The Sunday Story: Notes from an Eclipse Chaser

2024-04-07 00:23:45

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Tomorrow, April 8th, along a narrow, arcing swath of America, people will experience a

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total solar eclipse.

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Day will disappear and the sky will turn dark.

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The air will cool, night creatures will awaken, street lights will begin to shine.

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And then it will be over, as if it never happened.

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Everything will return to the way it was, except perhaps for those who witnessed it.

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A total solar eclipse is the closest thing to space travel that you can experience without

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leaving the surface of the Earth.

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This is David Barron, giving a TED Talk in 2017.

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He's a science writer and author of the book American Eclipse, the nation's epic race to

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catch the shadow of the moon and win the glory of the world.

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It's like for a few minutes, you are suddenly transported to some alien world.

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It's like you're living in some sci-fi movie, seeing a sky you've never seen, seeing the

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universe in a whole new way.

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It really can change your outlook for years to come, if not the rest of your life.

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Barron's goal is to get as many people to witness a total solar eclipse as possible.

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To view one, you need to be in the moon's shadow that's called the umbra.

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He calls himself an umbraphile.

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An umbraphile is a fancy word for what I am, and that's an eclipse chaser.

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It means a shadow lover, and that's what I am.

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I love being in the shadow of the moon.

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The eclipse that started it all for David was in 1998 in Aruba.

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And I went there thinking this would be an interesting astronomical event to watch, and

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it just absolutely bowled me over.

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It changed my life.

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It was the most spectacular thing I'd ever seen.

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Today, to honor tomorrow's eclipse, we're sharing an episode of NPR's Life Kit Podcast.

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NPR's scientist-in-residence, Dr. Regina Barber, who is an astrophysicist, talks to David Barron

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about the power of a solar eclipse and how it can change your sense of the universe.

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Stay with us.

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We're back with the Sunday story.

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I'm handing it over now to NPR's astrophysicist, Regina Barber,

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talking to science writer David Barron about a total solar eclipse.

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Let's talk about that path of totality.

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What exactly is it?

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A total solar eclipse is visible only along a narrow path that snakes across the surface of the Earth.

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It's called the path of totality, and that is literally where the moon's shadow strikes the Earth.

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So there's a broad area where you can see a partial eclipse, but there's a small zone,

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a circular or oval zone, that is only there that the moon completely blocks the sun.

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So in order to see the total eclipse, you need to be in this so-called path of totality.

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And that oval shape that you're talking about, that's called the umbra, right?

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And then there's a bigger one.

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The penumbra, exactly.

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So there's a large zone of partial shadow, which is called the penumbra,

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and a small zone of full shadow, and that's the umbra.

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And it's where the umbra races across the Earth.

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That is the path of totality.

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And what's the path going to be like this year?

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So this year, in terms of crossing land, it will cross over Mexico

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and then come into the U.S. in southern Texas, cross to the northeast,

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and eventually get to New England and exit into the maritime provinces of Canada

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before heading out over the North Atlantic.

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And when's the next time the U.S. is going to experience kind of like a cross-state total solar eclipse?

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The next significant total solar eclipse in the United States won't be until 2045.

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The date is August 12, 2045.

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That one will go from California to Florida and will cross my home state of Colorado.

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So that's one I'm particularly looking forward to, and I've got it on my calendar.

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By the way, the U.S. will see a total solar eclipse in 2044,

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but it won't be as far-reaching as the 2045 solar eclipse.

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Either way, take away one.

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This is your chance to see a total eclipse.

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It's a big one, and the next one isn't happening across the U.S. for another 20 years.

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So can you tell me what it feels like to experience this total solar eclipse in that moment?

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Just the totality part.

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It is surreal and beautiful and absolutely magnificent, and it comes on all of a sudden.

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As soon as the moon blocks the last rays of the sun,

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it's like you're plunged into this weird twilight in the middle of the day,

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and you look up at the sky, and the blue sky has been torn away.

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You know, the blue sky overhead on any given day

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acts as a screen that keeps us from seeing what's in space, and suddenly that's gone.

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So you can look into the middle of the solar system and see the sun and the planets together.

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It's like you've left the solar system and are looking back from some other world.

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And I've been told the streetlights turn on, animals start sounding different.

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Can you tell me about the sounds and the feelings you're feeling?

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Yeah, so a total solar eclipse, it's so much more than something you just see with your eyes.

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It's something you experience with your whole body.

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Birds will be going crazy, crickets may be chirping.

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If you're around other people, they're going to be screaming and crying.

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The air temperature drops because the sunlight suddenly turned off.

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So I was on a mountaintop in 2017, and it got chilly.

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And also you're just immersed in the moon's shadow.

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It's like this palpable thing that has moved over you.

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You get that the hair stands up on the back of your neck.

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It's so weird, it just doesn't feel real.

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You say in your TED Talk your eyesight seems like it was failing.

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Can you go into that a little bit more?

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The lighting effects are very weird because before you get to the total eclipse,

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you have a progressive partial eclipse as the moon slowly covers the sun.

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So over the course of an hour, an hour and a quarter, the sunlight will be very slowly dimming.

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It's as if you're in a room in a house and someone is very slowly turning down the dimmer switch.

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And for most of that time, your eyes are adjusting and you don't notice it.

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But then there's a point at which the light's getting so dim that your eyes can't adjust.

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And weird things happen so that your eyes are less able to see color.

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And so it's as if the landscape is losing its color.

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Also, there's an effect where the shadows get very strange.

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Yes, I remember seeing that and pointing it out to my kid.

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I'm like, look at these shadows, they're crescents.

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Right. Well, there are two things.

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One is if you look under a tree, the spaces between leaves or branches will act as pinhole projectors.

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So they will project onto the ground the shape of the sun.

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And so you'll see tiny little crescents everywhere.

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But there's another effect which is as the sun goes from this big orb in the sky

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to something that's much, much smaller, shadows grow sharper.

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And so as you're nearing the total eclipse, I mean, if you have the sun behind you

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and you look at your shadow on the ground, you might see individual hairs on your head.

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It's just very odd.

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And sometimes you can't quite put your finger on what it is that you're seeing,

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but you know that it's wrong.

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And it just gets wronger and wronger as totality approaches.

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Takeaway two, the solar eclipse is a full body experience.

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Be prepared for weird effects on your eyes and your ears and your overall vibe.

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And some people might say, OK, I haven't planned to go yet.

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Is it too late? The partial eclipse is just as good.

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Like maybe I'm close to the path of totality.

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What will they see during a partial eclipse?

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Right. So a partial solar eclipse is a very interesting experience.

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And if you're in an area where you see a deep partial eclipse,

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the sun will become a crescent like the moon.

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You can only look at it, of course, with eye protection.

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Don't look at it with the naked eye.

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The light can get eerie. It's fun.

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But it is not one thousandth as good as a total eclipse.

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A total eclipse is a fundamentally different experience

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because it's only when the moon completely blocks the sun

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that you can actually take off the eclipse glasses

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and look with the naked eye at the sun.

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And you will see a sun you've never seen before.

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The bright surface is gone.

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And what you're actually looking at is the sun's outer atmosphere,

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which is called the solar corona.

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And it's the most dazzling sight in the heavens.

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It's this beautiful textured thing.

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It looks sort of like a wreath or a crown.

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And it's made out of tinsel or strands of silk.

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It shimmers in space.

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It's different every time.

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The shape is constantly changing.

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It's the most beautiful thing you've ever seen in the heavens.

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And you will only see that if you're in the path of the total eclipse.

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And so I know it sounds like I'm exaggerating.

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But if you are in an area where you're seeing a 99% partial eclipse...

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It's not the same.

1Speaker 1
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It is not at all the same.

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Drive those few miles. Get into the path of totality.

2Speaker 2
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You heard the man.

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A partial eclipse is cool, but not 1,000th as good as a total eclipse.

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Takeaway 3.

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See if you can drive just a little further to be in an optimal spot.

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And it's simple to find that spot.

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Well, it's so much easier to be an eclipse chaser now.

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When I started, you know, there wasn't much on the Internet.

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You'd have to get a book or get from NASA some eclipse bulletin

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saying what eclipses are coming next.

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Now you can very easily find online interactive maps of, frankly,

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every total solar eclipse for the next 5,000 years.

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The eclipse chasing community is very tight-knit.

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And there are folks who will share their expertise.

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There's an eclipse chaser named Jay Anderson.

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He's a meteorologist in Canada.

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He is always analyzing climate data for eclipses a few years out.

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He has a website called EclipsoFile.

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File with a P-H.

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EclipsoFile.com.

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And he will post his analysis of, okay, along this eclipse track,

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here's where you're most likely to see it.

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Here's what the weather patterns are for that time of year.

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And other eclipse chasers who are professional cartographers,

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and they'll put together these beautiful maps

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helping you to decide where to go.

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And there are also listservs and Facebook groups

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where people will share ideas.

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There are several different smartphone apps available now

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for the total eclipse.

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One is called Totality by Big Kid Science that I like.

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It's free.

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It'll tell you for where you are precisely to the second

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when the eclipse will begin as a partial eclipse,

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when totality will begin, when it will end.

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There are some that will actually count down the seconds for you

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and tell you when totality is about to end.

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So those can be good too, but you certainly don't need them.

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Is it worth going to a spot where other people are going to be watching with you?

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You know, I've had all sorts of different experiences,

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and they're all fun.

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I've gone to some total eclipses where I've been pretty much by myself,

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like in the Faroe Islands way up in the North Atlantic

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where there were other people there,

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but I just found a remote spot to watch it by myself.

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In Munich in 1999, I was on a rooftop at the hotel

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and looking out over the city with hundreds of thousands of other people,

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and that was a great experience to be part of this collective shout

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that rose from the city as the moon's shadow came in.

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And that's one of the reasons I keep going back

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is there are so many ways to have a total eclipse experience.

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They're all different.

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So is it too late right now to get to the path of totality and see it?

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What would you say to somebody who's like,

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I haven't reserved a hotel, I haven't thought about this until right now,

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days before?

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If you haven't made any plans yet, you are late,

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but know you are absolutely not too late.

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You're not too late until totality sets in.

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And really, I mean, first of all,

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you could just decide, wherever you are in the country,

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to hit the road at midnight and drive 10 hours

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to get into the path of totality.

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I know people who've done that, and they're very glad they did.

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Back in 2017, I gave a TED Talk encouraging people

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to go to the path of totality,

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and afterwards I got these glowing emails from people who said,

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you know, I saw your TED Talk a few days before the eclipse.

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I decided to drop everything.

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I drove to Tennessee.

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I got stuck in the most horrible traffic ever, coming home,

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and you know it was so absolutely worth it.

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So it's definitely not too late.

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However, be prepared to be self-sufficient for a while,

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because you may get stuck in terrible traffic.

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Your self-service may not work if the area is flooded with people.

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So print out a map of where you're going,

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in case your GPS doesn't work.

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Bring cash.

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The ATMs conceivably will run out of cash.

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It's possible that you'll have trouble getting gas.

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Fill up your car.

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I don't want to suggest it's going to be the apocalypse,

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but there will be areas that will see apocalyptic traffic,

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particularly after the eclipse.

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It's like you're leaving the basketball game or the concert

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and rushing back to the parking lot to leave,

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but so is everyone else.

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Hang out for a while, wait for the big surge of traffic to go,

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and then head on out.

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Takeaway number four.

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The traffic is going to be rough.

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Be prepared with enough gas, water, and snacks.

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Or just wait a day or at least a few hours to go home.

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Now let's get to the nitty-gritty.

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What about equipment?

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So what do people need to watch the total solar eclipse,

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or any eclipse, without damaging their eyes?

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So the two most important things to bring are eclipse glasses,

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which if you get them early enough, they don't cost very much.

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They're all at $1 or $2, but they probably will run out,

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so you want to get them as soon as you can.

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And the cheapest ones, they just have cardboard frames

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and these Mylar lenses.

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I've seen them at REI, at grocery stores, on Amazon.

1Speaker 1
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Some libraries are handing them out for free.

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But get those, and also bring your eyes.

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If you're in the path of the total eclipse,

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as soon as it becomes total, take the eclipse glasses off,

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because if you don't take them off, you're not going to see anything.

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And it's perfectly safe while the surface of the sun is covered.

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The solar corona, the sun's outer atmosphere,

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is as bright as the full moon.

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So that, all you need is your eyes.

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There is a way to observe a partial solar eclipse that's perfectly safe,

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where you don't need eclipse glasses,

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and that is by making a pinhole projector.

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So just take a piece of cardboard or a paper plate

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and poke a tiny little hole in it,

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and then don't look through it,

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but let the sunlight go through it onto another surface.

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And where the sunlight has been projected through that hole

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onto another surface, you'll see,

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instead of a circular sun, you'll see a little crescent

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as the sun shrinks to a crescent.

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So that's a fun thing to do.

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Honestly, I think it's more fun and easier just to use the eclipse glasses.

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But if you can't get them,

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that's another way to observe the phases of the partial eclipse.

2Speaker 2
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That's takeaway number five.

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Pack those eclipse glasses.

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Maybe make a homemade pinhole projector.

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And be patient.

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So, I'm getting ready. I'm getting so excited.

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I'm going to go to Buffalo.

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I'm really worried the weather isn't going to be great.

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Can you tell me a little bit more about, like,

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how weather conditions can affect your experience?

1Speaker 1
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Obviously, you really want to be under clear skies for a total eclipse

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because you want to see the sun when it's covered by the moon.

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You want to see the solar corona.

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You want to see the colors of the sky.

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It's twilight overhead, but on the horizon all around you,

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it looks like sunset and orange glow.

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You'll be able to see planets if the sky is clear.

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You'll see Jupiter and Mars and Saturn and Venus.

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That will be cool.

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So the clearer the sky, the better.

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If you're under cloudy skies, that's not great.

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But, first of all, you will certainly feel the moon's shadow coming over you.

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Because even if it's a socked-in day,

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it'll go from being gray to being black to being gray again.

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It will feel very weird.

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Also, unless it's just completely overcast with no chance,

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you may get lucky.

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In fact, total eclipses change the weather.

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Under some conditions, they can cause clouds to clear up

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because all of a sudden the sunlight and the sun's warmth are being cut off.

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That changes the evaporation of moisture from the surface and convection.

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Sometimes, as the partial eclipse is progressing,

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the clouds will go away or a hole will open up in the clouds.

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That's happened to me a couple of times.

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In those, I just count to pure luck.

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But I was in Australia in 2012,

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and it was raining during the partial eclipse,

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and everyone was really glum.

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Then, about ten minutes before totality,

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this hole opened up in the clouds in exactly the right place.

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I got to see the whole total eclipse.

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So don't give up, even if it's not looking good.

2Speaker 2
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You're giving me so much hope.

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I love this, David. Thank you so much.

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Last question.

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Why is it your life mission to get as many people as you can

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to the path of totality to experience this wonderful event,

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this total solar eclipse?

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Why should somebody see one before they die?

1Speaker 1
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I was given the advice back in 1994 by an astronomer named Jay Pasachoff,

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who was the biggest eclipse evangelist ever.

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He was a solar astronomer at Williams College

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who went to every solar eclipse, total or partial,

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partly because it was his job, it was his study,

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but also he just loved the experience,

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and he encouraged everyone he knew to go see a total eclipse.

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It was because of his advice to me,

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when he said in all seriousness that before I died,

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I owed it to myself to see a total eclipse,

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and I went to see my first total eclipse,

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and he was so right, and I am so grateful to Jay Pasachoff,

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who died a little over a year ago,

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and I really see it as my responsibility to pass this on to others.

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Not everyone becomes an eclipse chaser,

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but I don't know anyone who's seen a total eclipse

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who hasn't been bowled over by it,

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and hasn't been grateful that they were encouraged to go see it.

2Speaker 2
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Thank you so much for talking to me about total solar eclipses.

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You've given me so much hope. I'm so excited.

1Speaker 1
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Well, Regina, I hope that you and the whole country

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have clear skies on April 8th.

2Speaker 2
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Thank you so much.

3Speaker 3
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That was NPR's Regina Barber talking to science writer

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and umbrophile David Barron about the power of a total solar eclipse.

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His book about the 1878 eclipse is called American Eclipse,

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a nation's epic race to catch the shadow of the moon

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and win the glory of the world.

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You can check out more Life Kit episodes at NPR.org slash Life Kit.

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This episode of Life Kit was produced by Sylvie Douglas.

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Life Kit's visuals editor is Beck Harlan.

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The digital editor is Malika Gharib,

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and Megan Cain is the supervising editor.

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Beth Donovan is the executive producer.

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Engineering support came from Robert Rodriguez.

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Justine Yan produced this episode for The Sunday Story.

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I'm Aisha Roscoe.

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Up first, we'll be back tomorrow with all the news you need to start your day.

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Until then, have a great rest of your weekend.

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I'm Heath Druzan, and on the new season of Extremely American,

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I'll take you inside the movement.

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Listen to Extremely American from Boise State Public Radio,

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part of the NPR network.

2Speaker 2
23:20.68 – 23:24.18

On the TED Radio Hour, MIT psychologist Sherry Turkle,

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her latest research into the intimate relationships people are having with chatbots.

3Speaker 3
23:30.58 – 23:37.70

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That's on the TED Radio Hour from NPR.

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