"Natalie Portman"

2024-02-19 00:46:59

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3Speaker 3
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It's good to be here, where, um, I have nothing. It turned out. I thought that I had an open.

1Speaker 1
00:11.56 – 00:13.08

Will thought he had a nice-.

3Speaker 3
00:13.10 – 00:15.76

Well, let's weigh in, but this is it, though, but this is it.

1Speaker 1
00:16.00 – 00:16.54

Yeah, this is it.

3Speaker 3
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Welcome to the process.

1Speaker 1
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We're podcasting right now. We've got absolutely nothing.

3Speaker 3
00:21.36 – 00:25.26

By the way, this is what we've got. We've got Bennett and Rob and Michael. Everybody say hi.

1Speaker 1
00:25.70 – 00:26.10

Hi.

3Speaker 3
00:26.80 – 00:29.04

Yeah. We've got the whole, all of us.

4Speaker 4
00:29.04 – 00:30.26

Like a party in your ears.

1Speaker 1
00:30.28 – 00:35.56

And we're trying to think of a way to start the show here. before we get into the funny music. Let's take some calls.

3Speaker 3
00:35.76 – 00:39.04

Is that right? Let's take some calls. Yeah. Something to feel, some suggestions.

1Speaker 1
00:39.48 – 00:46.76

Let's pick up that line from Des Moines. Uh, that's on line three. Uh, caller, welcome to Smartless. Uh, what's your question?

4Speaker 4
00:47.06 – 00:49.08

Uh, I just want to know how old you guys are.

1Speaker 1
00:49.52 – 00:50.50

Okay. I am-.

3Speaker 3
00:50.50 – 00:51.82

Why don't you go fuck yourself?

1Speaker 1
00:52.16 – 01:00.70

Okay. We lost that caller. Um, we're picking up, oh, from, uh, Denton, Texas, on line five. Good morning.

4Speaker 4
01:00.88 – 01:03.56

Good morning. I love it when you talk about food.

1Speaker 1
01:04.10 – 01:04.74

Yes.

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Welcome to Smartless. Smart. Less.

3Speaker 3
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Smart.

2Speaker 2
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Less.

3Speaker 3
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Smart.

2Speaker 2
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Less. Smart.

1Speaker 1
01:25.86 – 01:31.82

Hi, guys. Hi. I think that this, is this our first, um, chat and giggle of 2024?.

3Speaker 3
01:32.28 – 01:34.28

Well, we don't want to date the episode, but yes.

1Speaker 1
01:34.82 – 01:44.44

Well, but, I mean, for us personally, we won't, the listener don't listen to this part, but I think, hey, Sean Will, this is our first of the year, isn't it?

4Speaker 4
01:44.66 – 01:47.42

Yeah. Yeah. It's nice. Yeah. Happy New Year, guys.

1Speaker 1
01:47.80 – 01:49.42

Oh, happy New Year. You guys look a full year older.

3Speaker 3
01:49.76 – 01:50.24

Wait, what?

1Speaker 1
01:50.80 – 01:54.30

Nothing. Nothing? Um, what did you guys do?

3Speaker 3
01:55.18 – 01:56.80

How was your new year?

1Speaker 1
01:59.02 – 02:05.00

Will took a lesson in, um, uh, uh, social, socialism. No. Socializing?

3Speaker 3
02:05.08 – 02:10.46

No, socialization. How have you been enjoying your personal life?

1Speaker 1
02:11.12 – 02:12.20

Shawnee, do you feel rested?

4Speaker 4
02:12.92 – 02:16.60

I'm just getting sick, I think, unless it's allergies. I don't know.

1Speaker 1
02:16.60 – 02:18.28

Oh, it could be COVID. COVID's flying by.

4Speaker 4
02:18.54 – 02:20.38

No, I tested. I tested. I don't know. I don't have it.

1Speaker 1
02:20.52 – 02:21.64

You had it before, right?

4Speaker 4
02:22.04 – 02:24.08

I had it the first time ever a year ago. Yeah.

3Speaker 3
02:24.18 – 02:24.76

Yeah, I remember that.

1Speaker 1
02:24.78 – 02:26.12

And, Willie, you still haven't had it, right?

3Speaker 3
02:26.26 – 02:30.58

No, I stopped. I've never tested for it. I've never taken a test. Are you serious? No.

02:30.92 – 02:40.02

Fine. What do you mean, am I serious? Of course, I've taken a million tests. No, I've never tested positive. I've been, I've had the flu, uh, but I've never tested positive, but I'm, I'm like, remember the summer.

02:40.02 – 02:41.42

we thought that maybe I had it?

4Speaker 4
02:42.34 – 02:43.14

Uh. Yes.

3Speaker 3
02:43.72 – 02:46.94

When you guys were out in, uh, Long Island, JB.

1Speaker 1
02:46.94 – 03:04.16

I love Long Island. Wait, who was I just talking to? Somebody at the Globes the other night who has got a fancy house out in the Hamptons pretty close to yours. And they're like, oh boy. Every time I hear Annette call it Long Island, trying to keep it real.

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Listen, Will, just admit it. You're doing real well. You've got, you've got a, a, a, a big ass summer house. You got six cars. You've got a bunch of stuff.

03:15.80 – 03:20.06

You got a bunch of gold bonds down in the Seychelles.

4Speaker 4
03:20.30 – 03:21.92

You got six bicycles. Did I tell you this?

3Speaker 3
03:22.06 – 03:30.24

I think so. Last summer, December 4th, I was pulling into the Sag Harbor and I was in my, uh, GMC, uh, pickup. It says Sierra, AT4X, by the way.

1Speaker 1
03:30.44 – 03:36.02

Okay. Well, by the way, yeah. Don't drop down. Don't drop down. And you're trying to keep it, and you're trying to keep it real by saying you're driving a pickup truck.

03:36.08 – 03:39.84

But let's be clear. It was a freebie, because you are the voice of GMC.

3Speaker 3
03:39.88 – 03:56.78

Well, it's been over 20, it's been over 25 years. It's been over 25 years that I've been the voice of GMC trucks. Featuring the GMC Sierra with the six functional tailgate. So, so anyway, this guy goes, comes up to me as I'm putting Danny in his car seat and goes, oh, you really do have a GMC. And I go, what man?

03:56.86 – 03:57.92

I don't, I don't know the guy.

1Speaker 1
03:58.26 – 03:58.92

Total stranger.

3Speaker 3
04:00.14 – 04:05.20

It was pretty absurd. But, uh, uh, Jason, wait, Sean. So you think that you're getting sick?

4Speaker 4
04:05.56 – 04:07.76

I do. Well, I had an endoscopy yesterday.

1Speaker 1
04:08.26 – 04:09.12

What is that?

3Speaker 3
04:09.40 – 04:10.90

Is that you had a colonoscopy yesterday?

4Speaker 4
04:11.04 – 04:11.58

No endoscopy.

1Speaker 1
04:12.48 – 04:13.82

Is that above the belt or below the belt?

4Speaker 4
04:13.94 – 04:18.44

That's above the belt. So I don't know if my throat is sore because there's something shoved down it. Well, of course.

1Speaker 1
04:19.00 – 04:22.14

Careful, careful with the jokes. right now. It's very early in the show.

3Speaker 3
04:22.60 – 04:29.84

No, Sean's talking about going to a place where he paid money to have somebody stick something down his throat. And then he got an endoscopy.

4Speaker 4
04:30.84 – 04:33.08

By the way, I can't even believe I walked right in.

1Speaker 1
04:33.44 – 04:35.56

You sure did. Hey, so what did...

3Speaker 3
04:35.56 – 04:36.32

That's what he said.

1Speaker 1
04:37.90 – 04:41.18

What did this fella tell you, uh, was the problem?

3Speaker 3
04:41.24 – 04:43.98

And he claimed he was a doctor. Did you check his credentials, by the way?

4Speaker 4
04:43.98 – 04:47.12

By the way, he's the best doctor in the world, Dr. Trazon at Cedars.

3Speaker 3
04:47.40 – 04:48.20

Oh, here we go.

4Speaker 4
04:48.48 – 04:51.76

And wait, and Jay's gonna love this. I had my... Oh, where's my Invisalign?

1Speaker 1
04:52.52 – 04:53.72

Oh, let's wait for your Invisalign.

3Speaker 3
04:53.94 – 04:55.86

Funny, it's hard to find the Invisalign.

4Speaker 4
04:56.54 – 04:58.26

I had it on. I forgot to put it on.

1Speaker 1
04:58.34 – 05:01.40

You should just paint a stripe on it, so you stop losing it.

3Speaker 3
05:01.40 – 05:02.00

That's a not a bad idea.

1Speaker 1
05:02.00 – 05:04.78

Don't put in your Invisalign for the podcast thing.

4Speaker 4
05:04.78 – 05:08.86

No, I have to. I have to keep it wearing. No, you don't. No, I do. I have to keep it on.

3Speaker 3
05:08.96 – 05:11.24

He's gotta wear it all the time. It's gotta do the same thing.

4Speaker 4
05:11.24 – 05:17.86

Anyway, so his name is Dr. Trazon. And I said... He goes, do you have anything, like, metal in you? Do you have anything, blah, blah, blah?

05:18.30 – 05:24.94

You all good? I said, no, I just have my plastic, you know, teeth lining thing. I guess... I go, I guess you could say I have my Trazon.

1Speaker 1
05:25.88 – 05:26.82

Oh, my God.

3Speaker 3
05:26.88 – 05:27.88

Yeah, that's really good. That's really good.

1Speaker 1
05:27.88 – 05:28.84

Did he think you were flirting?

4Speaker 4
05:29.94 – 05:37.76

No, no, no, no. No, but he was so sick of me making jokes. I just made bad joke after bad joke. And I was sitting there. Have you had an endoscopy with the thing down your throat?

3Speaker 3
05:37.88 – 05:40.04

Yeah. I did it at the same time that I got my colonoscopy.

4Speaker 4
05:40.04 – 05:41.88

Yeah, so they put you, like...

3Speaker 3
05:41.88 – 05:44.50

I did. Yeah, you did. They used the same tool. They used the same tool.

4Speaker 4
05:45.08 – 05:45.22

Yeah.

1Speaker 1
05:46.08 – 05:48.36

Are they offering a twofer right now?

3Speaker 3
05:48.88 – 05:51.02

It's the best time to do it. You're already out.

1Speaker 1
05:51.30 – 05:56.00

It's the... Yeah, that's right. The devil lies in the sequencing. You'd really want to do the endoscopy first. Sure.

05:56.02 – 05:56.54

Is that correct?

3Speaker 3
05:56.70 – 05:59.08

I guess. Something. I mean, I don't think it...

4Speaker 4
05:59.08 – 06:08.08

But I... So I had this thing. They make you bite down on this thing on your mouth to keep your mouth open, right? Sure. And so they can stick the camera down there.

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And so I'm sitting on my side with pillows in a gown with this thing on. And I said, bad joke after bad joke. I go, I haven't been like this since college or something like that. And he goes way in the back of the room. He goes, yeah, we're probably going to want to stop talking for a little bit.

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Yeah.

1Speaker 1
06:24.46 – 06:25.74

He's had it with you.

4Speaker 4
06:25.84 – 06:27.62

He's totally had it. He's the best doctor.

3Speaker 3
06:27.62 – 06:30.96

He's going to get that propofol. He's like, double the propofol. Let's get this guy under.

4Speaker 4
06:31.76 – 06:32.80

The best stuff, man. How good is that?

3Speaker 3
06:32.90 – 06:35.58

How great is that when you wake up from that propofol?

4Speaker 4
06:35.58 – 06:36.16

Oh, my God.

1Speaker 1
06:36.20 – 06:37.26

That little twilight.

3Speaker 3
06:37.26 – 06:40.00

You're just like, I've never felt so good in my life. Yeah.

1Speaker 1
06:40.06 – 06:43.40

I get real chippy. I got a bunch of jokes for the doctor.

3Speaker 3
06:43.50 – 06:43.66

Yeah.

4Speaker 4
06:43.68 – 06:46.22

That's what I'm saying. You just, I can't stop cracking jokes.

3Speaker 3
06:46.22 – 06:55.32

But the thing is, you come out of that thing and you feel light. You haven't eaten for 24 hours. Right. And you feel rested. You've just had a 45 hour long nap.

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To quote somebody, the likes of which have never been seen.

1Speaker 1
06:59.32 – 06:59.76

Oh, boy.

4Speaker 4
07:01.98 – 07:03.16

Oh, God. Okay. Sorry.

1Speaker 1
07:03.28 – 07:07.06

Okay. That's it. 10 minutes of patter. Let's please get to our guest today.

3Speaker 3
07:07.76 – 07:10.38

You fucking wrote down 10 minutes of patter, too.

1Speaker 1
07:10.58 – 07:12.00

No, I just looked up there.

3Speaker 3
07:13.02 – 07:14.58

10 minutes of patter.

1Speaker 1
07:15.36 – 07:21.96

Today we have with us a seasoned. Talk to people. We have a seasoned. We have a seasoned veteran of the industry.

4Speaker 4
07:22.26 – 07:22.40

Oh.

1Speaker 1
07:22.98 – 07:36.24

But she's not old. Uh-oh. She has an Ivy League education with a degree in psychology, but she's never practiced. She is incredibly funny and can light up a room with her smile and her warmth. But she's known as one of our best dramatic actors.

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She's been a major movie star for over 30 years, but it has always been second to her interest in academics and activism. She's got an Academy Award, a couple of Globes, countless nominations. She can even explain the Middle East to you or sell you some perfume. And Sean, she can even swing a lightsaber. Gang.

4Speaker 4
07:53.52 – 07:54.26

Wow. What?

3Speaker 3
07:54.52 – 07:55.22

Uh-oh. Natalie Portman.

2Speaker 2
07:55.64 – 07:56.30

What? Got it.

4Speaker 4
07:56.56 – 07:56.86

No.

1Speaker 1
07:57.00 – 07:59.00

Natalie. I knew it. Good morning.

2Speaker 2
07:59.38 – 08:03.86

I knew it. Hi. Wow. Oh, my God. You guys.

1Speaker 1
08:04.28 – 08:04.52

Yeah?

2Speaker 2
08:04.94 – 08:10.66

Literally, as I revealed myself, I got a thing on my computer that says, low battery.

1Speaker 1
08:11.02 – 08:12.70

You're going back to sleep soon.

2Speaker 2
08:12.88 – 08:13.98

Yeah. One minute.

1Speaker 1
08:14.36 – 08:16.06

Excuse me. One minute. She's grabbing for the cord. Oh, yeah.

4Speaker 4
08:16.10 – 08:16.46

Go, get it.

1Speaker 1
08:17.00 – 08:18.68

All right. So, Sean, here's a little.

3Speaker 3
08:18.88 – 08:19.30

Okay, guys.

1Speaker 1
08:19.40 – 08:29.24

You better watch it on the Star Wars stuff. She doesn't want to talk about Star Wars, okay? Don't say Star Trek. I got a shit for giving you shit with the Adam Driver episode.

3Speaker 3
08:29.24 – 08:29.48

Okay?

1Speaker 1
08:29.70 – 08:32.42

And keep Scotty out of this fucking interview, all right?

3Speaker 3
08:32.54 – 08:36.00

And don't start going, like, Scotty's. got a question for you from down deep. Okay?

1Speaker 1
08:36.10 – 08:36.64

She's putting on her headphones.

3Speaker 3
08:36.64 – 08:37.64

Did the planet Trigulon actually have.

1Speaker 1
08:37.64 – 08:40.14

She's putting on her headphones again. She's tighten up. You're not coming back.

4Speaker 4
08:40.30 – 08:42.32

You're not coming back on tight enough. Hi.

1Speaker 1
08:43.10 – 08:45.32

Look, who's back. Are you all plugged in? Hi.

3Speaker 3
08:45.32 – 08:46.28

We weren't talking about you.

2Speaker 2
08:46.34 – 08:49.06

I'm gonna do a whole move on my way out.

1Speaker 1
08:49.18 – 08:50.48

We're changing the background.

4Speaker 4
08:50.78 – 08:51.62

Oh, it's so pretty.

1Speaker 1
08:51.96 – 08:57.50

Look at that. What we're exposing here is a very nice zoom room. Nice flare. Look at her. She's created in the house.

3Speaker 3
08:57.72 – 08:59.24

Yeah, you got a nice flare going.

1Speaker 1
08:59.92 – 09:01.64

Beautiful flare coming in. Oh, there she goes.

3Speaker 3
09:01.66 – 09:02.18

We lost her.

1Speaker 1
09:02.36 – 09:04.34

And we've lost connection. All right.

3Speaker 3
09:06.18 – 09:09.40

All right. Stand by. Good till there. As Jason would say, good till there.

1Speaker 1
09:11.02 – 09:11.92

That was great.

3Speaker 3
09:12.60 – 09:23.80

Good till there. Every time, by the way, every time we're on the rest of development, they go, and action. And somebody would go up and go, right as we started, Jason would always go, good till there.

1Speaker 1
09:24.22 – 09:24.70

Good till there.

09:27.06 – 09:29.20

Never did it. Robbie, we lost her on. Yeah.

4Speaker 4
09:29.36 – 09:29.68

Yeah.

1Speaker 1
09:29.82 – 09:34.50

That's probably the battery. Just the battery. So it's going to be a second, guys.

3Speaker 3
09:34.56 – 09:36.20

The battery just. Yeah.

1Speaker 1
09:36.28 – 09:41.46

Battery. just. If you want to keep chatting, you can, but we're probably going to need her walk her through tech. So.

09:43.50 – 09:44.06

All right.

4Speaker 4
09:44.08 – 09:44.72

We're back.

1Speaker 1
09:44.96 – 09:45.60

Do you hear us, Natalie?

2Speaker 2
09:46.28 – 09:46.76

I do.

4Speaker 4
09:47.62 – 09:49.02

Oh, we do too.

1Speaker 1
09:49.60 – 09:58.06

One last thing. It sounds a little bit more echoey in this room. Do you mind just pulling the mic a little closer, maybe just a little higher, if you have like some books on the desk to put it on?

2Speaker 2
10:00.20 – 10:03.36

All right. That's that better. I'm really sorry, y'all.

4Speaker 4
10:03.46 – 10:03.68

No, no.

1Speaker 1
10:03.80 – 10:05.38

Oh, no. Zero problem.

3Speaker 3
10:05.60 – 10:08.74

But are we going to title this episode? How dare you, Natalie Portman? Is that true?

10:10.26 – 10:11.20

We're not going to do that.

1Speaker 1
10:11.24 – 10:14.56

We workshopped that while you were gone, Natalie. I just don't think it's sticking.

3Speaker 3
10:15.10 – 10:15.96

We're rolling, guys.

1Speaker 1
10:17.02 – 10:23.20

Not a problem. So. Okay. So we lost you for a second, but it was just like driving over a canyon, and here you're right back. Yeah.

10:23.44 – 10:27.14

Oh, Natalie. Hi, Bateman. Hello there. Good morning.

3Speaker 3
10:27.60 – 10:28.76

Oh, I love. she called him Bateman.

2Speaker 2
10:29.14 – 10:29.44

Yeah.

1Speaker 1
10:29.72 – 10:34.24

Well, you know, we've worked together, so we can do last names. I can even go Herschlag, you know?

3Speaker 3
10:34.68 – 10:36.28

Wow. Good memory.

2Speaker 2
10:36.46 – 10:40.76

We did a movie in which we had the same hairdo.

1Speaker 1
10:41.86 – 10:47.80

Oh, my God. That's right. So this was a family movie called Mr. McGorriam's Wonder Emporium.

2Speaker 2
10:47.86 – 10:48.34

Oh, yes.

1Speaker 1
10:48.48 – 10:51.94

I read that script. Did you really? Yeah. It was a great script. Zach Helm.

10:52.02 – 10:52.44

What a writer.

4Speaker 4
10:52.48 – 10:53.24

It was a good script. Yeah.

1Speaker 1
10:54.58 – 10:59.50

And Dustin Hoffman was in it. We had a great time with him. We were in. Where were we? Vancouver.

11:00.34 – 11:03.18

Toronto. In Toronto. That's the same thing. Right, Will? Vancouver.

3Speaker 3
11:03.40 – 11:06.86

Toronto's kind of the same. First of all, how dare you say Vancouver, Toronto. Same thing.

1Speaker 1
11:07.38 – 11:07.76

Kidding.

3Speaker 3
11:07.78 – 11:12.72

How fucking dare you? Kidding. You're not kidding. The people of Toronto loathe you. Wait.

11:12.98 – 11:14.70

Wait. When did this movie come out? I forget.

1Speaker 1
11:14.70 – 11:17.24

This was, was it 90s or 2000??

2Speaker 2
11:18.62 – 11:22.70

2000,, I want to say six, seven, something like that.

1Speaker 1
11:23.10 – 11:32.96

Boy, it's just, how are you with dates? Arnette's just incredible with it. I swear to you, I have. no, I can't tell the difference between 97 and 07.. Really?

11:32.96 – 11:35.46

I just have no idea what's going on between the two.

2Speaker 2
11:35.94 – 11:41.88

I'm with you. Yeah. This year, I was like, if it was 2014,, I would be like, uh-huh, it's 2014,, yeah.

4Speaker 4
11:42.16 – 11:43.44

Natalie, where are you right now?

2Speaker 2
11:43.98 – 11:45.20

I'm in Los. Angeles.

4Speaker 4
11:45.40 – 11:46.90

Oh, you are? Okay. Very good.

2Speaker 2
11:47.40 – 11:47.74

Yes.

1Speaker 1
11:48.42 – 11:59.16

I didn't, I didn't get to run into you. the other night. We were, we were at the, we were at the Swanky Globes. Yeah. And, um, you were amazing, up on stage with the, what about doing the, the, the, the presenting stuff?

11:59.22 – 12:07.74

How do you, how do you like that? There's always some patter, some little quippy joke you got to do, and it's, oh, it's so, so stressful. Do you, I, I never like it. What about you?

2Speaker 2
12:07.74 – 12:16.58

I was very lucky that they didn't try and make me do anything like funny, quirky. Right. We just kind of said the nominees.

1Speaker 1
12:16.72 – 12:17.08

Yeah, banter stuff.

2Speaker 2
12:17.08 – 12:19.58

Because I get really uncomfortable with that.

4Speaker 4
12:19.78 – 12:26.96

Yeah, that's the best, that's the safest way to go, because some people who try to do something that they don't feel comfortable, it shows, right?

1Speaker 1
12:27.04 – 12:42.74

Yeah, I once had to carry Aziz Ansari out on stage at, at Golden Globes once. That was part of our bit. I don't remember what, what followed that, but I just remember carrying him out and, and like literally smelling my SAG card burning in my back pocket. I just felt like, oh, that's over.

3Speaker 3
12:43.16 – 12:47.40

There it is. What year was that, Jason? Oh, forget it. Moving on. So, so.

12:47.84 – 12:56.82

He doesn't know. He doesn't know. Natalie Portman, my God, it's so great to have you here. That was. I mean, where do we even start with?

1Speaker 1
12:56.96 – 13:01.70

Oh, I've got a series of questions. if you want me to start. Sorry, a lot of things. I've done some prep.

4Speaker 4
13:01.70 – 13:06.84

The last time I saw you, Natalie, I was interviewing as the guest host of the Jimmy Kimmel show.

2Speaker 2
13:07.44 – 13:07.52

Yes.

4Speaker 4
13:07.52 – 13:08.40

And it was super fun.

2Speaker 2
13:08.78 – 13:10.24

That was not so long ago.

4Speaker 4
13:10.50 – 13:11.66

I know. It was like a year ago. Wait, wait.

3Speaker 3
13:11.66 – 13:13.52

So you were the guest and Sean was the host?

4Speaker 4
13:13.84 – 13:14.08

Yeah.

1Speaker 1
13:14.56 – 13:14.92

Come on.

4Speaker 4
13:14.96 – 13:15.36

Yeah.

3Speaker 3
13:15.56 – 13:20.76

And how, how hard was it masking the disappointment that Jimmy wasn't there?

1Speaker 1
13:20.86 – 13:25.28

Yeah. For the entire. Well, she's got skills. She's got, she's got an award to prove it.

2Speaker 2
13:25.40 – 13:28.22

It was a delight. It was, it was wonderful.

4Speaker 4
13:28.48 – 13:35.30

It was for, it was for Thor. And if you remember, Scotty, my husband did some bit with you in the, he was dressed as Thor in the audience. It was great.

1Speaker 1
13:35.38 – 13:36.74

Oh, what a highlight for Natalie.

4Speaker 4
13:37.06 – 13:40.58

Jesus Christ. She was, you were probably like, oh God, I got to do a bit like Thor.

2Speaker 2
13:41.34 – 13:42.88

I think about it often.

4Speaker 4
13:43.10 – 13:43.64

Yeah, yeah. I'm sure.

1Speaker 1
13:44.30 – 13:48.00

Do you remember your questions? Do you remember your questions for her, Sean, at all?

4Speaker 4
13:48.08 – 13:52.42

No, God, I don't. I don't. I was enamored. I'm enamored. I'm such a massive fan.

13:52.70 – 13:56.40

Thank you. Like so many things you've done. She's the goods. But yeah.

2Speaker 2
13:56.40 – 13:59.64

I think you asked me about how I got my muscles. Thor.

4Speaker 4
14:00.10 – 14:00.64

Oh, yeah.

1Speaker 1
14:01.08 – 14:03.92

How did you get your muscles? What was your answer? Tell us. We didn't see the episode.

2Speaker 2
14:04.28 – 14:04.68

CG.

1Speaker 1
14:05.56 – 14:06.24

No, really?

4Speaker 4
14:06.38 – 14:06.86

No, yeah.

1Speaker 1
14:07.64 – 14:14.36

No, I don't buy it. You, you, you trained. Well, didn't you like? I, I worked out, but. You didn't have Thor level.

14:14.50 – 14:14.54

It also helped me.

2Speaker 2
14:14.98 – 14:18.32

Well, they made me 6'4", which is pretty.

4Speaker 4
14:18.58 – 14:19.66

Or, or they made you 6, 6, Thor.

2Speaker 2
14:19.68 – 14:21.74

Great to know that that's possible.

1Speaker 1
14:21.92 – 14:35.72

Yeah. Yes. Now on, that reminds me during my incredible research for this. When you did Black Swan, you went, now, you studied ballet when you were a kid, but when you, you did like six months of training for that, I want to say.

2Speaker 2
14:36.08 – 14:42.36

Yeah. It was actually almost a year of training and yeah, it was really fun.

1Speaker 1
14:42.76 – 14:50.04

Because you had to, or you wanted to, like what, what kind of, what kind of actor are you? Do you love to do the research or do you just like to kind of wing it?

2Speaker 2
14:50.58 – 15:00.10

I think it depends what the research is. I mean, like, I mean, if I'm lucky enough to get to work on something that I want to learn all this stuff.

1Speaker 1
15:00.10 – 15:00.38

Right.

2Speaker 2
15:00.88 – 15:02.24

That's like the most fun.

1Speaker 1
15:02.46 – 15:09.56

Like Jackie, like that was a huge responsibility. You had to study, study, study and make sure you, you got that as accurate as possible. Yeah.

2Speaker 2
15:09.72 – 15:13.44

That's super scary. Have you played real people before?

1Speaker 1
15:13.62 – 15:25.96

No, I'm too much of a coward. I'd say no to all of, I mean, even things that are even close. Although I, in air, I played a real guy, but no one has any tape on him. So I could just kind of do whatever I wanted to do.

3Speaker 3
15:25.96 – 15:28.78

You do a real great impression of your uncle too, right? That nobody knows.

1Speaker 1
15:30.40 – 15:31.20

Including me.

3Speaker 3
15:31.30 – 15:36.86

He doesn't even know who he is. How do you expect him to be another person?

2Speaker 2
15:37.16 – 15:39.92

I feel like we kind of glided over that too quickly.

1Speaker 1
15:41.48 – 15:44.24

His name is John and he's a fantastic man.

3Speaker 3
15:45.84 – 15:56.34

Remember Pete Serafinowicz? It just made me think. Remember Pete Serafinowicz did that thing years ago, where he did 50 impressions in one under a minute, and they were all of fictitious people, which is the best.

4Speaker 4
15:58.92 – 15:59.98

We'll be right back.

2Speaker 2
16:01.84 – 16:06.04

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4Speaker 4
16:06.32 – 16:07.98

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2Speaker 2
16:08.20 – 16:26.10

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16:26.30 – 16:30.10

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4Speaker 4
16:30.32 – 16:33.82

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16:33.92 – 16:38.74

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1Speaker 1
16:38.74 – 16:46.50

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2Speaker 2
16:46.64 – 16:55.70

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1Speaker 1
17:12.04 – 17:15.92

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2Speaker 2
17:15.92 – 17:30.06

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17:30.24 – 17:56.16

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1Speaker 1
17:57.36 – 17:59.74

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2Speaker 2
17:59.82 – 18:36.50

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4Speaker 4
18:36.50 – 18:39.66

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2Speaker 2
18:40.40 – 18:50.42

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1Speaker 1
18:53.54 – 18:55.04

And now, back to the show.

4Speaker 4
18:56.92 – 19:04.58

I want to ask a question about the Globes and the award shows in general. I love your dress on the Golden Globes, by the way. It's beautiful.

19:07.88 – 19:16.84

It's a common question, but do you like the dress-up and all of that as far as Globes? Or would you be like, you know what, I'd do it, but I'd rather be home in my sweats. Or do you enjoy it?

2Speaker 2
19:18.20 – 19:44.98

You know, I used to think it was kind of oppressive. And, like, why do women have to spend all this time in discomfort? And, you know, the men get to, like, roll out of bed and wear something they're warm in and, like, aren't, you know, sucking in their stomachs or whatever. And now, having kids, I feel like it's a pretty, it's pretty fun to, like, have people, like, make you feel good.

1Speaker 1
19:45.34 – 19:46.46

And go glam.

2Speaker 2
19:46.82 – 19:48.94

Go glam after you're just, like...

3Speaker 3
19:48.94 – 19:50.12

I don't think you own sweats.

2Speaker 2
19:50.76 – 20:01.56

I own so many sweats. Do you really? Yeah. And I really kind of only wear them in real life, which has been, we moved to Paris last year, and you really can't wear sweats in Paris.

1Speaker 1
20:01.92 – 20:03.42

You do get kicked out of the country.

3Speaker 3
20:04.00 – 20:04.32

Mm-hmm.

2Speaker 2
20:04.62 – 20:06.88

You just get your visa taken away.

3Speaker 3
20:07.04 – 20:09.06

Wait, wait, wait, wait. Do you live in Paris now?

2Speaker 2
20:09.18 – 20:10.48

I live in Paris. now, yeah.

3Speaker 3
20:10.78 – 20:11.80

Wow. Yeah.

1Speaker 1
20:11.92 – 20:13.98

What a switch.

2Speaker 2
20:14.64 – 20:17.12

Yeah. It's a really different lifestyle.

1Speaker 1
20:17.68 – 20:19.76

Now, how many languages do you know?

2Speaker 2
20:20.50 – 20:32.94

Um, I speak Hebrew and English. Obviously English. And my French is, like, fine. Like, I can do everything I need to do. It's just not grammatically correct or sophisticated in any way.

3Speaker 3
20:33.24 – 20:34.86

That's okay. At least they're not judgy.

1Speaker 1
20:35.28 – 20:38.24

Hey, did you know any of it before you moved there?

2Speaker 2
20:38.96 – 20:40.80

Yeah. I took it in high school, and...

1Speaker 1
20:41.66 – 20:44.66

But, like, how many years? I took it in high school, too, but I can't...

2Speaker 2
20:44.66 – 20:46.32

Yeah, I took it, like, four years.

1Speaker 1
20:46.82 – 20:56.26

Well, that's good. Yeah. You didn't do it like I did, where you take French I and French II twice. Because the first time you took them, it didn't count towards your credits. And then I was like, oh, you know what?

20:56.30 – 21:00.24

Now that it's credits, I'll just take the two years that I already know, so that my class is easy.

2Speaker 2
21:01.04 – 21:01.40

That's...

1Speaker 1
21:01.40 – 21:02.04

A dumb guy.

2Speaker 2
21:02.14 – 21:02.76

That's smart.

4Speaker 4
21:03.02 – 21:03.24

Yeah.

3Speaker 3
21:03.38 – 21:08.42

It's a complicated language. Um, it is. Why, uh...

1Speaker 1
21:08.42 – 21:10.46

Oh, Willie, you know it. You know it fluently, don't you?

3Speaker 3
21:10.68 – 21:15.66

I do speak a lot of French, yeah. But, uh, I don't want to... Listen, I'm not... It's not here...

4Speaker 4
21:15.66 – 21:18.56

Ask her a question in French. Ask her a question in French.

3Speaker 3
21:18.78 – 21:19.44

No, no, no.

1Speaker 1
21:20.20 – 21:22.00

Yeah, I want to hear that. Let's hear it.

3Speaker 3
21:22.54 – 21:24.64

Alors, vous habitez où à Paris?

2Speaker 2
21:25.28 – 21:27.48

Oh, j'habite au 7e.

3Speaker 3
21:27.78 – 21:31.12

Ah, d'accord. She lives in the 7e. Arrondissement, oui.

1Speaker 1
21:32.00 – 21:42.84

Um, but when you come back to L.A., do you... Do you love L.A.? I do. Because I feel like I don't love L.A. when I'm here, but when I come back here, I'm like, oh, I'm just used to it here.

21:42.96 – 21:48.40

I'm... I'm used to a good thing here. And I'm reminded how much I really do enjoy this city.

2Speaker 2
21:48.54 – 21:55.14

I do love L.A. I mean, I... I love L.A. because I feel like you, like, discover it. You know?

21:55.26 – 21:58.20

Like, there's... It's not an obvious city.

1Speaker 1
21:58.40 – 21:59.22

Yeah, because you're always driving.

2Speaker 2
21:59.54 – 22:12.98

Yeah, but, like, you have to, like, find the good stuff, you know? Like, a city like Paris or New York, like, announces itself. Like, you can just... Here, you've got to kind of, like, search and find the good, good, interesting stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

22:12.98 – 22:14.02

And there's lots of it. And you're like,

1Speaker 1
22:14.02 – 22:18.40

oh, I've been driving by that cool little restaurant my whole life, and I never stop. Yeah.

4Speaker 4
22:18.64 – 22:21.04

Have you ever been to the Huntington Gardens in Pasadena?

2Speaker 2
22:21.18 – 22:25.12

I was there yesterday. You're kidding. Don't you love that place? My favorite place in the city.

4Speaker 4
22:25.32 – 22:26.20

Yeah, mine too.

1Speaker 1
22:26.72 – 22:32.42

Wait, I've never been. Will you guys take me? Yeah. And I'm a kind of a garden nut. You've never been?

4Speaker 4
22:32.42 – 22:33.06

Oh, my God, Jay.

1Speaker 1
22:33.06 – 22:35.22

I don't think I have. That is so exciting. Yeah.

2Speaker 2
22:35.42 – 22:37.72

You're gonna have, like, the best, uh, best, discovery.

4Speaker 4
22:37.72 – 22:40.88

Wait, don't you think that's weird that you just said that and I brought up the garden?

3Speaker 3
22:40.90 – 22:44.56

That's wild. Jay, don't sell yourself short. You're not a garden nut. You're just a nut.

1Speaker 1
22:44.58 – 22:46.56

Yeah, that's true. Many different nuts.

3Speaker 3
22:47.78 – 22:48.64

Huntington Gardens are beautiful.

1Speaker 1
22:48.82 – 22:52.06

Do they have a Japanese garden there? Yes. Because I may have been there to look at that.

2Speaker 2
22:52.32 – 22:54.64

They do, and wait, what's the, um...

1Speaker 1
22:54.64 – 23:06.32

No, truly, because there was a moment where I was so into a Japanese garden that I went to go look at a few, and there's one at UCLA. I went and looked at, and then maybe there's, maybe it was the Huntington Gardens, or maybe it was the other one.

2Speaker 2
23:06.36 – 23:10.56

What's the, um, Chris Farley, Beverly Hills Ninja?

1Speaker 1
23:10.78 – 23:11.72

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

2Speaker 2
23:11.76 – 23:17.96

Remember that? Yeah, sure. Shot at the Japanese garden when they go to Japan. Really? It's just the Huntington Gardens.

4Speaker 4
23:18.24 – 23:19.20

I know. It's the best.

1Speaker 1
23:20.22 – 23:21.10

No way.

4Speaker 4
23:21.30 – 23:22.08

It's important.

2Speaker 2
23:23.00 – 23:25.82

Just maybe have her re-watch before you go.

1Speaker 1
23:25.82 – 23:26.72

to the visit.

4Speaker 4
23:26.74 – 23:31.30

I'll brush up. But I sometimes, Natalie, I sometimes go there alone just because I love it. I love walking around.

2Speaker 2
23:31.30 – 23:37.10

It's the best place in the city. I know. There's so much, the Desert Garden is like walking on the moon.

4Speaker 4
23:37.36 – 23:41.60

And then you know what I do. afterwards? I go to the, um, Pie and Burger for a burger and a piece of pie.

2Speaker 2
23:41.88 – 23:42.24

Clever.

4Speaker 4
23:42.96 – 23:43.92

Only a few blocks away.

1Speaker 1
23:44.06 – 23:52.20

You call me before you do these, these, these semi-suicidal walkabouts. Um, you know, I'll walk with you.

4Speaker 4
23:52.56 – 23:55.72

Okay, come. I'd love it. I would love it. It's so peaceful and beautiful.

3Speaker 3
23:55.86 – 23:56.62

Sean, what do you think about?

4Speaker 4
23:57.56 – 23:58.82

What do I think about what?

3Speaker 3
23:59.00 – 23:59.96

You know, when you're walking through the garden.

1Speaker 1
24:00.38 – 24:04.88

What you're going to have on the burger and what kind of pie? What is your go-to pie?

4Speaker 4
24:05.00 – 24:08.14

I think about Natalie Portman. I think about what she's doing right now. Thank you.

2Speaker 2
24:09.16 – 24:11.16

Yeah, we should do this together.

4Speaker 4
24:11.48 – 24:13.16

Yeah, I would love it. It's so fun. I would love,

3Speaker 3
24:13.38 – 24:20.44

Sean, I mean, Jason, how great would it be to be walking in the Japanese Garden and Huntington Garden and run into Sean and Natalie walking?

4Speaker 4
24:21.26 – 24:23.22

Holding hands walking through the Japanese Garden. Arm in arm.

1Speaker 1
24:23.22 – 24:26.20

I would look around, for where is the camera? What are you guys shooting?

3Speaker 3
24:26.54 – 24:27.46

Yeah, right. Sure.

1Speaker 1
24:28.10 – 24:36.84

All right, Natalie, let's get into the teeth of this interview here. God, it's going to be hard hitting. Let's see, here. It's all over Wikipedia. No, what, what, what, what?

24:36.94 – 24:40.82

Because mom nor dad were into the business, right?

2Speaker 2
24:41.02 – 24:43.16

No, dad's a fertility doctor.

3Speaker 3
24:43.78 – 24:44.50

Oh, yeah, yeah.

2Speaker 2
24:44.52 – 24:45.48

Mom's a painter.

4Speaker 4
24:46.04 – 24:47.86

Right. Did you see, did you see Our Father?

2Speaker 2
24:48.96 – 24:54.80

No. Uh-oh. Is that like one of those bad fertility doctors? Oh, no.

4Speaker 4
24:55.20 – 24:57.48

That's not your dad. I'm just saying it's a really interesting documentary.

2Speaker 2
24:58.04 – 25:09.22

I remember there was a TV movie when I was little, where everyone, they realized that the fertility doctor was like messed up because everyone had the eye patches at the playground.

4Speaker 4
25:09.66 – 25:09.94

Yeah.

2Speaker 2
25:09.96 – 25:19.70

And they realized that there was like No. one, one genetic donor for all of the children in the neighborhood. So all the kids had eye patches. No.

25:22.38 – 25:24.46

I do. Yeah. Nightmare. Wow.

1Speaker 1
25:25.02 – 25:31.30

So what, so what was it, was it, well, wait, so you, you're minding your own business.

25:33.20 – 25:44.08

Somebody saw you in a store or something. They said, hey, do you want to be a kid model? You were like, no, but you did think, well, maybe I'll go get an agent and start doing commercials, maybe.

2Speaker 2
25:44.34 – 25:46.26

Jason, you know so much about me.

1Speaker 1
25:46.40 – 25:51.84

But that's, that's not accurate, right? It's like kind of, I'm around the facts, but not really nailing them. Yeah, no,

2Speaker 2
25:51.94 – 25:54.80

I really liked, I was 10 years old.

1Speaker 1
25:54.90 – 25:55.26

Yes.

2Speaker 2
25:55.40 – 25:59.70

And I, like, I'm from Long Island. I'm from the real Long Island.

1Speaker 1
25:59.86 – 26:03.06

Not out there, where all you elites are now. I never went.

2Speaker 2
26:03.06 – 26:05.10

to the Hamptons until I was like 35..

3Speaker 3
26:05.54 – 26:11.00

Me, neither. Johnny Range Roper. Me, neither. By the way, for what, for what it's worth. Uh, huh.

2Speaker 2
26:11.78 – 26:13.56

I grew up in like the mall.

1Speaker 1
26:14.18 – 26:14.30

Yeah.

2Speaker 2
26:14.86 – 26:25.04

And, um, and yeah, a lot of kids I grew up with were like auditioning and doing commercials and stuff to make money for college. And I told my parents

1Speaker 1
26:25.04 – 26:25.24

like,

2Speaker 2
26:25.34 – 26:33.12

I want to do that too. And they were very reluctant because they are, just like, you know, kids who are actors end up.

1Speaker 1
26:34.02 – 26:36.62

in. like Jason. Robbing liquor stores. Yeah. Like me.

26:36.62 – 26:36.88

And they end up.

2Speaker 2
26:36.88 – 26:37.46

in trouble.

1Speaker 1
26:38.10 – 26:39.54

Yeah. The golf addiction.

2Speaker 2
26:39.84 – 26:43.84

And, uh, yeah. And I convinced them to let me, and then they let me, and.

1Speaker 1
26:44.22 – 26:48.42

But it was purely to finance a future education. Like it wasn't, you didn't have, like some like.

2Speaker 2
26:48.42 – 27:01.36

Not even. It was just because I wanted to. I mean, my dad, my dad, like, insisted on paying for my college and stuff anyway. So, it was just really fun for me. yeah.

1Speaker 1
27:01.64 – 27:04.76

And did you start with, did you start selling cereal and.

2Speaker 2
27:05.46 – 27:08.16

I never got commercials. I always tried out.

4Speaker 4
27:08.90 – 27:08.92

Really?

2Speaker 2
27:09.08 – 27:16.22

But I never got anything like of the like children's things. I just got straight into the professional. That was.

1Speaker 1
27:16.22 – 27:19.68

number one. And that was Luc Besson, right? Wait,

3Speaker 3
27:19.72 – 27:20.78

was that your first job?

2Speaker 2
27:21.30 – 27:27.18

That was my first job. That was my first job. No way. Yeah. I did one.

27:27.40 – 27:31.06

I was an understudy in an off-Broadway musical before that.

4Speaker 4
27:31.34 – 27:31.80

What was it?

2Speaker 2
27:31.82 – 27:33.68

That was my one thing. It's called Ruthless.

1Speaker 1
27:33.94 – 27:40.18

Wait, and you want to know who else was cast as the understudy in that? Lindsay Lohan. No. Correct? No.

27:40.48 – 27:42.50

Sorry, Britney Spears. Britney Spears.

4Speaker 4
27:42.66 – 27:42.94

No way.

2Speaker 2
27:42.94 – 27:46.56

Britney Spears was the under, I took over for her.

4Speaker 4
27:46.88 – 27:48.32

No way. When I was 10.

2Speaker 2
27:48.32 – 27:49.48

and then I got, yeah.

4Speaker 4
27:49.76 – 27:50.58

That's crazy.

1Speaker 1
27:50.74 – 27:51.76

I didn't know that. I haven't seen her since.

3Speaker 3
27:51.84 – 27:55.56

So wait, so you were 11 when you did The Professional?

2Speaker 2
27:55.82 – 27:58.02

I was 11.. I turned 12 while we were shooting.

3Speaker 3
27:58.12 – 27:59.28

Oh my God. That is so crazy.

1Speaker 1
27:59.28 – 28:01.02

So you've seen Britney Spears since?

2Speaker 2
28:01.48 – 28:01.92

Yes.

1Speaker 1
28:02.18 – 28:05.96

And you guys did a little high five about, look how far we've come.

2Speaker 2
28:06.24 – 28:09.98

We did. We did. We threw a New Year's party together when we were 18..

1Speaker 1
28:10.16 – 28:10.80

No way.

4Speaker 4
28:10.80 – 28:11.76

Oh, wow, that's cool.

2Speaker 2
28:11.78 – 28:12.22

Yes, way.

1Speaker 1
28:12.32 – 28:15.10

Hang on a second. Yes. That sounds like a good party.

2Speaker 2
28:15.42 – 28:16.58

It was a good party.

1Speaker 1
28:16.98 – 28:20.06

You guys at 18?. That must have been like.

2Speaker 2
28:20.06 – 28:20.78

Maybe 99?.

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1999?.

1Speaker 1
28:23.66 – 28:27.38

Must have been an enormous party. Wow. Was it huge, that party?

2Speaker 2
28:27.42 – 28:28.32

It was a good party.

3Speaker 3
28:29.06 – 28:29.92

What month? What month?

2Speaker 2
28:30.56 – 28:31.28

What month was?

3Speaker 3
28:31.38 – 28:33.00

What month's your birthday? Oh,

2Speaker 2
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my birthday is June.

1Speaker 1
28:35.14 – 28:38.78

June what? I thought you were asking what month they had their New Year's party in. Oh, it was New Year's.

4Speaker 4
28:38.80 – 28:39.40

Oh, it was New Year's.

3Speaker 3
28:39.42 – 28:41.92

I thought you said it was birthday party. It was a New Year's party?

2Speaker 2
28:42.00 – 28:42.86

It was a New Year's party.

3Speaker 3
28:42.92 – 28:44.08

Okay, so 99.. 99, okay.

1Speaker 1
28:44.78 – 28:46.08

I used to love throwing parties.

2Speaker 2
28:46.94 – 28:48.46

Right? Remember parties?

1Speaker 1
28:48.70 – 28:53.76

Remember when we used to throw parties? Now the only parties we throw is for the kids. Yeah. That's it. Bouncy houses.

28:54.04 – 28:54.58

Yeah. Yeah.

3Speaker 3
28:54.90 – 29:15.46

Were you worried at all when you became a young actor and you're doing the professional, your first film job, which is insane, still insane to me. Were you worried that you would end up at certain, were your parents worried that you'd end up like on a camping trip on, on, you know, mountain bikes with Leif Garrett? Like, did that ever, was that a concern for you? Like, that would be.

1Speaker 1
29:15.48 – 29:16.90

He's taking a shot at my trajectory.

29:19.52 – 29:22.88

By the way, that was a fun trip. It was a fun trip.

3Speaker 3
29:23.08 – 29:35.16

I know. But, no, but were you worried, were your parents legitimately worried? Did they think like, oh, this is going to peel you away from work, from school, I'd rather, not work, but from school and that kind of thing? Is that what it was?

2Speaker 2
29:35.68 – 29:58.64

Oh, yeah. Yeah, I mean, they were very concerned. They would, I mean, my mom was like with me all the time and made sure that no one got near me. And yeah, and I wasn't allowed to miss school, so I always was shooting on like vacations. And then, yeah, when I went to college, my dad was like, okay, that was cute.

29:58.92 – 30:03.50

Time to, time to move on. Really? Let's find another job, a real job.

1Speaker 1
30:03.82 – 30:14.64

And then, when you, when you majored in psychology, was that, was that because that's, that was the occupation that you wanted to go into, or was it just like, no, this is something that I'm interested in? Yeah, I feel like.

2Speaker 2
30:14.64 – 30:21.30

it was more like most people who study psychology, which is like, I want to know why I'm crazy.

1Speaker 1
30:21.50 – 30:25.60

Yeah. Right, right, right. I'm fascinated by it. I wish I'd studied that. Yeah.

30:25.86 – 30:26.62

I'd have some answers.

4Speaker 4
30:26.80 – 30:36.28

but I, don't you think like acting and the thing that we do is kind of a form of psychology, and, totally. You know, because the study of human behavior, that's all we do.

2Speaker 2
30:36.36 – 30:37.72

It is very similar.

1Speaker 1
30:38.20 – 30:40.16

Did you have a specific?

30:41.88 – 30:55.34

role model, mentor, ideal when you did take the time off, kind of when you went to school, and the one that comes to mind potentially is Jodie Foster? Yeah. Yeah? Yeah, Jodie Foster. Did you ever talk to her about it?

2Speaker 2
30:56.16 – 31:15.42

You know, I talked to her much later, which was amazing. I did a speech at a women's march about being like sexualized as a young actress and she reached out to me after that, and we like talked, and it was amazing. and she's just, she's, yeah, she's still my favorite role model.

4Speaker 4
31:17.42 – 31:36.26

She's pretty cool. Yeah. Now, are you, are you also like? just going back to the whole comment that you said about being sexualized as a young actress, and how awful that must be. Do you now have all these years having worked in the business, do you recognize a personality when they walk into the room as a dangerous one?

31:36.26 – 31:49.24

now that you have been around it for so long, do you, like, you, know what, I can see that man or woman coming towards me? or we're going to work together, or maybe they, something else, and you recognize it, so you've learned to adjust or how to deal with that?

2Speaker 2
31:49.88 – 32:08.34

No, no, I haven't. It's perfect. I feel like it's still surprising that it exists. Yeah. But, yeah, but I feel like that kind of like projection of seriousness protected me in a way, because I feel like it was almost like a warning signal like, don't do shit to her.

32:08.66 – 32:08.80

Yeah,

4Speaker 4
32:08.88 – 32:09.48

yeah, yeah.

1Speaker 1
32:09.64 – 32:11.94

Yeah, she'll sniff you out and call you out.

2Speaker 2
32:11.98 – 32:32.88

Not that anyone ever, like, you, know, deserves it or is asking for it, but, like, you can, you know, I felt like that was my conscious way, unconscious way of doing it. But, with people, yeah, I feel like the biggest sign is when people talk shit about women.

1Speaker 1
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Mm-hmm.

2Speaker 2
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I'm like, if they talk shit about anyone, even if they're just like, oh, she's really difficult, or she's, I'm like, that's like a flag for me. I'm like, there's more to that story. Uh-huh.

1Speaker 1
32:43.50 – 32:46.22

And when I walk away, what are they gonna say about me? Yeah,

2Speaker 2
32:46.38 – 32:50.06

like, there's, yeah, talking shit in general.

4Speaker 4
32:50.14 – 32:50.92

Yeah, that makes sense.

3Speaker 3
32:52.52 – 32:54.60

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1Speaker 1
32:58.56 – 32:59.86

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4Speaker 4
33:01.52 – 33:01.84

Um,

1Speaker 1
33:02.66 – 33:04.52

you wanna get to Star Wars, Sean?

4Speaker 4
33:04.56 – 33:05.78

No, I'm not gonna, I was gonna,

3Speaker 3
33:05.86 – 33:11.80

I was gonna apologize, but in advance and then say, we're really sorry, but Sean has some.

4Speaker 4
33:13.14 – 33:14.36

It has to do.

3Speaker 3
33:14.36 – 33:16.08

with the planet Voltron or whatever.

4Speaker 4
33:17.58 – 34:02.12

No, no, no, I, you know how much I love you and I love everything you've done. but so I just, I just will say, like a blanket statement about Star Wars and the Marvel Universe and any kind of big movie that you're a part of, because I grew up in Chicago with like, big dreams of, like going out to LA and being, you know, working as an actor, and so you get here and I still have that awe of like, oh my God, I can't believe. I'm on a lot, I can't believe. I'm on a set, I can't, like. it never goes away, and so my question to you is like having grown up in it, and Jason too, when you're a part of Star Wars or the Marvel Universe, or whatever it is, are you still at all like me, a little kid from Chicago is like, I can't believe I'm, or are you just like, I got this job, here's the work, I'm gonna show up on time and do my job?

34:02.42 – 34:05.58

Do you know what I mean? Do you, can you separate it at all, or are you still in awe?

2Speaker 2
34:06.18 – 34:33.56

I'm pretty in awe, like when I got to, I feel like it was luckier to do the last Thor, because it was, like. I have done so much now that I can understand how different it is, like the technology and stuff makes me amazed. and also having kids now, getting to bring my kids to the set and, like, you know, they get to fly on wires and watch me fly, and I have a 12-year-old and a six-year-old.

4Speaker 4
34:33.56 – 34:34.88

30 and 40, no, I'm kidding.

1Speaker 1
34:35.50 – 34:49.28

12 and six, is that what you said? Yeah. Perfect, love it. Yeah, so now they're starting to, well, does that, do you think about them when you consider parts too? Like, oh, this one I'm gonna get major cred for, for them.

34:49.36 – 34:50.26

Oh yeah,

2Speaker 2
34:50.58 – 34:55.76

oh yeah. Like, main consideration is what they'll think.

4Speaker 4
34:56.10 – 34:56.24

Yeah.

1Speaker 1
34:56.46 – 35:06.42

Was there, who in that, who in the room at the Globes, do you think a selfie with would have given you the best points with your 12-year-old? I mean, would it have been Taylor? My,

2Speaker 2
35:06.66 – 35:13.78

no, my 12-year-old's a boy. I'm like, there were no soccer players in that room,

4Speaker 4
35:13.86 – 35:14.84

so. yeah.

1Speaker 1
35:15.54 – 35:15.84

Right.

3Speaker 3
35:16.20 – 35:18.16

He's a big soccer fan? Oh,

1Speaker 1
35:18.56 – 35:20.30

Matt. Hang on,

3Speaker 3
35:20.34 – 35:20.96

who's his team?

2Speaker 2
35:21.84 – 35:27.26

He loves Real Madrid and he loves Arsenal. Really? And PSG, of course.

3Speaker 3
35:27.34 – 35:29.24

Of course, PSG, sure, sure, and he loves Mbappe.

2Speaker 2
35:30.42 – 35:31.94

And Angel City here.

3Speaker 3
35:31.94 – 35:35.18

Yeah, sure, sure. Oh, right, wait, you're part of Angel City.

1Speaker 1
35:35.32 – 35:37.08

she's a part owner in a soccer team, Willie.

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