Championship Sunday, Lions All Time Loss And The Ravens No Show Sets Up Chiefs/Niners Part 2, Plus Who's Back Of The Week
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It is 58, right?
I'm not good with Roman numerals.
I hate Roman numerals, but Super Bowl 58 is set Chiefs Niners rematch from a few years ago. We're going to talk about both the AFC Championship game, the NFC Championship game. Brutal, brutal loss for the Lions, brutal loss for the Ravens, too, but a different way.
So we're going to get into that, we're going to do fastest two minutes, we're going to maybe talk a little basketball. We got who's back of the week, some coach, we get more, we have more coach talk to go. Because PFt, you're about to hire yours, and Bill Belichick might be out of a job.
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Welcome to part of my take. Today is Monday, January 29th, and it's Championship Sunday. what? what? Championship Sunday?
Some spread Sunday, Sunday, Sunday. Not gonna get them.
In Baltimore, where the Ravens offense looked like it was ready for a bad Valentine's Day instead of Super Bowl Sunday. Because all they could get was likely flowers. I say, I say, I say, I say. A pacheco made the Ravens look like big chickens, scampering to a second quarter score, and the Ravens, much like Forrest Gump, abandoned the run and said, I think I'll go home now. I can't even do Forrest Gump. I think I'll go home now, I think I'll go.
Home now.
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Be going to her first Super Bowl and it will be a hot topic who will be inside her box for the big game. Speaking of Taylor's box, the Ravens watched their season tick-tock away as Jackson Mahomes hit his dance on the City of Baltimore. Chiefs 17, Ravens 14. Out West Brock Purdy Woman made a.
Couple big mistakes, huge in the first half before getting the Niners offense into Richard Gere. Speaking of into Richard Gere. They ran through the A gap like a couple of hamsters. Colon scoring two touchdowns to put the Lions up early, Josh Burt Reynolds found the centerfold of the defense but couldn't make a play. Girl a Christian escaped the Lions den and found the end zone for the game-winning score. And Lieutenant Dan Campbell needs new legs, magic legs, because he bit off his own kneecaps.
Niners 34, The Lions 31.
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The Chiefs and the Niners set to meet in Las Vegas in the desert. We're running it back, we're running it back last time.
This happened, this was our last four weeks of fun. Yes, so rip to the NCAA tournament in 2024..
Oh my God, don't say that there will be no Spring League football. New strain, New strain of Covid. Uh, I have just just high level before we get into the games. I've seen some people complain that, like, Well, this matchup stinks because we've seen it. Whether it be Taylor Swift, the Chiefs fatigue, I don't care.
There's nothing that would ever stop me from enjoying the Super Bowl to its maximum. You know, like it's the last game of football of the year. Yeah, I can't believe there's actually people like, I'm not going to watch.
Shut up, you're going to watch, you're going to watch, you're going to like it. I almost stopped watching.
Today because they canceled the B2 flyover in Baltimore because of weather, and then they cut away from the flyover on the West Coast. Game, which is the least American thing you could do, that'll get you most unpatriotic thing. Well, they tried, they didn't try hard enough, but it's you're going to watch the Super Bowl because it's two great teams.
It's Patrick Mahomes continuing his quest to topple Tom Brady, which might take a while. I've actually got some stats here. I'd like to see what Hank has to say about these. Oh, we're going to get right into it, yeah.
I think that we should. I mean, Patrick Mahomes was great. We can talk about the other.
Stuff, yeah. Chiefs 17, Ravens 10. The AFC. Championship game. Um, yeah, let's hop, right.
Into it, all, right? So here's some stats for the first six years of the two of them starting in the NFL. Mahomes 72 and 22 Tom Brady, 70 and 24 Playoff record, Mahomes 14 and three.
Tom Brady 12 and two four AFC titles for Mahomes. Three for Brady. Two rings for Mahomes. Playing for a third, Brady had three rings and touchdown to interception 258 to 69 for Mahomes. 167 to 87 for Tom Brady. Yeah, I mean, it's tough to deny.
Uh, if he wins a Super Bowl, he's, he's on pace.
Yeah, I'd say, I'd say, ahead of pace, yeah, that's inevitable. And this game was, uh, it was crazy, because the beginning of the game, it was like, Well, this is going to be just Patrick Mahomes surgically dicing up the Ravens defense.
That first drive was perfect, that second drive was peak Mahomes, cause they had four third down conversions that were all Mahomes especially. He had a scramble and then that that flip play to Travis Kelsey, which was like, how the hell did this just happen?
It was vintage, as backyard stuff it was. It was crazy, so so so the game starts and you're like, Well, this is just going to be my home's day. Then the Ravens defense showed up and they played great ball for basically this, like, you know, after they scored. After the Chiefs went up 14 seven, uh, early in the second quarter, for the rest of the game, the entire second half, the Chiefs had a 98 yards, but it didn't matter because it was way more about the Chiefs defense. And what Steve Spagnuolo did to Lamar Jackson and I, I do want to say real quick, Steve Spagnuolo i he. He is probably one of, if not the best, defensive coordinators of all time.
When you think about what he's done, he's got three Superbowls, he stopped the UH, 17 and O, or 18 and O Patriots, Uh, one of the.
Best offenses of all time held them to how many points? uh, how many do they have? 17, 17 they.
Had. The Ravens were one of the best, uh, teams this year in terms of offense, like completely befuddled the MVP of the league they had before, uh, after the game. I don't know if you guys saw, but the the shirts that in Spags we trust shirts, which are awesome. And you can tell like every single guy on that defense just trusts everything that Steve Spagnuolo is doing. And he said, before the game, be relentless, be a pack of wolves, just get after it.
And that's what they did, like it was Steve Spagnuolo just ate Todd Munkin and John Harbaugh's lunch for four quarters. That's what we watched. And again, it was Patrick Holmes early.
And then it was the chiefs defense for the basically, for the majority of the game. Just completely like making the Ravens look stupid and getting them out of what they do well. And he deserves all the credit in the world because he that was a masterful game plan.
They had so, so I should say that the score that super was actually 17 to 14. So they won with 17 points, they won with seven, just like the Chiefs did. This is from, uh, Ranney Jesalieri, by dvo way.
We already knew that 2023 Ravens were incredible, right? The 2007 Patriots were one of the other greatest teams ever by that stat, and Spags both won big games against those.
Teams by scoring 17 points, he was the MVP of this game and that's not taking anything away from the Chiefs offense. And again, like that, Mahomes, that second drive, the first drive was scripted, plays that that worked perfectly. And we thought, Oh, there's going to be a long, long day for the Ravens defense.
And like I said, the Ravens defense showed up, they even forced a field goal off of Uh, or Lamar fumbled. That was when I thought the game was like, fully, fully over, uh. But they they did a good job of stopping the Chiefs for the majority of the game.
It was just the chief's defense was just incredible. Yeah, so shout out to Spagnuolo did.
You know that he does an award, a weekly award for his defense, it's called the Cram Award. Whichever team like, crams the hardest. I love that, like for hardest hitting big plays. They get the Cram Award, and the winner of the Cram Award gets a home cooked meal from Steve Spagnuolo. His wife makes you whatever you want.
So you have to scram before the game, cram before the game, and then you cram after the game. Okay, cause Luxurious needs to get the.
Cram Award for the for the for punching out Zay Flowers you cram during the game.
You cram during the game, so he crammed the ball right out of Zay Flowers. it was a cram pie. The play of the game, yeah.
When you fumble at the one yard line, that's it's so deflating. Because you've done all that work, you've gone that entire distance and then just to have it happen. That's why Bill told you, don't reach out to one. Yeah, don't reach out at the one.
So it.
Was, yeah, it was a Chiefs like this is. And hank, I think you've actually kind of admitted it now that my homes and the chiefs are the new patriots. And just how they do it. Like this wasn't an explosion of offense by the Chiefs. It wasn't like they were. Just, I mean, they were better than the Ravens, the right team one, but it was like they have shape shifted year to year.
And especially even in this year, where it looked like they were like, had no chance of going to the Superbowl. To a team that is the toughest team in the league, yeah, and on the road, too, they beat.
They beat Buffalo at Buffalo, they beat the Ravens at Baltimore. That obviously adds to the narrative that before it was like, you can only win at home this playoffs. He's done it on the road, they've.
Won 66 of the road playoff games that have been won. Uh, this playoffs. The Packers is the only other team that won a road playoff game. That's crazy. one, two Packers won one. It's pretty.
Crazy, and the defense was the story. But we're still going to just talk about the homes, because, yeah, it's fucking Patrick. No, I mean, that that drive, he was really good also. I mean, there should be some blame on Todd Munkin and that offense. Well, Lamar, we got to get to the defense.
It was bad the defense for the Chiefs over the course of the season. I think they were tied for 27th in terms of yards per carry allowed. And then do you know how many times the Ravens ran the ball today? Yeah, eight.
They ran the ball to the running backs eight times. Lamar had a couple others, but they ran the ball with the running backs eight times. Today. They just it was crazy.
To watch they. It felt like they had a game plan and then the first three and out happened. And they're like, Well, we'll just abandon all of this. And Lamar was not good, that that is a fact, like Lamar did not play well.
He was missing receivers early. That interception to likely was one of the worst situational awareness balls I've ever seen thrown. Cause you not only have Isaiah likely triple teamed, but you're in a situation where you're down 10 in the fourth quarter. It's like, you need to, no matter what, get a field goal here so that you make it a one score game with Justin Tucker.
That's a pretty certain thing that when you're in that, like, what were they at the 30 or 20? And having that happen was just like, how do you have that happen?
What, how do you throw that ball? Their offense was just Zay Flowers is down there somewhere for the most of the most of the game. Um, they, they threw it to, likely a couple of times, and with Zay, uh, when I say they ran the ball eight times, two of those were like little swing passes, yeah.
Was a flowers or gadget plays with Zay Flowers? So they really only ran the ball with the running back six times over the course of the entire game, and it was, yeah, Todd Munkin deserves.
A ton of blame, but I Lamar did. It was not. He was not like precise, he w. He had guys, he missed guys routinely all day, which is deep passes. He overthrew it and he was taken forever in the.
Pocket, too, like Lamar, should run with a ball like a full half second or full second before when he was taking off today. Cause you wait that extra time, then he gets caught from behind for like, a one yard gain, yeah.
It completely neutralized Lamar's ability, although he did have an awesome play where he threw and caught the ball at the same time. Maybe Bill pull in and was right about that, maybe he's a wide receiver, yes.
Uh, but yeah, it was an all-time play and he got caught from behind just barely. I think he probably would score a touchdown if he just stepped out of that one tackle, but that was awesome play. Yeah, the game if you're a.
Ravens fan That game had to have been like torture. Because it was constantly the Ravens after it settled down. And it was 14, seven. And it was like, Okay, the Ravens defense is starting to make some stops. They got. They sacked Patrick Holmes for the first time in these playoffs, which is crazy that he had gone two full games without being sacked. Uh, they started to make some stops. And then you have the Zay Flowers. Big play taunting penalty, which I we both agree taunting should not be a penalty in the NFL.
They're pros. If you want to do it in the college, that's fine, cause you want to just pretend, like, Oh yeah, they're amateur athletics, whatever the guys are putting their life on the line, they're playing a passionate game.
This is the.
Biggest game of their lives. You should be able to taunt, you should be allowed to taunt. Uh, there are a couple of. I think at at the point that it turns into a delay of game, probably flag it for delay game.
If it's that excessive, if it's just a taunt, you can do whatever you want. But if you step over the guy, if you step over him, he's allowed to hit you and.
You're nuts, yeah. Besides that, it's all fair, I just. It's like a passionate game. These guys are playing a million miles an hour.
They're, they're, you know, bodily harm and all these things. And and and you're, you're going to get upset, you're going to throw a flag. Because he stood over him, fuck that, let him taunt.
It's the AFC Championship game, yeah, Joe Burrow agreed.
He tweeted Let the boys taunt. Yeah, let him taunt. Let the boys taunt. taunting's fun.
And if you want to stop them from taunting, then stop them from catching the ball. 50 yards, someone.
Pointed out that if you let them taunt, you got to let them fight. I kind of okay with that, too. It's a little scrap. Yeah, hockey does it.
Yeah, but they did have, like the Ravens, just kept on. It was self-inflicted wound after self-inflicted wound. Whereas, like, even in the end of the first half, when Calvin Noy gets that penalty. Travis Kelsey was doing a masterful job of just goading them the entire day. And then you have the Zay Flowers taunt and the Zay Flowers fumble, and it's like they keep getting close and they can't cut the deficit.
And then the likely interception. It just was torture, it was torture for the Ravens because they. They had these moments where you thought that they were going to be back in the game and they just kept on falling short in these big moments. And it's all credit to the chief's defense and their game plan. Yeah, Mike.
Florist His head is spinning. He's so happy right now. Yeah, Mike, Florist was right. We own him.
Apology? Um, I have a question for you, big cat. Yeah, uh, it seems like Jason Kelsey, brother of Travis Kelsey, your brothers don't know if you knew that.
It seems like he's the biggest chief fan in the world right now. He is wearing Chiefs gear head to toe, loves the Chiefs for Travis. Um, would it irritate you if you were an Eagles fan seeing Jason Kelsey roots so hard for the Chiefs? I don't think so.
You don't think so if you were an eagle? I actually don't.
I think brother, like being brothers, kind of trumps everything he's. Some are saying I saw.
A couple of tweets. I don't think he's a bigger Chiefs fan than Max is an Eagles fan. I it would.
Not bother me, it would not bother me. Yeah, I think that's one of those things that if you're trying to find an issue with that, you you need to touch grass. As the kids say, I'm just saying, go find another hobby.
Interesting, Yeah, that would I. just. I'm being dead, dead honest. Like you got to root for your brother like you have to in that moment.
So I e. I mean, he has been at the Games, they had a big hug after the game. Travis Kelsey By the way, should, I don't know we. We should like, put out an investigation against him because he. He looked so washed for the second half of the season and now he looks incredible again. What happened?
Was he just rope-a-doping us? He was playing us? He was, I think he was playing.
The long game on it. I think the chiefs, the chiefs as a whole, might've been rope-a-doping us the entire season. Well, trying to get the people to say, Oh, the chiefs can't do it. This year, this team sucks. And then they have all the all the bulletin board material they could ever want.
Maybe the entire Chiefs, maybe Darius Toney was actually the best signing of the off season to tank. A few games make them lose, and in very embarrassing fashion. And now, all of a sudden, everybody doesn't take Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs offense seriously at all.
Darius Toney with an all-time, uh, idiot move of going on Instagram live. Being like, I'm not hurt, they're just they're keeping me out of the game. It's like, Dude, we all knew that the chiefs were basically being nice to you, saying that you're hurt. So you can save some face. Maybe go to another team next year. They're not playing you because you're a detriment to the team.
He was the last person to realize that was what was going on.
Maybe I don't think they can say that you're sitting out the game if you're injured, if you don't have an injury. But I also think that they're being nice. They said in the in the report, right? It was like, for, uh, for injury and also personal reasons, yeah.
The personal reason being like, you're not very good at football, yeah.
So I have something else I want to say about Patrick Mahomes. That was, they'll probably people be like, you're glazing him so hard. Patrick Mahomes deserves a ton of credit for, uh, how he's handled this season in moments that we've. He's been criticized publicly, whether it be complaining about the refs after the Packers game, complaining about the refs after the Bills game. He deserves a ton of credit because what Patrick Holmes never did this entire season is give any type of complaint publicly about his wide receivers.
And it's paying off now because he, basically, he, he, he stood in front of the bullets. For these guys to suck for the majority of the year and get their feet wet and get a Rishi rice. To a point where he's like an actually really good receiver that you can trust. And I feel like that's an underrated part of his leadership. Where he was complaining about everything else, but deliberately never saying like, my receivers just suck. Who would have blamed him if he had said that after all the like they went through this regular season? And I think that's a key piece of the Chiefs in these playoffs. And being able to play like they're about to win another Super Bowl. And his ability to keep these guys together and these like young guys, their confidence doesn't get shattered. Because the best player in the world is like, Yeah.
You guys suck. I liked Andy Reed's play call at the end of the game, too, when he was like, it was the ultimate. They'll never see this coming. Yeah, they hit MVs way down the field on that play.
Like, nobody thought that's the guy they're going to go to with that much time, like with that important of a play happening at that moment. It's like, no, they're going to throw it probably to Rice or to Kelsey, or they're going to try to give the ball to Pacheco somehow. But no, they went to the guy that probably hadn't. There were a lot of times this season where my Homes, you're right, could have, just like, destroyed the ego of his guys, and maybe he did behind the scenes.
I don't know, but definitely, but definitely not in the press when he didn't.
Even look like he was thinking that way. He just would blame the we all we all criticize him because he looked like a baby. Sometimes complaining about the refs and all this stuff, it's like, I'm thinking back to him like that was probably a little bit deliberate, where it's like he's going to find anything but his receivers to blame. So yeah.
And MVS is a perfect example. Like MVS gets a lot of shit, he's. He obviously has problems catching the ball, which is his job. MBS also gets asked to catch a lot of the hard, the difficult catches, cause he's so fast over the shoulder ones.
Right, right, so there's a little bit of like, he's not, he's not catching, you know, five yard slants where it's easier to catch. But yeah, that that's a guy who his confidence could have waned. And then, in the big moment, Patrick Mahomes trusts to throw him a perfect ball to seal the game and go back to the Superbowl, yeah.
If you're a ravens.
Fan you're probably pretty upset. Because it seemed like this was the healthiest that the Ravens could possibly be. Yeah, over the last, like three seasons, I think today was probably the Ravens at their healthiest that they've been. Maybe like week one of the 2021 season.
And Kyle Hamilton was awesome, so good, so so good. Zay Flowers was awesome. Obviously he fumbled, but he was their offense for a while there.
And then he cut his hand on the bench, yeah, in frustration. And I don't know, like Lamar, obviously, the easy hot take thing to say is like, Lamar, can't, you know? He choked again in the playoffs. And it does suck because that is what we've. That's all we've seen. We have not seen him step his game up and get to that next level.
This was the moment to get to the next level and he did not. It was just weird watching the Ravens, especially in the first half. It felt like they came out being like, we're going to win no matter what. And they got punched in the mouth and then they were just chasing it for the rest.
Of the game. Lamar has these games in the playoffs, though, like this was not the same Lamar that we've seen for the entire season. Where he has the lowest offensive output, the lowest number of points scored, right where he, just like, turns into a different player.
That happens once every playoffs with him. It sucks, it sucks. It sucks if you're a Ravens fan. sucks if you're a player on the Ravens.
Sucks if you're Lamar, too, because now, now the narrative is fully there. Did, I did.
And I mentioned this to you in private, but I would like to make it in public. Was, and everyone could chime in. Here, was watching this game on a bigger level. Obviously, these two guys, Mahomes and Lamar, Lamar's about to be the MVP again. Like he's an incredible quarterback. I'm not going to diminish that. But was it just watching the Justin Fields versus Caleb Williams debate play out in real time? Like one guy can make all the passes?
One guy can, he's a, he's a good passer. But when the things get tight, windows get tight, moments get tight. The passes aren't exactly precise like they have been. Maybe earlier in the season, yeah.
I can see where you're coming.
Out with that, the first half from a Holmes was just electrifying. Yeah, the ball wasn't touching the ground, I think.
When you can pretend his first 10 were completion, he was out of control, and then I think the 11th one might've been a drop. Yeah, so yeah, he was, he was very, very good. I don't I think that Justin is different from Lamar, though.
No, I know Lamar's way better.
I'm saying that I'm not, there's no debate, I'm just saying, like, when the when the big moments happen, you have to have a guy who you trust. Passing the ball, yeah, and Lamar I, I thought I trust pass the ball. But there was moments today where I was like, that likely interception was so bad again. He was missing some short throws early. And you could call. If you want to say, the play calling was so bad that he was never had a chance.
I actually will buy it, cause it was so baffling to watch what the Ravens were doing offensively. But yeah, I just it it, it will. It will follow him. Cause this is another moment where it's like, we need Lamar to make these big.
Time throws and they just weren't there and the deep balls to, the deep balls were problems, right? so the deep balls to. He had a couple to Odell.
It was a very funny one where Odell put his hand up like Randy Moss. When he got two steps on the cornerback and then the second, the hand went up, he slowed down so much, the cornerback was just all over him. Ball was still overthrown by like three, four yards through a couple of those to Beckham, and then there were a couple of deep ones.
I want to say that there were two Aguilar maybe that were overthrown that same way. But yeah, when he's just if he gets a good pocket and everything's on time, he's a great passer. If he has to move around a little bit. And he's trying to decide whether or not he's going to take off and run, or whether or not he's going to stay in the pocket and throw. That's when he doesn't have that exact touch that you want, right? And I, maybe it's maturity that I'm trying.
To find a way to not like just knee jerk winners and losers. That guy stinks, that guy's good, cause I still think Lamar's a great, great core.
He's a franchise quarterback, he's top five quarterback, but this was a disappointing game. No other way you can look at it, yeah.
Speaking of which, I just want to throw no, you know what? I'll do that at the end of the show, I'll do. I have a stat at the end of the show. I'll do so that we'll just keep it, we'll keep to the end of the show.
At the very end of the show, um, in terms of the Chiefs and going back to the Super Bowl, I know people are very tired of the Chiefs. This is what, this is the next step in greatness that the whole country starts to hate you. They were, they had that, uh, I think. Meme the memes posted the AFC Championship game from 2019, where it was like, who's rooting for the Chiefs and who's rooting for the patriots?
And it was just New England rooting for the patriots and the entire country rooting for the Chiefs. And then it was this year who's rooting for the Ravens, who's rooting for the Chiefs? It was just Kansas City and Missouri rooting for the Chiefs.
In the entire country, rooting for the rain. Was that one of those maps? was that a Jeff T. Low map?
It feels right like everyone was rooting against the chiefs. That's the next step in greatness, where the whole world happened to the warriors. Like, it's just this is what, this is what you get when you're this great all the time.
The the 31 other teams do not want you to succeed anymore.
Yeah, this is it's them against the world, quite literally. Yeah, I do agree with that. The chiefs, like, say what you want about them.
Um, but I think they're, they're more fun than most dynasties like this, because it's hard to watch. And Steph Curry is the same way. I would equate them to being like, you can. You can watch those two teams play and be like, Holy shit, it's amazing. I love watching what this guy does.
Yeah, there's some dynasties where you watch players and you're like, I'm just sick of this shit. Yeah, I'm completely over it. But my homes is good for like one or two plays, a game that you'll never see.
Yeah, and you have to, like, appreciate that greatness as it's happening. So I think people can, like, be like, Nah, I'm sick of the chiefs. But also, holy shit, this is fun, yeah.
Hank, Do you? I mean, you see it? Yeah, I'm sick of them. I don't agree with that. Yeah, I root against them as hard as I can.
Uh, not fun to watch. I mean, My homes is great. He played great. With that being said, they didn't play great in the second half. Lamar Jackson was just nowhere.
To be found. Yeah, I mean, that's kind of how the chiefs have been, though, this year, where they're, I mean, it's I think the stat is something crazy. Like 16 and two to the second half under, like they just their offense kind of goes into whatever needs to be done.
Not anymore, and their defense starts to shut teams down. Like Chris Jones, even, uh, Nate Tice, who does a great job, he does a podcast with Robert Mays. He had a stat where Chris Jones. Not that he's like taking plays off, but his stats first half to second half are like, insanely different because he's just kind of feeling out the game.
And then in the second half, he's like, I'm going to be the closer.
I'm going to shut everyone down. That's the Vince Young first half. Chill out and have, go the fuck.
Off, Yeah, so like there is something about how the Chiefs have have, that's kind of how their season has gone. Where, like when they're, when they win games, it's like punch them in the mouth, get up big and then not hold on. But like it, the game slows they, they slow down the game, you know, and and their defense shows up. It sucks to watch because they just suffocate you.
Is it? Is it good for Tom Brady fans such as yourself? Hank that all this greatness from Mahomes is shining a greater light on how good Tom Brady was? Oh, good point, yeah. I mean, they keep showing. I wouldn't have read those amazing stats from Tom Brady if Patrick Mahomes wasn't doing this.
Back to back, Brady was two, again two and O against him in the playoff career. Which is, you can always hang your head on that, but it feels like the the magic has has worn out. The Chiefs are going to blow blow past the four diners in the Super Bowl.
Ooh, early prediction. Yeah. They just find a way, they find a way, and they have to completely change. Like, think about the Chiefs winning their Super Bowl.
The last time they played the Niners, that defense wasn't great and that offense was explosive. Now, their offense can still be explosive at times because it's mahomes, but their defense is like carrying a huge load.
They were down going into the fourth right against those Niners teams the Garoppolo overthrow in the fourth quarter.
And they ended up winning by 11.
Yeah.
Yeah, and the the 49ers, it feels like they should have lost both of their playoff games. The Chiefs went into Buffalo, beat Buffalo, went into Baltimore, beat Baltimore.
Yeah, it wasn't pretty, but it was like, Yeah, they went in in two tough places to play and beat teams. They were underdogs in both games and that's just Patrick Mahomes as an underdog, he's an underdog again in the Super Bowl.
It's fucking insane. I'm going to do a game of the year on the Chiefs. San Francisco is up 20 to 10 with just more than six minutes left in the Super Bowl.
Yeah, that was their 21 points.
Yeah, their defense wasn't great, and Patrick Mahomes offense and Tyreek Hill and all that, but it this also goes back. I mean, again, we've, we've said it a million times, but the Tyreek Hill not. Signing him to a long-term deal turns out to be genius. Because they have remade their defense.
They're like, Legarrius Sneed is one of the best cornerbacks in the league, like they, they're young everywhere, and that's just incredible roster management like the Patriots used to do where they were.
Just they'd have to just have a whole new roster of guys around Tom Brady, and you know, if you have Tom Brady, you're going to win.
Also, Mahomes is playing on a Sweetheart Hometown deal, too. Yeah, yeah, remember, like the day after he signed the deal, people were like, Well, uh, that he's already underpaid, yeah.
Basically.
Well, he's one of those athletes, like it's him and LeBron. Where it's like, if it was free market, they'd get paid a billion dollars.
Yeah, yeah, truly yeah, if there was no such thing as a salary.
Yeah, right, like Jerry Jones.
What is he worth to your franchise? A billion dollars?
Jerry Jones would give away his entire family for Patrick Mahomes if he could. Oh, easily, easily.
Easily. Um, so Andy Reid also going for potentially in the GoAt conversation again. We've had this debate, we said the debate was whether there would be a debate, um, which I think we're going to be right about that. He still has a long way to go to get to Bill Belichick. But if he wins back-to-back Superbowls, which hasn't been done since Bill Belichick, three and whatever. However many years this has been. And going to four, and he's gone to two, he's gone to Superbowl with two different franchises.
Pretty, pretty crazy.
Really crazy, yeah, so I think you're right. I think if he does do this, then we'll be, we'll talk about it, we won't say that. He's. Obviously he has a long way to go to get there, but he also had, like, a pretty good, successful run in Philly for a long time.
Yeah, just couldn't get to the Superbowl.
Um, last thing we're going to get just completely drowned in. Taylor Swift talk, you know that.
Yeah, I mean, it's already happened, it's already happened.
You see, Andy Reid did point to her.
I've drowned. So in the post game, they pointed at each other, They looked to share a little bit of a moment. There I saw a picture that was going around.
I don't know if it's real or not.
Yeah, she's suing people. How many fingers did he have? He had six.
That I could see.
In the point, he was pointing all six fingers at her.
Yeah, so I. It seems like sparks were flying in that post game interaction there. Also, if you watch the video of of Jason and Travis saying What's up to each other? dapping each other up, um, Taylor sneaks around. She lets them have their moment, she falls into the background, walks around and makes a beeline towards Who.
Jeff Darlington.
Ooh, he had another viral tweet about it, he was the one who tweeted out the point.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Also, Tony Romo saw Taylor swift. That was fun, she complimented him.
Yeah, well, she's got bad taste.
Yeah, bad taste in men.
I have a take, I have a take. I think that the Superbowl should be announced by the best announcers that year, well, just like the game is played by the best teams that year. We're going to get Tony Romo, and we're going to get Jim Nance, and Tony Romo is going to annoy the fuck out of America.
It should be Greg Olson and Jim Nance.
Well, good thing we have an alternate option this year, Nickelodeon.
Oh, okay, yeah.
I have a take, and this is, I'll say, a friend of the show told me this. He does not. He has no inside information, but I want to also protect his identity. He has a theory that this might be Jim Nance's last football game.
Oh, really.
Yeah, he did. He did retire from March madness this past year.
He's going to do the masters.
He's going to do golf, but my I started thinking about it. We've had a trade or we've had potential trades in broadcasters before. I think wasn't there a deal like Al Michaels?
Al Michaels was traded for the rights to Oswaldo, the Rabbit.
Yeah, that's right, all right. So what, why doesn't CBS if they lose Jim Nance? Because then you're going to get we're going to get just stuck with Tony Romo and Tom Brady might be coming into the mix. FoX Why didn't CBS trade for Greg Olson?
Yeah.
That's Greg Olson is so good, and I know he's a friend of ours, but he's so good. He's like, just trade for Kevin Burkhart and Greg Olson, have Tom Brady do it with Jim Gray, Tony Romo. Just go play golf.
He is actually, he doesn't really call games.
I know Jake, it was a joke. He is, that's all he does, is he does podcasts with Jim Gray, that's it.
Tom Brady only does Jim Gray.
So I think we said this last year. But Greg Olson did so good in the Superbowl that he at least gives Fox something to think about. Because they've got what. How many millions invest in Tom Brady on? Like a futures contract? Whenever Tom decides to show up, right? You could maybe even trade Tom the rights to Tom Brady, yeah, CBS.
10 for 375.
Get Greg Olson swap with Tony Romo Tony Romo also had an all-time no-no in the broadcast booth. When he's like, And that's the game. And what was it like? Five minutes left?
And I think it was after the likely interceptions, like, you don't do that.
That's the game, almost yeah, almost yeah.
Pretty much, yeah, no. What they should do? I think, I think they should trade Romo for the rights to Tom Brady to CBS Keep Greg Olson on Fox.
And Jim Nance would probably stay if he got to call games with Tom Brady.
If he got to work with Brady, yeah, and then yeah, then Romo gets to go do whatever. Go vacation. We solved it all, yeah.
Perfect, yeah, chiefs back in the Superbowl and they're underdogs. I'm going to make it a game of the year.
Are you going to do it, hank?
Yeah, I already did.
Yeah, it feels like the chiefs like they're inevitable. Patrick Holmes is inevitable. I'm sick of just getting burned. I have to reassess my my, my uh strategy with futures.
And maybe I should introduce the word hedging into my life. Cause this was now four great values that I lost in, uh, 13 months, all to Patrick. But it's good value, that's the thing, it's great value. It was a good bet.
Well, people are like, Oh, you're such an idiot for betting the ravens like dude, I bet him in August and 18 to one. You would love to have an 18 to one ticket going to the Championship game as a four and a half point favorite. The part that I fail at is the hedging.
Yeah, I still haven't figured out which way I'm going to bet during the Superbowl. I, you're right, you're right. He's inevitable.
But now I feel like everybody is saying, Patrick Mahomes is inevitable. Well, he's been inevitable for a while now, though. Yeah, but everyone's realizing it. I don't know.
I, I'm going to stand by, but I've realized comparisons, it's like they said that too. And he always won. Yeah, I mean, I, I buy, I'm going to run the numbers.
I'm going to crunch them and I'm going to trust, I'm going to trust the data.
Still, going to be a lot of people who bet on the Niners. I said on Friday, it was like, if I didn't have the Ravens future, I'd bet on the Chiefs in this game. Cause it's just that's just what he does. So I didn't even it. I saw it coming. I probably could have done something, but I'm too stupid to do something.
But I did see it. You were pot committed at that point, right? Exactly. It's like, I, you know, it's fun to have something that you ride for an extended period of time to to hedge out of that.
Come on, but I should probably reassess this situation. The situation is fluid. Uh, what do you say, Jake? I enjoy watching this run of greatness.
I know a lot of people are sick of it. But like, you're going to look back one day and be like, Damn, I got to watch my homes and Kelsey do this year after year, after year. And it's like, as a neutral party, I'm like, This is cool, Hank, I want Hank's thoughts right away. I'm sick of it. Yeah, I know you are.
I discuss you with Jake, Yeah, and it's going to discuss.
A lot of people, I like watching it. As a fan of an AFC team, that's especially disgusting, like a team that has title aspirations. That maybe gets one of the homes. Now that they're weapons in the past, it's like, all right, this is cool.
Um, yeah, as a fan of an NFC team that hasn't been to a Super Bowl in what 34 years, 33 years, I'm? I'm okay with watching greatness at this level. But if I was a fan of an AFC team, I would hate him. Oh, I would hate him. If I lost him in a Super Bowl as an NFC team, I would hate him, yes.
Oh, I'd hate his guts so bad.
But again, I don't live and die by my fandom. You like to watch the story, exactly right. This is a great story for the history of football.
It would have been great if Lamar had won a Super Bowl, too. It would have been a great story for the history of my life. Or the Bills, or the Bills, or the Lions, or the Dolphins, or the Dolphins, or the Steelers, or the Browns. You could twist it in any, any way. So the point is what you're saying is dumb, because literally anyone who gets to the Super Bowl, there's a story.
Yes, but these types of stories were playing in the Super Bowl this year. It would be an incredible story. Would it? Not? It would.
But the Texans were the longer version of the Steelers. The only story that probably would have sucked. Yeah, that's it. Like every other AFC team, there would have been at least a cool story.
Yeah, with the Steelers.
I don't know what the story would have been, it would have just been like Tomlin, like average team, overachieves their way to greatness. All you all you see, students out there have something to.
Hope for Yeah, this is why you never get divorced. Yeah, just stick it out.
Stay with it.
You're fine, stay with it. Eventually, you'll have one night of great sex. Yeah, have another kid.
Another quarterback Yeah, you just stick, save the franchise. Yes, uh, okay.
Uh, again, I mean, it was. It was just a masterclass by the Chiefs defense in my homes. First two drives were just so, I mean, they were. The ball didn't hit the ground. It was insane. It was crazy, yeah.
That that second drive, I know the first drive was great, cause he he completed every pass, that second drive, though, was. That was so like. That's what breaks your back if you're watching, if you're rooting for a team against the homes. Because it was four third downs that he picked up all himself. And just big play after big play after big play, you just know he's going to be there.
And when he completed that pass, where he got hit in the face at that point, I thought it was over. It was like, arm, when that, when that shit happens, then you know that there's something weird going on. It's going to be, it's going to be one of those games, yeah.
He got punched it.
Was bad. Uh, yeah, I, I, I'm not. I can't say that I'm rooting for the Chiefs, except I'm just going to bet on them because they are inevitable. Like, that's how I feel about the chiefs at this point. I don't. I would love for our good friend Kittle to win a Super Bowl. Um, but I'm going to emotionally set myself ready for a patch from homes to win it again.
And by doing that, I'm.
Just going to bet on them and we should go back and watch that. That Bucks Chief Super Bowl. How did they stop them? They? What's the magic? The Chiefs, the Chiefs offensive line was?
Completely decimated. That's how they stopped him. It was a home they had, like, I think they didn't have anyone, I think they literally had no off, and that was right.
That was the end of the like, big contracts, not on the offensive line, and they basically shifted and they've.
And the Chiefs offensive line has been awesome. They were so good today, especially considering that Thuny had a PEC tear. Yeah, like, what the fuck you? You're just able to put another guy and substitute for one already in the league and just not lose any steps whatsoever. But that was.
That box Super Bowl was the Chiefs had no offensive lineman left. And I, I actually weirdly watched back. I've been, I guess it's not weird, cause I like football a lot, but I've been watching back old Super Bowls like the The The Condensed Cut on YouTube.
And I watched that a few days ago and my homes had like no time. And was running for his life on every point.
They had.
Fans they had, uh, first responders in the stands. So we do. We need another pandemic to stop my homes? Yeah, the only thing that can stop them is a Covid year.
Well, if they beat the 49ers in the Super Bowl, watch out world, watch out world. Yeah, I don't like, I don't like that.
That's not great. What'd you guys think of that? A pregame kerfuffle, the what the kerfuffle?
Kerfuffle before the game Justin Tucker, Um, Travis Kelsey bullying a poor, helpless kicker. Yeah, is that the message that we want to send to people? Is that, like, that's cool now, that's what that's?
What you should do is pick the weakest, skinniest, best singer on the field and then just treat them like dirt. Um, it was awesome, it was good, I liked it because everything about this was leading to a big game. It was like these two teams don't like each other.
There was a.
There was another one, uh, it was like one Raven verse, like Six chiefs before the game kicked off. I want that, I want the anger to be just boiling over right before kickoff. I want these two teams.
To hate each other, right? I want them to like despise each other, right. I want them to try to to like bring knives on the field.
I want it to be like the last boy scout. Yeah, I want as much like, uh, a possibility for violence to happen at any given second. I got one last question for us.
Before we go to the NFC Championship game, will you trust Lamar next year when they're in the?
Playoffs, Uh, probably, cause I'm dumb and I've got the attention span of a goldfish. So if Lamar has another MVP season, I'll probably be like, you know what, the playoffs are a small sample size.
You have to look at the odds, the odds are Lamar is going to be good, cause I love.
I love watching Lamar play football and he's so much fun and he has been so good. But this one hurts if you're, if you're standing on the Lamar. Like, you know, he's up there in terms of passers with all these other guys. Cause it just it didn't look, it didn't look like Joe Burrow or Patrick Mahomes, or Josh Allen has looked at times in like these big games he can have.
These types of games, though, as long as he, he runs with the ball. And he was like a half second, like I said, he was a half second late, leaving the pocket for almost the entire game. So if he, if he has these bad games, it's okay, as long as he's still breaking off like 15 20 yard runs left and right.
That's fine, that's actually a trade off most people would make. To have a guy that throws like a bad, boneheaded interception, but at the same time ends up with like, 90 yards rushing in a touchdown. All right, yeah.
All right, I'm going to trust him. You can talk yourself back.
Into Lamar Jacks. Imagine if if Dak had thrown that pick, it would have been great, that would have been incredible. There were three guys right there, three guys.
Three dudes. And it was all you needed was you needed a field goal, you had to have a field goal in that. In that situation, yeah.
He's like, Fuck it, I'm going to throw him to Isaiah, likely covered by three guys.
For blame I'm giving, I'm giving 70 of the blame to Lamar and then 30 to Todd Munkin.
Yeah, Todd Munkin deserves a lot of blame. Yeah, he got his, he got his lunch ate by spags and by his own doing his own stupidity. It did just feel like the Ravens thought they were going to win that game and they, they didn't realize that it was a game until the second half.
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And what will be one of the most horrific losses?
Yeah, that was a horrific, horrific loss of your Lions fans. Bad way to lose a football game, you.
Had C.D. Deuce waving goodbye to the Niners fans in the first half, First half was all Lions the.
First half looked like the Niners were one of the worst teams in the league. The play calling was.
Awesome from the Lions. The second half things started to get tight. There were a lot of, there was some fluky stuff that happened, some weird shit going on.
Deep pass to, Uh, Brandon Iuke and it bounced off Kindle Vinders helmet. Yeah, that was bad, and then Iuke in the pre. He said in the post game that before the game, a ladybug landed on his shoe. And he knew he was going to have a lucky day. That was pretty fucking lucky, that was ladybug luck.
That was lucky that.
Was like, the um, that, uh, the past, the the in the Seahawks Patriots Superbowl where like bounced around on the defender. Yeah, picked it up, um, and then who was it, the tight end?
Right on, the Seahawks caught that one. Yeah, yeah.
We don't talk about that that much because of what happened next, but it was similar, it was very similar, it was wild. Um, it looked like the the Lions could run the ball at will against the Niners. It was like three yards every time.
Not three yards, rushing three yards, the offensive line would displace the defense.
We're getting shoved around, shoved around, and we've said that the the 49ers have a hard time playing from behind on defense, which I still think is kind of true. But then some weird shit happened. The second half, they had a great forced fumble against Gibbs, so you can't take that away from the Niners defense.
They forced that fumble. Oh yeah, that wasn't a forced fumble, the one.
That No. The one they reached in, are you talking about the one where they? Where he went the wrong way on Gibbs and the handoff was, like, all disjointed. They reached in, they grabbed the.
Ball, yeah, but it was a disjointed handoff, it was disjointed, but they they still forced to fumble. Um, and then the, uh, the fourth down play calls we should talk about.
That's.
What everyone's going to want to talk about, by the way. The Detroit Free Press, Uh, tweeted Final, you know what happened? Yep, that's as sad as it gets. So the fourth down play calls there were multiple. Uh, we actually. People will focus on the two in the second half. I think you actually have to talk a little bit about the first one in the first half.
At the end of the first half, with 10 seconds left, Dan Campbell kicks a field goal and that was a chip shot field goal. It was like they were on, like the five yard line. That was a little confusing, though, because Dan Campbell has been the king of aggression, the king of balls to the wall. And that was like, Okay, I, I'm a big believer in. If you want to go aggressive, stay aggressive.
If you want to be, you know, you know, punt it and play defense, do that, that's fine, just don't go wishy-washy. That's what killed Brandon Staley. When you start to just second guess and and and do things differently. In situations like Dan Campbell, I thought he was going to be aggressive there.
He explained it that it was just a little bit too far for what they wanted to do. Um, fine, the one. In the third quarter, they're up 14, they're on the 30 yard line, 28 yard line. I believe I think it was 28 yard line.
I think it would have been a 45 yard field goal, it would have been a 45 yard field goal. Um, and they went for it, and that's the.
One that people are very upset about. I don't mind that one. Yeah, I don't mind. I don't mind that at all, because because the the play call worked.
They probably should have run the ball there, that probably would have been easier to do, but Josh Reynolds, he just dropped the ball right. It was. It was a play that worked. And at the time it felt like you get that first down and you step on their throats and they're done right.
Right, and yeah, you can send out your kicker to try a 45 yard field goal. He's not the greatest kicker in the world. They don't trust them. You're not guaranteed to make three points with that.
Right, I don't mind that play call whatsoever. It was a good play call. It was a good call to go for it. He just dropped it.
So the big and we've had this debate a lot of like analytics verse, you know, I don't even think this is analytical. I think it's just Dan Campbell is very aggressive and he's been aggressive all year. The whole reason the Lions are in this spot is because of his aggression, that's how he coaches the team.
That's how he's built the team. Like, they just go for your throat. So I agree with you. I don't hate that call because I I really think people are just forgetting the fact they do not like or trust their kicker. I think they brought Badgley back, like a few weeks ago.
He's tried two kicks over 40 yards, 77. I. I kind of liked the fact that. And Dan Campbell knows in the back of his head, our defense isn't the best. We have to keep scoring seven, not three. I agree with you and Josh Reynolds. The ball hit his.
Hands, you can touch it, you can catch it. People are mad at at Dan Campbell, cause he's he's always the guy, he's the meme of the giant balls in the wheelbarrow.
This time his balls were so big, his receivers couldn't catch him. Yeah, and it was, I think, the right call, it was the right play call. It was a bad execution from Josh Reynolds, who he had some bad drops.
He had that third and 10 drop, that was really bad. The UM, the other one, so the other one is the other one.
Yeah, they were, they were, uh, not a similar situation. Because then by the time they we got to the other one, it was 27 24 uh, niners, so the first one happened, it was 24 10 Lions. So they were trying to basically be like, if we can go up 21, like, we'll put this game away, people are going to say, you go up three scores.
I get it, I, I, you can convince me kind of either way on that one. I like it just because that's how Dan Campbell's coach and he's being consistent about it. The other one was Niners are up three and you're on fourth.
And I think it was fourth and three this time, and it was on the 30 that one I feel like, maybe.
You should have kicked, yeah, and I don't know what the numbers say. If you get into the math, we're not math, guys. I don't know, but it feels like it's very important to tie the game, right?
There, I just, Yeah, because what happened is. The Niners then went and and scored a touchdown. It became a 10 point game with four minutes left and it's like, game's over. Everything fell apart.
After that IU touchdown, everything, uh, they had that one bomb from Jack Fox, I think. He punted the ball like 75 yards in the air and it bounced straight up at the one yard line. Then the guy catches it and steps on the goal line, resulting in a touchback. It felt like all the small stuff was falling apart for the lines at that point.
And the game kind of got out of control for them.
And here's, um, here's. I don't know how these are, uh, this. These numbers are crunched, I'll just say them, uh. Ben Solak had it expected points lost for Detroit. Gibbs fumble minus five and a half, IU reception off Vildor's face mask minus 3.3..
Reynolds fourth down drop minus 3.
2.
Incomplete to St. Brown on fourth and three minus 2.6, so the Gibbs fumble and the IU reception cost them more than the fourth down failed fourth down. Like, that's. I know that the game can be we. We do this thing because we we watching.
The easiest thing to do is criticize the coach and I get it. People are gonna be like, Dan Cable's an idiot. Because there's one other decision I want to get to. That was very mind numbing, but the biggest plays of this game were those two, it was the fumble and the IU reception.
Those were the biggest swings in.
In win probability, yeah, but this is going to seem like a big like knock. Against being aggressive on fourth down, right? I don't even think the calls were that aggressive on fourth down.
There, you're only calling them aggressive because they didn't work. If they had worked, it would be just another. Dan Campbell. Fourth down play, call, correct and Reynolds.
If Reynolds catches that, the Lions probably win the game, which he should have as somebody who.
Had bet on Josh Reynolds to catch more than one and a half balls, right? I know, for a fact, that Josh Reynolds should have caught at least two balls that game. So, the fourth down decision bot.
We're looking at right now. It was a go for it because it added plus two win probability. Now. I honestly don't like I. People get mad about the numbers. And I understand it because you can't play football on a spreadsheet, but I was just such a thing as as a game flow and.
And understanding the situation and who you're playing against, but that's my whole point, that.
That's why I didn't hate him going for it on fourth and two the first time. Because he, he knows his team and he's been this guy the entire season. And this is what got them there and their defense is not great. Like you, you could see that there was going to be some cracks forming in the second half. Go, get, go.
Try to, like, go up 21 and put the niners away.
Yeah, so you can criticize his decision-making, for sure. But as far as having Dan Campbell as your head coach? Like, do you think the lines would be better off if they did not have Dan Campbell as head coach? Right? Like, no chance.
They're in the NFC Championship game, they have.
Not been in the NFC Championship game in 30 plus years, yeah, and credit to the Niners too.
Because the Niners, they were able to kind of adjust and respond. Brock Purdy played like shit in the first half, second half, he turned into that. The ESPN article What if Michael?
Vick were white. Yeah, that was, I was running everywhere. The last one I wanted to say about Dan Campbell. The one thing that did drive me nuts is that timeout that he used at the end.
Of the game and to run the ball, run third down and then call a timeout, that's not hindsight either. Like, we're watching that, we were saying it and we're like, What the fuck are you doing now?
You have to recover an onside kick, which you can't do, and this is kind of an aside. This has nothing to do with this game. They need to change the onside, it's impossible.
You used to be able to recover an onside kick once every what? 10? It was like 10 11 of the time, now nobody does. Now. You got to hope for, like the biggest fuck up ever to happen, to have a chance at it.
They need to change the rule, cause I liked the onside kick, but I don't like how it's set up right now. No, it's impossible, they've made it impossible.
Let them do the 10 yard run up, that was a sick play. Change it like the XFL and be like.
You have to convert a fourth and 20.
Yeah, that'd be fine, too. I'd like the team to have a chance. Whoever's trailing and mounting a comeback.
I'd like for them to be in the game at the end, but now, once they burned that timeout, it was so bad. It was like the game's over. That was so bad. Todd Bowles would have just packed his shit and gone home then.
Yeah, yeah, right, he would have.
Just shook his hand and been like, I'm not going to use these timeouts. I I thought they were going to kick the field goal there, that's why they ran, so they were going to rush out the the the field goal unit. Kick the field goal. Go down seven. That was baffling to me.
Why they would run and then have to use a timeout? That one you can run on fourth down. It did feel like Dan Campbell as the game progressed. One thing you could you could criticize him for, and I'll buy. This is like it did feel like, and I know this is a gambler myself. Like he was kind of pushing a little bit where he's like, I'm going to keep pushing.
I'm going to keep pushing. Someone said that Dan Campbell would hit on 18 and blackjack like it did. Feel like he was doing that where he's like, just keep pushing, keep pushing, and that that was where I was like.
What's going on in his brain right now? Yeah, he doubles down every single time, every hand, and then he doubles his bet on the next hand, yeah.
Again, I don't have a problem with going forward on the first fourth down, I don't have a problem going for it on the second. Although I probably would have rather kicked that, I don't. I just don't feel strongly enough to say, like, you have to kick that, I don't mind it.
It was a it was a weird play call, but then also at the end of the half, kicking a field goal. Going along with that, the rest of.
Your strategy for consistency doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Like, go for it all three times, kick the field goal all three times. I kind of liked the like. They were all very similar situations where it's like you have two or three yards to gain, um, and that's. That was brutal for the lines, because it really did feel like everything fell apart in those. I know that they'll say momentum, but like, momentum had nothing to do with a ball thrown 50 yards bouncing off a guy's face mask into Brandon.
I use hand. Yeah, that wasn't momentum, that was an insane, crazy play that happened. That was the Lady Bug effect.
Yeah, and so the yeah. The Niners brock. Purdy was very good in the second half. Um, Christopher Caffrey continues to be just insane, scores no matter, I mean, his prices to score insane, and he just keeps scoring. Um, and yeah, I, I like that first half. I won't get out of my mind, though, with the Niners going into the Superbowl where it's like, they just, they just got run on so hardcore.
They were just so out of place in every play and they did make good adjustments and they they did dial up some stuff. In the second half that, like you saw, Jared was a little more rushed, uh, but it was. It was crazy to watch the Niners like this is now, two games in a row, like Hank said, like they barely won these, both these games, they get credit for winning them. But it's also like, that's not.
Sustainable? They also beat the cousins curse. Until this year, no, no team that had lost to had ever been to a Superbowl. Oh, wow.
So yeah, monkey off the back cow. Shanahan apparently can come from behind in the fourth quarter. So that's that's another thing that they've gotten off there. Uh, but yeah, Brock Purdy not good in the first half, second half, different guy. If Brock Purdy was taken with like a top 10 pick, I'm not even saying like number one. Overall. If it was a first round draft pick, I think we'd be like, Purdy is good, showing signs of of living up to his draft.
Right, I don't think that we'd shit on him all the time. There was a very funny moment on the cave when he dropped back and, uh, Aaron Foster's watching with us. He does not like Brock Purdy. He watched him drop back and he goes. He reminds me a lot of T.J. Yates.
And then, as the ball leaves his hand, he threw a pick, intercepted, like, right away. But I think that if he was like, if he had that pedigree, if he was a first round pick, we'd be like, Purdy's good, and I think he's probably.
On track to be a franchise quarterback? It is crazy, though. So, by the way, they were tied going into the fourth quarter. So Kyle Shanahan doesn't get an extra win on his on the one in 31, yeah.
On the one in 31, he doesn't get an extra one. They were tied in the going into the fourth.
Quarter Well, he's one in 31 when not winning, not leading the game. No, it's one in 31 when.
Uh, down by five or more, going Okay, got it, yeah, um it. It is crazy just how much everything swings in these games.
In terms of Dan Campbell, if they win this game, they go to the Superbowl. He's, even if they lose the Superbowl, like the they're. The last franchise that's played in every year, has not been in the Superbowl.
Like, he's statue, even if they lose, probably statue, and if they win that game, if the Niners lose that game. Like it's Kirk Cousins. The quarterback next year, he still might be, he still might be, but like, it's just nuts. How much the swing is with how you feel about these, these teams, and like their future, he still might be you. You might be right, yeah.
So let's talk about this.
Matchup compared to the 2020 matchup. Because I think, I don't know. I've seen a lot of people saying, like, we're going to do this thing again. The Niners are a much different team. They've got. They don't have Jimmy Garoppolo, they've got Brock Purdy, who I think we can all agree is an upgrade right over. JIMmY G Oh, would you rather right now have Jimmy G starting?
Well, Jimmy G is older.
And, like, hurt every year. Yeah, I'd take Purdy, I think they're very similar, I would take Purdy.
Um, they did not have Christian McCaffrey, right in 2020.
So that's where I think big difference.
Jimmy On this team, like from 2020, I I think it'd be very similar, but yeah, it's a, it's a.
It's a big difference, yeah, but I'm just saying like, this 49ers is better offensively, yeah.
No, they have a ton more. Like Brandon Iuka has come on. Yeah, Christian McCaffrey makes all the worlds different. Debo is still Debo.
Yeah, yeah, it was still debo. Um, it also a fun stat. Uh, this, hold on, let me find the tweet, here we go.
Brock Purdy would be the second seventh round draft pick in the last 25 years to be a Superbowl starter at QB. The Other guy.
This guy, Tom Brady, it's crazy. Whoa. There was another stat. I forget who guys didn't get it.
Tom Brady was actually a sixth round draft pick. Deleted this. Wait, read the tweet again. Uh, Brock. Purdy would be the second seventh round draft pick in the last 25 years to be a Superbowl starter at QB. The other guy, this guy, Tom Brady, it was Tom Brady as a little kid in a San Francisco 49ers jersey.
He had this loaded for a very long time. Yeah, that's wild, he was picked.
199th overall, right? Yes, he deleted that. Yeah, uh, we're on your ass.
I am, I'm very excited for the Superbowl, I really am, I am, too. I think it's a Superbowl.
Superbowl How could you not be excited? Also, I mean, the big game. It really makes you go back and think, like, if the Niners had had Brock Purdy last year in the NFC Championship game, how much different would?
This be a rematch. Um, well, I actually have a funny tweet about that. This game really makes you wonder how much more the Eagles would have won by last year. If Purdy never got hurt, that was from Philly Maze. Oh, when was that?
Um, that was around 730.
So it was probably.
At halftime, maybe at halftime, halftime. Yeah, yeah.
So it made you, it made you wonder, after wondering on it for a little bit, what did you come up with? Eagles still win that game, for sure. Okay, yeah. Oh, also, um, all the listeners out there. Max has agreed to try to get Taylor Swift.
On the podcast for SuperBowl Week, I have sources that say that she's not going to be be in Vegas when we're in Vegas. Well, she's going to be at our concert tour. We could, we could go to Japan if you want, yeah.
You could book it, we'll go, I would go to Japan.
For that interview, if you guys want to go to Japan, you know what we usually just do in-person.
Interviews I'll do zoom. Yeah, I'll do zoom, too, I'll zoom with Taylor.
I'll do Zoom, or if she wants us in her box, we will go in inside of her box.
All right, all right, perfect. You have the connection with Jason, he'll be in the box.
Do we have a connection with Jason? I mean, maybe we're both podcasters, we match roots. For him, we would be friends, for sure.
Yeah, we would, you actually would be friends. We've hung out with him once. No, if I hung out with him, we would be friends for sure. So I guess that is a connection.
Yeah, I think he'd probably.
Listen to that. If that was your pitch like, Hey, Jason, you don't know me, but we would be like, Yeah, best friends, look at me.
Look at you, he'd probably be like, Yeah, you're.
This guy's probably right. I would just read the always sunny Chase Hutley to him. It's like, Jason. Like, if I was, you know, a couple inches taller and maybe a little bit stronger, like I could have, I could have been. Your life, probably. What do you think? The odds are that?
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So it's not zero, so you're saying there's a chance?
No, because, like, there could be like a.
If everybody else.
Nuclear warfare? And like, everyone dies and it's just us, and we're like, you want to do our pod?
Yeah, no one's coming to your show, no one's buying any tickets.
Travis can put in a word he's been on. Jake. I don't think you understand how any of this works. You think Travis is going to tell her to No, but that's the point. Oh yeah, no, I actually don't think that's the point. Oh one, like I said, the point, oh one is like nuclear warfare.
Everyone dies except us, and we're like, Hey, we have to send out help to the aliens, want to record a message with us, and we'll call it a podcast.
And then she'd probably be like, Have the aliens on? I think, like, I'd rather die. The zero point, zero, zero, zero, zero, zero. One percent is the exact same percentage of the likelihood that Travis has not heard any of the clips from us talking about, yeah.
I do like Jake, that you think that like if we've had someone on there like our boys forever.
Yeah, you always say, that's the goal. Friend of the show? Yeah, it is.
It, I'd say it doesn't work for a lot of, a lot of the guests. Maybe Travis, I don't think, trap if we saw Travis on the street.
I don't think he would. Didn't he make fun of Max? No, no, that was Billy. Yeah, he made fun of Billy. Would he stop?
I do not think so.
I don't think he'd say he's probably on his way to a commercial shoot. My problem is with Travis Kelsey that every time now that I see him on TV, I think I'm in a commercial. Yeah, like he could be on the sidelines and I'll cut to him. I'll be like, this is an old spice commercial where they're dressed up as the chiefs.
Yeah, like, he's, he's all over the place, he's really good by the way, good for him making the money. Yeah, but still, as a viewer, I, he's now, he's now part of the commercials.
Yeah, we.
This will be a big time. Like, who's got the best tight end bowl? Because kiddo, we were partial to Kiddo. Did you see George Kiddo? His block on Aidan Hutchinson? That was football porn, did you see it?
Yeah, I did. Yeah, it was, you can tell he's laughing to be fucking.
Bodied him, and I know Kelsey's a better like, has the accolades and is a better catcher. Maybe kiddo has to block a lot, so he doesn't get as many chances. There's a lot of weapons you got, a feed, kiddo can block, he's.
I mean, he could play offensive line, he's fucking nasty. yeah, he. I love him.
I want to. I can't wait for the mic top to come out from this. Like the N.FL films, recap, Watch inside the NFL.
I guarantee he was laughing after that block. And we'll get, we'll get Kiddo on the show Super Bowl week, so I'm excited for him to get back to Super Bowl. People were playing that clip where he was, you know, sitting there, being like, I'll be back here, yeah, back here.
So I'm happy he's back there, he's got, he's got to win this one, but I'm happy he's back there. All right, anything else? Lions fans? I feel really bad.
DeTRoiT Donna. He did reach out to me, he said. He's pretty sad, pretty down. But there's a lot of things to be looking forward to with this young Lions team. I told him that in perpetuity, if the Lions go to the Super Bowl, they can't.
The one caveat is they can't beat the Commanders or the Bears on the road to the Super Bowl. Yeah, because I don't want to buy tickets for that, but if they go to the Super Bowl without that happening, I will buy them two tickets to the suit.
But imagine a Commanders Lions NFC Championship game, and the stakes are either I get to go to a Super Bowl, yeah, or the Lions go and I have to buy them. Okay, so maybe we'll keep it in. Yeah, yeah, how much, how much more exciting would that be? You're right, you're right.
Gotta chase that high. That was tough, I feel bad, I do. I do think that the Lions, at least from what I've seen in the postgame, they have a pretty good attitude about it, which they're not saying it sucks.
But look at all we accomplished. Like Pena Sewell was like, Yeah, this doesn't mean shit, that we lost her. Yeah, like, we're not. This isn't what we set out to, it, we're now.
We're like every other team that lost this postseason. Yeah, Dan Campbell had some awesome quotes.
He's like, it's gonna be, it's gonna be twice as hard next year, but that's why we do it like, this is why this is what sports are. They crush you. Oh, that's what do you you feel now?
I'm looking forward to the discourse of What do you do with Jared Goff? How much do you pay? I'm not looking forward to that. You're gonna have to pay him, you're gonna have to pay Jared, and he deserves every penny.
Yeah, well, Ben Johnson's gonna be your coach, Ben John. So watching this game as a Commanders fan, it it was great for me because Ben Johnson is fucking awesome. I love his play calling. The offense is just next level, they're a step ahead and then on the niner side of the ball, Adam Peters, our new GM, helped put that team together.
Yeah, so I'm feeling if we can just merge these two teams together with play, calling and talent, then that's what I want.
The talent part is definitely important because Ben Johnson is incredible, but he will not have the Detroit Lions offensive line.
He won't have that here. And Jared had a good quote where he said, like, what I love about Ben Johnson is that he does what we do best and he optimizes that. Yeah, and then, as a commander's fan, I'm like, Well, we don't really do anything back. He's just gonna get in training cam and be like, Shit, yeah, just punt.
I guess way, all how spinning ultra all trust way all the time. We have a running back that bounces back extremely quickly from being shot, so maybe I'm gonna shoot him again and then punt the ball. Yeah, I like that. Yeah, okay.
Well, we'll do a little Super Bowl talk, let's take another break quick for some ads, and then we'll also do Who's back of the Week? before we get to Super Bowl talk.
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Okay, so Super Bowl real quick Chiefs Open is two and a half point underdogs. It's now a one-point underdog, so it has moved significantly early.
Money on the Chiefs I've already bet the Chiefs Plus 114. Before it moved, I'd said I was gonna do it. I could get burned, but I'm sick of Patrick Holmes burning me, yeah, and I. This is the rare bet where it's like, If they, if the Chiefs lose and I lose this money. I'll be so happy for Kittle and he'll probably maybe give me the money.
I would be very happy for Kittle, for Shanahan, for Trent Williams, to win a Super Bowl. Debo Chisholm Christian Chase Young played so bad today. I don't know if you saw any of those clip. Yeah, no, but yeah, I would be very happy to see those guys win a Super Bowl. I think I might go with Niners.
I haven't decided yet. I did put a future on Christian McCaffrey winning the Super Bowl MVP. I would assume that would mean that the Niners would win that game, they would have to win. The only thing that I know for sure is, I'm gonna bet no doings again.
Yeah, I'm gonna chase the note, I have to, I have to get that money back. Yeah, you have to I, I'm gonna do the.
Unstoppable force First, the immovable object. A Game of the Year verse, Patrick Holmes, or The Game of the Year on Patrick Holmes. Which one is is more powerful?
Yeah.
My jinxing ability, you could be terrible, just like my awful, awful gambling record if one of the worst gamblers of all time. If you game of the year and the Chiefs lose, it is going to be on site for you. In Kansas City. Yeah, that will be fair. She's fans can absolutely say I'm not allowed in Kansas City.
Although I am believing in your guy, where's Chiefs a holic? gonna watch the game? Jail, jail, still in jail. probably jail free. free chiefs a holic.
He was MBS tweeted a tribute today. Did he really nice double-check? That's probably a difference in the game. I've also taken the chiefs. Okay, so Max Max is a loser, Max.
Yeah, it's not our thing is. Is Yukon written all over it? You tweeted, Oh, you're just gonna bet against them every single way. Oh, they didn't cover against the Packers. No, I actually haven't bet on the Niners or against them because I thought that they were gonna kill.
Have you thought about how pathetic it is what you're doing? Yeah, okay, yeah, I just want to make sure, because you're, you're. If you had won the Super Bowl last year, I would understand everything you're doing, but you lost. But it's not.
Let's talk about this because if you have the if, you have the 49ers, that are definitely better. That motherfucking graphic, yeah, it's the Washington coaches graphic. I hate it. If you take this year's Niners and you just put Brock Purdy back in that game from last year, they probably beat the Eagles, right, right. How many?
How many points did the Eagles lose by to the Chiefs last year in the Super Bowl? Three, three points. Do you think Brock Purdy is worth three points?
Easily, so I first is a non quarterback, but we're gonna find out. Yeah, I guess we'll find out.
Exactly How many points Brock Purdy is worth? I'm just.
Again, I just if you had won the Super Bowl, I would totally understand what you were doing, but you didn't. But it's not, it's not justifying it to myself. It's the Niners fans. You just want to make sure that the sanctity of the championship banner that you rose.
I you put up, I just don't want to hear from Niners fans. Got it, got it well, they kind of already proved their point.
Well, if they get smoked by the chiefs, then they don't. Well, no, because they would have just gotten smoked by the Chiefs last year, but the Eagles and not get smoked by the Chiefs. Okay, so, but they would have still been to the Super Bowl. They know their their point is already been your math that your math doesn't work. No, they would have, they would have beaten the Eagles.
They were good enough to win the NFC last year, they won the NFC this year. Who knows what happens in a Super Bowl? But what show? What? Why? Because they had brock Purdy healthy.
This year, they won the NFC.
But last, that wasn't hurt. They didn't win the NFC, but that wasn't against the Eagles. I'm just saying they've accomplished. But both teams will play the Chiefs, so if the niner, if the Niners get blown out by the Chiefs. So you are just trying to keep the sanctity of an NFC champion? No, I'm just.
I just don't want Niners fans talking about how they would have won that, and if you can't be, you don't want Niners fan.
Getting so up. And no, they can't that they tell you that they would have gone to the Super Bowl and lost the Chiefs, correct?
But yeah, they can, because they are. You're appalled he's upholding the sanctity of his second place. Yeah right, I get it only for Niners fans.
Got it? It's pathetic, I'm not for my own.
Enjoyment. I will say this, though, Max is the best at being second place, so I understand that. Yeah, I.
Don't want to be second place.
How awesome would have been, though, if it was the Lions and the Chiefs and you got Eminem against Taylor Swift, that Eminem picture was.
So cool, double birds, double birds, all the niners. It would have been great.
If he would, what if they came up, like in their their pregame hype up video? It was Eminem doing the eight-mile battle rap, but he was just rapping about Taylor Swift. Oh, entire time. Oh, it was. It was actually Vivek doing it.
That would have been, that would have been insane, yeah.
Just doing it all right. Okay, I have a, I have a who's back.
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I heard a rumor today that it was their fox is gonna throw the bag at Belichick. Brady Gronk That would be awesome if Belichick was sideline reporter for Brady's broadcast.
I think, I think I get Edelman involved in the studio.
Foreman booth that, so there's. The story broke right after we had to record early on Thursday because we were doing rough-and-rowdy. Raheem Morris got hired by the Falcons. That looked like the Bill Belichick destination. It looks like it's gonna be Ben Johnson to the commanders, and I believe, is Mike McDonald gonna get the job in Seattle?
I don't want to jinx anything. I would like Ben Johnson for the right. This is what I'll say. And then, yeah, they're saying that, that probably McDonald, okay, either that, or maybe Dan Quinn still.
I don't know, Mike McDonald did a good shit, good enough job. Yeah, hey, that he should still get this now, that you should judge it on one game. But if you were thinking about hiring Todd Monk and don't, yeah.
That's crazy, though. The Bill Belichick is gonna be unemployed. Yeah, insane. I guess it's just because of his age.
I think it's probably want to do this all again in, you know, four or five years control.
It's probably my guess is that no team wants to give up control for the it's a control age combo. Where it's like, we would like Bill Belichick to coach. We don't know if we want to give Bill Bill Belichick the entire like franchise if he's not gonna coach for the next 10 years.
It's like an older person just wrecks the range rover, right? And then they're like, Hey, I'd really like to get the the Grand Wagoneer. Yes, dead. And you're like, Wait a second, right? What happened to your last car? We're gonna take your license away.
Yeah, maybe you go take the test again. Yeah, you should be. I would take Bill Belichick as a defensive coordinator right now. No questions asked. Yeah, it is crazy, though.
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