Moscow Attack, Trouble for Speaker Johnson, Princess of Wales' Cancer

2024-03-23 00:15:01

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Russian authorities say several people believed responsible for an attack on a concert hall

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are in custody.

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Gunmen killed more than a hundred people on the outskirts of Moscow and left the venue

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on fire.

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I'm Aisha Roscoe.

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And I'm Scott Simon, and this is Up First from NPR News.

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In the U.S., a government shutdown averted for now.

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The House Speaker worked with Democrats to pass spending bills.

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And now there's another revolt from inside his conference.

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I filed a motion to vacate today, but it's more of a warning and a pink slip.

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And a message from the Princess of Wales.

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She has cancer.

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This, of course, came as a huge shock, and William and I have been doing everything we

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can to process and manage this privately for the sake of our young family.

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ISIS has claimed responsibility for the attack on the concert venue just outside of Moscow.

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And now Russian authorities claim the men arrested for the attack were arrested on their

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way to the Ukrainian border.

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NPR's Charles Mainz went to the scene of the attack, which has been condemned by leaders

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around the world.

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Charles, thank you for being with us.

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Good to be with you.

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What did you see and hear?

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Yeah, so this morning I took the Metro out to Crocus City Hall.

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This is the concert venue where this terrible attack took place.

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As you can hear there, there's a heavy security presence of helicopters and police and Russians

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were bringing flowers to an impromptu memorial set off to the side of this massive entertainment

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complex.

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Among the Russians there, a gentleman named Anatoly, who declined to provide his last

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name, given we were surrounded by security agents.

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But it turns out he used to work at the Crocus venue.

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And that's what happened.

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I knew a lot of people here.

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So here Anatoly says he knew a lot of the people working at the event last night and

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felt obligated to pay his respects.

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He said that some might be injured, others were of course dead.

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And he called this all a big tragedy, which of course it is.

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Charles, can you take us through what we know about what happened?

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Well, the attackers, who appear to number up to four, perhaps five in number, based

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on some of the videos we've seen, they entered the venue armed with Kalashnikovs and explosives

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shortly before a sold-out concert by a veteran Soviet-era rock band called Picnic.

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They were scheduled to start their show.

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Witness video shows the gunmen firing point-blank on civilians, on security guards near the

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entrance before heading to the main concert hall.

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A fire then broke out after the attackers detonated explosives, engulfing the venue

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in smoke and flames that quickly spread, sending the public scurrying.

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Some people hid in bathrooms and basements, others were rescued from the roof or broke

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through glass to make their way out, and of course many never did.

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The whole complex caught fire, and today I could see the facade of the building.

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It's just now gutted.

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Moreover, amid the chaos, the attackers got away.

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Russian authorities say they've caught the attackers and accomplices.

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What's known about them?

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Well, Russia's investigative committee said it arrested 11 individuals in connection with

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the attack today, four apparently for direct involvement.

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Leaked data of their passports, at least online, claims that several of these men are from

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Central Asia, in fact from the former Soviet Republic of Tajikistan, and yet they were

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detained on their way to the Ukrainian border, where Russian security services suggest these

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men had, quote, contacts.

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Now, as you noted in the intro, an Islamic State group has claimed responsibility in

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a statement for this attack, and let's not forget the U.S. Embassy had publicly warned

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It had credible reports that extremists were preparing an attack at a public event like

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a concert in Moscow, a charge that Russian President Vladimir Putin later said was fear-mongering,

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and indeed the intelligence was off.

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The U.S. warning came out two weeks ago, said it would happen within the next 48 hours,

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but as one gentleman today, who spoke with me off the record, said, how is it the U.S.

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knew and our own security forces didn't?

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And Pierce Charles Mains in Moscow, thanks so much.

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Thank you.

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A familiar drama is playing out on Capitol Hill.

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A House speaker works with Democrats to pass spending bills to keep the government open,

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and then his job is threatened.

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I do believe we've seen this before.

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Last time it was Kevin McCarthy.

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This time it's Mike Johnson.

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And for our political correspondent, Susan Davis joins us now.

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Susan, thanks so much for being with us.

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Happy to be here, Scott.

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Shortly after the House passed a package of six spending bills on Friday, Georgia Republican

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Marjorie Taylor Greene introduced a resolution to remove Mike Johnson from leadership.

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This is not personal against Mike Johnson.

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He's a very good man, and I have respect for him as a person, but he is not doing the job.

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Is this the end for the speaker?

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You know, it could be.

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The vast majority of House Republicans still support Speaker Johnson.

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It's roughly this same small group of hard-right conservatives who continue to be angry that

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a Republican speaker cannot deliver clear conservative wins in a divided government.

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But they've always sort of wanted an impossible outcome, and Johnson understood this.

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There's only so much you can do when Democrats control the Senate and the White House, and

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he chose stability in the government versus shutting it down with no endgame out of it.

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But House Republicans have been infighting since the ousting of former Speaker McCarthy.

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It's been a really unruly majority.

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There's a lot of bad blood.

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And remember, the current House rules still make it easy for just a handful of lawmakers

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to remove the speaker.

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Johnson has a short reprieve.

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The House is going to be adjourned for two weeks until after Easter, but this is something

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that they could confront in April.

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Sue, what role might Democrats play?

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Because they voted unanimously against Kevin McCarthy, but does Speaker Johnson engender

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any more sympathy?

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He does, yes.

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Hakeem Jeffries, he's the minority leader, the Democrat from New York.

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He has publicly said that if the motion to vacate were to happen again, some Democrats

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might vote to save him and keep him as speaker.

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As Jeffries has reasoned it, they can trust Johnson where they couldn't trust McCarthy.

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He has kept his word through these budget negotiations.

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He did rely on Democratic votes and negotiated in good faith to pass them.

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And there is still one must-pass item before the election, at least for the White House

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and for Democrats, which is that money for Ukraine.

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And once again, that means Democrats could have some leverage over the speaker and over

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the Republican majority, but that, again, is still a pretty difficult position for a

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speaker to be in.

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And Ukraine aid is an issue that splits the Republican Party, but what kind of path might

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there be to make it through the House?

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You know, Johnson has publicly committed to approving or at least bringing up for a vote

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some form of foreign aid.

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It's not necessarily going to be that full $95 billion package that the Senate approved.

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Some Republicans are talking about making it a loan or putting other terms on the money.

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But it seems pretty clear that there is a bipartisan majority of votes to pass aid to

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Ukraine in the House.

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There has been enormous pressure on Speaker Johnson from the national security community,

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from the White House, and from the other top three congressional leaders saying, we have

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to do this.

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But Donald Trump opposes it.

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And there is deep opposition to this money among Republican base voters.

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So far, Donald Trump continues to back Johnson for speaker, but, you know, could that change?

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That could weigh on lawmakers here, and it adds to the precarious nature of his hold

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on the job and how long he can hold on to it and whether he can hold on to it through

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the election.

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And so what's the status of the impeachment investigation of President Biden?

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It seems like it's on ice.

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One of the leading investigators, Oversight Chairman James Comer, he's a Republican from

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Kentucky.

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He said this week that the path forward might shift to possible criminal referrals to the

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Justice Department.

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That, of course, does not mean that the Justice Department will investigate.

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It just means they could.

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It seems pretty clear Republicans don't have the votes to impeach Joe Biden on the House

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floor.

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Democrats are obviously not going to help them on that one, Scott.

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But this is a tough vote that just got tougher.

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Ken Buck of Colorado is a House Republican who left the House early on Friday.

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He retired early.

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That same day, Mike Gallagher, he's a Republican from Wisconsin, announced he'd already said

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he was going to retire, but he announced he's going to leave in a couple of weeks.

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Gallagher was one of just three Republicans who voted against the impeachment of Homeland

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Secretary Mayorkas.

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He condemned his party for using impeachments for purely political purposes.

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But also what that means, Scott, is when Mike Gallagher leaves, Speaker Johnson is going

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to have a one-vote margin in his majority to pass legislation or any other matter through

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the House.

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And to your political correspondent, Susan Davis, thanks so much.

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You're welcome.

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The reaction to a video of the princess of Wales was first shock, followed by concern

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and then, for some, shame.

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Kate had been the target of rumor and speculation for two months about her health, her whereabouts,

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about a photoshopped picture and about her marriage.

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It turns out that all the while, she was dealing with something very serious, cancer.

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I'm sure Lauren Frayer has been covering this from London.

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Lauren, thanks for being with us.

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Thanks for having me, Scott.

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Tabloids more circumspect now?

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For now, at least.

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Today, the headlines in all the papers here say things like, Kate, you are not alone,

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Kate, cancer shock, all sort of extolling love and support for the princess.

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That's a big turnaround from even a couple days ago, when the UK tabloids were speculating

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about whether Kate's abdominal surgery was actually a nervous breakdown, why that Mother's

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Day photo of her and her children was photoshopped, what the palace was keeping from the public.

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Stephen Colbert on his TV show joked about rumors that Kate's husband, Will, was having

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an affair.

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The headline in the Atlantic magazine now reads, I hope you all feel terrible now.

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Here's a woman named Sheena Best, whom we caught up with at London's Victoria Station.

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It's so sad.

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We were saying it's really sad that she's been hounded in the press for like the last

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couple of weeks and then for that news to come out.

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It's so, it's so sad.

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Well, I hope all the press do feel really guilty, because God help her, like it's just

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really sad.

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So there's definitely some shame and introspection about the media culture here.

2Speaker 2
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Lauren, what do we actually know about the diagnosis of the princess and her treatment

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plan?

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We don't know much.

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We know she was hospitalized for 13 days back in January for abdominal surgery.

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At the time, the guidance we got from the palace was that this was not cancer.

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But then Kate said in this video last night that post-op tests showed cancer had been

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present.

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The palace says she started treatment in late February.

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They're calling what she's getting, though, preventative chemotherapy.

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Now, as you know, Scott, King Charles also has cancer.

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For both him and Kate, we don't know the type of cancer.

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We don't know the stage, where the treatment is happening, for how long it'll last, none

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of that.

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The king did issue a statement last night saying he's proud of his daughter-in-law and

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he's in touch with her often.

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How did they manage to make this video without anyone knowing it was coming?

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Yeah, the palace tells us it was recorded two days before its release, somewhere outdoors

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in Windsor.

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That's west of London where Kate and William live.

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It was filmed by a BBC Studios camera person.

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Only a handful of people knew about its existence.

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Kate is shown sitting on a garden bench, dressed casually, looking relaxed, her hair in waves

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down her shoulders.

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And it seems designed to reassure people, you know, that she's OK.

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But also to kind of tell them to back off, in the most polite royal words, of course.

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Here's part of the video.

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We hope that you'll understand that as a family, we now need some time, space and privacy while

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I complete my treatment.

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She mentions her three children.

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The youngest is just five years old.

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She says it's taken some time to explain this to them.

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She also talks about her husband, William, and calls him a, quote, great source of comfort

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and reassurance.

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And, of course, he's the heir to the throne.

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His father and his wife are now both in treatment for cancer.

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How does all this affect the monarchy?

4Speaker 4
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Well, this is already what they're calling a slimmed down monarchy, you know, with Prince

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Harry and Prince Andrew both having stepped down from royal duties.

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And of course, this is after the loss of Queen Elizabeth around 18 months ago.

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With the king getting his own cancer treatment, Queen Camilla has been stepping in to handle

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some of his duties.

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So this will overall be a bigger workload for an ever smaller number of working royals.

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And you know, Scott, Kate ranks absolutely number one in polls of which royal is most

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beloved here.

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The palace had said she would be back on duty sometime after Easter.

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That looks pretty uncertain now.

2Speaker 2
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Lauren Frayer, thank you.

4Speaker 4
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You're welcome.

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