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I'm David Farrier and New Zealander, accidentally marooned in America and I want to figure out what makes this country tick. Now. occasionally, on Flightless Bird, we break from the usual format and do something a little bit different. You saw that with Flights of Fancy about a month ago, where we got your expert insights into very American things, like that dolphin and seal trainer for the Navy, and also with American Gods, where we focus on an American legend. So today we're doing another new thing that we'll do from time to time when we feel like it.
It's a top 10 list. It's basically a fun way for us to explore certain American topics that fit neatly into a list form like this episode. Our top 10 American TV show episodes. There isn't much more to explain, really. so get ready to figure out what your favorite TV episodes are, compare them with ours and let's get on with it, because this is the top 10 American TV show episodes, episode.
Oh, and a quick note, because in this episode we're playing our favorite moments from our favorite TV episodes. there will be some spoilers here. If there's a show we stumble on that you don't want spoiled, just use the skip button. In saying that most of these shows have been out for ages, some of them for decades. so hopefully you've already seen them, and this episode simply encourages you to have a big re-watch session.
Well, well, well. Well, well, well. I'm thrilled. I'm really excited about this.
You are excited. We're doing something a little bit different. We are going to do a top 10 episode and occasionally we'll do these where we break down our top 10 American things. and this week. What are we doing?
We're doing our top 10 favorite American TV episodes. Not shows, but specific episodes that we rate as being the one. Now, because there's three of us, we've broken this up in a slightly unusual way. We're each bringing our top three episodes to the table, plus a.
little bonus. third. Yeah, an honorable mention. I want to just give a little backstory. Some episodes ago you did a true crime episode and in it you listed your favorite documentaries, and that sparked this idea, because that was.
really fun hearing that list. It was really fun. It sparked other people to talk about what was on their list. Yeah. I think also people just love a good.
listicle. I sure do. Yeah. So it made us think oh, maybe we should do some more lists like this that are sort of American-esque. I have made a fatal flaw.
I made a mistake. Okay. One of mine, but I refuse to kick it off. the list is not.
American. Okay. Was it made by Americans, maybe, or made in America? No. I had said that to David too.
yesterday because my third I went through like three that were not American and then had to go back and pick. It's interesting to look at what.
shows come to mind and which ones are American and which ones are not. That's sort of an interesting thought experiment as well. I played this game.
with my friends for years. This is a tale as old as time, a classic, and every time I play it with people, I come up with new ones like I forget, and it's so. it's a fun game and it could go on for quite a long time. And I think it's one thing to have.
your top three or your top ten or whatever shows, but to narrow it down to an episode is also a really difficult thing. And it's a weird assignment as well, because we never really talked about this. but are we picking episodes that are just our favorites? Are they episodes that we would want to show to a friend to get them into that show? How did you approach narrowing down what the?
episode or the show would be? I approached as my personal favorites. that I think, from tops to bots is incredible. But I didn't do Prestige. Obviously, I could pick Red Wedding or The Suitcase on Mad Men, which is an incredible episode of TV.
I've never seen Mad Men. Oh my god, that's such a good episode of TV, but I didn't pick it. I'm like we all know those. I went more.
personal. This is great, and I think we can all learn about each other, and I'm also super curious because we don't know what each other's episodes are. if there's any crossover. Me too. Let's go one at a time.
I think you kick off. Are.
we doing one one at a time? So number one, number one, number one. Are we ranking or are we... I've ranked mine, but we don't really have to. Okay.
I don't have mine.
ranked, but I can rank. No, let's not rank, then. Okay.
I agree with you. I think we should circle it. Yeah, circle it. Okay. do you want to kick it off, Monica?
I'm so nervous. Can you plug her in? I can plug her in. Okay. I feel really nervous about this for some.
reason. I don't know why. I know there's no stakes. Are you worried how we'll?
react or do you feel we're gonna see you? We see the core of what Monica loves. I think it's that. Like, I feel really vulnerable. No, I get it.
I completely understand. This is like the ultimate thing, where maybe this is only in my world, but you're at a certain level, like at the end of a night and everyone's a bit drunk and you put on YouTube to show people clips and there's a certain dread when someone isn't getting it and you're like oh no. Yeah. I'll pick the wrong clip. And you guys.
are gonna feel like you have to be like yeah, that's good. No. Honesty is the name.
of the game. Okay. But also kindness. So don't worry, we're not gonna tear into.
things. Why don't I start with the non-american show? because if I was ranking, this is my number one. Okay. Okay, let's do it.
Okay. Well, do you guys have?
any guesses? I would say Bridgerton maybe, or what's? what's the other one that's like Bridgerton? The Crown. The Crown.
The Crown is what I think. Oh, that's a great.
guess. I do love that show. No. Do you have a guess? I have no idea where this is.
going. I don't really know a lot about your TV watching habits. There's a part.
of me that wants to just play audio so that you guys can get it. Like or yeah, like kind of guess. Should I try it? Let's try it. Okay, ready?
The whole episode? No. This is a scene. This is my favorite scene. You nailed it.
Fleabag. Yeah, it is. Oh yeah, what a show. What a fucking show. That was one of mine that I replaced.
Okay, well, I'm gonna play it. It's kind of long, but oh well.
Oh, it's sitting there. Do you want to watch it now that you know it? Oh, the hot.
priest. They always lie. It'll magically come in a minute.
Yeah.
They're really into each other, those two. It's nice. They really pulled it off. Was your sister okay? She seemed a bit on the edge.
Do her work thing. Wow. Dedicated. Addicted.
It's God, isn't it?
Yeah.
Wow. Damn.
You know. the worst thing is that I love you.
I love you.
And then I don't. No, let's just leave that out there just for a second on its own.
I love you. It's so sad. This is the worst.
Let's get together.
It'll pass.
I think I'll walk. Okay.
See you Sunday? I'm joking. you're never, ever allowed in my church again.
I love you too.
Oh, and now any listeners who are familiar with Fleabag will be crying.
their little hearts out right now. I have never cried so hard in a show than when I.
saw that for the first time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Unrequited love right?
When he says it'll pass, you're just like oh. It's so devastating. I have a little pin. It's a heart. It's two pieces, and on one side says I love you, and on the other side it says it'll pass.
Oh. This is the same genre, the same thought behind past lives, which is why I also was puddle in that movie, or just sometimes it just can't work out. Yeah, and on paper it should.
or emotionally it should, but it's just not. And it's yeah, it's the worst. I think that perfectly captures that. You're a fan of the episode as well, right, Rob? Yeah, I was going to pick episode.
one of that season where you first meet Andrew Scott as the priest, and they're at that crazy.
dinner with the family. Yeah, what a show. We're going to spoil a lot of these shows. Definitely.
They've also. they've been out for a long time, and I'd say this is like a good excuse to revisit this stuff. Yeah. God, that well look as a non-American show. it's really good.
I can't not.
include it. Yeah, it's too good. I think one of my favorite scenes ever is from the pilot of that, where she's masturbating to an Obama speech and her boyfriend catches him. Also. yeah, the show is.
also. it's so funny and so when it hits with those emotional moments. it's like a big gut punch. It is.
it is. And you're a hot priest. Hot priest, baby. Okay, now your turn. Okay.
Now, okay, David, you texted us yesterday saying that you started bawling. Yeah, no, I did. I cried a lot, so I'm not gonna play.
What Made Me Cry until the end. That's my last one. Okay. We'll get to that. Okay.
I'm gonna start with an episode of The X-Files, which is a show that, in New Zealand, was on TV at about 8 30 at night. I'd either stay up really late and watch it, or I'd tape it on the VHS player and then get up early the next day before school and watch it. I loved The Adventures of Mulder and Scully and I loved The X-Files. It was almost part of my personality as a kid. And there's one episode in particular called Home, and I'm just gonna play.
I found the trailer for it that originally aired. Remember.
the house. your parents warned you to stay away from this Friday. Oh my god. You'll understand why.
This is our home and this is the way it's gonna stay. Mulder! A brand new X-Files Friday.
So The X-Files, if you haven't watched it. Can you tell us about what happened? Oh, absolutely. So The X-Files was one of the first shows that had individual bottle episodes, but then it had this overall arc throughout the entire thing. It was one of the first shows to do that.
So Home was from season four, episode two, and it's known as being the scariest X-Files episodes of all time. And so it shocked the executives. Kind of blew their mind. And it's basically about a family of inbred Americans who go out on big killing sprees. It was just a very intense show.
I found a piece that was written about it at the time. Here's a fun Halloween trick. Mention the Peacock family to an unsuspecting X-Files fan and enjoy the reaction. It's likely to be some combination of a shudder, a squeal and a groan. A mix of delight and revulsion.
The Peacocks are at the center of Home, an X-Files episode that originally aired in 96.
. Viewers complained about the tale about the murderous inbred clan that it was too disturbing, and network executives apparently agreed. When Home appeared later on the cable channel FX, it was never again broadcast on Fox, save for one special Halloween airing in 1999.. The episode has since become a fixture on various scariest shows ever, lists and endures as one of the most beloved in the series' history. It's available on Netflix and Hulu.
If you haven't seen it, just know, it's very, very disturbing.
Whoa! And is it in today's world, now that we've seen so much, fuck everything?
I re-watched it recently and it's still really really dark. I'm not going to go into the reasons why, but it does certain things in the storytelling that just hit really hard and it's just incredibly bleak and really really sad. They basically keep their inbred mother under the bed and they use her to breed with, and the series opens with their mother giving birth to a baby that is then buried under a kid's baseball field, and the episode opens with the kid scuffing the dirt off the base that he's on for him to bat. I've never played baseball, I don't know if I'm using the right words here, but and as he scuffs, he scuffs into the baby's head that's being buried under. it's unbelievably big, and this was on Fox.
this was on network tv we're not talking HBO and so Fox Mulder and Dana Scully go to investigate what's going on with this peacock family. It's cut in a way that's really disturbing. the music's really disturbing. I found another bit of essay that I thought captured the Americana of it all as well. Aside from the scares, home functions as a sort of dark mirror onto vintage Americana imagining a sinister underbelly, so insular to small towns, motherhood and family, classic Cadillacs and even Johnny Mathis.
Oh, I don't know who that is, but I'm gonna embarrass myself here. Wow, that does sound intense. It's a really intense, scary episode of tv, and I think it's on Disney plus now, because all the Fox shows went on there. so it sits.
alongside your favorite Disney films. Wait for Calvin to accidentally put that one on. Oh my god.
the X-Files is also a really fun re-watch, because Vince Gilligan was one of the writers on X-Files. he went out to make Breaking Bad, all these amazing actors appear in X-Files that appear in other places later. some of these big actors. they had their like big break on X-Files. Yeah, because.
wasn't Bryan Cranston on an episode? He was on an episode. yeah, he was on there. That's how he.
met. Who else was on there? yeah, Luke Wilson pops up, Danny Trejo, Jack Black, Seth Green, Shia LaBeouf, Ryan Reynolds. Wow, all these people just pop up as little bit characters on X-Files. So yeah, if you've never watched the X-Files, there's so many good episodes, but Home is the one I would recommend.
season four, episode two. Love it. All right, Rob. All right, I picked.
an episode of Barry as my first one. so season two, episode five Ronnie Lilly. Okay. So, in this episode the FBI is coming after Barry and the agent catches him and he tells him he'll let him go if he kills his ex-wife's boyfriend. Oh okay.
So I remember this episode. He's like sure, I'll go kill this guy, and he goes to his house and tries to convince him just to leave. he's like go to Chicago, pack your bags. just go for like a year, it'll be fine. and the guy starts packing up.
I'll play the clip. Oh my god. Don't freak out. Don't freak out. Your name's Ronnie Proxen, right?
Uh-huh. And you're dating Diana Loach's ex-wife?
Uh-huh. Okay, well, go, Diana. Do you have family out of state?
Uh-huh. Do you mind me asking where? Chicago. Chicago. I love Chicago.
Whose taekwondo trophies are these?
Stop. Right on. Good for you, man. Whoa, look at that, you got medals too. Shit.
Chicago from LA. That can be pretty long. Sometimes I do Google Maps and Waze at the same time. It's kind of a little fun game to see which ones work. So there's just this insane fight scene.
He's trying to be polite and doesn't want to kill him and then thinks he does. His daughter comes home and she looks just like Lincoln. Oh god. She's like nine in a karate outfit. Oh my god.
And she's all weirdly supernatural crouching tiger, hidden dragon fight scenes, which reminded me a lot of Let the Right One In, which is a movie I really like. The Swedish horror movie. So kind of those vibes. It's that ultimate.
thing in Barry, where it's grounded in reality in a lot of it. but then it just takes on these utterly surreal tones and you just go with it because they've set the style so well. you just are drawn into that world and whatever happens, you're on board. God, you would love that show.
Monica. I need to watch it. It's really beautiful. This is an interesting part of this game. The ones I pick well, not all of them are my favorite shows.
But the episode left out. Exactly. Yeah, it's mine too.
I realized that a lot of the ones I picked were kind of standalone episodes that didn't deal a.
lot with the series. Yeah, you could almost watch it without watching the show and still get something.
out of it. Which I think I just watch so much TV that I lose the context. so the ones that are sticking with me are ones that don't need it. Sure. Yeah, that's a really good point actually.
The other scary thing when I was thinking about these episodes was it's amazing how much I watch.
and forget. Yeah, I know. That was all because I was like oh, it's definitely this episode, but I don't remember anything about it, but I know it's great. Then I'm like watching the episode and.
I'm like oh, what was the show about again? How did it end? Did I finish it? And that's really.
worrying. I agree. I agree. Yeah, I should say right now I did not pick a Friends episode. Okay, shocking.
I'm shook. I know me too. I mean I can say right now the ones. Okay, you could probably do a top 10 Friends episodes. I know that was too overwhelming.
The one where Russ.
and Rachel broke up. Smelly Cat. What are the other ones? The one where no one's ready would.
be my pick from Friends, but I'm not. Okay, no Friends. I'm not doing it. Okay, what have we got then? So next I have.
This is an American show. This is an American show technically.
Actually, technically, it's not an American show. Oh my god, this is Simon. This is a podcast about America. No, it is. Okay, hit us.
Okay. this is the American office dinner party. Great pick.
Great pick. I'm gonna play. Put a toast. Down light. Hold on.
Here's to good friends.
Cheers. Cheers. I haven't seen this.
Sort of an oaky afterbirth.
What was that? So music. That sounds good. Do you guys remember my old assistant Hunter? He's an excellent songwriter.
Wait till you hear this.
Okay, here we go. Oh god. You took me by the hand, made me a friend. That one night you made everything all right.
Okay, so embarrassingly, I've done all the British office, haven't done the American one, which I know is amazing. What is this episode about and what jumps out? Okay, the reason I picked it is because
what the American office does. so, I mean it's so brilliant, it's so funny, but the visceral awkwardness that it hits on, it, just like moves your whole soul. Yeah. And this episode, the whole episode, I mean it's hard to pick a clip from it because the whole thing is just so good, but it.
encapsulates the awkwardness so well. Oh, I could just sense it, the looks everyone's giving each other, just the social anxiety involved of everyone. Yes. I need to watch the American office. It's kind of amazing that you know Ricky Gervais starts a show and then it's licensed to all these different countries.
So many countries have their own office. The American office, I think, has become more popular and more loved than the British office, which is kind of amazing. Well, it also went for so.
long. A runner-up for the office would be in season two, The Dundies. We've referenced the show in other.
Flightless Birds, right? We had like the parkour episode and Loma Linda. It feels like there's an office clip for every occasion imaginable. Have you done American office, Rob? Yeah.
Yeah, The Dundies.
is the first episode of second season and it's also incredible. It's just so special, but the.
dinner party is season four, episode 13.
. Okay, all right, 413.. Great pick and a reminder that I need to watch the American office, especially if I'm going to become more American. Also directed by Paul Feig, that episode. So my number two pick is from a much more recent show that I really loved.
I think we all love the show as well, and it is the season two finale of Dave, which is just such a, oh my god, you're going to love this when you watch it. Dave is such a special thing. It does the thing that Barry does where it is grounded in reality. For a lot of the time it's about a white rapper called Dave, who is a real rapper in real life, but this is kind of a fictionalized version of his story. And it's grounded in reality, but then it will just take these absolutely fantastical turns.
Brad Pitt is in one of my other favorite episodes, where they're kidnapped by a rabid fan, and it's just so transcendent. It's really special. But what I really like about the finale of season two is basically Dave and his best friend Gator. There've been some tension between the two of them. They're getting ready for a big awards performance.
Dave has been rehearsing this giant, very artistic show that he's going to put on, on his own and sort of ignoring Gator, who's open for him this whole time. And then there's this really beautiful moment where you're surprised because you suddenly realize that Dave isn't going to do his own performance. He's brought Gator onto stage with him, and it's just the two of them doing their most basic thing, which is them both rapping on stage at the same time. I think I cried when this first aired.
Yeah, because it's like a big deal. He's doing this big show with dances and effects, and.
then he just scraps it. He scraps the whole, and the whole episode is the prep for it all. Doesn't it end, because his rap name is Little Dickie and the whole joke, he's got unusual deformed penis. And part of the show is him getting live on stage, getting surgery to correct. So, as a viewer, you're invested in watching the surgery because you're like, this is going to be amazing.
They're going to do this live broadcast of him getting surgery. And a big part of the episode is the doctor figuring out what they can do on stage and what's going to be safe and what's not safe. So, as an audience member, you're invested in that. You want to see the big performance. Then you go, oh, fuck, that's not going to happen.
It's just going to be him reuniting with his best friend. Oh, my God, I'm just going to pay that back.
You guys talk to Gator? Like, how is he? Talk to Gator. He's fine. Just worry about you, Dave.
Okay.
I know that I'm so bad at showing my appreciation in general, but like, probably especially, the both of you. And I just want you to know that you guys have made my dreams come true. I'm so thankful for everything that you do for me and just everything that you guys are as people. You're fucking amazing. Just keep paying me to be your friend and I'll be there.
Love you, man. Thank you for always being there. I love you too.
Be careful, Dave. I got it.
What? Are you tearing? I'm fine.
Hey, everybody, my name is Lil Nas X, you know it, yeah.
And I have the biggest song ever. Who's ready to have some fun tonight?
Anyways, this next performer's name, auto-correct, it's L-O-L Dinky.
Give it up for Lil Dinky.
They tried to tell me I was gonna crack. I've been broke but had no bags.
Oh, it's so beautiful. And it's such a great trick on the audience watching at home as well as the audience in this fictional world. And it's just, I cried when I watched it the first time.
It's really beautiful. Oh, I love that. I'm gonna, I haven't watched it. Gotta watch it.
You will love Dave when you get around to it. It's so good. I'm gonna do The Office,
you're gonna do Dave. Okay, great. Oh, all right. What we got? Cable?
Cable coming in.
All right, I have another standalone episode. It's Atlanta, the Teddy Perkins episode. Is this where he plays a white man? Yeah, so this is where Darius is going to pick up a piano from someone in the South and he gets to this house and there's this creepy, looks like a masked white man, like Michael Jackson type character that lives there. And it's really chaotic and creepy.
I feel Atlanta's, I embarrassingly also haven't watched Atlanta, despite knowing that it's one.
of the best scenes ever made. I also haven't finished it. I know. There's too many shows.
And some of these big shows, you want to wait till you're in the right mood. You've got to have time to really sink into it, I think. My question about Atlanta for someone that hasn't watched it, what's the balance of drama and comedy? or is it all over the place? It's kind of all over the place.
I mean, it's kind of like Dave, where they go and do the whole GATA bipolar thing. They do that in Atlanta as well, really well. Yeah. Finding that balance where it's not just silly and funny.
Man, I remember seeing Donald Glover. I've only been to Coachella once, it was for the Tupac Hologram. And Donald Glover was there performing a very early version of Childish Gambino. And it was more, they were great songs, but they were more joke songs. So you're meant to listen to the lyrics and go, ha ha, that's funny.
I guess a bit like what Dave does, little Dicky, but seeing what he has done, what Donald Glover has turned into, it's like. Oh, it's unreal.
He was a UCB improviser. That's right. I would see him on stage doing improv with his team.
Was there like a sense that he had an X factor, or was he all these amazing creative people?
Everyone's so special there and doing amazing things. If I'm being quite honest, no, I didn't feel like there's something extra. And to have just seen him on that little fucking Franklin stage and now what he has become, it's unreal. It's unreal.
Even in the community, you don't really get the sense of how grand he's going to become.
Yeah.
So here's the scene. Would you like a glass of water? Yeah, kind of parts.
Darius would like a glass of water when you have a moment.
Yeah, righteous brother.
Oh, you're the butler or whatever. They didn't bring the water yet. Oh, I don't have a butler.
I just use this to remember things.
Wow.
Wash your hands immediately. Darius would like a glass of water when you have a moment.
Right, then.
Excuse me.
Oh, it's so unsettling.
It is. It's making me feel itchy.
It's so creepy. I remember having a hangover from this episode. Now that I watched it in silence and then just sitting there like a few minutes after. And in the credits at the end, that character is Teddy Perkins, and it just says Teddy Perkins is himself. But you can tell it's him.
Could I? Could I? It's him?
It's him. Yeah, you can kind of see it in the eyes.
No. Wait, now I need to see. Hold on.
Ew. Oh, God.
Oh, yeah. I just use this to remember things.
Finish that hat for Dionne Warwick.
There's a whole section. I cut out of him eating a soft-boiled quail egg, too, that he's just sitting there, breaking it open and sticking his hand into.
Oh, my God.
Like a fully realized character to step into. Could someone watch this, having watched none of the show, and love it? Yeah, absolutely. Okay, great.
And spoiler alert, so the end of this episode ends in a murder-suicide. Oh, my God.
God, it gets dark. So you're just absolutely shocking.
Yeah, it's so dark and weird, and you're like, what is happening? And it's totally out of place for the rest of the season. It's just fully standalone. Here's Darius, just out on his own getting a piano.
It's kind of amazing what's happened in the last 15 years, in that TV has become more classier than film. You know, there used to be films that stick with you, and now it's these episodes.
It's so avant-garde.
A big-name actor. now, they get more respect if they're cast in a big TV show than they are in a film. That's such an interesting flip. It's changed the game. We're so lucky, and we can just watch all this shit at home.
We're pretty lucky with this stuff.
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Okay, Atlanta, another thing to be added to my list.
I know. This is stressing me out. Now there's just all these things to watch. I specifically wanted to include comedy.
So I had the same worry. Because the stuff that sticks with you is darker, right? It is, yeah. You can't just have an episode of just horrific, sad, unrequited love episodes.
And because I really do firmly believe that perfect comedy is much harder to do than perfect drama.
Totally. When it doesn't land, it really doesn't land, right?
It's math. Comedy is math in a way that drama isn't. Drama's emotions and you can play music that makes you feel a thing. And you can't get away with anything.
I hadn't thought about it like that. That's so true. Yeah, it's either on or it's off.
Exactly.
And there's no worse feeling than when you're watching something like an SNL sketch that isn't landing. And you're like, oh yeah, oh no.
Yeah. So when it works, or when it's incredible, I bump that above for, like Dinner Party or Dundies.
I feel like that's why things like The Office is so good. Because there's so much of it. And consistently, it's just on point, with timing and awkwardness, and everything.
Exactly. Okay, so my last one is from Grey's Anatomy.
Oh wow, Grey's. A show I haven't watched, but I feel like everyone I know watches.
Season two of Grey's Anatomy is peak. So many episodes in that season. I had a hard time picking.
Okay.
And this is an example of a show that would not be on my list of favorite shows. But these episodes are-.
They're golden.
Golden.
And just for someone, I haven't watched Grey's, this is kind of like ER. It's a hospital drama, but a bit more relationship-based, maybe?
That's right. I mean, ER ended up-.
It got pretty soapy as well.
It did. Yeah. But yes, it's all about the relationships and McDreamy and McSteamy and Meredith. Oh, it's so juicy.
Okay, and I know there's a lot of it. Have you watched most of it, or do you tap in and out?
I fell off over time.
Still running.
That's incredible.
Is it or did it finally end?
I think it's still running. I think Ellen maybe left, but they shoot it at the studio next to my house.
Oh, wow.
What's the magic of it? It's the characters, or does each episode have a medical drama, like an ER or a house?
Each episode has its own, yes, medical drama. I mean, they get away with the craziest shit. As the episode I picked is not. The premise is so ridiculous. You're so invested.
They do an amazing job with character development. You love all of these people and their journey. And they're like rough and tumble residents. You want them to succeed. And then they're all having relationships with these hot, hot-.
Great, hot dogs.
Dogs that are above them. It's problematic, but whatever. Patrick Dempsey's so hot in this show. It's unbelievable. Okay, so this episode I picked is called...
Wait, I want to make sure I get it right.
I've seen our babysitter will sometimes watch Grey's Anatomy and just coming in out of contact to all of the insane things that are happening.
I feel like it's the kind of show where suddenly one week there'll be a bomb threat to the hospital or something and the whole thing gets shut down. No power. They've got to save. Yeah. I mean, there is a magic thing.
Finding a TV show that can last for that many seasons and still have an audience, it's pretty rare.
If you're going to watch a season, watch season two.
Season two is the one? Yes. All right.
So this episode, it was a two-parter. Oh, okay. So the first part, which is the clip I'll play, is called It's the End of the World.
Oh, it's a very dramatic title.
Yeah. What's leading up to this clip is a man has a bomb in his body.
I think I've seen this one being watched.
Yeah, he has a bomb in his body and-.
Just expand on that. You can't just say in his body.
Okay, well, it is in his body cavity.
He's sullen it in. He shoved it up her orifice.
I don't, I have to be honest, I don't remember.
It's in him. It's in him.
And there's a paramedic whose hand is on it, basically. Like she, and it's so-.
Wait, it's on it. So the paramedic is inside the man as well.
Yes. I love this. Not inside, it's on his, I don't know how to explain it.
An incision or-.
Yeah, there's like a body, it's in his body and her hand is keeping it from detonating, basically.
It's like speed, but with a body instead of a mask.
Yeah, basically.
This is incredible. I'm sold, I want to watch all of this.
She's young, paramedic, and it's Christina Ricci.
Having the worst day of her life. Amazing.
It's Christina Ricci. Yeah, so then this happens.
I've never been more on a cliffhead-.
It's so good.
Than what you've just described.
Okay, we ready?
Hannah, where's the anesthesiologist? He, um, he left.
I'm sorry, this is the best you'll ever make me do.
Hannah, I think I'm going to take my hand out now.
When the hell are people going to learn?
Oh yeah, Kyle Chandler's in this episode.
I love Kyle Chandler. I love him. What? Is the man alive when the bomb is in?
I don't know if he's alive.
Okay.
Yeah, I think he's alive. No, he is, he is.
So she's about to kill both of them.
Yes, the whole, it's going to detonate the whole- Hospital? The whole hospital. No, not the whole hospital, not the whole hospital, but like, yeah.
She hasn't evacuated?
Him and people close by. Oh, my god. Okay.
Or maybe our hand is simply in there with the ammo. We can't know. You know, my guys talked to the friend, that device is homemade, which means it's unstable and very-.
It's better than this. No!
No way, I'm knowing.
Add to that the fact that you've got a surgeon in the OR next door refusing to leave in a nervous paramedic's hand inside the body cavity. It's definitely as bad as it seems. This whole song feels like a joke. Hey, somebody help!
Help here!
So, gotcha. I think I'm just going to take it out. You need to get over to the finish line.
You can do this.
No, no, no, I just want to take it out of me, don't-? Hannah, it won't be much longer. Remember, you're keeping him from bleeding out. No, I am 22 years old.
I should not even be in here.
This is some kind of a-. She's panicking. We need to clear the room. I'm not leaving. Great, let's move.
I'm not leaving her. We need to get everyone out now, Dr. Burke. She's my intern. I am responsible for her.
No, it's got to come out. It has to come out.
It's Yang.
Go with Donna. No. Hannah, look at me. No, it's got to come out. I know, I know.
Hannah, look at me.
You can do this.
Oh, my God.
No.
Hannah, you can do this. No, it has to come out. No, you keep it there just a little while longer. Hannah. I have to.
You really- I have to stop bleeding out.
I don't hate you, Doc.
Just stay right where you are.
Okay, that's it. So she puts her hand in.
Oh, my God.
So the second part is now her with the hand in.
What an amazing cliffhanger. Yes. You've still got the same problem.
And you had to wait a week. And now it's the same problem, but with the person you care about.
When you were describing what the episode was about, I was imagining it, but I was like, it can't be the case. And then everything was 10 times even more dramatic than as you stated it.
It is so dramatic.
That's an incredible episode of TV.
It really was.
Kyle Chandler being there, lending his gravitas. I know. He's one of my favorites. She's amazing.
You also forget that's Sandra, Oh.
Oh, yeah.
You know? Like she's, yeah. Yeah. What an episode of TV.
Oh, no. I mean, and when you were picking, I feel like that one was up top in your mind, right? That looks amazing, that show.
Well, this, and then it was between that. and what if people who definitely have watched the show, which most people have the prom episode where Denny dies. Also, Meredith is asking Derek to choose her and pick her and love her. And then they have sex. And it's the.
it is my favorite sex scene of all time. Wow.
Okay, cool.
So that was, I almost wanted that.
Monica.
Have you noticed? a lot of our picks have been from the second season of shows? All three of mine are from the second season.
That's a really good observation. I guess that's when you've found your stride. And you haven't fucked it up yet.
And you can kind of make some bigger swings.
Yeah. And yours, but you're still play. It's still playful. You haven't run out of ideas.
Something really fun to do with a show that you loved, especially from a few years back, is to watch the very first pilot episode because they are rough. That can often be a show finding itself. And it's almost a different show. Totally. It's all off.
They don't know whether they can get a season sometimes.
Pilots are so hard to make.
Yeah. I can only imagine. My God. That's a fun thing to do.
Can I guess your last one?
Okay. So yes.
Oh, my God. David's gonna cry.
Is this the one you cried during?
Yeah, this is. I have never watched this scene and not cried. No, seriously, I've done it three times. now. I'm going to read a quote first.
This is from the main actors in that scene. I cry when I hear the song. It's Pavlovian. If it comes on, when I'm at yoga or something, I'll cry. I'm always worried.
people will notice me and be like, that's the girl from the show.
I don't know, it's kind of spoiled it from the OC.
No, no, no.
What do you think? What do you think it is? I thought it was going to be the leftovers finale.
No, that is my bonus episode to get me to 3.
3.
That was my bonus episode as well.
Really?
Yeah.
So Rob and I both like.
You have a crossover.
We do. We do have a crossover. There's a show called The Leftovers, which I would say is my favorite show ever made.
I think it's one of mine too. And it's the best finale I've ever seen.
We and Rob agree on a lot of things. We disagree on a shit ton of stuff. Musical tastes, very different. TV, more crossover.
Yeah, I like women singing. Yeah, thank you.
It's mad that we both picked the show. It's an HBO show. I know, I... It's incredibly obscure.
It's a slow burn. You have to get through like eight episodes.
Okay, so you.
. Yeah.
Did you watch the whole thing, though? No. You have to get through like the first season.
In order for me to love something, the getting through a whole season of a show, it's just, it's never going to be.
This is an interesting thing. So many people agree with you, and people that I love are all like, what do you see in the show? It's inconsistent. It's a mishmash. Some episodes are not good.
Yeah, that weird assassin episode.
Which I kind of love.
It's fun.
But the thing that I do find interesting about The Leftovers is that you're right, generally a show shouldn't make you have to work to like it. But I think I liken it to music. There's some albums or songs where you don't like it the first time. And if you push yourself to listen to the whole thing, they can end up slipping under your skin and just being your most favorite thing of all time. That's true.
And I think there's certain TV that does that. If you work at it, it will reward you long-term.
I get that. I get that.
And I think that's The Leftovers. And I think the premise of The Leftovers is that a very small amount of the world's population just suddenly disappears in a second. So it's like a rapture.
Right.
And it's basically like, what does society do when this random event that no one can explain happens? And it just looks at what humans do. I know.
It just felt, to me, felt a bit indulgent. It felt like it was trying hard to be poignant. All these things. And I was like, oof.
All I'll say is, the whole show is about these really big topics. The last episode is just two characters. They're coming together. The whole thing is just a conversation. And it just emotionally, I got goosebumps.
now, just thinking about it. I cried in that final episode. I love the ending of The Leftovers. Yeah.
I love the ending of it too.
Perfect. But that's not your pick, though.
No. So my favorite episode of TV of all time is the finale of a show called Six Feet Under.
And have you watched Six Feet Under?
I have not. I mean, I've watched a few episodes. I loved it. It wasn't that I just didn't, but there was so much of it that I think I dropped off.
Have you watched, Rob?
Yeah. I've seen it. I love that show.
Alan Ball. Okay.
Alan Ball. So it ran from 2001 to 2005.. It was one of HBO's first prestige TV shows.
Yeah.
It was about a family that worked at a funeral home. The beginning of each episode, which was a really fun technique, it would start with a person randomly dying. So every opening would be a cold open. They die and then you're in the funeral home. And it's just about a family getting through stuff.
I always like seeing what people are saying on YouTube about things. And because I was looking through so many clips, I took notice. It's the best ending in TV history because, unlike other shows or movies, it gives you closure. In so many other shows, we only see the cast riding off into the sunset, wondering what will happen to them. Six Feet Under wasn't scared to show people what will happen to everyone.
And this is a huge spoiler. I would say...
No, I'm kind of like, because I want to watch it.
Fuck. But it's been a long time. It's been a long time. It's not going to ruin it. I think it'll just make you want to watch it.
But essentially what it does is, Claire, who's the youngest person in the family, she leaves to go to college, drives off in her car. And as she drives... No, no, she's not going to... Is she going to die? No, she doesn't die.
But as she drives off, you see how all the main characters that you've come to know and love, how they pass away.
And Sia is singing during it. And it's... So I'm going to play. I'm just kind of curious. I have children.
I don't even know. I don't even know this show.
But something I genuinely want to know is if this does affect you in any way, having no, no grand investment. Connection. And, Rob, you have... I'm curious if this will trigger you.
It's been a long time since I've watched it.
Another comment under this clip on YouTube, watch the entire show in about four weeks. Never cried this hard in my entire life.
I'm prioritizing Six Feet Under.
I have done it again.
I have been here many times before.
Hurt myself again today.
And the worst part is there's no one else to blame. Be my friend.
Hold me, wrap me up.
Unfold me, I am small.
And needy, warm me up.
And breathe me.
Ouch, I have lost myself again.
Lost myself and I am nowhere to be found yet. I think that I might break.
Lost myself again and I feel unsafe. Be my friend.
Hold me, wrap me up.
Unfold me, I am small.
And needy, warm me up. And breathe me, be my friend.
Hold me, wrap me up.
Unfold me, I am small.
And breathe me.
No tears, which is, I'm really relieved about. I was bawling my eyes out yesterday. I think that got it out of my system. I got a lot of goosebumps.
Yeah, my eyes are wet.
Yeah, the whole show is so emotionally powerful. And then to see how every character ends, it's just too much. Because then you're like, oh my God, we're all going to, feels like a My Death thing. You see how everyone's going to die. And it's also so bold, because it just is the ultimate.
It's almost giving the finger to every other ending. It's so much closure. It's like, you want closure? You're going to see exactly how all these people die.
Yeah, death is so sad.
And I guess, essentially, it's a show about death. That's the whole thing.
And so, of course, they had to end it like that. That's beautiful. I really, really want to watch that show now.
Yeah, it's really beautiful. And four seasons, so it's kind of doable.
I'm sad.
Sorry to end on such a sad one for my list.
Did you have that moment leaving Georgia when you moved? Saying goodbye to your parents when you moved?
Do you remember what my moment was?
I don't remember it. So either I blocked it or I probably didn't let myself really feel those emotions.
I remember being very sad in my first couple of months out of home at the university hostel. I just remember feeling so panicked and lost. But I don't remember the actual leaving. I can't remember if my parents dropped me off in another city or if I... I didn't have a car, so I didn't drive away.
Or I took the bus or something.
I think that's one of the last times I cried. I think it's one of the only times Natalie's seen me cry was...
Wow. When you moved here.
We had a U-Haul truck that we packed up. And I remember hugging my parents and then getting in and just driving from our... It was our childhood home.
Yeah, and so you literally had that Rear Vision Mur thing of it fading out in the background.
That's the last time you cried? Oh my god, Rob.
Well, I think I have it like a funeral.
Oh, sure. Okay.
Okay. Do you... Yeah. I mean, I cried yesterday at that show. I don't cry at things that are real, generally.
I just cry at TV shows mostly.
I cry at things that are real, but it normally takes me a bit. It will end up coming out out of nowhere.
Yeah, it's gonna explode like a day later.
Yes, but not when it probably should be happening.
Emotions are so annoying. You're like, just trigger now, so this person knows what I feel like.
I know. I know.
Yeah, Six Feet Under is a great show.
Oh, that was great. I'm excited for that. Okay, Rob has one left.
My last one's a little sillier.
No, Silly's good. Silly's really good.
We need to end on Silly, not Death.
I'll just be crying the whole time.
Another season two. I picked an episode of Documentary Now. Oh, that's fun.
Great pick. And I'm also excited because I've only seen one episode of this and keep meaning to do more.
It's called Juan Likes Rice and Chicken.
Oh, it's after Hero Dreams of Sushi.
And I didn't realize Bill Hader and Seth Meyers wrote this. So Bill's featured twice.
Okay.
Oh yeah, in your picks.
So, for someone that hasn't watched this particular show before, what's the premise?
It's parodies on other documentaries, done in really silly, weird ways.
Hero Dreams of Sushi is such a good documentary.
It's really beautiful.
Have you seen this?
I don't think so.
Spoof on it? So there's a restaurant in Colombia, Three Michelin Stars, and they're doing a documentary on it.
Look, you know, I've been to Noma and I've been to El Bulli and I've been to all of Roshan's places, but there's no restaurant like this anywhere in the world.
I write guidebooks about South American restaurants and every year I travel the continent looking for something new. Yet I always find myself back at Juan's Rice and Chicken. It's shocking how simple it all is. There is a consistent, simple set menu. To start, a cup of warm coffee followed by a banana split perfectly in half.
Then rice with a little bit of butter. In our most days, chicken.
Most impressively, it's the only three-star Michelin restaurant I know of. that's a 40-minute walk from the nearest road.
It's amazing.
They go in, I have one more clip, it's in Spanish, but they go into all the obscure things. It's really just leaning into these restaurants, which I like these restaurants, and when they do that, but I like that, it's poking fun of that.
Yes, you can see that these things can get out of hand.
Where the coffee has to be buried for an hour before they brew it. He's beating the rice against a tree. The old man has to chase the chicken and catch it. And if he doesn't, chicken's not on the menu.
There's no chicken, that's why chicken sometimes.
And then they massage it for an hour and then shoot it against the wall with a cannon.
Oh, this is funny.
And here's the banana preparation.
And there's the format of the food show, so well.
It does.
Examine it. And it's perfect, there it is.
And once it's peeled, you only have one chance to cut it perfectly in half.
And what happens?
Juan pulls out the bananas if it's not perfect.
I remember, this is the first time I brought him the bag with bananas and the whole bag. He threw it out. This is a terrific way to peel a banana. The second time, one or two bananas were fine to peel.
Well, I started to cry.
Shot so beautifully.
I cried so hard that the rest of the day was free. Juan gave it to me because the customers were complaining.
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