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It's part of my take, even about martial sports.
Welcome to part of my take. Today is Wednesday, January 24th and Joel Embiid is really, really good at basketball. I feel like we need to lead. We're going to talk some, some cleanup from Sunday, but Joel Embiid 70 piece. I hate to say this.
I hate to lead the show with this, but our e-sports, uh, uh. Analyst Darren Revell actually had a great idea. That on February or January 22nd every single year, the day that Kobe dropped 81 on the Raptors, every team should have to try to break the record.
I like that idea, that's that's good.
It was a good idea by him.
Cause we had, we had. Carl Anthony Towns also monitoring Joel Embiid situation very closely, so close. In fact that at halftime, I forget how many points he had at half. But um, the players on the Timberwolves knew that Embiid had 59 at halftime and they told him. And when they got back on the court, they started telling their assistant coaches like, Hey, we need to get the ball to Cat. More, cause he named he has to outscore Embiid tonight. And then after the game, the Timberwolves coach was like, I've never seen such a display of unprofessional basketball before. Just trying to feed Cat to get him over Embiid's number.
And Embiid did it by just putting his ass in Wimby's face.
Yes, it was so I tuned into both games and like the Timberwolves, it was very clear that's all they were trying to do. It's so perfectly. Carl Anthony Towns. Because I feel like as good of a player as he is. He's kind of like a little bit of a running joke. And the fact that Joe Embiid did that 70 easy.
And then you have Carl Anthony Towns in a loss, get 62.
And then his coach be like, that was immature basketball, that was a joke of a basketball game. And the Timberwolves are by the way in first place in the West so that they're having a great season. But it was just so perfect career arc for Carl Anthony Towns to have that type of night and just be like, And we lost.
Yeah, I, you know what I'm going to do. I'm going to bet on James Harden in his next game to go out there and try to score like 55, 60 points. Yeah, I feel like he's got something to prove.
He's got to answer.
He's got to answer for it.
Joe Embiid was incredible. It was the ninth time that someone has scored, or ninth player to score 70, plus, uh, Wilt has done it six times. It's crazy because it was also the Sixers record, so it was it was 70..
It was sixers record. Um, he also said. Joe Embiid to to go against the the Carl Anthony Towns and his night in the Timberwolves. Joe Embiid said after the game, the only thing I told my teammates was, Please don't force it and let's play good basketball, let's just play basketball. If I'm open, pass it.
If I'm not, just make sure you make the right play. It's unfortunate that Daniel House got booed because he did for shooting it, but we're just trying to play the right way and make the right plays. But I think obviously I made shots and they found me a lot. So that's ultimate team guy, Joe Embiid, ultimate team guy. He probably won't be able to win MVP cause he's going to miss too many games this year.
He's already missed 11 out of 40.
Well, they don't, they don't hang banners for MVPs, they don't celebrate that.
It will be very funny if Joe Embiid has, like, an even better year than last year. But because he plays like 64 games instead of 65, that'll be the quickest that everyone will turn on a rule.
Yeah, so I'm, I'm trying to count how many times Will Chamberlain has scored more than 60 points. It looks like it's 25 or 26 times, yeah.
And he's seven, plus the 76 times.
I think just just for the record. Uh, he had a hundred points one game, and then he had, if you believe that, he had one, two, three, four, five games of 70 points or more. Yeah, fucking insane, yeah. Just to go back and look at the stats, especially that one year where he averaged 50 points and I think 20 rebounds.
Yeah, 50 and 20 for an entire season. Yeah, yeah, and and and bead is a beast.
It was a mismatch on defense.
And it was, it was tough, cause pop. I think he was a little tongue in cheek, but he said they were going to hammer his ass before the game. It was funny to watching Joe Embiid walk by Wemby and see how tall he was, and you could see his face. He's like, Whoa, cause?
He said afterwards, like, I know I'm tall, but damn, that guy's tall.
I just like the idea that Joel Embiid can walk up to Wemby and have the same reaction we all do. Which is, you look at a very tall person and you just say, How tall are you?
Yeah, do you play basketball?
Yeah, you play basketball, that's the reason why Zach Eady plays basketball, so that when people ask him, Do you play basketball? he can be like, Yes, yes.
Uh, Joel embiid the last 16 games, so this is over the last six weeks. He's averaging 40.3 points, 11.9 rebounds, 5.1 assists, and he's shooting 57.4 from the floor and 41.7 from from a three. He's out of this world.
90 from the free throw line.
At least, you know, if you're a Philly Sports fan, if you're like a Diehard Eagles fan, Diehard Phillies fan, at least. You got to sit home and watch this last night and take in every single second of it and be like, you know what? It's been a tough year for us, but this was just a once in a lifetime opportunity to watch this as it happened. And appreciate greatness that you have, and not to have like me and you shitting all over your experience.
Right, it's like a Where were you? moment.
Where were you? Everybody remembers where they were watching this game.
Yeah, so Max, where were you?
Um, I did not watch the second half.
Oh, no.
God damn it, you were so close to just getting only praise.
Yeah.
Uh, where were you?
I my girlfriend's in town, I went to go, went to go to the movie. I mean, it was a game against the Spurs, I didn't think it was going to be this historic game against the Spurs.
It was historic.
I know it was.
And then, like, I didn't watch, I started getting the tweets and I watched the entire fourth quarter, cause it's like, I have to tune it.
I know, and I got it was one of those things where you go to the movies, I'm I'm respectful guy at the movies. I don't like to look at my phone and then, like, the second it's over, I looked at it.
The first thing I see is the SPN notifications, then like four texts being like, Holy shit, are you watching this?
And you were, and how do you respond to people calling you a casual? That's the worst thing you can call a man.
Well, I also I was. I also couldn't tweet about it, cause they were like it was an hour after it happened. And if I, as if I started tweeting about it, people were going to be like, What the fuck, where were you? So now, I guess people will know I brought, there was nothing, there was nothing I could have done, I was at the movies.
I missed the game, I'm really upset, I missed the game, but Joel Embiid is unbelievable.
And I, it's kind of, you know what, Max? I understand? Because, like, I remember when Derek Rose got traded from the Bulls, I was at a Cubs game. And I immediately rushed home and wrote a blog. But it's kind of the same thing.
What do you mean?
Like, you know, it sucks to to, yeah.
It sucks when your team again. I immediately rushed home to write a blog.
But yeah, I mean, I don't, I don't write blogs. Yeah, it could've just fired off a tweet, a video, yeah.
Cause it's an hour late.
Like, I had, I had a tweet that was that was typed out, ready to go, and then I was like, it's too late. Like, people are just going to be like, where were this? This has been the talk of Twitter for an hour.
I I want to note one important thing I think this is the first time I've seen Hank wear a Celtics hat this year. I was that on purpose today. No, okay.
Uh, Hank, you would never miss a 70 point game.
Never I do have, I do have, I do have one thing that that's the worst part of being a.
Fan Max, I actually have your back. There's no worse feeling than having a random crazy game happen and you're like, fuck.
It was against the Spur of Fever pitch, that game shouldn't have been like a meaningful game.
Oh, it's the worst. You're like, God damn it, I cannot believe this. Go ahead, hank.
This is this is tough to admit, but it, it's true. Uh, Roan coworker Good Friend has a podcast with Pat Bev, who's on the Sixers. I listened to that podcast and I have grown to really like Pat Bev. I like the, you know, Belt the Ass tour, like it's, it's fun to follow.
And I've caught myself being like, damn, like. I'm not rooting for the Sixers and obviously when they play the Celtics, like, it's, it's, it's fade on site, but.
I don't like this.
I don't hate the Sixers, I don't what I, I I like Roan, I love Pat Bev.
I like the show a lot, I like, I like Pat. Like the Belt. The Ass Tour is a great name. Every time they win, he's just like, Belt the Ass Tour, Belt the Ass Tour, Belt the Ass Tour.
They've got a lot more likable. And after the game you could see his teammates. They were like pouring everything in the locker room on him. They were they dumped like a bucket of ice water, they were spraying beers, champagne on them.
It seemed like a pretty cool place to be, which is like, way better vibes for the Sixers, Sixers team than we've seen in the past.
James Harden.
James Harden.
It's just Tyrese Maxey.
James Harden would never, would never spill a drink.
That's correct. Tyrese Maxey being the number two, rather than James Harden being the number two is just a world of difference of like, likability and guys. Tyrese Maxey is one of the most likable guys in the N.BA. Yeah.
And and there are other teams making moves now, too, maybe some panic moves in Milwaukee.
Did you see Joe Bronte's back?
Milwaukee fired their coach and top candidate, top candidate Doc Rivers. Ooh, get him back in there, ooh, get him back in the mix.
Fuck Sixers playoffs.
Let Joe Bronte Let Joe Bronte just do his thing. I love Joe Bronte.
Team Bronte Yeah, I don't want to, even the possibility of Doc Rivers.
If Doc, that would be, what if Doc just figures out how to coach in the playoffs?
Championship Caliber coach.
Yeah.
Either way, it was a fun night in the NBA.
If there's anybody who has the experience of of how to make the Sixers lose in the.
Playoffs, it would be, it would be. Doc Rivers, Yeah.
Might be a great fit.
That's a great point, but yeah, it was a fun night in the league, it was fun to see. I mean that that would be a very cool thing if every January 22nd it's like, every team just can be like, we're going to fucking go for it.
Celtics beat the Mavs. Jalen Brown crossed up Luka.
Leaky Black made a free throw. One of the greatest calls. Shout out the Hornets announcer Eric Collins.
Yeah, he was freaking out. It was his first free throw that he'd ever made in his career. So he was going nuts. He was going nuts when when Carl Anthony Townsend was shooting threes, too.
Are you a little bit worried about Chris Topsack? Why he's sitting out?
Oh.
Yeah, I mean, I've said it the whole year. If this team is healthy in the playoffs, they'll win the Championship. Chris Topsack has been an amazing addition. Fun as Celtics seem to watch, you know, since the Big Three.
I'm excited for the playoffs, we just got to stay healthy.
Yeah.
Just got to stay healthy.
And then I think, I think the heat got some heat culture.
Yeah, they got Terry Rozier.
He's good for the old tweets.
That, like, he loves heat culture, he loves Wade. Yeah, and the Knicks, Knicks haven't lost, or memes haven't haven't the Knicks not lost since they got OG?
They've only lost one time since they got OG. Oh, how many games? Uh, I think nine. Oh, that's a significant amount, yeah.
We're going to do a full NBA preview, uh, after the Super Bowl. We're going to tape it with Russo at the Super Bowl, so we'll get it in person. This was kind of a mini NBA preview.
We can't mention Terry Rozier's best tweets without bringing up the Osama one. This is one of the best N.BA tweets of all time. Osama should have hooped instead of trying to kill people, cause he tall as hell.
Yeah.
Facts only.
We would have had a sick inside out game.
Host game Yeah, yeah.
You guys want to know something crazy?
Yeah.
You mentioned Kobe's anniversary. What was Lottery Ball on Monday?
24.
Is that pre Colorado kobe or post? I can never remember eight, he was switched his number.
I think I don't know which was switched, but yeah, I don't know, I don't know.
He was number 24.
Well, you brought this up, I think you brought this up, Jake, you brought up.
Yeah, but you were still a great basketball player.
But when I think 24, I also think of him as eight, so I can't remember which one it is. It was pre, you did bring that up, it was pre.
24 was so he was 24 when Colorado happened, though.
Yeah, yeah, okay, and he was eight.
That's Jake's favorite number, that's yeah.
That's why I always take.
I guess I take eight, yeah, eight.
How many times do I guess? 24, eight, zero?
I always take eight because you just brought up a whole 24 seconds saying it.
Was crazy that Kobe's anniversary 24..
Yeah, I just want to make sure that our listeners know that, like, we do not endorse 24 kobe, right? eight kobe, on the other hand, mom mentality.
What?
Is that how it works? I feel like eight Kobe is when the bad stuff happened, then he switched.
Oh, I don't know, you tell me, yeah.
I think it's eight, eight kobe.
We'll just also delete that entire part. No Jake, No Jake endorses. Uh, I like eight kobe, because before that I had no idea he likes 24 kobe after Colorado.
When you already had, already happened.
Oh, yeah, he liked, he likes 24..
See, we can be flexible here.
He endorses move this around, endorses a whitewashing. Yeah, right.
Yeah, no, no, I was just saying I was pointing out the shape shifters. When it comes to arguments that our ball machine, which has a one in a hundred chance of every number hitting happening, we want to Kobe's numbers.
On the night, he dropped 81 wild.
That's all wild. Uh, okay, should we talk a little cleanup from Sunday?
Let's clean it up.
Let's clean it up.
A lot of people upset about analytics out there.
Oh my gosh.
About analytics, I have a take, and that's, um, people just use the word. They substitute the word analytics in whenever there's a number that they don't like and they're like, this is analytic.
It's so I had a similar take that we should just eliminate the word analytics because someone pointed out to me and it made perfect sense. They're like, analytics is to sports, as woke is to politics, where the word woke just gets used. Or canceled. Even gets used for everything, and it's like, well, that no one you didn't actually get canceled like analytics.
You're just trying to give your team a better chance of winning here. I don't even know. It's like simple math.
Well, my favorite is people who are baseball fans and they're like, I hate these new saber metrics and analytics. Let's go back to talking about batting average. Yeah, that's the same thing.
It's just like they figured out a better way to figure out baseball and the efficiency of a batter in football. It's pretty simple, I think it's pretty simple. What we're doing is. We're not smart people, we're not good at math. But we do understand that if you go for it when you're down 14, then you have two chances to go for it.
It's also, yeah, it's also just a simple question of, do you want your team to try to win the game?
Yeah.
The best chance to win the game? Or do you want to just play it safe and be like, let's just go to overtime? Like, I want my team to try to win the game. And if you add up all the math, if you said, hey, you have a 60 chance of winning the game this way, or a 40 chance where I always want to go with the 60. And also, I don't know if that's the actual percentages. Don't sue me. But that's kind of what it comes down to is like, you have a higher chance of winning the game if you go this route.
Why would you ever choose the other one? Because that's what they did in the past.
They just need to rebrand and be like, if you are in favor of, uh, of not listening to these analytics, you're actually rooting for kickers and punters, the dweebiest people on planet Earth.
So this was my other thought. I think the problem with analytics is you can make the argument. And I think it's a fair argument that analytics, or, you know, advanced statistics, sabermetrics, all these things has in a way ruined baseball and basketball. I think that's a fair argument to make baseball, you know, home runs, there's less, you know, hitting opposite field, less stolen bases. Although they've made the rules, they've literally made the rules to bring that back in the game. There there's less action, pitch to pitch, uh, with analytics and how teams are are are building the roster basketball similar way, where it's become just three point shots or dunks.
And the art of the mid range has kind of been lost. Football is the one sport where analytics and advanced like metrics has made football significantly more exciting. And I think that there's just a lot of people who just either are too young or don't remember that. Like Nineties football in early 2000 football, when it wasn't even a question. If you had a fourth and two, you'd punt, like, why would you want that? It's so much more exciting when a team goes for fourth, fourth down on the goal line, that those are the exciting plays.
I think it's because old coaches, when they retire, they get grumpy and they start complaining about the new way of doing football. And everybody wants to be able to identify with those old coaches. So they're like, John Madden hated this? Yeah, I want to be like John Madden.
Someone pointed out John Madden had a saying, Take the points, uh, however you can get, or I can't remember what the quote is, but John Madden also. And God rest his soul. Probably the greatest football guy of all time. John Madden famously said that the Patriots should play for the overtime when Tom Brady was driving for their first Superbowl.
And then, once they won, he admitted he was wrong. Yeah.
Right, yeah right.
Also, yeah, take the points. That's a great quote for cause it makes sense.
It's like, you don't want to take points off the board, right? You want to take three. Three points is more than zero points. John Madden is right about that, but what's more than three points, seven points? what's more than seven points, eight points?
Right, and I get it.
So I agree, I hit the points.
I am a big believer in that. There's a feel for the game and you can't just say, Oh, a spreadsheet says this, we got to do it. I'm completely in agreement with that. But this one is like a simple math equation where it's like, if you can, if you can convert a two point conversion over 50 chance, go for it twice. You're going to need another touchdown anyway.
And people were like, Well, how many times has it worked? Well? I know two. I think the Packers did it to the Saints this year, the Titans did it to the Dolphins. The Bucks almost pulled it off against the bills, like most teams are doing this now.
Yeah, so if if most coaches have realized that this is actually in their favor, I I think there's probably something there. Instead of just being like, you gotta kick the kick, the extra point.
I went back and I reviewed my interview with Ron Rivera from before the Super Bowl in 2015, I think 2016.
And he was at that time known as Riverboat Ron, and he had Cam Newton as his quarterback, right Cam Newton that year. I think he was the best short yardage back of all time in the NFL in that one year in his efficiency. So if you had one, two, three yards to go, Cam Newton was the best. That we've ever seen doing it.
And I asked Ron, I was like, why don't you just go for two every time? And he's like, Well, uh, I'm not a mathematician, but if you get 95 of one point, that's pretty good, that's a sure thing. I was like, Yeah, but if you have 50 or more of two, which is bigger. And he's like, I'm not, I'm not a mathematician.
I'm a football coach. Well, we don't expect you to be a mathematician, but we should expect coaches to know that. Like, one is greater than 0.95, right?
And people are afraid of the failure of, like, not getting both. But you've got to also think about the positive of if you get the first, you can win the game in regulation. I just I. I really do think that analytics as a word, it has been thrown around to a point that it doesn't even make sense anymore. And more than that, I just implore people to remember what nineties football and before that was. And it was punts and field goals and teams not taking chances. And like, playing it by the book. And it wasn't more exciting. It is. Football today is the most exciting it's ever been.
And if you look at where the future of football is going, like the coaches that are coming up now, they believe in this type of stuff, right? This is what football is going to be.
So get, get with it, get with the times. I was shocked, I guess it really was like, because it was the playoffs. But we have been on this go for two. When you score down 14 for like, it feels like three years.
I think it's the first thing that we learned about advanced stats.
It's also the only math that I've ever fully comprehended, so I feel confidently speaking about it. Like, I've never had, I've never. I've said it before, but I've never been in a room. With calculus, I barely know trigonometry or did I don't know it anymore. This is the only math that I feel confident in.
And I'm like, every time that it comes up, I feel like Oppenheimer and I'm like, Yeah, do you want some fucking advanced math? I got it for you.
Zach Galifianakis Just like seeing the equations floating in front of my face.
That's how I feel. Um, speaking of analytics, I guess, uh, I had a couple of stats from our friend Aaron Schatz. Now that we know what Dvoa is, I thought this would be interesting to bring up. Um, this one hurts, though, for Bills fans, so if you're Bills fan, you're probably. You survived the longest Monday ever, which was on Monday, and Josh Allen did say We woke up, so that's good.
But, uh, in terms of best four year runs of Dvoa without making it to a single Superbowl, the Bills are now the second best team. Uh, ever. So the Saints in the 2017 to 2020, obviously we know what happened with the NFC Championship or number one. And then there's a list of, like Steve Young's Niners in the Nineties, uh, the Eagles from 2008 to 2011, uh, the Saints again in that little timeframe a few years ago.
So that kind of hurts. Oh, colts, uh, the colts. yeah, oh wait.
I also have three year hold on, let me find the three years he did, four years, and then three years, three years. Span. Dvoa, I'm going to find that for you.
Yeah.
I would imagine like mid 2000s, 2003 to 2005, colts are like seventh or eighth on this list. But, uh, in a three year span, the bills are number one. This, this iteration of the bills. That hurts, because it's like, like, we said, it's, it's. I don't know what the fix is because they're a really good team and it shows that they're a really good team, but something's got to fix.
Josh's cap number goes way up next year, too. I know there are ways that you can get around that, you can, you can defer stuff and you can. You know, the cap isn't real for the most part. unless you're the Saints, then you're just perpetually in cap hell, and your team is 35 years old all the time. But for for the bills, it's going to get harder, not easier, over the next couple of years.
They're old, that's the other thing. I was reading an article by Mike Sando that showed basically, like, two years ago, yeah, two years ago, whenever they traded Tyree Kill. The Chiefs basically made a concerted effort. Get younger on defense as the bills got older. So it's like the bills have a lot of guys in their late twenties, early thirties, and the Chiefs have a lot of really young guys that they've. They've plugged in there.
That now extends the Mahomes window and they have to rebuild on the fly. And now the bills are at a crossroads. And they're a really good team, their DVOA shows that they're the best team in a three year span to not make a Superbowl.
Now it does feel like Belichick is going to go to the Falcons, but Rex Ryan threw something out yesterday that I kind of, I don't hate Belichick to the Bills. They have a coach, they currently have a head coach.
They have a coach.
Oh my god.
Yeah, the puns, think of the old Belichick, think of the puns.
That's all I was thinking about.
But but it actually, it makes sense, I think it may for a team that wants to win right now. You think Belichick gives a flying fuck about, like, competing against the Patriots? No, no, he doesn't. He probably is, you know, not reveling, not too happy with how things ended.
So I if I'm Belichick, I would I would put Feelers out there and be like, if if you give me a call, I will answer the phone, yeah.
Schefter said He's not getting other calls.
Yeah, and there also was a weird report that, like the Falcons front office, is kind of doesn't want Bill Belichick to come in. Which is, I guess they just sort of trying to preserve their own job, yeah.
But yeah, it's exactly what they're like.
I don't know, I'd rather win football games.
Yeah, if you're a team that's like, well, they've, they also need to get a quarterback. Yeah, so if you're Belichick, I would almost feel like the Bill's job would be a better, like, an easier transition than Atlanta having to find another quarterback. You've proven that that's not, so it's not so easy for you to do, Bill.
Yeah.
Mel Kiper saying that the Bears could get a first round pick for Justin Fields.
Oh, wow.
The report is out there. Uh, other Dvoa that I wanted to bring up, the so Aaron Schatz also did his weighted Dvoa, which, if you remember from our interview with him, weighted is obviously weighted more. Towards the most recent games, the Baltimore Ravens are the best team through the divisional round that he's ever charted. And so he had a chart. And it was 14 teams and 10 of the 14 ended up winning the Superbowl, and the few that didn't was, Oh, seven patriots.
Um, you also have the bills from 2020.
So it basically is Mahomes stopped that, and then you also have, uh, the Patriots from 2012. Harbaugh stopped that, and now you get Harbaugh and Mahomes going up to see who can go to the Superbowl.
So fun little wrinkle.
That was a fun wrinkle. I also read that with, Uh, with the chiefs. I believe it's every time they've beaten the bills in the playoffs, they've lost in the next round. Ooh, so that leans towards Ravens to me.
What do you think about that, hank?
I mean, anytime you get a once in a generation guy like Pat Mahomes as an underdog, you got to take him.
Pat Mahomes being 13 and one in the playoffs against people not named Tom Brady.
Interesting.
Yeah, 40 year old Tom Brady.
Also, Yeah, what happened in the Superbowl?
Joe Burrow being the one other guy who won in the AFC Championship game in Burrowhead.
They did. Did you see? ESPN posted, like a graphic that said, Mahomes house in front instead of Highmark Stadium? That was really lame.
That's just the name of it now, yeah.
It was just Mahomes house, yeah.
No, that's, that's Jason Kelsey's house.
It's like, What Mahomes house? Okay, Hank, are you going to bet on the chiefs? Oh, yeah.
You have to lock of the century.
I've also done some soul searching about the NFC Championship game and I think you guys are, you guys are set with who you're rooting for. But I I think I've. I've reached my limit of pulling even remotely for a division rival. I, I'm done, I'm done with the lines. I think I have to just go niners, cause it's just they're, they're a division rival.
Like, I told you, I was reaching my limit, and I've reached my limit.
I was good, it wasn't my dream last night, so wait, what, I don't. I don't really remember what the dream was. It was just one of those like, you've obviously forget what happened, but.
Whoa, was that a cheer for his dream? yeah.
I woke up, I was like, Did I? Was I talking to George Kittle? I was like, No, that was a dream.
You got to figure out, you got to go back to that dream and figure out what he told you, the signs. I figured out who I'm rooting for, too. It's Detroit, it has to be.
I, I like, I like the Niners, I do, and I love watching their offense. I think they're a very fun team, they're dominant.
They got a lot of former football teams on there, so I I have that connection.
But against our friends.
Uh, what about our friends in Detroit, Hank?
Well, this is good, we can split it, we can split the vote.
I'm just going over.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, I just I got to go with. It's the Lions, it's the Lions playing in the NFC Championship, it's a no brainer.
If you don't have a dog in the fight, it's the fucking Lions. It's Detroit playing to go to a Superbowl, San Francisco, you'll have your shot again. You have a very good team, you have a an amazingly talented roster, but you understand where I'm coming.
I reached my limit with the division rival, I was like, all right, I can't do this anymore. Like, if they had played the Packers, I would have been rooting for the Lions very, very hard. But now I'm just, I gotta, I gotta step away. At some point, you gotta be like, I was thinking more about the whip at conversation.
Like, I gotta step away. I'm not rooting for for for my brother to get, you know, an awesome job.
I like Detroit, don, though.
Yeah, Detroit, don.
Jared, you love Detroit, Don.
Dan I do love Detroit, Don.
And Detroit Don in the Superbowl, going to the Superbowl.
Sprinkles.
Cost us a lot of money.
Great week.
But that'd be so fun.
Great week, a lot of memories.
If it happens, I'll, I'll. If it happens, I'm buying tickets for Detroit, Don and the Superfans. So it's not, you know, it is what it is.
Sprinkles.
I forgot about sprinkles. Yeah, she came back.
I forgot about sprinkles, um, we also had, uh, the Titans hire a coach, so Brian Callahan.
Son of Bill Callahan.
Tom Callahan Big Tom Callahan's son.
Yeah, it's a big Tom Callahan's son. Yeah, um, so yeah. It comes from a good stock of offensive line coaches and running the damn ball.
So here's a weird stat and we're going to talk to Chris Long about this a little bit. Because Pete Prisco mentioned the leader of men, the CEO, head coach, which very funny when you actually look at it. Nick Ceriani Is that because he doesn't call plays anymore? But you have Harbaugh and Dan Campbell? Uh, are the two left that are quote unquote, like the Leader of Men CEO, they're not actually calling plays. Tomlin was also in the playoffs, one of those types. Uh, so it feels like as much as Pete Prisco thinks that that's what you should hire. It's going the opposite way in the NFL because with Brian Callahan getting hired by the Titans, every single team has changed their offensive coordinator since the start of 2022 season.
That's crazy.
Crazy.
Yeah, that's wild to think about.
And you could maybe say Kyle Shanahan calls a play. So he's the only one who hasn't changed. But every other one, uh, you know, after the 2021 season has had a change and some of them have been promotion within. Like, Ben Johnson was obviously on the coaching staff and is now OC, but they're all have changed.
And there's, uh, there's also a shitload of Irish head coaches now in the NFL. Yeah, like, very blatantly Irish last names. yeah, they're everywhere.
I, I have to wonder if Tennessee is going to try to get his dad to come in and coach the offensive.
I think he is.
That would rock, yeah, father and son duo.
He's gotta be. But it is a interesting point on where the league is going that it's like it feels like offensive coordinators, you hire an offensive coordinator, hoping that they can, you know, crush that side of the ball and then you just piece together a defensive staff. That feels like how it's going. Cause we also lost Pete Carroll, I should've mentioned Pete Carroll, CEO head coach.
Uh, Pete Carroll maybe back in the mix, though. Oh yeah. So they were saying the Chargers are within striking distance with Harbaugh. Yes, I guess they brought in the wife for the next interview.
So things are getting very serious. Uh, but Carroll, his name has also been tossed to the mix for the Chargers. I like that, cause I don't think he's done, yeah.
I don't think so, I don't know Pete Carroll would go insane if he stopped coaching.
Yeah, he needs to, he just be chewing through every piece of gum in the world.
His entire life is just on a football field.
Last thing I had, oh, I had one other thing. Uh, we did not do a good enough job of just saying how incredible Chris Jones is as a football player. Because watching back that throw, that, uh, missed in the end zone, that was Chris Jones bumping into Josh out.
Yeah, he had digs underneath and he went for the home run, he went for the touchdown, that was right, which I like.
Right, I like the fact that they were trying to score and he thought that he had a throw open, but yeah, Chris Jones just bull rushed.
It was some stat like he lined up like five or six times on the edge down the stretch and every single time he just wrecked the play. And he is like one of those like, you need one of those dudes in the playoffs who's like, okay? When we get to the fourth quarter of a tight game, you're just going to start taking over and single handedly wrecking place.
Yeah, it's going to be a great weekend of football, so excited about this weekend.
I'm very, very excited. Uh, okay. So last thing I had was, what do we make of this report out of Philadelphia that Jalen Hurts might be a diva?
Oh, I didn't see that one. Yeah, you'll have to explain that one to me.
So there was reports that Jalen Hurts was a little detached this season from the team and now the the. The report did say that. He's a great guy, but he doesn't always know when he comes off his standoff.
Yeah, well, like when he does those videos of him shopping at target, he sets his camera up. A lot of people are like, Hey, why are you asking for all this attention?
Getting a haircut? Yeah, yeah.
Put it on his sweat pants, staring at the TV.
There's been bullshit coming out of the the media from the Eagles all year, so it's it's all. It's all a bunch of crap. Everyone knows the Eagles gets clicks right now, so they're making stuff up, or they're fabricate, or they're embellishing what is going on in that Eagles locker room.
And it's disgusting.
Oh, that's an interesting word, you change, you just made. Fabrication would be making it up. Embellishment means there's a little kernel of truth.
Well, there's probably one person who's in, like the equipment room, who probably said some bullshit, that wasn't true.
Okay, do you think that there's a little bit of diva tone?
No, I think Jalen Hurts is a great leader of men and a good quarterback.
Little standoffish.
So even better person than he is a football player. Yeah, what you just said.
Agree, yes.
I want my quarterback to be way better of a player.
Yes, I want a dickhead for a quarterback that went as good as both.
And then Florio is trying to start this narrative that he's getting traded.
Oh, Florio will say anything. I respect that about Florio. It was like, there's nothing off limits.
He put out something it was like, if the Eagles wanted to trade Jalen Hurts, it would be very easy for them.
Well, yeah, I would assume so he's really good.
A great quarterback.
It was some bullshit about his contract that makes it.
Yeah, Florio is like a stoner that doesn't smoke weed like he just.
He just gets baked and is like, you know what would be cool to write about? He's a stoner that doesn't smoke weed trading, the eagle trading. Jalen hurts like that.
Could that'd be? that'd be cool? it'd be wild.
He gets baked on his own. But what's the craziest thing Tom Brady coming back to? Uh, he's going to play quarterback for the Patriots, uh, next year? Now that bill's out of town.
Did you see that report, by the way? Kyle Shanahan told Brock Purdy He's the start. This is also. We don't know if this is true, but it was reported that, uh, Kyle Shanahan before the season told Brock Purdy. He's a starter unless Tom Brady wants to come back.
I like that, Yeah, I think that probably is true. If Tom Brady wanted to come back, I think almost every team in the league would be like, Yeah, sorry.
You know what we're going to, you're going to ride the bench for a year.
What if Brock Purdy gets hurt again in the NFC Championship game? I want to go with Tom Brady.
No, I want Philip Rivers, like Philip Rivers should be the guy. Yeah, I agree. We were promised Philip Rivers last year. Or Big Ben would be pretty sweet.
Didn't Big Ben say, like, so disrespectful of Sam Darnold? Didn't Big Ben say like, I did? I did get a call last year about the 49ers, like to see if I wanted.
To it was probably a prank call.
I think Big Ben just said that, uh, but yeah, it can be Big Ben or Philip Rivers.
It was probably like a reporter from Pittsburgh being like, Would you take? would you take the job? If the Niners called you, he's like, Well, I did technically get a call about the Niners, so I'm not lying.
Uh, I hope that Brock Purdy doesn't get hurt.
I don't want him to get hurt either.
But if he does, that would kind of rock, just to see who Kyle would come up with.
Again, Sam Darnold is on the roster.
I don't think it's going to be Sam.
Yeah.
Tom Brady in the Superbowl?
Against Mahomes.
Now, this is fan fiction.
That would be great against Mahomes. Taylor Swift watching.
Yeah.
Holy shit.
I mean, it is. We've seen a lot of stuff about how the NFL wants Taylor Swift at this game. Yeah, right, it's rigged, and it's rigged.
And Warren Sharpe just put out a stat about the official that they called in. They hit the Scott Foster button in the NFL, the official. That's going to be reffing this game. Uh, home teams lose at a much, much higher rate.
Who is it?
With this guy.
I think it's Sean Smith.
Is that the guy's name?
He sounds like a fake name.
He calls a lot of false starts on the home team, not so many on the away team. Like, disproportionately, there's a there's a big difference there. So they called in the big guns to try to make Lamar win this or to make Lamar lose this game.
Here are the numbers. Sean Smith on the Chiefs game the last three years with other refs. Home teams win 56 of the time, but with Smith, home win rates dropped to 41%.
Oh, no.
See, I thought it would be different, Jake. I thought that the NFL would want Taylor Swift to not be at the game because there's so many people out there. That said that they were going to stop watching football because Taylor Swift's on it. So they want to make sure that she's nowhere near the Superbowl this year.
Also, the Swifties have done a deep dive. I think she has an Aeros Tour concert very far away. They're Australia or Japan.
It's Japan. Yeah, we talked, we talked about that. She better if she's, if she's a real one.
Before she would get the time back, so it's possible on her PJ.
The game thread from the Swifties was so funny. I don't know if you guys saw this.
Oh yeah.
Like, what's a touchback or something?
Yeah, they were, it was, uh, here was one of them. I hope that the Bills kicker doesn't beat himself up too much. It's an awful situation to be in. I hope that he's around a great support system.
Someone else wrote I feel like I want to cry and puke and also like, I can't breathe. I'm assuming this is fairly normal in this kind of game.
Yeah, football rocks, welcome to football swifties.
What is a touchback? I'm so lost, it's great. Uh, yeah, they swifties.
I think it's been great for the game this year. Because it brings in so many people who just don't watch football. And at the end of the day, some of them are going to still watch football after this Taylor Swift era, pun intended.
I don't know if there's a ton that are going to stick around.
Maybe not a ton, but think of how big her audience is. If a hundred million swifties start watching, if a million of them stick around, that's a million more football fans. We need them.
Football does rock, yeah.
That's how the breakup goes.
Yeah, that's true. Oh, if they get engaged, you're breaking them up.
No, if there is one and it doesn't go, you know, the swifties don't like how it went down.
What if? what if Taylor did like a fuck fuck football song that was like a number one hit? Yeah, that would be bad for the league. You probably would have to grab our our swords, yeah.
She blames the relationship on football because of his commitment to football. Yeah, not a not as commitment to her.
He didn't go to the Golden Globes cause he had a game or something.
Tip Little does Taylor note Travis Kelsey is not even that committed to football. We're way more committed. He only plays in one game a week. We watch all of them.
I think Romo said they were married again on the broadcast.
Yeah, he's just doing that.
He, really, he's just getting freaky with it.
He did it earlier in the season, I think he made another comment.
He doesn't care.
I don't know about that.
Forgot we had Romo in the Superbowl this year?
Oh god.
Yeah, yeah, I forgot about that.
His hairpiece, allegedly, it's alleged. I'm just saying, look at that, look at the hairline.
Next time Romo's a little Lego hair, it's a little poofy, he's got a he's got a poof where there was no poof before.
It looks very full.
Yeah, a little too full, a little too, Carl ravaged. Yeah, a little.
For a guy who wore a helmet and a hat for a long time. Bill Sulph.
Yeah, he said. There's your brother-in-law on the CBS broadcast.
Got it? Yeah, got it. He's putting the ring on her.
Yeah, he did it.
I think again, I think that Tony's trying to push them apart. I think that this is a wedge issue. I think Tony's trying to trying to swoop in on. Taylor. Swift Yeah.
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Hot seat, Cool Throne, Henry.
My hot seat is Tristan Thompson.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Got busted for steroids.
Yeah.
He's taking 25 game suspension.
Taking the world's worst steroids.
Yeah, I went immediately to, uh, my number one source of steroids in the world that I know named Billy Football. And he said, The craziest thing is that he was taking broke boy steroids. Stuff. Frat boys and Tik Tokers used to bulk up.
Oh, you don't want that.
He was doing it for the look, not for the functionality. Damn, that makes sense.
Maybe he was doing it to get less horny. Yeah, he is a. he is an all time horny guy.
Very horny guy, maybe he's trying to sterilize himself, yeah.
Get his balls smaller.
So it doesn't sperm as much.
I remember when he just had a sex tape.
I kind of forgot about that.
That was weird. Yeah, it was, it was like 10 seconds, but it was just like, and it was also I feel like it was. Didn't the did the girl release it to be like, he's cheating on you?
Yeah, I feel like with cell phones and technology like the sex tape game, it's.
Not a tape, it's not a tape. Yeah, you're right.
It changed.
But yeah, is he still married to Chloe? I don't know.
Is it just a sex video?
Wait, is he married to Chloe? Still, someone google that.
I don't know, that's just it goes back to my theory. Never trust a guy named Tristan. Tristan's a bad, bad trust name.
That's fair.
It's got trist right in there.
Yeah.
My other hot seat was a Zins.
Oh, oh, yeah.
They're taking Chuck, Chuck, Schumer said that. Uh, they're a pouch full of problems and they need to get reined in. Who's Chuck Schumer?
He's a Senate majority leader in New York.
Uh, I didn't know who that was.
Yeah, uh, I saw the video that he put out. He makes zero sense in his explanation.
Sounds like a guy who needs a zit.
He does need to chill out. Yeah, uh, he needs a lip pillow, that's what you need, Chuck. Because he said, like, Yeah, there's a problem with a company that packs so much nicotine into one item and then they promote it with the social media.
He just has no fucking idea what he's talking about. The problem with senators is they get a bunch of nerds that are their staffers that have to find these little like pet projects to work on. Yeah, they're losers, like, What are you up to? Well, I, I'm putting together this presentation for Chuck on my issue, which is that I think Zins suck because I'm a nerd.
Yeah, and then Chuck Schumer's like, Yeah, this is good, I like this.
Get Washington, D.C. late?
I don't think they're married.
Oh, okay.
Who Chuck Schumer?
No.
Chuck and Amy Schumer.
Tristan.
It's her dad.
That's her dad, yeah.
Is it really her dad? No, there's no way.
Same last name.
Let's see Amy Schumer, Chuck Schumer, let's see what this relationship is like. Uh, they, I think they are related.
What?
They're cousins.
Oh, look at you, Hank.
How about that?
Get in the politics games.
Uh, my cool throw was math, but we already went over all of that. One other thing that I was thinking during the Games, uh, on Saturday, and I think it happened Sunday, that I thought was just a thing I I did. I did do some research and I realized that it was just, you know, my my patriots derangements.
I just want to go backward a little bit. What was the research? what did it look like? I want to say, I want to say I want to know what, what exactly research for you is.
I looked up articles that pulled the stats okay, and and show the stats of the thing that I was referencing.
Did you read the articles?
Yeah, I read the article, I read the graphs, looked at the graphs.
So what did the graphs say?
I thought, and I realized after doing my research, that it was just because I'm a Patriots fan. Um, but I thought that it was just a fundamental rule that you defer the toss. The Texans didn't defer the toss they elected to receive. They went three and out, they tied the game before half, Ravens got the ball back, scored and the game was basically over.
And I believe the Packers did it too, and I. It just doesn't make sense. Why would you not defer, why would you not get the ball back to start the second half? I just assumed that was like a cardinal fundamental rule.
And then when you look at the stats, the Patriots, it's like 95 of the time they defer and then it goes down from there.
Um, but I think you should just defer every time.
I think it's a lot of coaches saw the Patriots deferring and they thought to themselves, well, if Belichick defers, then we should defer too. Yeah, cause he knows what he's doing.
Has it happened recently? I know it's happened like once or twice. Where a guy will fuck up and one guy will say like, we defer. And then they'll be like, all right, we'll kick off and then you get it both times.
Jair Alexander almost did that when he was self-founded captain.
Yeah.
I also liked during the Uh, the 49ers game, they said. Kyle Shanahan likes to do the thing where he scores before half and gets the ball back and scores again.
People love the middle eight.
Yeah.
People love talking. Hey, if you can score right before half and then score right out of half, that's pretty good.
That's Kyle Shanahan's signature move.
It's a two for one, you score two touchdowns.
If I were a head coach in the N.FL, I would like to do the thing where I score every time I have the ball. Yeah, yeah.
I would also pin my ears back on defense and then I would I would get off the field on third down.
It's a good strategy, you score.
Yeah, always defer.
Always defer.
Uh, my hot seat is uga yeah, so rip uga this was uga 10 so uga. Passed away on Tuesday morning in Savannah.
Ugax.
Passed away quietly. Ugax, Uh, he was the mascot following the OR. He retired following the 2022 season, and then Boom took over as UGA 11. This was the best UGA in the history.
By far.
Wait, his name is Boom, or his name is Uga 11.
It's Uga 11, but his real name is Boom. It's like, the Dalai Lama's name isn't Dalai Lama? You have a name and then you get the title of Dalai Lama, and then when you retire, you're no longer Dalai Lama anymore. It's like they both like kissing kids with their tongues.
It's like Nebraska always has to have a quarterback named Martinez.
Got it, yeah. So um, Uga was promoted to being the MA, or, excuse me, it was Q was promoted to being Uga. November 21st, 2015..
And then he retired as the most decorated of all the Bulldog mascots, uh, as a mascot. They had a playoff, they had a record of 91 and 18, they won two college football playoff national championships. Great dog.
Very good dog.
Incredible dog.
Rest in peace, RIP Uga slash. Q Um, my cool Throne is mock drafts because Mel Kuiper Jr. just released his first mock draft to the public.
Do you want to know who you got? Hank? Okay, in order, the Bears take Caleb Williams.
Yes.
Number one.
I'm in, I'm also officially, and I just want to say that I'm I've. I've done a lot of soul searching, I especially the Mel Kuiper's like, Oh, we can get a first for Justin Fields, let's just do it.
Uh, with the second pick, Washington Commanders select Jaden Daniels.
LSU little wrinkle. With a third overall pick, the Patriots take Drake May.
Oh, we're all getting new QB.
How about that? Yeah, so we're getting new QB.
By the way, we just, I know, that we've talked about this a lot, that the draft goes through us. If all three of our teams take QBS for this podcast, it's like we are intertwined forever. For the next five years, it's just going to be a debate between the three of us Mexican standoff who which QB was the good QB.
And two of the three of us will hate one of the other people. One guy is going to be awesome, we're going to suck, and two we're going to suck, and then we're going to fucking despise the person that got the good.
Court and it's going to be, oh my god, the pressure is just insane.
So I think what Mel is doing here, and it's smart, is what Mel likes to do. And they always call it. Like mock draft 1.0, and then you can have draft 1.1, and then later you do two, then 2.1. You can just like, update your mock draft from here until the actual day that it's done. Uh, I I think he put Daniel's that high because later he'll have them switch.
Yeah, and he'll be like, you know what? More information has come to light, new research has come out, and I think that now the commander's leaning towards Drake May.
You got to wait for Pro day, calm down.
Yeah, you get you, you're. You get. Some iteration of your mock draft is right.
Yeah, and this one did not have trades, I don't think, but I always liked the hypothetical trades, because that's, that's the ultimate fanfic.
You can tune into our junior draft analyst, Steven Shea, because he usually does a mock draft with like 15 trades, yeah.
The trend? They're all wrong. Yeah, they're all incredibly incorrect. Also big cat.
I think you got, um, you got a doomsday.
Ooh, nice, yeah.
So that's a nice little one. But yeah, love mock draft season and it does hit different being at the top of the draft. Just give me all the content right now, let me just daydream about having a new quarterback.
I know we fantastic.
I'm really going to be sad. Hopefully the Bears don't have the first pick next year, cause, I mean, they would suck really, really bad, but it's good. Having the first pick is an. It's an addiction.
I It's, it's what you just said. You can trade fields for a first rounder.
Yeah, maybe the yeah, maybe we'll get, yeah, maybe, like the Falcons will suck. Being able to root against the team is awesome, too.
Hmm, okay, uh, all right, my hot seat is the GoAt conversation because Kevin Durant is asking why he's not in the GOAt conversation.
He's also firing back at people on Twitter. He's Kevin Durant's his bag right now.
Yeah.
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