The Dan Bongino Sunday Special 03/05/23 - TX State Sen. Bob Hall, Sen. JD Vance, Kimberly Guilfoye and Don Trump Jr., Steve Deace
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First up, today, we talk with Texas State Senator Bob Hall. This is a frightening but important interview about the real threat of an EMP attack. An.
Electromagnetic pulse attack.
This is a real threat China poses to us today. What would happen in that scenario? Don't miss this. When you're done, take precautions.
Take care of yourself before it's too late.
For those of you P1 listeners who have been around a while, whether it's the podcast or.
The radio show, You know, I've been very interested in the threat from an electromagnetic pulse EMP attack in the United States. It's a very real threat. Folks, it's the kind of thing again, goofy liberals will call it conspiracy theory. But I was looking around the internet for some show prep material. And I happened across my good friend. Grant Stinchfield, doing an interview with this gentleman, a state senator from Texas, and he was fascinating.
So I asked Jim and Mike to reach out and have him on the show and he was kind enough to.
Reply And he's here with us today. State Senator Bob Hall, Mr. Senator, appreciate your time. thanks for coming on.
Well, thanks Dan, I appreciate you having me on. I'm a big fan of yours.
Oh well, after your interview with Grant Stinchfield, we can consider that mutual.
You were, you were amazing. It was such a well-done interview.
And you seem to be very informed on a topic that really frightens me.
My prior line of work was spent preparing for things that were highly unlikely threats.
To make sure the president survived. And what I find so destructive and dangerous about an EMP attack, Senator Hall, is that it doesn't appear that our government's taken it as seriously as our enemies are. What is the real threat of this EMP attack? what's what's the threat level? What would it look like?
And, you know, can we recover from this if something like this were to happen?
You can take those one at a time.
OK, well, just let you know this is not a new subject that I took an interest in. My first exposure to this was when I was a junior captain in the Air Force. Working on the Minuteman Intercontinental Ballistic missile, I was the project officer assigned to harden the Minuteman missile against this threat in the late 60s. So I go back to an understanding, but more recently. And the big difference being what we were concerned about in those days was was in crippling our missile system.
We didn't really have much thought to electrical power, but today's society, electricity is the second most important thing to sustaining life. There'll be people live a long time, a lot longer, without food and water than it will without electricity. It is absolutely critical. White House study on it from the EMP Commission a couple of years back said that 11 months without electricity and we'll lose 90 percent of our population.
And so in the dire results, I mean, it is. It's about as bad as it gets with it. And and the delivery mechanisms are very wide. And it's not something that would take. It's not going to take an army. This is one of those threats that just a hand, a handful of people, a rogue nation, a group of ISIS, a dozen people or less, get their hands on. One small nuclear weapon mounted on the top of a medium range missile, launch it off the back of a cargo ship, get to get it to about 200 nautical miles above the central part of the United States.
I mean, that's like Nebraska, Kansas, South Dakota, anywhere in that range and detonated, and in in a fraction of a section. Second, anything electrical will be rendered totally useless and non repairable. And it didn't get much better or worse than that. And one of the things that concerned me lately is when I saw the weather balloon being.
Used right, right.
We used a weather balloon, it was called Project Yucca Y-u-c-c-A. You look it up on the internet. It was the first time we detonated a nuclear weapon high in the atmosphere. We launched it, got it up to about eighty five thousand feet and set it off and discovered this electromagnetic pulse that came off of it.
Now, because it was still in the atmosphere, it wasn't as big a pulse as what we got later. Four years later, when we were in the South Pacific, down on Kwajalein and launching a couple hundred nautical miles into space. In which the. Of course, you know, you get no kinetics from it at all, nothing blows up, nothing gets knocked down, no physical damage.
But the gamma rays of that thing impinge with the particles in the atmosphere, knocking their electrons loose, which interact with the Earth's magnetic field. And, in a fraction of a second, induce a large current two thousand volts per meter in anything metal or electrical, and renders them absolutely broken by burned anything.
So, State Senator Bob Hall, we're talking about cell phones, car batteries, computers. Anything with circuitry in it is fried.
That is correct, anything so so you'll have no pumps to run water now. The one thing that would probably survive are automobiles that were manufactured before about nineteen seventy four. That have, if anybody knows what I'm talking about, points and condensers in them.
Those are the Cubans, so, State Senator, the Cubans will be OK because they're driving around in nineteen fifty. It's a horrible joke, but it's probably true. They'd probably be the only ones who had cars. Why is that?
Why would the older cars survive?
Oh, because, because the the elect. The. The electronics in them are not nearly as vulnerable as the computers that we need and the electronic ignition systems there, they're a bit more then. It's like the same phenomenon we had when we first discovered the threat. The Russians were impervious to this threat with their missiles. And during during Mad. During the time period when we had mutually assured destruction. Because we were technologically ahead of the Russians, we used integrated circuits in our computers on the missile for guidance.
They use vacuum tubes, and the vacuum tubes were impervious to to electromagnetic pulse. So there were some, some things like that of have a kind of a unique characteristic to them that they are likely to survive. But but all of what we have today are the integrated circuits. They can't, cannot stand much in the way of current, and so they will be burned up.
We're talking a state senator from the great state of Texas, Bob Hall. Generous enough.
To come on today, Senator, this sounds to me, I'm just what am I?
I'm just, you know, a dumb former kid from Queens.
What do I know? This kind of sounds like the apocalypse, kind of sounds like it's a really important thing. Like, you know, wiping out 90 percent of humanity and stuff. It sounds like a big deal. You probably agree. Sounds like the kind of thing government would be concerned about, you know? Rather than studying the speckled toad, snoot or whatever in the Delta smelt.
Is the government actually doing anything about this? I mean, I know you're, you're, you're in, you're in Texas. You are a government official, though, and you seem very interested in the matter. Is anyone in the federal government concerned about this?
Like you and I are not now. Trump was. Trump put out several executive orders directing each of the agencies to take actions to prepare to defend against an EMP pulse. And one of the first things Biden did was to rescind those orders.
One of the other, come on, you please tell me you're kidding, like, is that a joke that's got?
Why would he do that?
They don't, don't ask me to try to explain anything.
Yeah, yeah, sure, that's unfair.
Good, good point, but. But we also had an executive order to stop importing our our high voltage transformers from China. We've already found that they have malware in them. They're. They're one of the few places you can even get one built today, and they take about 36 months to get.
And they're very heavyweight, several thousand pounds as well. All of this is described in a documentary that recently came out called Grid Down, Power Up, and folks can watch that at Grid Down Power Up Dot com. It's a narrated Dennis Quaid as 55 minutes long. And it covers the threat and what the potential damage could be. As well as some discussion about what we know we could be doing today.
What can we be doing?
Well, what can we as individuals do, considering our government is so grotesquely inept and incompetent?
Well, the front end is is it will be. The people will be the best off with the preppers. Because we will go through a period no matter what we end up doing, where we will be. Without power and getting it restored, no matter what we do to try to protect it, we'll never have it. So the lights don't go out for some period of time.
It's that recovery that we have to be able to put it all back together again. But be prepared to take care of your family with with medicines, with food, with water and anything that's critical to your particular way of maintaining life. And then our power companies here in Texas. And for those that don't know it. We have three grid systems in America there's the eastern Grid, the western grid, and then Texas has its own grid, isolated from the rest of the country.
That was done many years ago, so we can step up here in Texas and actually start the process of protecting our grid. We have a power company, one power company down in Houston, Centerpoint, that has actually taken some steps to start saying, well, let's see what we can do. They designed and built a A A hardened sub control center a couple of years back. it only cost about 10 percent more than not being hardened.
And this last year, one of their really clever engineers designed a substation using new technology and was a that is hardened hardened to military specs. The 2000 volts per meter and and they they got that have that in production at 25 percent the cost of what they'd been doing for years in a substation. So those are just two steps that when when people, the Americans are smart, then you know that you give them a problem.
Yeah, we are our government's stupid.
Americans are very smart.
Yeah, and they will figure out what to do, and that's all we need to do, and that's. I've had the bill here, I've managed to get it out of the Senate multiple times, but it never makes it out of our house.
The power companies, who spend a tremendous amount of money lobbying against this, managed to kill it. But I think this time we just might have a chance to get that all the way to the governor's desk to. Because what we're going to do here in Texas is put together a commission, an EMP protection commission, for the state to start defining what needs to be done. Not only to the power for the power companies, but for our critical infrastructure, our sewer, our water, our communications, our emergency services, etc. They all have to take actions. And and what I expect as we come up with solutions for the power companies, there will be scalable for industry, for large industry and small businesses, and and residential the.
The protection devices that they will develop will be scalable so that people can get down and we start actually protecting the houses, the homes.
My gosh, you're fascinating. My only regret is these radio segments are sure I got to have you on my podcast. We can just talk forever with no rules.
I got a couple, I got about two minutes left. STATE SENATOR BOB HALL Really, you're like, blowing my mind right now. Let me just walk you through a scenario. So say, I live down in South Florida. One of another one of these Chinese weather balloons floats over here with an emp.
God forbid, it goes off. I live about 12 miles from a nuclear facility in Fort Pierce, you know, those, those cooling rods, electricity operates, a lot of that. Is there potential that, I mean, there could be, you know, nuclear? I mean waste facilities, dumping wastewater into the oceans. Nuclear facilities wouldn't be cooled. I mean, this is, I mean, quite literally, apocalyptic type stuff, right?
Yes, it is, I mean, you're absolutely right, and I mean, it is, it is. So, you know, it is so extreme that I think most people just mind shut down when I talk about the threat. And so this time around, I've really been spending more trying to emphasize that we just we just need to get on with doing something about it.
Quit worrying about how, how, how catastrophic it is, because I think people, just their minds. I can't handle thinking about this. I'm going to go do something else. But and we got to stop that, we've got to take action to to start protecting it because it is so real.
I mean, think about this, Dan, I'll try to make this real quick. The Chinese, we know that they have a food problem, we know that they can't. They don't have enough farmland to take care of what their population is growing in.
Right, nuclear exchange is not going to make going to produce anything useful with the United States. we have nuclear exchanges and we're radioactive. You couldn't use this land for a long time, but you think about this one EmP takes out our electrical system.
Ninety percent of our population is going to be dead, our military is going to be totally inoperable because they are not prepared to fight in a in a, in that kind of environment. And the Chinese walk in here, you know? Nine months later, to the most fertile farm.
Land in the world. That's exactly what I did my show on on Friday. I think I got to run a state center. Hang one second, about 20 seconds left.
But that was my point on my Friday podcast, What would a Chinese invasion look like? People think it would look like Red Dawn, you know, paratroopers from the sky. No, it would look like an EMP attack. I'll just waltz right in.
There'll be nobody, there'll be nobody here anyway. Be like walking through an empty forest. Sir, you are fascinating. We're going to talk again, either on the Fox Show or the podcast.
If you're up for it, we can chat a little more. But what an amazing interview. We'll definitely have you back on the radio show. I really, really appreciate your time.
What was that movie? Again, people can watch a documentary down.
Power up dot com all spelled out grid down power up dot com.
And thank you, I'm willing to talk about this any, any time, anywhere.
Because people are going to take you up on that offer, believe me, I got to run. State Senator Bob Hall, thanks so much for your time.
That was awesome in a scary kind of way. Thanks a lot there.
God bless you.
Wow, you got it, man. What an interview Jim. Throw that on a weekend interview show. I'm going to get him on either the Fox Show or the podcast.
We need to talk to him longer. Folks, we all need to wake up. This is real, this isn't some HBO Max special, it's a very real threat.
That was Texas State Senator Bob Hall on that extremely important topic.
Up next, we talk to Ohio Senator J..D. Vance about everything that's going on in East Palestine, Ohio, and the dreadful government response.
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Here's Senator J.
D. Vance.
He was on the ground over there. In East Palestine, those residents have been subjected to really awful government response from them. It's just terrible what's happening there. The dereliction of duty by the Biden administration.
Folks, just pathetic these liberals, they love government. And I'm not supposed to be going off on rants during these interview shows, but I just can't help it sometimes. So Mr.
A guy who I supported, vigorously supported.
Because I think he's going to be a real agent for change and really gets the plight of the working class man in America. He's written about it. He ran on that senator, it's great to call him that Senator J..D. Vance from Ohio.
Senator, welcome to the show.
Dan appreciate you having me.
Always good to have you, sir, and it feels great calling you senator. I think you're one of the few guys up there who actually gets it, having walked through the socioeconomic ladder yourself.
So you've been on the ground, unlike, unfortunately.
Many members of the Biden administration in Ohio with this disaster in Palestine.
What's it like on the ground? what are the conditions over there now? is it safe and what are you hearing from the residents?
You know, it's safe in the short term. I mean, nobody's like, you know, drop a dead, and that's obviously a very good thing. But if you talk to residents, what they're most worried about, Dan, is the chronic exposure issue. And this is what, you know, our federal agencies, Norfolk, Southern, really, nobody is set up to monitor what happens to people over a two-year period, a five-year period. When they're breathing, you know, the air, and, I think most importantly, drinking the water.
A couple of other things that are worth thinking about here, so one is that a lot of people in East Palestine are in private well water. And if you think about how long it takes chemical to seep from the ground into these private wells. You know, these things are going to need to be tested and monitored for months and years to come. And there's this instinct, I think, from a lot of our leaders to say, well, look, if we get one positive test result with the water, we should pack up and go home. And that's not where the residents of East Palestine are.
They're terrified that after people pack up and go home, after they're forgotten, their water is going to become undrinkable and nobody's going to be there to monitor it. The second thing, Dan, is, think about all the small businesses, the farmers. I talked to a woman when I was up there just a couple of days ago with Donald Trump, who said, Look, nobody wants to buy hay for my farm. Nobody wants to buy eggs that were laid by my chickens. So these people have had their local economy devastated by this.
And there needs to be a response to that. I mean, this is not a huge amount of money, we're talking about a community of 5,000 people, plus those who live in the surrounding area. If we can send $120 billion to Ukraine, we can make sure East Palestine thrives in the future. And that's one of the things I'm going to be focusing on.
I'm talking to Senator J.
D Vance, from Ohio, who's been on the ground from the beginning.
You know, senator, this is a tragedy.
And sincerely, I'm not looking to make political hay out of it.
Matter of fact, I said, whether you agree with him or not, I think it was good that Reagan, the EPA administrator, was there. Whether you agree with him or not is fine. But at least he showed up early. But Joe Biden doesn't seem to feel it's necessary, and that part kind of puzzles me.
Is it just an out-of-touch elitism, is it just he's surrounded by poor political operatives? To show up in Kiev, Ukraine, with a fake air siren event for a photo op in Ukraine? Before showing up in your own country with working-class people who built this place. And to at least recognize the disaster and hug a few people and shake some hands. I mean, it just seems like, you know, I think it was Ben Dominic on Fox last night, senator, who said like, this is just an easy win for Republicans. Like, he just handed, not that I want the win, but he just handed it to him.
It was just so stupid.
Yeah, it's preposterous. STAN I mean, look, I can't think of anything more embarrassing than the president of the United States doing a fake air raid. Siren photo op in Ukraine when he's the leader of the most powerful country in the world. But look, I worry here, and I hope that this is not the right explanation. But I really worry, Dan, that Joe Biden has shown no urgency about East Palestine because he knows that this is not his group of voters. And you know, if you just think about what the Democrats have done in the last couple of years. How much they've gone after pro-life activists, how much they've used the I.R.S to target people that they disagree with. They've really taken a friend-versus-enemy approach to politics, where if you didn't support these guys, they're not going to do anything for you.
The constitution be damned. And unfortunately, the folks of East Palestine find themselves politically. They're considered inconvenient people to the modern Democratic Party, and so they're not going to pay a lot of attention to them. I will say, I think that we've actually gotten the Biden administration to finally wake up and pay attention. From Pete Buttigieg to the EPA, these guys were ignoring the problem, I think, for a long time, and now they are, you know, especially the EPA, I got to say, is much more engaged in this than they were two weeks ago.
Yeah, and like I said on my show, and my listeners know it.
They've heard it, they've heard me say it.
At least administrator Reagan's been on the ground, may not agree with him, may not trust him. Fair enough, I mean, EPA said a lot of things at the 9-11 site, but they're there and that's a first step, and that's fine. But you brought up an interesting point before I wanted to readdress with you that, yeah, I mean, this is a relatively small town. And you know, we just sent what another tranche of $100 million-plus to Ukraine, we're $40-plus billion in.
You know, their real estate, Senator Vance is finished. I mean, buy their wheat, buy their chickens. who's going to want to buy their house? Oh yeah, let me buy your house in East Palestine, it's over for them.
These people, their equity, their lives, their jobs, have been entirely nuked. And they did absolutely nothing wrong. They didn't bomb the train, they didn't sabotage the train, they weren't responsible for the maintenance of the train.
They don't even own the train.
And it's up to Norfolk and the government to do the right thing by our people instead of prioritizing people overseas first.
This is such an important point. Dan I totally agree. Look, the people of East Palestine think about this is their home, right? This is where they raise their children.
This is where they saw their sons and daughters get married. They do not want to give up on their community. And I think that it's going to require long-term investment from Norfolk Southern and from our leadership to not let this community fall behind. You're exactly right. Homes are underwater.
People are worried about how they're going to feed their kids if they can't even afford their mortgage payment on an underwater home. I mean, this is really a terrifying situation if you're a resident here. And I think this point about they did nothing wrong, they did not invite this upon themselves. This was a catastrophic chemical accident.
Norfolk Southern is at fault. I think the federal government bears some responsibility here and we have got to make sure that we don't leave this community behind. When I talk to people on the ground, Dan, the biggest fear that they have is that. In a couple of weeks, when the cameras go home and the politicians aren't focused on East Palestine, their community is going to become effectively a ghost town. We cannot let this happen.
We cannot let another community of working class people who did nothing wrong be abandoned by their leadership. And that's what I'm going to be focusing on, not just for the next couple of weeks, because it's going to take much longer than that.
Well, senator, this isn't like a Johnny Come lately thing for you either.
I mean, you literally wrote books on this, about the abandonment and the hollowing out of middle class communities in America. I mean, folks, you can just look him up on the internet and read his work, he's not new to this.
But one of the things that worries me.
As a guy who had cancer, I don't call myself a survivor. It's not like I did anything. Medicine helped me, I didn't tough it out or anything, Medicine helped me.
But having had cancer, the worst part about it, senator?
Is the fear?
But you're never done with it, there's no cure for it.
There's treatments.
And I know Chip Roy had the same condition. And when you're done, basically, they just tell you, Yeah, we're going to have to watch you.
For the rest of your life.
So I can certainly sympathize with the people in Palestine who are being told. Oh, like you said, yeah, the well's OK today, and they're thinking like, Well, OK, well, is it going to be OK next year? I mean, what if there's a pile of this stuff, vinyl chloride in a dirt pile and there's a rainstorm and it leaches into my well?
And my kids are drinking poisonous vinyl chloride. I mean, the fear they have to live with the rest of their lives, the stress of that alone is really horrifying.
No, that's exactly right. I'm asked a lot of times by the media and by others, what do you think about the water? and I always say, Look, it doesn't matter what I think about the water. I live in Cincinnati, Ohio, about four hours away from East Palestine. If I drink the water today, then that's one thing.
But these people are going to have to drink the water for the next five years, every single day, for the next 10 years. And again, when I talk to them, that's their big fear. It's not that they're going to drink the water and drop dead, it's that their kids are going to drink the water for 10 years and get some rare form of cancer. So we have to give these people reassurance.
And the way to give them reassurance is to take their complaints seriously. Test this stuff, make sure the air and the water is as clean as possible. Force Norfolk Southern to clean up this chemical spill. Which, by the way, Dan, they still haven't done. You do not give people reassurance by standing there before them and telling them that they're stupid.
They should listen to the tests that have been done and they should just go ahead and drink the water and breathe the air. People don't trust experts, they don't trust authorities, and I got to say, Dan, after the last couple of years, I don't trust the experts.
And I don't trust the authorities either. So we've got to just listen to people, treat them as citizens and not children. And that's what I'm going to work hard to make sure that we do.
We're talking to Senator J.
D Vance Last question, I'll let you go. You've been generous with your time.
Senator, the point you just made is an accurate one. I think the last two years have done Yeoman's work, let's say, in absolutely decimating the faith, people.
Have in public health institutions.
Whether it was a lockdown that destroyed their kids academic careers, that destroyed their mental health, telling people a vaccine was going.
To stop the spread of Covid when in fact.
The evidence proves it does not do that. Whether it was masks are going to somehow, magically, be a talisman against Covid and mocking people.
For suggesting otherwise.
I mean, faith in public health institutions is really decimated. And I think that's why what you just said is so important that it's critical for the government. I think for the first time in a long time, Biden, Buttigieg, Reagan, all of them on the ground to eat a doughnut, a humble pie, to sit down and listen. And take the cotton out of their ears and stick it in their mouth for once, and listen to what hardworking dirt under the fingernails. American citizens in Palestine, Ohio, have to say their concerns, address them, and just be honest for once, the American people are very forgiving. If you make a mistake, just admit it. But the last two years have not engendered a spirit of trust in the government, that's for sure.
Yeah, that's exactly right, Dan. And I think that our public authorities should take the attitude of. They need to rebuild trust over the next couple of years, over the next five years, and not demand subservience and demand loyalty. These people do not, they have not earned the level of trust that they expect the people to have. They've got to rebuild this because, look, you need. I mean, government has, in my view, a limited but an important role here. It has got to make sure that people's air and water is clean.
And if you have people who justifiably don't trust their own leadership, the government of their own country. You can't have any kind of proper response to a public health crisis like this. So this is an important thing, Dan, let me just say this, when you do what they did over Covid and you destroy the public faith in what you've been doing. The consequences? When you've got a real crisis, people aren't going to listen to you, so they've got to rebuild trust here.
And again, the way that they can do it is by listening to people. It's not rocket science, it's just about eating, like you said, the mumble pie.
Yeah, senator, one quick thing. President Trump was here the other day, you were there. What was the reception like?
Look, man, Trump probably won East Palestine three to one. People were thrilled to have him. I think the president, not just for moral support, which, of course, is important, but I think the president really shone a light on the community. And you saw some action from FEMA and other federal authorities, almost in response to President Trump coming to town.
So I think it actually had tangible results for the people on the ground. But they just need to feel like their leaders care about them, and I think President Trump, showing up did exactly that.
Wow, yes, sir, I know you do. You were there. you were there from the start.
I know President Trump does, I certainly do. We've been focused on this story like a laser, and I promise you, we're not going to let it go. Senator J..D. Vance, thanks a lot for your time.
We appreciate it.
Take care Dave.
You got it, he's one of the good guys folks. I was proud to support him. Now you see why, and trust me, he is not some Johnny.
Come lately to this, read his work in Hillbilly Elegy and all his work and all of his appearances on media. Talking about the hollowing out of the American middle class, exporting of our jobs overseas, the destruction of industrial towns. It's the kind of stuff he's lived his life, that's why I support him. It's one thing to talk about.
It's one thing to grow up in it and know about it because you lived it from personal experience. That was Senator J..D. Vance.
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Here's Kimberly Guilfoyle talking about her new podcast On Rumble. You should check it out.
And an unexpected visit from Don Trump Jr. That was a wild interview. Check it out.
You know, it's practically a mortal sin.
I mean, we should be sent Jim, you especially straight to hell immediately for not having Kim Guilfoyle on the show before. I mean, immediately, right to hell, like tomorrow.
How did we manage to miss that? I mean, she's one of the best. Get your back in your bag. I'm kidding, folks, we love Jim, obviously.
I do want to welcome to the show, however, shamefully for the first time. Kim Guilfoyle Kim, how you haven't been on this show before?
Is a national disgrace and I should be fired tomorrow.
It actually really is. Thank you for acknowledging that. I mean, we're like best friends and so I don't know what the heck happened here, but we're reunited. It's a disgrace.
We are, we are.
See, everybody loves Kim now, you know why? She's a truth teller. Everybody knows her, She's launching a new show.
I am incredibly stoked about the Kim Guilfoyle show on Rumble. Everybody's been dying to get a piece of Kim Guilfoyle's content. And finally, Rumble, we've got you. You're doing the show. Tell us about the show.
How are you going to handle it? how's it going to work? is it going to be interview stuff? News of the day, and you know what we can look forward to coming forward from the show.
Absolutely well again, thank you for having me on, Dan, you know? We've worked together for a long time and I really admire what you've been able to do with your show on Rumble, with your radio show. And it's really about being that free, uncensored voice, exercising our First Amendment rights. To be able to get out there in the marketplace of ideas, tell people what we think and feel. And more than ever, and you know this, having worked in the industry as well, it's just outrageous.
The mainstream media is literally just the fake news media. They don't even pretend to try to do the job and bring you the facts, the evidence, the truth about what's going on there. So I want to have a really collaborative relationship with, you know, the viewers and the listeners, and do the stories that they want to hear about. But I am going to do news of the day. And, you know, like, two of the shows that I co-founded at Fox, like The Five and Outnumbered, cover a variety of subject matters. Whether it's, you know, politics, you know, obviously start out with that, what's going on in D.C, what's going on with Biden administration, et cetera.
Also, I'll talk about law, I'm going to talk about entertainment, pop culture, wherever the stories take me. I have obviously a tremendous amount of experience over years of covering all the different legal cases out there, working from court. TV before, ABC News, Fox News, CNN before it went full commie when I used to do Larry King. And it's been great, quite frankly, for these past few years, traveling the country with Donald Trump Jr. and meeting people literally in every single state.
So I feel really connected. Television, journalism experience and then real people experience about the hardworking men and women out there in this country and what matters to them most. And I want to be a part of that amplification of their voice, and I want to encourage other people to be on this. I love, you know, Rumble. We were just there at the grand opening, you know? The ribbon cutting for the headquarters was fantastic, with our fearless leader, the CEO. You know, Chris Pavlosky, we missed you there, but you were there in spirit.
And I like your conference room, the Dan Bongino boardroom, by the way, you like that.
I know they sent me that, oh, that was so cool. So we were talking to Kim Guilfoyle, host of the show. You should be checking out and following and subscribing.
It is free immediately at rumble.
If you can, I respectfully request.
You do it. The Kim Guilfoyle show Come on, Pay G for free. Okay, I mean, come on, don't worry, I only make junior pay for it.
You've, never, you've.
Listen, in case you haven't listened to my show.
Oh, he's here, he's so jealous.
Is he? is he jelly?
He's trying to bum rush my interview with you, look at this guy.
Hey, don you know? Listen, we love you too. I mean, you two are like, you're like the power couple in conservative politics. I mean, you got Don on by the way, folks. We're doing the interview with Kim, obviously, but Don has a show on rumble too. That's gone like bat Guano crazy.
He's looking for a free promotion right now? Ask Donald Trump Jr. He's like, I'm here to make sure you plug my show, Princess.
It did one. It's like, I, obviously, I'm an, you all know, I'm an equity holder at Rumble, so I watch everything that happens at Rumble. And we, of course, you have big expectations for Don Jr. like we do for Kim. But the show went crazy. To the point where I'm calling up Chris, the CEO and I'm like, Hey man, I'm not so sure I'm like the king of rumble anymore and like, I'm an equity holder. Like, look at Don, like, Don's show went crazy, too.
So you guys are gonna just go crazy.
So basically, Don Jr. is just gonna make you richer, okay?
I know he is and we love him.
So we're fighting for the same cause and we need that freedom of speech out there. Because, you know, as you see this week, Dan, with the Wuhan Lab leak theory, the most plausible and common sense argument ever, the media went full bat, like how they have no credibility anymore. Like, you're gonna actually be able to get real news from people like myself, Kim, yourself, people who've been in the theater, people who've been in the room. People can see through the nonsense and the lies and actually talk about it and guess what, you won't have to wait three years to find out what probably happened.
Don, it's so hilarious. We played the Jon Stewart thing before from the Colbert Show, Stephen Colbert. I refuse to call him Colbert, Colbert Show. It was a freaking virus, coronavirus, that originated in Wuhan.
Where there was a lab in Wuhan.
With a bat lady.
That studied freaking coronaviruses, and it's like.
The media Do you guys have any dignity, bro? I mean, I know your family has been on the receiving end of some of their hilarious BS collusion. Peepee tapes, laptop stuff. I get it. But even you at this point, you gotta be like, how do liberals keep taking it? how do they keep taking it like Bohega?
The amount of cope out there right now with this stuff is insane. The real problem, though, Dan, is that they're getting what they want because all of this stuff has been weaponized for results. They were able to manipulate an election that way. Same with Hunter Biden laptop last week. You know, they haven't gotten anything, right?
And yet they continue to get the results that they're essentially lobbying for and spending big money to achieve, right? I mean, if this was a Republican institution like the media doing it for Republicans. There would be a Federal Election Commission investigation into the free money and the handouts and the contributions in kind, et cetera. So we got to keep pushing back. And that's why I love the success of all of our shows, because it means that people have finally had enough, they're finally getting it.
And I think there's a long runway for people who still, you know, are just now realizing that they've been lied to for years. It didn't just start with Trump, but Trump derangement Syndrome brought it out.
Absolutely.
Yeah, no, I agree.
And the thing is here is that I love rumble. Because they have all different viewpoints. It's like, we're not hypocrites here, you know, we have our beliefs and our beliefs, but I want other voices on there. And we were with Russell, you know, and we had a good time with him and he was fantastic. We have different viewpoints.
We agree on some of the stuff. Yeah, Russell's a pretty liberal guy, he is, he is.
We don't agree on almost anything politically, other than maybe the Big War and probably the media lies. But like, we were able to still have fun and have a discussion, have a conversation, right? Crazy, isn't it? Nuts like we don't all have to think.
Like, freaking robots. That's what I love about the company, and that's why I found, I think, what you Don and Kim find attractive about rumble. And streaming's the future, by the way, it's just the way it is. It's going to be the entire consumer content video on demand in the future.
So you guys are way ahead of it and you can see by the views that you are going to have with your show launch. And Don is already built. Now we're talking to Kim Guilfoyle, host of the new show on Rumble, The Kim Guilfoyle Show.
But the thing is like rumble from day one. What I admired about Chris is he was like, liberals, please come over, like, it's glorious to watch you guys come over, and just if what you say is crazy.
It's even better.
Because then Kim Guilfoyle goes on her show and gets to say, Hey, I heard this lunatic say this on rumble.
Right, like we want them.
But they don't want the same from us, they want to put the boss, your dad, Don, in prison. They want anyone with your last name or even associated with you. In a freaking gulag in North Korea, these people are freaking filth, man. If it wasn't an FCC rule, I'd drop an f-bomb right now because they piss me off, bro.
I'm getting tired of this crap. And that's why people like us have to go to rumble. Where nobody's shutting us up or telling us what to say. Or when to say it and say what the we think, and when we think it, and when we...?
I'm just throwing stuff now.
If you're watching on Fox News, by the way, when I'm on my show.
And I'm cursing, someone told my dad. he's like, you can't do that. I was like, I'm on rumble.
I do it whenever I want.
He was yelling at me, so now I gotta be like, stop showing my dad the clips.
Is that hysterical? They're like telling on Don.
Daddy, don be sad, I'm right. It's hysterical.
He's misbehaving again. I'm like, I don't know. I've done that pretty well for myself by misbehaving and being willing to call out the BS.
And, you know, and President Trump loves rumble, he's always tell us he absolutely loves it. And then he called me and he's like, You know, honey, honey, I was watching Don, the show's fantastic. You got to tell him to stop moving his hand.
So it was good, and then he called me the next day. Did you tell him, Honey, otherwise it's good?
It's so funny, so he's like, don's coach now.
Yeah, dad, he wants me to move my hands. I asked how much less he goes? 95 less.
I go wait, wait.
Don I have the same problem?
Currently, doing is right. I got to cut it down by 20x is basically what you're saying. I was like, Wow, that's a lot.
I have the same issue, Don, it's an Italian thing. In my case, I move my hands. I get really excited. I had this like hernia surgery last week and I think I just blew another one. Getting so pissed off about all the stuff these people have pulled.
But, you know, dad's back in the race, I think the trip, which I assume you guys eventually are going to.
I mean, obviously cover the campaign and you've got a field.
Growing of candidates right now. But your dad, I think, pulled off a genius move. That trip to East Palestine, Ohio, which just made the Biden administration look totally feckless, like they had a George Costanza shrinkage problem, was just glorious, right?
You mean, feckless, like they actually are, Dan?
Yes, yeah.
But don the foil, though, the foil effect, though.
Of having your dad there, right looking? Presidential motorcade pulls up. People are screaming, Oh, thank you for coming. I played the audio. it's not some joke, conspiracy theory. I played the audio.
And then there's this loser cosplaying Pete Buttigieg the next day in his fake construction uniform. The foil effect of the two was just so profound that I think people were like, Gosh, who is like the real president right now? It was a really good move.
Real leaders step up when it matters most. Who was presidential, who showed up like he always has? He doesn't have to be in the White House to show up and do the right thing.
That's who the man is, and I think people really saw that. I mean, maybe they're just sabotaging Joe Biden because he's so pathetic, the whole deep state's against him, they don't want him to run.
They're like, whatever you do, don't go to Ohio, like, I mean, it's insane. He should know that.
Do you think he runs again? Do you think he runs again? because? listen.
Ultimately, I don't know if he's going to be able to make it that far. I think they're going to take him out like they did with the document stuff. I don't think any of this stuff is a coincidence. I think they're going to just like, weaken him enough because they know that he can't make it across the finish line.
And listen, we know about the shenanigans and we get it. But even then, like, there was just this, we had this unique. Almost once in a lifetime pandemic, you had the full array of media, money, people and swampies. After the boss. I mean, it was. That's not going to happen again. So as this thing plays out, if it winds up becoming part two, I don't see how this.
How Biden stands a chance this time.
I'm sorry, I only got about a minute left. We're talking to Kim Guilford.
Either Biden or Harris.
But we got it, we got to fix, you know, we got to start ballot harvesting like they do, right. I mean, the reality is, right now, you could run the most competent human being in the world against Joe Biden or any one of the left.
And, you know, guys like John Fetterman still win Senate seats in Pennsylvania.
You need to get Pennsylvania.
Don I've been saying it?
You can do a better job. It's because Don.
Maybe they'll listen to you.
That we're way behind on.
Maybe they'll listen to you. I got a minute left. I want to make sure I get plugs into the shows, but maybe they'll listen to you other than me.
Follow us, please, me and Junior over here, like they're following you, please. OK, that's my.
This is the most like. This is the most bananas interview I've ever done because there's too much energy you got. Don me and Kim Guilfoyle. We're like all 9000 rpm talkers. This is the you can't have us on here.
That radios are exploding all over America right now. This is too much MAGA force energy.
I didn't expect Don to join. We're going to do a thruple on our podcast live.
Let's do it. I am totally down, totally down, man, I am going to do it all right. Here's the.
You got triggered with Don Junior on rumble. Please go follow the show today, you got Kim Guilfoyle. this show is going to be awesome. You know her?
You love her? Go sign up, it is free. follow today. make sure you watch it guys.
I got to run. You're both welcome back, as you know, it is an open invite. Anytime I'll see you guys take care.
See you all later.
That was awesome. I don't even know what. There are radios on fire right now all across phones, people's Bluetooth are melting in their ears, they can't get them out.
They're plugging them out with ice picks right now. That was so much Magnaforce energy, even I couldn't get dated. I do love those two, though.
Please subscribe to the show Don's Show is going crazy. Kim's going to be nuts rumble Kim Guilfoyle.
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There's a lot here, please listen.
Yes, here he is all right. One of my favorite guests is back, a extremely talented radio host in his own right.
He's been at this game.
A lot longer than me.
My good friend Steve Dace.
Steve, welcome back to the show.
Always good to talk to you brother, thank you very much.
Of course, Steve Dace is the author of a book you probably should pick up today.
If you can.
It's called Rise of the Fourth Reich. If you want to know about the global New world Order Covid introduced. Whatever you'd like to call it, whatever euphemism Klaus Schwab calls it, then you probably want to pick the book up.
Rise of the Fourth Reich. We'll be talking about that.
But see, before we get to that, you know what before you came on?
I was addressing the tragedy going on in Palestine, Ohio.
Which no one seems to care about.
Because it's middle class, working American citizens.
And there's no social justice cause involved, and it's kind of strange, like the lying about it. I mean, you're very familiar with leftist propaganda.
You've been on the radio longer than me.
But this is just blatant lies. Oh, Trump repealed a braking rule and Trump did it. And then we find out that this train wasn't even categorized as one of those trains that would have had these brakes anyway. It's like, this is like Soviet style stuff.
I mean, we're in a new era of propaganda now.
We are, but at least Greta Thunberg made her way to one of the worst. I'm sorry, never mind, but your point stands, Dan. I mean, the social compact is broken, and that is really the essence of what a Constitution enumerates and quantifies.
But a Constitution is the codification of your own social compact. Meaning we won't do these things to each other. Government won't do these things to us. We won't ask government to do these things for us. That's what a Constitution is the enumeration of. Is that social compact?
And it's broken in the country now. And so when you no longer want to live with people, you treat them like this. There's that level of disdain, that level of dishonesty, and, frankly, the lie is the point. You take joy in reminding them of how much you disdain them, and by lying all the more and gaslighting them all the more to their faces.
And that's why you hear people talk about things like national divorce. Because they can see the writing on the wall. That a large part of this country doesn't want to live with the rest of us anymore, unless we want to live their way.
Yes, gosh, you're so good at this, so we're talking to Steve Dace.
Author of the book The Rise of the Fourth Reich.
Yes, brother Steve, man, preach it that the lie is the point. You're. So I say it, I've heard Matt Walsh say it, I've heard Tucker say it.
It's not about hypocrisy.
It's about hierarchy.
It's we're collectivists, we're totalitarians, we have the power kiss our asses.
You don't, we're going to tell you something falsifiable on its face with five seconds of research, and we give exactly zero that. You know it like, we just don't care, like, you're so right, like the Baghdad bob.
Portion of it is the point.
Can I make this a personal example? For just a moment? OK, of course. So last night, the New York Times bestseller list comes out. Our book Rise of the Fourth. Reich has, according to Bookscan, was the number seven selling nonfiction book hardcover nonfiction book in the country. Greta Thunberg is not in the top 20..
Both of our books were released on the same day, her Climate Book and Rise of the Fourth Reich. All right, we sold 148 more books in our category than she did. We're 500 spots, not five, 500 spots higher than her on Amazon.
Guess which one of us made the New York Times bestseller list Stan?
I'm going to take a stab at it. Jim, would you say? Jim's saying Greta Thunberg? And I'm going to agree. It's a wild guess.
Oh, good, good.
Crazy, just how I got that right.
Just nuts.
Yeah, Greta Thunberg was. Greta Thunberg actually has our spot. She's number seven on the New York Times bestseller list, which is where we belong, she has our spot. Even though we sold, it's objectively provable. Just log into BooksCan see how many books got sold. We sold 148 more than hers. But she fits the agenda.
So she gets the spot. The lie is the point.
Yeah, they'll say it's bulk sales, Steve.
That's what they did to me.
I sold 100,000 copies of a book. Fox Nation bought 100 copies for the original Patriot Awards. They said, Yeah, we didn't put you on the list because of bulk sales. really. 100 books out of 100,000??
That's a weird fraction, you guys figured out, but I forget those idiots. So you made a point earlier that I just want to kind of harp on.
And then we'll get to your book.
That these are fundamentally.
Unserious people leading us in the social compact.
A contract is broken.
It is, it's eviscerated.
It's destroyed. I mean, Steve, we're walking backwards into World War III.
We have China colluding with Russia right now, we have nuclear threats.
Granted, it's a low probability event, but a low probability event. With nuclear annihilation as the output is something we should be concerned about, these Black Swan events. And yet, oddly enough, there's no concern about our out-of-control debt, there's no concern about our bankrupt social security. I mean, any major problem does not have any serious solution. World War III, bankrupt social Security, Medicare, the red tidal wave of debt.
There's not a single solution being proposed by almost any person in D.
C And when Rick Scott even dared to mention it, even Republicans attacked him. That's how much, that's the level of goon we have in D..C. right now.
Well, we had Mitch McConnell wearing his Ukraine flag tie a few days ago, saying The most important story in the world to dark is your crime. OK, So I mean, these people hate you, everybody within the sound of my voice. Right now, Washington is district one in the Hunger Games. The media is Cesar Flickerman.
All right, these people hate you, they despise you, they look forward to pointing that out, they look forward to rubbing your nose in it.
They look forward to reminding you that they're in charge and not you. And and that's why there is so much frustration in the country today. Dan there, and they will absolutely spark. This is such a replay of the lead up to World War One, a pissing contest of elites within the Habsburg Dynasty, a family dispute.
Literally 20 million people literally died for nothing. Dan nothing. There was no great principle. Western civilization wouldn't have been altered in any way, shape or form. If the Kaisers had won the side, the Kaiser side of the Habsburgs had won instead of the Victorian side, nothing would have changed.
And if anything, we might not have had World War Two, the far worse conflict might not have ever occurred. But they just couldn't stay on all of that technology and weapons and family disdain. They eventually had to, you know, drop trowel and start measuring, and 20 million people died for nothing.
And they're absolutely poised to try and do this again if we don't stop them and refuse to serve, and they're needless immoral war.
Yeah, yeah, you're darn right talking to Steve Dace, author of the book, ranking high up in the charts right now for obvious reasons.
Rise of the Fourth Reich Pick it up, Steve, you talk about the.
You know, Covid, its infiltration into our culture, it being a crisis they couldn't let go to waste.
Do you feel at all vindicated?
Now that, a new meta-analysis about masks and natural.
Immunity has come out proving people like you.
And me were attacked. I was banned from YouTube for suggesting masks don't work to prevent the spread of Covid.
Do you feel at all vindicated via your book that you were right the entire time, or is it just a feeling of just pure, utter disdain?
At this point.
That we're dealing with these collectivist.
Tyrant Losers.
It's the latter, for sure. My vindication will come with a Nuremberg-like trial, with Nuremberg-like punishments. Because here's the thing. They had done, these studies on masks for 90 years, when they just wanted to impose them on us, they just scrubbed them. Forgot this.
Just forget, Hey, we're just going to scrub memory hole. 90 years of data post-Spanish flu and we're just going to make it up. And you'll go along with it, because we told you to, and so they'll just do that again, Dan, with the next one, they'll just they'll act like wrecked them, barely knew them. We never published this meta-analysis. What are you talking about?
Dude, it's bookmarked on my internet browser from three years ago. Never happened. Don't know what you're talking about? Wear your mask, idiot. They'll just do it again.
If we don't punish the people who did this the first time, they will do it a second and a third. You always get the bad behavior you incentivize by not punishing it. And that's what our book is designed to do is to provide the evidence. It is set up like a mock Nuremberg trial.
We call witnesses that are all recorded, we have a live audio, or the raw audio of everybody, no one's anonymous. People who have suffered, whether it's masks, whether it's the jab, whether it's lockdowns, whether it's medical kidnapping, lack of treatment. And then we even provide policy solutions you can take to your state legislatures and local governments. Because they were the primary enforcement and imposing mechanisms of these edicts from on high.
And so this needs to happen. If there's not a reckoning, they will do this again, I promise.
Talking to Steve Dase, the book is The rise of the Fourth Reich.
Steve, do you think the jab?
Is going to go down as one of the most significant public health debacles in modern history at this point.
I think it's the worst domestic policy initiative in my lifetime. I think when you look at the clinical failure, when you look at the post injection effects, you know, when you look at that, I mean, Germany. Right now, Dan is suffering through 40 percent higher excess deaths, higher than it was at the worst waves of Covid. Even though almost every adult in that country's jab, Australia has 97 and a half percent of everyone over 16, jab excess deaths are worse there now than they were during the initial waves of Covid.
When you look at then, this was also the injection point of unprecedented tyranny. Literally book of revelations stuff, Dan. You couldn't buy or sell, I mean, you couldn't have a job, you couldn't have a job if you didn't take the jab. OK, this is the worst. Initiative, domestic initiative.
Operation Warp Speed is the most damaging failure, domestic policy failure in the country in my lifetime.
Yeah, yeah, I don't disagree.
And Steve? I had Dr. Robert Malone.
One of the world's preeminent experts in mRNA technology.
On the podcast.
About a week and a half ago.
And the news wasn't good.
Steve, You know, I took it early on. I've addressed it with the audience a thousand times, never, ever, ever recommended it to anyone else. Matter of fact made it crystal clear my situation was unique.
The decision was dumb. I never tried to hide that.
I regret it every single day of my life. And I asked him candidly.
You know, Doc, do you have any good news? I mean, if we took this shot, do you have any good news? I mean, is there like a time period, eight months a year, where if you've had no side effects?
And Steve? The answer was, I really don't that. Unfortunately, as time goes on.
You're going to see more and more and more.
Just straight up bad news from this.
Your thoughts on that?
He's correct because they lied from the beginning. It doesn't stay in your deltoid, it goes, the spike protein travels the entire bloodstream. It really loves your testes and ovaries, by the way, we don't know how long it stays.
And, of course, whom would we trust of means to long term be willing to study that and tell us the truth? At this point? There are places you can go flccc..net. I know Dr.
Malone. That's where he went to go with their protocol to try to purge the toxic spike protein from his body. Flccc..net. Molly James is a good friend of mine. Jamesclinic.com. They have a protocol.
TWC.
Health That's Peter McCullough and Harvey Rich, two of the most renowned medical scientists this country's ever produced. Those are places where they're trying to figure out in real time to come up with protocol treatments to try to purge that toxic spike protein out of your body. But we don't really know how long the long term risk is because we can't trust the people that created it to give us honest data. We've had to force their hand Dan in court the entire time to even show us the data on it. That they knew all along that the thing didn't work.
They knew all along that the thing was poisonous, they knew all along that they just decided they weren't going to record. What happened to 230 pregnant women in the Pfizer trials. Like, they just literally disappeared, where are they? where are their babies?
What happened, we don't know. This is the worst human rights violation that's occurred, maybe in all of human history. And that's why we called it the Fourth Reich, because it didn't come from just one autocratic, authoritarian, demonic regime. Dan Every nation For the first time in human history, every nation erased their borders, beat their swords into plowshares and said, like a Thanos snap, we'll just stop having life.
We'll just stop everything right now for an indefinite period of time over this virus until we have these vaccines that turned out to not work. But we'll keep trying to inject them and impose them on our people anyway. There's no parallel or precedent for this brother in all of human history.
Yeah, Steve Dace, he's watching the clock, folks.
Because he's an expert.
He knew I had to wrap this segment up, right, Jim?
Steve's been doing this a lot longer than me. The author Steve Dace, You're listening to him now? The book Rise of the Fourth Reich. Pick it up today, folks.
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Steve Dace, you're welcome back anytime.
Thanks for your time buddy.
You bet, brother, God bless you.
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