Long Time Friend Tony Scheffler, Bills GM Brandon Beane, Mt Rushmore Of Trilogies And Listener FAQ's

Hey, Pardon my Take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music on today's Pardon My Take. We have a twofer for the people. One of our favorite old-time recurring guests, Real Awl's know Tony Scheffler, has been a friend of the program from since the very beginning. We had a great time talking with him.

Recurring guest?

Recurring guest? We have had him on as well. We are going to do the Mount Rushmore of trilogies. And it was a doozy.

Hank's Baby Hank has been pressing for this one for a while, so hopefully he steps it up and has a great round of trilogies.

I mean, no one else fucking suggests anything.

We should maybe for this-.

That's a little early in the show to be using profanity.

For this Mount Rushmore, we should maybe do a fourth option on the voting of Like, we all awl's lost.

I'm down with that.

Give them two wins, two points, but we have, we're going to talk some ball. We got some who's or sorry. Hot seat, cool throne and some FAQs, it's all brought to you by our friends at Paramount Plus.

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Pardon my take.

Welcome to part of my take. Today is Wednesday, August 23rd, and the Washington Commanders have had the biggest win in preseason history. We did it, we did it, Joe, we stopped the.

Streak Unbelievable. It was actually a very entertaining Monday night game it was. I don't know if you guys watched it all through the end.

My book, No One's dragging him through the mud. It was a cringy, weird moment by a billionaire who? I believe that all billionaires are weird, that you don't get to a billionaire without being a little weird. Yeah. And it was also Josh Harris's reaction afterwards when he realized I fucked up.

That's a good day. It is, it's on. Joe Buck. Joe Buck stuck his hand right in his chest. Joe Buck was in the zone.

I can't stop, pull it up for me, Hank. I want to watch it again, Jahan Dotson said afterwards. I feel like we just had the biggest preseason win in history. I'm watching it again real quick.

It's on the hips afterwards, it's just a bad look in general. Played it off, played it cool.

It was just a limp handshake, too. Oh no, he like, tagged his fingers. What was Joe Buck's hand doing?

There, he was doing his job, he was asking for it, he was broadcasting. Joe should apologize.

Are you a little worried that the maybe the reaction to a preseason win was a little much? I mean, it was cool because outside of the fact that I also bet on the Ravens, it was cool because it is new. Owner. Like, feels like the vibes are back in D.C. But um, Joey Slide doing the L, Yeah. Johan Dotson saying It's the biggest win in preseason history.

Receivers get turf toe. Uh, Terry McLaurin might've gotten turned. Yeah, that's important.

I feel like preseason wins don't matter, it's really just everyone. Check your body.

Make sure that you're still alive. Yeah, well, Terry got injured, but it wasn't. It wasn't like we were keeping our starters in to win the game, so it's not like we played the starters because we were on a mission to win. It was like, yeah, we're going to try to win the game, just with Jake from the game.

All your starters in against the second and 13 Ravens? I don't, I can't comment on that.

All I was thinking about was the Ravens backups. I was just, I see Josh Johnson out there and I'm going to have to find his forever home. He's a very good boy, he's such a good boy, somebody.

Just take him in for life. The scene was great and it was very funny. Because afterwards, like with Joey Slide doing the L and everything. I would imagine getting into the locker room after. And they're like, going crazy, and then someone's like, Wait, it's preseason, Well, it's just.

It was fun to win one, it was, it was about way more than this game. You're practicing winning.

Yeah, exactly. You gotta, you gotta do a dress up rehearsal for, you know, before you do the rehearsal, dinner and everything. You gotta walk through the wedding, you gotta walk and see how.

Our former GM said We're very good at winning off the field. We've been consistently winning off the field. Now it's time to turn it to on the field. But yeah, it was just. It was about much more than that. One game in particular, and just seeing the crowd be into a football game, what's cool?

He Magic Johnson, say what you will about Magic Johnson. He's got AIDs. No, uh, he vacations better than anyone in the world. He does. I think he's been on a yacht for three months straight.

It's pretty ironic, ironic name that he has. I I I clip pops in my head of Donald Sterling.

At least once a month. And so, you know how your brain is riddled by the internet. We've all been poisoned and you just have random things pop in your head. Why is that? I don't know, but I can't.

Well, he has, he's a business person, he, he's got AIDs. Yeah, he put it in. Uh, all right.

Other things started magic. uh, yeah, uh, other things. We're not watching hard knocks tonight.

Should we say what happened? Uh, yeah, uh, Aaron Rogers hugged a few guys. Uh, the offensive line still looks bad. Nathaniel Hackett said Something funny.

Guy with a beard screamed at somebody, Hmm, oh yeah. Offensive line did definitely focus on that. Aaron Rogers.

It'd be like Zach Wilson and Rogers bonding and then Zach Wilson playing good.

Yeah, uh, so I'm. I'm going back and looking at what Aaron Rogers said about Zach Wilson. And I'm thinking to myself, you know? He said. Like, I'm going to be here for the next couple of years, then hopefully turn it over to Zach for the next 15, 20 years. That's a great run of quarterbacks. I think Aaron was being sarcastic when he said that he might've been. I think he was laying the praise on a little bit thick and having a big joke on everybody being like, Yeah, he's a.

Quarterback for the next 15.

ROGERS All right, so so, just to be clear. Um, the ghost telling you to bet on Aaron Rogers, that's not a bit. No, that was okay, that that one's the real part.

If a go, if I win a ghost bet, a ghost tells me to bet something and I win it.

The first pick the ghost gives. So I would watch hard knocks. If every week it was the mentalist was on it with a different team, they should just do hard knocks, it was the mentalist guys flipping.

Out, um, all right, other stories. No, it's O's, so you literally came on the show.

To be like, it was actually the grass. No, that's a guy just taking accountability. He's a better man than me. I'll let him take control, I'll be the one giving him excuses.

You did. Do you want to take accountability for laughing at us, for laughing at your own Bettas?

Rams Fuck off, Okay. I mean, you didn't apologize for when you said that you were doing your victory laps over because people didn't respect him, Ross?

That wasn't an apology. Uh, Jalen hurts. Yeah, he's, he's demanding people tell him that he was.

The reason they lost? I mean, you'd rather have it be that way than the other agreed, but he was.

Not the reason they lost. Yeah, he was not well, it's not getting a sack, that fumble that he had.

Was pretty bad, it was a very bad fumble. Colin Coward also left him and A.J. Brown off the top 10.

List and that that triggered. But in terms of like, quarterback, wide receiver combos, I like it. That's that's Coward's game, man, you gotta understand, Coward's game is he will take one combo.

We should start taking like top five quarterbacks in the league right now. Sam Howell, Josh Allen, Sam Howell, No, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Jalen Hurts.

It's genius, just put it on a graphic. Hey, by the way, Memes I know you're on a performance improvement plan right now. Memes Through Us is on a PIp. I just want to make a note.

That was fucked all right? So we need both those graphics, we need the top five quarterbacks, and then we need, uh, us giving a vote of confidence to the Yankees. Unfortunately, Shane our graphics.

Full plate whipping up photoshops of Bryce Young in ISIS and, uh, Sam Howell in the Taliban and C.J. Stroud as the Proud Boys. I actually got some a lot of AWs. I love you guys. They sent me a lot of other recommendations for names for quarterback fan clubs. Joe Burrow, The Joe's Keepers.

Memes, his Photoshop. Uh, last thing I had, well, I had two last things. Before we get to Hot sequel Throne, Do you guys have Trayvon Diggs on your Hot sequel Throne? I did not okay.

This is a topic, all right. So it's a naked woman wearing a strap on, yes, like large strap.

Like the picture wasn't an enlarged, no, like he could only see, he could only see, like the whole thing, no, but that's what the picture enlarged. I'm saying, maybe he scrolled it on his feed.

Open to expand. It's good you should be as a lawyer. Yeah, smart.

We'll get to him and then the last thing is I. There's another story about people yelling at golfers while they're trying to golf. John Rom came out and said that there were people yelling in his backswing for bets and everything. Why doesn't golf? Just everyone should get to yell?

Where you're not allowed to scream while the point's going on, right? Some concentrate. Any other sport you can yell. And I also, although Max did call that one guy a clown, yeah.

Irks me whenever it's like this new fad that, uh, professional athletes are like, this gambling thing is going to. It's going to be a problem with fans like Bet. First of all, fans were betting before, just so, you know, and second, if you like the TV deals, you should like gambling. Sorry about your parlay, yeah.

You, what do you think is a bigger culprit for people screaming out at inappropriate times or yelling inappropriate things? Would you say it's gambling, or would you say it's drinking? It's?

Probably drinking, but we're not talking about getting rid of that. Yes, yeah, oh, that's a good.

Point I love drinking and gambling. Yes, let us just do both, it's the best.

Gambling? It's awesome. Yeah, it is fun. Um, oh, and I had one, I had one. Dudes rock.

He says I have no wife to answer to. Yeah, no shit. Um, I kind of want to buy this house, yeah.

That is a bargain. Oh man, what a dude's rock fuck pug winkler, too. How do you get the name pug?

Start calling Evan Pug, um, one more thing. Unfortunately, this might be the last episode of part of my take, with everybody in this room still alive. You guys tease this and I'm very, very, so so big cat. Myself and Hank, we're all staying in a hotel, we're in New York right now, back at the old office.

Is it contagious? Well, it's also in the AC units.

It's like 10 of the AC. I brushed my teeth twice and I took two showers, two showers last night.

And today, I saw, I saw Kate yesterday, I saw Kate earlier today, and she goes, Yeah, I didn't know that it had that until afterwards, but I took two 30 minute long hot showers. At least she's not.

Pregnant legionnaires disease people get sick when they breathe in small droplets of water, accidentally swallow water containing legionella into the lungs. Oh yeah, it doesn't sound good.

From person to person. When I first saw it, I was like, sick. We're all going to get jacked up like. This is like a military disease that you get make maybe lose a lot of body weight, get some.

Six packs. Most people, many people exposed to the bacteria, don't develop symptoms. Okay, yeah.

We're fine. Apparently, it's one of those diseases that's like, almost entirely.

Jesus, I did a. I did the The Hollywood workout today, I went to my old gym and did not even go into the gym. Did sauna, steam, hot tub, shower.

That counts as a workout, best if you, as long as your body gets in the sweat mode.

You're burning calories. Yeah, I felt great coming out, all right. Uh, let's do hot seat, cool throne, and then we'll get to our great interviews. Hot seat, cool throne is brought to.

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Cool Throne, my hot seat is scooter Braun. What happened? He got dropped by biebs, he got dropped.

By Adina Menzel The Frozen Woman. Yeah, you nailed that one. I honestly only know her through the commercials, like the Geico commercial, Let it go. Yeah, Adina Menzel.

It sounds like collusion. He had the beef with Taylor. I was doing a little bit of article before I, you were doing a little article, a little bit of reading an article.

I respect Taylor Swift, I want to say that on record for all the Swifties out there.

Did you see the video of her at LBI? Yeah, that was the most insane thing. They shut down the entire street, yeah.

Now does she weaponize social media because we've been accused of that?

I didn't say that, I didn't say that, I never said that.

So then she's fine.

She is a terrorist, but she's very good. She's like the best terrorist to ever exist.

Yeah, do you think Taylor Swift could successfully have a coup of the government?

Yeah, for sure.

I do too, I actually do too.

Imagine if there were a million swifties, like a million 25-year-old girls storming the Capitol? Yeah.

I mean, it's like 15 to 40.

And it's guys, too, and eras, yeah.

Oh, Belichick loves her.

It would be a situation where, if she did a coup, and the U.

Yeah, it'd be so easy. All she would have to do is just accuse Joe Biden of being mean.

Or falling asleep?

Why are you so mean to me, Joe? And then her fan base would be like, Honestly, Biden is toxic.

She's Facebook.

She is.

Yeah, okay, good hot seat.

I had another one, the Midwest Heat Dome.

Heat dome. I just told you about this.

And I looked it up, I did another article.

It's crazy, it's nuts, Heat Dome is crazy.

I just love the term heat dome. Yeah, I'm down to get some heat dome.

The fact that there's no looking at the map where there's no clouds whatsoever in the middle of the country is Nuts Heat dome.

Heat Dome baby.

The weather's global warming's been going off.

You don't believe in weather.

I saw a trailer when I was a kid, when I was just a youth, for Inconvenient Truth. And I thought it was a sci-fi movie. And I was like, Mom, I want to go see this movie, and she was like, Wow.

I'm so like, Thank you for taking me, Henry. You finally showed some interest.

And I went and watched it. I was like, What the fuck is this?

Yeah, you accidentally learned something.

Yeah, I was pissed, that's right. Are you a Queen? Ever since then, it's been like, this shit's been real.

There's nothing worse than getting tricked into learning. Yeah, absolutely.

It's like, going to a museum and you're like, what the fuck?

Yeah, this sucks.

You're gonna trick me here, come on, you're gonna learn. You get the audio companion power through it.

But the Heat Dome, it's such a cool name and I think it's probably gonna suck to actually be in it. Yeah, it's only two days. They need to give it a less cool name.

Yeah, or thundersnow?

Thundersnow, the thunderquake. Yeah, I want to be involved in something called the Heat Dome. Gabrielle Union, Chicago.

All right.

And the cool throne is Baker Mayfield.

Oh, you took my cool throne.

Starter.

I got another one.

Baker Haram is the fan base for Baker. Listen, did anybody think that Kyle Trask was gonna win it?

Stephen Chey He did well. When Tom Brady retired for like two months, he was like, Kyle Trask really is something else, he's next up.

I put a little future on Baker to win comeback Player of the year.

Baker also has hungry dogs. Run faster. Because I saw an article that he has to sue some of his family members who mismanaged some of his funds.

Suing? I think it's an investment firm or a financial services firm, and his dad and brother both work for that firm, right? So I don't know. It's going to be an ugly lawsuit, probably.

Like, if he.

I don't know, maybe it's just like when he played for the Browns. They haven't had a good quarterback in a while. He was pretty good for them. I feel like he got used by the Browns, yeah.

I got a cool throne for you if you need it.

Yeah, I'll take it in just a second. Okay, actually, do you have a hot seat for me? I have a cool throne.

Uh, we can spin it. Stephen A. Smith.

Hot seat is bonks because the bonk dog died so rip, I think he might have also been the dogecoin dog. Fuck cheems chooms.

We lost Lolita two days ago.

I know it's sad. Chooms is not going to win a Super Bowl motherfucker ever.

Yeah.

So Jim Harbaugh Michigan self-imposed a three-game suspension on him. Genius move so he misses all the out-of-conference games, gets back for a get-right game against Rutgers. And so they're going to try to hope that this is going to resolve things. I don't know how the math works on this because it seemed like the NCAA and Michigan came to a handshake agreement on four games.

Oh, it's for this year.

It's for this season.

And they walked away.

And then they walked away from the table and then Michigan was like, Okay, tell you what you pressed our hand. We'll go as far as three games.

Well, I mean, it would, I would guess, and I'm going to look it up, let's see. So three games they're playing like no one.

It's all the out-of-conference stuff.

Okay, this is interesting. Michigan schedule in 2024 Week one Fresno State Bulldogs, Week two Texas Longhorns.

Interesting.

So that might've been why.

Interesting.

So they're going to say, Hey, you said four, all right, we did three. We'll attack on another smart by him, cause he doesn't want to next year.

Yeah, so it was like, it's when you're looking at. The draft trade chart for draft picks next year equals three draft picks this year.

It was genius by him.

It was smart move by Michigan. Yes, so my cool throne is Miley Cyrus. Oh, Miley's on the cool throne.

The day the bonk dog died.

Now I'm free to be horny, I can let it, I can let all the horniness out because I've, I've no repercussions. He can't balk me anymore, bitches. She's going to play at the Superbowl, probably in Allegiant Stadium, which is the sexiest stadium in the world. It's going to be the most boner inducing halftime show of all time.

Or Noel? We refer to that as a Billy football. Max delente.

Oh yeah, yeah, exposing.

That's the more famous, the more famous recent incident.

Most famous recent nipple. So, yeah, Miley's going to rock it. I mean, she's a great performer. When she performed before the final four a couple of years ago, that's where the whole bonk thing started. I really got into Miley Cyrus and she's back and Miley's bad bitch, and I can't wait for her to just stunt on every hill.

I am very excited for this as well.

She's great, she's a she's a great performer.

Great performer. Also Did you guys see the Las Vegas Eye thing? They didn't plan for rain? No big eyeball.

Oh, you're talking about, you're talking about the globe, globe, yeah.

Yeah, it like malfunctioned.

Oh, and the hurricane? Yeah, whoops, maybe maybe it suicided itself because Hillary was in town.

It's probably true, she knows too much. The seeing. I know so much. All right, my hot seat is Ted Cruz, because Ted Cruz fell for the oldest trick in the book.

Yeah, that's my favorite. Responses. Well, the fact that I believe that it could have been true tells you everything you need to know, right? It's all things considered better behavior from Ted Cruz on Twitter than liking incest porn on Nine 11..

That's true, but yeah, it was good to get it was. It was funny, cause I didn't think that there'd be a TMZ article talking about it. It's calling me bar, barstool, sports jokester and cats or a jokester.

I'm a jokester.

I do like to joke around, that was funny and then my cool. Throne is a Chiefs of Holick, because he has the greatest lawyer of all time, so Chiefs of Holick, you obviously know his whole story, the the bank robbing, uh Chiefs fan.

All right, so I, I saw. I saw the video of the lawyer saying this, and my first reaction was. This sounds like something that an attorney who wears a cowboy hat would say, Yes. I saw the video of them. This guy's a nerd, this guy is, this guy's not a nerd, not a cool attorney, not a football guy.

You know, uh, Oklahoma, maybe.

Yeah, everybody on that jury is a football fan, probably packs half cowboys, half Chiefs fan. They probably pretend that they're Chiefs fans, cause they're better this year. Uh, but yeah, it sounds. This sounds to me like this has Chiefs of Holick's fingerprints all over it, which are on file with the FBI.

I listen, if this lawyer just goes in and just does football analogies the entire time, they're going to win this case.

Oh, for sure.

Like, that is what people understand.

Yeah.

And you just have it.

Maybe not, or he went into the bank and he took what the defense gave him.

Yes, he read, he read the defense, he saw that they were, uh, you know, cover zero, and he, he went and took it. Why wouldn't you?

Yeah.

Right, he, if he rolls out just turf on the like and does this whole entire proceedings on turf. These are, these are things that put on a helmet like we would. Absolutely. If I were a juror, I'd be like, you can't, you can't put this guy in jail before football season.

Listen, just because the man liked to operate out of the pistol, it doesn't mean that he should be in prison, okay?

Free Chiefs a holick, but maybe not, cause he probably did it.

Uh, should be handcuffing running backs and fancy football, not diehard super fans.

Oh, Chiefs a holick, Uh, what a story, all right, let's get to our interviews. Uh, first up, we have our good friend Tony Scheffler. It's been a while since he'd been on, but any old school awl knows he is one of our favorite guests and it's brought to you by our friends at BIC.

Yep, uh, won't see me on Mount Rushmore, but that's okay.

Oh, no, not worthy. That was a miss, were you? honorable mention.

No, I mean, it's, it's, it's what it is at this point. Um, now I'm here. Leg room is limited under this thing. Uh, but we just keep carrying on. It's time to start making some new stories.

And we, what basketball game are you talking about?

Just check my Wikipedia.

I want to know about Scout, the cat, but not how he's doing, but more specifically. Last time we hung out with you, we played around a golf, I beat you on a hole, and you had to buy $200 worth of mice for Scout the cat. Did you ever do that? Did you ever pay up?

Uh, he kills enough mice, okay?

So he's still alive.

Scout is, Uh, he's going to turn nine August 9th.

Okay, okay.

Um, he's alive and well, uh, he doesn't like a thunderstorm. Okay, what a pussy he'll be at the front door, uh, when a storm's coming.

Does he still have his nuts?

Uh, no nuts.

Oh no, we saw an orange cat the other day with giant nuts, it was crazy.

Actually, I'm a cat guy now, really. That's the news, that's breaking news.

Oh, that is breaking news. Sweet, you don't have any dogs?

We got this new cat, uh, they call it a maine coon.

Okay.

Looking to breed some cats? Are you serious? 10 years out, 10 years out of the league, it's time to move on.

It's a pretty cat.

It's time to move on and make some money. And, uh, here we are. How do you breed a cat? Miso Moe, they're calling them the kids.

Miso Moe.

Miso Moe.

That's the name of the cat.

And he's scary, he's scary looking.

How do you breed a cat? You just put a cat in a room with another cat?

That's how you do it. We're going to find out.

Wait, so you have two?

Uh, we're still looking for, uh, do you call it a bitch? a female?

Yeah, a female bitch, maine Coon cats.

Maine Coon.

They're huge, right?

How big is it? And he's, he's moving through the house like he's ready to to kill anything. Okay, so I'm a little bit worried.

Okay.

The pointy ears thing, dude, yeah, like Bobcat.

And they look, yeah, they, they. They're like, like, very thick.

Correct Very. We're looking to, we're looking to breed, okay?

I like this. Marlin's Man has an extensive selection.

Marlin's Man.

He has a ton of Maine Coon cats.

He can sell me a female.

I think he's got nine.

It's actually gross when he has them all, like around him and stuff.

Okay, I like where where I'm headed in the same direction as Marlin's man.

What's the market for a Maine Coon?

Uh, 3,500, four grand a piece.

Is that are you being serious?

Are you that hard up for money?

It's it's been a struggle, post uh, post NFL.

Well, you have your you, you have your pension. The NFL always takes care of the retirees.

You don't get that until you're 55.

Is that true?

Correct Oh, we're. We're looking to make some moves. Okay, I like that, and that's kind of where we're at right now.

I'm I'm taking away the game that I tried to give your team a pump up. And came to the TO to the Chelsea High School. And they lost and our season season ended. Yeah, so that one's on me, I'm going to take that one off your record.

Um, so yeah, so 58 and eight, okay, but again, nobody's counting. And, uh, three years in, we'd like to get to a hundred here in the next couple and we'll.

Have you been ejected from a game?

Uh, I have not. I was ejected from a, uh, a middle school softball game a couple of weeks ago.

Things were sad.

Yeah, things were said a week prior by an UMP, and it kind of carried over the next week.

The UMP started it.

Correct Um, and you know.

You can't get, you shouldn't be able to get ejected for a carryover call.

Uh, we were losing two, nothing. All I know is I heard a lot of cheers. Once I was over by the swings, I found a line of vision to the field. Uh, and the kids won as a coach.

That's kind of your safe space. When things go wrong, you go sit on the swing.

Um, a couple of technicals in in basketball, but no, I have not been ejected, thankfully. Um, and uh, yeah, we're just we're just trying to figure it out, you know, chasing wins, looking for dubs, you know. We're pretty wide open, we got, we got really good athletes, so we're, uh, we're five out, four out. Dribble drive, old Memphis D. Rose offense. Oh, I like, uh, put pressure on a rim. uh circle behind rim, cut.

You make sure that, you make sure they go to class.

Uh, really lucky in that regard, the kids are all about 4.0. uh, pretty lucky with with who I got.

Okay, so, uh, that's good.

The standard point guard is just committed to Marquette. Oh, yep, so should we go in there after next year?

I guess jerseys behind you, like, like coach Cal in his basement of guys that go to the NBA.

We're looking to beef it up, we're looking to beef it up. Uh, see if we can get our, you know, BC is fighting for us on Twitter.

I did, I got in a fight with the Uh, uh Girls High School, Michigan Girls High School beat Reporter, cause they were saying that Uh, Tony's team ran up the score.

Did you run up the score?

We did not.

Uh, you know, we're here to win and it was against a rival, correct? So that, and that should not count.

It's like that, that picture of Kobe Bryant and his team that he coached. Where they got beat one year by like, a few points and then the next year they came back and won a hundred or something. Yes, yeah.

I mean, we play all the kids.

Um, you got that Mamba mentality.

And yeah, and we just we, we play hard. I say, empty the tank, that's what I tell them, empty the tank.

Against a rival, you should not complain about running up the score.

And, uh, we play the right way. Uh, don't get it twisted, but yeah, it's. There's a time and a place for, uh, you know, being a dog.

Yeah, you guys press.

Uh, not too often you should look. I find that the press takes away from our offense, our our energy and our our uh, focus, precision, focus on offense. Yeah, so we don't, we don't do it a ton.

So how many years out are you? 10??

This is going to be 10.

Uh, do you miss it?

Uh, I miss the people, I miss stuff like this, uh, doing this kind of thing, daily radio shows. I miss the guys in the locker room.

That's Felicia, you had a lot of that.

That's behind me, yeah, a lot of what.

Fame.

Well, when we got to Detroit, it was.

You are, I mean, you were a hometown hero when you're on the line.

Yeah, uh, Denver, Denver was nasty, uh. Had a lot of fun, a lot of success. And then we got here. And you know, it was a struggle, being at home and and a totally different feel.

So wait, is that a? Is that a thing that you could definitely notice? Like we always hear about it, you know? Like hometown guys playing for their teams, is it way more pressure?

Yeah, uh, a lot more family, a lot more logistical things you don't have to worry about, uh, getting pulled in every which way. People asking you when you go to the West Coast and Denver from here, you know, I didn't really have any distractions. Yeah, it was just kind of rage.

Did you play with, uh, with Jake Plummer?

Oh yeah, yep, he was our starting quarterback, my my rookie year.

Jake is awesome.

Take the snake. I actually just saw him, uh, I don't know, several months ago at a card show. Yeah, what a dog.

Tony's the way we go to Jake on the show.

You should go to his bar.

Slip BC Uh, Jake's, Jake's phone number. Yeah, he's the best, him and Rod Smith to the all time, all time dudes, yeah.

Have you been to his mushroom farm?

I have not.

It's great, yeah, it's fantastic.

I believe it. Yeah, it was interesting, uh, playing, playing with Jake and and Cutler was obviously the first round pick with me that year. Just two totally different humans.

Yeah.

Pretty interesting.

You played for McDaniel's too, right? Oh yeah, yeah, so you played with T-bone. how'd you like that?

Uh, there's a lot of history there.

Do you think he's going to be successful?

You can ask Brandon Marshall that question.

Yeah, I think he probably has the same view on Josh as a lot of people do.

Yeah, um, yeah, not a fan. Yeah, that's all.

What about T-Bone, though?

No, I just missed him.

Josh traded Tony.

Myself and B. Marsh demanded to get out of there. Yeah, he traded Jay right when he got the job. Basically, yeah, pretty much cleaned house on a really high caliber offense.

He implemented the patriot way, though.

It was crazy. Yep, yep, brought guys in.

Wait, so were you on the Broncos team that started six and oh, that year with his first year?

Yep.

Yeah.

What a dog.

I love Kyle Orton.

What a dog.

You put me onto Kyle Orton's Instagram, which I don't want to blow up because I think it is private. But he's let me in. And it's just. It's just exactly what you expect.

A lot of big fish being caught.

Just fishing pictures, it's all fishing, it's all he does.

I love it, his daughter's a great equestrian athlete. Love Kyle Orton, man.

It's the best.

What year is that?

We would go out and party, you know, downtown. And he was one of the only guys that lived in Cherry Creek, which is between the facility and downtown Denver. Most of us all live by the facility, right? Well, he was a little, he was a red wine guy, a little high, you know, so he stayed close to downtown. Well, every time we came home, you know, when the bars let out, we would find our way at Orton's house and just give his windows hell, or his front door.

Which is rare for a kicker because you're not a fan of kickers.

Not a fan Dorks?

Huge dorks, Tony always texts Whenever a kicker misses a kick, he's like, fucking kicker.

He's like, he's like a ninja, like, it can't be that hard to make a field goal.

Not a dork.

So what year was that 2010 when the Broncos started 6-0??

Uh, must have been 6, 7, 8, 9.

Okay, 2009.

We had a game again at Cincinnati where we hit on four. Goes it, got ball, gets tipped, Brandon Stokely catches it and kind of just lollygags in the end zone to go up. They put out the safe team at the end.

Did you return it?

You go, go look at the ball card, it's on there.

Did you try to run it back?

I did, and, uh, Brian Dawkins sideswiped me. Brian Dawkins was was having none of it.

What a mean guy.

Ball hawk, though, have you played in only one down on defense?

Uh, no, I was in all throughout my years as a free safety on the prevent, yeah, uh, and a game and a half situations.

That's pretty sick, though. Like you ended your career with how many touchdowns and interceptions?

Yup, one pick I got.

Love it. How many touchdowns?

I don't know was it like 20, I don't know 23..

The best was the Tampa one with the sword, one of the greatest, uh, touchdown celebrations back when it was like celebrations weren't happening that often, he did the sword.

Yeah, so myself and Nate Burleson, man, we used to clown and practice. it just got us through practice. Yeah, we'd celebrate everything.

So maybe you become a college coach?

Yeah, something, something, but uh.

Western Michigan College coach.

Well, where I'm at, but yeah, that's, uh, that team had a persona where it was We're going to dance today type of mentality. And, uh. And we had Sue on the other side, getting 15 yard penalties and and um, abandon Bosch with his red red contacts. Yeah, uh, it was kind of a wild team, man. Like, look out.

Cause you played on on one of the only Lions teams in recent memory to have real success. What? What's Detroit like when the team?

Oh, it was awesome, man, alive man. We would go, we would go around and shake hands after games to the fans. It was one experience, you know, coming from a kid, you know, I was. I grew up here, uh, you know, at the Silver Dome. Barry Sanders, right?

So, um, I think we've, we've gotten the take on this. From Jim Harbaugh's perspective, I don't know, we never had Jim Schwartz on, right?