Vincent Everett Ellison Exposes the Lies Sold to Black America: MLK, Hip Hop Culture, & Democrats

2024-06-13 03:01:29

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1Speaker 1
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If you see your brother getting ready to get in anything, I don't care if he's wrong, you go with him.

2Speaker 2
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That's exactly how I grew up. That's exactly how I grew up.

1Speaker 1
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You defend your brother if I don't care. if he's wrong. I don't want to see y'all fighting and arguing in the street. If he's wrong, you go help him fight. And Bobo kept me, my brother kept me in so much trouble behind that door.

2Speaker 2
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That's how I grew up. If your brother kills five people in a drug-related murder spree, obviously we're against that. But get him a fake passport first.

1Speaker 1
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Yeah, get him out. That's why I wasn't angry at, I don't like Cuomo, but him. being supportive of his brother. I defended him too! Yeah, yeah.

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I said, no, no, a man gotta defend his brother.

2Speaker 2
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That's exactly what I said, and that's why, that's exactly right. I don't care what, he's your brother.

1Speaker 1
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He's your brother. You stand with your brother, period. And I didn't like them firing me. Now, suspend him. Send him home.

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That's how I felt. That's so funny.

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And then all these people I knew, who I thought were decent people, were like, no, he broke the rules. It's like, he broke the rules defending his brother, and I don't like his brother at all.

1Speaker 1
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Right, right, I don't like his brother. But you know, when it comes to that absolute rule, it's an absolute rule.

2Speaker 2
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I couldn't agree more.

1Speaker 1
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Yeah, it's an absolute rule.

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Then I thought, how were these people raised?

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I was at a bachelor party in Newport, Rhode Island, like 20 years ago. I mean, I worked at CNN, and we were, of course, drunk, and my brother was much drunker than I was, and we were walking down the street, and my brother got in a fistfight with someone.

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on the street.

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And the guy punched him, right up, punched him, knocked him down. And I thought to myself, oh, I can hear my father's voice. Don't let anybody touch your brother. So I knew I was about to get my ass kicked, and I had a Polaroid camera. You know, remember those Polaroid cameras?

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We were playing some game with Polaroid cameras, I don't even remember.

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I was about to get slaughtered, but I couldn't help it, and I went and I hit the guy in the face with a Polaroid camera, broke on his face, and the guy just kicked the shit out of me. Right in the face, knocked me backwards onto broken glass, I cut my hands, I had a huge black eye. I had to go on TV the next day with a black eye. I did not want to fight the guy, I'm sure it was my brother's fault. And I said to my brother, like, why did you, you know, you obligate me to get a black eye in your defense.

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I knew I was going to lose. Believe me, man.

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But I could hear my dad being like, don't anybody touch your brother.

1Speaker 1
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Anybody. touch your brother, you stand with it. You stand with it. You know, man, it's, again, that's why your dad reminds me a lot of my dad. He was one of those, he's, this rote-minded, hardscrabble, right and wrong, do your job, one of these men's, men's men.

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And again, you know, we've feminized men. That's one of the things they want to do in this culture.

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So when did that start and why did it start?

1Speaker 1
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Civil rights movement, man. All those communists and Marxists got involved with all these counterculture people, the feminists, and they wanted power. And the way you get power is by feminizing men. LGBTQ comes in. We are a threat to them.

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John Wayne's a threat, man. Jesus Christ is a threat. The guys that stand up and say, no, it's this way. Because they wanted to change everything. They hated J.

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Edgar Hoover, not because J. Edgar Hoover hated black people, please. They hated J. Edgar Hoover because J. Edgar Hoover hated communists.

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And he kicked all their asses. He took them all down. And when Hoover died, they had to destroy Hoover to make it seem like that. the civil rights movement and all the crap they were doing with the Black Panthers and whatnot was successful. These people were horrible people.

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The Panthers were selling dope on the street. They were in fighting and beating women. Huey Newton beat Bobby Seale with a bullwhip. It was insanity going on there. They were just a mob.

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But they would take these people and they would elevate them and say that this is how you need to be, because we need you as suicide bombers. The way Hamas has this martyr's wall, right, so that they can have these little children growing up wanting to kill themselves for Hamas. They're training us to be the exact same way. Marching, sweating while they're setting up in Beverly Hills and Manhattan, drinking their little tequilas and whatnot. Black people out there doing all the marching, all the sweating, all and getting the hell beat out of them and put in jail.

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We're their shock troops. We're their Hitler youth. That's why they need us. And they're going to keep that going.

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So the idea is to make men feminism, because you take them off the table as a threat. Sure.

1Speaker 1
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They're not a threat anymore whatsoever. You and I both know the whole feminist movement with the bra burning, and I don't need a man. We're equal to men. Marriage is like slavery. All of that.

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And we all know that was a Marxist construct.

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So that wasn't about liberation? Oh, it was.

1Speaker 1
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I think that they tried. They sold it as that. It was about destroying the family. Absolutely. Because when you destroy the family, when you destroy the whole concept of family, the government has to come in and take over.

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And that's what it did. The black family got destroyed behind that. Now the white family is going down, too. And America is in a death spiral. Man, they destroyed us from within.

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You remember what Abraham Lincoln said, right? He said, nobody can cross the Pacific Ocean and take America by force. We must live as free men or die by suicide. We'll have to destroy ourselves. How do you destroy America?

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You must take our God, drive it mad, and help us destroy one another. And that's exactly what's happening now. No other, no foreign nation is destroying America. America is committing suicide in real time. While you and I, as we get older, sit here and watch and say, oh my God.

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What can we do to stop this?

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So the civil rights movement, the official civil rights movement,

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was and is still described as a Christian movement. Yeah. Was it? No.

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Anything, but. You know, it's been a lot of great scholarship done recently. Virgil Walker has done a lot of good scholarship. Jane MacArthur has done some good scholarship. And they have, I mean John MacArthur, they looked at King's papers from Stanford.

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Come to find out that King wasn't even a Christian.

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He wasn't a Christian?

1Speaker 1
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No, they said he didn't believe in the deity of Christ, didn't believe in the virgin birth, didn't believe in the resurrection, didn't believe in hell.

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If you don't believe in those things, you can't be a Christian.

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No, that's true.

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So when you look at his monument in South D.

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C.

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, do you know this reverend is not on it?

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No, I didn't know that.

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There's nothing about God on that monument. Nothing. This is not a mistake. This is a confession. They knew exactly who they were.

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And our Bible tells us that a tree is known, how do you know a false prophet? A tree is known by the fruit it bears.

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That's right.

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You will not get good fruit from a bad tree or bad fruit from a good tree. Each tree and its fruit will be after its own kind. So when you look at the black community and the condition that it's in, if it's bad fruit, the tree had to be bad. That's right. And if it's bad fruit, it's a false prophet.

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It's binary. And when you look at where we were between 1940 and 1960, the black community had cut its poverty rate from 80% to about 35% in 20 years. It was the greatest reduction of poverty in the history of the world. And then, after the Civil Rights Movement, we flatlined. Why?

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We turned from God to government. And Martin Luther King Jr. and the Civil Rights Movement led us on that. And we know how. King was all tied up with the communists.

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Man, Stanley Levinson was the number one communist in America. Bayard Rustin had been a communist in his youth. The guy that ran the SELC, his name was Jack O'Dell, Hunter Pitts O'Dell. He was a communist. King's lawyer, Clarence Jones, was a communist.

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Clarence Jones and Stanley Levinson, they wrote the I Have a Dream speech. They were both communists. And when you look at the I Have a Dream speech, it's amazing when you dissect it and deconstruct it. Because when King says five times in that speech, the first thing he said was, a hundred years after the Emancipation Proclamation, the Negro is still not free.

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That is a lie.

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I was born free. My freedom is a gift from God. It's an unalienable right. According to John Locke and his Second Treatise of Government, it is irrevocable, non-transferable, and unsellable. Now, King says five times in that speech that we were not free.

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Then at the end, he has that great refrain, that on some certain day we'll be free at last, free at last. Thank God Almighty. we're free at last. Still telling us we're not free. And we make our children recite that speech.

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Every year on his birthday, saying that they're not free. That they come to government for their unalienable right to freedom. You don't ask government for your freedom. You defy government to come and try to take it from you. What did our Founding Fathers say when King George said, I'm your sovereign?

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No, you're not. I'm going to show you. And he said, I'm not just going to come in and kill you guys. I'm going to bring you back to Great Britain. I'm going to choke you till you're almost dead.

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Then I'm going to castrate you. Then I'm going to cut you open, let you see your guts before you die. And then, after you're dead, I'm going to cut off your limbs and send them to the most parts of the British Empire. And guess what the Founding Fathers said? They did a declaration and said, we pledge our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

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Put their names on. it, sent it to him and said, bring it. And whooped his ass.

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Free men. And then they walked around with their chest stuck out. Yeah, we did it. And King was running around. King would have asked King George.

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He said, well, boss, can we be free? No. Well, OK then.

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We'll just march until you decide to give it to us. The Founding Fathers said, you don't give us our freedom. We earn it. It's ours. Come and try to take it.

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And this is the mindset that they placed into America, Black America first, but now America. And look at the results of it. We're at the bottom of every socioeconomic statistic in America. And there's a revolution now happening here in America. They're turning against the Democratic Party.

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They're turning away from it because they're seeing that it's not working. Joe Biden walking around. I'm going to put you in the back of the buses. I'm going to put you back in the cotton field. And Black folks looking at him like, what?

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You didn't see him at Morehouse College.

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Yeah, just the other day.

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One of the funnest things I ever saw in my life. What is that? He's a young Black man, 21,, 22 years old. He's up there talking, I'm going to put you in the back of the buses. I'm going to put you in your hamburgers in the back of the restaurant.

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And they're looking at him like.

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These young boys ain't concerned about no mess like that. They're in Morehouse. It's a Black college. They've already segregated themselves.

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They don't want to be around White people. At Morehouse. If they want to be around White folks, they don't want to Harvard or Yale or something. You're at Morehouse. A Black all-male college.

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And you're going to talk to those brothers. Nobody is putting them, brothers, in the back of the bus. Unless they want to go in the back of the bus.

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It's interesting that you just said they segregated themselves. Yes.

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They love Black culture. It's not that they hate White people. And that's what people try to say. If you love yourself, you hate somebody else. No, it's not true.

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I mean, good God, if a Jewish person goes to a Jewish school, it don't mean he hates Gentiles. We have to understand that loving yourself is a virtue.

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Jesus said, love your neighbor as you love yourself. So the way you treat your neighbor is predicated on how you love yourself. So if I don't love myself and I want to inject drugs in my arm, I'll expect you to want to do the same. And I'll allow you to do that. Because I love you as I love myself.

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If I call myself the N-word, and of course I'm going to call you that because I'm loving you like I love myself.

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But he says, first, love God with all your heart, your soul, and your mind. Then love your neighbor as you love yourself. Those are the two commandments. We leave the first one out. See, if you get the first one first, you get the second one first.

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We just tell people, love your neighbor as yourself. And so many people hate themselves. They also hate their neighbor. And that's where the conflict comes in the Black community. Martin Luther King, Jr.

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never talked about loving yourself. He was always talking about trying to make some racist. love you. And you can't change how people view you. Our Bible tells us consistently, do not be concerned about man and how he feels about you.

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He will hate you. He's going to hate you. Don't be concerned about that. You love him.

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That doesn't give him license to put his hands on you.

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Christianity is not a religion of non-violence. It's a religion of non-aggression. That means if you don't touch me, I won't touch you. If you don't hurt my family, I won't touch you. But if you come and you try to do harm to me or mine,

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I'm going to whoop you up behind the name of Jesus. Get you off of me. I have to take care of my family. You know that if you let it be known that anybody can come up in your house and eat your food and rape your wife and your daughters, they're going to do it. There's no virtue in that.

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None. And that's what King preached. Allow these evil people to come into your home.

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Beat your wife. Rape your children. Blow up your house. And that's why so many black men turned away from Christianity during that time. I'm not going to do that.

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If that's Christianity, I'm not going to do it. But they were teaching a false Christianity, a plantation Christianity from the slave master. Jesus Christ went into the temple. When he found those guys money changing, what did he do? Made a whip.

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Ran them out. Nobody touched him until he said, my time is gone. He was not a piñata. He didn't allow it.

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So, I think your assessment of King is right. I mean, of course. The one thing about his life, though, that does make me pause, is the speech that he gave the night before. he was shot in April of 1968, and he was a garbage strike, I think, in Memphis, and he was late because he was in bed with a couple of different women, and Ralph Abernathy finally bugged him until he showed up at the church. No notes.

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And gives this speech, which is not as well publicized as you think it would be, in which he basically predicts his death. And I've listened to it, and again, I'm not a fan of Martin Luther King, but that's the most unbelievable speech I've ever heard in my life.

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It is. The King did it all the time.

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But I guess my point is, it's hard to see that and not think, like, God is speaking through him. How can you predict your own death the night before? I mean, that's unbelievable, don't you think?

1Speaker 1
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I mean, I think, if you do it almost every day, sooner or later when you die.

2Speaker 2
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Oh, is that.

1Speaker 1
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true? Yeah, he always predicted it. He always said that this was going to happen to him. I don't know if he believed it or not. I do know this, that he had such a libertine lifestyle.

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Yes. He was more like Rasputin than he was Jesus Christ. He became an indispensable person in government for a very long time because they put so much behind him. I read this great book, I can't think of the name of it now, they talked about the Civil Rights Movement was more about the Cold War than it was about anything else. Because the Russians were using the propaganda of how America treated black people to have African nations and Asian nations come to communism.

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Yes, that's true. You're our comrades, you're our brothers. That's right. They had W.E.B. Du Bois.

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come to China. Yes. They gave him all kinds of awards and everything. Stalin had. these guys, Malcolm X, would go over there and talk.

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So they were using it as a propaganda piece and they said, we have to take care of this. So King was their front man in this effort. They didn't know King was compromised by the communists until right before the March on Washington. And that's when Bobby Kennedy, the first Deek DeLoach, told him, get these communists out. Number two guy at the FBI.

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Yeah, he wouldn't do it. Then Bobby Kennedy told him, man, you got to get these guys out. He wouldn't do it. And then, right before the March on Washington, the big six came to the White House and Bobby kind of gave John Kennedy a nod. and John Kennedy told King, come out to the Rose Garden, I want to talk to you.

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He didn't even want to be bugged in the Oval Office because he was going to share top secret information with him. And he said, I know, you know, you're under surveillance. That's lawyer. talk for saying, you're under surveillance. Yeah.

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You have three, four guys in your organization are communists. They got to go. And he called their names, Rustin, Jack O'Dell, Stanley Levinson. He said, these guys are communists and they have to go. And King denied.

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He said, look, do you think I pulled these guys names out of a hat? I'm the president of the United States of America and I know their name. And he brought up this guy in Great Britain that they called some type of sex scandal. Forget his name. But he said, you know about this?

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He said, yes. He said, well, he lost his government behind that. He said, I can do the same thing. If you go down, I go down. You got to get rid of these guys because I'm affiliated with you.

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They had.

00:22:07.80 – 00:22:18.04

invested a lot in him. So King said he would do it. Well, J. Edgar Hoover, of course, didn't believe it. And he heard about this group of communists that were going to be meeting down in Dorchester, Georgia.

00:22:18.72 – 00:22:33.94

And he set up some cameras to see who was going to show up. And lo and behold, Martin Luther King Jr. showed up in this mass despise after this long conversation with the president. And he bought these pictures back to Bobby Kennedy and said, I thought he said he's going to get rid of these guys. He's going to cut them loose.

00:22:34.66 – 00:22:54.30

And that's when Bobby Kennedy signed to put the wiretaps on him. He said because, and it was more to protect him, because they thought he was going to be a blackmail and that he was going to be infiltrated. and da, da, da da da. And so they watched him. And, as you notice, none of this stuff really got out until it is funny how it got out.

00:22:55.74 – 00:22:58.44

The night of the Joe Frazier Muhammad Ali fight, 1971.

00:23:00.12 – 00:23:07.14

Everybody's watching this fight, right? So this group of weirdo communists decided they were going to.

00:23:09.64 – 00:23:17.84

burglarize the FBI office in Media, Pennsylvania. They burglarized the FBI office. And guess what they found? The co-interpol papers. Yes.

00:23:18.42 – 00:23:28.38

Bought them out and gave them to the Washington Post, to the New York Times. And that's where all the stuff about King came out. It wasn't J. Edgar Hoover, it wasn't the FBI, it wasn't the conservatives. It was the liberals that put it out there.

00:23:28.98 – 00:23:35.98

And when people started reading it, they said, Oh my God. Hoover had kept King's stuff secret.

00:23:37.54 – 00:23:48.32

All of it. Nobody knew it. The sex stuff. Yeah, the sex stuff. And then, when it got out, the people, King's people wanted to have it all destroyed.

00:23:48.98 – 00:24:16.18

And that's when the judge said, No, we're going to take it and we're going to seal it for 50 years. And nobody can see it. But yeah, these liberal morons were the ones that broke into the FBI office and stole it and gave it to the press. And that's where, and that's how we knew about King's affairs and his 45 girlfriends and his prostitutes and the orgies. The thing that bothers me more about all of it, Tucker, is the prostitutes.

00:24:17.90 – 00:24:22.40

The orgies are bad. We ain't got to talk about that. But when you buy flesh.

00:24:25.02 – 00:24:31.82

and you say you're a man of God, I mean, that's very visceral with me. That's visceral.

00:24:34.82 – 00:24:52.06

Just so much terrible stuff. But the fact that, you know, they say he plagiarized his PhD, which means that he was a fake doctor. And then, you know, they say that he wasn't a Christian. It means he's a fake Christian. And he walks around with these communists.

00:24:52.24 – 00:24:57.54

And it had gotten so bad that Dick DeLoach finally told.

00:24:59.34 – 00:25:06.32

J. Edgar Hoover. He said, You can't talk to him. And that's when J. Edgar Hoover then decided to make him an enemy of the state.

00:25:06.90 – 00:25:22.78

And this is when it gets interesting with his assassination. When I read this in Taylor Branch's book, Parting the Waters, American King Years. And Taylor Branch is a Democrat. He's Bill Clinton's roommate at Yale. So it's not a conservative saying this.

00:25:23.30 – 00:25:43.94

It's a Democrat. Bill Clinton friend that said this about King. He said that the FBI designated King an enemy of the state. And it's only about five or six people that have ever had such designation in United States of America history. And they said that with this designation, even if they heard that somebody was coming to assassinate him, they wouldn't warn him.

00:25:44.60 – 00:26:02.76

And that was a courtesy they would give to Mafia dons. They would not give it to King. So they said he's an enemy of the United States of America. This is interesting that he was so affiliated with these people. They found out that money from Moscow was bankrolling the Civil Rights Movement.

00:26:02.86 – 00:26:11.32

He was getting money from Moscow put in his pocket. All of this. He was deemed the enemy of the United States of America by the federal government.

00:26:13.52 – 00:26:14.72

And so I'm reading this.

00:26:16.54 – 00:26:21.50

And I'm reading this stuff about right now, FBI and the government hated Martin Luther King Jr.

00:26:21.50 – 00:26:31.80

, hated the Civil Rights Movement. I read this story about this group called the Revolutionary Action Movement. RAM. Back, where Stanford was running it.

00:26:33.54 – 00:26:49.18

Tupac, Shakur's people were involved in all of this. And these guys were rough. They had decided that they were going to assassinate Whitney Young for the Urban League and Roy Wilkins for the NAACP. They were going to take out the Black leadership because they thought they were Uncle Tom's. And.

00:26:51.32 – 00:27:04.34

Hoover had infiltrated RAM and knew what they were doing. If J. Edgar Hoover had hated the Civil Rights Movement, he would have allowed RAM to go ahead and then would have arrested them and said, look at this. Black people killing Black people. Ain't this a shame?

00:27:05.60 – 00:27:16.42

Instead, what does he do? He warns the people in the Civil Rights Movement, protects them, then he arrests the guys at RAM and destroys the whole organization. They go into exile. Some go to Cuba. They all run off.

00:27:16.66 – 00:27:20.18

Others he put in jail. Does that sound like a man that hates the Civil Rights Movement?

2Speaker 2
00:27:21.24 – 00:27:21.38

No.

1Speaker 1
00:27:23.00 – 00:27:33.92

Juan Williams did a book on Thurgood Marshall. As you know, Thurgood Marshall was a federal judge for a long time. He became Supreme Court Justice, Solicitor. General. Thurgood Marshall said J.

00:27:33.96 – 00:27:44.52

Edgar Hoover never lied to him. He had to sign the warrants as a federal judge. He said Hoover didn't have to lie. He said Hoover always had the goods. Never lied to him.

00:27:45.08 – 00:27:55.58

So why this assassination on the character of J. Edgar Hoover? Because he took out Communists. He took out Marxists. He took out these malcontents that hate America.

00:27:56.06 – 00:28:08.12

You know, the same group in 1968 that tried to take over the Democratic Party in Chicago, right? And Mayor Daley, in the hard hats, ran them out. And they were out there screaming, the whole world is watching. The whole world is watching. What did Saul Alinsky tell them?

00:28:08.36 – 00:28:38.34

You got three choices. Either find a wailing wall and cry, start making bombs and exploding everything, then they're going to turn to the GOP, or go organize. And in four years come back and you be the delegates. They came back to Miami in 1972. They were so well-versed in the rules of the Democratic Party that when Daley showed up with his Illinois-Chicago tension, they ran him out.

00:28:39.28 – 00:28:55.60

And Jesse Jackson and this guy by the name of Singer took their place. They took over the Democratic Party in 1972, and they brought in LGBTQ and abortion, that stuff for the first time. And that's when Richard Nixon slaughtered them, remember? Nixon didn't need Watergate. The Democrats imploded in 1972..

00:28:57.64 – 00:29:08.98

And they did it from the Civil Rights Movement. All of those people from the Civil Rights Movement, that was their plan to come in and take the Democratic Party. They tried it in 68, Daley beat them down. They then used the rules. In 72.

00:29:08.98 – 00:29:14.32

they got it. They haven't let it go since. And they finally, finally got what they wanted in 2008 with Barack.

2Speaker 2
00:29:14.32 – 00:29:16.18

Obama. Who was Obama?

1Speaker 1
00:29:16.82 – 00:29:21.28

Oh my God, I think Obama was a part of a worldwide liberal movement.

00:29:23.30 – 00:29:51.66

From Western Europe to here. All of them, all of this cabal of weirdos over there in Europe that were pushing things at that time, from Merkel to the guy over in France. Obama was involved in all of it. And all this LGBTQ stuff and all this climate change crap started happening then. And it's all designed for a one-world government to try to get, I don't know, the World Health Organization or the UN or somebody to start getting some type of criminal court that can start arresting us for not doing what they want us to do.

2Speaker 2
00:29:51.84 – 00:30:01.66

I mean, it's funny, the distance between what you thought something was and then what you later learned out it actually was. And on the.

1Speaker 1
00:30:03.08 – 00:30:03.48

LGBTQ+,

2Speaker 2
00:30:05.02 – 00:30:19.62

or whatever we're calling it now, I mean, I was raised in a pretty liberal area where we were told that was about, you know, a certain percent of the population, I think it was 10%, they said was gay by birth. And, you know, leave them alone. Don't bother them. Don't be mean to them. Exactly.

00:30:20.62 – 00:30:32.14

That always made sense to me. I have zero interest in bothering people in general, particularly over their sex lives. But now I'm starting to think in my age that it wasn't. that actually wasn't kind of what it was.

1Speaker 1
00:30:32.14 – 00:30:38.66

about. No, no, no. It's a... It's... They understand what they're doing.

00:30:39.60 – 00:30:45.88

You know what communism is. Number one, it's atheism. Why? Because they do not compete for power. Number.

2Speaker 2
00:30:45.88 – 00:30:47.88

one, it's atheism. I agree with that. Number one,

1Speaker 1
00:30:48.04 – 00:31:00.68

they don't compete for power. In America, we say there's a higher law than the Constitution. It's God. There are certain rights that we have that you cannot touch, government. That's our whole concept of government.

00:31:01.24 – 00:31:12.40

Unalienable rights. We have a Bill of Rights that say you can't touch these, government. The communists say, no. No, such ideology exists. The government controls all.

00:31:12.82 – 00:31:26.56

So God has to be destroyed. We know that much of LGBTQ is in direct conflict with our Bible. Direct conflict. Absolutely. So, it's like the Daniel test.

00:31:27.44 – 00:31:48.32

They had Daniel. You know the story. Daniel was the king's favorite, and the guys in Babylon started getting jealous of Daniel, and they said, we're going to set him up. So they said, hey king, why don't you make a decree that says that no one can pray to you for 30 days. The king said, yeah, it makes good sense.

00:31:48.44 – 00:31:59.16

But they knew that Daniel prayed two or five times a day to his God. They say, if the king makes this decree, if Daniel obeys the decree, his God leaves him.

00:32:00.98 – 00:32:10.74

If he disobeys the king, the king will kill him. Either way, Daniel's in the trick bag. So, of course, the king makes the decree. They're smiling on. Daniel, sees him praying to his God.

00:32:10.90 – 00:32:16.28

You know the rest of the story. They put him into the lion's den. God saves him. King kills those guys. It's the same thing in America.

00:32:16.28 – 00:32:26.28

now. We're going to pass laws to you, Christians. You're going to bow to us. If you do what your God says, we're going to punish you.

00:32:28.00 – 00:32:33.18

But if you do what we say, your God is going to leave you. Either way, we're in the trick bag.

2Speaker 2
00:32:33.82 – 00:32:43.90

Either way, they have us. This is not what we were promised. We were promised a society where everyone kind of does his own thing and everyone gets along. We treat other people with respect. Exactly.

00:32:44.12 – 00:32:53.74

Some measure of dignity. You don't have to agree with them. They don't have to follow your religion, but you also don't have to follow their religion. You don't. But now, I feel like we're being told we have to follow their religion.

00:32:54.08 – 00:32:54.70

There it is.

1Speaker 1
00:32:54.82 – 00:33:10.30

It's always about who has the gun. See, the civil rights movement should have been, if Martin Luther King Jr. had been a real preacher, he would have known that you don't change people's opinions with a gun. You change their hearts. You're a Godfather aficionado, right?

00:33:10.58 – 00:33:19.14

Yeah. Okay. You know, when first Godfather comes on, that's Michael Quinn. He's sitting down talking with his girlfriend, Kay. She sees Luca Brasi talking to himself.

00:33:19.98 – 00:33:25.84

She says, Michael, who is that scary man? Michael says, that's a very scary man. That's Luca Brasi. I'll tell you a story about Luca. He says,

00:33:27.88 – 00:33:41.78

my father has a godson by the name of Johnny Fontaine. Johnny Fontaine is famous now. He said that Johnny was on a contract with his band leader and Johnny wanted to do this movie. The band leader wouldn't let him out. He asked my father if he could handle it.

00:33:41.82 – 00:33:56.68

My father said yes. Father goes to the band leader and offers him $10,000 to let Johnny go. Band leader says no. My father says, I'll be back, and this time he brings back Luca Brasi. He gets Johnny out of the contract with a certified check of $1,000..

00:33:57.34 – 00:34:11.82

Kay says, Michael, how did he do that? He said, well, Luca Brasi put a gun to the band leader's head and promised him that either his brains or his signature would be on the contract. Michael, that's a true story. Okay. Question, was Vito Corleone a violent man for using Luca Brasi?

00:34:12.40 – 00:34:21.94

Of course he was. Martin Luther King Jr. wants to eat a hamburger down south. Racist white man says no. Martin says, I'll be back.

00:34:22.48 – 00:34:33.68

This time he brings the federal government. Federal government put a gun to the guy's head. He says, either Martin Luther King or your brains are going to be on their lunch counter eating that hamburger. God lets him eat. Was Martin Luther King Jr.

00:34:33.68 – 00:34:41.48

a violent man? Of course he was. He used violence from a third party. Yes. Civil rights movement wasn't a nonviolent movement.

00:34:42.54 – 00:34:58.04

A nonviolent movement would have been changing your neighbor's heart by your actions. What does that mean? If he's mean to me, I'm good to him. If you won't, let me eat a hamburger at your stand, I'll build another restaurant that's better than yours. you eat at mine for free.

00:34:58.98 – 00:35:10.52

If you won't, let me go to your school, I'll build a better school than yours and you can send your child to mine for free. You treat me bad, I'll treat you right. But you're going to treat me like a man. You're going to treat me with respect. I demand that.

00:35:11.22 – 00:35:22.68

And this is how you get your respect. Instead, what did they do? They used a gun. In the book of Corinthians, it says 11 people will not enter the kingdom of heaven. The last one is the extortionist.

00:35:23.08 – 00:35:26.76

What's the extortionist? An extortionist is the one that uses violence,

00:35:28.88 – 00:35:43.06

threats, coercion, to get what they want. And that's what the civil rights movement did. It didn't change the hearts of Americans. It extorted them. It told them either give us what we want, or we're going to blow your brains out or we're going to put you in jail.

00:35:43.32 – 00:36:01.48

That is not the Christian way. And it failed because they used the tool of the devil to get what they wanted. And it continues to fail. We're at the bottom of every socioeconomic statistic in America because we will not do what we've always supposed to have done, and that was living this meritocracy. How did we break into the NFL?

00:36:02.28 – 00:36:10.40

We showed we were better. How did we break into the NBA? We showed we were better. We went out there and we competed. Mono a mono.

00:36:10.96 – 00:36:18.56

I'm going to beat you straight up. If you make a glass that's better than this one that will last for a thousand years, people are not going to care what your color is. They're going to buy it.

2Speaker 2
00:36:19.34 – 00:36:21.34

What's the tool of the devil that he used?

1Speaker 1
00:36:21.60 – 00:36:30.78

Extortion. Extortion. Coercion. You're going to give me what. I'm going to pass a law that says if you don't give me what I want, the federal government is going to put you in jail or kill you.

00:36:31.62 – 00:36:36.70

Now, give me what I want. That is not the Christian way. We're not even supposed to sue each other.

2Speaker 2
00:36:36.96 – 00:36:39.10

On the way to court.

1Speaker 1
00:36:39.46 – 00:36:46.72

We're supposed to settle your differences. We're supposed to reason with one another. Well, that's why I'm going to take you to court. No, I'll let it go before I take you to court.

2Speaker 2
00:36:47.90 – 00:36:48.50

I feel the same way.

1Speaker 1
00:36:48.92 – 00:36:59.44

I'll let it go. I'll measure you before we do it. And once I trust you, if you break their trust, that's my tax. I trusted him. Sure enough, it's on me.

00:37:00.32 – 00:37:03.96

Fool me once, what? Shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. You take it. No.

00:37:04.42 – 00:37:13.78

They didn't want to do the hard work. And that's why I tell the LGBTQ community also. Do the hard work. Don't go to the law. Change the minds of your neighbor.

00:37:14.36 – 00:37:24.64

All of these things that they are saying about you, that you say are not true. Prove, that is not true. Don't go and have somebody put a gun to your neighbor and say, that's a Tim Cook. It's openly gay. I buy his product.

00:37:25.54 – 00:37:28.90

Why? Because it's the best product out there. I phone, I buy it.

00:37:32.00 – 00:37:44.38

Prove your loyalty. Prove that if you want to be this man's friend, be his friend. Show yourself friendly. But you can't go out there using the law to get it done. We have made this mistake over and over again.

00:37:45.36 – 00:38:03.28

Right now, they're marching down in Florida. They want to send us to put some type of black history back into public education when the Santa's has passed a school choice bill. If you don't like how the public educational system is educating the children, take it to a private school. No, no, no. We're going to make you do it.

00:38:04.40 – 00:38:17.90

Coercion. This is all they know. And they put the black preacher up ahead of it all the time. And if any black person, like when Byron Donald just said that the black family was more intact during Jim Crow. Oh, they came up.

00:38:18.00 – 00:38:33.28

Byron Donald said black people were doing better doing Jim Crow. He didn't say that. He said, despite of Jim Crow, Jim Crow couldn't destroy us. But the iron triangle, the black preacher, the black politician, the black civil rights work, they will. They have.

00:38:34.12 – 00:38:41.60

Slavery didn't kill us. Jim Crow didn't kill us. But the Democratic Party, they're taking us out. They are destroying the black community. right now.

00:38:42.10 – 00:38:42.50

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2Speaker 2
00:38:42.50 – 00:39:03.80

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00:39:04.64 – 00:39:18.36

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1Speaker 1
00:40:50.08 – 00:41:17.98

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2Speaker 2
00:41:23.86 – 00:41:37.20

So you grew up, you're a couple of years older than I am. You grew up in far western Tennessee, near Mississippi and Arkansas. I think in one of, in one of the two majority black counties in Tennessee.

00:41:38.72 – 00:41:48.94

And you entered school right around the time DSEG was started to roll. So you've actually lived this and seen it. Tell us about the change that you've seen.

1Speaker 1
00:41:50.30 – 00:41:57.94

I've seen black people lose their virtue. Even though they were poor, they were a virtuous society. Nobody went to jail. Nobody.

2Speaker 2
00:41:58.74 – 00:42:00.74

In your world that you lived in. Yeah, nobody.

1Speaker 1
00:42:01.24 – 00:42:11.16

Family stayed intact. People stayed married. Nobody got divorced. It didn't happen. If a child was born and the parents weren't married.

00:42:11.16 – 00:42:20.40

the grandparents took care of that child. It wasn't a single parent environment. He was staying with his grandparents. He had a mother and a father. He was taken care of.

00:42:20.64 – 00:42:21.62

Or she was taken care of.

00:42:23.56 – 00:42:30.92

The people had a sort of majesty about them. They went to church. They were honest. Never saw a police officer, hardly. Sheriff's department.

00:42:31.12 – 00:42:53.32

People just got along. And now it's changed. The hip hop culture got involved in it. At the beginning of the hip hop culture, you know we, they tried to warn people about it. I remember when I think it was and some other lady tried to warn people about it.

2Speaker 2
00:42:53.32 – 00:42:53.88

In the 80s.

1Speaker 1
00:42:57.36 – 00:43:14.00

The NAACP, C. Delores Tucker, got involved, warning people about it. And then all of a sudden, from what Suge Knight says, Suge Knight said they started paying them and they all shut up. They started giving them money. And now the NAACP gives awards to them.

00:43:14.00 – 00:43:25.78

Now all of the urban leagues. they give these guys awards. And the hip hop culture is a culture of sex, violence, and materialism. No virtue whatsoever. How many jugglers you ever shot?

00:43:26.10 – 00:43:29.16

How many women you slept with? How much money you got?

00:43:31.26 – 00:43:34.26

Violence. Sexual gratification.

00:43:37.06 – 00:43:48.10

Virtualists. And Thomas Wolfe said. the great writer Thomas Wolfe said that culture is the arts elevated to a set of beliefs. So you have the arts, you have the culture, and you have the politics.

00:43:50.12 – 00:44:04.66

In your arts. you have religion, you have music, you have books, you have television, radio. Those are the arts. And we allowed a satanic movement to take over the arts of the black community and not spread it to the white community. And that was the hip hop culture.

00:44:05.74 – 00:44:22.08

And you and I, listening to the Temptations and listening to all this great music going on, right? Stax. These people, I want to kill an N-word, I want to up an N-word. I mean, this little rapper in Memphis by the name of Glorella, not Gorilla.

00:44:23.70 – 00:44:30.14

Glorella. Just was invited to the White House. Her hit record at the time was I F N Words for Free.

00:44:32.98 – 00:44:47.00

Gets a White House invitation. Barack Obama had all of them at the White House at one time. Had a little hip hop festival in the Oval Office. He had Rick Ross and Dr. Dre, Snoop, all of them.

00:44:47.16 – 00:45:04.86

And all I'm talking about killing. So you have a young society that wants to understand what right is, right? In our time, you had astronauts and Nobel Laureates balled to the White House, right? And you say, that's what I want to aspire to be. Those people you brought to the White House were people you aspired to be.

00:45:04.94 – 00:45:16.06

The heavyweight champion of the world, right? The Super Bowl champs, right? Those were the people you aspired to be. And now they bring these people and say, you should aspire to be that. And then they're alarmed when they are that.

00:45:16.62 – 00:45:20.10

Well, you had Snoop at the White House. Snoop talking about smoking blunts every day.

00:45:22.86 – 00:45:35.98

And he's on TV selling more merchandise than Morgan Freeman is right now. Snoop, selling cars and selling beer and selling sneakers. Ain't a dope thing. Talked about killing folks. Talked about robbing people.

00:45:36.80 – 00:45:37.82

But they made him a hero.

00:45:40.00 – 00:45:57.68

And people look at this and they say, well, why are these things happening? That's why these things are happening, because you hold these people up as heroes in our society. Violent, evil, sadistic individuals. And when your children act like them, you're alarmed. Women walking around half-naked, talking about having sex with people.

00:45:57.78 – 00:46:12.06

Then when they do and they're shaking like them, you say, oh, what's going on? And you just kind of look at them and say, yeah. So you're wondering why middle-class white Americans treat you this way. I'm afraid of snakes, because every time I looked on TV, a snake was killing somebody. So I don't like them.

00:46:12.34 – 00:46:22.72

If you want to see me run out of here, let a snake come through that door right now. Okay, I'm leaving. All right? You have a hip-hop culture that put all on television. Black men shooting people.

00:46:23.14 – 00:46:38.98

Black men raping people. Black men doing dope. Black men kicking in doors and spraying the whole freaking room with machine guns. And then, when they see the black man that looks like that, come near them and they kind of get apprehensive, you a racist? No, I'm sane.

00:46:41.22 – 00:46:52.20

You look like the person on TV that does these things. If I saw a white man walk to me with a swastika in the middle of his head, I don't look at him and think he's going to be a friend of mine.

00:46:54.04 – 00:46:59.86

And he walks up to me, hey man, why you tripping? Man, you got a swastika in the middle of your head. Well, I'm tripping.

00:47:01.68 – 00:47:16.34

So you want to ask the question of these young people. We all wear uniforms, don't we? If you see a house on fire and there's a fireman over there with a fireman, you say, hey man, he says, oh no, I'm just wearing this. You'll get mad at him. Police officer.

00:47:16.34 – 00:47:22.08

do get mugged, hey man, oh no, I'm just wearing this uniform, I'm not really a police officer. Well, you see a young man looking like a thug.

00:47:23.78 – 00:47:26.76

and you treat him like a thug. He says, well, actually, I graduated from Harvard.

00:47:28.28 – 00:47:29.82

Well, man, why do you want to look like a thug?

00:47:31.60 – 00:47:34.42

Well, I can dress the way I want to. Yes, you can, and you're dressing like a thug.

00:47:35.94 – 00:47:47.38

And I'm treating you like one. Why would an intelligent man want to be looked upon as a thug? Why would an intelligent woman want to be looked upon as a whore? Why are you dressing like one? And these children look confused.

00:47:47.76 – 00:48:01.32

You know why? Because no one is telling them what right is any longer. In the military, it was this thing that you knew. what right was. Shoes shine, creases down, down, down, down, down, down the seams, standing straight.

00:48:01.70 – 00:48:15.28

It was written down. this is what right is. When I grew up, when you grew up, your father, make your bed up in the morning time, always tell the truth. You will have children growing up now where the parents are teaching them to steal, teaching them to lie, teaching them how to get over.

00:48:17.50 – 00:48:24.10

I learned that when I worked in prison for five years, these guys were antisocial. They had been taught a completely different.

00:48:25.62 – 00:48:26.88

values than I had.

00:48:28.86 – 00:48:49.06

And it was almost like what Myles was talking about when he talked about reeducation camps, right? You say, man, it's got to be a cultural reformation, but that's what they've done to America. now. People will actually sit down and argue with you about whether or not gay sex is right between two men. And you, and I grew up saying no, fornication is right outside of marriage.

00:48:50.30 – 00:49:07.54

And if you screw up, what do you do? You ask, you repent, and God will forgive you. But instead of trying to tell me that the Christian faith allows for fornication outside of marriage or gay sex, you're a liar. And why would you tell a child that? Why would you take away the ability for him to repent?

00:49:09.04 – 00:49:19.64

See, that's what pride is, isn't it? What it says? Lewis said the most damnable sin was, pride. There's a few things in the Bible that God hates, and it's pride. God hates pride.

00:49:20.68 – 00:49:23.60

It's one of the seven deadly sins. What do they call their movement?

?Unknown Speaker
00:49:25.10 – 00:49:25.40

Pride.

1Speaker 1
00:49:26.94 – 00:49:36.14

Pride. I'm going to make you do what I want you to do. It's all about me. My truth. I want to be seen.

00:49:37.10 – 00:49:50.24

Well, you and I, as men, the Bible tells us, don't worry about how a man views you. But they say, I demand to be seen. I demand that you treat me the way that I want to be treated. Pride. Pride.

00:49:50.76 – 00:49:59.38

And what does pride say? If you come up and tell them, you're doing something wrong. I'm not. And therefore, I'm not going to ask for repentance. I'm not going to ask for reconciliation.

00:50:00.16 – 00:50:08.28

I'm not wrong. Honey, even if you are wrong, he'll forgive you. There's no injury in asking for forgiveness. I'm not going to do it.

00:50:10.66 – 00:50:23.66

Ah, that's terrible. Because that's what our whole religion is built upon. Us. being very flawed. Jesus knowing that we're flawed.

00:50:24.60 – 00:50:37.80

But recognizing the flaw and reconciling. It's just that simple. And pride tells them, don't you dare. Don't you dare say that you're wrong. Don't you dare say you need any type of reconciliation or repentance or forgiveness.

00:50:37.80 – 00:50:42.90

Don't you dare. And these children are buying into it. And it's just wrong.

2Speaker 2
00:50:44.52 – 00:51:10.30

What's the effect of a boy growing up in a female-led household and then multiply that by millions? and you have over 70% of boys growing up in the black community, but now also among whites, in a female-led household. That's a huge change. And what does it produce?

1Speaker 1
00:51:11.52 – 00:51:26.30

The discipline and the protection of the father is necessary. Sometimes women will just want their father to be a breadwinner. No. That's third or fourth down the line. He's to love his family before he even provides for them.

00:51:26.34 – 00:51:31.64

He's to protect them. He loves them and protects them first. Provides discipline. Spiritual counseling.

00:51:34.40 – 00:51:40.44

Providing sustenance is down the line, because without those first four or whatever he provides, it's no good.

00:51:42.16 – 00:52:04.50

So they've taken away his protection. In many ways, some women do it well, but very few. Women have a difficulty being as stern with their sons as men do, because it's just something about two males being in a household, especially when they start growing up. And the father knowing what's out there, waiting for his son. That other men will kill him.

00:52:05.12 – 00:52:16.08

That other men will take full advantage of him in a way that a woman does not understand. That's true. A father knows this. There are things that happen to you when I talk. We have never ever talked to our wives about.

00:52:16.20 – 00:52:26.00

That's for sure. You know, our daughters about. But you'll pull your son over and say, listen, you need to watch this. They can give you nuances. They can tell you how to walk.

00:52:26.08 – 00:52:35.42

They can tell you how to talk. Put some bass in your voice. Put a grip behind that handshake. Look him in the eye. Fathers teach their sons that.

00:52:35.68 – 00:52:41.48

I'm going to take you to get your first job. You show up. You show up early. You leave late. You don't steal.

00:52:41.76 – 00:52:46.56

You don't lie. Do you understand me? Do you have to deal with me? He teaches them in the morning time. Make your bed.

00:52:46.90 – 00:52:51.56

Do your chores. If not, it's going to be hell to pay. It's rote. It's binary. all the time.

00:52:52.06 – 00:53:13.00

As he gets older, the gray areas can come in and he protects him. So a lot of black women now like to have a lot of gay men around their children. Father wouldn't have it. And then what happens, a lot of these young men are being molested at an early age and their first sexual experience becomes their lifestyle. And now there is a category of HIV from 12 to 17 years old.

00:53:14.08 – 00:53:16.58

Who's giving these children AIDS? Who's giving them HIV?

00:53:18.88 – 00:53:37.92

So this whole protection thing, this instinct that men have when it comes down to their boys. My father would tell my mother, look, you, stay out of this. There's things about to happen between me and Vince that you don't need to see. Because he knew my mother couldn't handle it. He would tell you, I don't care how hard it is, y'all need to be mowed today and I'll be back at 5 o'clock.

00:53:38.00 – 00:53:43.16

It needs to be done. If it wasn't done, it was going to be hell to pay. And it wasn't emotional. It was rote.

00:53:44.76 – 00:53:54.92

We had an agreement. You didn't do it. This is where the discipline in my family, me and my brothers, come from. It came from dad. And now dad is the most affable old gentleman you can meet.

00:53:55.04 – 00:54:08.16

But he understood at that time he was raising boys to be men. And that he had to teach us in our faith. On Sunday, you went to church. You did your chores. You respected your parents.

00:54:08.30 – 00:54:17.16

You respected adults. You respected authority. And he would always tell us, the name you got is my name. It's not yours.

00:54:18.88 – 00:54:29.36

It's mine. And it reflects on me. So don't go out there and mess up my name. And he was serious about that. And we took it to heart.

00:54:30.30 – 00:54:42.90

See, you don't, when you don't have a man in the house to tell a son that and look him in his eye and let him understand, you know, because sometimes a boy can be 15, 16 years old. He's as big as I am. How is a 120, 30 pound mother going to handle him? They can't.

2Speaker 2
00:54:43.00 – 00:54:44.28

How did the boys in your family do?

1Speaker 1
00:54:44.68 – 00:54:50.74

Everybody did well. Really? Everybody. I had a brother that died young. He died at 39 years old.

00:54:51.34 – 00:55:13.14

So everyone else has done fantastically. well. You know, it's, our family story, is an American story because we believe in this country. We don't walk around talking about racism and white folks and the government. Whenever there's a problem, we look at ourselves and say, what did we do wrong?

00:55:13.16 – 00:55:26.06

It's empowering to be able to say, I can look in the mirror and I can change my circumstances. That's right. I screwed up. I can make it better and I will.

2Speaker 2
00:55:26.06 – 00:55:27.80

blame yourself first. I agree with that.

1Speaker 1
00:55:28.06 – 00:55:37.96

Always. And we hold each other up to that standard. That is not what the black community is being taught now about black preacher, black politician, black civil rights worker. Everything's the government. Everything's a white man.

00:55:38.20 – 00:55:44.28

Everything is white supremacy. As I've said before, you talk about equality. Well, who you want me to be equal to whom? point him out to me.

00:55:47.34 – 00:55:52.20

Show me the white man that you want this Ellison to tell him that I want to be equal to you.

00:55:54.34 – 00:55:58.68

It's ridiculous. You're talking about white supremacy, white supremacy, white supremacy.

00:56:02.34 – 00:56:11.62

White privilege. That's the way. it is a privilege to be white, but it's also a privilege to be black. It's a privilege to be an American. It's a privilege to be a Christian in America.

00:56:12.86 – 00:56:23.32

It's a privilege to be alive today. You know, it's talking about white supremacy. Look, I'm an heir of Jesus Christ and I'm a child of God. There's nobody superior to me.

?Unknown Speaker
00:56:24.96 – 00:56:25.32

Nobody.

1Speaker 1
00:56:26.52 – 00:56:31.04

If he is superior man out to me, I like to see it. We'll put it to the test.

00:56:32.84 – 00:56:42.62

Superior to me. You know what? We all have gifts. We're not like a herd of wildebeest that run in a flock of crows. No.

00:56:43.90 – 00:57:02.98

We're all honoree for a reason. We all have free will and he has given us all certain sparks to make us want to do certain things. When a man finds that spark and finds his gift, isn't the world a beautiful place? I mean, your air conditioner goes out, right? You call the HVAC guy and he's a great HVAC guy.

00:57:03.06 – 00:57:09.36

You love him. Your transmission goes out in your car. Your transmission guy fixes your car. You have a pain in your chest. You go to a heart doctor.

00:57:09.44 – 00:57:20.86

He fixes your heart. You're hungry. You'll get a good meal, right? You have a good landscaper. We all depend on each other and when we find these gifts, the world is a beautiful place and we are supposed to help each other find these gifts.

00:57:21.04 – 00:57:48.16

We're supposed to elevate one another, because we depend on one another. We all do, and God has given all of us gifts to live in this society and make it a whole. and instead of fighting and arguing and saying, I want your gift. I want what you got, and if you don't give it to me, I have a right to come and take it from you. That's wrong, and that's the type of envy and hatred that they put in this society.

00:57:49.56 – 00:57:58.74

This is why our 10th commandment says, thou shall not covet anything of your neighbor. Not your gift. Not your possessions. Not your wife. Nothing.

00:57:59.66 – 00:58:09.50

I am supposed to admire you. The flip side of envy is admiration. I came to this beautiful facility of yours. There's some truck calls to make me sick. No,

00:58:11.08 – 00:58:33.76

I came to somebody's place. It's beautiful. It's beautiful. God, I admire it and you have envy. You need to pay your fair share and then you feed this to children and tell them that if somebody else has something that you want, you have a right to go to government and tell the government, I want that.

00:58:33.90 – 00:58:36.94

Then government comes and puts a gun in their hand and says, you're going to give that up.

00:58:38.54 – 00:58:43.46

And we've created a sick society that believes that, and it all came out of the Civil Rights Movement.

2Speaker 2
00:58:44.30 – 00:58:44.92

What's your dad do?

1Speaker 1
00:58:45.70 – 00:59:18.84

Dad right now is retired. But for from the time dad was about maybe 23 years old, he did insurance and then from that time and then around about daddy was about maybe 35, he started a gospel music program in Brownsville and did that till three or four years ago. Dad is one of the most well-respected people in that area. Because of his influence on radio, he's charities, raised money for people, programs and.

00:59:21.90 – 00:59:49.90

he started out basically orphaned by his parents. Raised as son of sharecroppers. And then he started doing that and he aspired. And he got a job in the insurance industry, he bought us out of poverty and he had a heart attack when he was 55 years old that killed, this is not hyperbole. Tucker, killed everybody in the world that ever had it.

00:59:51.28 – 01:00:06.68

He was, he's, a medical anomaly. People from all over the world came to study him to see how he was still alive. Much less the fact that he was walking around everyday and working without needing oxygen. It's still unexplainable to doctors how he's done it.

2Speaker 2
01:00:07.62 – 01:00:08.46

How old is he?

1Speaker 1
01:00:09.28 – 01:00:17.24

He'll be 82 on his birthday, June 12th. Now, when the doctor, we were at Vanderbilt Hospital and.

01:00:19.46 – 01:00:35.42

he didn't want my sisters and my mother to hear this, so he called me and my brother in. And he said, I want y'all to hear what the doctor is telling me here. so y'all know what's really going on. And the doctor said, if your father didn't have a heart transplant, he'll be dead in six months. And we were like, we were shocked because we didn't know it was this bad.

01:00:36.54 – 01:00:49.88

And dad said, now I want y'all to also hear what I'm going to tell this doctor. He said, I know you're the best heart surgeon in the state. I appreciate what you told me, but I'm going to tell you then, I'm not going anywhere. God's going to heal me. And the doctor said, Mr.

01:00:49.96 – 01:00:52.40

Ellison, I appreciate your faith. You're going to be dead in six months if you don't get a heart.

01:00:54.16 – 01:01:20.92

That was, oh, 27 years ago. I asked dad, I said, how did you know that you were going to be healed? That you were going to be taken care of? His two grandparents were elderly, his two parents that really were very elderly, and he took care of them until the day they died, took care of them. He said, my Bible says, if you honor your father and your mother, that God promises you three score and 10 years, that's 70 years.

01:01:21.64 – 01:01:33.98

He said, I was only 55 years old. God still owes me 15 years. That's what he told me. And he's still thriving. That's how much he believes in his faith, and I learned all of that from him.

01:01:34.44 – 01:01:48.86

This absoluteness that it is a journey. And he says, I've seen the ending of the book. I've already, I came from the front, and I've gotten to the back of it, and I read the last page, and guess what? I win.

2Speaker 2
01:01:52.78 – 01:01:58.90

So, at one point, you were telling me at breakfast that your family was a.

1Speaker 1
01:01:58.90 – 01:02:03.32

touring gospel group? Yeah, yeah, man. It was fun. It wasn't fun for us, I ain't gonna lie.

01:02:05.92 – 01:02:19.02

Daddy, dad always loved music. He just always loved it. And he used to sing in quartets when he was younger. And guys wouldn't do right, you know, bringing women. Wouldn't show up drinking.

01:02:19.56 – 01:02:34.42

So he decided that he still loved to sing, but he wanted to do it in a more controlled situation. So he taught us. One day he came in with a truck load of instruments, and told us we were gonna learn to play them. Vince, here's the bass. Bubba, here's the drums.

01:02:34.96 – 01:02:50.56

And I'm gonna teach y'all to play. And we said, okay. And he taught us three-part harmony, taught us some songs, and we started going throughout the South, and we got better and better. You played bass? I played bass, and I played lead guitar, and I ended up playing keyboards by the end of it.

01:02:50.72 – 01:03:11.86

Every time somebody else got old enough to join the group, I had to teach them my instrument, and then go learn another one. And so, I taught my brother the bass, and then I went to the lead guitar. And then I had another brother come in, and then I went to the keyboards. And we did that until I was about 24 years old. We have three albums out.

01:03:12.42 – 01:03:33.38

We had a slew of 45s. I always am very, very happy when I go back to West Tennessee and people tell me that they still have our albums in their homes, and the pictures of us in their homes. And look, Tucker, we were. so, this thing was so ingrained in our DNA. We hadn't played together really in 25 years, okay?

01:03:33.64 – 01:03:55.82

So, Dad was having an anniversary, and everybody thought it would be fun for us to play a couple songs. And I'm like, this is going to be a train wreck. So, we all showed up at the church to practice. We hadn't played in 25 years, this is literally the truth. So, we all plugged in the instruments, me and my brothers and sisters, and we said, okay, first of all, we're going to set a rule here.

01:03:56.40 – 01:04:10.90

If this doesn't sound well, anybody can veto this and say, we don't do this, all right? Everybody said, all right, cool. Anybody can say, we're not doing it, and it's done. Right, cool. We plugged in, and we did a song, and we hit it, boom, and everything was like we did yesterday.

01:04:11.32 – 01:04:32.20

Really? And we all just died laughing. We just fell out laughing because we thought it'd be some rust. We thought that it would be, we forget, no. It was like we were 18 years old playing it again, and we were like, oh my God, this is ingrained in us.

01:04:33.56 – 01:04:45.14

So, we got such a big kick out of it once or twice a year. Now, we'll just show up at the house. Dad called us two weeks ago and said, hey, I want to have a jam session. That's it. I live in Virginia.

01:04:45.26 – 01:05:05.20

He lives in Brownsville. It's about maybe 10 hours away, and when Dad doesn't call to ask for much, and when he calls, we all come, and we all show up at the house, and we sit around for about five hours playing the guitars and singing and just had a great time, and that's what we do. Whatever he calls, we show up, we plug up, we play, and it's just like we never, ever left.

2Speaker 2
01:05:05.42 – 01:05:06.70

Amazing. And you're playing gospel?

1Speaker 1
01:05:07.02 – 01:05:11.60

Gospel music, yeah. Dad didn't allow blues music playing in the house. Why?

2Speaker 2
01:05:12.72 – 01:05:14.00

Even though you're in the Delta.

1Speaker 1
01:05:15.48 – 01:05:32.56

It was new then. It was when the transition was being made from all music during that time was gospel music. before Stacks and Motown. It was all church. And then Stacks and Motown started taking the music and turning it into R&B and blues.

01:05:32.94 – 01:05:42.46

And people during that time were saying that if you left gospel and went to R&B and blues, you went from the church to the devil. That was it. You went to the devil.

01:05:44.22 – 01:05:51.54

People offered my father tons of money for us to start singing R&B and blues. Tons. He would never take it. Really? Never.

01:05:51.92 – 01:05:52.14

Never.

2Speaker 2
01:05:52.40 – 01:05:55.04

So you were touring to church, you were performing in churches?

1Speaker 1
01:05:55.04 – 01:05:58.48

Churches, period. He would not take it. He wouldn't let us go secular at all.

01:06:00.14 – 01:06:16.80

And they saw it as that. You remember Al Green, the great soul singer, Al Green? When all the bad stuff started happening to Al Green, he turned back to the church because he said I shouldn't. This is my punishment. And as life went on, and you started seeing what started happening to a lot of those gospel musicians.

01:06:16.80 – 01:06:22.24

Oh, yeah. They went R&B. It kind of, you know. Their lives blew up. Yeah, yeah.

01:06:22.42 – 01:06:24.92

So again, Dad saved us from that, though.

2Speaker 2
01:06:32.20 – 01:06:40.86

So on that circuit, pardon my ignorance, I'm from La Jolla, but you just drive to another town, another church, you just roll.

1Speaker 1
01:06:40.86 – 01:06:46.86

in? Yeah, we would. Dad would have the. he would have the program set up. We didn't know where we were going, usually.

01:06:46.94 – 01:07:02.80

I'd ask him on the day off. We would get up and we'd go to church on Sunday morning. We'd load up our instruments. Then we'd go to church. Then we would leave the church, and we would drive probably an hour, maybe two hours, no more than three, but he would have two programs kind of set up in the same area.

01:07:03.62 – 01:07:13.02

So we would show up at the church. We would get out of the church about 11 o'clock. We'd show up at the other church about 1 or 2 o'clock. We'd set up. We'd sing.

01:07:13.92 – 01:07:23.28

We'd get out about maybe 5 o'clock. We'd go eat dinner somewhere. We had to be at the next church at 7.. Then we'd go sing there. We'd get out of there about 10 o'clock.

01:07:23.88 – 01:07:34.52

We'd get home about maybe 1 in the morning. We'd unload the instruments and we'd go to bed and we'd get up and we'd go to school. That was it. That's what we did.

2Speaker 2
01:07:35.20 – 01:07:36.34

That sounds grueling.

1Speaker 1
01:07:36.60 – 01:07:42.50

It was grueling. We would do it sometimes on Saturdays also. But it kept us out of trouble.

01:07:44.34 – 01:08:17.90

It gave us a type of respect in the community. The people looked out for us because they always saw us doing that and they respected us as young men doing that. They held us in high esteem for doing it. Many of the blessings that me and my family are enjoying now, people are saying, is attributed to us putting forth those efforts as children going and singing gospel music all around Tennessee. I believe that.

01:08:18.00 – 01:08:23.26

Do you still listen to gospel? Oh man, I love it. Really? Oh, I love it. Don't stop listening to it.

2Speaker 2
01:08:23.42 – 01:08:32.04

For people who didn't grow up listening to gospel music, but think it's pretty great, how would you start? Who would you recommend listening to if you got Spotify?

1Speaker 1
01:08:33.52 – 01:08:41.78

Tasha Cobb, Leonard. She's just awesome. If you ever listen to Tasha Cobb, she touches your soul. She's young and she's vibrant. She does great music.

01:08:41.94 – 01:08:44.40

Great music. Tasha Cobb, Leonard. She's very good.

01:08:46.36 – 01:08:58.54

It's gotten, it's getting more secularized now. Yeah. You hear, like Kirk Franklin and all them jumping around, and you can't really tell the soul music, I mean the gospel music from the R&B music in some ways now.

01:09:00.66 – 01:09:12.36

It has to get back to the roots of. this is not show business. This is communion. This is worship. You're not coming there to be entertained.

01:09:13.14 – 01:09:40.52

You're coming there to commune, to be involved, to worship, to praise God in song. And many times. people now will look at a concert, a hip-hop concert, and think that they are there to be fed in that way. And so you'll find gospel groups now with lights and smoke and explosions and costumes. And this is entertainment.

01:09:42.08 – 01:09:51.54

God doesn't need all that. Jesus did the Sermon on the Mount, right? He didn't even have a mic. He just walked up there and rocked it. and we still remember the sermon, because it touched people.

01:09:52.46 – 01:10:08.72

It touched people. And that's what gospel music is supposed to do. It's supposed to touch the soul. Spirit touches spirit. And when you go to a real gospel concert and it's communion and it's the people coming together to commune and worship, it's a life-changing experience.

01:10:08.82 – 01:10:09.24

Did you ever?

2Speaker 2
01:10:09.24 – 01:10:11.32

play for white audiences? We would

1Speaker 1
01:10:11.32 – 01:10:31.50

do it very, very sporadically. We would do it in Brownsville. We had this white gospel group called the Laymen, and we would do a concert together with them in the gym in Haywood County. And black and white people would come to the concert and we would sing together and we would commune together in that way. But it was very rare that we sang in front of white audiences.

2Speaker 2
01:10:31.50 – 01:10:35.02

Very rare. Huh. Is there a difference? No.

1Speaker 1
01:10:35.54 – 01:10:44.50

Not really. When you start doing southern gospel, you know, that's why Elvis was so hypnotic to people. Elvis and Jerry Lee Lewis and.

01:10:46.30 – 01:11:03.40

Johnny Cash, and I'll tell you, they go to black churches, listen to black music, they play with black people. If you ever go to Memphis and go to Sun Studios or go to Stax, you'll be amazed at the immersion of black and white people in those studios working together all the time. B.B. King and Elvis worked very close together. Knew each other.

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Black and white musicians loved and played together. Elvis stayed on Beale Street. They knew him on Beale Street. So, the music brought people together. It always did.

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Elvis would hear about a black concert, gospel singing, in Memphis. And he'd just show up. And people said, they'd look around, Elvis was in the church, said, now listen to a gospel group sing. He knew them all. But it brought them all together.

01:11:30.00 – 01:11:43.66

The music always brought people together. They always enjoyed it. And there's just this lie going on around the nation that made believe that we were all down there fighting and getting hung and lynched in a race riot. Never saw anything like that growing up.

2Speaker 2
01:11:44.78 – 01:11:52.56

It's interesting, so you were growing up at the end of segregation, literally. What were the race relations like? They were fine.

1Speaker 1
01:11:52.88 – 01:11:57.92

I just didn't see it or feel it, Tucker. It just wasn't there.

01:11:59.82 – 01:12:10.38

I was never mistreated by white people. when I was growing up. I asked my father this question. the last time I saw him. I said, Dad, how did white people treat you growing up here?

01:12:10.42 – 01:12:23.86

He said, I've never been mistreated by white people. My father actually told me that out of his mouth. I've never been mistreated by white people here. Ever. See, Martin Luther King told us he was dreaming about a day that you will not be judged by the color of your skin, by the content of your character.

01:12:24.66 – 01:12:36.98

You will be judged by the content of your character. It is inescapable. Yes. But he gave black people a fallback position. People are being judged by the content of their character, and they can say, no, it's the color of my skin.

01:12:37.66 – 01:12:45.36

You can't correct skin color. You can't correct character. So many people that didn't have what they wanted.

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weren't getting what they wanted. It wasn't based upon their skin color. It was based upon their character, but they were being told it was their skin color. Martin Luther King, for instance, had never been to a public school in his life. Went to Crozer Theological.

01:13:02.92 – 01:13:05.14

Seminary. He went to Boston University.

01:13:07.92 – 01:13:16.84

Never was hungry. His dad went to Morehouse College. Have you seen his house in Atlanta? He lived in a Victorian style, almost like a mansion. He's not a poor guy.

01:13:17.20 – 01:13:28.16

Nobody bothered him. He was a... At 26,. he was the head pastor of a large church in Montgomery, Alabama. He was driving a Cadillac, living in an upper-class black area town.

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His wife was a college graduate. That was a black intelligentsia as a white intelligentsia that had money and lived well. And then you had poor whites and you had poor blacks. It's just how the world works. Somehow or another, though, in the minds of black people in the South, they always said, I can only feel whole if I am loved by white racists.

01:13:53.56 – 01:13:54.96

I got to make this clan.

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. That's a tough one. I got to make this clan member. love me. I got to.

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And it was a type of weird ignorance in that that I can only feel good about myself if I'm sitting beside you on a bus or on a toilet, or eating a hamburger beside you. Right now, I'd only be concerned about one thing. Is the bus taking me to the same spot? Yeah. Well, I don't give a damn who I'm sitting beside on it, okay?

01:14:20.66 – 01:14:31.34

I don't want you sitting beside me while I don't want to sit beside you. Now, what about that? Muhammad Ali says it's a sick mind that wants to do something the way he's not wanted. They got a name for people like that. They call them stalkers.

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And there's no virtue in it. None. If you don't want me here, you think I'm going to fight to be beside you? We don't serve n-words. Well, I'm not one.

01:14:46.28 – 01:14:55.80

But since you called me that, you can't have my money and I don't want to eat here. Good for you. Oh, no, no. I'm going to make you take my money.

01:14:58.66 – 01:15:05.72

Insanity. Absolute insanity. When Miss Mary got a store down the street that makes better food than.

?Unknown Speaker
01:15:05.72 – 01:15:06.26

they make.

1Speaker 1
01:15:07.72 – 01:15:18.14

No, no, no. I'm going to have a sit-in because I want to ride the bus beside you. A lot of people think that the Montgomery bus boycott ended the segregation on the buses. It didn't. It was the NAACP.

01:15:18.26 – 01:15:28.94

They had a Supreme Court decision that did it. Martin Luther King's bus boycott just aggravated a lot of people. Didn't do anything. And then, people don't know this. Two years later, the black people sat in the back of the bus again because of white intimidation.

01:15:30.44 – 01:15:46.76

Yes, they went back to the back of the bus voluntarily in Montgomery, Alabama. They don't talk about that little tidbit of history. They don't tell people that Rosa Parks wasn't operative. Trained at the Highlander Folk School, a communist training camp in Montego, Tennessee. King, Ralph, Abernathy, all of them went there.

01:15:47.64 – 01:16:04.46

Led by these three communists, Dombroski and Miles Norton, and all of them. They keep their part of a history secret. Yeah, there was a communist training camp in Montego, Tennessee. They tore it down in the 60s because they found it was a communist training camp. And they're the ones that were training all these people how to use non-violence, resistance, to cause violence.

01:16:05.86 – 01:16:32.32

Cause violence. They went down to Montgomery and Birmingham and said, we're going to jug at Bull Connor until people start getting water hoses and dogs sticked on them. The concept is to cause violence, to aggravate you until you strike out at me. It's me coming up in your face, so I go, and then finally said, Vince, you better leave me alone now. I'll never touch you, but I put my finger in your face and I messed it to a point where you just, and then I said, he's talking violent.

01:16:32.32 – 01:16:45.56

You know, and those were their tactics and they did nothing good came out of it because the black people are poor in Selma and Montgomery than they've ever been. I've.

2Speaker 2
01:16:45.56 – 01:16:47.44

noticed that no one seems to care. They don't.

1Speaker 1
01:16:47.44 – 01:17:22.98

care, because it was about getting the vote for the Democratic Party so they could take it over. There were 5 million, 6 million latent black folks down south, black folks down south that they could use, and they understood that Stockholm Syndrome was going to take over and they were going to vote for the Democratic Party. As a matter of fact, if you read the history of that time, when the election of 1960 was going on, Martin Luther King Jr. and the rest of them put this thing called a blue bomb. It was a blue piece of paper that they passed all the churches in the south and it was talking about how Martin Luther King Jr.

01:17:22.98 – 01:18:10.26

was locked up in jail. The JFK had given Martin Luther King Jr. a phone call and it talked to his wife, and Richard Nixon did not, and that was enough to get 80% of the black people to vote for JFK down south during the election of 1960 and beat Nixon, who had supported the 1957 Civil Rights Act and the 1960 Civil Rights Act that gave them the right to vote anyway. But it was the blue bomb that did it and it was them again leveraging the black preacher who, if you want to talk to an ignorant joker, talk to most black preachers in the United States of America. Man, these guys don't know anything about foreign policy, don't know anything about government, all they know about is how to get money in their hands for taking black people to the polls to vote for the Democratic Party.

01:18:11.48 – 01:18:13.12

And again, if you want.

2Speaker 2
01:18:13.12 – 01:18:22.94

Is that still the case, that the get-out-the-vote operation in the south among Democrats is still heavily relying on black preachers? Oh yeah, you ever heard of.

1Speaker 1
01:18:22.94 – 01:18:42.02

souls to the polls? No. Oh yeah, man, you should look it up. Souls to the polls is an organization that's funded by George Soros and his people, and they give every Sunday before the first Tuesday in November, these churches will use church buses to.

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put their congregants into these buses and take them to the polls and have them vote. And this is unspoken, but for every black person that they can get in the bus, they get about $10, $15..

01:18:55.52 – 01:19:15.00

And in my documentary, When You Go to Hell For Me, I have a picture of Raphael Warnock and John Lewis standing in front of a souls to the polls bus. It's got souls to the polls written on it. So yeah, everybody can look up souls to the polls and they'll see that it is something. Matter of fact, before the election this year, Kamala Harris was out there talking about souls to the polls. They were out there rallying it.

01:19:16.18 – 01:19:18.66

Yeah, and it's all about the black church.

2Speaker 2
01:19:19.36 – 01:19:36.26

But why, I mean, the program of the modern Democratic Party is about is aggressively anti-Christian. Well, it is the most aggressively anti-Christian platform of any movement in the history of the country. So how could any preacher participate in that? Two things.

1Speaker 1
01:19:37.18 – 01:20:05.80

They either know it and are corrupt, or they're ignorant to it, which most of them are. You'll be amazed how many people, I mean, when you and I did the show on George Floyd in October, how it went viral. And that's when Biden's numbers started tanking because we just exposed so many lies in that interview. I mean, it just went viral. When I went to World Overcomers in Memphis, people were just talking about the interview.

01:20:05.88 – 01:20:09.80

They were showing it to me. They had it on their phones. And.

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they thanked me for educating them on my podcast, I educate. I tell people. this is what they stand for. Most people in the Republican Party and the GOP is very bad at messaging.

2Speaker 2
01:20:25.86 – 01:20:26.58

You think?

1Speaker 1
01:20:27.10 – 01:20:28.80

Them suckers can't sell a dollar for 50 cents.

01:20:30.64 – 01:20:31.00

Horrible.

01:20:32.52 – 01:20:38.06

So, if you ask black people, how do you feel about LGBTQ? I hate it. How do you feel about abortion? Can't stand it. How do you feel about guns?

01:20:38.10 – 01:20:43.92

I want my gun. How do you feel about school choice? I want school choice. How do you feel about the border? Oh, we need legal immigration.

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They'll give it to you on everything. And then you say, well, what party do you think supports your point of view? Democrats do.

01:20:51.88 – 01:20:53.14

Now, why would you think that?

01:20:54.76 – 01:21:16.30

Nobody's told them any different. So when I show them that the Democratic Party is up for abortion for the ninth month, it startles them. When I show them that Obamacare and the Democratic Party is for castrating little boys and calling them little girls, giving double mastectomies to little girls and calling them little boys, it startles them. When I show them the Democratic Party votes against school choice every single time.

01:21:17.96 – 01:21:35.16

and has used the public education to say, God is not welcome here. He's not welcome here. And that they won't allow us to let Christian education come to the public school, they're startled. They've caught on to the fact that Biden is letting all the illegals cross the border. They've caught on to that.

01:21:35.56 – 01:21:49.86

When we talk about gun control, they've finally caught on, and that's why the numbers are tanking there too. Really? Yeah. They see the Hispanics, the illegals, coming to their communities, and they're upset. Their rents are going up.

01:21:50.82 – 01:22:06.38

They are opening up. Their schools are getting crowded out. What really made them angry is when they start seeing them giving these people debit cards with $3,500 on it. They said, man, hey, and when they see, they won't take them to jail. Whereas, you know, their son.

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that gets a $50 speeding ticket and can't pay it, they'll take him downtown. Exactly right. If he can't pay his child support, they put him in jail for two years, and they won't take.

2Speaker 2
01:22:15.06 – 01:22:18.58

a Hispanic down. Yeah, our family's been here 400 years, and we can't get a free school. Yeah, exactly.

1Speaker 1
01:22:18.88 – 01:22:45.86

When they saw that there are men that cannot get work, but Joe Biden gives 400,000 work visas out to Venezuelans, and they said, hell, I need a job. They saw that in real time, up close and personal. It was, what did they say, all politics are local? They saw this locally. But see, the GOP has been not very good at explaining to people that the voucher program in D.C.

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is loved by the majority of the people that are there. Black people benefit from it, and Barack Obama and Democrats kill it every chance they get.

01:22:53.80 – 01:23:05.14

We don't put, we will say the teachers unions. Well, the teachers unions aren't on the ballot, are they? The Democrats are. You don't say teachers unions. You said the Democrats are stopping it.

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When you start talking about LGBTQ, you don't say LGBTQ. If you do, you connect it to the Democrats and say they are the ones that support it. They have to know who their enemy is, and it has to be known absolutely. When Jesus Christ went in front of the Jews when he was at the temple, and they were all wondering why they're being treated so badly. They were all angry at the Romans, right?

01:23:31.80 – 01:23:39.42

Christ said, don't worry about the Romans. Your problem is right over there. The Pharisees and the Sadducees. and they said,

01:23:41.40 – 01:24:04.72

liars, hypocrites, generations of vipers, and he just went off, and that's when they said he's got to die. He said, it's not the Romans. They're not your problem. Suckers right over there. And see, we have failed to do this, and this is why my book, The Iron Triangle, book authority, gave it number 61 on the greatest political books ever written in the history of the world, because it blew up all these myths.

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It told what the black, most black preachers and black politicians and black civil rights organizers were doing. We've held them in high esteem. Oh, the NAACP is great. Oh, you know, Martin Luther King Jr. Civil Rights Movement is great.

01:24:16.52 – 01:24:27.28

Oh, the Black Caucus is great. I said, no, they're not. They're the enemy. And then people said, your problem is not the white conservative. Your problem, Jim Jokers, right over there.

01:24:28.34 – 01:24:48.78

If you ever take a moment to sit down and talk to your white conservative neighbor, you'll see you're talking to some of the best people to walk the face of this earth. But they won't talk to you because they've been told that you hate them. And you won't talk to them because you've been told that they hate you. And who tells you that? Black preacher, black politician, black civil rights worker.

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And these people aren't stalkers. They're not going to come to you asking you to accept them. They're the type that's going to say, if you don't like me, that's your problem. You put your hands on me, you'll have another one. You're welcomed to come to my home.

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You're welcome to talk to me. If you need a good preacher, I'll find you one. If you're hungry, I'll feed you. If you need a job, you're getting one. But short of that, if you come and try to hurt anything of me or mine, I got two things to keep you off me, talking to this Jesus of my 38..

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And these people don't understand these people. I live in the Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia.

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Best people in the world. I'm a big guy. You're a big guy. We're small. compared to these men.

01:25:43.04 – 01:25:54.76

It's 6'4", 6'6", 6'8". Yeah, they make them big. Nicest guys in the world. Man, if your car get in a ditch, there'll be five of them pulling it out. If they go and they kill a deer, they'll cut some meat off and leave it on your front porch.

01:25:54.84 – 01:25:55.56

Hey, Ben, this is for you.

?Unknown Speaker
01:25:56.36 – 01:25:56.68

Just.

1Speaker 1
01:25:57.34 – 01:26:05.44

when it's harvest time, oh man, they're just piling up food. Just good neighbors, great people, but they're men.

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And you are not going to walk up to them and tell them that they're responsible for your plight and they have done nothing to you. They're not going to accept it. I don't accept it.

2Speaker 2
01:26:15.94 – 01:26:17.52

Of course not. But if.

1Speaker 1
01:26:17.52 – 01:26:23.90

you say, I'm a man. You're a man. I'm responsible for myself. You're responsible for me. I need your help.

01:26:23.98 – 01:26:25.48

They'll do anything to help you. Can I ask?

2Speaker 2
01:26:25.48 – 01:26:42.94

you two questions just about family dynamics. Why is it that women are obviously much less violent than men on average, but men, boys, who grew up in a female-headed household, tend to be more violent. What is that?

1Speaker 1
01:26:43.66 – 01:26:58.34

Men are violent. Most of us have a violent nature. Our fathers teach us to temper it. They teach us control. From the time we come home from the hospital until the time we leave his house, control yourself.

01:26:59.90 – 01:27:08.44

My father had to teach me how to sleep alone. My mother would let me sleep with her until I was 18 years old. Of course. Dad says, no. He has to learn to sleep alone.

01:27:09.74 – 01:27:18.54

No. He has to learn to sleep alone. That's the father. Oh, but, you know, my mom would pick him up, put him down, let him walk. He's too big to carry.

01:27:19.10 – 01:27:28.36

Put him down. He has to walk. She puts him down. You and I have seen mothers carrying boys three and four years old around in the store. Fathers put him down.

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They all learn to walk. Fathers know these things. He sets up under his mother. He starts crying, runs to his mother. Get away from here, my leader.

01:27:34.36 – 01:27:34.68

Exactly.

01:27:36.36 – 01:27:47.66

Dads do that. But if dad's not there, mother's going to automatically grab him and baby him and rock him. He never learns to temper himself. Even now, when it comes down to the whole LGBTQ thing, right? Do what you want to do.

01:27:47.70 – 01:27:56.38

Your father says, no, no, no. Control yourself. You can't just jump every woman you want to see. Why have a male attraction? You better control that.

01:27:57.66 – 01:27:59.52

Why? Because those are the rules, son.

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Control yourself. Do your duty.

01:28:05.78 – 01:28:14.32

But, you know, women will raise boys and get in their feelings. Oh, let your feelings guide you. No. Well, what if I don't feel like going to work?

2Speaker 2
01:28:14.32 – 01:28:14.82

tomorrow?

1Speaker 1
01:28:16.52 – 01:28:17.70

What if I feel like slapping this woman?

01:28:19.24 – 01:28:23.72

What if I feel like cussing my balls out? What if I feel like slacking on the job?

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My feelings? You and I was taught. these feelings are set aside.

01:28:31.44 – 01:28:41.66

I'm going to give you a series of rules to follow. Control yourself. When have you heard a liberal or Democrat ever say such a thing? now? Control yourself.

01:28:42.72 – 01:28:51.14

Oh, God, you want to walk out. You know, a simple thing like when you go to work in the morning time, you're supposed to act. No, no. I'm going to come in and act the way I want to act. I'm going to be flaming.

01:28:51.26 – 01:28:59.66

I'm going to work the way I want to work. I'm going to wear high heels and lipstick. Like Joe Biden and all those freaks in his cabinet. What, April Levine?

01:29:01.80 – 01:29:04.54

A person that works for the Health and Human Services? Yeah, yeah.

2Speaker 2
01:29:04.62 – 01:29:05.56

Rachel Levine. Rachel?

1Speaker 1
01:29:06.50 – 01:29:14.40

I mean, a man in a dress. It's not like you, don't know? that's a man in a dress. No, no. Sometimes you can see a man in a dress and not know it, right?

01:29:14.42 – 01:29:28.72

Right. But you know that's a man in a dress and he want everybody to lie. You got to walk around him and lie and act like he's not a man in a dress. And if you call him, sir, he's going to get an attitude and try to get you fired. So I got to walk around this guy and lie and call him man.

01:29:30.52 – 01:29:39.60

If it's wrong, don't do it. If it's a lie, don't say it. It's simple. Call me, ma'am. I'm not going to call you, ma'am.

01:29:39.78 – 01:29:40.62

You are not a woman.

01:29:43.08 – 01:30:04.62

And if you come to me about that again, I'm going to show you not a woman, because I'm going to knock you out. Stay away from me. I got this other Sam Britton guy walking around bald head, red lipstick on, a mustache with pumps and a skirt. He comes to the job interview with that on. And you're supposed to look at that boy and say first, okay, this is a joke, right?

01:30:06.14 – 01:30:14.84

Somebody's pranking me, right? No, this is real. This guy needs help. You don't make fun of him. You don't beat him up.

01:30:15.02 – 01:30:19.90

You don't. Stay right there and call somebody. We need to pray.

01:30:21.70 – 01:30:31.04

This man needs help. And we need to give him the help that he needs. They're exploiting these people. Pete Buttigieg gets married to a man. That's cool.

01:30:31.24 – 01:30:34.60

All right. But then he hires him in his cabinet. What is that? Middle finger to the church.

01:30:36.22 – 01:30:39.26

Yeah, I'm going to put this man. And then all over the world,

01:30:40.96 – 01:30:43.12

Xi Jinping, and Putin is watching this.

01:30:44.94 – 01:31:04.50

Stone cold killers looking for weakness, looking for the boys of D-Day to die. So he says it's time to take America now. Oh, you know about the Roman Empire, with the barbarians at the gate, and the men were too effeminate to defend their own city-state. Trying to hire mercenaries to do it.

01:31:06.14 – 01:31:21.68

Where had it there? And you got these guys. Again, Vladimir Putin has made it plain. He said this western, satanic way of living stops here. We're not having this LGBTQ stuff here in Russia.

01:31:21.84 – 01:31:32.14

When I have these anti-Christian, anti-American values here in Russia. I read a story inside the Washington Post that he's militarizing the people to defend his country against it. He said, no, it stops.

01:31:33.82 – 01:31:44.94

The Russian Orthodox Church said, no, it stops. You have Viktor Orban in Hungary concerned about it. It's coming. They said, no, it's not. You have Xi Jinping saying it's not coming over here.

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