like, they're married, and this is not public. No one in the public knows about their marriage.

Are they married to other people in the business?

No, just regular, like.

I respect it and I, like, support it. I just, for me, I just, I would probably not.

Yeah, absolutely.

From an emotional perspective, I feel like I could, but I'm also very open-minded and not super traditional. But there are other factors, too. Like, you, talk about safety, which is really important, but I don't know that, and correct me if I'm wrong, that as many people or the bulk of the industry takes it as seriously as you do. Like, how do you feel about that?

I think they definitely do, especially, like, the level I'm at now, everyone's very serious about it. Because if someone slips up and they let an STI into the community, the way it works is everyone gets tested every two weeks. And the idea is, if you sleep with someone that hasn't been tested, you're no longer in that tested pool. You're going to get retested. And things can take a few weeks to pop up.

Has that ever happened before, where you were planning on shooting with someone, and then you felt that way, and you just cancelled it?

Yeah, a couple of times people would make comments that I didn't really like about their testing, or they were hesitant to get a certain type of test that I required. Like there's a new STI out, MGen, and they didn't want to get tested for that. So I was like, alright, no worries, let's reschedule. It's a postponed investment.

How big is the market? I'm holding myself back from doing every single, that's what she said on Planet Earth, because Katie's going to get annoyed with me, but how big is the market where you live, compared to LA? I mean, LA is obviously probably one of the biggest hubs, but where you live, is it endless opportunities for content creation. still? You wouldn't even have to come here, although we want you to.

There is a community in Australia of content creators, for sure. And it's pretty good, too. Before I came to LA, I was full-time content creating based in Australia. But LA is a different kind of league, in a way. People here are much better performers, for one thing.

What is something that you wish you would have known before getting into it, or something that surprised you?

You're like the Barbara Walters of porn right now.

Maybe something that you don't like, or maybe something you really do like that maybe, I don't know.

I was surprised at how friendly a lot of the big names are. They're people with big online presences and things like that. But then, once you chat to them, they're super friendly, super down-to-earth. And there's no nepotism in the porn community. No one's there because their dad owns the company.

Well, genetically, I'd say, probably some of them are there.

There are. I know a girl, her mom does OnlyFans too. But it's not like no one's been given their platform. Everyone has to work hard for it, and everyone's in the same boat. Most people have taken a chance on themselves.

I'm so happy that that's true. But also, I feel like it's probably because there's so many non-judgmental people, and they spend so much time feeling ickiness, that why would they bring that into the environment?

Can I ask a weird question?

Please do.

When you're shooting with somebody, you watch a video and you're like, how long are you having sex with somebody for? Is it hours, or is it 10 minutes?

It's hours. I don't know.

I don't know. How long can you last? Do? people take boner pills to last a long time?

Some people do, yeah. Some people have little tricks and things they'll do to get it up, keep it up. That's the most important part of the shoot, getting it up and keeping it up. If that one thing doesn't work, and it's a professional studio shoot, that can cost the studio thousands of dollars if the guy can't get it up. That is the crux of the shoot, the guy getting it up.

How long is the shoot?

Typically, I aim for a 20-minute shoot during the dart at the board.

That's a solid session right there.

Especially with your equipment, I would say.

It's kind of a sweet spot, but if it goes longer, it goes longer. I'm not going to tell them to stop if I'm enjoying it. Sometimes it'll be an hour, sometimes a little more than that. I also tell them, if at any point you want to stop, please feel free to say stop, and we can wrap it up whenever you want. Some girls might struggle a little bit.

Are you talking about what you want to achieve, or are you just like, let's just bang?

Sometimes we will, yeah. Some girls will come in with a full plan for what their audience likes. We call this shoot collaboration. It's a real collaboration. I bring my style, you bring your style, and let's make both our fans happy from the shoot.

What would your style be?

What would my style be?

Yeah.

I'm not telling you here. I'm not telling you off-camera either.

I don't know.

Yeah, it can be very performative.

It has to be very much like, this is for the girls.

Oh, yeah.

This one's for the girls.

We're girls in life and in behind-closed-doors life too, I would say. It's for the girls.

So no pounding.

Unless, of course, the girls want that.

This is my brand.

That's true. This kind of leads into that, because I'm curious because you talk so much about it. People are going to think I only look at your TikToks. I look at a lot of TikToks, you guys know. But can we please talk about foreplay and aftercare?

I think that goes for a lot of women.

For a lot of women, and it's so skipped over. Do you think that just came from your big dick or because you're such a good person? Where did this come from for you?

I had to get good at foreplay because I have a big dick. You've got to preheat the oven before you stick the turkey in. It needs some preparation. That was a big motivation for me to get good at it. I think it's just important in general, too.

That's not me.

It's just a fact. People watch porn that they take notes, basically. I try to portray a realistic, how I'd have sex in real life, which is why I like having that private life off camera as well, to stay in touch with that. Then we'll do our thing on camera, foreplay and everything.

Is that part of the discussion too? Either of you saying, I think I need... Because it is work, and you have talked about the differentiation between that and public life and personal life. But is that something that also comes up? Like, hey, is this something you need?

Yeah, aftercare.

Has anyone ever fallen in love with you or vice versa? Listen, I get it. Sometimes it's like we entered into this agreement. It's like a contract. But when you're intimate with somebody like that,

things happen. Yeah, you do have to be careful. People have definitely gotten crushes and stuff like that. On one hand, I get it. It'd be weird if you didn't get crushes on some of the people you work with, because they're gorgeous, they're charming, their personalities are great, like I said before.

You're inside of them.

Yeah, you have great, passionate sex. It's like, wow, am I getting feelings right now?

I could get used to this.

Girls will send me messages about they're catching feelings. I like to be careful about it. I'll have a fling here and there and doodle things off camera, whatever it is with girls I work with. I kind of let them lead the way. If I feel like it's more than just playful, and it's more like they are being serious about wanting to get to know me and maybe form some kind of actual relationship, then I try to put the distance between us, because I don't want to break a heart, especially if it's a colleague.

Thank God we don't work together. The thing is, with that, do you have multiple people you film with multiple times, or is it usually more one and done?

Yeah, I film with a lot of people multiple times. We'll shoot together the first time and sparks fly, the footage is great, we'll organize another date and shoot again.

They limp out of there to urgent care and they come back a month later and they're doing better.

Give some time for it to.

Okay, earlier you were talking about the 0.

The percentage is based on your OnlyFans income. You're in the top percentile of earners on the platform.

That makes a lot more sense because I was picturing someone going on with a ruler to all the dicks in the world and being like Guinness Book of World Records or whatever.

I've definitely considered it. I feel like I could do that.

Do what you love and you'll never work a day in your life.

Something that Dana's brought up before is that there's men that hit you up to bang their wife?

Every single day. At least one a day every single day.

And you just are not interested?

It's kind of creepy most of the time.

I'm not saying you shouldn't be.

Don't get me wrong. I've done this before in the past in my private life. I've hooked up with guys' wives.

While they watch, or just a separate time or both?

A couple of times they've watched. Other times just the wife. That's totally fine with me. Consenting adults. But a lot of the time it's creepy in the messages because he probably hasn't told his wife.

You're like. literally is the wife in the room with us right now? You show up at the hotel and he's just like, hi.

Right, yeah. Every single day. It's super common. A lot of guys want other guys to sleep with their wives. And they use me.

That's flattering.

I'm honored. I'm not taking them up on it.

You're basically saying it's something that you'd be open to if it organically came up in life. Also, like you said, there are just so many weirdos on the internet that you have to be careful.

For sure. For me personally, if it comes about through my platform, it feels a little weird. I don't know why. I'd rather it happen organically.

Like you're at a bar. There's an attractive couple.

Same with when I'm going on a date. If it's from Hinge or through a friend or something like that, organically, love it. But if someone on Hinge messages me like, oh, you're that guy from TikTok.

Are you on a dating app?

I am, yeah.

Is one of your prompts like.

No, I keep it secret. I don't want anyone to know. No, no, no.

In case you're wondering, I got a huge.

It's just a warning.

Disclaimer.

You obviously relate to that. You've been on the show since the beginning and I was on it for five seconds. I feel the same way. When I was on dating apps, if anyone mentioned Bravo on their profile, immediately know. If someone DMs me and they're like, I loved you on the show, honestly, the leather flip-flops guy that I went on a date with knew me from the show and that was a huge mistake, as we all know.

Yeah, I'll tell them on the first date, but I usually wait until the second or third drink. They'll ask me what I do and I tell them I do social media marketing and no one asks questions about that because it sounds pretty boring. And then, after we've had a bit of chat for a couple of hours and I'm like, hey, by the way, when I said social media, what I meant was, how do you earn your fans? Because once that comes up, that's the only topic of conversation. And they have like a hundred questions.

So you don't introduce yourself as Girth Brooks to your dates?

Not always.

Okay, wait, where did the name come from? How did you come up with that?

It was never meant to last this long.

Okay, that's what she said.

That was good.

It was meant to be a two-week username. I think it came from, I was thinking of the Kitchenaid Mixmaster at the time. Girthmaster sounded funny. And I was like, cool, this is a two-week Reddit username. I started posting pictures and then I'm like, well, no one's ever going to know.

Yeah, it's very effective. Hello? I mean, if it had just been like, Ben, I don't know that I would have run so quickly to Pornhub. But I was like, Girthmaster, excuse me.

I know, that's the thing.

Yeah, a lot of people are like, oh, I bet he isn't even that big. And then people have told me, they're like, oh, I bet he isn't even that big. And I'm like, whoa, wait a minute.

Oh, the gasp. I gussed when I saw the wine bottle photo and was just like... Also, do you know what's so funny to me? People on the internet, particularly people who don't have profile photos and fake username, blah, blah, blah, will be like, it's not even that big and obviously you can tell it's a guy. And you're just like, you are so threatened.

Way to tell us you have a tiny penis. Right.

Thank you for identifying yourself. We now know.

You drive a lifted truck.

Yup. It has the vroom, vroom noise on it. Exactly. Which we know I hate.

Unless you have one. And also you yell at customer service people.

The what?

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to you and do that. It's happened to me twice, both times, just like a woman. They'll ask me for a picture and it's like yeah, sure, let's get a picture. And then they just feel free to grab my junk, which is super weird.

They just sexually assault you? Yeah, right.

Out of the blue. I still take pictures of the fans and everything, but I'm like, just from those two times. I'm a little on edge, which is weird, because I'm a big guy. No one's going to kidnap me. I was talking to a girl yesterday, she's a female performer.

That's really fucked up.

I mean, it's people are just, it's amazing how the internet is. in general. I think anonymity brings out the worst in people. but then, when you see those people in real life, maybe they just have those lines blurred and they feel entitled to you, which is so weird. You don't deserve autonomy or safety.

I kind of understand it in a way like they may have never seen someone from the internet before. in person, which is growing on me as well. I'm adjusting to people recognizing me in public for the first time.

Fame. You're famous.

It's weird. So, like, first time I saw a famous person, I didn't know how to act. So maybe they're just like in this lucid state. Who knows? But yeah, it is odd.

Well, if you're at home listening to this and you don't know how to act, please don't touch anyone's junk without explicit consent.

Don't be a fucking creep. It's sexual assault. It is a crime.

I don't think disrespectfully. listeners grab junk without asking, so I feel good about that. But tell your friends just in case.

Most of the time, they're very, very nice. Most times, it's like a knowing look. They'll stare at me, kind of funny, for a second and then look away. Some people will just stare at me point blank for minutes.

Does it feel like weird? I don't know. Okay. Because you take pictures, you make content, you put it out there. It is what it is.

Yeah. A lot of the times now, before I even meet people, they've seen my whole dick. They've seen everything of me.

We have seen your penis.

Yeah, I've seen you make love. It just is what it is.

I have not seen any video content. I've only seen the photo. The wine bottle photo. But I was like, I'm going to keep it profesh.

I'm not.

She's seen everything that you've ever made.

Love it.

10 out of 10.

I don't know. I would imagine it's weird. Even if it's what I do, I'm very aware of what I'm putting out there and everything.

It hit me for the first time a couple of months ago. I was at my brother's 50th birthday party. As I'm chatting to people about what's going on, I told a couple of people what I did. I thought that was you. He told me his brother did this, blah, blah, blah.

You've all seen me fuck.

Then it sunk in. I go to a shoe. Most people I meet have seen my dick.

Part of it, we would relate to me much on a smaller scale. I hate, hate, hate the idea of when I meet someone and they've seen very small snippets of my life from a different time, when I was a very different person. This has been your life for 11 years. It's same, same, but different. Even with that, there's an uncomfortability.

For me, it's only recent. Since I started actually showing my face and talking into microphones like this, when I was just having sex on camera and the only part of me on the internet was just my work, totally fine. I can edit my own porn, look at my own porn all day long, totally fine. Love it. Great.

We literally have a podcast. It's hard for me to listen to it more than twice. We each get it. We go through the first run and see if we have any edits. Then I listen to it because we have to support the downloads.

I soldier on. I listen to the... You mentioned me the last three episodes on this podcast. I've soldiered on and listened to them all. Even people talking about me, I'm kind of like, it's weird.

I mean, I have some experience with that, being perceived. It's a joy at times. At least, I think people have really positive things to say about you. I think you're received very well. At least you have the personality to match.

I'm lucky online.

You're not lucky. Every single video you put out, you're more delightful than the last. Someone was asking you about if you work with trans creators and you commented on it. We're like, yeah, trans women are women. Of course.

Is there something you haven't done or worked with that you want to do?

When I first started, my career shooting goal was to shoot with Angela White. The biggest name in the industry, and she's Australian. She was top of my list. It was my most impossible goal. I shot with her a couple of weeks ago.

Are you going to retire? How long do you think you'll keep doing this?

That's an open-ended question. I don't want to do it until I'm 50.. I'm 30 now. I don't know. It would be a financial question, I guess.

so far. You could keep performing or there's other areas of business you could go into.

I'd say at least another couple of years. I was talking to Angela White about it and I asked her about retirement. She's been doing it for a while. She's nowhere close to retirement at all. She just wants to keep doing it.

You seem very level-headed, but also I love not just this profession, but any profession where there's an opportunity to make a lot of money. I love hearing and we, it sounds like, had similar childhoods. I don't know if I'm just someone who pays more attention to this, but I'm so careful about planning financially and being financially secure. I had a very similar moment, like your sister did when I was 8, that I was like, nope, not going to be poor, not going to be out of money. I love when I see people who are high earners, who have that 5,, 10, 15 year goal in mind and save and plan.

Financial security has always been important to me. When I was 18, instead of going to college, I joined the workforce and I worked with, I was a baggage handler, worked with like 60 grown men, and there was a full spectrum of guys that were like 50 years old, working every hour of every time they could, and their bodies were falling apart because they made bad choices. The guys who were the same age were working casually, never doing overtime, taking European holidays every year. I saw. just chatting to them over a few years was like it's important to plan your financial future.

keep going. And you're sure positive that your mom will not let you move to LA?

Yeah. Well, I already lived overseas for a few years and I've got another sister that lives in the UK, so there's only one sibling still in Australia. their mom is like tightening her clutches on all of us, so I couldn't do it to her again. I spent years away and she missed me a lot. Where in Australia are you?

Sydney and Melbourne. if you're going to come visit. Brisbane's a great.

city, but it's just not a touristy city. That's so.

funny because I saw a TikTok the other day and someone was like Brisbane's. great for that, but I'm going to trust you. We have Australia Zoo.

It's a great city, awesome bars, the city's awesome, everything's nice, but if you're a tourist going there for a major trip, Sydney and Melbourne have way more to offer. I've never.

been to Australia. I need to.

we need to go. I swear I was already talking about needing to go. One of my best friend's cousin lives there and she moved there like a year ago. so it already was giving us a reason, and that's one of the places we travel a lot where I just haven't checked it off the list. so we'll have to coordinate.

Summer's coming up. It sure is. Is it still a little open?

I think I can clear the sched. Have you ever been to Italy? No, never Great, I'll be your guide. I love Italy.

You guys should go. You guys should eat gelato and.

I'm in.

Do you guys have the phrase in Australia ship to ship a couple?

I've seen it online. People ship us just.

by the way, but it's because it's one-sided and I'm talking incessantly about you, but a lot of the comments. I see, people are so supportive and I appreciate all the listeners like Dana, do it, go for it, and I think it was mostly my excitement about your DM that got them into that, but we're being shipped.

just FYI. My mom has said that any girl I date has to be at least willing to.

move to Australia. Well, you know I got the accent, Dan. Also, your mom would love me, obviously.

Yeah, she's always a hit with moms, but I think we should visit first.

Probably a good idea. Also, I'm like planning my visa before we leave it. This is our first time we've talked, so don't worry, I'm not that psycho. Speaking of where you're from and hometowns, do you mind if we jump into some hometown heroes?

Let's do it.

Anonymous says Girthmaster, adjacent story. Hi, Katie and Dana, and I'm just gonna add girth in because you're here Loving the pot. It's the most girls girl thing I've listened to in a long time and it honestly brings me life. Concerning last week's episode where you talked about the girthmaster and why women may come back for seconds. I have a quick story.

I always have lube on hand, yeah.

Wow. Necessary, I think.

Has anyone ever de-straddled and walked back slowly? I liked how she acted, like it was a rabid animal. No, they just cry.

They have backed up, pushed themselves into the corner of the cab to the bed.

They could use their tears as lube.

I will say, shout out to that guy for going to the effort to get his custom made condoms from Germany. So many guys are like, oh, I'm too big for condoms. I find condoms that fit me,

so shout out to that guy. Do you have to get them custom from Germany? I ship mine from the UK.

They're the biggest I can find on the internet. They fit. Is that the biggest?

population of men? Why the UK? No idea. Love this girl and love how positive she is about the whole experience. Is this lube water-based or silicone?

it typically goes? If you're using a condom, it has to be water-based.

Well, there you go. You can just cry on it.

Your turn. Jesus. Okay. Hannah says, I've been loving the pod and always look forward to new ones. I'll make sure to save them for a long walk or walking with my dog.

going to be like, oh, I know that guy.

I thought he was going to be like, there's no reason. I don't know who that is.

If you're just talking to a new guy and you're like, yeah, so I was looking at some.

huge dick earlier. I guess you wouldn't want to scare him off. If you're looking at a giant dick on the internet.

Maybe he'd be like, well, dang, what happens when she sees my dick? Plot twist.

He's like, speaking of lightsabers, have you ever seen the Girthmaster?

That would've been a great Last episode we talked about.

litmus test. So I feel like that would be a good litmus test. I'd just be like, Girthmaster, would it?

It'd be a great litmus test. How does he handle talking about giant ween? Anyway. Okay, well.

Should we dub dub dee dee?

How many times did she say Girthmaster?

I don't know. The limit does not exist.

I feel like I just said it so many times. Dub dub, dee dee.

dub dub dee. dee is obviously going to go a little different today, because we have some male perspective in the room and I think we're super excited about that. Ben, take it away. Hello, my name is Colby.

I'm a 26-year-old trans man who is absolutely dead about the fact this podcast exists. I've been on here since day one and I swear I commented how badly I want you all to do a podcast on Instagram and then, boom, disrespectfully paused. On a more serious note, the stigma on mental health in this world is abhorrent. As someone who suffers from two personality disorders and an anxious, avoidant attachment, I would love to hear what y'all's attachment styles are and how you deal with the ebbs and flows that come along with how we manage our relationship. Thanks for bringing a smile to my face.

Colby, we love you. Welcome.

Do you know what your attachment style is?

No, I don't. We know ours.

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