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Standing on a corner, Jameis Winston down in Barea.
I got a standing on a corner. Jameis Winston Cuyahoga.
Oh, I like that, I like that. Jameis Winston's on the Browns.
It's the river, the river, that caught on fire in Cleveland at one time.
Barea is where the practice facility is, the facility is.
Yeah, I like Cuyahoga, maybe standing on the shore of Jameis Winston, Cuyahoga. Yeah, standing on the shore of Jameis, Winston, Cuyahoga.
Jameis Winston is a brown. We got NFL free agency, we're going to get into a lot more detail with Pete Prisco, but I think Jameis signing.
With the Browns, that puts a nail in the Joe Flacco discussion, right? It's like, Joe, Yeah, I think they brought in Jameis because they could have re-signed Joe Flacco. I think Flacco was too popular.
I think that they were like.
Jameis is going to be the most popular.
That's what they don't understand is that Jameis is. Maybe some of Jameis leadership qualities will rub off. That's probably a bad choice of terms. Maybe some of Jameis. Winston's leadership qualities will motivate Deshaun Watson to be a better human being.
Yeah, not rub off.
I'm happy for Jameis Winston, No.
I'm very happy.
He wanted a place. And guess what, Deshaun Watson might not play the whole season, so we might get some Jameis for the Browns. That's chaotic, good.
It is, it's good, I like. It. Sounds like he got a good deal too, like $8 million for a year. Now, all he has to do is wait.
He should have been Kirk Cousins, who's now made over $400 million in his NFL career.
Well, maybe so. He's made like, what is it? $230, something million? And he's got $100 million in guaranteed money. He's probably going to eclipse $400 million over the course of his career. It's crazy.
$90 million guaranteed at signing, and the other $10 million is guaranteed a year early. So I want, I want Kirk Cousins agent.
Yeah, incredible, incredible. I mean, like, whatever you want to say about Kirk Cousins, the quarterback, he has played every single thing right when it comes to, uh, free agency and the teams he picked. Cause I was thinking about it.
Like, he probably could have stayed with the Vikings, they wouldn't have given him as much money, and they also would have. They've done, they've, they've had the Kirk Cousins experience. They know they probably would have always had an eye towards who's going to be the next guy. Now he gets to start fresh in Atlanta and it feels like he's going to be the guy for his. Atlanta's basically saying, maybe he's, maybe he'll take us over the top.
Yeah, I think, I think he's going to be a good quarterback for him. I think it's a good fit for both sides. And he's got. He's getting 62 and a half million in cash this year, yeah.
He's getting 90 million in the first two years and he has another no trade clause. Yeah, so the goat he is, he is the goat at getting paid.
One playoff win.
One playoff win.
He only has one, I thought he had two. Oh no.
Cause that wasn't the The Minneapolis miracle was. Uh, what's his name?
Case Keenum.
Yeah, yeah.
And we also had. One of my favorite parts of free agency is when guys go to teams that just make sense. Derek Henry to the Ravens just makes sense, and I'll say it, even though they're rivals, Patrick Queen is going to be perfect as a stealer.
Yeah, it's going to be good. They they lost a Queen, but they got a king, yeah, the N.FL.
There we go.
That's the new tagline. Yeah, uh. Adam Schefter tweeted out the breaking news about UM, about Derek Henry and Patrick Queen, and just said the NFL.
I feel like the Ravens have lost every player. Have they? They lost Gus Lyman, They lost Gus, They lost Patrick Queen. I think they lost a safety.
Yeah, they lost a safety to the Bengals, which was a great pickup by the Bengals. I feel like they're getting gutted, and there's the dolphins are getting gutted, There's some teams getting gutted right now, yeah.
We should talk about our new new running backs.
We got great, we're zigging while everyone else zags.
The two of us in Max, we all got new running backs, uh, DeAndre Swift, you got Austin Eckler Max, you got Saquon Barkley. How are we feeling about it?
By the way, Tiki Barber, you're a loser dude.
Dead to me.
You are a loser.
Tiki Barber is dead to us.
I, I don't know where. Like, Okay, no, let's get him on, let me say this as nice as possible.
Tiki Barber, you're dead to us until you come on. Part of my take.
Well, here's I have a quote from Tiki Barber after he retired with the Giants. So Tiki Barber took offense to the fact that Saquon Barkley went to the Eagles and said, You're dead to me, Uh, you can't do that, you can't go from the Giants to Eagles.
Tiki Barber after abruptly retiring. I should be able to choose when I want to leave and if I want to stay. Some people, particularly radio personalities, who will remain nameless, criticize me for having a vision or a dream. That's interesting, hmm.
Also Tiki Barber I'm not going to do the low blow stuff, but let's just, you know, when we're talks about, like, loyalty, you're not the guy.
No, you're not the guy. No, that we can go down that road, tiki.
But you're not, you're not the guy to talk about loyalty. That was a crazy reaction by him.
It was nuts. I get the hatred of your division rivals, but at the same time it's like you played running back. You know that running backs aren't getting paid. How are you going to shame a guy for getting paid? More money to go play? The Giants could have given more money last year.
Saquon literally said it. He's like, I wanted more, like they find someone gave me the money I was looking for.
It's going to be so sick to see Phillies fans, uh, or, excuse me, Eagles fans in the stands next year wearing like Barkley Sixers jerseys for Saquon.
And also it works. Cause Penn State, yeah, you got the, you know, a lot of a lot of Penn State fans, Diehard Saquon fans, Eagles fans. So Max, how are you feeling?
We, we did break the mold, though, uh, just paying running backs. Yep, so did, so did the Packers Josh Jacobs, so did, uh, the Vikings Aaron Jones.
This feels like an overreaction. No, it feels like everyone's like, Oh yeah, maybe that Zoom call we, we should listen to them.
No, it's a it's the new market inefficiency. Big cat. Our. Our teams are smart, we saw every other team in the NFL wasn't willing to pay running backs.
And we said, You know what? now's the time. If ever, now's the time to get it. now's the time, yep.
I also saw there's something about the cat. There's a reason for that that, like, went up, went up, so cap, went up. So this is actually in the amount that running backs are getting paid are actually in line with the cap percentage. Oh, um, yep.
That's, that's something that I won't figure out for at least three more years. Yeah, I'd be like someone would point out that actually all these deals were very smart. I'm like, Oh, okay. And then by that time, the cap will have stayed flat and running backs will be having to get paid less again.
What about inflation, too? Does that help? Like, is Joe Biden good for running backs?
Probably.
We can make that argument, we can go down that line. Yeah, probably. Max, I saw that you also got you got a fantastic new piece of memorabilia.
You have, uh, the Jason Kelsey soup can.
Yeah, no, it rocks.
So how much did you pay for that can of soup?
Um, that's it was gifted to me.
Okay, okay, are you going to drink it?
Drink it.
Yeah, like, shotgun it, you should. Jason Kelsey would shotgun that soup.
I don't think you can shotgun, I would drink it, you can shotgun anything.
Yeah, you can shotgun a can of soup.
I don't know how big does that hole have to be.
A pretty big, big hole.
But it was just, Yeah, I mean, I was shocked I'd shotgun that soup. It's great, I mean, it's a great looking can, great looking.
You're never going to eat that soup, I'm going to see that's a thing. you got to eat it when it goes in a can. Yes, actually, that's a great idea.
Because I want to have it on my desk, because it's great to look at.
Yeah, don't eat that.
Don't eat that, no, you should shotgun it, he would want you to shotgun it.
It is like a collectible. It's awesome. Yeah, shout out Campbell sending me that soup, it's awesome.
Max just likes to sit there and look at a can of soup. I mean, it's great.
This reminds me of my favorite football player.
All right, so who else? So saquon, you're pumped? Yeah, I mean, Saquon is. I've watched Saquon since he was in college.
He was so electric at Penn State always. I mean that that hurdle against Iowa will always be like one of the coolest plays I've ever seen.
Agreed.
And it sucked having him on the Giants the past x amount of years because he was like such a fan favorite at Penn State. And then when you get them, like, I've always been a. I don't want to pay a running back, don't want to pay a running back guy, but then when you pay the running back and the running back. Saquon Barkley, you just get to watch so many fun highlights.
Yeah.
I mean, like, that's the really the best part of Saquon is like, yesterday, I spent so much time just watching Saquon highlights.
He's got great highlights, too, yeah.
He's awesome and he's the best. I'm so excited.
I like the Swift signing too, because Swift was awesome last year for you guys. Max, you know that, and I think that this is good. It's like, if you've got to pay a running back, I think he's one guy that you should pay.
And like Saquon and Swift, I think are two great signings. Also, Austin Eckler seems like a cool guy, that's what I'll say.
And it's also like, Yes, Saquon is getting older, but he's played behind the worst offensive line every year of his career and he's going to the Eagles. That like, there's some stat that Saquon had the highest percentage of like plays hit behind the line of scrimmage at DeAndre Swift at the least amount of plays hit behind the line of scrimmage. So it's like we could see a Saquon that we haven't seen before.
Do you think Saquon is going to be good for the tush push? I think he might be.
He might be.
Yeah, get behind Jalen and have that ass start working.
I saw a picture of a side-by-side of both Jalen and Saquon's quads. Ass for days. Great, great, great set of legs on those two fellas quads for days, yeah.
We have a it's, yeah, it's free agency frenzy. We have the the Shepter doing the fake deals rapport too, where it's just the agent you give it. Give a little handshake deal. Hey, yeah, I'll report that this is a three-year deal for $40 million.
Yeah, oh, it's actually a one-year deal for 10 million guaranteed.
There's also a weird rumor going on out there. Jamar Chase has kind of fed into it a little bit, he said. I can't wait to tell this story. It's going to be crazy one day, oh.
People are speculating, let the speculation begin. And we all know that wide receivers, amongst all positions, have the weirdest tweets, the most cryptic tweets possible.
Which I love.
A lot of people are thinking, Kirk Cousins leaves Minnesota. Justin Jefferson's not going to be too happy about that.
Oh.
Maybe get a little LSU?
Steve Higgins is looking for a trade as well.
Maybe get a little LSU reunion?
Could you imagine Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase with Joe Burrow? I can't, I can't even imagine.
I can't, I don't know, I can't even.
Can't even imagine it. Yeah, we have all these deals going left and right. My approach for free agency is just if the bears sign someone, I'm like, Yes, they're back, and then anyone else signs them. It's an overpay.
Yeah, that's really how I just judge every single deal.
I'm kind of the same way. My friend J.P. Finlay in D.C. tweeted this out today. When the commanders have added. Like, five defensive players that are all like, nice, maybe like average, slightly above average.
10 million, 12 million dollar deal.
And JP's like, I love this, keep hitting singles, Yeah, it's right, yeah.
You're right. JP. Yeah, keep hitting singles.
Yeah, anyone who's anyone who's signing for less than three years and less than 15 million dollars, it's literally like, great signing, great veteran.
Veteran depth is important in this league.
Yeah, so yeah, it's fun to just what.
Patriots might've solved their QB problem.
Oh yeah, Jacoby reset, yeah.
He's a great player.
That is a good backup. Yeah, that's a very good backup. I don't know Bears Twitter's freaking out right now because Justin Fields, let's just say that.
And the dome?
Might've overrated the fact, might've overrated Justin Fields a little bit and his contract teams don't want to trade for him. But now there's this idea that they're going to keep Justin Fields and draft Caleb Williams. I am very much opposed to that, but that feels like what a potential situation to get the most value out of Justin Fields.
So I, I brought that up a few months ago.
And I said, I didn't like that.
And you said, big cat's been consistent, but big cat? What was my point when I did bring it up was that was that there will be an injury.
Yeah, no, of course.
And then his value is going to go up.
It still makes no sense.
It doesn't make. Oh, by the way, did you see, um, the player in Arkansas state who's named Caleb Fields? No, yeah, and then there's a jersey. There's another guy that's on, I think he's on Fairfield, also named Caleb Fields.
Oh, wow, you can't escape this debate.
Got a lot of them going on.
This debate just lives.
It would, the city of Chicago can't handle having those two guys on the same roster, it would not be good, let alone the locker room. But yeah, I obviously, if if Ryan Pohl's like, I want to get the most value out of Justin Fields, you keep them, yeah.
It's a really bad idea, I'm consistent, it's I remember when you said that to me, I was like, that's a bad idea. Because literally everyone in that locker room has said that Justin Fields is the guy. And if you bring in Caleb Williams, though, you're basically saying, I hope Caleb Williams is so much better than Justin Fields. That everyone will watch him play football and say, Oh, yeah, forget about Justin Fields, we'll put them on the bench.
Maybe two quarterback system, didn't they do that with Spencer, Rattler and Caleb Williams, and everyone was like, Play Caleb.
It was more, Caleb came in and was way better. Yeah, oh yeah, this guy's really good.
Yeah, the fans were like, Play Caleb.
I just, this is just too much hand-wringing, too many signings, too many trades happening, and none of them are Justin Fields, yeah.
Hank brings up a good point, though. The Dome, the Dome in Chicago. Kurt Warner's smiling, his head is spinning. He's so excited about this. Bear weather is dead.
I don't like it, I don't like it. All you, you come to Chicago and and I want to see a bunch of linemen on the bears wearing like cutoff sleeves. We're tougher than the cold.
I wanted a retractable dome and open it whenever it's bad weather. Yes, like, that's what, that's what they should do. If I had a team, that's what I would do. I would, I would have a retractable dome.
I'd keep it closed if it was like, you know, 50 degrees or a rainy, but anytime it dipped below 30, I'd be like, open that up. Let's play some bear weather.
It also just gives so much material to Packers fans.
Well, they're never going to, they're never going to build a stadium.
Vikings.
I know.
Bears.
Yeah.
Dome.
Yeah, yeah.
It's true, Packers put a leg up. Yeah, although they're never going to be, they're never going to build a stadium, so it doesn't even matter.
With the winners in Chicago, it's almost like, also traffic, it doesn't. Yeah. Bear weather might not be as impactful 10 10 years from now.
Like the weather in Chicago this hank, I saw you tweet about it, the winner has.
Yeah, I had it for my cool throne.
The winner has been awesome here.
The bear weather is literally a polar bear sitting on a little ice cap.
Yeah.
Coca-cola in his hand, looking cute as fuck, about to eat a seal.
Yeah.
Like, don't, don't, don't eat that seal. I always feel bad for the seals.
No, it's that they're moving forward, though. What, what else do they have to do?
Who, who fucking knows? They keep saying that about everything. It's going to take forever, and they're probably gonna change it seven more times, and they're going to. It's going to cost us all a shitload of money.
And it's going to be stupid, and it's going to be a joke. I think Bill Williams will fix all these problems.
I think billionaires should pay for their own fucking stadium.
Agreed, that's a spicy tip.
I know, bleep that out, please get a show.
Is your owner even a billionaire?
What is what'd you say?
Are you guys even a billionaires? Uh, I mean, don't you guys like broke boys?
No, I mean, the the Bears are worth multiple billions of dollars, so if they, they are technically billionaires by assets.
But not billionaires.
Oh, no, they don't got cash in the bank.
Okay, no.
Virginia McCaskey goes to the-.
Like, she couldn't pay for her own fucking stadium.
She's got like, Yeah, she's got like 6,000 bucks in there. Yeah, yeah.
Could your owner? Yeah, did he. He spent all that money on the lighthouse.
That's how he got the team in the first place.
Did he pay for his own stadium?
In a way.
I don't know, I'm actually asking, Did he? I don't know, I don't know the answer to that.
I'm sure I don't think any billionaires ever paid for their own stadium.
No, they never do.
But he did buy the the the property which-.
Oh, that's right to the way that he, the way that he got the money was, he bought the parking lot next to the stadium, right?
No, he bought the deed to the property.
Yeah.
The parking lot.
So that if a team was going to buy the team, they're going to have to pay him to operate the whatever stadium.
He's a parking lot billionaire.
So the NFL was like, we'd rather just sell it to you rather than give money.
The key to any new stadium is just two words hotel tax, that's what you just always got to say, we're going to tax the hotels. No one here is like, Oh, fuck.
What the hell?
Yeah, right, it's like tax hotels each, each hotel gets taxed. Play monopoly now.
Who the fuck knows? It's a joke? Uh, all right, what other free agencies talk? Dolphins got gutted.
Yeah, are the dolphins okay?
I don't think so.
I don't think they're okay, I think they're in like, crisis mode, yeah, like Britney Spears shaving her head.
Tyreek also was in another Tyreek Hill, his headlines, They're like mad libs. Now, where it's every month, it's like Tyreek Hill was at a concert and pushed a woman. Tyreek Hill was, uh, waiting in line at McDonald's and got in a fight with a seven year old boy.
Like, it's just I don't know.
73 kids in the last year.
Every headline, I'm just like, Okay, maybe this happened.
No, he's, he's become like the funniest headline guy by far. There was, you remember, that graphic of, uh, like all of his ex-girlfriends and baby mamas, yeah, and they all looked exactly the same.
What, what was the I got to find the most recent one?
Tyreek Hill broke, uh, the woman's leg only fans models leg in backyard football practice.
After getting beat, yeah, like in response to getting smoked.
Tyreek Tyreek Hill gets cooked on a go route, breaks plus size only fan models leg in revenge drill. Yeah.
Tyreek Hill gets crossed up on a basketball court, kicks a dog in the face. Yeah, being sued.
Tyreek Hill Assassinates Archduke, Franz Ferdinand.
Okay, here it is. Here's the most recent one, uh. Tyreek Hill and heated clash at Atlanta comedy gig escalates after his exit. So it sounds like it was.
Tyreek Hill was involved in a heated confrontation at Kevin Hart's comedy gig, which escalated a full-blown brawl after he left.
Uh, okay, so sources close to Dolphin Star where she tells us that after set settling into a seat at the Coca-Cola Roxy Friday, a woman grabbed him, claiming he had taken the seat she had paid for. Like, how does this happen? Mm-hmm, it keeps happening to him.
So yeah, unlucky guy.
Unlucky guy. Um, any other free agency stuff? I just, Yeah, it really is. Just watch, watch the deals, and if your rival gets a deal, you're like, that was an overpay.
We've had I would never pay for a fucking center.
We've had some time to digest the Russell Wilson signing. I don't hate it, I still don't hate it. I think he's cheap.
I'm still in, like, a, uh, it doesn't change anything.
I think he's cheap, I think it's a good division.
And speaking of Schefter saying when he did note that Russell Wilson signed a team friendly deal.
Yep, I like that.
He had no other option, team friendly deal.
He's getting paid a shitload. What are the Broncos doing, by the way? Do the Broncos have a plan at quarterback?
No, I think they're going to gut it too.
Yeah, they have everything.
What were you gonna say? Max? Uh, I was gonna say we didn't bring up Brian Burns. Oh, Brian Burns, Yes, we. we bring it up with Prisco, but Brian Burns. The Panthers new regime is just as bad as the old one.
They traded Brian Burns for a second round pick to the Giants. Uh, a year and a half after the old regime was offered two first rounders for him.
Yep, so smart, awesome, smart work.
Great job.
Uh, the the Vikings signed Sam Darnold.
How stupid is that? But just one last thing, the old regime. If you get two first round picks for anyone, you should take it because then it just extends your job. Yeah, you're like, I have the picks.
Cause then you're going to, yeah, you're going to see how those guys develop.
Yeah.
There's only a handful of people in the N.F.L. that are worth two first round picks, yeah.
How many first round picks would Patrick Mahomes be worth? Seriously? All of them seven.
So the-.
Would it be seven?
Maybe the problem with Patrick Mahomes is that he's become. He's so good at playing football that on an open market, I don't think any football team could afford to pay him to play football.
Yeah, seven.
Seven, seven first round picks. And then probably give him a another like 600 million.
Yeah.
On top of that, that's probably fair, yeah. Patrick Mahomes.
On top of that, uh, yeah, so yeah, you were saying Sam Darnold to the Vikings.
Vikings Is he going to be the starter?
I think he might, although no, the Vikings, it feels like they're going to draft a quarterback.
The Mono Napolis Vikings, Yeah.
That that'll go right off the tongue. No, they're going to draft a quarterback. I feel like the Raiders signing Gardner Minshew, Vikings signing Sam Darnold. It doesn't. I think that's the plan is. We needed, like someone, if the draft doesn't go our way, to be to be sitting here and be like that guy's played quarterback before.
Jimmy G could be that guy.
That's always a smart strategy, just to get someone in the room being like, you know, he has played to go over set to the Patriots.
He's played pretty well, might be the best backup quarterback.
Yeah, the Vikings have the 11th pick, and, uh, the Raiders have the 13th pick. That feels like that could easily be Michael Penix, Bo Nix, J.J. McCarthy.
Yep, we're in that zone.
Yeah, all right, what else? We got? College basketball going crazy. Congratulations to the James Madison Dukes for punching their ticket.
We're dancing baby.
Beat the fuck out of Arkansas state.
Crushed Arkansas state.
Who could root for that?
It wasn't even close. Some people were saying that they were going to spank that ass before the game. No, no, no, the Red Wolves didn't stand a chance. JMU is a really good team.
Yeah, they are, that's the takeaway if you watch them play at all. This year, they had, they had a couple stumbles, but they have the best record in college basketball most wins.
They tried to schedule more quad one, quad two games. Fanta gets into that a little bit with us. No team wants to play them, but they won 31 games this year. Pretty good team I'm. I'm very excited to watch my team play in March Madness because it's it's a treat that a lot of people get to experience year in, year out.
Like Villanova, they play in the tournament every single year without fail, and it's great for those people. It's just you can mark it on your calendar. Villanova is going to be in the NCAA tournament, yep.
And for me, it's like I've gotten to experience this one other time in my life. March has an entirely different smell to it, where you get to look forward to living and dying with your team. So I'm I'm very, very excited about that. But yeah, Conference tournament week is, we're in the thick of it.
Right now, we're balls deep in conference tournament.
I'm just watching some of the shittiest basketball get played. I was watching, Uh, Towson, I think, last night, and, uh, was it Towson? No, no, Towson.
I was watching Towson, Towson played Charleston. Yeah, I was watching Towson. Towson went to the line with. Uh, one and one. With like 20 seconds left, down two and the kid air balled it and I was just like, Yeah.
Yeah, this is fucking March, dude.
It is good, it's good.
Good ass basketball, I'm watching.
I can't wait. I have a pre-fire fest I told you guys about. But I want to say it out loud because I I'm trying to manifest against this happening. I have to be at a wedding that I committed to, like, eight months ago. Unfortunately, it's the Friday of March madness, which is bad timing in general to have a wedding.
I'm convinced that it's going to be JMU playing during that time, so I that time slot. If it's on Friday afternoon, I'm going to be watching on the smallest screen possible. Being antisocial at a wedding, I'm not looking forward to that. I want to be locked in on this game.
If I'm locked in, if I'm locked in, we win, we're going to win two games.
I'm rooting for you.
If I have to watch it on my iPhone, we're going to lose that game, that's how it's going to go.
My pre-fire fest is, I think, and this is a little egotistical, but I do think that, uh, we've seen it. Maybe with the NFL scheduling when they throw what we played on Thursday night. And then I think the what two years ago, the Bears played the Patriots on Monday night. A little egotistical. But I do think they could potentially have Wisconsin play JMU in the first round and Wisconsin would lose that game. Ooh, that'd be fun, without a doubt.
Without a doubt. Well, unless you're there, unless you're there on Friday.
Is there somebody in that room that's an awl?
I don't want it, Wisconsin's going to lose whoever they play in the first round, so I'd rather not.
Cause JMU is.
Although maybe that'd be a great friend move be like, here, here's a bye.
Here's a win, uh, JMU's slotted to be like an 11 or 12, Wisconsin would probably be a six.
Six, but they when they lose in the first round of the Big 10 tournament, there'll be a seven. So that might end it right there. I could, actually. I think they will be a seven because they they've just played so bad. There's there, it's really a bummer.
It's really a bummer. And I I Max is trying to get, Max is doing me, Max is reversing it on me. He's doing what I do to him and I don't like it.
Did he bet on Wisconsin?
No, he goes. I was like, I don't want like, we're going to lose, it doesn't matter we, we stink, we're playing bad basketball. And Max was like, Nah, you'll still believe.
And I'm like, shut up Max, I won't we have to Max Purdue for me to believe?
Max You gotta, you gotta put a substantial bet on Wisconsin.
That would be literally burning money. I didn't say believe, I said you were like, I just want to get it over with right away. Have them lose. But 11 a.m. on Thursday.
But I said it would be better to be Friday, because then you get Thursday is the whole day of, just like watching basketball. Because no matter what, he's going to be a little upset when Wisconsin loses. I'll tell you this, I won't be upset if they lose in the first round of the Big 10 tournament. Which, by the way, you should watch us, we're going to be streaming from Chili's. That moved the schedule.
God's graced us with that, so we have, uh, I think it's one 30 Eastern, No. one 30 central. Time I believe, is when Wisconsin will tip against the winner of Maryland. Rutgers will be live streaming it.
If they lose that game, there will be no hope and I will have no like that will be full. Get it over with cause. Then it's like, they're as bad as I think they are right now.
But, uh, and we also might, we might have to put pug on that stream. Seton Hall.
Yeah.
It's pug ready for the world.
It's pug ready for prime time.
Do you know Hank saying No? I was? I was watching the game with, uh, the nothing pugs, just, Uh, he's, he's, he's, he's a nice pug. But I was watching the best part, Villanova, Creighton with them. And I was. I was trying to fire him up and and and trying to get him fired up on Max, he's just too nice.
I feel like Pug is like his best.
He's like the anti-max with his, with his, he's a normal fan, not over the top.
I like the idea also that it's like, choose your own adventure behind the scenes with Pug. If you're a listener of this show, you get to imagine Pug and what he would be like watching sports. And I don't want to take that away from people.
Ooh, could we maybe get like a microphone set up, uh, behind, like he could hold a microphone behind the cameras? He could just be like, let's go good shot pug that I like a lot.
I like that a lot. All right, we'll get that set up.
He's like the wizard of Oz, but yeah, the man behind the curtain.
Go pirate it pug.
Damn it.
Pug, pug, Yeah, just over and over pug.
Does anybody know where the tradition of cutting down the nets started?
Hmm, probably by Jim Nance.
Yeah.
He started every March.
I know it used to be sponsored by Warner to the official ladder of the NCAA. But 1947 N.C. State, U.H. won the Southern Conference Championship. And Wolfpack coach Everett Case had his players hoist them up so he could cut down the net to keep as a souvenir.
Do you remember the first time that you were like, that's so cool that they have, uh, cut down the nets, like as a kid, yeah, when was it?
It was, it was actually Duke when Duke won the Natty in, Like, 1991, I think.
Okay.
Yeah, I remember seeing that. I'm like, that's awesome, I want to cut down a net, I think. Fun story.
I won a basketball game when I was, like, six years old, where there were probably no rules and actually probably nobody actually won that game. And then I asked my coach if we could cut down the net and he said he said no, they need for the next game.
I cut down the net. 2019 America's Championship when Vermont won.
Oh, they let you cut down the net.
I'll send you out the picture.
I remember, uh, it was when, uh, Syracuse made the final four in 95 96 season and John Wallace got off the uh. He got off the bus with the net in his head, like dangling out of his hat.
That's cool.
And I was like, That's fucking cool.
That's awesome, yeah.
Like that, that that rocks.
Jake isn't that a bit unprofessional, though? Like, as a journalist, you should not be cutting down the net.
You're a traveling member of the team. I think it's valid. Think about it. They get rings.
I don't know.
Where is that net?
It's in my house in Florida, somewhere that you don't know.
I don't know, holy shit, come on, Jake.
But no, think about the voices of the teams, like they get rings.
I don't know you're journalists.
No, that's a different.
No, they're, they're the hometown voice, so they get, they get to be. It's like Hawkeye or Harrelson cutting down the net for CBS. I bet you he's tried.
Definitely.
Wait, is this No? Last year was his last one.
Yeah, no, Jim is. Yeah. So who do we have?
Ian Eagle next up?
We got Ian Eagle. Yeah, okay.
Um, all right.
Let's Noah's probably going to do the nit.
Nah, he's NBC.
Wow, oh okay. Of course, I screwed up my networks.
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I forgot to mention, too. So the Chili stream we're going to be doing on Thursday and then tomorrow we're finally doing it. The pancake bet five o'clock central. We will be going into the gambling cave.
You can watch it on all of our channels. We'll be live for the entire night slate and we will be not leaving until Memes finishes his pancakes, right? unless someone is so bad that Memes laps them. Yeah, has to do 24..
So I have 12.
Big cat, you have six.
Hank Light Work, Zero Remember Comedy.
Yeah, that's right, that's right. So wash memes. You don't strike me as much of an eater.
I can eat.
Oh, are you going to lap somebody?
I've been watching Matt Stoney videos, okay, pancakes, he ate like 118 in eight minutes. I'm a little worried, though, memes, because I've he might be the goat Matt Stoney.
Joey Chestnut is the hot dog goat, but Stoney's like career across multiple foods is undeniable.
Okay, I am not very familiar with Matt Stoney's work.
I went to a cake eating competition with Caleb once.
Oh yeah.
And he ate.
What was that like?
A lot of cake and then, like a strip mall.
I love it, they're always in the worst spot.
Maybe 50 people watching, yeah.
They're always in the worst spots. I'm a little worried, though, because I have been sensing and this is just a little bit of a feeling, Oh, hey, you're right here.
Water go down, yeah, drinking problem.
Water Matt Stoney pound that water memes has lost a little bit of his dog, the dog in him. So I'm worried about this pancake stream.
Why doesn't have as much dog? You don't think? Why not?
Just based off pickup basketball. I was screaming at him on Friday, we're on the same team and he just wasn't. He was so passive and I was like, You're fucking good at basketball, dude, shoot.
Go to the hoop. He just was like, I don't know, I don't know what's wrong with me, and I looked in his eyes and he had no dog left.
I think Memes might be the most underrated, unexpected athlete of all time.
He's got great Euro stuff. Yeah, memes. What would you say to the people saying you don't have dog left? You? I'd say, watch the stream.
Oh, I'm just going to pounds of pancakes.
How many hours set over under?
Are you going to beat Max? Uh, maybe yes.
How many hours?
I'm going to set three, three hours, what? so in three hours you're going to eat 21 pancakes, yeah.
Wow, okay, I'm watching my calories, so I wouldn't hate taking the six hours as well. That doesn't make it well, I guess you eat less.
Yeah, yeah, well, that's kind of a pussy way to do it. I mean, I'm, I'm trying, I'm trying to get strong people around here. People around here are pissed about it.
Max was in the gym crew this morning, I saw him 8 a.m.
Oh, really, yeah.
KB's teaching them how to lift.
I love that. Are we doing? are we doing Olympic style?
Uh, I don't know, I KB was teaching him how to bench press. That's not true, I watched, that's not true.
We didn't even bench, we didn't even bench this morning, bench yesterday. Oh, two days in a row, fuck.
Yeah, no, I mean, I got my fit.
No free ads. Jason Kelsey said that he was doing my fitness ballon county calories, so that's kind of why I decided, Oh, that's beautiful.
I did that once, that's great.
That's great, Hank, how's Dunking going?
Oh, it's good, I'm, I'm, I'm basically started this week or last week.
You basically started this week or last week.
What does basically started mean?
I have a program, uh, and I ordered a bunch of equipment. Some of it's here, not all of it's here, so not everything on the program I can do. But I've been going through the motion plotted jump rope. Uh, I'm talking to a trainer next week to get my baseline and what my vertical is.
I'm talking to Corey G, but I think we're getting help from, uh, optimum nutrition.
Will we give the ad money back when you can't dunk?
No, we should probably write that in the contract, cause I don't want to, I don't want to sell them, something that is not going to happen.
I even forget what the terms of the bets were like. How much money do you? doesn't matter.
He's not going to dunk.
It's like 2000.
If I do it 800, if I lose it, that's not right.
That's not it at all.
Something like that.
I'm pretty sure it's 10 and five, 10 k and five k.
I think it might be 20 and 10.
No, it might be 20 and 10, 20 and eight.
And he could, he could, he could hit all the threes, you could have 25 threes in a row.
And that's true.
Tune into PMTV this week.
Don't tune in.
Hank and I have a very bad visual.
Don't tune in.
Turns out, um, we're not in shape and we probably wouldn't last long. Wow, fuck, let's say we wouldn't last long on a Rick Pitino team.
Nope, we can't say that.
Damn it, damn it. Oh, the stalker did text me, just an update. People were wondering what happened.
Uh, let's see, stalker, stalker, stalker, he said. Congratulations, you went over my head and right to the big guy. Don't think this is over between us.
You glossed over the horrible things you've said and hurt my relationship with coach. It's personal now you claim to come clean, but we're your typical coward self.
Tick, tock, tick, tock, tick tock. Come clean. I'm not going to make it, I'm not going to say it.
He said it, we didn't.
I'm not going to say this, this guy sounds like he's a Pitino hater.
A little bit.
He's like, setting us up for these jokes, guess what? Come clean, tick, tock. I'm not going to go there.
We're not going to fall for it.
We're Rick Pitino's guys, and you know what if this guy wants us to meet somewhere? Because I'd like to settle his hash for? Apparently going against coach, Yeah, this guy sounds like he's a hater.
Yeah.
I agree.
How about that?
Uh, hank, you want to give us your final patriot number seven? And it's the end of the Dynasty documentary this Friday, right? Yeah, yeah, that'll be it.
The Bilbo Check hit piece It's got to finish in a certain way, like it's going to finish just terrible for Bilbo Check.
My guess is that they're going to start by showing two minutes of the RAM Super Bowl, maybe less.
It was very boring.
It's going to be like, Oh, we want another Super Bowl and then just go into drama, which is again.
The breakup?
Kind of ridiculous, but it will be very breakup focused.
I want to know what the Malcolm Butler thing is. Or whatever decision that it says, like Belichick divides the locker room with a questionable decision.
Oh yeah, cause I guess so that that is the next game, so there'll be a lot of focus. It'll be. It'll be way more time when we spent on the Eagles loss than the Rams, which is nonsense.
Brady had, you know, one of the best Super Bowl performances of all time. So I'm sure they'll highlight that game. So that's what they're going to do. He did, Brady, Brady.
He had like 500 yards.
How did Nick Foles do in that game? and also Nick Foles caught a pass.
Brady didn't, but they're going to basically say that Brady played out of mind. He had an unbelievable performance. Except for the reason they lost is because Belichick bench Malcolm Butler, which might be true.
And he fumbled.
But they're not, they're going to focus. Listen, Mack, you're not listening.
Yeah, listen, Max.
They're going to, they're going to shape the documentary, like Brady put out of his mind, The Patriots lost because of Belichick. Then they're going to be like, and we want to Super Bowl the next year, and then it's going to be all drama.
I haven't watched a single one of these, I will probably tune into that one. Yeah, you got to, yeah.
You got to, so Hank, Um, we're going to do seven right now, so your 10 will be complete. And then they actually released these documentaries. I think Thursday nights, we're going to be here late Thursday night.
So Friday we'll start the post documentary top 10.
Okay.
We're done with this.
Like, we should do.
Don't worry, this is it.
We should do it, we should do one where it's like Hank's biggest mistakes, leaving these people out.
All right, go ahead, hank.
Adminitary.
Oh yeah.
This was the one I again, I said, you know, after watching it, I wish I I probably would have changed some things. But he was, you know, won the Raiders game, won two Super Bowls. Most clutch kicker of all time. But if he doesn't go in the Hall of Fame as a patriot, then that changes everything.
So I got pushed back, I got pushed back from that. Just because there was a Colts fan who was like, Um, he played more games for the Colts and he hit the, you know, he broke the record with the Colts. If you think about why adminitary is getting into the Super Bowl, obviously his longevity is incredible. Three Super Bowls, all that, it's the Raiders kick and the Rams kick.
Yeah, those are the kicks, yeah.
And he had a game winner against the Panthers.
Right game winner against the Panthers and he had, I think he had two kicks against the Raiders, right?
Yeah, to go into overtime and in overtime.
And to win it, yeah, he's got the more iconic moments, but then the way that he was talking, like he might be the one that he hates him.
Yeah.
He might have given the football, he might've told the Colts. If you get your hands on a football, keep it and measure the air pressure.
Yeah, and it seemed that way.
Yeah, it seemed that way.
So you got, you got a rat on your list.
Yeah, I would change it if I could, but I. The list has been locked in for for. Before I watched an episode of the documentary.
That's true, yeah. So we'll get the man of integrity.
Uh, honorable mention. Last honorable mention.
Matthew Slater.
Oh, nice, fair, a little shout out. Okay, good job, Hank.
Before we do hot seat, cool throne, I feel like we should talk about this now. Um, I, I let you guys know, like a week and a half ago, that this was a possibility. And it seems like the New York Times is about to report on it. So I wanted to scoop the New York Times, so I just tweeted, or, excuse me, um, my dead dog, Leroy just tweeted it out.
Uh, Aaron Rodgers might run for vice president.
I still don't under. When you told it to me two weeks ago, I processed it and then I was like, that doesn't make any sense. But I'm not saying that you're wrong, I'm saying I still just don't understand it.
It's going to be hilarious if it does happen.
But how?
There's no way, how, how.
He's so, he's being considered and is considering the opportunity right now.
So so, the answer is he won't.
So the second the story breaks, he will say he's not doing, he just wants, he just wants.
People to think he, he wants it to be known, that he was considered.
Maybe, but I'm just I'm allowing my mind to go further down the rabbit hole and think about how funny it would be.
But he's going to play football.
That's the Pft in you.
If he has to leave practice to like attend a debate, or if he has to miss, like the AFC Championship game, because of he's getting inaugurated.
But he wouldn't do that, he would play football.
Probably yes.
That's the part that, just like he would, he just wants everyone to know that he was being considered is what it boils down to. What if he quits football? I don't think he's quitting football.
Meme said No.
I mean, he's got unfinished business. Yeah, I mean, he almost quit for jeopardy, but he wouldn't quit football for a a bid at vice president that will never win in a million years.
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