2023-12-11 01:19:03
After 25 years at the Late Night desk, Conan realized that the only people at his holiday party are the men and women who work for him. Over the years and despite thousands of interviews, Conan has never made a real and lasting friendship with any of his celebrity guests. So, he started a podcast to do just that. Deeper, unboundedly playful, and free from FCC regulations, Conan O’Brien Needs a Friend is a weekly opportunity for Conan to hang out with the people he enjoys most and perhaps find some real friendship along the way.
Fall is here, hear the yell, back to school, ring the bell, brand new shoes, walking blues, climb the fence, books and pens. I can tell that we are going to be friends.
I can tell that we are going to be friends.
Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Mr. Conan O'Brien.
Thank you.
Oh my God, hey, how are you? New York, Brooklyn, Manhattan, the Bronx. all the boroughs are here. How are you? how you doing?
This is the New York Comedy Festival, we are thrilled to be part of it. Very cool to have you here. thanks for being here. Did you buy that shirt or make that shirt?
Want to come up here and show everyone what you're wearing? Let this woman a hand. What is your name? I'm Crystal. Okay, Crystal, look at this shirt.
Do you know what it's like for me to come out here? And performing is all about confidence, you know? And you come out here? And the first thing I see is this lovely, lovely woman, but her shirt is me. At a very confusing, difficult time in my life. Look at that bowl haircut my mom had a Sears and Roebuck haircutting kit.
There were six of us, she would line us up and she would go by and she would cut straight across. Every time you bend over, it looks like I'm being crushed. Hi.
There's empty seats right up front. Who are these people? One is your friend that couldn't make it, who wants to move down up front. This is fucking bullshit.
Last row, last row.
Come on, let's go, two of you, both of you, come on.
Let's go.
Bullshit, bullshit. Okay, you there, come on down.
You guys there and there, your friend didn't come. This sold out instantly, this show, people really wanted to be here. What happened?
She broke two of her toes, I thought, you said, she broke two of her nose, she broke two of her toes. You can still sit in a seat.
Anyone else? We need someone else down here, we got to fill these seats right here, these are seats up front. I'm a very attractive man.
You come on up here, this guy. Is that a star Star Wars shirt?
Okay, forget it. No, I'm kidding, I'm kidding.
I'm kidding.
God damn it, this show sold out so fast and then this person didn't come because she broke my toe.
You don't even know what are you doing right now. Are you calling her? call her? what's her name?
This is unbelievable. What is her name? Veronica? Oh man, she's on my shit list now.
You're calling her right now, if she's in a club right now, I'm going to lose it. If she's seeing another comedian, this is it. There's no show tonight, put her on speaker.
You're on stage right now.
Veronica, Are you there? Hello? Can you hear me? Yes, I'm here, okay.
Veronica, I walk out here.
To this Brooklyn Academy of Music, which is a sold out show that sold out in seconds. And what do I see right away? An empty seat up front and your friend who's wearing, by the way, a very disturbing shirt of me when I was an 11-year-old girl.
And what happened to you? Tell us all.
Oh my god.
Tell us what happened. I basically broke my.
Two toes. And then I had some complications and I literally just got released from the hospital today.
This is taking a turn.
This is taking a turn. I did not foresee. I was like, why can't she be here? So I've broken a toe, I always break my toes.
I break a toe every day and now it turns out you had complications and you were just released from the hospital today.
I'm so sorry.
Look, I can't talk much longer, I've got a show to do.
And you're clearly high on some pain meds, Veronica. Did they give you pills? Did they give you pain pills?
Veronica wake up.
Wake up, Veronica, I'm trying. I'm trying. Okay, okay, Veronica, I'm going to let you go now. I hope you get better soon, all right?
Okay, yeah, and I hope that this isn't a hallucination.
Bye, Veronica.
That was absolutely fantastic. I love that. I wanted to quickly mention you are an amazing crowd. We did a show last night. I love that crowd.
You are much better than them already, and I'll tell you something else. So much so that now I hate last night's crowd, but we did have people coming from all over. It was insane.
We had someone who flew from Tokyo to be here, yes, and then we had another couple that flew from England to see this show. That felt like a lot of pressure. And I asked them afterwards, What do you think? and they said, Not worth it.
Then I talked to a couple that lives like three blocks from here, they said, Not worth it.
I'm kidding. Everyone seemed to have a good time, but we're going to have a blast tonight. I think you're going to have a good time. Thank you so much for being here.
You know, I don't do this podcast alone, this podcast has been a great gift for me. We started doing it five years ago and it's one of the most enjoyable things I think I've done in my entire career. I absolutely love it and I do it not alone, as much as I'd like to do it alone.
I've tried to fire them, but I guess there's a contract. No, I love these two, let's get them out here right now. Sornum Obsession, Matt Gourley.
Again, four seats right here.
What's happening, What's happening?
You two guys that are hugging each other, come forward, come forward, stop hugging each other and come forward, what are you doing? We have four seats right here.
This is bullshit. You two guys are hugging each other, You're still sitting practically up front. What's your problem? You're so close to the front.
What's that? Okay, two of you come forward, Jesus Christ. Look at the shit I have to do at this stage in my career.
We took care of some major shit before you came out, yeah, man.
We heard you berating a sick girl backstage.
Is she really sick? Let's think about it. I mean, she broke some toes and then I guess there were complications. We don't know what that is.
I mean, it could be an infection.
Thanks Sona, you're really helping. But she sounds much better now, high as a kite.
Okay.
Sounds nice.
I don't know about you, but I told the crowd last night. I used to live in Williamsburg in another lifetime long time ago, like during the Civil war.
That was a million years ago and I don't get back to Brooklyn that much. And so I have been walking everywhere around here, talking to people. I love it, I love the vibe here.
It's making me think, why didn't I come back to Brooklyn earlier? because I love it so much. Great vibe.
People are so good looking, everyone's, I mean, the ladies, the fellas, all of them. everyone's really good looking, they're all very well dressed. Everyone's got a cup of coffee that costs like $900..
And their kids have weird names that are just made up. I have to say it's been great. Have you guys been enjoying Brooklyn? Have you been, like, checking it out well?
I'm not going anywhere.
Yeah.
I don't know what it is. I've been in my hotel room and then I came here, and then I went back to my hotel room, and then I came back here.
Wait, you've stayed in your hotel room the whole time you've been here.
The whole day, the whole day.
Why, I don't know.
I get to my room and I'm just like, there's a bed and then there's a TV. So I watched like I watched the office, I watched friends.
These are all reruns, they're all shows that are like 50 years old.
I watched, and I watched Deadpool 2 on like basic cable.
Is this because Sona and I are both from Southern California and.
Oh.
One Woo Sona, you came to New York with me the first time. I'll never forget this. You've been working with me for just a couple of months and we came to New York together. And you flipped out and you said, I hate it here. And then I said, Why don't you just get in a cab and go back to your hotel room?
And you said, Get in a cab, I'm not going to sit in a seat that other people have sat on. That's what she said. That's a quote, Why are you telling?...?
What the fuck are you talking about? why are you telling a New York crowd that I'm scared of their sitting?
Why are you doing that? But what would scare you about a seat that someone else sat on? That's just, I mean, come on.
They didn't just sit on it, they like, jizzed on it, Oh.
You and I have different concerns about New York, yes.
There's jizz everywhere.
No, there is not.
What are you walking around with a blue light? What are you doing? yes.
Everyone's bleeding everywhere.
They're all like spitting, okay?
I'd like to distance myself from this opinion. I don't have this problem with New York.
Right, and I don't know what you think people are doing in cabs, but and I think, yes, has that happened? Yeah, they're fucking no, they're not.
Yeah, no, they're not.
No, there's.
No, that's not happening a lot. Okay, certainly, I never did it. I used to get on that horse that takes you around the park.
That's where you do.
I do the deed there, the clip-clop of horses. It's very erotic to me, even right now I'm getting aroused, Oh.
Come on, you can do it, I don't wanna get up here.
Would you do that carriage ride?
With someone else or were you by yourself?
I was by myself.
Okay, that makes sense.
And I'd be like, come on, you can do it, not gonna. that's what my penis says to me, not gonna, oh yeah.
People are clapping.
Not gonna.
Don't wanna.
Scared? Stay in the hotel room. Yeah, well, it's wasted on you. This city, this city's wonderful.
You should get out and explore it, it's beautiful, I know.
I know I get intimidated, I really do get intimidated, I get a little scared, and so I just stay in my hotel room.
Okay, I'm a loser. Well, I wouldn't say you're a loser. I'd say you're a very sad person.
Who will never win, but not a loser? Thanks, that's okay. I'm just curious, did anyone come from someplace really far away because last night's crowd...?
Okay, let's do this in a.
Yes, where are you from? You're from where you're from Bulgaria. Are you here on other business, or did you come all the way from Bulgaria just to see this show?
Don't lie.
Okay, no, okay, no, no, no, no, no.
I study here, I know for a fact that doesn't count.
There are people from Denmark here, I know that.
Oh, he's standing up.
Why? I love that? And so, he said, There's someone from Denmark here and this man shot up.
It's his eye hamlet, the dane.
I am Grydor. He's holding an exotic cheese. You're from Denmark and did you come here just for this and don't say no? I also live here. And I was wandering by and there was a bunch of empty seats in the front row.
Because that's humiliating.
Wow.
Wow, come here, I'm going to give this man a hug. I'm giving this man a hug.
Give this man a hug.
And what is your name, sir?
Christopher.
Okay, I wish it was something kind of fun, but it's not. That's my middle name. I was hoping it was like Grydor and it had like umlauts on it.
Unfortunately not, no.
I have a very silly. I thought, Oh, you'd have wooden shoes? I didn't know it was, and now I'm just disappointed. Guess what? There's an empty seat right there and it's yours if you want it.
Do you want it?
I definitely do, thank you.
Are you here with anyone else?
I'm here alone.
Right there, yeah.
Conan, Conan.
Give him this seat, come on, but I want to call you Grydor. Is that okay? You can call him?
Grydor right here.
For the next two minutes.
It's so, so nice to meet you. welcome, thank you. Oh yeah.
GRYDOR I can't call you Christopher. It just takes the whole fun. Look how self-assured this guy is.
You've been in show business for like, 30 seconds and you're like, let's move it along. Conan Grydor doesn't have time to waste.
I'm generally just going to call myself Grydor from now on.
I'm so, you're, you know? We can't let you have that seat the whole night, but you'll be there for another minute or two, then you're going back to that seat right there. Did you think this was going to happen when you flew here from Denmark?
I had no anticipation that this was ever going to happen, no.
Yeah.
This is guaranteed for anybody that comes from Denmark from here on out.
This will happen, this is our promise to Denmark.
I will go back to my country, tell my people that this is what happens when you go to Brooklyn.
I love that you are the spokesperson for your people. Like, you're going to get off the airport and everyone from Denmark is just going to be there and you're going to walk up to a microphone. It is true, if we go to Brooklyn, we can sit with Conan.
Yay.
They will all cheer and wave the Danish flag around.
Yes, they will. Yeah, this is, this is, I love this, this is fantastic, yeah.
Well, unfortunately, all good things must come to an end.
I love you, you're a great man.
I love all three of you.
Well, just me.
Let's keep the eye on the prize here. Christopher, I put you in that seat and I can take you out and I will.
Christopher, thank you so much. And please tell all the people of your beautiful country that they're always welcome at my show. If I happen to see them and call them up.
I mean, honestly, you should come visit, you have loads of fans in Denmark.
I will, I will come to visit. What about us? Those flights are expensive.
I will gladly show you around if you come visit.
Really.
Yes, all right, I'll do it.
It's a deal.
Back to your seat there, Christopher or Gregor?
Oh my God, look at him, you have to give the microphone back. don't let him leave with the microphone, take the microphone back.
Man.
The Danish people, Yeah, the Danish people are known microphone thieves. Well, look at this guy returning his jacket, that's nice, too.
You know, I think we should probably move along now because we should get on with the real, the meat of the show. This is nice, this is really fun, I'm excited and so I think we should all just get into a nice, quiet space.
And we should, yeah, just a quiet space, you know, you know? no, no, just relaxed and calm. And I think we should maybe dim the lights. And I think maybe it's time to bring out our mystery guest. Let's do that now.
My name is Adam Driver.
I'm here on behalf of the people of Crigor.
And the land which we represent. And I'm thrilled to be Conan O'Brien's friend.
Wow, are we honored to have you? This is amazing, This is absolutely amazing.
Uh, people are just people. Just lost it when they realized that you were coming on the show, that's got to feel good.
Yeah, no, it's out of body. It's very nice, it's very nice.
Yeah.
Now I'm going to put everyone to sleep.
No, I am so thrilled that you could do the show. I've been a massive fan of yours for a long time. And, uh, this was absolutely. When I found out that you were going to come do this, it just blew me away and I know you're, you're a Brooklyn guy.
So yeah, yeah, yeah, just down the street.
Yeah, okay.
We won't get specific.
I'll come by after the show, I just invited myself. Um, thank you so much for being here. And, uh, like I said, it's so funny because I don't know you. I'd met you once before when you were doing a panel for a movie and I met you, but I've loved your work.
And then I've always thought, I don't know, there's something that I kind of identify, I can identify with you a little bit.
Yeah, where's this going?
We're both leading men.
You're a following man.
No, what I meant was, I know that I've read things about you and you've said that you. You kind of felt like not comfortable in yourself. You know, being tall, do you know what I mean? I've read interviews with you and I've thought, Wait a minute, I know what that's like, only.
It seems to have worked out so much better for you. How do you explain that?
How to explain being tall?
Yeah.
Damn it you wise ass. No, it's awful. But did you, uh it? It took you a while to be comfortable in yourself. Do you think that's fair?
Oh, totally, yeah, yeah, yeah, well. Besides tall, in my school, it's hard to find clothes.
Nothing fucking fit. No, you can't fit in any cars.
You know, I, uh, I used to. I couldn't find pants cause my legs are famously long. And there was a whole period in, like the late 1970s, where my pants came to like, halfway down my shin. And I had that bowl haircut, uh, and I was just, uh, humiliated all the time this woman's wearing. Don't laugh at me when I was a child, I feel so bad for that kid.
No, you're describing it backstage, and what I see is bright, it's noticeable.
Thanks, pal.
I agree, that's terrible.
But did you, did you have? did you have the experience of, because you were tall, people assumed you were an athlete?
Yeah, well, especially in Indiana, if you're in Indiana, you have to play basketball.
And how did that work out? It was terrible.
Actually, I played in junior high, but I was on the A team and it was really bad. But then when they put me on the B team, I was really good. Cause I knew it didn't count. So then I turned into Jordan on the B team, but on the A team, it was just a mess.
Plus, they also had to buy those Nike tearaway pants and we couldn't afford them. So I was the only asshole running around the gym, you know, cause you would run around the gym before the game started. And I was just the one guy too tall to get the Nike tearaway pants, cause we couldn't afford it. I mean, that's not why my game was so bad, it was just.
I would have blamed the pants if I were you, I totally would have said these pants, they restrict me, otherwise I'd dunk.
No, I had that too. Well, no, cause I was six, four and people would say, Oh, you must be a great basketball player. But I. The height came suddenly, like very late, I grew tall very late in the game, literally overnight, like after college. And no, that's just stupid.
Come on. But I did, I got and so, and then I was very uncoordinated for, I mean, until the current day.
So we were talking. I think also a symptom of being tall is if you were in any way neutral people, because you're tall and most people aren't. They think you're mad when actually you're. We were talking about this a little bit backstage. I'm like, No, I'm mad, I'm fine.
You get this a lot because, uh, well, you probably get it less than I do. Because people know you playing that you, you're, you're so good at playing such intense roles. I've always been, you know, smiley guy. And so when I'm neutral, like just walking around Brooklyn, just with a neutral expression, people are like, Hey Conan, come on, be happy. Yeah, why aren't you dancing around like a clown?
I'm like, I'm fine, I'm just, you know, I am a real person, no?
When I walk around Brooklyn and the people are like, that, that fits.
He looks mad, that's what I assume.
So you have a hard time blending in. I would think, Oh, yeah, yeah.
I've tried things, I've tried hats. I've tried, uh, hoodies on hats, uh, under hats, you know, almost blankets and people.
Still, I think when you put a blanket over you and you walk around, people are going to look.
So now I don't do anything, I just like, Oh, fuck it, this is me.
That's a good way to be, yeah.
One of the things that I read about you, and I don't know if it's true, but is that? When you were young, you went through this period? I don't know if you want to call it a rebellious period or what. But you started a fight club because you saw the movie Fight Club and you're, I'm going to do that totally, yeah, guess what, I saw the movie Fight Club was not inspired to start a fight club.
So what happened? did you really do it?
Yeah, there's a friend of mine named Noah Peacock, who who had a house behind it. Like an event space called Celebrations Unlimited, it's, uh, it's on the corner of Laurel Street.
Wow, okay, we're doing an ad now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I. It's since I burned to the ground, I think. But and there was a field behind. Celebrations unlimited. And we would get together with our friends or people who were riding by on their bikes and we would fight them.
Wait, it sounds like that's a mugging. If it's someone's just if someone's just going by on their bike and they have not entered the fight club, that's just a random attack, yeah.
We'd take their loose cash, take their bike, and we'd fight each other.
Did you, um, and were there rules? did you guys have certain rules so you wouldn't get hurt?
Yeah, don't hitting in the balls, and I think that was pretty much it.
That's the only, that's the only rule.
But it was also, you know, it was the Mishawaka, Indiana. There wasn't a, you know, it's not a cultural hub, but it's a. So, there's not really much to do other than go to the video store, rent movies and beat the shit out of each other.
What movies did you watch? You were renting, like VHS movies? yeah.
Every I'm a Fight Club, uh, was one of them. But all, all of the movies that I, you know, that were a big influence on me. That, you know Jim Jarmusch movies, you know Scorsese, and you know every everything a mode of our movies.
One of the things that I find really admirable about you is you're you've had a lot of success, you're incredibly talented. But like a lot of people, it didn't come quickly, it didn't happen easily. You, you kept at it. You wanted to go and study acting, you knew at a fairly early age, that's something you wanted to do.
Yeah, I knew I was in high school and I did a play and then I, you know, I, I loved it. It was like it was Oklahoma. It was the first play that I did in high school and I was like, Yeah, uh, curly, oh yeah.
No, I wasn't curly, I was in the uh, uh, I was in the cast, I had, uh, the the chorus. I had one line, I said, Check his heart.
That was my line.
And I was hooked, but you killed it, I nailed it.
Yeah, and then I knew that Juilliard didn't check grades. uh, so I applied to Juilliard and everyone else seemed to check grades. And I got, and I got rejected. I didn't, I didn't get it.
And then it's a terrible story, but they're going to be more like this.
But it's inspirational because you then you try to go out to L.A. I think, right?
Yeah, that's right. Then I put all my shit in my car. I had like, a like, a 1990, uh, Lincoln town car that, uh, I, it was a hand-me-down. I took it.
I put everything in my, uh, the back of the car, my. As soon as I turned 18, my parents were like, you're moving to the back of the house. You have to pay rent, you have to have your own fridge, you have to make all your own shit.
And I put all of that in the back of this car, so it was my mini fridge, everything I owned. I said, I had this girlfriend at the time and I said goodbye, you know, like I'll never.
I must leave you now.
Yeah, yeah, and I drove all the way to, Uh, California on the way Flagstaff, Arizona. My car broke down. I spent all the money, most of the money I had fixing it. I got to L.A. UH, for like, a couple of days, ran out of money and turned around, drove right back.
Oh my god.
I had no other choice, I had no options, I had no friend there, I had no. Uh, I gave my money to some company that's supposed to, uh, help you find an apartment, which was a total fucking scam. And after a while, I didn't want to call my parents and ask for more money.
And I, No, nobody helped me out, so I had enough money. I had $200 in gas money and I drove all the way back and then, like, reconnected with my girlfriend.
Remember me?
Who's this guy? Um, you know, it's interesting, cause I know that you, uh, you were in the Marines for a bit and uh, which I think is awesome.
And it's interesting, cause it does make sense to me. But you've talked about how that was a good experience for you and that you feel like you've been able to channel it into your acting career.
Oh yeah, absolutely.
In what, in what ways specifically?
It's obviously the stakes are different. One is pretending it's life or death, and the other they are. But they, the way you work on a film and a play is very similar to the military you don't. In my instance, I was a, uh, 81 millimeter. Mortarman, so that's a gun team.
And, uh, the chain of command is is very obvious when you have a director who's in charge. Everyone's trying to accomplish a mission that's bigger than any one person, someone's leading it. And when they know what they're doing, what you're doing feels exciting and active and necessary, and when they don't, it feels fucking awful. And like a waste of time and a waste of resources.
And you're, you're. The better you do your role, someone else's, you know, the better someone else can do their role. You're fighting, you're improvising, you're fighting, uh, technology, your time, the sun, you know, all of these, uh, uh it. It makes it feel more communal in my mind. It's not, it's not. I'm coming in and doing my role and everyone adapt to what I'm doing.
I, I, Uh, I would also think that. I mean, because one of the things that I really admire about your performances, and not just in film. But it's something that I've noticed, uh, I in another lifetime, wrote for Saturday Night Live. And I love, I love when you do the show. I absolutely love when you do the show because you are fantastic. And one of the things that I noticed about it in so many of the sketches you do is your approach is as if you are making a scorsese film. You go out there with this intensity, I'm thinking, there's one sketch that really pops for me. Where it's, uh. It's a class day where people are supposed to have their father or their mother come in and you come in and you approach it with more conviction.
Your whole thing is nothing funny is happening here, this is not funny, this is life or death, and you're leaning in to Pete Davidson's face.
And I watched that sketch, and I think that's the way people should play sketches. Very few people can. Uh, and and you do that all the time. When you, when you take what you do in drama and you use it in comedy, it's absolutely brilliant, it's fantastic.
Oh, well, that's I don't know how to follow that up. That's very nice of you to say, coming from you in particular.
Well, I just I. I've always thought it's commitment, it's total commitment. And, uh, and I noticed, like, you're not card bound on the cue, cards and stuff. I can tell that you've prepared. Like, No, this is important, we've, this has got to be just right.
Yeah.
You'd notice the difference.
Yeah, the cue, the cue card thing is also cause I'm not a very good, I can't read very well, I wasn't, I'm not a okay.
I'm taking this compliment back.
I did not have a good education. But but, but no, when I get, when I get nervous, I'll go over them with Wally there all the time, all the way up until when you're supposed to walk out.
You know, it's interesting to talk about commitment. Um, I really loved, Uh, and I, I mentioned this to you once, cause we had a chance to chat not too long ago and I mentioned that. Um, I was a big fan of the movie Lincoln, and this is when you were just starting to get your break. I think you was this before girls, or after, maybe.
Uh, right, right around the same time, right around the same time.
And you got, it's a very small part, but you have this amazing scene, you're a telegraph operator, and, uh, it's a small scene. But I remembered even then thinking like, Oh, this, you like, you pop in that scene, and and, uh, that's pretty cool, uh. And I was talking to you about it, and you said that, yeah, you learned how to operate a telegraph machine for that scene. And I didn't even think that was necessary, right?
Yeah, no, well, I thought it was cause I read the scene and he was operating a telegraph. So I'm like, Well, I don't know how to do that.
No, but I'm telling you, this is how we're different, this is why, this is why you're Adam driver. And I'm this guy over here is because I'd have learned my lines and everything. And then I've been like, and probably doing bits. And then Lincoln would come by and I'd be like, Hi, Lincoln, you know? And you learned really how to send a morse code?
Well, yeah, I try. I tried to learn the alphabet. And then when I got there, they just hooked it up to a machine and that's what I found out the first day. They're like, Oh, you didn't need to do that, we just hooked it up to the machine then that that was kind of a metaphor for the rest of my career.
You know, a lot of, a lot of just wasted energy spent in, like, running really fast in the wrong direction for a long time. And then showing up and like, it's all fucking different. I'm not, you know, like, I give up, you know?
Well, you have to talk about something kind of delicate here, because you are sitting in the company of Mr. Matt Gourley, who's one of the biggest Star Wars fans of all time and knows everything about the franchise. And you, first of all, you were brilliant in the Force Awakens, absolutely brilliant in that role. And so and so. The scene where you're working your way down the corridor with the lightsaber is one of the best, just most best. I thought, I think, movie depictions of intensity that I've seen, of someone who's just determined to get from point A to point B. And pure rage and wrath.
And I was like, that I've watched that many times, it's so cool. But then you occupy this complicated space, probably for for Matt, because you you killed Han Solo.
Well, thank you. Conan. Uh, no, but you did it with such style that well. I want to know is if if you learn the telegraph, how do you go about learning the force for something like that?
He could really levitate X-wing fighters. We have a machine for that.
Yeah, a lot of, a lot of jumping rope.
No, I got nothing, I don't know.
No, I, I'm just happy to be here with you.
Have you have you met Harrison?
Has he come on the show? Oh, he's been on the show. Harrison Ford did the show, Uh, not pretty recently. And he was, almost he was. It was so funny, cause he's, you know, people don't realize how funny he is. But he came in and immediately started yelling at me. I don't know who we hear is listening to the Harrison Ford episode.
If you haven't heard it, it was really.
And then, at one point, he saw my notes and I was just reminding myself. Cause he's done so many roles like to bring up, you know, and I just written in the corner.
Han Solo of this little like blue card, like, just so I would remember, like, cause you can get lost in the conversation, just remember, like, Oh no, that's a 30 different roles he's played. And at one point, Harrison looks over and he sees that on my blue card, and he goes, what he said, You can't fucking remember, Han Solo.
And then I had to go with it, so I went well, you don't really pop in those movies. And then I could just see his eyes get real big and then it was just a bloodbath. It was so much fun.
And then I think he yelled at all of us, I think it was him yelling at us the whole time, which was really fun.
Not at me.
No, no one yells at you, Sona, you're perfect.
Do you never make a mistake? You know how to drink from a cup?
Just like any adult, I had the pleasure of seeing your movie. Ferrari. Oh, you did, I did. What I never loved is that this is just a weird thing about my life.
If I want to watch a movie, they burn in the name Conan, and so when I'm watching, you do a really and you're terrific. In this movie, he plays Enzo Ferrari. That you'll be doing this great scene, and then Conan would just come up over your face.
And I'm like, that's how I imagine you see the world, though.
You know, my name's coming up right now, but you play Enzo Ferrari and I really knew I didn't really know anything about him. And again, first of all, the look of this movie is extraordinary.
Like the attention to detail, the clothes. It takes place in 1957. And this is this very pivotal year, when Ferrari's company is on the verge of maybe going under. He's got a very complicated personal life. And but you're driving around and the car. The movie features these vintage 1957 Ferraris.
Yeah, I am not a car guy, but I was looking at these just drooling, like, they're absolutely beautiful. Did you get to drive any of these?
No, no, they won't let the they have, they have them there. If we had like one or two, there were $70 million, one of them, how much? $70 million?
Oh my God, so they have these cones that are sitting around the car. And there's a couple of people that their job all day long is just to tell people, get the fuck. Away from the car, they're like, get away from the car, move on, move on, move on from the car. And then when it comes time to the scene, they roll it in and then they start the car.
And you know, I got to touch the engine and I could have sat in it. But $70 million? I'm like, we're barely keeping it together. I don't want to touch this car because we're going to have to wind up paying for it. It'll be Ferrari's, you know, Enzo Ferrari story. So they, they I tried to stay away from it.
Yeah, but. But then they did an exact replica of the actual cars, where they built the chassis and put the and those I would drive, and those are. Those are terrifying because you're just you're aware of how they, you know. It wasn't because they were absent-minded that they didn't put seatbelts on. It just wasn't part of the the. It wasn't part of the vehicles at that time, then it wasn't, people weren't thinking about it.
And the kind of goal was. The ideal scenario was to be thrown out of the car because you didn't want to be in the car when it was on fire. Which does make sense. I loved it.
That was the safety precaution they took back then.
Yeah, I'll tuck and roll.
Let's hope that you are thrown free at 120 miles an hour, but don't worry you're wearing a leather helmet, maybe.
You're right.
Uh, no, and and uh, the movie, Um, I again, I think what you do, uh, so superbly. In every role, you, you can bring this intensity. And what's great is Enzo Ferrari in this film is a very driven man. I mean, he's literally it's, uh, he's. He's made it through World War II bombings in, Uh, in Italy, and through the rubble he has made. Managed to keep his car company going.
And he's going through all this very complicated stuff. And you are just in the same way as I mentioned, uh, about Star Wars. That your intensity, your focus comes through in every scene. Which is, do not fuck with this guy. Do you know what? I mean? This man is going to get done what he needs to get done.
Again, that's very nice. I have no power in film.
I have, there's, I have, no, I have. My compliments mean nothing, and they won't help you in any way.
Um, no, he was a very, and he's also, you know, it's impossible to tell everyone's version of who he was, because he was very. And I think the movie does this. He was a different, a different person to different people, obviously as people are, but he is very much also. Michael, you know, Michael is as as, uh, meticulous and almost wills films into existence. Because the nothing, nothing on set is really helps you to kind of make a movie. You know, you're talking about Michael Mann, Michael Mann, the director of the movie.
Yeah, yeah, uh, so there's also I'm not going to give anything away, but there's a, there's a. There's a scene in the movie. I watched it with my 17 year old son, Uh, and there's a scene in the movie where there's a. Well, there's a couple of scenes where there's some crashes depicted, but there's one that's depicted that. His jaw fell off onto the ground and rolled around.
And so did mine. It's absolutely one of the craziest looking things I've seen in a film in a long time.
Yeah, I, I. I didn't watch the films that I was in for a long time. And then the last couple of years, I just like, Oh, fuck it, I'll watch, I'll watch it and see, uh, what that's like.
And so talk about that you've never watched yourself and then you've just started now, yeah, and what's? what's your experience been?
It's it's awful, it's awful until it's not awful. My thing about not watching is you kind of got to watch it five times. To forget the shock of all the mistakes that you made. And then you got to watch it again. To be like, Oh, okay, you know, now, if I remember the circumstances of the movie, then you, the more you watch it, the more that starts to deaden, and you start to watch the movie.
And then also I just felt like I would be very, um, external about it. Like, I try to make it to look a certain way. And I feel like you're playing it. Uh, knowing what the internal life is is more is more important.
You did not think you would be, ever be a leading man.
No, I still, I don't still think I'm like a leading man. I think I'm kind of eking by getting lead roles in movies. Until they won't ask me to do that anymore. But I was going to say about the crash though, is that in New York Film Festival? I did? I did watch, uh, I did watch it, uh. We had seen it in Venice and it was. It was strange, but in in New York Film Festival when that scene happened. I'd never been in a theater ever that had that kind of reaction. Everybody, people were yelling, you know, and.
It's shocking and crazy looking. And it's in a world where, you know, so many films depict things like The sky opens. And you know, uh, we're. We're used to these action movies where amazing CGI things happen and craziness happens and you kind of get dead into it. And then I don't know how they did it, but in this scene, uh, it, it's, um, just kind of mind blowing. And it stuck with me for a long time afterwards. It was really powerful.
In Michael's movies, anyway, it seems like if it's a big movie, then it's dumb, or it's big. And it's playing to the lowest common denominator. And if it's an art movie, it's so obscure that no one's going to fucking watch it. And there's something great about, and I love those, uh, not the big dumb ones, but I like the ones that are interesting also. But there's something about Michael's movies in particular, that they're a great, they're cinematic, it's character driven, which also seems to be a hard thing to find in films. Now, uh, it's, it's accessible to anyone.
It's not pretentious at all, but it's just 15 degrees to the right, where it's just it's really, it's. You know, he has these move moments in his movies, It's just pure cinema, it's just just moving images. You know, I'm, I'm really proud of being a part of it.
Do you? Is there something in your career that you've been thinking about? Or you aspire to as something like a next move that you? Or something you dream about? Or do you do? You just take this like, roll at a time and think, I, I, I, I'm just I'm going from moment to moment in my career.
A bit of both. I always had the ambition because it's a director's medium, that it just makes sense to me to work with good directors. If you can and be available, so if something happens that, uh, that you're available to do that. But then I can't really control where that goes. And then also I would say that, uh, now kind of biology is taken over a bit. Where things that I would do in my twenties, um, you know that now I'm about to turn 40, I've, I'm like a little, and I have two kids, you know, it's just different now. Uh, things that I would do before, I wouldn't do now, and now it's more about.
Like, I want to be home more if I can, which I know is, uh, um, uh, a luxury. But also because they, uh, I like to kind of be at them from the beginning now. And so that's kind of been a thing that's been dictating what what I want to do next.
Yeah, it's funny you'd mentioned that, cause I'm 20 years older than you.
And I'm kidding, I'm sorry, I know, I know I'm sorry.
You were very nice and I'm just fucking it up.
No, you said what everyone in the whole room was like, Jesus, let's get this man an ambulance.
And I'm always amazed that I'm still doing the things. I was always very physically silly and goofy, and I always just assumed that that would go away. You know, once I got into my thirties or forties, it hasn't gone away yet, and I'd still behave in a way.
Wouldn't you agree? That's like, come on, have some silver.
But, I mean, from the outside, it's obvious why you are in the position you are, you have incredible discipline and you're brilliant, you know, you have, like, such a.
Yeah.
That's obvious.
It's funny because we were both, it was, it was, we had a nice moment together. Where just before we came out here, they wanted to take some pictures for the comedy festival. And you and I both were the exact same. Which is, we were uncomfortable having our pictures, people would think we would love having our pictures taken. And then we started talking about how we love to do what we do. I love what I do.
And you clearly are very passionate and love what you do. But then there's this part where you're supposed to look at people. And and um, and I like taking. I love taking pictures with like fans and people. That feels like a real thing. But whenever I'm standing alone and people are like, let's get some photos of you, yeah.
I feel like an idiot. Yes, I feel like an absolute idiot. Nothing. It's, uh, it's very, I don't know.
It's I feel the exact same way I'm and also I look mad. I feel like I'm smiling, but I just look mad all the time, and so I see pictures later. I'm like I was smiling.
I was fine. But it doesn't. Then you're tall on top of it and people just think you're furious.
And that's the but also you can look really intense.
Yeah, I can.
So you're relaxed, like I'm just watching a tennis match or a basketball game, or whatever, a baseball game. But if you're just let your face fall a little bit, it does look like you're you're out for murder. You know, it's murder in time, yeah.
Yeah, and also I'm just not good at it, I don't like it. When they tell me to like, smile or move over here, I'm like, No, you know, I don't want to like, so I. There's some I know like a child.
Yeah, I don't know why, that's just that's the impulse that comes up. Whenever a bunch of people are telling me to do something, I'm like, No, I don't, I don't want to do that.
Yeah, that's what happened when we asked you to do the podcast.
But we tricked you, we told you this was a restaurant.
Yeah, this has been an absolute joy and a real nice surprise for everybody here that you would take the time to come see us.
I don't know exactly when this is going to drop, as the kids say, but a Ferrari's in theaters nationwide Christmas Day, and you gotta go check it out. Because it's a great movie. And to say Adam Driver gives a great performance, it's just like, at this point, yeah, exactly.
Cause you do, it's just your, your, your money in the bank. I really enjoy watching you and I in a lot of ways admire you. I think you're a very impressive person and very cool that you would spend time with us tonight.
Thank you, I feel the same about you.
That man does not disappoint. I love that guy and to see that reaction too, that made me so happy. It's so much just to see the crowd lose. It was really nice.
Didn't do it when I came out.
Yeah, he got a way bigger ice, yeah.
He got a much bigger and then I had to spend 20 minutes receding. People, yeah.
Well, his was also. It wasn't just longer, it was louder.
It's so loud.
Yeah, there was an intensity, people were like, Oh shit, wow, that's, you know, when I came out, there was it was nice.
Yeah, some dude.
It was like, you know, the inevitable arrival of death, you know what's coming?
There's nothing we can do about it. Conan's coming, he's up there, we know he's going to come out, so let's accept it.
People go through different stages and then they're like, we accept that Conan's going to come out, yeah, and that's where we are.
Well, we have a very special treat right now, and by treat, I mean, almost in the literal sense, an edible, delicious treat. Because if you've been following the podcast, you know that there's been a bit of a contest between the three of us in terms of sandwiches.
So a wonderful fellow named Jay at EJ's Luncheonette has.
He said that he would. We could each have our own signature sandwich.
And we got to make up what those sandwiches were.
Yes, yeah, I don't remember what mine was. I'm not a fan of this podcast.
No, I remembered, I think mine was corned beef, wasn't it?
Yeah, that's right.
What was on mine? Corned beef Russian dressing.
Coleslaw.
Coleslaw.
I think that's it.
Okay, I didn't mean that's it, that's a great sandwich, I think that's it, I think that's it.
Yeah, and a $20 bill tucked in there somewhere, like it's lettuce. Sona, what was your sandwich? do you remember?
Mine was a gyro with no fucking tomatoes, and it was very specific it had no tomatoes.
Because you hate tomatoes, I hate tomatoes. Is it the texture or the taste? both, both?
I don't care for it. I think the middle is like boogers I actually am. When people eat tomatoes in front of me, I'm disgusted by those people. Okay, yeah, you know.
You get it, that guy gets it.
Yeah, everyone's just eating boogers.
He also won't ride a cab because he knows there's jizz all over it.
People are just ejaculating all over the city.
No one's doing that. I don't know what movies you're watching.
It's coded in ejaculate, it's not true.
It's unbelievable, that's untrue. And what about you? What was your sandwich?
Mine was a patty melt that we called well, first, we call it the matty pelt, but that was gross. You don't want to eat that.
The matty pelt is disgusting.
Yeah, so it's the matty melt, and it's on Hawaiian bread, and it has American cheese. Because it's for patriots, it's for anybody that considers themselves an American.
That was low.
Anybody who doesn't eat it would be like a Stalin-era Soviet.
My sandwich is called the Khrushchev.
So we also learned, by the way, that there's a finite number of these sandwiches tonight.
Right, so this gentleman brings these sandwiches here, and as a backup, he brought just so many, not that much, but he brought a backup sandwich or two. And tell us what happened. I just found out about this seconds before the show.
So did I. Our wonderful lawyer here at Team Coco, David Melamed, just saw a platter of sandwiches and ate one. But the important thing to note is that someone who has to be discerning has to know what is right wrong. What is the top of the heap? Chose the matty melt to eat.
Oh, that's what he did, he chose yours. I don't know, that guy doesn't seem that smart to me.
Anyway, the long story short is we have Jay here and we get to try out these sandwiches.
We get to try our sandwiches.
So why don't we bring him out?
Let's bring him out right now, OK, ladies and gentlemen. Jay from EJ's Luncheonette, the man that made it all happen.
Thanks guys, thank you very much. Oh my God, these look amazing. these look great.
Hi Jay, Jay, hello Jay, welcome to the show and thank you for doing this.
Man has so many sandwiches.
I'm coming in.
I'd like to find out quickly, maybe you could tell everybody. Of the three sandwiches, is there one that's the clear favorite? Do you want me to lie to you?
You want me to tell you the truth, I want to know the truth. The matty melt.
Fuck.
What was that, I don't know.
Why?
Why is it so popular?
That was such an awkward strut, that was just awful what you did. I didn't want to look at it and that's what happened to your spine.
I was strutting, I was weird.
I was victory.
That was weird.
I was strutting.
I'm just strutting down the boulevard, you know what? All right? So I'm intrigued here, this is my sandwich.
And tell us what's on? That's a good looking sandwich, right? Everybody? That's corned beef. that's half a pound of corned beef.
Half a pound of corned beef, coleslaw and Russian This is a colon killer right here. I love this half a pound of corned beef and Russian dressing.
Coleslaw, Coleslaw, So a pretty simple sandwich. pretty simple sandwich, okay?
Why do you think this piece of shit is selling through the roof? It's the Hawaiian bread, it's delicious, it's hard to fight.
I would also like to say that on the flight in here. I told Sona that we were going to do this and we're going to get to taste our sandwiches. And Sona, you said, Can I just try yours? what?
You don't remember this? Try yours, yes, we said last night she was high on the flight. Yeah, yeah.
That's good for a high snack.
What is yours, Sona? what's on yours?
Mine is a gyro, I'm already eating it, she's got good gyro meat.
It's a good one.
That's good stuff.
We were eating about the show today and all Sona kept saying is we get to eat these sandwiches, right? Oh yeah, and you kept talking about it like, you can't get a sandwich in your regular life.
I said, I'm going to fuck this gyro.
All right, I'm going to Jesus Christ.
And you won't get in a cab.
Are you not eating it?
I think we should have.
I think we should have, that's pretty good, I think we should have a....
Someone who's not biased, an unbiased person, maybe from another country, maybe.
I think you should come up here, Christopher, Christopher.
Christopher, come on up.
Christopher, you're going to take a bite out of each sandwich, and Christopher, you can take my seat right here. I mean, why the I'm just a guy that I'm an usher at this show.
That's delicious. I just see people, it's really good. Now. You should take a bite of each and then tell me, honestly, Christopher, which one that you prefer, okay?
So I'm choosing between the sandwiches, not the three of you.
No, no, not the three of us. Just which sandwich you like? Just take a bite. Yeah, just take a bite out of each one. Do it very quickly, so you're in danger of choking.
That's a huge bite that is okay. What do you think?
That's pretty good.
I don't seem thrilled now this, it's American, oh God.
That was too big a bite.
I know I said, you need to take three bites.
That was too big a bite.
Okay.
It's very dry.
Well, it's very dry. Yeah, okay, I wish we had somebody to wash it down. Does anyone backstage have anything that?...?
What do you like to drink? And not some kind of like, groggy or something? How about this? I like Grugen, Gragen, this water.
There's some water right there out of that cup.
That's Conan's water.
And that cup is yours, by the way. Yeah, I'll have security, take it away from you on the way out.
And then beat the shit out of you if you choose the wrong sandwich.
I actually do like this better, yes.
Yes.
Mine's good.
It's Greek.
It's European like you, same continent.
I'm sorry, this is delicious.
Yes.
Yes.
Okay, you know what? you were honest? Denmark, Denmark No.
No one else. You were honest, and you know what? No, your people are very honest people and you were honest about it. But which was the sandwich you liked the least?
And keep in mind that you're not American.
Well, I am not American, so it's all right that I say I did like yours the least. Matt I'm very sorry, yes.
Okay, thank you so much. Can we get an American up here, an actual citizen? All right, you can take those sandwiches back to your seat with you, because let's hear it for Christopher.
That is good, right?
I did, too.
I lost enjoy, thank you very much. I don't know where I'm going, though this guy's killing it.
Jay, where do you come down on this?
Yeah, what do you think is the best sandwich? My two favorite are the corned beef and the matty Mel. Oh, thank you.
Okay, I'm sorry, I didn't mean that. And Jay, what do you think is the best sandwich?
It's all delicious, but for me, this is great, but for me, it's the Matty Mel. I'm a burger guy.
Okay, you can go now, all right, Jay.
Ladies and gentlemen, let's hear it for Jay. Thank you so much, Jay.
Thank you, thank you, you're a gentleman. thank you for doing that. No problem.
Very nice of you to do it, and that's a delicious sandwich, it really is. Yeah, I'm glad you guys enjoyed it.
You used the right pita and the right meat.
That's homemade.
I don't know what that is. Yeah, thank you very much sir. All right, let's give that man a hand.
All right, what's next? what's next, Matt?
That's good a bite, okay? We're going to go ahead and do some pre-selected voicemails, nice?
These are voicemails we're going to listen to. Oh, what are we doing? There's people coming down the aisle.
And you've got something all over your face.
Let's hope it's sauce, here we go.
Ladies and gentlemen, first up, is it Haley Rich? That's correct, welcome.
What is your name? I didn't hear it, Haley, Haley. How are you, Haley?
I've been better.
It's just not my night tonight. Are you unhappy with your seat?
That, among other things, what is your problem?
Fill us in. We have this great show. What's the problem? What's going on?
No, I'm happy to be here, I'm very excited, thank you.
We got you up to a baseline, okay with things?
I actually just moved here from Boston, I know you're a big Boston guy.
Yeah, that's where I'm from.
And now I'm in Williamsburg, apparently you live there too.
I live in Williamsburg. Yes, you've researched me well.
We're soulmates, I guess.
Do you live in Williamsburg now? I do. Yeah, I lived there, I think, maybe 30 years before your birth.
It was a very different time, very different time, not such a cool place to live then.
Do you have a question for me?
I do I have a question? I was supposed to go to this show with my mom, but she actually bailed on me.
Wait, she bailed.
She bailed, Yeah.
And you told her, it's Conan O'Brien, right?
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