"Pedro Pascal"

Okay, we're really really late. We got to start the show. I want to get right into it, but I really want to tell you something About myself that not a lot of people know. But I know you're waiting. I know you're waiting.

What?

Will mention that he was gonna try a couple of new characters today. Oh, yeah.

Daddy talk about the new characters. Is that what he was saying? Make sure they aren't offensive Accents, please. Okay. Oh, this guy's defending you.

That's sort of stereotypical.

What. you don't know anything about that guy's story. You don't know anything about that guy's about him. Tell us about him. Oh, I sorry he so in.

This is a great segue, because let me take you, let me tell you what I want. Yeah, I agree, It is what I want to listen. Will and I are fresh off the boat from New York. Oh, yes, we travel by water. We don't like to fly.

We have the honor of seeing Sean in Goodnight Oscar at the Belasco.

And let me tell you about garbage.

It'll pile up. It does and he's a flies. give it away. Yeah, the flies. I used to date that all the time, Sean.

New York City listener. Yeah, do your eyes and ears a favor, and your heart, quite frankly, and your tear ducts and your laugh Machine, and go see. Goodnight, Oscar, Sean. I will, and I said it immediately after the standing ovation.

No, Sean turned around, Sean. Jason was sitting directly in front of me and he turned around and Jason looks at me and he says

Sean's ruined the podcast. He's ruined the podcast. We can no longer who we gonna make fun of now.

Who can we just get ready? I have any said, he said. and he said how is Sean? He goes and does this every night, and I said not every night.

Not every night, I couldn't make that deal.

Tuesday. most people I'm probably they take a day one night up. No, no, I'm, Sean was talented.

I think we all know Sean is talented. But when you see him play this character, that takes pure acting skill and Then he plays the piano. I knew he was classically trained, but then to see him play seven minutes of Rhapsody in Blue, Yeah, unaccompanied on a big-ass Steinway in the middle of a Broadway stage and bring the entire audience to their feet with, with wet faces from The crescendo of this play, with him playing this piano really does play it. I mean, it's just. and this character they played.

But but it's very sweet. Well, you've had a few magical nights behind some theaters, but let's behind the theaters, Sitting in the chair, but in the theater, and, and we, we, that's the theater. That's the theater. That's right off Van Nuys. Anyway, that's a different story.

Unbelievable, what about the star wattage that Sean can cram and that not just our dumbasses? that Berg is sitting there and he's a part investor in the play. He believes in it so much. and boy was he feeling smart at the end. That's really sweet.

It was unbelievable. and and and our buddy Frank Marshall was there. He was just beside himself, what also one of the producers of the play, and then just saying, I mean, I mean everybody, it was, It was unbelievable, Sean, it was incredible, Marty short. This is my favorite. so I seem.

Wait another another great line, though that will, will came up to me at the party afterwards and the first thing will. Arnett says to Me he goes. Hey, I had to get up there in the piano part. How did it go?

And then you wake up to a nomination from the Outer Critics Circle.

You guys are so nice.

We love you. We love you.

We were not. now let me just say something. it meant the world that you got. it meant the world that you guys took the Time and effort to come out to see me and support me. I love you guys.

I would, I would have done it every night of the week if we thanks. That's all the time we have. I think okay.

I Can't wait.

Okay, I can't wait. this is so exciting. This is so exciting. Okay, I'm gonna nerd out, guys. Okay.

So, William Shatner, you back. It's Chewbacca. Well close.

Our guest today. I'm so glad we got him here. I wasn't sure he keep available because, as they say, he's hot, hot, hot right now, and in the Hollywood That's triple. He really is all anyone talks about right now. at age 11, He was a Texas State swimming champion.

This is a good. Here we go. You can just pull over, turn your car off and.

Enjoy this. No, no, keep it on. It keeps going through the speakers. Pedro Pascal. Oh my gosh.

This guy? no, can't do it. putting the curtain back. All right. Oh, no, where'd you go?

No, are you Pedro right now? Where am I? I'm in Los Angeles. Oh, you are. Okay, good City of Angels, and in your house.

It looks like an empty interrogation room. It's like an I'm in an empty interrogation room.

It's true. I'm into daddy's. you've seen Scotty, but I'm not hitting in you. I'm just celebrating how cool it is that the Internet has Collectively referred to you as our daddy and that you embrace it. I've seen you in interviews and stuff like you, kind of like that.

Well, just keep talking. You know the kid. that's what the kids call you. you've got what the kids call Riz. do we know what Riz is?

Yeah, no, what's, Riz?

Charasma, okay, My kids would say they call it W Riz. got that W Riz, wild charisma, get real and bear.

I want to talk about Craig Mason when we get to it.

We're not talking about Craig, amazing. I want to continue talking about. good night, Oscar. We have just a little bit. you have to invite me.

That's correct. Incredibly well-directed. I did a staged reading for Lisa Peterson.

23 years ago at the taper. That's where I met her. it was part of the. I can't remember what the label of the theater festival and festival new works sort of season that it was and I Nothing, I, just I. we're old.

Did you so so major? did you you're? you're from Texas, which I did not know. You started. did you start?

Yeah in Santiago, Chile. Yeah, and I have to say that's not brag about the research, Sean. No, no, but I want to say this to you in la escuela secondo Secundaria, en la clase de espanol me llamaba Santiago, por que otro chico eligio Juan.

Pero que bien Sean, estoy Santiago. Perdona. Do you know how to speak Spanish? Sean? Que orgullo.

My. I said in Spanish class in high school, my name was Santiago, because it's some other kid picked Juan, which is Sean.

Will, this is a great opportunity for you to?

Launch your the Spanish character. You're working. I would like to, but my character is from Bolivia, sadly.

That's better than that's better than the arbitrary Latino accents I have.

By the way, Pedro, I want to Jason, you can go, but I do want, now that we're in South America. We're talking about this. Pedro, I am. I got to know you, and not personally, but like a lot of people, from watching Narcos. I thought you were so Fucking great in Narcos.

it was.

Narcos was a really lucky job and I think it came on the coattails of the big fight of Oberyn Martell in the mountain and Game of Thrones and the people over at some Netflix realizing that I wasn't living past that episode and then

Spoiler alert. a spoiler alert. Sorry everybody from 10 years ago. See, I'm not a Game of Thrones fan.

So I didn't. I've never watched. not that you're not a fan. You just haven't seen it.

It was a splashy guest role of the season, sort of at the height of the game's popularity, at the game, the games.

They're good. God, it's early for me. Not only we're not gonna cut that, we're gonna double that one. Keep going.

well, that was really the first thing that That was the first time I experienced sort of a larger exposure in relation to work in a big way.

And and that I would, and you met David Benioff in your life. Yeah, I'm saying, you know, exactly.

it completely started there for me as far as consistent work, and and so because of Game of Thrones, I got Narcos, and then That it was amazing. We shot the entire thing in Columbia. Yeah, it was six to seven months a season, and they would have one. it was sort of like. It was so location-based, you know, which is part of the reason I think the show worked as well as it did, because the physical landscape of the show was kind of its secret weapon, in that Where we were shooting was kind of the main character of the show, more than these larger-than-life real.

Dangerous human beings and dangerous circumstances. What was that like working in Columbia? You know, I'm a soft guy and and and all I'm thinking about is Humidity and I'm and I'm smelling a little bit of mildew on the wardrobe.

Sometimes we were in the jungle. The base of production was in Bogota, and Bogota is 9,000 feet, right?

Yeah, and so I'm thinking the crispy snacks at crafty did were chewy, right? And so it was tough to get a good crunch out of the chips. You could never. no. No, it was dry.

It was, it was, it wasn't, it wasn't humid up in Bogota. Bogota is like Four seasons in a day and humidity isn't part of it. It's kind of gets dry, sunny, rainy.

Windy cold. It's generally like Jason's personality, like kind of from Monday to Friday. It's kind of cold, but manic.

Manic, but but some sometimes beautiful Hostile, but the cocaine is always just around the corner.

careful.

I Mean and Jay what was. and Jay really what he wants to know is nice hotel and how close is the private airport? You know, and if he's got that down, then he's happy.

It's only prop planes going in and out of those high you guys would love.

Columbia and not for the reasons you think it is. Oh, it's the best. It's the best. It's the best.

I would love. I like the yellow soccer uniforms.

It's all I'm into books. you would like the beaches and the mountains and the people.

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Think it's fascinating. I want these guys to hear this because when I was reading about you, about about your parents, were the the political asylum that they had to seek when you were a kid, and The going around the Denmark and then like, but, by the way, before you get into this.

I'm gonna ask these guys Pedro, you know this, but we're gonna expose these guys. Do you guys know who the dictator was in Chile? who was, you know? Ostensibly just a puppet of the American. without looking it up.

No, I mean if you said enough vowels and consonants that you can kind of manipulate in the edit, that he said Pinochet.

Will, but yes, how do you get it all in your head?

Because I don't think about anything else. could my brain? I know I have very little, I have no street smarts, Pinochet. So your parents fled. so you guys fled as because they were in opposition to Pinochet.

Then I want to know how much you paid for your name, because it's a best name in.

Holly. well, he's gonna get to that, because his last name was different, right? He had to change it here.

yes, I was born. I was born Jose Pedro Balmaceda, Pascal and.

Asylum and it, and it worked. Well. one time, Jason, you told Jason When you were a kid, one time you went to the guard Yeah, And you didn't have the right pass at Warner's and you had to go to the gate for and say one is that true?

And I thought about going over the wall.

But I was going to park in the main lot and you had to end up walking over The stage instead of going through gate one. I heard about. I jumped on the back of a golf.

Jason got his first job.

Similar in the guard and then the pass was didn't match up. I dropped my headshot.

I had to double back for my headshot and golf golf cart ran over it, Pedro.

I you know, I remember one of the reasons I know when I was in 1981 and these guys know I'm good on dates the movie Miss missing came out with sissy's basic, Jack Lemmon and and John As well, he's the guy who goes missing and my mom took it to me to see it in the theater. I was probably too young, my mom and And, but I was probably too young, but but she took me anyway And it had such an impact on me to see how other people were living and in really in a real way, like a real. So it's always. I've always. I haven't paid attention necessarily, But, but I always knew that that was the reality in that part of the world, Especially at that time.

It's totally unbelievable. I saw missing myself when I was a kid. It is It had such an imprint in My, you know brain when I saw it because of how closely I could relate it to my parents experience in this.

Don't direct that.

No, it was Costa Gravas. Ah, and and, and you know, my mom was like Little and beautiful, like sissy's basic, you know. Yeah, and And I I remember I think about this now in my middle age that how strange it is to.

You have a place there now that you go back and like it.

I don't have. I don't have a place there, but both my siblings and my father do, yeah.

Wow, but a couple other movies you mentioned that were kind of a big, like shifting gears here. Peggy Sue got married and raising Arizona. You said we're like, yeah, and then also your mom wouldn't let you see a certain movie?

I think my dad, my mom, didn't care. My mom didn't give a shit. My dad was really against me seeing The Breakfast Club. Oh, really? Yeah, I could see.

Sean's in The Breakfast Club and The Lunch Club and The Snack Club.

We're back all the sequels.

But yeah, I wasn't allowed to. I wasn't allowed to see The Breakfast Club because, Wow, Because it was what sent a bad message. It was like it. Yeah, it was like kids complaining about their parents.

I was, like, you know, watching that. that's hysterical. I Have a thousand questions. if you would like to hear one. Okay, by the way, I guarantee you you don't have a fucking.

I went to yeah, and then at 18, I went to New York. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and you were terrible at waiting tables. I was, I really was, I was a bad waiter.

I got to bartend that and then I remember Fred Fred Armisen had his birthday once at Flamingo East, like 20 years ago, upstairs. Yeah. Yeah, and there's almost had like a living room like there was like a little back room and stuff.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, there's this beautiful space and they fired me.

What did you do? That was so bad in each of these spots?

Yeah, cuz you, it's yeah, I read that you got fired him over ten times from different places in some instances.

Well, one I wasn't very good. Yeah, and what about your work was not good. Uh, I didn't have.

Because the acts all sounds like somebody who's got like a major drug problem, just covering, you know.

They didn't have the put up and then he tried to tell us he was gonna do a Xerox my.

Inconsistency with the showing up of the thing.

By the way, all right, so you're bad at waiting tables. No, it's really innocent. I really was, I was just stupid.

You know, you weren't stupid. I don't believe that for a second, but you know, Pedro, You know that Jason's never because he grew up in showbiz. This is a true story. He's never had one of those kinds of jobs, and I think that you kind of wish I've always wanted to had.

Yeah, I've always fantasized about waiting tables and bartending, true.

And I always offer you. every time I have a catering gig over here at the house, when I'm having people over, I would say Jason, come on over. Yeah, you know, and then I end up doing it.

You know, what's scary is that Jason would have, would would have been great. He would have been great.

I do. I do like the idea of each table is like a separate stage, and you're trying to figure out what that audience Needs from you so that you get the best possible tip. Yeah, some, some tables want to be left alone. other tables want a little bit more.

Here's a trip to. here's what we're to trip to you out and that your managers wouldn't have liked it, because you would have always Demanded a hard-out. and yeah, and so you would have been like. I'm gone before dessert, my one joke.

I was used to do as a waiter. I'd come by with the food and I'd put it down and the customer would say oh, that looks Wonderful, and I'd point to my shirt and I'd go. Thanks. I just got it And that's a tip. That's it.

What? why Pascal? Oh, literally, it is not your name. I was just. no, it is.

No, no, but I mean, yes, guys are South Americans. We've got a lot of names like Jose Pedro. I never went by. my dad is Jose Pedro and I'm Jose Pedro and he's, but he, he. he grew up as Pepe and I grew up as Pedro, because it's better.

I will say. I will say it is nice and I will say Pedro Pascal is a, is a star name.

And that's so funny because I resisted it for such a long time. It was something that I wanted, that I was talked, that I wanted to do, You know, before my mother died. Yeah, hilarious.

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Now can I ask you can I fan out and dork out about Mandalorian for just just a little bit for these guys? Oh, hang tight. I can go.

so.

So first of all, I want to know I've seen every episode.

That's I love it, me and Scotty, my husband's the laser that you had in your bellet. There's been a lot of discussion. Safety wasn't turned off and then it came from blog board. Is that true?

Was it originally from blog board? I want Scotty to do a cross in the background in a full.

Scotty, do you have any questions about Mandalorian, truly asking? truly? Scotty, I have so many peaks of the Mandalorian. So listen, when you have that the mask on, Can you? I want to know what can you see?

Yeah, and they're in space, too. Yeah.

I'm a huge fan. We're in space.

We've always been in space.

and.

It's really the only way. it's similar to Narcos in that regard, where it's location based. Sure, And there isn't really any other way to achieve it other than traveling to Galaxies, far, far away from our long past, correct. Mm-hmm? and baby, Yoda Is real.

But how do you do? do they Mike you in the in the helmet or do you do voice a mic pack in this?

There's a mic pack. You're in showbiz right on your person, but there's also. it's a good question, Sean. There's a. there's a.

Harder surfaces of your skull. Do they do? they come, Mike you, in your trailer, or do you just go over the trolley?

Hole or do you have to take the whole helmet off?

Sean. Sean, is it true? you you told me once that just talking at the Mandalorian, every time you watch, it makes you grow Goo, is that true?

That's good, I grow a lot of goo when I watch the show. Yeah, for sure. No, that's so interesting. I just I'm fascinated by the show. I'd love hard to see it's, it's, it's it's.

You kind of there. there's so many will ways that you sort of need to do a head tilt for the camera. that makes it so that you can't even really look into the eyes of the human or puppet that you're acting with and and in in some instances you feel really, really cool and it takes care of most of the work. and and I have a lot of fun in post because John Favreau gives me a lot of Opportunity to kind of edit with him and Go over things that they got, maybe on the day, and it's really really surgical technical work that I've never, yeah.

It's like exactly. you don't have a lot of sink issues, right? No, not a lot of lip flap matches, correct? Yeah, because you can just do now, you know what I'm thinking about in that helmet, is it's just it's odor, you know? Yeah, like your own breath, multiple episodes and stuff.

Yeah,

Yeah, you put a flower in there, or.

what happens? I, I, I was very aware of, like my, Not only that, but sort of the dark plastic of the tea, you know, you're like this. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, It's almost like what your breath smells like.

Yeah, that's it. You're not handing that helmet off to second team for lighting. Are you you don't want? you don't want them in there Or sound. so they got their own right different, different helmet, different flower.

It's so real, Pedro, it's so real. this is giving Jesus that would keep him up.

What do you mean? we don't have a second team helmet like that. that should have just come from the shop.

Pedro, what you need to know is what would happen. is the whole thing with the helmet? if Jason was doing that, he would. It would go to bloom as assistant and then Amanda, his wife. She'd be deep in on the cleaning of the helmet chase.

No, you can play now. I had three callbacks for Mandalorian and I think that that was the issue.

Fabricious, this guy's a problem. You couldn't, you couldn't come to an agreement on that.

That's understand. So there's a Daris's on. so there's is on that show, right? Amy Sedaris. No.

Yeah, she's the girl that was. that was it, you know, there was an instant with Amy said there specifically and and, and that was where She made me laugh so hard that I spat into the helmet helmet, and, and, and, and, and that was a moment where I Came into a clear understanding of the close proximity that I had to my own, To the things that are in my mouth your own, my saliva, and it's you know, or like lunch or breakfast.

I love her. Yeah, but um, listen, I want to talk about your new movie, too. It's, it's, it's What's it called strange way of life? Is that what it is?

strange way of life. Yeah, yeah, for my TV that, and it's a 30-minute film. that's it. it's just one film, 30 minutes short, written and directed by Pedro Almodovar.

Starring Ethan Hawke, and it's it's gay cowboys who travel across the desert to find each other 25 years apart.

Former lovers and one travels across the desert to see him again and

Wasn't he great? He's awesome, isn't he?

It was so great to get to hear you guys Get to know him. Yeah, because I spent the summer with him and you know, I saw Movies that he was in starting with, like the Explorers.

Yeah,

And then Dead Poets Society and reality bites, and then he published a book and then he was on Broadway, and then he was off Broadway, and then he directed off Broadway, and then he was like working with friends, and then we were doing you know This thing with Pedro Almodovar, whose movies I saw growing up. it was kind of a family favorite and It just meant a lot in all earnestness. It was this moment of Sort of being listened to and taken seriously by these two influences Was a very surreal experience for me, because they he was my scene partner and this was our director, and they wanted to be collaborative and they wanted to. I Don't know. Oh, all get on the same page at the same level, and I felt so influenced by both of them in my upbringing that You know, as corny as it may sound, I'm like these guys care what I think.

Yeah, and that was, but you know what, but you know why, Pedro, you know why I mean this too. You earned that seat there because you're really good at what you do. Yeah, and I hope you see What we all see, which is a guy, an incredible talent, incredible artist, and you deserve to be there. And that's why, that's why you were there in that scene with those guys. Yeah, where do we get to see?

Where's it gonna come out? It's gonna premiere, it can.

Get a previous short. That was such a nice story. And then you fucking ruined it with your can, bullshit.

I've never been. did you get to keep any of the? are you gonna go?

I'm gonna. I'm gonna try to go. I want to go Really badly. He did a previous short with Tilda Swinton. So this is the second of what could be three installments of these 30-minute English language.

No, I'll modify. I'm tech avail. Just FYI.

Did you get to keep any of the st. Laurent cowboy stuff? I bet it's some pretty cool stuff.

No, then they don't give me nothing. I asked for the green jacket. if you want to look up the trailer right now, you see me in this kind of like bright Green, Jimmy Stewart. Yeah, you know denim.

Cowboy, no, they want to hold on to it for possible reshoots jacket.

No, they just they just gave me a flat. No, Jason wants to know. did how was it moldy? was the jacket moldy? Did he smell anything?

Did it breathe right out there? Cuz? I imagine it was pretty hot.

Wick, it didn't have a wicking quality. and the and the last thing I want you to do page, if only if you want to. On SNL. you were so fucking funny on a Saturday night live. Can you just do a little bit of the voice one?

Stop asking me. I'm not comfortable with.

Hey, Joe, thank you for joining us, my friend Pedro. We love you very much talent and a friend.

You're such a fan, such a, such a huge fan. you're so good at what you keep doing, my friend.

Bye, Pedro, we love you. great rest of your day. I'm just gonna take the headphones off, cuz I have no idea what.

Slam the iPad. Yep. All right. Bye, buddy. Bye.

Man, he is great. Yeah. Yeah, I'm such a massive fan of The Last of Us. Did you guys watch it? I haven't yet.

I did not play the game. No. Yeah, it's. it was so good. I saw.

He was. it's so dumb. Of course, it's dumb. What is it, dad? That's a great clean.

Don't. what do you mean wills? millions of people enjoy themselves, wait.

But isn't it amazing that, like he, he started out so like he's been doing this forever? So when Game of Thrones hit and wait, when they were you just like Wonder Woman, like all these big things that he's done, He think it kind of came out of it What seemingly always the same story all the time, that it seemingly came out of nowhere, but he's been doing this for ever. Yeah, yeah, so that's why he's like down-to-earth and normal, because he's like you guys are making all the hype. I'm not making all the hype. I'm just working, you know.

I saw me when I saw him in an interview, one of the thing where they had him strapped to a lie detector. And he's just like so comfortable an interview. I guess it was more like an interview. Anyway, whatever it was. He was at a police station and he was strapped.

You got to run where you heading to and are you gonna where you going right now?

I get you some charity thing. Are you saving some kids? Yeah, I got to go feed, feed a bunch of folks.

Are you gonna? are you gonna drive? Are you gonna ride your? no, he's gonna drive. in that.

Have a great show tonight. you, I love you, too.

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