Masters Preview With Max Homa And Shane Bacon, UConn Wins The Natty + Great Listener FAQ’s

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Welcome to part of my take. Today is Wednesday, April 5th, and the Connecticut Huskies are.

Welcome to the Blue Blood Club. That means that your ancestors were doing some incest, yes, dabbling in some sisterhood, and your uncle might be a pedophile.

Well, that's okay in this circumstance, because you're basketball royalty, you've made it, you've joined all the other blue teams that are blue bloods. Yes, so I think they.

UConn is also the only second team all time to win titles in four consecutive decades. So they won in 99, they won 2004, they won 2011, 2014, and now they've won 2023, so that's four consecutive decades.

The only other team to do that, North Carolina, so they are basketball royalty. I don't know, I know we have the debate about blue bloods. All this stuff, five in 24 years is insane.

And they've done it with three.

And then Dan Hurley would be Mike Michael Corleone, which is perfect.

Goodbye, thank you for being my friend. He, he, he claims that it was not a play on the Hello, friends. He just thinks everybody's his friend. That's just how he addresses people.

Like, we could talk about the tournament a minute, but Yukon, what? They did, they beat every single team by double digits. They, uh, were trailing in just 13 of their games total, so six games. They were trailing for 31 minutes of game time 13, and they were only trailing for 55 seconds of a second half. Crazy.

It's insane, they absolutely wasted everyone. Their, uh, total average that they beat teams by was 20 points per game uh, and it was the fourth largest average win margin since the field expanded to 64 teams in 1985. And Dan Hurley? What he said couldn't have been more true. When he's like, once we got out of the Big East Play, you know, we're a different team.

They ended up on the season 17 and, Oh, against non-conference opponents, and they beat all of.

He feels like he's the next era, which I love because I Dan Hurley is like a throwback to the next year. He's got that scowl, he's got that anger. He was zen like tonight, cause his team is that good.

He drinks piss, he drinks piss, he drinks urine, he is the you know what pft the NCAA basketball.

It's in good hands with Dan Hurley.

Dan Hurley definitely remembered the name of the podcast. Part of my take did not require any nudging whatsoever from Jake. He did it, but yeah, great, great story for him, I'm I'm happy for him because he is. You could definitely make the case like, okay, going into this tournament, saying like, nobody believed in Yukon.

I think a lot of people believed in Yukon, but a lot of people never believed that Danny Hurley would ever reach this level.

They were like, when the tourney started, there were people who picked them, but they definitely weren't the team that everyone was looking at. Being like, this team is as dominant as they come, but when you look at their season. They were that team in November and December, they had a little blip in January, and then February, March, April, they were that team again. They were a very worthy national champion, that that dominated, dominated, dominated tournament play.

And here's the real stat. Yukon is the first team in the history of the NCAA tournament to win six games by at least 13 points. Wow, just dominating.

They didn't play anybody the whole tournament.

They.

He wins most outstanding player, I don't know why they don't call it just most valuable player. But, uh, his tournament run was insane. He just dominated even tonight, like there was a couple of times where he was on the bench. San Diego State sort of didn't go away, even though, in retrospect, like, you know, they cut it to five with, Uh, I don't know.

I was like, maybe six minutes left. But every time they needed a big bucket, it was either Jordan Hawkins or Sunogo coming through with that big moment, big rebound. Uh, he was just an absolute force, and Yukon's defense, which I talked about, um, on Sunday show, Monday show, uh, was just insane. Like every time their opponents got in the paint, they just had an answer for him and nothing was easy and you could see it.

I know San Diego State wasn't the best offensive team, but it was. They were just getting absolutely stonewalled at every spot and they were guarding a three point line across half court. Like, just their defense got slept on because it was that dominant. In this run, there was one play in particular.

I think.

Do you know what it reminded me of?

He has more equipment in his home than most colleges, and he is so strong. That's what I like, that's what I think of. I just think, like, when Sunogo did that, I just was in my head.

I was just thinking, a Brian Wind horse being like, and he is so strong throughout this tournament.

You know, what do you, what do you pound at halftime? If you're Sunogo and you can't eat in the first half? I think I think it's simple. Lemon, lime, gatorade and a strawberry on crustable.

He's just, he's just a big meaty dude. He's strong, he, and he is so strong. He's so strong, and he is so strong. The only the only strategy that San Diego State had was step on their shoes, give them flat tires and make it annoying to try to play defense with.

Tristan Newton was great. They were just there. I mean, Joey Calcutta Terror, like that guy's got just springs on his legs, like he was just bouncing around a caravan. And shout out Andrew Hurley, who played in all six tournament games.

That's how good Yukon was that Andrew Hurley got in all six.

Don't take the three, I know you.

It's stupid, but why not just?

The conversation maybe we should have about Yukon, this is always a fun one. Instead of, are they the best, uh, men's college basketball team of all time? are they the greatest champion of all time? Because they're playing this tournament? I mean, it was just dominant.

It was dominant. I'd say that they are the greatest champion of all time. Uh, by the way.

BOBBY Hurley So we had you on today, your brother on last week, Yukon undefeated since both of you have come on. I mean, how how do you feel? You had your mom, like you mentioned on the show, your dad at his moment, and you wanted your brother to have his moment?

Now he has it. How do you feel now?

I had a chance to work.

His brother was on the show, then, he was on the show then, his brother never lost a game, that's.

He had Dan Hurley. But here's my promise to the people. Uh, next year. PFT and I are going to try to get credential for this, cause it feels like everyone gets credential. So we're going to do our own interviews on the court. Tuxedos, yeah.

And let's just hope, St.

You know?

Uh, and then he said that he was in Houston and gave us a meetup time. Uh, didn't show. He said he was with Rick Pitino. Obviously we're getting fucked with, but it's good. It's good to wake up and be like, Yeah, my stock are still coming after me.

We want.

So Jake is on the floor getting all these interviews. great job by Jake, we should say that, like.

And then everybody walks calmly to the end of the court and then they make both both free throws. And you can't come back from that if you're San Diego State. I was talking to Titus about it as it was happening. Like, well, the rest of this game, the last 10 minutes are just going to be nothing but free throws.

And, uh, he made the point that that was probably San Diego State. Strategy was to foul, like, be very physical with Yukon. And just hope that. The refs don't call it every time. Yeah, the refs called it every time, and it was. I don't think it was a poorly officiated game.

It was overly officiated. Maybe you could say the second half felt like that, but but the fouls, I think, were legit fouls for the most part.

Max, you want to say anything? Max is just shaking his head. Nah, I don't have anything to say other than fuck off. Okay, Max has had a long day when the hair's down.

Max has been drunk and sober like four times today. No, I was just drunk and then sober just one time. I'm so sunburned right now. Oh, I thought, Oh, oh. That's interesting, because when I saw Max in the pool and he looked, he was drinking like a red and white. Uh, what was it?

It was Miami, but it was my advice. I was like, Max, you look like your drink right now, you're so sunburned. He goes, I'm fucking Italian.

I mean.

It's true, a little early out on the golf course today.

And he was like, Yeah, you're not that ready either. No, you guys are both just normal, normal guys, yeah, and we.

Otherwise, you're just listening to the raw dog right after the game reactions. So the the tournament, I think we had it all. I know that there wasn't the the uh, one seeds in the final four, all that. But we had an all time upset. With Fairly Dickinson. Princeton just gets, like, completely erased from history because of Fairly Dickinson.

They went to the Sweet 16 as a 15 seed. You had an all time tournament personal run by Marquise Noel, which was like, If you didn't watch the tournament, Marquise Noel dominated the second weekend. His performances at Madison Square Garden were out of this world, like appointment television, you had five, eight confirmed by the way, five, eight got to interview.

I like this tournament delivered, it always delivers. It's the fucking March.

People say that they like upsets, they like underdogs. well, guess what, go out back and smoke an entire pack of underdogs. Because this delivered in spades, it didn't have the brand names, which some people don't like.

You always hear people say like, Oh, I like the underdogs, I like it when they win early opening rounds. But then after that you want the big name schools. That's fun sometimes, but this was. It was very cool to see all these schools that never thought that they'd have a chance to win. A single game advanced throughout the tournament and a lot of them make it very, very far. It's like unprecedented level.

So I liked it, I enjoyed.

Yukon was the best team this year, they deserve the title. I, I'm giving this tournament, maybe it wasn't a plus, but I actually don't think any tournament could be less than an ace. So I'm giving it an A, I'm giving it five balls.

Okay, there we go. So, like, again, it's just some people and it's fine. Some people like to talk about NBA all year, or they want to talk about I don't know what, what other sports are. Or ML MLB just started. Yeah, sure, March is for the Assembly tournament, and it always delivers.

Cause I consider, I consider this an all.

We're on a live.

Not this time, you know why? Cause then have that loser Max attached to me, and that's how you take one across the finish line.

So I do have a.

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You did? Yeah, he, yes, he bet. San Diego State Money Line and San Diego State against the spread. No man.

Yeah, Dan Hurley, best coach in the Big East. Uh, Max, you just, I mean, I'm not going to argue, Kyle neptune, is you just? You just got no hit? Yeah, I had no.

Dude, that's any point where you like Yukon might actually be good. No, I knew the entire time that Yukon was good, but it against it was against my. But see, what shouldn't you have been like, Hey, they're really good, might as well win money. The whole, the whole moral hedge thing is a bunch of bullshit.

Like, no, but when they're that good, I know, honestly, I told you this, I told you this earlier that I. If I didn't pick UCLA, I would have picked Yukon because everyone was sending me those stats of like, only these five teams can make it and they you can have the best odds, but I couldn't get myself to pull for Yukon, that was the number one.

Good job, Max. Also another good sports cool throne, uh, stores Connecticut, yeah, uh, student athletes, uh, win a national championship game.

And then the entire town just starts picking up light poles and smashing in door and flipping cars. yeah, flipping cars. What a great way to celebrate a victory. Uh, gotta be the coolest thing to win a title when.

I still was on campus for the game, I didn't have any friends on campus.

Yeah, I've been huddling, I've had diamond hands, I was waiting to go to the moon patiently, and, uh, I've had it for like three years.

It increased in value, it dipped way back down, and then I was just huddling it. And I liquidated my Doge account last night, all your assets, all my assets in Doge. I liquidated so that I could put money into my account to bet on the tournament.

And then, seven hours later, Elon changes the fucking home screen of Twitter to Doge the Doge dog. And then the stock shoots up a hundred percent.

Although.

Yeah, unless, well, we might, maybe. well, we we. Now that Jake's not in the room, we might. If you can hide my likes on certain tweets, I'll pay for that. You need a horny tab? Yeah, yeah, exactly.

I'll do it then, um, but yeah, Hank needs remember Hank, nah.

Uh, okay, my hot seat. I have two, number one, uh, Joe Biden, so Joe Biden say, Jill or Jill, Jill Biden, Dr.

Jill, Dr. Jill. Biden invited LSU and Iowa to the White House. That's fucking bullshit, you can't do that, that's fucked up.

You cannot do that. That's how I will lost they lost is it. Has this ever happened? Classless move.

It's playing both sides, it's classless, it is classless, it's classless move. You can't do that.

If I were, if I were LSU, I'd be like, Fuck you, I'm not coming now. No, then, cause then actually, I would probably show up.

But either way, learn how fucking sports work. I feel like this entire LSU Iowa game just had to it. Like, shook everyone, where everyone forgot how sports work for a minute. Where they're talking about classy, classless. You can't shit talk. yes, you can you shit talk, you run up the score, you point to your finger.

When you win a ring, you do the John Cena. And then you get invited to the White House, and the team that lost doesn't get invited to the White.

You're not treating them as equals as men you're, cause I don't see them, I don't.

Uh, my other.

Emmanuel They already own UFC. Vince McMahon sold 51. He's still going to be part of the WWE, still gonna like, make moves, he's still going to be the boss. But he made, I think it was like somewhere like four or $5 billion.

Personally, the company was rumored to sell for $9 billion. Right? So he made so much money today. He bought the WWE from his father for a million dollars in, like, 1982, so pretty good return on investment. But he went and did the rounds on all the shows.

And he has this pencil thin mustache above his lip that makes him look like like Vince. McMahon already is the evil boss. He just took it.

So he's, he's fucking rich now, huh? uh, very, very rich. What is Vince McMahon? I don't think money really matters to Vince.

He's just going to use that money to just make more wrestling. Yeah, it's all, it's all going back. He's probably they're keeping him around, right?

Yeah, no.

You know that old saying?

He's battled through it all the time. Yeah, I don't know where, wherever Joey Abs or, uh, yeah, Joey Abs and Pete Gas are right now.

I wish they had come out and saved them. But yeah, he was in wrestlemania, he, he, he was doing his thing. And, uh, Tours. ACL tried to stand up, flop back down, Snoop Dog had to save him, but yeah, that was.

I wouldn't want to win.

Yeah, true.

So congrats to the Tigers. Have your bias. This is bullshit. What? Phillies do not have a win yet. What?

You got no, you got no wind. No, dude, I don't know how this ended up being a podcast. I mean, dude, are you serious?

I didn't know that I w You want to cut this part?

Yeah, wait, the Phillies don't have any wins, it's four games into the season, who cares?

Yeah, yeah.

So I could do exactly this on the.

And for whatever reason, they made the most detailed graphic of all time. Just being like, Hey, by the way, do you know that Philly has just come in second? And every single thing this year? And I was like, watch Sunday Night Baseball, and then and I was like, watch Sunday Night Baseball tonight. What the fuck does the union losing the M.L.S have to do with Sunday Night baseball? Philly's Rangers? A lot is nothing.

It was just I, it was just so people could just fucking tweet at me the graphic and be like, Hey, hey Max, did you see this? you see this? Philly loses every championship, I know, I know they lose.

Okay, Sixers will definitely win Max. You should actually be thinking, Uh, that Hank exists because Hank's not here, so you're getting all of our jokes. I love that.

I love that for Hank. Phillies really don't have in No, the Phillies do not have a win. I don't. Wasn't opening day like it feels like 10 years ago, cause we've been on the road for a while.

I feel like we were in Austin 50.

Yeah, I mean, it's all of March, is just. I just miss my kids, I just want to go home, I miss my bed.

Oh yeah, yeah, that too. Yeah, just my dog. Coming home to your bed is so nice.

Yeah, we're going to get home, we're going to do it, bring the boys home, bring the boys home.

Let's do it. Sorry that the Phillies don't have one. I didn't know that before I said that.

Yeah, what a great turnaround, but the sports gods really do it correctly, with the tournament like the most intense month in the sports calendar. And then they're just like, here's a really nice, easy thing to watch for. The entire weekend you can sit on your couch. I'm a little worried about the weather, by the way. Nothing, nothing bums me out more than Masters being bad.

Go fuck yourself also, yeah, go push yourself, because we it's labor month we get a month to.

We work every single day, 365 days a year, uh, morning, noon and night, and then when we go to work, we take no vacations, and when we go to work, we just don't work. Yeah, it's a perfect system.

Unless you're Hank Lockwood, Yeah, but that is very European. Listen, this is America. Baby vacations are frowned upon.

You do, you know when you? When I take my vacation every fucking day, when I go to work and I fuck off, that's what you do. Hey, you I. Someone listening to this right now is nodding their head. They're like, I'm at work right now, maybe they're watching on the YouTube.

They're.

Like a squirrel hiding nuts before the winter, if.

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It is Master's Week and we thought we'd have on one of our favorite guests, Max Homa, before Augusta. Um, this is not an interview. this is a uh, just guys pumping each other up session. We're just getting ready for Augusta. It's the biggest tournament of our lives.

And I say that, meaning all three of us here. Hank's not in the room, he doesn't like you, and neither is Max. He's. He's probably getting a, uh, I think he's at a doctor's appointment that probably won't go well for him. Um, so how are we feeling mentally, Max?

I only saw the clip, or I only saw the meme where it just said, Max is going to suck. And I was like, Damn, that was mean. And then I listened to the first, like 20, 30 minutes, I'm like, Ah, this guy's, this guy's in it right now. He was rock.

I'm still pretty sure that's.

Okay, all right. So Rocco is like the most famous second place. Yeah, go Rocco.

Yeah, Rocco, you can see him saying that. Um, yeah, that's definitely Max, all right.

So, uh, what, like, where? where's the mental lab? Cause, you know, we've, we've obviously had before the masters before. Uh. The famous time when I was like, Can you win this? and you were like, I think I think you can win this now.

Like, I am confident, I feel good, do you feel the same?

Um, so I, I, I just say that going into it, that just seems like the only thing. I mean, I like what I've been doing, I like where my game feels, like where my head's at. But handling the pressure and doing all that will be different, having expectation will be a bit different. But I mean, I really do like my chances, I, I like the golf course.

Uh, I haven't had much success on it yet. But I just feel like I go in there and put a bunch of, uh, excessive pressure on myself just to to play well. Uh, I, I would be lying if I didn't say that. Last year, I was really prominently thinking about making the cut for the first time there. Uh, so this year the goals are set a lot higher. But um, everything's kind of lining up well and so I do feel good.

Um, I feel the best I probably could feel going into a, going into a major, so I got, I got that going for me. I know I have bad girls, a cold streak running, but at some point that has to turn around, even for even for that psycho.

He's the one person that you want cheering against you the hardest because he can't win anything. So you've made a very good enemy to have. Uh, you're dialed right now? Is it fair to say you're dialed? I've heard people say that I've been playing a lot of PGA Tour, two K video games, and they say, Oh, yeah, yeah, we actually need to talk about about Hank.

So the hank clip of him trying to get out of the bunker, he's at Augusta, he's trying to get out of the bunker, he's chipping downhill, he's shooting. Like, Uh, I don't even know what you call like a 12 bogey on a hole, you told me that we call it a hank on tour.

You told me that the fellows were laughing at it, were you showing it to to other golfers? And everybody was just having a good laugh at Hank. We were on the range in Austin, it was for.

I know you, I know you're, you know part. uh character. Uh, obviously, unless your name really is pft, uh, but you. So you guys laugh a lot, we listened to you guys laugh a lot on the show. But every once in a while we'll get like a true, genuine laugh. Like when Max was going through it last week, you had the funniest laugh ever, cause neither of you guys could stop fucking giggling.

And we were all laughing at that by the end of it. So then I see Hank's bunker video, Uh, yesterday, uh, I saw that one last night, and I've just never seen. I mean, I just don't understand, I just don't get it, like, I don't get, I don't get how it's that hard.

Maybe I need to try playing it, but man, that shit is fucking hilarious. The game's not that hard.

Yeah, yeah, he, just. he, just cause I can see it in my face like I can see my head.

Uh, he just has his tongue out and he's focusing so hard, he puts his, he does his face where he has his tongue like.

Usually, you got to play video.

Uh, I think 13 always plays, they changed it a little bit this year, but that one always seems to be really important. 13 and 15 on the back nine, and then on the front, uh, four and five are the two hardest holes, um, on the front nine. So those two. I think when you see people play those two, well, uh, you'll see somebody who's probably going to have a good chance.

Usually, you see a lot of birdies on the back nine and the front nine. If you shoot anywhere between even and two, three under. Uh, that usually sets you up for a great day. Uh, but I mean, the whole golf course is pretty damn awesome. pft, you know, you play it all the time. uh, it's a pretty great golf course. So, uh, there's a lot of holes, I could say, but those, those seem to.

I'm coming for.

Uh, what's our plan? If they do pair you with Tiger? Uh, are we going to have a better plan than the British Open? When you melt it into a puddle, uh, we got to stay mentally strong.

Uh, but I think I'll be, you know, I got it out of my system, I got tears out of my system. Uh. The kleenex has been removed from the bag. Uh, I think I'm pretty, I'm pretty ready for that.

I do think like the live thing's going to be funny because, like, I feel like anybody who's playing with, you know, Phil or Cameron Smith or DJ or Brooks. It's just going to be like, none of us really have any bad blood. But they've, like, made, uh, the like, you know, fans or whatever have made it out to be like we. It's going to be so awkward. Uh, so, I think that would be quite funny, just to see the reaction. I'm sure I'll get a lot of texts like, oh, man, you know, do you think you guys are going to talk today? And, uh, like, yeah, that's really not as big of a deal.

I think that'd be fun, but yeah, I think playing with Justin Thomas, I usually play quite well with him. And so I think that would be a good sign that, uh, the the powers that be at Augusta are looking out for me, so something like that.

The rich people get to go to Augusta. But, uh, let's just say if there are any awls that are there, uh. Maybe just a positive like, Hey, Max, you're doing great, just you're doing great. Yeah, keep going, that'd be great.

I've.

But I was like, you can't say, like, stop calling me that, because we learned in second grade that you can't do that. So, so, I will say this I'm really excited for a Week of Peace because that has become. I don't know how this works. Uh, as I'm only a one-time take the award winner, uh. But I'm hoping that whoever wins it this year, we'll take that crown and everyone will forget. Uh, I think that would be quite nice, uh. But I would say that to any of the AWs that are there at Augusta National. I, I would. I would recommend not calling me a pervert there because I don't think it's going to be received super well.

I do. There was a guy who got kicked out, I heard at the Players Championship because security said, you got to stop saying that. And I guess he said it again. And it was kind of, it was kind of internet in real life, because, you know, I'm sure he was complaining.

Like, it's, it's a joke from a podcast, and the lady's like, I don't fucking care, right right. At the end of the day, I don't listen to that.

So I don't know what you're talking about. You're still calling him a pervert? Yeah, people seem to miss that, like you'll hear a couple of snickers when someone says it.

And then a lot of people be like, Hey man, like, Chill, yeah, thank you, like this is real life, yes.

Yeah, no, I'm on, I'm on your side on that one.

Exactly, yeah, yeah. Maybe after you hit a t a good tee shot, be like, that's a spicy meatball, that's fucking funny.

Yeah.

Okay, so we can work with that, we can work with that. Um, all right. So, uh, I really hope that they I forgot the whole live angle.

Like, I hope they they put, like, Uh, Phil with with Rory or Phil with Tiger would be so great. Oh my god.

Um.

Uh, and so I went like, we can look up how, like our average time or whatever, so I looked it up. And I am not slow. So that made me feel good. But it was also that was like a perfect understanding of the internet. One clip of one putt.

Uh, and uh, that's just the way the world works now. Yeah, you know what it was, I'll wear it, but I at least I found out that I am not in this one clip, that that's going.

It cuts away back to you and you're in like a different position. The second time they come back. And then there's a guy waiting on a bridge for you to finish putting, and then the camera cuts back to you and you're still reading the putt. So, like, yes, as as the stopwatch goes, it wasn't exceptionally slow, but I heard rumors out there that you were apologizing for your pace of play.

They must've been loving that. Like, back back to the guys playing, who's about to jump in the lake? All right back to Max, standing a different direction, right back to that guy.

It looks like he's crying, Okay, back, he's. he's mad at Max. see if he's got a knife.

Like that guy was he, he went from like a sports, uh, you know, producer to like a daytime Emmy producer. So quickly, and I was pretty impressed with how how that all laid out. I was, I was, uh, I was a fan of that video.

We're fully gassing you up. We were a hundred percent homosexuals going into the masters.

I wonder if Augusta is removing the erasers, essentially to forbid this kind of activity. Uh, because that would be a pretty easy way to win the Masters. I feel like I was doing some, some studying and I feel like that wasn't. I mean, I've been working on shipping and hitting, but I have not really thought about pencil whipping too much. And that seemed like not a bad idea. This is the shit that.

And, uh, they type that in or whatever. So she decided she was going to fuck with everybody at regionals, which is a big event. And uh. So she told the person. I just went two, three, two, I went one, three, three. So she's like, nine under through nine and everyone's wigging out, and she realized this halfway through.

This might be a problem because, you know, the other coaches are also looking at these scores to see what place their team is and all that stuff. So she started going like, eight, five, five, uh, five, seven, four, like trying to even it back out. And I think she might've got, like, suspended because like, completely fucked with, like, the nature of the golf tournament. So I've I've always thought about, maybe if my walking score was ever just in a in a silly, goofy mood. If they were like, you know what fuck it?

Hole in one on number eight, the par five. That was the greatest shot in the history.

I i that that woman has a great sense of humor. Um, so so the person walking with you, doing the score, do you ever catch them doing like the classic? Like standing at the green, being like, all right one and then two, and then, like, you know, like every guy's had that moment, we're like, Wait, did I hit another one there like you ever see him? Like, trying to actually do?

Right, and they do a tally, and I've always wanted to see, you know, like Heaven not one time made a 16 on a whole. Um, you know, people have made like fourteens and fifteens, and like, I always want to see that tally line. This guy just scrambling, like how he's like, literally doing math to try to figure out what, what score to type in. Uh, but yeah, I've never seen the finger counting, but I will, uh, now I'll keep my eye out.

Okay, all right, so Max, I have two.

That's fine, just get the full soak in the perspective, okay, soak in it. It's funny you say that, because.

It was pretty awesome, considering that he hadn't spoken any words before and he just strung along such an eloquent sentence.

All right, then my last.

It'll be a fun season. It's actually quite fun because everybody you know for the last eight or nine years has, like, in the division. Like all my friends from southern, southern California, uh, we'll be like, Oh my god, you guys just spend so much fucking money, oh my God. And now, like, the Padres have just decided that, you know, their credit cards work and they're just shelling out cash. So now now I'm just like, have fun this year.

If you guys don't fucking win, it's a complete. And I've had to deal with that for the last decade, so enjoy that. So I look forward to hopefully the Padres flaming out and the Dodgers somehow backdooring it. But I, I'm with you, I think.

Last podcast, you guys talked about something about how, like, yeah, fandom is is. Rooting for your team and hoping they win, but it's almost more fun when the teams you hate suck. So, uh, if the Dodgers do, in fact, uh, not excel, as I'm hoping they will, I will truly enjoy myself rooting against the Padres and Giants this year. So, uh, I feel good, I mean, they still got a really good lineup. But, uh, it's obviously a bit different that, uh. Then when they just, you know, brought, uh, pulled up the bridge truck to just about anybody they wanted.

I'm sure not to put any pressure on you.

He's going to cry tears of joy. And then he's going to go to look at his account to see all the commas. And he's going to say, it's going to be red again. Uh, so happy, yeah.

I mean, I think.

We'll be watching everything and everyone. Just spicy meatball, he's a spicy.

So I'd like to, I'd like to keep this one going. Also. Jake, Hi, I love you. you're the nicest man in the world to say I'm going to see you. But, uh, yeah, I'm looking forward to. uh, I'm looking forward to this. This should be fun.

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Shane, you're doing everything, we're, we have you on to talk some masters. Uh, we're taping this before Master's week, but we're we're running this Master's week.

So it is Master's week. Um, let's start big picture. Uh, is anyone better, or is anyone going to beat Scotty Sheffler?

Cause it feels like for the first time since Tigers run in the early two thousands, it's like, you, you, you. Scotty Sheffler's playing at a different level than everyone else and it's going to be hard if he plays even 90 of his best to beat him. Yeah, you know, the interesting thing about the.

And the fact that he was able to do that. And then he continued on and played well at the U S. Open and nearly won there, and then already has a win this season. I think it's a great point in terms of who can beat this guy because he obviously hits the ball as far as anybody out there, which is very important at Augusta. But it's his hands and his chipping around the greens that I think was so impressive last year and continues to impress me. In terms of how he goes about his business, I mean, this is a guy that literally chips in what feels like every round.

And when you think back to that final round last year, you know. It seemed like he was kind of starting to do what young people do on Sunday at the Masters. And he hits that bump and run on three and it goes in for Birdie and the rest, you know, as part of Scotty Sheffler history. So I would say he's my favorite with the way he's playing and the way he played in Austin. Headed into this golf course and knowing that if you play well at Augusta, you typically play well at Augusta, year in and year out. I think he is the favorite going in and it's going to take monumental efforts to kind of knock them off that cause. He doesn't seem intimidated by the other players.

Because, yeah, my theory is it's just like seasoning salt that he puts on at the end, he's like, now it's Scotty.

Is that right?

I'll be very interested. I'm from Texas. I don't really think we have a slider feel, uh, that is any different than other places.

Typically.

If we've got peak John Rahm going up against peak Scotty Sheffler, who wins that?

And that is definitely not something I would have said six months ago. I think six months ago it would have been Rory, or it would have been John Rahm or even Cameron Smith. With the way, obviously, you played at St. Andrews, but to me, right now, with the way Scotty Sheffler is able to get the ball in the hole and then around the greens, I think his best is the best in professional golf.

You have the the the Scotty dinner, the green Jacket dinner, and then you have the pairing. So is it going to be awkward? Do you think at this dinner? Do you think that it's going to be like, Hey you guys, or does having a green jacket that exclusive club? Trump all and they, and they kind of put, put it aside and go.

I mean, these are adult men having dinner, eating sliders. I mean, how awkward can it be? As you guys have said, it feels very much like a Ruby Tuesdays or an Applebee's menu. for these guys. you can't be unhappy at an Applebee's. I. I will say I did watch a Superbowl at a Chili's once alone, and I was relatively unhappy that night.

I was on the road. And you don't want to go to like a that type of restaurant and watch the actual Superbowl. There's not a lot of cheering and happiness happening around that bar.

So, um, do you expect anything in that respect? Like, Uh, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm guessing. We're just going to make every little interaction, we're going to overblow it and be like, Oh, look at this cold stare from Rory. But um, is there anything to expect there?

But when you get out on the golf course, I'd say people are going to be relatively calm and, you know, respectful and gentlemen-like. But I will say, this big cat of all the microphones in golf, it's the loudest. One is at Augusta. And if you are going to say something, if Phil Mickelson does want to take a shot or does want to say something about another person. If you say it there, you understand that everybody's going to be listening. So if there is a place that you could make a comment that's going to float around outside of golf circles, it could happen here. But I don't expect too much of that in terms of the players.

I think they understand that at this, at this golf tournament, at this place, at this golf course, understanding what the masters is all about. They'll probably be gentlemen-y, I'd say.

And if he says things to ruffle feathers, he's doing it on purpose. So I would say, if there's anybody to kind of put odds on, it might, you know, maybe go that way. It would be Phil Mickelson. But I also understand that this is Phil's favorite week and it's his favorite golf tournament. And I think the last place he wants to upset people at is Augusta Nationals.

So I think he'll be, I think he'll be subdued to a certain extent.

And how awkward would that be if a live player won at Augusta?

But I think of all the storylines going in, that is. The one I'm most interested in is considering how little amount of golf they've played in a professional environment. I think they'll only have three live events going in to the Masters, including the weekend that we just had in Orlando. They haven't played a lot of tournament golf, and tournament golf is. It's like going to the gym, I mean, you're not going to be, you know? You're going to be way more sore if you take breaks, weeks off going to the gym. And your mind isn't going to be as sharp for tournament golf if you're not playing as much as like Rory and Scotty and Max, and that whole crew who's been playing, you know, since the wraparound season last year. So if somebody does win, a live player does win. I will take it as more impressive than maybe anything else. Because, again, I mean, they just haven't gone through the reps.

It might be too quiet out there for him.

I mean, you know, you never know. They throw money around a lot.

Cause we're big fans of the.

And considering the weather we had last year, the wind was into the player's face. We didn't see as many players going for 15, you know, in years past, like in Tigers Prime. I mean, he was in five and six irons into that part five. And we saw last year players going forward hitting three woods. They did this same thing to 13, so 13, I think, is the most famous part five in the world.

And I think a lot of golf nerds call it the best hole in the world in terms of golf. They've added distance to that and they've elevated the T as well, so you're going to see a lot more drivers off the T. At 13, I think you're going to see a lot more balls left in the trees and in the creek there. So I think they're bringing in the big numbers again at 13..

So these par fives on the second nine, where we used to see a lot of eagles and a ton of birdies. You're still going to see eagles and birdies. But you're also going to see, you know, six, sevens and eights, which, uh, you know, brings in kind of the old school way of par fives. Back in the day, you know? Curtis Strange, in at 1985, had a great chance to win the Masters. And he made six on 13 and 15, and he was hidden lumber into those par fives. And that's what we're going back to, which is pretty exciting. Okay, so another question about.

Like, you guys know, at 16, when Tiger One in 2019, that's the same whole location is when he chipped in. And oh, five. You know where it's going to be on 17, you have a good idea, it's going to be short of the Hill on 18. I mean, these are part of the tradition of the golf course, and the golf tournament is putting them in the same spots.

So fans understand where they're going to be and players do as well.

I predicted.

It was a perfect front. Nine on Thursday. Yeah, but they're still talking about to this day. Yeah, they are. It was an incredible job.

What's the power ranking of player at? Part of my take, like who's the best and who's the worst? Well, I Hank plays the most.

And then also on Saturday morning, I'm going to peace out for six hours. So I think it's going to be bad when we start doing more golf. Content for me. But Hank is the one who plays the most, so he should be the best, Jake is the best.

Naturally, like Jake playing his best, we'll beat everyone else, but Hank, he, I mean, how many routes he?

I suck at golf, I just, I still haven't played a full. What do you call a round? Yeah, I haven't played a full round of golf yet, like a full 18. So I think right now, if I were to do it, I would probably shoot 140. But we're working, you know, we're working on it.

I mean, got it, you have to start.

It's rarely brought up. Check the numbers. I was thinking about this for Hank when he gets it, if he ever gets it, never.

That's the number he should mark his golf ball, his golf ball. he should personalize his golf ball with that number for the rest of his life. Ooh, I like that. I mean, he never will.

Never going to get it. That'd be like, I don't know. Wait, does the old guys? I know the old guys at the Masters, they tee off, like, why doesn't? Why don't? Some of them say like, I want to play the whole round like the can they do that well, past champions can play.

Okay, they.

So, uh, yeah, you know, maybe play one, play one like a like for like, 20 bucks or something.

I don't know why he does it.

Is it, is it just the scene, the stage is too big, or is it the actual golf course that that guys struggle with?

I think it's a stage, you know, understanding that if you win at the Masters, you're forever in this club. I mean, if you think about Jordan Spieth winning at such a young age, I mean, he's in that rotation for the rest of his life. And I think understanding what that means, I mean, a ton of money comes your way for the next five, 10 years as as a Masters champion.

But I also think it's it's golf course, I think it's understanding that of all the golf courses these guys will play all year long. This is the one where knowledge is the most helpful. You know somebody like, like, Max, right? Max, you don't play any golf course and shoot 65. But to truly understand the intricacies of hole locations and which ones not to go at, and the way Putz will break and tee. Shots that you want to take on and holes that you want to, kind of, you know, pull back on.

I think there's so much of that in play at this golf course in particular. I remember Max telling a story at his first Masters. It was 2020, if you guys remember, that was the November Masters, and he played with Fred Couples, who has played, you know, 40 something Masters.

And he said On 13, Fred couples laid up short of the creek and hit it like five feet off the ground. And Max was walking up and asked him what the reasoning was that for? And he said, If you hit it high and it's soft, you might get a mud ball. So he just kind of puts it down the fairway and it avoids getting bought on the golf ball. I mean, that is the type of knowledge that you get when you play this place, year in and year out.

And so, you know, when you look at the average age of winners, it's typically in their thirties, not in their twenties. Like we're seeing in other golf tournaments, and especially in the modern.

Correct, like, Max can't just say I want to go play Augusta and get a few rounds in. To learn more about the course. Kenny I think you can go on a scouting.

And also, Augusta is not open all year round because they're always doing changes and they close it down in the summer. And so, you know, you just you're not allotted that much time to go out there and do that. So, yeah, when you show up Masters week. And the other thing is, the golf course doesn't play like it plays like it does in the Masters, except for Masters week. So you'll hear players say. I was at her two weeks ago, but it was almost, in theory, a waste of my.

Baby, it is ready to rock. Are you? Are you allowed to carry your cell phone on the course? Cause you're a journalist? I can't.

I think you've got to be like Van Pelt. Level is basically what I cut the line off at. I think if you're Scott Van Pelt or Jim, you might be able to carry it around. But I am not allowed to sell fun on the course.

Yeah, I mean, when they bring Darren rough.