Matthew Stafford, Steph Curry Saves America, Getting Excited About Preseason Football + Mt Rushmore of Steroid Users (Alleged)
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And I know we want to talk about football, but we also have to talk about the Olympics and our team being so awesome, that game being incredible. But for the record, I want to talk about football.
I do too. But yeah, let's talk, let's lead it off with, with the...
That was, I was thinking about, I was like, should we lead it off with the fact that we both have future Hall of Fame quarterbacks? No, let's, let's temper our excitement for a second, which we will get to. that. Uh, and I said the two of us, because there was only one guy who seemingly didn't play great.
Well, I would say there, I would say all three of us have future Hall of Fame quarterbacks, if you include Joe Milton.
That's true. But we should talk about the Olympics and that USA game, because it was fucking awesome. Steph Curry is the man. He saved America. That was one of the most fun times I've had, watching basketball.
And Steph Curry comes in and he was lights out for the last two games. He was 17 for 26 from 360 points in the last two games. And those, it was a three point game with two 58 left. And Steph was like, fuck it. I'm just going to hit every shot.
And he had four threes and it was, I, I yelped on that last one.
Yeah. People were screaming. It was, it was insane. And, uh, if you listen to the French broadcast of it, I don't know if you've had a chance to go back, and I always love to do that in college football season, where you hear, like the home announcing team, like narrate a heartbreaking loss. The French guys were just like, this is impossible.
What's happening. They kept calling him the devil Curry. Yes. The devil Curry just ended their dreams. And there were two shots that he put up.
that if it's anybody else on the planet, you're like, what the fuck are you doing? Yeah. At one point he passed out of a double team to Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant was like relatively open, as far as Katie goes. And he just said, fuck it.
I'm going to throw it back to Steph Curry, because Steph can't miss right now. Shoots it over two guys. Kevin Durant. And he said it was a bad shot too. Well, Kevin Durant and LeBron were wide open for the three.
Yeah. And under no circumstance, do you ever not give the ball to Kevin Durant or LeBron at the end of a game, unless your name is Steph Curry and it's somehow it went in, but it is just so much fucking fun to get to root for Steph Curry. I get it. I understand why Warriors fans have been complete pricks to everybody else for the last 10 years. I get it.
I understand it. Steph Curry. If he, if I got to root for Steph Curry every day, I would develop the same superiority complex that Hank Lockwood has had. Yeah. From rooting.
for Tom Brady. It was, it was so good and so incredible. Steph Curry impressed himself. He said that he said afterwards, before every shot you take, you think it's going in. All I saw was this talking about the last shot.
All I saw was the rim. I didn't see it was in front of me. I knew it was kind of late clock situation, but that one impressed myself. Yeah. That's how good he is.
Steph Curry is so good that he, he impresses Steph Curry. Yeah. They were really.
good. And you know what I loved about these Olympics? The fact that the players cared. Yeah. They cared very deeply.
Oh dude. They cared. Like if any one of them told you like, oh, you know, I just want to go over there and have fun. Didn't matter if I played, didn't matter if they got me in the game, didn't matter if I was in the rotation, they're lying. They wanted to be in there.
They want to be playing. They wanted to do this. I guess, for the country, which is awesome to see, because in Olympics past, some of the guys were just like, yeah, whatever. It's basically an exhibition. We're going to crush the world.
The days of just showing up and destroying the rest of the world are over. We have to actually put in work, put in practice and play as a team if we want to win. So to get a gold in that way.
was, it was awesome. It was awesome. They care. Even their family cares. Yeah.
To the point of.
like complaining publicly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I care a lot.
And they flew in Draymond. Yeah.
Which was the right move to do. Draymond flew in just to troll Gobert. He, he said, he tweeted, he's like, what should I say? I'm sitting right behind him. But it was, it also felt like the finale of an era in the NBA, because it was Katie.
It was LeBron. It was Steph. Those are the three guys. Devin Booker was phenomenal, by the way. Like he was the unsung hero.
He, he completely changed his role to fit into this team and was so, so good. And like the three guys who have meant so much to basketball for the last two decades, finishing it this way, because all three of them are at the tail end of their career and maybe not going to win another NBA title, but it was, it was just awesome to watch. And they, and LeBron was amazing. And KD was amazing. And Steph was just going off.
Anthony Davis finished the game because I can't remember who our other center was, but it was good that Anthony Davis is in there. I think he had four blocks.
The starting center, he had trouble defending against Wimby, who everybody else, you know, also has that problem defending against Wimby. The starting center looks slow. He looked like he was a step late to every loose ball. He looked like he was out of shape a little bit.
Who was our starting center?
I'm not sure. A bam, right? Bam. No, no, it wasn't bam.
Joel Embiid.
Oh, okay. Joel Embiid. Yeah. I got the pleasure of watching this game with Max and his brothers, and it was just them screaming at the TV the entire time. Come on, Joe.
What the fuck,
Joe? I knew it was not going well for Embiid when Max tweeted halfway through the game. He's like, everyone's shitting on Joel. We wouldn't be here without him. So yeah, he was, he wanted to go back in time to the Serbia game.
I also love the way that Joel Embiid received his gold medal when the crowd was just booing the shit out of him because he chose to go with the US instead of France. And he was just like, yeah, give it to me.
I mean, he's, he's a Philly guy.
Yeah.
You think that bothers him? France cannot boo, outboo Joel Embiid. Yeah. He had a quote going into it. He was like, yeah, France is probably going to boo me and I'm just going to tell him to suck it.
Yeah. Also, very hit him with the DS. Like he, there's, there's one guy who can't like, you can't boo, you can't boo Joel Embiid out of the building. He plays in Philadelphia. He also, uh, watching the, like, the clips of everyone post game.
And then the next day, just how hung over, uh, they all were. actually, we have someone who basically won the U S gold right here. Henry Lockwood looked like he partied with him, but Joel Embiid doesn't drink. So he was like, like just side-eyeing everyone walking to, I think they were getting to the airport. Yeah.
And it was just like, everyone had glasses on, looked like shit. And Joel was just like, I'm ready to go. Let's get on the flight.
Maybe he needs to start drinking. Maybe that's the problem.
Yeah, it was, it was awesome. So, and now there was two guys who maybe didn't play a lot. Tyrese Halliburton, who handled it in a very funny way, uh, saying when you get an a and you did none of the work, uh, that's kind of the way you have to handle it, because it's still, you're still one of the best 12 players to be on that team. And you did contribute in the fact that, you know, there were scrimmages and all the, the weeks leading up to it.
You got to take pride in that shit. Like you got to take pride in it. No matter what level basketball player you're at, if you help the team, that's first and foremost. Right. And then.
Hank, how'd we feel? I mean, Jason Tatum did get into the, uh, final felt like he got bullied, bullied minutes. Bullied. He got bullied. He got bullied minutes.
Curb got bullied into putting them in the game. Interesting. Would you not agree? I mean, his explanation for Serbia made no sense when he said it's a math problem. Well, there's eight less minutes.
Right. But you could still,
That's, are you talking metric system? The math.
That's what Steve Kerr was saying. But there's eight less minutes in an NBA game. Listen, the resume, you don't, no one really knows who does well or who does poorly in the Olympics. at the end of the day. When you look back at his career, he's going to have, you know, two gold medals at least.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He said he would play in the 22.. I mean, I do feel bad for Jason Tatum, because I'll say this in defense of Jason Tatum.
He did not say one word. No. His mom did. fans did. He didn't like that.
That's one of those situations where it gets put on him that, uh, he's upset, and he probably was upset because everyone wants to play, but he wasn't upset to, he wasn't being a malcontent. He wasn't saying anything. Other people were saying things, and then it gets attributed to him.
Right. Which is not fair. But if you watch the games, the lineup that did not have Jason Tatum in it was vastly superior. Yeah. We were dominating with that lineup.
They were really,
we barely played. Our closing lineup was very good. Yeah. Anthony Davis was phenomenal at the end. And, uh, it was just fun.
It was fun to watch the Steph Curry's, the fucking man. And Yabu dunked on LeBron. That was great. Yabu did. He might've dunked his way back in the league.
And, uh, skip obviously went straight to Twitter and was like, well, Steph Curry won the MVP, right? He said LeBron did win the MVP. Uh, and yeah, skip was like, this is an indictment on LeBron's legacy. Uh, just perfect spin zone.
That he won a fake MVP at the Olympics, where they won gold.
Yeah. And LeBron was, I mean, he got a triple double against Serbia and he was good in every game. Steph basically locked in for the last two games.
He closed it out at the end of the last two games. And we wouldn't have had that comeback against Serbia without him. And we probably wouldn't have beaten France without him just catching fire at the very end. But if you look at what the numbers were, LeBron, he did not lead the team in points per game. Steph did, but it was like barely,
it was like he led the team in rebounds and rebounds and assists.
And almost led the team in points. Like you could give it to any one of those guys, but I love the fact that, skip, he's going to find his anger. Skip fails, by the way, doesn't have a show to do his LeBron thing on. He's just doing this for the love of the game.
Yeah. And it would have been, if Steph had gotten the MVP, it would have been the same video. being like LeBron didn't get the MVP, and this was his team, his Olympics. Also shout out Serbia, probably the coolest dudes in the world. They won the bronze medal game, went straight to the bar and then came back for the medal ceremony.
And they were shithoused. Like Jokic looked like he was going to puke at one point. Cause guys were like, kind of like grabbing him. And then also.
there's a club. Jokic is already at the racetrack. Yeah, of course. So Jokic probably spent his entire Olympics watching dressage. That's why he probably didn't practice with the team that much.
That looked like, like they did it perfectly, for, I would much rather, this is why the debate, like, would you rather win bronze or silver? I'd rather win bronze, because then you don't have to like the rest of your life, saying I was so close. I would like to win bronze if I lost to the gold medal winner. Yeah. But still, like they had the best time yesterday.
France didn't. France looked, you know, in front of the home crowd, they lose. And then all the Serbians show up drunk as fuck. There's also the stat continues that, uh, there's only three teams, three countries that have won a gold medal outside of U, S and men's basketball. And two of those, two of those three countries do not exist.
So it was kind of a fun stat. What countries were they? It's Argentina. Was that the one that does exist? Yeah.
And then, uh, Soviet union. Yeah. Yugoslavia. Okay. Yeah.
If Yugoslavia had stayed a country, they'd be a problem. They'd be a real problem. Cause they would, they should have Jokic and, uh, Luca. They should be allowed to compete. It would be fun.
Yeah. But those two. So, so the only country that still exists that has won a gold other than us.
is Argentina and Soviet union would have a KP. Yeah, true. Yeah. Yeah. There was no Russian.
these Olympics, right? For the most part, I guess not yet. And we want this Asterix. We won the.
gold or we won the Olympics. We did. Yeah. Congratulations. We did it.
We did it. We tied with, uh, China for most golds, and then the tiebreaker, which I think is made up by us.
Is it silvers? is silvers and bronzes. Oh, we want together. Yeah. Okay.
Yeah. We did it guys.
Also, we were very close to not winning the total golds. And I just wanted to shout out, um, I don't know who this person is. Iman. Key lift. Uh, that person stopped, uh, China from getting,
uh, one extra goal. Because if he might give now, what, what division were they competing? This was.
women's box and women's by, okay. Yeah. Shout out to her. Yeah. So she stopped, she, she beat a Chinese woman in the welterweight championship.
She's my favorite woman in the world. That's a.
funny wrinkle. Let's go USA, USA. All of the United States was rooting for whoever that boxer that you said. Yes. So that's all getting behind.
It's really good that we, that we won the metal count. I love that. I love just being able to say like, fuck you to the rest of the world. We still got it. I don't care.
Well, what about the horses? Do we know where the horses were from? No, I don't.
know. I don't know if you have to bring in the horses from the same place. Cause I feel like.
the horses should get the medals. The riders should not get the medals at equestrian events. Yeah. We did have an awesome, I forget her name. Um, shit.
What's her name? The female wrestler that suplex the fuck out of her opponent in the finals and just dropped on her. I basically broke her neck in the files. They had to stop her us. Yeah.
It was an awesome move. I forget who it was. Hell yeah. Shout out to her because she's, she's a fucking Haas. Also, if we're going to try to.
figure out how to, to make sure that we win the golds outright in at LA. Well, first of all, I didn't even realize that you get to the host country gets to add a sport. Yep. That's how.
breakdancing came in. Shout out to Reagan. Yeah. Reagan, the goat took the world by storm.
We in the office, I was trying to live bet on it. I had no idea how the point system worked, but Reagan was, she's, she's a hero. She's, she's amazing. She was doing the kangaroo op. She was doing moves like an eighth grader would do at a talent show.
Yeah. She's the rest of the.
break. dancers have to be very upset at her, because I watched some of the others and they were incredible. Yeah. Like spinning on their heads for minutes at a time. And then Reagan was just doing Elaine, you know, Venice dance.
She's a, uh, she's a professor. And one of the things that.
teaches is breakdancing. Uh, I would drop her class if I were in it, but she basically found.
a way to get a free trip to, to France and get a team uniform. Yeah. Credit to her. And she was.
wearing like an Australian cricket uniform. She was wearing, like the green pants, a green polo shirt, the green hat. It was awesome. I was struggling to figure out what the rules were with breaking. I didn't know if there was like a TKO.
If you serve somebody so hard, they just stopped the fight. Yeah. Like that's too much. That's too much. Someone's going to get hurt.
Like battle rap. Like battle battle rap should be in the LA. being an Olympian would be sick. I think it might be more of a sport than, than some of the sports that we saw.
Yeah. Definitely more of a sport than curling. I think we're, are we adding football? Is that what it is? Like football, baseball.
Oh, it's baseball. Our sport. Baseball, should be back.
Anyways, we might not win that. We might not win that. We, we should win football, but, Oh, we definitely remember our team stinks. No, but then we, we, we're going to have NFL.
Joe Burrow. Yeah. He said he wants to do it. Yeah. The, um, I was looking at it.
If we want to figure out a way to win it outright, uh, China. Now I'm not saying that they, you know, it's a Mickey mouse gold, half of a title, whatever you want to call it. They won five ping pong events and eight diving events. It seems a little, how are there five ping pong events? I?
have no idea, but they want them all. Cause there should be at the max. There should be four, right?
I think there's women's men's doubles, women's doubles, mixed doubles, doubles. They swept it. It swept the board. I don't like, I didn't know there was eight divings. That's too many diving.
swept the board on that. There's, yeah. There's too many of the niche ones. There should be maximum four medals in, uh, in table tennis or now. maybe we've got to sweeten the pot a little bit, because we're giving each gold medalist $37,000..
That's what the U S gives. and a job at home Depot. Other countries. No, we don't even do that anymore. Sometimes they get their picture on a Wheaties box.
Congratulations. Here's 37 grand and your picture on the worst cereal in the world. Yeah. Joy, uh, Hong Kong and Singapore, they do the highest payouts. Um, Hong Kong gives $768,000 to their winner.
Singapore gives $745,000.
. Uh, and then the Philippines gives, uh, a house, a lot, a two bedroom condominium, $18,000 worth of furniture, a lifetime supply of cookies and free meals for life from local restaurant chains, including Korean fried chicken.
There's, uh, they should just do the Armageddon. If you win a gold medal for us, you never pay.
taxes. Don't pay taxes. And also you get, you get to commit one felony. Sure. Again, not paying taxes, but also you can transfer that up to manslaughter.
Yeah. I mean, Caitlyn Jenner would probably still be walking amongst us. Having everyone be like, Hey,
I don't have to pay taxes again. That would be the greatest. She is still walking.
At least she's not driving. Driving. Yeah. Driving is her issue. Uh, Indonesia in 2021 gave their gold medalist five cows each and a meatball restaurant.
Oh, Max. Wow. Yeah. Max, you need to get a passport. Yep.
We got to step our shit up. And in South Korea, you get pensions. So you get like the lump sum, and then you get money every single year for the rest of your life.
Yeah. Instead, we have no Lyle's who's winning. He's. he might be hater of the year. You might have to do that as a takey hater of the year, because he was the one who, before the Olympics, said you don't win a world championship.
If you're winning the NBA championship, that's not the world. Everyone's like, that's kind of weird. Whatever. Hank, did you write that down?
Take ease. Take ease. Got it. Write it down. What was it?
Uh, hater of the year. Who? Who? No, okay. You got it.
You did say that you did say this year you're going to be on top of it. Max said he was going to be on top of it. Did I? No, absolutely not me. No, no, no.
So are you giving away? I can be on top of it. I can take, I can take this responsibility. You already did. All right.
I could, I could, this could be on me. This could be on me. I told Max to write it down and then Max, for some reason, turned his mic on to tell Hank, but where me and him are in charge. Listen, Hank's playing hurt right now. I support Max.
No, that's all me. That's all me. Will you, will you be the backup? Yeah. Okay.
Well, he'll be the third. I mean, tell Max to write that down. Yeah. Yeah. I'll write that down.
I'll write that down. We're good. I feel like Hank could.
show some strong competition hater of the year. So yeah, for sure. It's an award that I guarantee.
you, he'll, he will be nominated. Yeah. But Noah Lyles came out that he was upset because Adidas, when he was negotiating with Adidas for his new contract, they invited him to an Anthony Edwards event. Yeah. And he was like, this guy hasn't even been to an NBA finals.
So I actually, I understand Noah Lyles is basically like, I need to get my name out there. So be hater of the year and people will talk about me. Um, I think he knows what he's doing and I, I, I want to have his side in the fact that he can't be that dumb, that he thinks that, like running track every four years, is important as playing in the NBA. Oh, he does. He does.
Okay. So maybe he's that. This is,
this is what I love about Noah Lyles. I think it all comes naturally to him. Okay. He definitely.
got cut playing basketball, right? Like. he's got some very deep seated anger for any ball sport. Yeah. And he's like, why, why is track not the number one sport in America?
He was like a point.
guard that didn't have any handles whatsoever. And every time he was on a fast break, he'd.
dribbled off his foot. Yeah. No, Lyles, a little tip for you. Why don't you just say that you're going to try out for an NFL team? that would get you some nice publicity.
People would talk about it. People be like, wow, could you imagine? no, Lyles, running down and running, running a go route? Now you probably can't catch because you're this upset about, uh, Anthony Edwards, who's one of the best NBA players, but we'll deal with that later. Yeah.
He'd be, he would be sick on the chiefs. flag football, flag football. He, probably, he, there's. no, I know, Lyles. Definitely.
If you threw him a ball, he would not be able to catch it. No, that's the vibe I'm getting from him,
his anger towards the NBA. I felt like he excelled at puzzles from a young age. Yeah. Yeah. And he,
he also, uh, overcame, COVID, to get the hater going. I liked that. It was just better. And then
he was just like, now I got my hater back. I am a little bit concerned about the state of one sport in America. Okay. Swimming. Yeah.
Male swimming in America. Oh yeah. The French guy kicked our ass. French guy kicked her ass. Katie Ledecky, shout out to her.
I think she's like tied for the lead in gold medals. Shout out all our women. Yeah. I think they dominated. They dominated our men.
Our men stink at swimming. What happened? What happened to American men? Is?
it fellas? Is it gay to swim? Phelps might need to make a comeback. I actually think he could,
I think he'd probably do better than whatever these jackasses were. Yeah. But we only got one gold medal in male swimming. Uh, I don't know. I don't know what the problem is.
Do we like, I know, Huey, you can definitely swim, right? Well, probably. No, probably wasn't Caleb Dressel.
The big story was that he was watching the house of dragon too late one night. Yeah. So maybe we.
just got to take away TVs. Yeah. If we put our best players or best athletes into swimming,
we would dominate and we don't, we don't, I had fun. I listen, Olympics were fun. Can't say I watched a ton of it, but I watched it here and there. Yeah, it was good. It was good to have on.
in these desperate weeks that we just need to get through training camp. And the basketball was.
awesome. Basketball, the fact that the world has caught up and it makes it very exciting and there's drama involved in it. Like that was a dramatic game. Yeah. And, uh, I'm happy we won.
I would like to see an Olympics where they just select the athletes at random, like anybody from the United States could get put on any team. Yeah. And we have to compete just average people from around the world competing against other average people in random sports.
that they've never practiced. Well, they should have one average person in every single event, just so that we have a barometer to show, like, if you're just like, Hey, here's the a hundred meter dash, have just a random, like 35 year old dude running it. Yeah. We can be like, Oh, that's me. Yeah.
I suck. I lost by seven seconds. I think one of the funniest events for that would.
be the high jump where you have to try to jump over it backwards. I think most people, if you tried to do that motion, you would just land directly on your head and you wouldn't even get above the mat. Yeah. Pole vault. You just go straight sideways.
I mean, all of these. Yeah.
We should, we, they should absolutely have just a base person just competing in all these events, just so that we can see it, because it would, we would quickly realize how much better they are. Not that we don't, but there's always a little bit of you where it's like, that doesn't seem.
that hard. There should also, they all are very hard. There should be eating in the Olympics too. Yeah. Joey, Chestnut, Joey, we should put that in for that for 2028..
That would have rocked.
hotdog eating. That would have rocked. Um, you want to talk about football? Yeah. That was a fun weekend of football.
It was a great week. It's back. It's preseason. I lasted as long as I have lasted longer than I ever could ever. Oh, I didn't even try.
Yeah. I tried an hour and a half. I.
lasted. I didn't try. I saw all you were impressed. Yeah. So big cat.
Congratulations. Congratulations to you as well. How many, uh, how many Superbowls you think you're going to get? Listen, I don't.
want to talk about Superbowls. I just want to talk about, uh, the, the, the realization that I had, and, and this is going to get clipped and people are going to say I'm stupid and I'm doing it all over again. Um, watching Caleb Williams play quarterback made me feel like the dumbest person in the entire world forever, thinking that Mitch Trubisky and Justin Fields were the guys. Cause it looks so different. Yeah.
And I know it's preseason. I know it was only a few plays, but it just looks different. Like he's, he's, he's confident, poised, like reading the defense. It just looks different. I felt like such an idiot.
And yeah, I lasted an hour and a half.
And then I told the whole world to suck my dick from the back. Yeah. As you should, because my own experience watching Jaden on, uh, on Saturday, that one throw he had, and then big cat, when I found out that he audibled into that play, Oh my God, I covered my entire basement. Yeah. I got stalactites stripping from the ceiling.
Now I've never, I don't want to say never. He reminds me of RG three in the RG three good times. It's been 30 years since I've had a quarterback. that for longer than like 10 weeks, I could really root for and really think this is the guy. and know, this is the guy.
But big cat, he's so funny. I know. I agree. I agree. Ball is so good.
He's so fast. I agree. And he looks good in the uniform. It's awesome. I mean, you said RG three, I.
the, the screen dump off the Caleb Williams made when a guy had his hand in his face and it was like a broken play. Yeah. That looked like Patrick Holmes. Yeah. We got, I don't, I, but I'm not, I'm not, these are just, we should have prefaced this segment with, this is a safe space.
We're just talking to guys having fun talking. None of this is, we're not putting this on anyone. This is not what we're saying is going to happen. We're just saying what we saw in a preseason game.
when I saw sickos, what I saw in preseason week one, preseason week one, week one, uh, it was.
week two for the bears. We killed Williams and play week one. The excitement of having a team.
that, uh, that has a quarterback. It's like, we're, we're fans of different sport this year. It's like Sundays are going to be different. Deep Sundays are different this year. Like.
being like third and long Sundays, we could maybe still get this. Yeah. Hank, did you feel the same?
way about Joe Milton? Yeah, I actually, I made a list. I made a ranking. Oh, should we do rankings of rookie quarterbacks? Sure.
Number one, I had Joe Milton. Yep. Cause, Joe Milton is fucking.
awesome. Yeah. The boys fired up. Yeah. Boys.
And I also wouldn't have been watching those on what we were doing, coach Doug. So I pretty much watched the whole game and you could tell, you know, coming off the sidelines, like the team team was rallying already. QB controversy was rallying.
behind them. We'll see. I think so. And we are in phase one of the Joe Milton experience. Would.
this be, this would be so mean, though. If Joe Milton did to Bailey's happy, with Bailey's happy to Matt Jones.
Yeah. They're going to have a decision to make. four QBs, three spots. Yeah.
This segment is also a Milton tough. We're pretending to be guys that have never watched Joe Milton play in college at all. Yeah, no, that guy, how did that guy last until the sixth round? That guy should have been top 10.. Patriots get a six round steal.
Yeah. It repeats itself. Yeah. Number two, I had a tie between Caleb and Jaden. That's fair.
I wanted to be fair. And Joe Milton, obviously. number one, Caleb Jaden, number two, uh, JJ Arrington, number three, JJ. No, sorry. Sorry.
JJ, uh, McCarthy McCarthy. Yeah. Viking. number three, second defense, second defense. Where did Arrington come from?
I don't know. There's a player named JJ Arrington. Uh, number four, Bo Nix, Bo Nix, look good. This might be the season. Bo Nix number.
Bo Nix altogether. I feel like he's JJ. Arrington was a running back for the cow.
Yeah. Uh, Bo Nix, a lot of Heisman buzz around him this year. I think he's going to be good. Yeah. Uh, five, Spencer Ratler.
Spencer looked good. He plays for, he plays for an NFL team, but I looked up his stats and they were good. Uh, number six, Michael Penix, and then number seven, I, Drake may, it's a pretty good class and sets and Bennett, technically a rookie kind of, kind of, yeah. He, cause he sat out, he bounced back really nicely from his fourth interception,
his game winning drive. Yeah. Yeah. Anthony Richardson also kind of a rookie, kind of, yeah. Yeah.
It was fun watching football. I'm very excited. I'm going to let myself, I really did. I tried so hard PFT. I was like, I'm, I'm not going to be, I'm not going to do what I always do and just get crazy.
And I was like, I was basically the meme, the kid in class, like holding everything in. I was just for an hour, I was watching the bears and I was like, I'm not going to get crazy and tweet crazy. shit. Like this has got to be different. I got to act differently.
And then I just lost it and just bust it everywhere. He, he looked really good. He looked very good. So did Jaden. I'll tell you what, if I was going to be the worst clip.
ever, I don't care. I'm, I'm ready. Make no mistake. I'm ready to be hurt again. I am.
I haven't felt that way watching sports in a while. Markel Fultz was so good in summer league. Why do you have to make this about Philadelphia? Good point. What the fuck?
It's a good point.
I'm just saying the fuck, that's a fair point. Max. I'm not, I want to say I am not ready to get hurt again. Oh, I am. I am not.
I've been hurt too many times too recently. I feel like if we've played the, I am not ready to get hurt. Yes. That's why I'm not ready to get hurt again. But I just told you, Hank, I watched him play, Justin.
I knew Mitch wasn't a guy.
I'm not ready.
physically in a space where I could take the hurt again. It will, it will kill me. It will kill me.
This would be the last hurt of my life. Max, if you had to pick, if you had to rank between just the three of us in this room, which quarterback would you want first? Joe Milton. Good answer. He's got a rocket arm stud through an orange, 106 yards.
Yeah. I was thinking about it.
Uh, I think I would want the Patriots to be, to be the best. Why? Because I can already, I already know cocky Hank. I already know what it's like to be around Hank. It's the devil.
I know. I don't know how I, that makes sense. Yeah. Planet. Would we be worse?
No, that's a fair,
that's a fair. Yeah. We can't be worse than this guy. He's not true. He's drunk during.
your show right now, but I already hate Hank. I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to hate you guys. Yeah. You pass the breathalyzer right now. Yeah.
We should get a breathalyzer. I doubt it. Uh, I, I actually understand what you're saying, Max, because I don't know what I'm capable of. Like I, it's scary to think of what I could be capable of. If kill Williams was like incredible, I might be a monster.
Yeah. I mean, it would be cool. Like if Chicago was for the bears, that would be fun. Yeah. We need the hopes to get up.
I want both of you guys.
You're always doing it that way. You never, thank you, Hank. He wants us to make the playoffs. Thank you, Hank. Just, it was just preseason week one.
It was, and we might be, a year out,
but, Jaden. Yeah. CJ straw was really good in the preseason last year. I think more than anything, it's just the ups and downs. I have to figure out how to deal with.
better. It's the ups and downs. Well, we've, we haven't been here, but I'm like a drive by drive guy and I need to figure out how to be. very recently. I need to figure out like a month.
You had RG three very recently.
That was 12 years ago at Sam Howell. And it lasted like, Oh, remember how he did say it was a guy. I was talking soupy after two, two weeks last year. Yes. Um, that was 12 years ago, Hank.
And we had like maybe 13 weeks where he looked healthy. Sam, how was so good against the Eagles?
in that one game. He was twice since the podcast has existed. That's why I'm not ready to get hurt again. It's becoming like that. We haven't been here before.
Yes, you have. No, I haven't not. since RG three, second pick, overall sickos. Although I, I deep down, I feel like Packers. fans might actually think a little Jordan love, but I think they're a little worried.
The RG three.
croissant picture was so funny. Yeah. Very, very funny. He was always horny. He was deep throat in that day.
Yeah. Deep throating. Greta was not. Yeah. RG three.
He had that past the gag reflex.
She was not like in on the same joke that he was doing. I don't think it was a joke. Yeah. I don't think so either. He just loves croissant.
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Yeah. We're going to do a new place. Same faces, new places. I think we'll do that Wednesday now, soon, but Jamis, Jamis on the Browns is, is a match made in heaven. Uh, he had a very funny pregame speech, getting the boys fired up.
Tell us what he said in the pregame. reenact the pregame speech. Get us fired up.
What do you mean? Come on, do it. Get us fired up. Where are my dogs at? Okay.
That was good. And yeah, we're about to do a podcast. He said like, uh, I'm a spelled D, A, W, G, S, and then we'll go. Okay. So you do it, but do it for us, for the podcast.
Give me a D, D. Give me an a, a, give me a W, W.
Give me a G G. Give me an S? S where my dog's right here.
Jamis did it better. Yeah. I wasn't as fired up as the Browns were.
If you were Deshaun Watson, you saw that you'd be a little bit nervous, right? Of course. Jamis is the best. Like he's got, he's got a captive audience. Everyone's hanging on every.
word that he says. At bare minimum. You like if Deshaun Watson has an MVP types year, even with an MVP type year, the rest of the locker room likes Jamis more. Yeah. Like no matter what you.
have a backup quarterback that is liked more, the whole building likes Jamis more. Correct. Which, and he doesn't have all that baggage that Deshaun has. Correct. The history.
Correct. Facts. Good. Good. Back.
Thank you. Was that the last tweet you saw?
No, no. That's good. Who's back? Great. Who's back?
Thank you. We do your job. Thank you.
It's back. Yes. I thought your, who's back was going to be elevators. Uh, no, no elevators. We did get stuck in an elevator.
Oh, I,
we were just going down. We had too many people in the elevator. Was Max in it? Max was not in it. I was not in it.
It was bullshit. That was a bullshit question. I was not in the elevator. I got down safely. I got down safely.
Wait, so you, how many people did you get in the elevator? It was probably like 15.. I think it's like a, uh, 2000 weight limit. We had a couple, no Max, a couple of big boys, a couple of football players, former football players, quigs. Uh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Quigs, allowed to get fucking shots. Hank, you were in there too. I wasn't there. And I was like, Oh yeah, we're good. Let's just squeeze on.
And then we got to the first floor and then you just felt it go even lower. It was a right down to the first floor. Got down to the floor and then it dropped. Oh, you sank too low. They had to open the door.
It took like 10, 15 minutes and then we had to basically climb out onto the first floor. Was that Thrice?
and Krupp elevator? I know it wasn't an Otis. Otis would never malfunction like that. So, Hank, answer me this. Had you been drinking alcohol before this?
Yes. Okay. So, um, yeah, I would imagine if you're stuck in an elevator with 15 people that had been drinking, not Max, uh, some, somebody had to go to the bathroom at some point, right? No, it wasn't. It hadn't gotten to that.
point, but everyone was, everyone was pretty chilled. No one was freaking out. You know, we were squeezed in pretty tight. Uh, it was a nightmare. It was good.
It was good vibes. I think if it went another like 10 minutes and you know, some people might've been like claustrophobic or, you know, had to pee, but it wasn't too, too bad. I'm just so mad that Max wasn't on that elevator.
Did you get some tunes going? I was playing some music. Yeah. What's good elevator music?
Billy strings. Yeah. You're obsessed with Billy. Well, that was just what was on my Spotify being played. So I just, you know, press play.
Kept it going. We're also, we're playing it. We're playing a great playlist. Um, V, I think you, you asked for it. I just looked it up on Spotify.
The.
playlist is called just Vietnam war music. Yeah. Yeah. I was watching the planes at Hank's place and they brought the helicopters out. I was like, we got to blast.
fortunate, son. Yeah. It's a must,
but it's a great playlist. I've been playing it all day. Nice. You've got a little mini Vietnam going on in your brain right now. That's all.
It's a constant Vietnam in my brain. Let's try to avoid landmines. No one's winning. Yeah. A lot of resources.
No one's winning. All right. Dad, elevators being, I've been stuck in one elevator in my life. It was brutal. It's just like that.
first five minutes. Like, are we getting out? Are we never getting out? And then you realize you're probably going to be fine. Yeah.
It's called the fire department. No, it wasn't. I wasn't that worried about it. until once we got out, I was like, Oh, that was kind of bad. Like you had to step.
So you would, what if you got caught when you were stepping up? or, yeah. If you're stepping up and the thing came down, that would've been bad. Yeah. We've been.
real bad. We've been a shame. Real bad. Okay. PFT, your who's back.
My who's back of the week is the Indianapolis Colts. Yeah. They just redid Lucas oil stadium. They did some renovations to it. Some major innovations, to the point where I don't think they could open up the roof.
They opened up the window, uh, and they were trying to open the roof up, but they couldn't, I guess they've taken some things down from the stadium and the stadium roof is not used to being opened in this new configuration. One of the things they took down, uh, was sent to our office. It's a piece of NFL history to say lightly, um, Jim Mercer, especially packaged up and sent over, first of all, very nice letter for myself and big cat normal signature, totally cool signature, referred to as Mr. Cat and Mr. Comments.
I like that touch. And he added in a little line about, sometimes it takes a real friend to tell you when you're pissing in the wind. Yep. So we opened up the package. and what's inside, but the 2014 AFC finalists banner, the one that was hanging up in Lucas oil stadium.
So we have that here at Barstool HQ, the deflate gate game. It's the deflate gate game that Hank actually is responsible for that banner. Yes. And arrested because of that banner. Yeah.
That you can't tell the story of the NFL without the 2014 Colts, AFC finalists banner. We've had a lot of fun with that banner over the years. I think memes has made like 70 Photoshop's of it. Uh, and now it's ours and we got to figure out a place to hang it up. We own it.
We own it. But thank you to Mr. Incredible Colts. never in a million years. I knew that there was a package coming from them.
never in a million years that I think it was going to be that banner. No. So we tried to find a place to hang it up in the office. It's so big that there's maybe one or two places we can hang it up, but we have to figure out a good place for.
it. Yeah, we do. Um, it's an incredible gift. It is a piece of NFL history. Thank you to Mr.
Ursa. Also, very funny way to like rid yourself of that. Yeah. Cause, like putting it back up, you really can't do. it's been mocked a lot, but to send it to us, it's like we have it now.
Yeah.
TJ had a very good suggestion, which was to get Christian Ushak to make jackets out of it.
I want to, I want to upholster, reupholster. I like that. All of Vanny Woodhead. Just turn it into the banner on the inside. The entire inside of Vanny Woodhead is just the banner.
What if we?
just got in touch with Darren Revell and clit and had him cut it up and then make trading cards.
probably with actual pieces of the banner on it. We also had, uh, speaking to Colts, uh, my new favorite NFL fan. Uh, I didn't know this guy. He apparently he's like, I don't know. Colts fans know who he is.
Flow with. Seth makes a, uh, music video before every game, including preseason games. I'm going to play you flow. assess. It's only 30 seconds.
His, his preseason music video for, uh, the Broncos versus the Colts preseason week one, shout out this guy. We need to maybe get him to do a custom song for us.
This is our Colts. This is our team. We bleed blue. This is for preseason. This is our Colts.
Whether win or lose, we love them. For the shoe, beat the Broncos. Let's show them who the real.
horses. This is our team. Go Colts. The neigh really does it for me. The neigh does it for me.
That was horrible. What are you talking about? That was awesome. Football fan, Hank. That's a football guy through and through.
He makes a custom song for every game. I like to deliver. Let's show them who. the real horses. Yeah.
And then the neigh, the neigh was everything. They, the neigh went like, you're kind of listening to it. Like, I don't know. I don't know. Then.
the neigh hits and you're like, this guy rocks. I think Hank had already written them off after.
the opening line. I was sad, Hank. Yeah. Take it back. Flow of Seth is the man.
Flow of Seth is the man. Say it. No. Okay. He can do better.
He can do better. I don't know. It was week one. It's.
preseason for Flow of Seth too. That's facts. Get used to it. Um, I was thinking, if they tried to auction off that banner, how much it would go for. And then I realized we'd probably be the ones that would bid on it.
Yeah. We were just, yeah, we dropped the price up. Yeah. Yeah. Awesome.
gift. Awesome gift. Did you guys like Flow of Seth?
Loved them. Okay, good. A voice of an angel. Yep. Um, yeah, we got to, I think.
the banner, I think we can put it behind the video board.
Yeah. It needs to be somewhere prominent. That's what I was thinking too. But,
but that's pretty prominent. Like you walk in and you see it. I just love it. I look at it and I smile. Yeah.
It does need to be hung up. I want to see it all the time. It's probably the nicest.
gift I've ever gotten in my entire life. Yeah. Yeah, probably. Yeah. Think about it.
Like what.
could top that? Oh, they're trying to figure out if they can put it up. We're trying to think of if we can make it our entire booth. It's way too big. No, but they could do it like all the way around.
Like, even on top. Maybe. Yeah. Like, no, like, like everyone would do that in their dorm room. Trying to be cool.
Put the flag little draped down. Yes. Like, get the vibes right. If we, I think it, no, I want to find a good place. I'm just telling you because I got to.
lay eyes on this thing when it was unfurled. It's way too big for that room. But what if we,
what if we wrapped it where it, like, was on every single piece? Yeah. I'm thinking like completely all the way around. I still think it'd be too. No, even in front of the glass.
Yeah. I can live with that. We should give it a try. We should give it a try around the room. Uh, okay.
My who's back? the week is a PGA tour, because, uh, Graham McDowell on the live got, uh, one game, one week suspension, uh, for using nasal decongestant. That's what he said. Yeah. He said that it was Vicks.
Yeah. It was Vicks, uh, banned substance either way. I was shocked to know that this count for announcers too. Cause Jake might be trouble. Oh yeah.
But I was shocked to know that live had a steroid. I thought that was the entire point. It was like,
Hey, Dustin Johnson, come play on our tour. Right. So the PGA tour is back. Yeah. Like this is bad.
for the live. You can, you have to, you, you, you have no rules. You play golf with shorts.
I'm pretty sure that they could say they could sweep this under the rug. If you, who is it? Graham McDowell, Graham McDowell. Yeah. If it was somebody not named Graham McDowell,
the next event he'll be at is the live Chicago event. Maybe we should go out with the big Asterix poster board. I'm going to use so much nasal spray. I can't believe you took away the game. We love, wait, is that the, that's the next event?
That's the next, well, he's suspended from the next event. Okay. Then the next event he can play in is the live Chicago event. But yeah, when they said golf, but louder, I didn't think it was going to have, you know, Vicks vapor rub.
was going to be included. Yeah. Just fucked up. Yeah. They shouldn't, you should, if you're the make everything legal.
Yeah. Have it be steroids, but golf. Right. Tackling. Yes.
And a football and football. And then, uh, and then your championship game is February. Yeah. Yeah. And you redo the tee shot at the beginning.
I mean, they make it very confusing when nobody knows what's going on. They definitely will try to create a football league. I'm in Saudis more.
football. Yeah. Uh, all right. Huey, your who's back of the week. My who's back, uh, the good quarterback controversy is perfect time of year for that.
Uh, I think right now in new England and Denver, uh, maybe a little, you know, a little talk about it happening in Tennessee, maybe, Oh, uh, just, just a good old, it's always the mid tier teams. Uh, it's never, it's never, you know, the top tier Superbowl winning potential teams who are in quarterback controversies, but the quarterback, who could be a controversy, could come out, you know, like a Russell Wilson and Matt Flynn situation. There could be a guy who comes out of this. So it doesn't mean that, you know, they're going to be a guy this year, but this could be a future thing, especially for the Patriots. or this is the season.
This is the time when we all, yeah. And I feel like in Denver,
at least Sean Payton has said so many nice things about Bo Nix. You know how coaches don't really give a shit. what you do in the preseason. Yeah. Sean Payton probably felt like he had to let Bo Nix have a great performance.
So you're probably schemed some shit up for that. So he didn't look.
like an idiot. That's a reputation pick. Yes. His reputation is on the line. Um, I think.
the same with pet pedics, uh, although Kirk is going to be the starter, but yeah, it is fun having this time of year. Well, it's fun being on the other side. Yeah. There's, I don't have a quarterback controversy here. It's fucking.
as much as I love Tyson Bayesian. There is no God. Yeah. There's, I literally have no other good quarterbacks. Yeah.
There was the year that the bears brought in. We brought in foals and Andy Dalton. That was sad. That was the saddest quarterback. By the way, we should have said foals.
Happy retirement. We didn't mention it on Friday, Hank. Good riddance memory.
None. None. Okay. You can't think of one. Nope.
Come on. You can.
know game. So game was cool. You remember when you threw that? I don't know if he was a quarterback. Wait, he didn't throw it.
Fuck him. Didn't he? Didn't he, uh, at one point, catch a ball in the super bowl was in the same game that Tom Brady didn't catch a ball where he dropped it. That seems like a very special play. It does seem special.
Max. Yeah, no, I like that. play. Max. What, uh, where does Nick foals rank for you?
All-time Eagles? top five, top five, top five. Yeah, for sure. I mean, yeah, I guess that makes sense. For sure.
Without a doubt. He didn't play long enough to be number one more than hurts. Yeah. He won a super bowl. He did.
Yes. Right. Right now.
Full career for Nick falls. Yeah. Nick falls, not a Hall of Famer, but he did have that one season where he like a magical season. We should do a Mount Rushmore of guys that had like,
we had two magical seasons. Yeah. He had the one season that people 22 and two. was it? 22 touchdowns to two interceptions.
It was crazy. He couldn't throw a pick that year, but no one thought. Yeah. And then we traded for Sam Bradford. Yeah.
But he, he had, let's see, Nick falls, super bowl. And Oh, this is, he's got 87 million, uh, in the bank cash. He made the snow game. Also, this is very, that's on me. Very depressing because, uh, I just pulled up his earnings.
I was at that game. He, his birthday is January 20th, 1989.. Oh no. I thought that was what my, if you listen back, when I said, Oh, that was because I saw in 1989, I was like, he just retired. He's four years younger than us.
If you had asked me, I would have said 1983.
He seemed so old, right? Nick falls as old as fuck. Oh, actually, I was thinking about this,
uh, side tangent. If LeBron wanted to, how long do you think he could play?
So he's, he's embracing the gray thing. I don't know if it's a Paris deal where he's like, I'm going to let my beard grow out and have it be gray. So everyone sees how gray I am. And yeah, Oh, old, old King still reigns that type of thing. Um, but based on the way that he played, uh, if he, if his, if his steroid guy is still around, I think we'll get to the steroid Mount.
Rushmore. I think he could play another five years. But, but hold on. I should, I asked that incorrectly. If he embraced being like, I'm not going to be LeBron James, but I'm going to play till I'm like not good enough to play in the NBA.
I think it'd be 10 years. Maybe like if he, if he in five years from now said, I'm cool, coming up, like being a bench guy, coming off the bench for like five minutes a game, he, he will be better in at 45, five minutes off the bench than a ton of players. I think at least five more years, right? At least like he is very interesting. I don't think that.
I know that that's not how he's going to want to go out. He will. He's not going to want to go out being on the bench, but he's the first time where it's like, like what, um, what's his name? Hasm did. no, he says, yeah, you don't, yeah, you don't, as hasm.
But like, he wasn't actually contributing at the end, but like LeBron, it's crazy to think, but I actually would say that LeBron, if he wanted to play basketball at 50 years old,
could probably make an NBA roster. He probably could. Yeah. I don't think that's that far off, because right now he's still top five in the world. He's top 10..
I think he's probably top five in the world. Yeah. In the, in the U S top 10, but still, I feel like he could, but Tatum's better. What is he? If they were on the same team, who do you think would get the?
minutes?
We Hank, we didn't mean to get back to this point. It just happened. What we're talking about, LeBron, is the magic of the show. If I was bringing up an actual hypothetical, we just ended.
up backing this. If you were to take the five best players in the United States, would you have LeBron in there or Tatum Tatum? But if you're trying to win, so would he stop? Yeah. He'd be in.
the closing lineup. He should be. Yeah. It'd be my closing lineup. Okay.
Uh, yeah, I think at least five more years. Yeah. I just, I kind of want him here, LeBron, you can save your legacy for me personally, which I know you care so deeply about. If you just try to push it as far as you can and see if you can play when you're 55, Jordan never won six man of the year, right? He, like, he could be, I don't know.
It'd be cool. Be cool to see. He wouldn't do it, but it would be cool to see you.
get an entire season of load management, right? Just put them in. I'm going to go as hard as you.
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And then, after that, we will do our Mount Rushmore. Hopefully not as contentious as yellow. Actually. I hope it is. Uh, but, PFT, you got a couple ads before we get to Matthew Stafford.
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Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very special guest. It is a future Hall of Famer, Super Bowl champ. It is our Grit Week interviews, presented by Coors Light. It is Matthew Stafford. First of all, thank you for joining us.
Of course, thank you guys for having me on. Yeah, so we start every Grit Week interview with the same question. How would you?
define the word grit? Oh man, that's the good stuff. That's just being able to fight through whatever is ailing you, whether it's a situation or how you're feeling, but being able to push through anything to get whatever the goal is accomplished, right? Whether that's winning a football game, having a good play, you know, rallying for the next night out, whatever it is.
You gotta have a little grit. Separating your shoulder and coming down the field. That clip, you are a gritty quarterback. You've gone through a ton. I mean, you've gotten hit a million times.
You're tough as hell. Do you ever watch that clip of you famously separating your shoulder and then being like, hey, come out? And you're like, no, I'm not fucking coming out. Do you watch that and be.
like, man, I am tough? No, I usually think about that clip, or I see that clip and I just start wincing again. But no, it's a cool thing that I got. I'm lucky to have been mic'd up by NFL Films for that moment. Otherwise, everybody's just calling me an idiot.
Get back up. Let's go, you wuss. But it was kind of a cool moment to have. Yeah, cool. You were like, get off me.
You.
actually had to push trainers off you. Yeah. Does that usually work? Yeah, usually. They're kind of.
soft. You can kind of get what you want. when it comes to those guys. That was a weird one, right? They called timeout.
And for some reason in my head, the moment it clicked, it was like, that counts as basically my play that I had to sit out so I could go back in, and I knew there was only going to be one more play. So I could get through one play with whatever was.
going on. What hat are you wearing right now? What is that? Dodger hat. Dodger hat.
Do you?
know anyone that plays for the Dodgers? No, I don't. Just an outside fan. You never went to school with anybody? No, just, you know, from the outside, looking in.
Can we fact check that? Really? Do a deep dive. I don't know if anybody's heard of it. I mean, you play the games, so you.
don't listen to the games. Do you know how annoying that is? Yeah, I mean, I do. Yeah. I.
mean, all my friends and family do the same shit to me all the time. And, you know, give me a tough time. But yeah, I get it. You know, it was cool 10, 12 years ago. But yeah, everybody gets it.
And now we have Scotty. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's just too much. It's crazy.
It's wild. When he got.
arrested, were you like, oh man, this is dragging our high school. No, I was like, good for you,
bro. You're just trying to make your tea time, man. Like, guy's, just trying to make his tea time.
Yeah. Yeah. Do you ever feel like you don't get enough credit for doing the no-look passes?
I don't know. I don't think about it too much, to be honest, as far as like credit goes, you know. I know that they're fun when they work. They're kind of shitty when they don't. But it is, it's part of it.
You know, I think defenses are so good these days. These guys are so good at reading what we're doing with our eyes. So I'm just trying to take advantage any little way I.
can. How long have you been doing that? Is that something that's just more of a recent thing that we're noticing because there's more camera angles everywhere? Or were you doing that like way back?
in the day? You know, I think it's probably, you know, been publicized a little bit more recently, but I was having to do that probably back in the day with Calvin. You know, everybody in the building, I was trying to throw him the ball. So I had to find different ways to make it look like I wasn't throwing him the ball and try to move underneath coverage to throw it to him. But yeah, I mean, it's definitely gotten more, you know, publicity, I guess, recently.
But I had to do that with Megatron, just trying to get him the ball.
Yeah. When he retired, how often would you call and be like, can you just maybe, please?
Just one more game?
For the love of God, please come back. Like, I need you.
No, it was, you know, like that's one of those, he was such a special player, such like a generational player and such a great teammate that I was genuinely just so happy for him that he was walking away when he wanted to walk away. He was an all-time great. We all knew it. It was unbelievable to get the chance and the opportunity to play with him as a young player. But I was so happy for him and I'm still so happy for all his success.
But, you know, yes, our team was better when he was out there. There's no question about that. But I was happy for his career and his ability to walk away when he wanted to, which I think is such a cool thing.
Do you have a favorite throw ever?
Uh, no, probably not. I mean,
There's got to be at least one or two that are up there.
There's a couple of good ones that I can remember that were kind of fun and meaningful. In the Dallas game, back in the day at Detroit, big comeback. late in the game, that last two-minute drive, I ended up hitting a rail shot to Chris Durham, who was my college roommate. You know, played a few leagues, a few years in the league with me and hit him on a long ball down the left side into like a two Tampa coverage, which was a cool shot. Um, in London against the Falcons, uh, we were down big and I think it was the touchdown.
I think that got me the, um, career Lions. TD mark, passing TD mark. I threw one to Golden Tate. That was just a launch. That was a good one.
Um, Do you know when it's like, when you're throwing like?
a deep ball, you know, the second you release, you're like, damn that I fucking, that's a good.
one. That's a good one. Yeah, no doubt. Yeah. Well, that was kind of a weird one.
They were like, Hey, Hey, every once in a while, they would just kind of rush three, drop eight. And I just told GT, I was like, Hey, man, just keep running. And it was one of those, I kind of bought a little bit of time. Um, it was third, crazy long, might've been 20, something like that. And hit a long touchdown.
Um, similar to the one I hit Cooper in, uh, Tampa and the divisional round, right? Like third and 19.. They're like, Oh, they're just going to check it down. And that's when you can kind of go for the dagger every once in a while. Now you're going to throw a couple picks doing that too.
But, um, some, some touchdowns that get you back in a game or do?
something big. So yeah, that one against Tampa was sick. We also have a coworker who's the most annoying person in the world. There's a diehard Bucs fan. He literally snatched the soul out of.
his body. I love that. That was, that was a crazy, crazy. I mean, and honestly, the, the deep ball to Cooper in that game to put us in field ranges, like as far as a full play, I mean the situation, the whole thing, that was a really, really special one.
Weird question for you. Yes. Um, first time you ever checked your MX points, how many did you have? This might've been a question from a weirder guy, Dan Orlovsky. Oh gosh.
I don't know. Orlovsky, did I tell him? I don't know. Yeah. He's just said that.
I said, what? It's a lot of points.
I've never used any, let's put it that way. I've never used. you ever use any, I don't know. I'm kind of at the point now where I'm like, I don't know if I will. So our boss, Dave, he has 60.
million points and he said he will never use them. I don't have that many, but, uh, so you'll never.
use them. I have a lot. Yeah. I have a lot of points, and you're never going to use it. I don't.
know. I don't think so. Wow. I love that. What if somebody like wants your points?
Like you're not,
I mean, we could talk about it afterwards. if that's what you want to do. Your points. Listen,
I, I don't want to say like, I, I didn't, I'm, I'm a bears fan, so I. obviously lions and bears are playing, but I always was like, I respect the fuck out of Stafford. I had to take that. You're going to be a hall of famer in 2018 and people laughed at me. I appreciate that.
That sounds like it should be worth a few. Yeah. I can throw a couple of points your way. Have you, have you thought of that, though? Like you are MX points.
Well, MX points, but yes, also hall of fame. Your career has been phenomenal. You are. And I, my point at the time was look at his longevity. If he has a deep playoff run, obviously win a super bowl, he's going to be right there.
And if you look right now, three to four, if you play three or four more years, you're going to be top five passing yards, top 10 touchdowns. Have you had a second to look back and be like, damn,
like I'm stacking it up here. Yeah. I mean, I think I definitely, every year that I play now, I just appreciate so much. And I think back on, I mean, we were just talking about, you know, plays from my rookie year and it's like, man, that was a long, long time ago. I'd walk into a locker room with guys that were six, seven, eight, nine years old when I first came into the league, which is kind of crazy to think about.
But I definitely appreciate my opportunities and appreciate this game. I mean, it's given me a ton. I hope I got three or four more left in me. We'll see. Every year is a new year, but I do feel good.
And as far as the history books and all that kind of stuff, I have so much respect for this game. Like I was the kid that grew up watching NFL films, watching Steve Sable and those guys, voiceover stuff. And like, I was all in on Johnny Unitas and slinging Sammy ball and all the guys. Right. So I have a ton of respect for this game and just being anywhere near guys like that in that kind of conversation is incredibly humbling and something that I don't think about on a day-to-day basis, but when it comes up, man,
it's a ton of appreciation for me. Well, I had your back. I was going back through it today, looking at it, and people were like, no chance. I was like, dude, he's been, he's played so many games. Yeah, I appreciate it.
And the Super Bowl on top of that. Yeah. So what, like a million Amex points? Yeah, I can get you that. Okay.
All right. That actually speaks very highly for Dan.
Orlovsky. The fact he is a great analyst. If he knows how many Amex points you have and you don't even know, it's also very weird that he knows that. I'm going to check my password when we.
leave here. Just make sure it's not Orlovsky8.. Do you ever tell Dan like, Hey, chill out, man. Like you, you love me a little too much. No, I don't.
You know, I just accept it all. I accept it all. Keep bringing it. He's the man. I had.
such a great, he's such a good dude. He's such a great guy to be, you know, a part of a team with. He was a great backup for me and taught me a lot. So I, I appreciate Dan and everything, everything he says. Did you get a little bit?
jealous when he started going hard about Carson Wentz? You're like, Oh, no, does he have an issue?
Yeah. I thought that was kind of fucked up. I thought we had, it was a trust tree thing and he, he just decided to turn his back for a minute. He came back. If you love something, set it free.
if it returns. Yeah. I mean, you throw a guy Amex points, he'll do anything,
you know? Yeah. Turn right back around. So I pulled up a stat earlier. Since 2011,, you have the most fourth quarter comebacks of any quarterback.
Yeah. Have you considered?
sucking less in the first three? Yeah. I, you know, I think about it, but that's such a good stat. Like I can't let that go to somebody else. Yeah.
No. Three, four games a year, you know, just kind of toy around the first three quarters and then figured out late.
Mr. Comeback. Yeah. Why not? Yeah.
Uh, I got a weird question. Our good friend, Tony Scheffler, we played with Detroit. When Dave and I beat him two on one in his driveway, did anyone in the lion's locker room give him shit for that? Uh, I don't know that we did, but,
uh, man, how is Tony doing? I haven't talked to Tony in forever. He's the freaking man. He's the best. I love that guy.
He was all time celebrations guy. Yeah. The, the, uh, in Tampa Bay, the Buccaneer sword, the Kansas city chiefs. He had the loincloth. We were, he was making the smoke, uh, smoke signal.
He was all time celebration guy. Super fun guy. Great dude. One of the hall.
of fame. dude. Who's your favorite teammate you've ever played with? Oh man. Um, that's a good.
question. Uh, I got a bunch, man. I think, like early on the offensive lineman, the guys that I had, like Dominic Rayola was a big time, uh, you know, great teammate, taught me a bunch. Also kind of a psycho, but in like a good way. Yeah.
Kid baller. Yeah. I mean, unbelievable, talented quarterback. You're his godfather, right? Yeah.
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