Von Miller, The PAC 12 Is Dead, We Had A Real Baseball Fight + Mt Rushmore Of Acronyms

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Welcome to part of my take. Today is Monday, August 7th, and the Pack 12 is dead, completely dead.

I feel bad for Washington State fans, I feel bad for some of the like Oregon state fans. Cal Stanford realignment kind of sucks for them. Now. It's going to be cool two years and you get to see some of these matchups.

It's a I'm very conflicted, and I also know when I'm speaking about this before anyone tries to correct me. I know that I'm speaking from a place where my team is safe. So it, it, it definitely changes how I look at the realignment. realignment does suck.

I like Conference of Champions.

I liked that there was different brands of football. I just don't understand when people say that college football is dying. Because guess what, on Saturday, I will still watch. And there are some new wrinkles that I actually am excited about. The Big 12 rocks, the new Big 12 rocks.

Yeah, it will rock, but what if you're? what if you're like a, uh, one of the smaller sports? Like if you're a volleyball player? And you're in Washington and you have to travel now to Piscataway, well, this is the hypocrisy of the whole thing is.

When all these, uh, athletic department heads and you know, presidents of the schools are like, student athletes, student athletes. And they're like, Oh, an Oregon softball player now has to travel to Rutgers for like, a weekend. And they come back there they are. They're not doing anything for student athletes. It is all for the money, it's all for the TV money.

Larry Scott is, he's the big villain in all this, Larry Scott. When they brought him in, they were like, this guy is a visionary. He understands the future of sports better than anybody. I remember he was doing like the rounds.

That's the new commissioner, by the way. The new Larry Scott was out. Larry Scott basically created the death of the Pack 12, and then the new commissioner, George Cleve Cough, basically buried them all the way.

But but Larry Scott was the guy that absolutely fucked everything up. He he just kind of milked everybody for all their money and he spent it on like $10,000 hotel suites.

He created, he created a, uh, programming network that, like, pretty much the entire country, couldn't get on their TV. And yet they got boxed into a spot where George Cleve Cough, uh, got hopped in line by the Big 12 on the rights, so the Big 12 was able to get their rights. And then Apple TV was it.

And it just over, Washington made a good point, which was like, if, if. The strength. And. The big selling point for why we should do this deal is the fact that we're going to be able to get out of the deal in two years. Once we sign it, then that's a bad deal. If the best part of your contract is the fact that you are going to be allowed to leave your contract, bad contract, move on.

It was, it was, they basically were trying, he was. Cleve Cough was trying to sell the pack. 12 teams on a commission structure. They're like, if you if we get 5 million new subscribers, we could being like big 10 schools.

And and what this was really about was, uh, the Big 10, um, had the leg up on the Pack 12 when it came to how long the duration of their contract was. So when the Big, the Big 10 was able to renegotiate their media deal before the Pack 12 was. And then they got all the good time slots and they got. They got put in, uh, in a favorable position on the TV deal, and then the Pack 12 was like, well.

You mean, the Big 12, the Big 10 was already set.

The big 10 came to the Yeah.

And the Big 12 hopped in front of the pack last iteration.

Yeah, so they should have done like an eight year deal, not a huge, massive longterm deal. Even though this piece of shit, Larry Scout was like, This is what's going to set us up for the most success in the future. Is signed this big deal, it's stable. They got jumped in line.

And they also didn't have a linear partner like they. The Big 10 had its own Big 10 did something similar to the Pac 12, where they made it the Big 10 network. But they also had it in conjunction with Fox. So you could watch their big games and the Pack 12 was just completely antiquated. I have a quote for you that, uh, I'd like you to just tell me who, who maybe said this. This was from 2021, uh, this was said. You look at the metrics, you look at the numbers, and any way you cut and slice and dice the numbers. You come to the conclusion that no Pac 12 school is going to the Big.

That would be Bill Walton.

That was George Kleeve Cough.

The Uh, Pac 12 commission, like two weeks ago, right?

No, that was two years ago, but still, he, he could not have been more wrong. Uh, it, it, it completely. The PaC 12 was completely gone. I don't really know. I like, part of me thinks that the PAC 12 is best. Chance now is to just take the four remaining schools and be like, Hey, Mountain West, do you want to just be the new PaC 12??

Well, that's that's. Gonzaga's fine. They're time to shine now, they're going to play in a major conference after everybody else has already left. I saw one idea this might be the stupidest idea.

I mean, ACC tried to do a last second, like, let's save the Pac 12 and go back to our alliance days. And, uh, figure out something. That was the golden age. It sucks, it does suck. I do feel bad. Um, for the teams that were left out. I just, I go back to the point of I'm going to keep watching.

There was one thing that the, uh, I think it was a president of Washington said. That this isn't totally about dollars and cents. It's a hundred percent, about 100, it's. There's no other thing that factored in the equation close to the level that money has just played this whole correct. There's a. There's absolutely no reason for this to ever occur in a. In a sport where, like traditions and the fan bases that have grown up watching these games are still active.

Yeah, and it's it's future safety that all these teams are vying for, and the Big 10 provides it, the SEC provides it. They've done a great job.

That's for sure. You know what we need? We need Saudi Arabia to step up and start funneling some money into college.

Sports for Florida State Florida State's looking for outside investment Florida.

State Miami would definitely. They would give an arm and a leg. Well, that's probably a bad choice. They would. They would love to be in bed, with probably another bad choice. They would love to do business with the Saudi government.

Correct? Um, shout out Colorado, by the way. Uh, maybe like the the most foresight of any university. Because they left the Big 12 for the Pack 12 15 years ago, and then they left the Pack 12 for the Big 12, right as the Pack 12 was about to die.

They were just reloading, they were just getting ready.

They've just hopped from rock to rock and survived this whole thing.

Dancing through the raindrops, Yeah.

I the it does suck, though, and it's going to be weird. I will say this, though, this college football season is going to rule because you have all of this, all of everything. Status quo. And it's going to be so much animosity between. Like, not only Texas and Oklahoma. Being in the Big 12 this year, going to the SEC UCLA, USC, staying in the Pack 12 this year, going to the Big 10, Washington, Oregon. Like all these games are going to be, there's going to mean a lot, lot more, like there's going to be some real, real anger for the teams that.

Are left behind the conference, realize late realignment discussion that we have, and it seems like it's every off season, we talked about something different. That's going on with that.

Yeah, and it's it shouldn't have happened, but it's unfortunately happened. Um, Rip Pack 12 after dark, that's sad. I mean, that was the best.

Mac's not going anywhere.

So, uh, this was from Ben Scott, Steven said. The Mid American Conference, a staple of consistency. All 12 current full members have been in the conference since at least 1998. Half of the league has been a member since 1952. None of the other nine FBS conferences can say that.

They won't, they won't. I think we should do a pizza party for the winner of the Pack 12, not this year, but next year. Yeah, future plans.

Yeah, the Pack 12 just fucked this up every single way. And they also even like voting against, uh, like they, they delayed the vote on, uh, automatic qualifiers for the expanded playoff. That fucked them. Like, they're just they could not have screwed this up more. And it does suck because, like we said, for the student athletes, it's brutal.

I want to know what's going to happen with the Cougars flag on game day. Are we going to keep that up? Is there going to be a protest? They will, they should boycott.

They will know that yet, cause ESPN is part of the reason. Yeah, they should be in a fox.

If I was Washington State, I would boycott College Game Day. I would not have a flag in the background. Silent protest. Get more eyes on the on the issue right there. Probably won't accomplish anything, but we'll send a message loud and clear, yeah.

So I'm going to still watch. There will be some fun new wrinkles. The Big 12 does rule now. Just looking at the teams, did you see the map to poor New Mexico?

This is also going to all be up for discussion and probably two or three more years.

I don't know.

I mean, there's going to be more changes, it just nothing stays the same in college.

Yeah, I mean, there there will be more change. Because the ACC still has to get figured out, and the ACC is in a in a bad deal that they're trying to get out of. Um, but yeah, the whole thing sucks, and I still will watch, I am. I am both upset but also resigned to the fact that I'm completely controlled by the fact that if you put live football, college football or college basketball on a TV, I will watch.

Yeah, it's like, a was it Trump's diet? Coke tweet like, the people at Coke are mad at me, that's okay.

Um, okay, anything else from realignment? I mean, I did see the interior exterior, uh, big 10 conferences, that are divisions that they were throwing out there, kind of interesting inside, outside.

Yeah.

Be inside, outside, who's in the middle? Uh, it would be like, uh, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Indiana, Purdue, northwestern Illinois, um, and then it'd be like, you know, Washington, U.S.C, UCLA, Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, all those I feel like.

Rutgers should be in interior.

No, their exterior, unfortunately, Maryland's interior. Okay, this is just sources that I've heard.

So, uh, what are they? what are they going to do, how are they going to divvy that up? You might not have that sweet schedule.

I don't think I think they're going, I don't think you can make. I think it's just going to be an 18 team conference. And because the College football playoff is expanding, knowing that like three, maybe even four Big 10 teams will go to the College football playoff. You just deal with it, you know what I mean like?

The Pac 12 needs to figure out some way to get people to continue watching their games, even without the big matchups. They got to figure out a way to do, like Savannah Bananas of college football.

No, they need to add the Mountain West. I think that's the move, cause otherwise those teams are just going to go.

I love that Stanford would go independent, yeah.

Why not? I mean, it's crazy to think that just 12 years ago, like Stanford, was a team that was, you know, the Harbaugh. Early David Shaw years was just in the mix every single year. And that, like even those little wrinkles I'm going to miss. I'm going to miss every year believing that Oregon is so fucking good. They can beat anyone and then they play Stanford in November and get punched in the mouth and lose.

It sucks, I hope they figure it out. I just I do feel bad for the smaller schools getting fucked over in this. Yeah, no, it's the worst part about sports.

And those schools are really fucked because to keep up with everyone else. They put a ton of money in their facilities and stadium and now they have a shitload of debt. Like, I think Washington State just re revamped their entire stadium.

Yeah, they had to.

And now and now they're playing, yeah, they're not going to be playing big time Power Five football anymore.

It is kind of crazy how in America, football controls our education system. Yeah, it does. Football rules everything around me. Frame.

I know, um, all right, other things that happened this weekend. Tim Anderson got knocked out.

Cold, good fight, though. I like, I like seeing guys square up. This needs to happen in baseball. It was awesome.

And it's very rare, for as much as baseball has fighting, you know, in the in the fact that they have fighting, that's allowed somewhat. Uh, it's very rare that you see a guy get knocked out cold. I think it's only I was thinking about it, what Joey Bats got knocked out, right?

Uh, yeah, he got knocked down.

He got knocked out.

I would say he got knocked out.

Tim Anderson got knocked out that I, if you're Tim Anderson. Someone on your team has to be like, Hey, just lay down and wait for the cart, because if you take the cart out, then you know that. Everyone has to say, well, he might be really injured. We have to be care, like, don't make jokes.

I do love that moment though, when the guys look at each other and they jaw and then they agree to fight, drop the gloves and then go for it. Yeah, don't see that in baseball, but was it? It was? Uh, presents Keith that that? Um, yeah, that was a good fight, too.

Also, did you see the body shot I landed? I thought this was going to be a longer fight. He did land a good body shot. And you could just say Jose Ramirez, like, he just was swinging wild, he did connect, but yeah, he, it was a lucky shot.

I mean, it was all wildly, but he knocked him out. Yeah, no, he knocked him out. And the radio. Tim Anderson looks like a fool.

I'm just trying to play Devil's advocate of, like, if you're Tim Anderson, what would you do? I'd wait for the cart, I'd say a trip.

I'd I'd tweet out a clip of I tripped over his fist, tweet out a clip of the.

Kidney shot and be like, I was just working the body like I thought this was going to go a few rounds.

You should have stopped the fight, right? It was an early stoppage, right?

I they didn't give me a standing 10 count.

I was messed up. Uh, yeah, I, I loved the the announcer. When he was doing the play by play of the actual store was a stolen base sliding in a second, and then he just seamlessly transitioned. So, like, now, now he's calling a boxing fight, but now he goes Anderson down, goes in.

Oh, you're talking about the radio call? Yeah, it's incredible, but Eddie did a great job too, where he was just like, all right. And now they're squaring up.

I love that. It's it's every sports announcers dream to call an actual boxing match, and they just wish they they. You got to stay ready for that moment when it presents itself.

But it was. It's very rare that you see a guy get a clean shot in baseball and two guys square up. Tim Anderson also tough that he's having, like the worst year possible, his one home run.

That's worse than having no home runs, and having one is it makes it stand out so much worse.

I don't know what ended up happening, I didn't follow up. But uh, poor White Sox fans. Eli Jimenez like walking off, hobbling. He gets injured in a fight that he's not even in. It's just a perfect encapsulation of his career.

I would like to blame some of Tim Anderson's teammates for that, too. Because if you're going to hold somebody back, hold them back, right? You were just kind of holding them up and letting him swing on your teammate. You did a half-assed job of protecting your guy, yeah.

I don't. I think maybe if he was playing better, they would have been a little bit more defensive of them. Yeah, and then Tim Anderson had a ton of tweets from like 10 years ago being like, Try me, I'll knock you out.

Didn't he delete some of them?

He might've.

I think he went back.

He was so concussed, he's like, Yeah, this will work, I'll just delete them. Yeah, no one will ever know that they were there.

Yeah, it was bad, bad look for Tim, yeah.

Uh, okay, another bad look. U s women's soccer team out stunk Matt Megan Rapinoe smiling as she missed, she said that she, she was smiling.

She said she was smiling cause it was the universe playing a sick joke on her. Yeah, well, she bogeyed it, she missed it.

So I woke up right as she was missing, or right as Sweden was hitting the uh, goal. That shouldn't have counted, because if you save it, it shouldn't count that it bounces.

And I don't know how much time you have. I think it's like the natural momentum of the ball. So even if you knock it out like six feet and it's got backspin and rolls in, I think that counts as a goal.

It should just be some contact. Someone should have walked on and been like, Hey, Sweden, do you want this to be the highlight of the time you beat us? Because it's not really a highlight? Cause if you watch it, you're like, Wait, he, she saved it.

Yeah, and the ball crossed over by like a millimeter, it's crazy. It was like one centimeter.

We don't have that on goal line technology, yeah.

I think that was the first time that they did it for for like, a penalty kick situation in the World Cup. Where it's like, Okay, we can go to the camera and use that and see, okay, it's. It was seriously like a millimeter over, but we didn't deserve to win, we don't deserve to win that way. Our team sucked this year. Carly Lloyd was right, she was very, Lloyd was very right.

Yes, um, and then the other things I had. I had a couple of questions for Max, Max is your your? Uh, Mike work, Mike works.

Um, yeah.

Explain the whole thing.

Good sports town, Hank, you're going to like this, good Sports Town, great player, yeah.

Oh, okay.

I So what happened on Friday night? Did we win the World Baseball Classic? So we did not? What place? Second? Oh, oh so, yeah, no trip, but he played well, so that's good.

Now is this a heartfelt standing ovation or a sarcastic standing?

I think it now, it's heartfelt.

I was so confused watching Philadelphia give a standing ovation to a 300 million dollar guy who has been playing bad. I thought I had missed the Trey Turner, like, had cancer and beat cancer and came back. No, that's how confused I was.

No, that's just a good, that's just a good ball, ball town, right?

You think, so, yeah, so much so that your franchise player Joel Embiid tweeted, Lol as it was happening.

Yeah, well, he was probably salty because he gets booed, right? Baseball and basketball are different sports.

We were talking about basketball.

Yeah, well, I can't speak to basketball, you just lump basketball in with football. But baseball is such a confidence game. Like you need your confidence to to, to, like, know that you're good enough to play.

They were applauding because he sucked.

No, no, they're just saying like, you're, you're good, you got this. That's what Philly fans do. everyone knows that's what Philly fans do.

Philly fans are always, always got their good sports down.

So cheer for a player who is having an all time bad year, Boo in baseball, Boo a player in basketball who's stinking and boo Santa Claus. Uh, yeah. Also, I haven't watched a lot of the Phillies this week because it's been a busy, busy week. And I just saw clips of it yesterday because I was moving and I was so confused.

Now, do you think that this is Philly getting soft?

Uh, no, that I'm telling you, this is Philly. No one ball. Okay, booing, we're a booing town and basically all of our, all of our boos are strategic. To to. To motivate the player because you want to motivate the player. To get them, get them down into the depths that they need to be to be successful. But baseball doesn't work that way, so that's just like us being a very smart sports down and knowing that.

Now you have to, as Philly start cheering everyone you set the.

Precedent Baseball Baseball No, this is a precedent.

If you're doing poorly, you need to be cheered in baseball.

Correct. So do you start booing him now that he's good? Uh, how pissed? Do you think? he's super confident, right?

No, it's all about how pissed you think Alec Bomb is like, why the?

Fuck, didn't they do this for me? So, so. He's also been very good this year, so now that he got booed, well, he was. He was bad when he was getting.

Confused?

Now that Trey Turner's playing really well, he's super confident, right? So now he's got you. You can poke that dog. It has four at bats, yeah.

Baseball contracts when the when, when a guy signs a huge, huge deal sucks right out of the gate. You're like, uh, start counting down the year, like, wait, eight more years of this.

Also, all of this was based off of, like, a couple articles I've read, because I haven't seen much of the Phillies.

Okay, yeah, I want to know who's leading the charge.

Who's who's the apex Philly fan? It's booed who gets cheered. Uh, that's a good question. I know there's a couple of WIP callers.

And that brings me to my next question Howard Eskin, What's up with him?

Yeah, that was the weirdest tweet of all time.

Howard Eskin, Uh, Philly, uh, radio legend, uh tweeted out on Saturday morning, Ready to roll this morning with my show Sports Radio WIP. Trey Turner and Phillies Eagles expectations. Players that hung around too long.

Oh, wow.

Yeah.

Okay.

So I bonked him and then he was like, Hey guys, that's my daughter, so I still don't know why he just made his daughter to promote his.

Show his radio show.

He just accidentally put it as a tweet, but then he was doing a victory lap, being like, Yeah, everyone was talking about it all day.

So one thing I love about Howard Eskin on Twitter is he is the quintessential old guy. On Twitter. That somebody told him like, Hey, you should sign up for this, use it to promote your takes, et cetera, et cetera, and he still has no idea how to use Twitter. Yeah, he gets everything wrong. I love him.

He, he, he, DMe said, Big cat, don't believe you've ever met, but respect back, and I sent him the jeter little kid. Respect, I don't know.

Nah, it's just that's just another day.

That was just another day.

That's just another day in the city of brotherly love.

Uh, okay, other things. Bryson DeChambeau is awesome.

Yeah, no comment. 58. No comment on Bryson.

Did you watch it?

Uh, I watched the highlights on Instagram. Hank, when when we played golf the other week, what did you shoot for nine holes?

That's pretty sick.

That's wild. You lapped you, you got lapped 55..

And then Nate Diaz and Jake Paul fought.

Yeah, they did. Uh, I actually think Nate Diaz won this fight because Nate Diaz, he's getting into a fight with an internet troll, right? And he somehow managed to become the king troll in that match.

Um, but yeah, I think Paul also said that he's going to be world champion 20 26 of what boxing.

Okay.

Yep.

All right, I like his confidence.

Would you ever rough and rowdy belt ready to go? He can compete for that. I, I did, an all time old man starting to get old, you know, started with the Josh Allen getting us room 40..

If boxing as a sport was a hundred rounds, Nate Diaz would be the best fighter of all time. He would never get knocked out, he would just outlast you up. Hank had an all time take when we were watching this. This is great.

So wrong.

In a boxing match, you said it like, 20 times. We are having a couple of drinks. I was making some jokes. Obviously, I don't think I could beat Amanda Serrano.

I was you were, you were standing up.

If he was like, I can't believe you think this, I was like, Yeah, dude, I take her out. No, no, no. He was standing up and demonstrating that's an all time bad.

It was like, No, I do that. You pretty much described every single workout I've ever had. I just walked out and then I'm like, Oh, I'm feeling good. Let me just get this incline down and the speed up, and then about a minute in, I start holding the sides.

Someone was telling me about twelve, three, thirty twelve incline. I grow up. Yeah, I'm going to say that, yeah, twelve, twelve incline, three speed, 30 minutes.

Yeah, Max and I are about to be in the best shapes.

I'm going on a hard diet starting Monday.

I want to be, I want to be weight pals with Max, where we text each other the weight every day, but he doesn't have a scale.

Yeah, that's smart, we can. It's not about the number max, it's about how you feel in your own body.

I've done the math, I have 18 months before I'm 40, so I'm going to lose three pounds a month for the next 18 months.

Every single grit week we get back and we usually eat like shit on the road, we get back and we're like, OK.

Football's back, all right, let's do Who's Back the week? And then we have Von Miller. Great interview with Von Miller, No joke.

Hank My who's back of the week is a young Carlos Stanton.

Yeah, that was great. Oh man, to this role.

He was playing in a game, he was on second base, guy had a single into center field and he got waved home. I mean, we're talking about stamina and speed. Like, it's not. If it's a hot take for me to say I could be a man of Serrano in a fight, which maybe it is.

He decided that he was out before the ball was even thrown from the outfield. He just. I've never seen anything like it.

Well, if you're, if you're giving up on your season, why are you going to sprint? Risk injury like who cares?

He got, like, slower with every single step.

He was just like, Fuck this, yeah, I don't want to play anymore.

He basically looked like he was playing in like a Beer League softball game and made the decision. I'm not going to slide, I don't want to like, I don't want to hurt my legs.

Little league coaches across America are just furious watching this. Yeah, bad example for the youngsters out there.

Little League World Series coming up? Yep, Bosco's just going after everyone.

Yeah, he's trying to go.

Have you greenlit it? Yeah, OK, see, sweet hank, there we go.

Back of the week is free speech. Oh, free speech is back. Finally, we're saying everything again. Elon Musk has good news. He is going to bankroll any lawsuit for anyone who is adversely impacted at their job or fired because of things that they put out on Twitter.

Hank, The first thing I thought of is Hank. All the times we've shamed him for liking a vacation tweet. Yeah, we are going to be in a lot of legal trouble if Hank ever decides to fill out some paperwork.

Yeah, I mean, I have a lot. I could fill out a scroll, like a a 300 foot scroll of offenses.

Wait, fucking a man, though, that was you just wanted to fuck a man?

No.

How would you prove that, pretend we're Elon Musk right now?

I tweeted a tweet on a Friday night, not during work hours, and then I got shamed for it. Roasted social media clips made.

But what was what? did the tweets say?

Fucking a man.

No, no tweets.

Fucking a man, was there a comment? there? did I say comma and that's OK, so that's fucking a man.

Yeah, you said, fucking a man.

Fucking a man.

How would anyone read it?

How is how is Elon like? how? how is this going to work?

I don't know.

I think he just likes to say shit and then never does it. Yeah, I mean, he's smart.

It is, I mean, we do that all the time.

He basically bought, he bought Twitter because he wanted people to like, he wanted his girlfriend to come back to him. Yeah, like, he's. That's why he got himself into this mess in the first place was just he wanted to be cool online.

And it was pre-launch.

I was thinking of the most out of pocket tweets of all time earlier. Do you guys remember the Richard Mendenhall tweet when we when we killed Bin Laden? Oh yeah, he tweeted out. What kind of person celebrates death?

Jeez, that was a hell of a take.

That was a hell of a take. He's just both sides 9-11..

What about that chick who went to South Africa had Justine?

Justine landed, Yeah.

She's got a case.

Yeah, I think she works for a competitor, doesn't she? I don't know. I think she does. Oh, good for her. yeah, good for her.

Yeah, she's got a what, what are you guys laughing about?

Cassiano's just hit a home run as PFT was talking about 9-11.

Oh, that's perfect. He's back. Also. Matt Olsen just hit a home run. Matt Olsen's coming on the show on Wednesday. I'll say it right now.

We got really deep into, like baseball strategy, yeah, we talked a lot of ball.

Great, great dude. OK, my who's back the week is Adam Schein. I hope you guys saw this, but Adam Schein, what does he work? CBS, CBS.

He's got receipts.

I mean, that is an all time smug journalist. Be like, Oh, yeah, you're telling me I'm bad. Well, remember the time I voted you all pro?

Yeah, so then that's a complete own on you.

I can't imagine tweeting that you play this football league, but who really gives you all the accolades?

Me, I do. I do love being the first to a take like that. He's just like planting his flag. Jordan love stinks.

Yeah, it also just reminded me how great our job is because we can just fly. Takes off all the time and just be like, Yeah, well, that's the show. Yeah, and then and then a guy like Adam Schein gets in front of a camera and does, like, a minute, like, rant about Jordan, love sucking and people get very upset.

He's been, yeah, he hasn't been even like one percent as wrong as we've been about most things that we talk about.

Yeah, although the Packers did, they, I don't think they televised Family night because they're worried they're trying to coddle Jordan Love. That's what I heard.

I'm looking at his glasses right now. They might be a dollar. Yeah, they might be a dollar.

Glasses are cool. Not true. Sorry, that's just not true.

We got to bring back four eyes as a yeah, nice, take four eyes.

Dude, you're a dork, like, that's just a fact, you're a dork. And you got to expect when you put a takeout like that that NFL players can be like, Listen, Dork, if I could, I would give you a wedgie, right? yeah?

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OK, we now welcome on a very special guest, recurring guest. It's been a little too long. Good to have you back. It is Vaughn Miller, Super Bowl champion, future Hall of Famer. Does that sound good?

I mean, I think three Super Bowl champion or four Super Bowl champion sounds a little bit better. Yeah, yeah, all of this stuff is good, man.

Yeah, and let's start, though, with How are you feeling?

I'm feeling good, I'm in a great spot. I thought I would be like in a in a position to be able to practice with the guys or at least do like individual, but wasn't quite there yet. But I'm super close, you know, the body is going to do what it's going to do.

That's an important thing to remember because as fans.

I mean, my first one, I came back in seven, but I was 24 years old, right? twenty twenty three, twenty four years old. I mean, at 34 years old, it's a little bit different. And we got a stacked team.

Yeah, are you taking mental reps?

I'm, I'm so active, you can ask Jordan, man, I'm so active in the meeting room, at practice.

It's a dumb question for me, but everybody else is probably wondering.

But I take it, man, I don't. I don't mind asking the dumb questions, but you know, half of them would be for me, and the other half would be for everybody else too.

That's kind of the motto of our podcast, Yeah, ask a lot of dumb questions.

Yeah, like, PFT was wondering if you're still farting in meeting rooms and you should get a fart, fine.

So I actually been a whole lot better, like I did like this, I didn't like this, I didn't like this. Blood diet, right?

And you just walked in the room eating.

That's that's why I was crazy. I mean, that's, that's. It's just a little cheese on there.

So yeah, yeah, forty five farts a day.

That's that's work. Yeah, eggs was. eggs was like the big one, so as soon as I took that off for, like, my diet like, things changed.

Yeah, yeah, I think last time you were on the show, we were talking about your chickens, too, you still got your chickens.

Yeah, greener pastures, chicken. It's in Elgin, Texas, got about 60 acres, it's it's doing pretty well.

Yeah, so you were saying that you had some chickens named after Peyton Manning last time? some of your Broncos teammates? Do you have any bills chickens?

Oh no, them chickens, they long gone. that was like eight years ago, they long gone, they long gone.

But you also just kind of undercut yourself a little bit because you said the eggs make you fart and you got a chicken farm. That's bad marketing.

I mean, as far as like, you know, you got, you got two different types of operations. You got the layers that they lay eggs all day, and you got the broilers. Those are the ones that you, that you eat. I'm mainly involved in the broiler side of the meat production side of it.

This past year, I feel like there was a lot of talk about Texas A&M being a cult. Yeah, when you see those clips, are you like, Oh, they're finding out more and more about us these days. And I got to take my ring off and maybe chill out for a second.

No, no, I mean, Texas A&M we have. We have real traditions that are over 100 years old, and the great thing about colossation is everybody buys into every single tradition, whether that's a cult, you're explaining a cult.

They all drink the kool-aid.

Light stuff on fire and they wear all white. Yeah, that sounds great, that sounds great.

No, I mean, they really buy into, like, the school spirit there, man. And I've been to a lot of colleges, you know, after I visited Texas A&M, and there's, there's really nothing like it.

Yeah, I mean, college football as goofy as it seems like it is about tradition, so don't apologize for tradition.

I mean, I love it, I mean, you could call it a cult. I can see how it comes across as that, but I love Texas A&M. I bleed maroon and white.

Yeah, well, you know, not a cult, you got to get a tattoo.

I like the Super Bowl tattoo on your thigh that one's sick.

Do you only have one, or do you have a second one?

I haven't got a second one yet, but I'm going to get it, I'm going to get it. Run out of space. I just got like, you know, I've been doing this for 18 years.

You know, it'd be sick if every time you won a Super Bowl, you get the Lombardi tattoo on your eye.

That'd be dope.

Like a teardrop.

I have four Lombardis under my eye.

Yeah, did the second one. Was it as meaningful as the first one?

Yeah, it was, you know, they're two totally different experiences, but they're both special to me. They're kind of like, you know, my kids. Like, I got two sons and I love them both the same, but they're two totally, you know, different beings. And that was the same with the Super Bowl in L..A.

So talking about that Rams Super Bowl run, are there moments, even as a professional athlete, where you're like, Well, that was really lucky, we needed that luck. I'm mostly thinking about the 49ers dropped interception in the NFC Championship game. Do you guys like afterwards, like, Well, that was like.

You need luck 100 percent, especially in football. It's not like basketball where you get seven games to really decide a winner, you get one hour.

Yeah.

Either you own or you not. If you go back to the 2015 Super Bowl, when we played the Carolina Panthers. Like, if we play those guys 10 times, I don't see us beating those guys, we probably beat those guys twice. They had one of the most amazing offenses and amazing teams in NFL history, Cam Newton MVP and Luke Keegly on defense. So we were able to just scratch one out and win that one.

Yeah, do you ever feel like you're in the zone when you're pass rushing? Like every single thing that you're breaking out is going to work? It's a fake spin move, it's, you know, speed, power, it's all clicking.

Yeah, I mean, right, when I'm driving up to the stadium. It's just like this transition from the jokester Von and the playful Von to the quiet Von. Focusing on the next play that the offense does. Like, I barely even talk to my teammates, like you can ask Jordan, like I barely even talk to my teammates. They got a pacifier mouthpiece. And it's just like, I'm just big eyes and I'm just, I'm really just focusing on making a play for my team.

So speaking of your pass rushing the ghost move, you've perfected it. It's the coolest thing to watch. People don't know it. Von basically waits for the offensive lineman.

I think, you know, the ghost move is, it's definitely. It's a cool move to watch, you know, not only me but all the guys that are able to do it. It's a cool move to watch. Because you dip the guy and you have to stay on balance. But out of 123 and a half sacks that I have, I probably got four of them. Four sacks out of that are ghost moves and everybody just highlights those sacks.

Have you double ghosted anyone before?

I have I've ghosted a tight end and ghosted the and then chipped and ghosted a guy, and the lineman came out and ghosted a guy too. So it wasn't on purpose, it was just like, that's all I had to do, yeah.

Have you ever done a fake ghost one way and then ghost back the other way?

No, that's a lot.

That would be a.

That's a lot.

Maybe that's the next one.

That's a lot because you got to get a great jump, so all of my momentum is going forward. And then I show a ghost, and I probably had to spin back around and then Ghost, Yeah, that's a lot. You only get 2.2 seconds to get to the quarterback.

The fake ghost would be an awesome move if you could pull it off. That's the next level.

I just like getting my job done. I don't want guys to see this and be like, Well, you said you wanted to sack him. Because everybody has pride in this league and I don't want to amp none of these guys up.

You can say Phillip Rivers.

Yeah, yeah, I mean, Phillip, he did help out my career a lot.

He loves shit talking, too, right? but he doesn't cuss.

Yeah, he doesn't, but he never really did that to me. That's crazy. I sacked him 17 times. Yeah, you know.

He never really did it.

Actually, after Phillip Rivers retired, we became super close man. I spent time with him in Mississippi at the Senior Bowl, it was like the Senior Bowl Hall of Fame. And I've seen him at the Pro Bowl and stuff, and I've been able to give him his flowers.

So you were talking about Plan A, Plan B. You've also talked about potentially being a GM for an NFL team.

I wasn't lying.

Still think he can be a GM?

I wasn't lying about none of those guys, I mean, Drew Locke, I mean, he was a rock star.

He is a rock star and Mitch Trubisky is special. I love him.

He is special, I mean, I didn't say the guy's the best quarterback in the league.

Yeah, true, that's smart.

Better than Patrick Mahomes or anything like that. I feel like, with the right coach and the right quarterback, that's the trick. You've got to really find the right coach, the right quarterback and really build the infrastructure of the team. Not only the coaches, but the cafeteria workers and the janitors and the front office people. And I really have a I feel like I have.

It's great to have a good janitor.

Yeah, true.

Yeah, I mean, always I was going to be able to get a quarterback. It's hard to find a Josh Allen, it's hard to find a Patrick Mahomes, but you still got to be able to put a competitive product on the field.

Didn't you say that Drew Locke had the most impressive incomplete pass that you've ever seen in practice one time?

Yeah, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did.

So do you think you really want to pursue this? Because that's a lot of work? And I always, I'm always curious about a guy like you who has done such great things. Future Hall of Famer made a ton of money. You then want to go back and grind and be in the office all the time.

I mean, it's just the perspective that you have on it. Like, I really enjoy, like evaluating talent. I really enjoy putting the right coach with the right player, creating a, I think I would really enjoy, you know, creating a team like the Buffalo Bills have.

So so, evaluate this talent.

It's a it's a lot of them in the league. I think, I think, I think Jalen Phillips for the Miami Dolphins is is a really good pass rusher. I think, you know, just. It's just a matter of time before he blows up, he has all the tools, like he has a great get off.

Yeah, they're comparing him to you.

I mean, that's, that's great, I think he'd be great. I saw some clips and he's really explosive. I think once he like, once you just a matter of time for him. I really like, of course, you know, like Nick Bosa and Joey Bosa and all those guys I like, I like NWASU, like the the The Pass rusher for the Seattle Seahawks.

Oh, he just got drafted.

I think his name was Tyree.

It's weird to say Texas tech defensive player, Yeah.

It's like the first time in 20 years.

Yeah, I mean, he's he, he has all the tools and it's just a matter of time. But then again, like, you know, it's it's you hit and miss as well.

I love, I love Ed Oliver.

Ed Oliver.

Are you and him? You guys ride horses together?

No, we don't, we talk, we talk about horses all the time, though. You got to remember when Ed Oliver was in college, he, he was, he was on the Heisman watch, yeah.

You got his coat taken away from him, though.

He's considered like, he's considered like, he's considered like one of the like, the best, the best defensive player. That that whole year. Ed Oliver is great. It's just a matter of time for Ed Oliver and Greg Rousseau. I didn't want to like, you know, of course, I'm around these guys all day, but those two guys I had to talk about those guys as well.