Jim Harbaugh, Grit Week 2024, Olympics + The Mt Rushmore Of Things Were Too Old For

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Football is so back, too, like going to training camps and just smelling football, hearing, football hearing.

It feels good to be back around football. We've got some awesome interviews coming this week for the Awls, some big time training camps we're going to and we all are dressed ridiculous.

I realized.

I don't know if Max also was in Europe, so he needed new clothes. I packed a single backpack. I love it. Hank maybe cheated a little.

He packed a full clothes, but he's wearing the the bought clothes by Huey today. It dawned on me, though.

You don't want that.

You look sick, I'm the first to admit. There's usually two days a week where I look like I accidentally dressed like a six year old. I'm going to, like kindergarten, basically, I look like Bryce Young walking into barstool.

I get it, that was, it was, it was my last, my last set of clothes that I had available. Actually, what's messed up is last night I set that out, I had two options of what to wear.

I was like, this is my better outfit, so I'll set this out for tomorrow. You went with your winner, I went with my better outfit, yeah.

The other was a A Limi from Motorhead t-shirt, pink shorts. So this?

Hank, what the fuck are you wearing, big cat? And everyone'd be like.

It looks like a cop, he looks like a cop from the Seventies, like a movie about a cop from the Seventies. And they cut to a scene where they're having a barbecue. Yeah, he, no, and he, but he.

It'd be like, Hey, five bucks, she'll give you the best night of your life. It looks like you're standing on the on the street corner, so Hughie's dressing us this.

And I thought that you guys would would bring that up. Yeah, uh, but fortunately, uh, I guess just my normal, ridiculous look covered up for the fact that I'm short.

I don't know what I am, PFT said. I'm wearing a bell.

Hank looks like he's still in bed right now.

But it's just funny coming from Hank, but I'm on Hank's side just to set the stage, so I'll set the stage with like, this is what we do all the time. Okay, all right.

All right, the timing of it was very fun. Tell the story The timing of it was very funny. So, uh, we last week was vacation.

Hank just got back from vacation, and the week before, Hank just got back from vacation on Thursday, Saturday, Saturday, he text flew.

I'm.

It's like, 6 p.m. He's just like, I just want to get ahead of this, I'm really drunk right now. I was like, I don't care, whatever.

So then he shows up, we're about to board, he walks up again. We had just got off vacation. First thing, he says to me, he goes, Not very, very. Yeah. It was pretty much the first. Not long after it was, it was like, Hey, what's up? how are you feeling?

And then he said this, he said. I was looking at Christmas week and how many days.

I was thinking about the show schedule.

That was the first thing he pulled up his calendar. He's like, look at the Christmas week. I was just like, we just got done with the vacation. What are you planning, Hank Yellow trip?

That is, you know, a vacation week. But I was thinking about the show. And like, you know, obviously, depending on when Christmas and New Year's is how we do, the shows differentiates. Because I understand. So I was just looking at, I was, I was throwing out ideas, cause there's a world where we could get.

And football's our job. Yeah, and there's.

We don't have to do. I don't like there isn't going to be Christmas Eve Games, right? There's gonna be Christmas Day Games, yeah, but that's a Wednesday, yeah.

So we would record on Thursday, we'll record on Thursday. Like that does rock and I'm on on. But again, on your side of like, Hank was trying to get two weeks off. We're in the first week of August.

And he's just like.

Oh, you're going to do that. Go ahead, be franny Leiden for a second. This is our second grit week in L.A. that we've done. So we, yeah, I'm sure there'll be people be like, why didn't you go to the Rust belt again?

Although there was a lot of people who were mad that we did Buffalo and Detroit last year again. Uh, we go where the interviews take us. It's like, if you build it, they will come. And we are going to three different training camps and have six unbelievable interviews coming. So that's what we're doing.

And and we also are going to find ways. What's grittier than the Pacific Ocean? Nothing, maybe there's a lot of things, but we're going to try to surf tomorrow and I'm very worried about that, yeah.

That's.

Which is not not the ideal answer. I mean, I want to, we gotta get. We're going to get you in floaties tomorrow in the ocean, either way, people there.

I, it's just. It was funny when I, you know, I, you didn't think about it. But I was looking back and I was like, Oh, wow. Like, if you compared last summer's guests to this summer's, it's right, yeah, yeah, it's way different.

It's crazy, big guy. You do look funny though. you you, you look like a cop, like showing up a undercover and ICP. No, I'm a.

I'm very excited. Uh, awl. Costa Mesa, give us costa mesa, that's where we'll be in that approximate area. So where are they going to? who are they going to contact? Huey?

I don't know about that, who, who, who are they going to reach out to? I think it's gotta be.

Oh, hank, yeah, I get freaky. Oh baby, okay.

How many extra do we need? Hank? I said, male, male first, Yeah, that's true, yeah.

Uh, yeah, we, we. We'd like it to be a couple, generally less creepy that way. Um, and preferably a dog. yeah, dog, so there it is.

Those are our criteria, or we would we would make an exception. If. Rebecca Romaine Stamos, excuse me, Rebecca Romaine O'Connell, Yes, uh, wanted us at her place. Yeah, so it include a picture of your.

So PMT hard knocks at Gmail.

Com Coast to Mesa Area, We W. We want to come to your house and watch hard knocks on Tuesday night. It's one of our favorite things to do every week, it's awesome. Remember the time we went to, um, a house in Milwaukee? And the girl was a big fan? And her boyfriend was like, Who are these dudes that are invited into our house?

That was wild, yeah. She was like, I'm a huge fan and the guy was like, didn't want anything to do with the guard. I'll be upstairs.

It was crazy, it was.

You did, the guy.

Guy guy would be honestly hilarious. it would be very funny. Girl girl would also be hilarious. yes, and then guy, girl.

Okay, okay, okay, and dog, we want a dog, we'd like a dog.

Guy, girl, guy. No, that's, that's not that. that never works.

Uh, we'll bring the bus, it's going to be great. What else do we have? Grit week is we're ready to go, it's upon us.

Chargers training camp was awesome.

I think that building is worth five wins, at least just on.

Yeah, no, great, great, strong, big cat, great neck, great neck.

Uh, I think he thought we were all pussies.

Uh, all right.

Where do we want to start? What a hundred meter dash, a hundred meter dash, a hundred a hundred yard.

No. A hundred meter, a hundred meter, a hundred meter. Noah Lyles with painted fingernails. Could it be the Year of Painted Fingernails?

U.H. wins by 0.

05 of a second. We all watched it and we still don't really understand. We're like, this looks like the Jamaican guy wanting the. The announcer said that as well, completely ruined the moment. Uh, by saying In Jamaican, Jamaica, the Jamaican takes it. Uh, but no. Lyles backed it up, cause he was talking a lot of shit.

I think it was 0.

0005.

It was a period of time that doesn't exist. Yes, ahead of the Jamaican guy, and, uh, yeah, I guess no.

Lyle's big like Anime guy, he's big Ugo guy. Yeah, he's. he's. He called his shot, too.

Now he even said, he's like, Yeah, it's the Olympics, everyone's going to give me my best shot. I should probably run a little harder. And then he went and won the a hundred meters. And USA's on top in gold medals, I think, and total medals, we just dominate.

Yes, him and Joe Biden. A lot of people, a lot of people going on Mount Rushmore these days. Nancy Pelosi is literally trying to end Mount Rushmore season. It's tough.

We won't let her. She probably shorted Mount Rushmore's and then talked about it. Now she's going to buy, she's going to buy, you did mention.

I'd say, everyone knows your dick's too big.

Yeah, um, Jokovic is the Goat one. Gold wasn't on TV, couldn't watch it.

No big deal on on clay beaten, doll beat, uh, beat the whole country of Spain. I was there, you were there, I was there for the winning for Jokovic, you said he'd beaten, beaten it all.

Oh yeah, we had also, uh, John Rahm with an all-time choke, and Scotty Sheffler is Captain America. So he won gold. It was John Rahm was plus five on the back nine.

What a beast.

I think that was the purse for today, really. Yes, and he won, like his caddy won $3,800..

Not sponsored by Live No Olympics, No. He got the gold medal and they gave him like a A cube, yeah.

Is that everyone that's getting that, or is that just golfer? That was the first time I saw someone holding it. It looked like something that you would a villain would steal and die hard, and like Bury underneath the Statue of Liberty. It was like a piece of gold from like Fort Knox that he got to go home with.

Good for Scott. Where where was the, uh, where's the course today? Hank? Do you know? I think it was the same place that the Ryder Cup was at, Oh.

Oh so, it is actually right next to Versailles, then, which is the original.

Les golfes nationaux people were trying to make the Olympic.

Yeah, so if it's the fifth major for tennis.

Um, also. Team USA lost to, Uh, Mickey Mouse in the mixed. I didn't even know they did mixed relays pretty cool, but we lost to, uh, the Netherlands and Mickey Mouse. I don't know if you guys have heard this woman's voice.

Um, nothing will prepare you for it, but here it is. You know exactly what to do indoors? How was?

I feel like for as long as I've been an adult person watching the Olympics. We always dominate the four by 100, except for Jamaica that one time, but I feel like that's a thing that we should dominate, right? It's sad to see, yeah.

Uh, the U. S women's soccer team won, that was a great game. No, they beat Japan. Trinity Rodman, Trinity Rodman, scoring goals all over. Where are we in the tournament?

I think semifinals now, okay, uh, our basketball.

I told.

I think, if.

They both.

Okay, nice, uh oh, 2018, Okay uh. Max, would you like to address the fact that the Phillies suck? They won today?

Okay, and they lost six. I actually was. You're only as good as your last game. I was thinking about it. Is there a chance that you? Uh, like, curse?

You were, you took a week off, you were off on vacation, and the Phillies didn't win a game for the entire time you were off, that's crazy. So I know that sometimes you think that, like this show is a curse to you because you just keep finishing. Second, what if, in a weird twist of fate, if you ever left PMT, you actually would lose everything?

I thought about that, like, be a loser like us and also and B didn't play. Yeah, there was a lot of bad things that were happening to Philly Sports while I was gone.

And there were a couple moments where I was just like sitting, thinking and getting angry. And I was like, I can't be right now. Like, I can't. I can't let this bother me. You can't, you can't be angry while you're holding a baguette, yeah.

So many baguettes, so many baguettes, so many cheats, so much cheese. Uh, you forgot one important team, your Philadelphia water dogs have been eliminated.

But it actually, it does start with Max, because they are the Philadelphia water dogs we never.

This is like, as good as it gets, right.

Okay, yeah, did you break anything? I almost broke my wrist. You basically have a broken end, pretty much like LeBron, but yes, I know.

But I'd like to apologize because going into baseball season, we were trying to figure out which team to bet against every single day. Oh, this is my who's back? Okay, yeah, my who's back.

All right, yep, my who's back? It's we got it. We'll talk every day.

I have some stats every day, I think about it every single day, that.

Okay, uh, Tyree Kill was named number one NFL player.

So this is just hater. I think, yeah, it's. it's because there's a lot.

Correct right now.

Yeah, it's just people that have lost a. Patrick Mahomes, Yeah, and it also opens up, like, if I.

It would not go well for the dolphins. All right, what else in the sports world Hall of Fame? Uh, inductions were this weekend. Devin Hester Uh, that was.

Steven Michael Obviously battling Als very sad, but uh, great that he got the recognition. Yeah, uh, Julius.

Yeah, every kickoff.

Yeah, well, that's so we'll believe them.

I've got one.

Before the show, I was getting my guitar tuned up, I was setting up the amp, all that stuff. And a lady came up to me on the side of the stage. She was probably, I'm going to guess, 45, maybe 50 years old.

She was very obviously there on a bachelorette party, which is the number one reason people go to Nashville. And the beer Games, and the beer Games, of course. And she came up to me and she was saying something, I walked over to her.

I was like, What's that? and she was like motioning over. She's like, I'm on a bachelorette party, it's a scavenger, and I was like, Oh, okay, cool.

Got finished setting some stuff up and she was still there, like, come here, come here. So I walked over to her and she was like, put your number in my phone and I said, I can't do that.

I was like, I'm not, I'm not going to give you my number. And then she was like, I just need it for scavenger hunt, please just give me your number. I was like, I don't know, I can't, I can't check this off.

Like, you're going to have to find somebody else to ask. Then she's like, just put in any number, I don't care, so I can just check it off and say that. So I reached over and just hit in 10 random numbers.

There were people that had cameras out at the time. And it might, and it might look like I gave a 50 year old woman my number. Uh, wanted to just get ahead of this. That's not what happened, so in case that video comes out, I'm ahead of it, that's good.

That's what we call getting ahead of a story, that's.

All right, no, I think we're good. Anything? Okay, great.

We're good. Yeah, you should have put in nine on one, I should have put it in and then just hit Dial.

Well, Hank, I thought you'd be busy. There was another crazy plane lady that went viral this weekend. I thought maybe you'd be reaching out to her. You see, you see the naked plane lady, yeah.

Totally nude, totally nude. Wait, was this one or not? I I think maybe maybe back in her day, okay?

Yeah.

Cannons I don't know respectfully. I did not look respectfully, yeah.

Respectfully.

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Uh, hank, your who's back the week? who's back the week is the Chicago.

Who's back? The week is disgrace. Oh, okay, our our three on three basketball team got eliminated. He sucked.

So bad, Jimmer was hurt, right? I'm going to blame this on Jimmer being played. Oh, Jimmer's hurt. He did not play against Lithuania.

I don't know.

Also, why don't we just send our why isn't Jalen Brown in three and three? I think it's like a different type of training. I don't know, it's disgrace. No, it's like Peyton Pritchard.

Like, just send our next three guys.

We didn't even make it to the knockout stage. Disgrace, absolute disgrace. I. Why isn't Gorky on the team? Good question.

There's a lot of.

Um, all right, what's what's going on? what's going on? Hey Max, I just thought it was funny. Huey, like, loves talking about WNBA.

Oh yeah, if who's back's coming up at the Huey's talking about the WNBA, all right?

What's he doing? Number one on Cameo.

That would rule.

Yes, yeah, let's get John, let's just do a full, full interview, we'll run it.

Yeah, full, all right. Okay, we're going to do that.

Let's write like, 15 questions, Can we? Can we just be? Like, $130 is the most expensive interview we've ever.

Good question.

Okay, yeah, we're going to do that, but yeah, he was.

Wow, he's like mid shaft right now with the Chiefs, and he used to work with Andy in, uh, in Green Bay, right? I believe so. So, I feel like Andy Reed would be the guy. If there's any coach right now in the NFL that does not give a fuck what the what the League office thinks about them is probably Andy Reed.

Yeah, he's too successful.

Yeah, so this doesn't.

The car in front of him ran over a bear, a bear cub like a young bear. And then RFK Jr. pulled over, picked the bear up, put it in the back of his van. It's not very Kennedy like of him, yeah.

You're actually going back to help something that might've been hitting. Yeah, yeah, so stepping out a little bit on that. So he put the bear in the back of his van. Uh, because he was going to skin it and then take the meat later because he had a bear license. As one does.

Okay, so he, uh, he then proceeds to go back to New York. He forgets he's got a steak dinner, Peter Lugers, So he's like, Okay, I'll just duck in for the steak real quick.

I'll leave the dead bear in the back of my van, no big deal. Go inside, eat the steak dinner. Then the dinner ran a little bit long, okay?

So he goes back, he's like, Oh crap, I got to get to the airport. Uh, I don't know what I'm going to do with this dead bear cub that I've got in the back of my van. So then he drives with his buddies that he was just drinking with, or they were drinking.

He drives with them now, it's getting more kennedy like, Yeah, yeah, so they get in the car. And they have a great suggestion that, he says he played along with. Which was to take the bear in Central Park and stage it and make it look like a bicycle. Ran into and killed the bear cub.

Okay, it's a pretty common prank, and many, many bear cubs in Central Park. A lot of them, yeah, so this is going to be a funny thing.

They were doing with the boys. This actually is like a guy's being dudes moment, yeah, like somebody has a bad idea.

All your friends are hammered and then you think that it's a good idea for some reason. So then he drives the bear, the Dead Bear cub, to Central Park, stages it to make it look like it got run over by a bicycle, which I guess would kill a bear. But at the time, there were a bunch of like, bike related fatalities in New York City, okay?

So they were doing that as a joke about, like all the bicyclists hitting people, they're like, even they're, they're hitting bears now. Oh, it was a it was a comment on on site. It was satire, yeah.

Right, yeah, so they they put the bear there, and then, uh, the next day on the news, they wake up and they turn it on. And it's like national news. That a bear cub got run over by a bike as a crime scene. And for the last, I don't know what. What's the date on this?

Can somebody look that up? Like, when it happened, uh? But ever since then, it's been like a big mystery. Why? How did this bear cub die in Central Park? Turns out that RFK Jr.

Put it there. And how did we find this story out today? So we found out today because RFK Jr. was doing a podcast with a Roseanne bar, okay?

And so he found out that the New Yorker was going to write a story about it. Okay, so he was getting ahead of the story by telling Roseanne the whimsical story about how he ran, how he hid the bear carcass in Central Park. Oh my God, 10 years ago, 10 years ago.

Yeah, yeah. So, like for the last 10 years, New Yorkers have been wondering what happened, what happened with this bear? It turns out, RFK.

Okay, I think I don't care at all. Yeah, but it was. It's still a cool story, yeah.

Like here, like I, I actually appreciate.

That's.

Like, if you're going to, there's nothing cooler than having. Like the bear that's standing up, looking like it's going to kill you, baby bear, but like, a tiny little bear is kind of fucked up thing. Yeah, that might be a bigger red flag than putting in the back of your van. Then you put in the back of your van. Like, it's a hostage for 15 hours and you're like, Oh, I can't leave it in my van because it'll smell.

Let's drive from Brooklyn to Central Park to drop it off this. This story doesn't really make sense anymore.

The Chicago White Sox, who are on a 20 game losing streak now. Pft, you mentioned it. But we did have the debate before the season should we bet against the A's of the White Sox? Yeah, it came down to those two teams and we chose incorrectly because we are betting against the A's every day.

And I think we're down eight units, which isn't disastrous. But the White Sox have lost 20 games in a row. They have also have a streak of 14 losses in a row. They're 16 or, sorry, 60 games under 500. If you just erased their 14 game losing streak and their 20 game losing streak, they would still have the worst winning percentage in baseball this year. And and we'd be rich.

And we'd be rich. If you took their 20 game losing streak in 14 game losing streak and magically made them a 20 game winning streak in a 14 game winning streak. They would, they would only go up one spot in the AL Central. It's bad, that's how bad they are, they are so, so bad.

It's, I mean, here's another one. The last White Sox win was closer in time to the Celtics winning the NB.A. finals into. Right now. That's bad, that's really bad I feel.

Only two managers in baseball history have at least 200 games managed for the same team and a winning percentage under three 33, which is insane winning percentage. Pedro Grafal and a guy named Dr. James Prothro, who was a licensed dentist who managed the Phillies during World War Two. Love that.

That guy had to manage the team because everyone was playing, was fighting the Nazis. Yeah, and then it's Pedro Grafal, that's insane. I'm not the step coach.

What would you if you at the start of this losing streak? If you had bet a hundred bucks on them and then you let it ride? What would that total?

21, I think is the.

Yeah, they're 20. I every time I see this happen, I just think of how much more money I would have. They're so bad it's.

And then they were facing Bailey over again. Like, you know, three weeks later and 60 games out is so many games, so many games out. It's ridiculous. 27 wins, 27 wins and we're we're in August, it's insane.

Um, and then my other who's back is, I don't know if you guys saw this. Uh, it was. I'm setting myself up for some insults. But, uh. There was a account called Brooksgate that did a thread of all of the most retweeted and liked, uh, or, yeah, retweeted and tweets of all time by NFL teams. Did you guys see this? So, um, there was some good ones in there, uh, the bears, the bears. One was welcome to the Chicago Bears. Justin Fields.

That hurt a little, uh, the the Bills and the Bengals had. It was all about Demar sending thoughts to Demar Cowboys. One was Jerry Jones taking a knee, which we forgot that he did that. Oh no, it's so great. Yeah, um, and then the one that really hurt me, Hank, you'll get a laugh out of this.

The Packers one is actually, I think the oldest one on this, uh, and it just says it's 42 to nothing Packers. With 14 seconds left in quarter two. That was the game we watched together. Where Aaron Rodgers that was before the juiced Twitter numbers. Yeah, that's from 2014..

Uh, I don't know what the commanders want. Oh, the commanders was when you guys broke the Steelers, uh, undefeated season.

Oh, I don't think the chargers PF Chang's was on there.

Oh, no, that's brutal. The number one liked favorited tweet by the Eagles is celebrating someone else's Super Bowl. We respect Andy. I love Andy. I'm happy that he won the Super Bowl.

You can't, you can't start. No respect. Uh, yours, Patriots was congratulations to the greatest of all time. Uh oh, that's another one. That was after the Bucks won the Super Bowl. Brutal.

I thought the Patriots one would be when they accidentally tweeted out a racial slur out of six rules, yeah.

The.

Yeah, Stanford University, yeah.

He is conscious.

Let's see, it's fun, it's a fun little trip down, uh, memory lane. Oh yeah, the Jaguars happy jeans.

Friday, everyone's Jaguars had a good one about, just like shitting on the Steelers. Uh, I'm looking for the Panthers. I'm looking for the Panthers. Someone give me a line.

Oh, panthers, uh, it was lou keekly retiring. Okay, thank you a lot of that.

Yeah, yeah, a lot of that, and then, uh, obviously Demar had a lot, uh, okay.

Huey, you're who's back? Yeah, my who's back is a Ohio state fans back on their bullshit. Um, all the after all the allegations coming out today of uh of uh, coach more findings, uh findings. No, it's allegations.

What were the findings? He deleted a couple of text messages in regard to Connor Stallions and his possible knowledge on the 52 text messages. That's not as much as 200. And so, you know, he's just doing his, his job is due diligence. Um, I don't think anything, and I know this is going to be any. It's not going to be a big deal past today.

Yeah, flip on the radar. Yeah, yeah, I think I know what he's talking about today.

They also confirmed the counter Stallions was on a Central Michigan sideline. That's good for them. That program, the Mac, needs a lot of help. Yup, that program is going to be a powerhouse.

Yeah, it.

I we have a relationship with coach Harbaugh. I really didn't feel like being like, Hey, putting on our big J hats going on with Sharon Moore? Yeah, listen, we're here to.

That was wasn't his brother created a firm something about his brother and.

I mean, there's a chance of Ohio State beat up Michigan the last two years. We don't even know Connor Stallion's name. That's true. Good point, good point.

Huey, you acquitted yourself quite.

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And now here's coach Harbaugh.

You know how Grit Week works, so you've given us this answer before, but it's been a while. Uh, how would you define grit? I would, I would define it as, uh, you know.

Um, well, I mean, there's.

Um, you know, for example, yeah, that come from behind, come from behind. Win is even, you know, nothing makes you feel better than that, or that win. Where you did it in an opposing stadium, you know, and you, you feel like you, you know, your. Your team walked in there and, uh, you know, the fans were against you, you know, and it was just you overcame that. Um, some tough environments that there's just no better feeling than coming out of a, uh, with a win in a place like that. Yeah, and then if you can throw the elements in, you know? There's some like, you know, real real cold, or real real hot. Or, uh, you know, some rain coming down sideways. And you feel like you overcame the elements as well, you know, yeah, to overcome an opponent, overcome them in their stadium and to overcome them in their stadium with the elements. Then I would say, Yeah, there's nothing that would make you feel more.

I wanted to ask you, though, like, how hard was that decision to go come back to the NFL? Leaving Michigan? You, you went there, you proved everything you you set out to prove took a while, but it did, you did. It beat Ohio State three years in a row national title, but was it? Was it tough?

Cause that is, I assume, your dream job. But to then be like, I got to leave this and come back to the NFL, was that a tough decision?

And um.

So that's, uh, that was the, that was the overarching. Yeah, I would say, there's only, there's only, there's only so many sands left in the hourglass, you know? So, uh, yeah, I want to, I want, I want to. I shot at that. I want to see if, uh, you know, we we could let you know, see if we can, uh, stand up to that.

And um, so yeah, it's been, it's been, it's been hard, you know, uh, and this is, this is, this is. My two great loves that I have in my life is my family at home, you know, and my family at work. And and there's there was that Michigan family.

Uh, and also my dad lived right next door to me in Ann Arbor. And maybe the toughest thing of all, you know, uh, has been that, uh, you know, they, they haven't, they haven't moved out here. And mom and dad, I hope you, please, please, I need you living next door to us, here in, uh, in, uh, Los Angeles. Um, but I gotta say this, this family I have here at work, I love these guys, I love these guys, and, um, that's players.

That's the coaching staff we put together, I mean, just tremendous all-star staff. Um, I know it, I know that, and the entire organization. I mean equipment room, the ownership, um, you know, the trainer, uh, the doctors, the grounds crew, i mean, everybody here. John Wiedemeyer, Christina, Uh, Marco, on and on and on the. And. I finally put my finger on it, which is why. Why do I love these?

Why do I love these? Everybody here so much, so fast? And and it's if I had to say one thing. It's just that everybody here treats their job like it's the most important job in the entire organization. And, uh, you know, they are just, you know, double check it, triple check it.

Uh, you know, they just, they just, they want to be, they want to be so good. Um, that, you know, I, I just love that. Everybody, players and all are doing everything, anything and everything in their power to to try to make this team win and be successful.

Would automatically think that I think it's been said, and, uh, yeah, you know, that's, that's, that's part of it. Yeah, um, but we know you, it's gotta be a little part. I'm not denying that.

Yeah, I mean, uh, but uh, yeah, I gotta say that. um, and maybe maybe. But, um, you know, I know. Everybody says, you gotta do, you gotta do one thing first, you gotta make the first birdie before you can, you know, do anything else. But, uh, yeah, it's it's so good here.

Um, this entire organization, the the Spanos family. Joe Joe Ortiz, My brother said, I would love Joe. That's what he said. Oh, you're gonna love Joe, you're gonna love working with Joe. Uh, he undersold him.

He undersold I, I. He's the one of the best evaluators in the game. I don't think there's anybody better. Uh, after going through this off season and draft with George. And he's, he's he. He is who he is every day, and, uh, he pulls the best out of people. Uh, it's just. It's just been spectacular.

He could, those draft meetings we had, I mean, there could be like a Ted talk of, you know, just the leadership style that that he has. Uh, you know, he's a he's a normal guy, He's a football guy. Yeah, he's a grit, weak guy, you know? Um, so my brother, he did say I'd love him.

Maybe there's. To me, it's like he's still undersold it. You know what? I mean, how much I'm gonna love Joe Hortiz. So, uh, you know, that's been amazing, just everything's amazing.

If, if, if it goes good, it's got to be because because there's everything is in place. And the players that we have and we can start talking about those guys too. But uh, and if it goes bad, or because I'm a bad manager? But, uh, yeah, we're we're chipping away at it, and.

Could I read it to you? It was the nicest ever, you wrote back. I sent you the video, uh, of you high old highlights, you in a Bears uniform, all this stuff, and you said, Thanks, cool.

All glory to God. Sure do value our football and family relationships and good times, cherish them. Thanks for caring and supporting.

There are enough doubters and haters in the world. Much respect and gratitude for you and yours. That was the nicest. I don't care about this.

No, I, I appreciate you both. I mean, big cat. PFT commentator Uh, I mean, there are, there's so many, there's so many young people. And I don't know everything you do and say, Um, but what I do know is like, people, there's a. There's like a whole young generation of people that like, Uh, oh, you're a football guy here, you're a football guy, you know, we know you.

And I go and I like, I asked a couple of, like, you know? like, do you know me? I mean, what do you? Well, we watch, you know, we watch Big Cat and PFT counter. So I appreciate, I appreciate the wonder, all the wonderful things you said about, uh, our family. Yeah, so I met, I met every word of that.

And uh, and I know my brother John feels the same way, and uh, and my dad, Jack Jack Harbaugh, uh, who's doing great, I mean.

I mean.

And, um, I said, Okay, well, if I do that, you're going to, you're going to come, right? You're going to come to Ann Arbor, and you're going to, you're going to, you're going to help me coach. And he said the last thing he said is that he would, and, uh, and I, I got him, you know, I got him saying that, and then it took a full 12 months before he actually did, you know.

Um, so I'm hopeful, I'm hopeful that, uh, you know that, that that it will find a way here in a year. And uh, yeah, I'll. I'll do anything, I'll just buy a house next to next to my house. I got this new facility.

I mean, my kids would would be down there and, uh, you know, my dad would take kids to school, uh, he would go to their games. Um, you know, the the conversations, you know, driving, you know, my son Jack to his baseball games, me and my dad watching baseball games. It's like we were at the Church of Baseball, you know, in the in the summer time, uh, watching watching games on Sunday. That, uh, I mean, that was just just just priceless.

I mean, I just got to the point where, you know, I'm, I'm taping those, those. Um, those conversations. That's my favorite part is the ride to the game and the ride back. You know, just talking to, talking to Jack, or to Addie, or to Katie, or to Johnny. Um, I love those conversations. I really don't even care that much what happens during the game. I mean, the best time for me is the ride to and the ride back.

And my dad would be right there. Yeah, you know, so often it was just the three of us doing that. It's just it's priceless, it's, it's, it's completely priceless.

Well, unless you catch a foul ball at the game, that's probably better, right? That's good, too. Are you still wearing a glove? Oh yeah, absolutely, you gotta wear a glove when you go to MLB.

Yeah, yeah, I always wear a glove. I mean, that's like your chances improve dramatically. If you have a glove at a baseball game, there's no question about it.

Success is when preparation meets opportunity, right? Yeah, I just got to change. I mean, it's just I've only gotten one foul ball, I've got 22 career foul balls. Like, legitimately in a game, a foul ball, a home run, but it happened like during the game, not batting practice.

Boy, I don't count those, so, uh, but and I really, I've only gotten one in the last 10 years. Oh, some people are saying, you've fallen off, yeah, yeah.

It's, it's, uh, it's I. I've done it to myself, really. I mean, I get, uh. I got on a lot of games. Bob Melvin's a really good friend of mine. Uh, played on the same, uh uh, uh, you know team. uh, um, wait, what's the American Legion team? When we were in high school?

He was a couple of years older, but uh, and he was the star player and I wasn't. But uh, anyway, he's been great to me. And, uh, it just went to the Angels game. I mean, they were great to me, you know, Padres? I got to know some people there. They get me, the tickets, they get me are too good. Oh, they're too good.

Yeah, they're in a spot where you just, I mean, your percentage of getting a foul ball is. I mean, you would have to like, you would like have the nets now. Yeah, it would have to hit off and then bounce back, so you got to ask for the worst tickets.

I got to get worse. Yeah, I mean, I'm in a suite and the only chance I got is if the if the ball were to come through the suite. You know, just over, just over the screen, are you bringing it up to the suite? Yeah.

I'm ready, I'm ready, but I mean, I just got. I'm not putting myself in position. to be in position. Yeah, we got to get.

I know.

Yeah, I'd say just, I just want them for you know, for you know, maybe, you know, just some some time down the down the road. That those, those, those rides to the car. Listen to them talk about the game. Or, uh, you know what they were doing, or the excitement of, you know, like, uh, that they had. It's the best. Yeah, and I always got to get my I. I now I got to call my dad and I. I got, uh, you know, to be taping it, taping it.

Uh, and uh, which is I can do, cause it comes through the comes through the car. But yeah, that was just. This is priceless, those are, that's, that's just priceless moments. And uh, and my mom too, she's, uh, I mean, she's just. They just give this wisdom and and stuff. Um, that if, yeah, if I don't write it down, I'm going to forget it. But, uh, my mom's. My mom actually has given me the best advice I've ever gotten as a player or a coach. And that is, you know, it's one play at a time, one game at a time, one day at a time.

And she texts me that every before every single game, they're like the morning of every game. I mean, I need that text. Yeah, there's one play at a time.

Anything big that's changed in the NFL from the way that you did business back on the niners.

It is, it is two X, at least in popularity, and you know, you can see in what the what the the salary cap is twice as much. Um, and just the popularity of the game of football. I mean, it's, it's. It's awesome and right around that time too. Just as a perception of football, too, and the fun that everybody has in the popularity. I saw it firsthand.

Um, and back then there was, there was a football, had a little bit of, I mean, had a bit of a crisis back then. You know, with, uh, you know, is it too dangerous, is it too too much of a sport? That, um, you know, that that a mother wouldn't want their their son to play, and, um, you know? And then I went into the college ranks in 2015 and I saw, you know, just growing from there. And everywhere I went around the country. It's like, well, football, football is popular, it's never been as popular, you know? It's like, and it was it just, uh. And and a lot of the rule changes have been good.

I mean, it's definitely, it's definitely a safer game. Um, you know, the horse collars out the blows to the head. I mean, some of these rules of engagement, uh, you know, are are so good and so much better. And you know, player safety is the is the most important thing. But I, I just see it coming, coming back and they're doing, they're doing all the right things. And um, you know, the uh uh, commissioner Goodell has done a fabulous job.

Uh, Brian Rolap, I don't know if you know him, he's another, another great, great guy at the NFL. Uh, um, you know, very high up. I had a chance to to coach his son Will at Michigan. And, uh, I mean, there's there's this fabulous people that, uh, have made this league and everybody's made it.

And, uh, you know, the the players, there's no question they're bigger, stronger.

Faster, smarter, no question about that, um.

You know, we us older players, guys who played a long time ago, we still maybe say, Are they tougher? are they tougher? I don't know. I have no, you know, it's all subjective.

Yeah, uh, we probably aren't as tough as these guys are because they're, you know, they're just so much more harder to break. You know, cause the way they train, you know, and coach. Herbert, uh, and and others, you know this. And just just their, you know, passion, love and desire for the game is is is at an all time high as well. Uh, I'll tell you a quick story. Zion Johnson, who, um, is our starting left guard. He had a root canal. Uh, at two o'clock. I think he got done at like two, two, 30, you know, uh, and was out to practice practice, you know, didn't miss a rep.

And then, uh, we do. We did conditioning. At the end, you know, we say, hey, if you're elite condition, go on this sideline. Hey, if you're in good condition, you know, go on sideline B. If you're in average condition, you know, go on sideline C.

And, uh, he went to a, and, you know, led the group, led the offensive, uh, excuse me, led the offensive lineman. Uh, it's just like, Okay, who would have done that? Yeah, I mean, I mean, most normal human beings probably would have taken a week off.

Most football players, you know, most all football players. Would have at least taken a couple of days, you know, of your root canal, yeah. And, uh, and just about all would have at least taken that practice off. You know, an hour or so after. So, I mean, I can't even say that we were tougher back then. Um, so what's what's really changed? uh, and the equipment's changed, and the equipment is is much better.

Uh, but I think, you know, still, the still the same as, uh, is the. The work ethic. And you know, the passion to be good. And you know, get really good at at what you do, get good at football, get good at your craft. So, uh, a couple of things have changed, but I think more things are, more things are the same.

How much did that rise? We always say, grow the game, that's the big thing for us. So yeah, good.

Well, take a deep, long bow. I believe that there's no doubt, I mean.

There's no question about it. There's, you know, yeah, like I said, I mean, all of a sudden I got, you know, like, got, uh, got, kind of got. Kind of popular for, you know, people in their late teens or twenties. And and uh, no one knew what football was until part of my take started. I can personally vouch for you, cause I asked, like several people and players, my own players were like, starting to look at me like I was cool.

You know, like, I started calling myself Cool gym, like these guys think, cool gym, cool gym now and I I in big part to, uh, to you, we appreciate that, I appreciate, I appreciate, I appreciate you, yeah.

I love that, so what?

Well, man, yeah, he created a creative mind. Sam actually sent me, I asked him, cause, you know, we've known Sam for a really long time and I think he actually helped us. The first time we had you on, UH, back in Michigan in 2017, yeah, so I asked him if he had any training camp. Uh, stories.

He said that you have three rules. I don't know if you still have these three rules for training camp, so you can tell me, he said. The first rule was no cupcaking, which is talking with your girl on the phone during bed check. Uh, number two is never cut the chow line and number number three.

We had to make that a rule.

He also said.

He told us, Sometimes you, you talk to them and they're like, Are they even listening? yeah.

Yeah, I mean, just just the traditions that weren't helping us win, right? Uh, is the ones I remember, you know, there, there. How is that helping us to do that? Um, and and one of them, I mean, one of them, was like, if they had like, you know, uh, cause I always have this. I mean, there's no fighting.

There's penalty to ever, to ever punch another man. But like, I mean, let's think about, I mean, the intelligence of punching a guy who's wearing a helmet, or, you know, a face mask. I mean, you will do nothing to him other than, you know, break your, break your own hand. Yeah, so yeah, that that was real.

Then, you know, the ingenious Stanford, uh guys, uh, you know, they decided that they were going to since we. They couldn't fight, you know, and throw punches on the field. That they would take it into the locker room and they would make a circle, and they would make the two guys fight in the locker room. So, uh, yeah, I got wind of that. And and uh, that tradition, done, ceases to exist, you know? And some of the other sophomore things that, uh, you know, that weren't helping us, uh, they had, they, we had. Uh, yeah, that Stanford, uh, the Stanford walk was another one. That, um, yeah, that I I took out was, which was, you know, kind of like, right at the last minute. Before, like, team warmups, you know, we were walking, we're walking kind of like a half a mile in full equipment, and, uh, you know, yeah, let's not do that, yeah.

Yeah, how about how do we do this? We make our locker room at the stadium better, you know, and we, you know, we walk over in the in the sweatsuit, kept the walk, you know, we walk them by the the grove there. And, uh, you know, shaded, nice, you know. Leisurely stroll instead of, you know, being in full equipment for for a 15 minute walk.

I think that's a better idea. Yeah, I wouldn't want to do that. No, and the other one, I think it changed, too, was, Um, you know, uh, we were playing UCLA, my first game ever at Stanford.

And, um, we're on the visitor sideline. Uh, you know, staring right into the sun. It was the least I'm looking at this going. That's about 20 degrees cooler on that other side where the press box is. And we're here in the we're in the sun for, you know, a good solid three quarters, you know, until the sun goes down, until we got any relief. So, uh, well, we couldn't do that because, you know, the band had to be in the opposite side.

And uh, and uh, or some, you know, that was the thing. We just moved the here's what we do, we just moved to the band to the other corner and just get us in the shade. Yeah, well, the season ticket holders, they're going to love having their own team on their sideline.

You know, I love winning football. Yeah, those were, those are the traditions. I remember some of the some of the silly, there was some silly stuff, and then there was some just some good, practical stuff to.