Sunday Special with President Donald Trump, Dr. Peter McCullough, Mike Benz and Pete Hegseth 06/09/24

2024-06-09 00:57:10

He’s a former Secret Service Agent, former NYPD officer, and New York Times best-selling author. Join Dan Bongino each weekday as he tackles the hottest political issues, debunking both liberal and Republican establishment rhetoric.

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First up is our interview with President Trump on the eve of the verdict in his sham conviction.

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That trial was total BS.

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We know it.

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Listen to what he had to say about it.

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We talked about his selection of attorney general, which I think is the most important

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position he's going to pick.

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Check this out.

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Mr. President, I know you've got a thousand important decisions you have to make about

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personnel with your team.

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I'm not naive to that, but I made the argument on my show a couple of times.

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You may think I'm crazy.

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Maybe not.

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I think your selection for attorney general is your most important pick.

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Vice President's obviously important.

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But if we get the attorney general wrong, I know you won't.

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But if we get that wrong after this abomination of justice and what happened to you, we're

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not going to have a country left.

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Your thoughts on that?

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It's a very big choice that I made two bad choices.

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Now, you know, I was loyal.

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Jeff Sessions, he was the first senator to endorse me.

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He came to me, please let me.

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He was begging me to do it after I won.

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And I was loyal.

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And he didn't have what it took.

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You know, as soon as he heard the word Russia, he ran for the hills.

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And Bill Barr, you know, unfortunately, I know he endorsed me recently, so it's always

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tough to be.

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I mean, if you can believe that he endorsed me, but he was not a man of strength.

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He was a coward.

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And he was afraid to go after people in the election, cheating that went on that you know

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and everybody knows with a brain went on.

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And we're not going to let that happen again.

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But I wish, you know, I made two different choices there.

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I had it twice.

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And then you have other important positions, too.

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I think, by the way, I think defense was very good at the end.

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He did a good job.

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But we had mostly good, you know, Bob Lighthizer was great.

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We had a lot of great people.

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But now I know everybody, Dan.

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And I know the good ones, the strong ones, the weak ones, the dumb ones, the smart ones.

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I know them all.

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But I was never, you know, I was never a Washington guy.

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I was with you in New York and I knew New York very well.

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But now I know Washington better than probably anybody.

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And I know the good ones and the bad ones, the weak ones and the strong ones.

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And we got to get there.

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But that is an important.

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And then you need Secretary of State, you need Secretary of Defense.

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They're all important, Dan.

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Every one of them.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, they are.

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I just, Attorney General, with everything at the Weaponization and Justice Department

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is really troubling.

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Very important decision.

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No question about it.

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Speaking of your trial here as well, Mark Levin, a friend of both of ours, a real great

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patriot there.

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He put out a very interesting thread this morning on his social media accounts talking

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about how the Supreme Court, and we don't know yet what's going to happen, but if there

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is a ridiculous conviction in this sham, disgusting, filth-ridden, grotesque trial, I don't have

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enough adjectives and adverbs to describe this abomination, that the Supreme Court should

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take this thing immediately on due process violations.

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They've yet to state a crime, no less proved beyond a reasonable doubt you committed one.

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Your thoughts on that and the left's attempts right now to intimidate the Supreme Court

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going after Alito and others.

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They're clearly doing that to send a message in case this winds up at the Supreme Court.

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Well, they're trying to play the ref.

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Alito's a tough guy and he's strong and very, very smart.

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And he put out a great statement today.

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In fact, I commented on it, I don't know if you saw that, on truth.

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Your people love truth and so do I.

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But I commented on it and I gave him a lot of credit for it.

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But they play the ref.

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You know, they intimidate him.

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They still to this day, you know, by law, they have to give, you can't have protesters,

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you can't around their houses.

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They haven't done a thing.

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They haven't done a thing.

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What they're doing is so bad.

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They haven't done anything to protect the justices.

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It's really disgraceful what's going on.

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You know, all that, we heard about it for two years.

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But Alito's great.

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Thomas is great.

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The three that I put in, I think they do, I mean, it's a little early.

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But the people are, people are starting to warm up to him.

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I will say this.

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But they've got to be strong and they've got to be tough.

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Alito's been very tough, very good.

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And Thomas has been good.

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And we're going to see how it all works out.

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But it's such an important position, such a big deal.

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But when I look at the way they're treated, you know, they play the ref.

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They try and scare them.

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They try and, you know, like, look, they're humans like everybody else.

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But they try and do Bobby Knight, you know, the great Bobby Knight, he'd scream, scream,

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scream.

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And Bobby said, well, you're not going to win this one, but we'll win the next call.

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Right.

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And that's what they do with our judges.

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Not only the Supreme Court justices, but they do it with judges and they do it with a lot

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of different people.

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They do it with a lot of different people where they're afraid to function.

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People are afraid to function because they don't want to go through it.

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But the and the problem is the left.

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Look, you know, the problem is the left.

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I see.

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I know the left.

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I know the right.

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The big problem here.

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They don't talk about it.

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The problem is the left and the danger comes from the big danger comes from the left.

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Yeah, they do.

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I mean, obviously, they've taken on totalitarian tendencies.

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I mean, we've seen it.

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The evidence is everywhere.

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Mr. President, this discussion, I hate to even bring this embarrassing to even have

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this discussion, but this is how crazy they are.

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This discussion of jail and the Secret Service advancing a job.

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I mean, this is third world type stuff.

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I got to tell you, there are third world tinpot dictators who are watching this and can't

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believe what's happening.

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We're living in a third world country.

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We have no borders.

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They're pouring in by the millions and they're coming from prisons and jails and mental institutions

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and insane asylums.

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And they're coming, they're terrorists, massive numbers of terrorists are coming in.

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They're coming from the Congo.

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They're coming from all over Africa.

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They're coming from all over Asia and they're coming from the Middle East and they're coming

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from South America.

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But you would be amazed.

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The numbers are getting bigger outside of South America.

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They're coming from all over the world.

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We have no idea who they are in many cases from where they come.

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The only thing we know is they're tough as hell and they're criminals.

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Many, many criminals are coming in.

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Many, many criminals are coming in.

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And this horrible president, the worst president in the history of our country, is allowing

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it to happen.

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He's destroying the fabric of our country.

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And we're going to have the biggest deportation ever, ever.

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And we're going to get and we're going to start with the bad ones that we know who they

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are.

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And you know who knows who they are?

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The local police.

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They know everything about them.

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We're going to give immunity to them and we're going to let them do their job because they

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have to.

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But local police, they're afraid to protect people because they end up losing their pension,

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losing their job.

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You know it better than anybody.

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They lose their family if they do their job.

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And we're not going to let that happen.

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They have to do their job.

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So, Mr. President, Joe Biden had a rally in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, in a gym.

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I think about five people showed up, two family members and three members of the media.

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How does that make you feel that they're they're trying to hole you up in a courtroom

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and the and the reason they're doing it is obvious.

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You go to the South Bronx, a deep blue area, thousands of people show up.

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It's a raucous crowd.

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Joe Biden goes to an area should be Democrat and, you know, five, 10 people exaggerating

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a little bit, but not too much.

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The guy can't draw a crowd.

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He can't compete against you.

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He's not a leader.

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And the whole thing was a disgrace.

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The whole election was a rigged election and a disgrace.

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And we're going to make it up.

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November 5th is going to be the most important day in the history of our country.

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We're going to make it up and we're going to we're going to make America great again.

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That's all I can tell you.

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We're going to do it fast.

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We're going to drill.

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We're going to get energy prices down, like down, I say, drill, baby, drill.

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We're going to get energy prices way down.

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We're going to bring that those numbers.

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I mean, people are looking at numbers sometimes as high as 50 percent of costs of things are

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up.

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No matter what.

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No matter what they're making, they're getting wiped out.

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The middle class is being destroyed.

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The lower the the lower income people are.

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They can't even live under Biden.

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You know, he talked about by dynamics.

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He doesn't use the term anymore.

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It's a disaster.

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But the people are being hurt in our country.

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Look, we wouldn't have had inflation, more importantly, because frankly, that's numbers

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and it's terrible.

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But we wouldn't have had all those people being killed in Ukraine.

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It would have never happened.

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Putin would have never done it.

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We would have had oil prices down.

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I mean, the high oil prices gave him the money to do it.

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And we had low oil prices.

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We had low energy prices.

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You wouldn't have had Israel.

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You wouldn't have had the October 7th attack in Israel.

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You wouldn't have any of this stuff.

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You wouldn't have China.

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China wouldn't be eyeing Taiwan, which looks like they want it pretty badly.

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They weren't doing it.

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I had plenty of talks with him and I had plenty of talks with Putin that would have never

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gone in.

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Putin would have never gone in.

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President Xi would have never gone in.

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We would have had a much different world.

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I'll tell you, Dan, you wouldn't have had those two things alone.

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You wouldn't have had inflation.

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And if you take those three out and you would have had Iran was as you know, they were broke.

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They weren't funding Hamas and they weren't funding anything.

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They weren't funding Hezbollah.

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They weren't funding any of these terrorist states, these terror gangs, you call them,

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because they're gangs.

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And they were being funded by Iran.

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Iran had no money.

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They had no money.

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We had anybody bought.

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They couldn't do business in the United States.

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They had no money.

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And now they have two hundred and twenty four billion dollars, a lot of money.

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So there are different different group and they're looking to get a nuclear weapon and

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they're going to have one soon because this this idiot is allowing them to have a nuclear

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weapon.

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And when they have, you're not going to be able to talk to them anymore.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Just a new report released on their progress.

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Mr. President, I'm sorry you're going through all this.

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Thanks for fighting for the country.

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We really appreciate it.

3Speaker 3
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And thank you so much for these exclusive comments after this sham trial today.

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We we really appreciate it.

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Thanks for your time.

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It is my honor to be fighting.

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Thank you very much.

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Thanks, Dan.

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Sir.

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Appreciate it very much.

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President Trump, folks.

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President Donald J. Trump.

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We talked with renowned cardiologist Dr. Peter McCullough about what happened with Dr. Fauci

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and most importantly, the potential dangers of the vaccine for some people and how you'd

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know you were at risk.

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All right.

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This is one of my most popular guests, been on the show often, world-renowned cardiologist

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and early on, one of the few, sadly, and I say that with regret, medical professionals,

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healthcare professionals out there who is willing to say, hey, we're going to do science

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here, we're going to do hysteria when COVID hit in 2020 and 2021.

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Welcoming back to the show, Dr. Peter McCullough, Doc, welcome to the show.

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Thanks for spending some time with us.

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Thank you.

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Doc, you watched Dr. Fauci's hearing like I did.

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I saw some of your commentary on Fox about it, and you had to be as horrified as I was.

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It appears he's rewriting history.

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What did you think first about his line about how he kept an open mind about the lab leak

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theory when you and I can both read his emails and what was happening behind the scenes?

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It appeared they were doing everything to suppress us from looking into this lab leak

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theory.

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Keeping an open mind on his plan.

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He was part of this conspiracy, this working group of the NIAID, his research branch, Ralph

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Baric at UNC Chapel Hill, Peter Daszak at EcoHealth Alliance, and Dr. Xing Li, the Bat

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Lady in Wuhan.

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They created SARS-CoV-2.

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Fauci is part of that team.

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They published it in 2015 and 2016, Nature Medicine, proceeds of the National Academy

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of Sciences.

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They're blocking the release of that genetic code from those two papers, which probably

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closely matches SARS-CoV-2, and then Fauci, clearly in the emails, was actively working

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to cover it up.

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So when he goes to Capitol Hill and says he kept an open mind, he's part of the team that

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created it.

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Yeah, that kind of really disturbed me because, you know, people like you and I, who legitimately

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kept an open mind, you know, Doc, I didn't know early on if it had some natural origin.

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I'm not a virologist, an epidemiologist, certainly could have.

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But the evidence that a virus that leaked from Wuhan was studying viruses of that specific

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origin seemed pretty overwhelming.

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Let me move on to some other information, more your your wheelhouse here.

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You had warned early on about the vaccine that, hey, this may not be for everyone.

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You said there are some there's some information about this vaccine.

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We don't know everything.

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We need some longitudinal data over time about what these outcomes may be.

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And again, you were called a conspiracy theorist and every malicious name in the book.

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And it turns out that you may in fact have been right.

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And some of the benefits of this vaccine were likely overstated.

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Where do we stand now with the vaccine?

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I believe last time we talked, you told me there were three groups of responders.

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And I don't want to put words in your mouth that some people are having a hard time with

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this.

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Now that we have a bigger data set and time has passed, what what are your thoughts on

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the vaccine, its efficacy and side effects?

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You know, I'm the only public figure who called it ahead of time.

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August of 2020, Dan, I published an op ed in The Hill.

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It was titled The Great Gamble of the COVID-19 Vaccine Program.

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I'm the only one.

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You're talking to him.

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I called it ahead of time.

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I said, listen, it's the genetic code for the dangerous and lethal part of the virus.

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Once this genetic code gets injected, we had no way of shutting it off.

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We had no idea where it went in the body, how long it lasted.

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And boy, has it been a disaster.

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Fortunately, data from three sources now suggest about a third of people have zero side effects,

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zero, starting from the initial shots.

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Just under two thirds have some mild side effects, but they're OK.

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Three studies demonstrate that between 5 to 10 percent of people, Dan, they're in trouble.

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Now, Doc, we're talking to Dr. Peter McCullough, world-renowned cardiologist, one of the few

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truth tellers early on about COVID.

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Is that, forgive me, again, not being a medical health professional, is that an unusually

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large number for an mRNA-based vaccine to have side effects in the 5 to 10 percent range?

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You see this stuff all the time.

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Is that high?

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Is it low?

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Is it average?

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In terms of outcomes in cardiology, low is less than 1 percent, moderate is 1 to 5 percent,

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and high is over 5 percent.

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Our CDC v-safe data, 10 million Americans, they took the shots, Dan, 7.7 percent of people

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got so sick with the shots they had to go to urgent care or be hospitalized.

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It's too high.

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So, when you were warning about this early on, and medical health professionals, and

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I use that term loosely, like Dr. Fauci and others, Dr. Birx, when they were implying

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that this vaccine had an incredibly tight safety profile and that we really shouldn't

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worry, I mean, you can go back and listen to yourself.

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You heard it, Doc, just like I did.

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They were the ones actually manipulating the science, correct?

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It wasn't people like yourself who said, maybe we should wait a little bit.

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They were the ones putting out this information.

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Dan, when the vaccines first came out, December 10, 2020, there was only one month for the

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primary series and two months of observation.

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No one could have known what happened in month four.

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No one could have known.

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So, when these doctors, American Board of Internal Medicine, others said they're safe

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and effective, everybody take them, no one knew.

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This was what's called vaccine hubris.

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That is, people becoming overconfident in mankind's invention.

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We should have been much more humble to say, listen, we don't know if this is going to

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work or not.

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Everybody should have a free choice, evaluate the emerging risks and benefits.

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We should have had monthly safety meetings from the vaccine sponsors, the FDA and CDC.

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None of that happened.

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Basically, people were told to take it or lose their job.

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And many of them did.

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I'm talking to Dr. Peter McCullough.

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Doc, regarding the vaccine, I'm getting a bunch of questions now coming in via my social

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media.

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They want to know, in your professional opinion, if it's been, say, three years or so, two

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years, they've had a vaccine and they haven't actually felt any symptoms.

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Maybe they haven't had blood work or anything like that, but they haven't felt any symptoms,

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no noticeable change in their heart rate or anything like that.

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Are those people OK?

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Is there something they should be doing?

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I know you had mentioned natokinase.

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I actually have it on my desk.

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I take it every day.

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Is that still an avenue?

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What about lumbrokinase?

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Are there anti-inflammatories out there?

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If you are having issues with that, I'm not asking you to diagnose anyone specifically.

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I know they're not in front of you.

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But in general, does any of that stuff work?

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Well, let me tell you what I do in practice, is I do an analysis.

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I ask them, what shots did they take and when they took them?

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How many episodes of COVID, proven COVID, did they have?

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And then we measure antibodies on an extended-range assay to the spike protein, which is a proxy

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of how much spike protein exposure someone had.

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And then we run tests for autoimmunity, the ANA, the anticitrillative peptide and rheumatoid

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factor if there's skin or kidney symptoms.

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We measure ANCA, which is a more expensive test.

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We run several tests for heart damage, BMP, troponin, and collectin-3.

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But the point is, from taking a history, doing an EKG exam and some labs, we can size up

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if somebody's in trouble or not.

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Fortunately, the vast majority of people are fine.

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Sure, the longer you go from the shots with no side effects, statistically, less likely

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something's going to happen.

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But we have seen new blood clots and new complications arise, Dan, even three years after the shot.

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And you know what the wildcard is, is getting another episode of COVID because the vaccines

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don't work.

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You have a vaccinated person, they're loaded with spike protein, maybe they have a tendency

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towards blood clot, they get another episode of COVID, it's mild, but yet they end up with

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a blood clot.

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Now, I see that in practice frequently.

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Wow, that's pretty scary because, you know, you would think, I mean, call me crazy,

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Doc, but I'm a believer in these, you know, nutty things I learned about in biology 101,

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like natural immunity.

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You know, I'm not a doctor, but, you know, I'm pretty sure my freshman year biology teacher,

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Miss Lonergan, taught me that.

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The body's supposed to get better at defending against pathogens over time with persistent

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reinfection and not worse.

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Now, is there any truth to the story I hear running around out there that some people

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who get the vaccine actually may have some kind of imprinting problem and that they may

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be more likely to get COVID or is that just, you know, kind of an old wives tale making

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its way around the Internet?

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No, it's true, Dan.

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There was a study in Cleveland Clinic, over 51,000 Cleveland Clinic employees.

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With every successive shot, there's a higher risk they get COVID over and over again, probably

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because the immune system's being misdirected, they keep getting exposed to this vaccine

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spike protein.

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The body produces antibodies called IgG4, they're subclass switching to useless antibodies.

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It just sets up the body to actually take in more virus.

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It's called antibody-dependent enhancement.

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So, you know, the best advice we have is for people to lay off these shots.

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You're right, natokinase, bromelain, and curcumin, that's called McCulloch protocol-based spike

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detoxification, that's now become essentially a worldwide standard.

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We have one supportive paper for surreptase, we don't know about lumbricase.

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The principle is the body needs some assistance in enzymatically dissolving the spike protein

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and getting it out of the body.

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So I get a ton of questions about this, just to state again, you said bromelain, natokinase,

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and curcumin, is that the three?

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And those are all, just so we're clear, those are all over the counter, they've been available

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for years, natokinase is actually part of a fermented Japanese dish, it's nothing particularly

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exotic, but these things have shown some efficacy, if you do have some of these clots or clotting

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type problems, that they've shown some clinical efficacy?

5Speaker 5
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Well, we have two peer-reviewed papers, I'm a leader, senior author on them, laying out

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the rationale for this.

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For natokinase, we have several preclinical studies showing both intact cell and cell

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lifecycle models, nato definitely dissolves the spike.

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Bromelain, again, preclinical studies support doing this.

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Both of those are forms of blood thinners, which people need anyway, there's a tendency

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towards blood clotting, not blood thinning currently among everybody post-pandemic.

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And then curcumin, that's a derivative of turmeric, that's like an Indian spice, but

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in a capsule, that's gone all the way through clinical trials.

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And that improves multiple parameters of long COVID and vaccine injury syndrome.

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So I feel pretty strongly people should be on these three natural products, in combination,

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keeping caveats in mind regarding bleeding, and we use it in addition to blood thinners

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and aspirin, but with careful observation.

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And then slowly, probably over a year, people progressively improve.

1Speaker 1
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Yeah, and of course, folks, as Doc said, talk to your own doctor, we don't know what kind

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of medications you're on or anything like this, this is not medical advice for you.

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But in general, Doc, I have been taking those products long before COVID, at least two out

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of three.

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The natokinase is a recent addition for me, but having pretty severe osteoarthritis, curcumin

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is a pretty powerful anti-inflammatory.

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I choose not to be on prescription drugs, it's a personal choice I make.

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