Jared Goff, Mt Rushmore Of Things That Are Fun Once, Grit Week Recap And A Farewell To Billy Football

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Welcome to pardon my take. Today is Friday, August 4th, Grit Week presented by Coors Light and Football is back, the Hall of Fame game.

Man, did it deliver? We're recording this at halftime, so we don't actually know what.

Happened in the second half. People are going to be like, Damn, pardon, my take got so soft.

They didn't wait until the end of the game. Zach Wilson went a blistering three-for-five.

61 yards Spun his way out of well, no, spun his way into a sack. Well, that was very funny.

Because at the time, Chris Collinsworth was like, Hey, look, this is a new Zach Wilson out there. Look at him, get around, moving around the pocket, feeling comfortable, and he gets sacked, yeah.

By the way, we have made it to Chicago, we are actually outside the new Barstool Chicago headquarters that is still under construction. But we thought, perfect way to end grit week. We go all the way from New York. We actually moved Max.

And football is back, and Hank's doing a TikTok now during the show. Great Hank, good job.

Ass, you could use ass kicking for us. Five-five Billy's finale Shut up, Jake.

The thing about Grit Week is we actually have a great time, but on this show, we sometimes have a great time by having a not-so-great time. And Hank has been getting the brunt of the punishment.

For good reason, though, I just want to say, for good reason, the best way to describe Grit Week. It is one of my favorite weeks of the year. It's all of us packing into a RV, traveling around, doing interviews, stopping at random locations, and essentially, what we do is we stop. We get out, we have fun together. Something happens. We get back in the RV and then we bicker for about an hour until our next destination. Then we get out and we repeat over and over, and it is so much fun. Because nothing is actually serious, we have fights, but nothing actually lasts.

Really get mad at people that we don't like, right? Except for hank. Paintball almost ended this.

Podcast That video will come out later. But that was a perfect encapsulation of Grit week. We went to paintball, tensions got high, multiple different directions. We came back in the RV. We sat in silence for about 20 minutes, and then we just pretended, like, none of that happened. Yeah, and.

Perfect encapsulation of part of my take, all in one week. We had Billy flipping out during paintball, which you'll see the video for later, going way over the top, being ridiculous. We had Jake being allergic to literally everything that we said or did or saw, and then we had Hank just.

Being kind of a piece of shit, yeah, that's pretty much a perfect way. Oh, and also Max flopped his.

Titty out for everyone. Oh yeah, that's pretty good. So all of that happened. Yeah, it's titties.

You got Janet Maxxing. We'll get to that later, we'll get to that later, but yeah, it's been a.

Great week, a long week. We did some great interviews that are coming out in the next couple.

Weeks. But yeah, football is back, it's very back, very back and a stat that we'll have to keep our eye on this upcoming season. Jim Schwartz, from the Browns, said that their defense may not lead the league in points against, but they will lead it in. Swag, okay?

The year don't they do a swag award? They do the swag of the year. Yeah, we should, actually, that's.

Happy he's found a new home. The pregame rundown of what Aaron Rogers has been doing since his time in New York was hilarious. I don't know if you heard it, but they were like, he's been going to, Yeah.

Kill this fucking guy, he heard. Rogers, It was Zach Wilson's birthday today. Oh so, two, two goats, he, Tom Brady and Zach Wilson.

Are mirror image? I said a couple of weeks ago, I need to find a Champions League team, you say.

Football, team, soccer, soccer, team soccer. So what team is it? Hank, Uh, some of the B Birmingham.

Being sure we did a meet and greet last night, shout out to all the AWs that came out. I would say like 75 to 80 of them kept saying how not short you were in real life, so that's kind of good. I thought you were way shorter.

Podcast Everyone thinks that I'm four foot zero. By the way, did you see the Madison Mallards who?

Uh, Doug's and Frank. I think we're out there throwing first pitches because they're doing their annual summer throw first pitch in every, every game. They have a, uh, free ticket for any guy under five, five and any girl over six feet. I love that, it's a great promo.

Representation matters for the short kings out there. There there was a twist, um it, amongst the part of my take guys this week at the meet and greet. I don't know if Big Cat Hank you guys want to talk about it because I hit me in the nuts, yeah.

I'm not going to do it to you.

Neck cut off. You did commit the offense by following me around all week. Do my job personal tick tock. I'm a content creator, your personal tick tock spoiling grit.

Funny way to start. Can't buy me another nut, though. I might have to do a preemptive strike.

Because you just don't know, well, you're not on the show anymore, I know, but I'm still here.

I'm gonna have to go out with a bang, oh, like, you're going to Korea. That would be sick if.

Billy just came in like a like a mass nut tapper and just hit everybody in their sack on the way.

Out, Hey, can't get him back there, all right, what else we got going on in the sports world? I saw a tie done has a release.

And pretend none of that happened. You could write anything about Urban Meyer's tenure on the Jaguars, and I would believe it. It's so awesome, but these stories are going to keep coming out, it's the best.

Run out like every year. It should just be. It's basically a time capsule. We should just open it up every year and be like, what's the new Urban Meyer anecdote from his less than one year in?

JACKSONVILLE Yeah, what was the other one that came out? Oh, he was kicking his kicker, yeah.

He kicked his kick, kick, Josh Lambo around, kicked his kicker. Uh, by the way, it's it's the website's go long td.com, so, uh, he is. Support independent journalists. We also had an.

We had, we had an update in the Uh, in the gym. Or, say, files of Mr. Ursa. So, uh, there's a whale, uh, an orca. excuse me, there's an orca that's been in captivity. What's her name?

A cargo plane, Yeah, dude, they're actually taking. I thought you were a whale guy.

It's an orca. yeah, I don't like orcas as much, uh.

That's kind of, it's kind of valid. Um, yeah.

How did you see? So there was an artist rendition? but how do you? how do you put the water in the cargo plane? Yeah, there was an artist rendition. I want you to look at this because it's a very funny picture. This is Gaslight City.

Plane and it leaks out a little because it's not very watertight. What did they get? What do you mean? They're also flying her? they're flying a friend to first class tickets.

The artist rendition of it. It's just a plane strapped to an orca.

Flying it, she, she's not going to be. Aren't all the power and all the oceans connected?

Yeah, just send it to the Panama Canal, why don't they just throw it out there? Why don't?

They just throw some rope around it and tow it, you just let it figure it out, it's a long tow.

Cause it's a 15 acre netted area in that sound, but that's better than better than, Yeah, I just.

Love Jim or say, man, like, I'm getting so much shit. This week, my name's being dragged through the mud about the Jonathan Taylor situation. I need some positive press. Oh, I know what I'll do, I'll spend $20 to fly a whale across the country.

You can do whatever the fuck he wants and there's a salary cap. But it is funny now that Orca could get that, Orca probably could get, like a goal line yard better than Jonathan Taylor.

Probably yeah. And by the way, memes I need you to make a photoshop of a banner hanging from the colts. Uh, the the roof of Lucas Oil saying, flew a whale across the United States? Hank doesn't.

Still doesn't believe that this whale is getting flown. Technically not a whale. Technically not.

A whale, okay, no orca. a killer orca, there's no way. Well, just like a really big, there's no.

Sounds like you're saying because the airlines are bad right now, the water, oh, the air is not.

Water? but how? like? So there's no water in the car? So what Jim or say is buying a giant tank, putting it on a plane, filling it up with water, then dropping the orca into the water. And then.

Flying it to Seattle? No, there's a chance he might die. He's good, zero, zero percent.

What, what are you? okay? I can't, there's I. I just I know you guys are just fucking with me.

But no, we're not, we're not telling you the truth. No, it's true. Okay, sure.

All right, that's fine. Um, all right, well, before we talk a little more stuff and then we I didn't intro. By the way, we're going to do the Mount rushmore of things you should only do once.

Fucking head, I was showing, Don't shake your head, I was showing Hank the article about how transporting this Orca. And they're putting it into a cargo truck and then driving that truck to the airport, putting it on a cargo plane, flying it across the country, putting it onto yet another.

Truck than driving it. I mean, hank, it costs $20 million. If this happens, I will do one of.

Those websites where you buy a whale, I will become a whale, you're going to buy a whale.

Yeah, if Lizzo can get to Amsterdam and back. Oh, Billy, I've seen the clip on his last show.

Nice Billy. I would feed an orca, a banana, out of my ass.

Yeah, definitely other things we had, Oh, Nate, Nate, Diaz and Jake Paul.

The disclosure for the Mets.

Yeah, they'll hurt. How's the rehab going?

They're fighting this weekend. I'm going to buy it.

Yeah, I mean, you kind of have to, because it's going to be a shit show. Exactly the fight. Was that the weigh-in or just the face-off? I think it was just a face-off.

It was a face-off.

It was something, it was an actual fight, there were punches thrown, which is good to see. I always bet on the boxer if it's a boxer versus an MMA guy in a boxing match, but is Jake Paul really a boxer?

It is hard to bet against him. I'm trying to find the guy. I was laughing because some guy said, there's going to be a whole army of California that's going to come and back up. Nate Diaz, You're not ready for this war. And he's like, I unfortunately can only do this behind my keyboard, but be ready.

Fun fact Logan Paul was supposed to get this fight with Nate, and Jake cucked him for it. So there was an interview with Hawani that Logan did. Where he was like, Yeah, I was about to get this fight, the guy backed out, I don't know what other fight he could have gotten.

But Jake and Logan should fight.

Yeah, they should.

Hopefully this drums something up because that would actually be great to see.

Remember when you made I want to fight Jakepaul?

I mean, he's been training for all these years, I've been podcasting.

Maybe now's your time to shine.

There was a great moment last night when Billy was saying he could jump over a dinner table. Where he referred to himself two years ago as being a freak of nature and two years ago, he could have done it. Two years ago, you were doing this podcast.

No, well, I got my time mixed up my junior year of college. I was a freak, I was squatting.

A freak of nature like Billy Billy football.

I broad jumped, I broad jumped 12, No, I Broad jumped 11 and I was in the best shape of my life. We've gone a ways from there, but I can still fucking jump.

Okay, all right.

Uh, breaking news, by the way, maybe not breaking news. I feel like it's just been trickling out for the last two days, but it looks like Arizona is officially going to go to the Big 12..

Okay, not surprising.

Not surprising.

And Washington? They called a meeting of their board of regents or whatever. Yes, it sounds like they're going to go.

Well, no, yeah, Washington and Oregon are being looked at by the Big 10. Uh, the Big 10 doesn't have to do anything right now. They also made it very clear they're not going to be predatory in any of this.

No, of course not, yeah.

So we, we're just going to do what's best for the Big 10, but yeah, it looks like Arizona is going to go to the Big 12.

It's just like we said, it's going to end up being two leagues pretty soon. Yeah, probably going to be maybe a big 10. How many teams are in the big 10 now?

What should be the Big 10 West and the Big 10 East? And then the title game should be at the Rose Bowl?

We're 16 on January 1st and the big 10.

Uh, there's, there's 14, going to be 16.

Uh huh.

So how many teams is too many teams?

All of them, put all of them in.

Well, I think you've got to get to 20, cause then you can have two big tents.

MM right.

That makes sense.

Yeah.

The legends and leaders, you know, who actually coming out looking pretty good in all of this conference realignment. I never thought I'd say this.

Notre Dame, Yep, Notre Dame, yeah.

They said that they're committed to stay with their tradition.

They're committed to being independent. Why would you? You don't need to join?

Yeah.

Just beat up on on whatever cupcake schools you want to schedule, yeah.

They make all the money and they don't have to worry about it. Uh, last thing I had before we get to Jared Goff, Uh, do Jake and Billy want to talk about the Yankees and what's going on with their season?

Yeah, so, uh, well, that favorite, No, I said on the show, he's my least favorite, and look at that, I'm right.

Again.

So we're all. This chap is not your least favorite.

Oh god.

What happened?

Jake, What happened?

Um, to me, I didn't look into the details, but he did another bad thing off the field.

He's going to rehab.

Is he still on the team?

He's not for the rest of this year.

Yeah.

But the bigger news was, uh, Anthony Rizzo is going on the IL for a concussion that he suffered. Can anyone guess when he suffered it?

In May, against the padres.

Yes, in May 28th, he suffered a concussion.

That sounds like a retroactive we don't want to get sued move.

Yeah, so here are his stats, uh. In the 53 games before this concussion, he had 11 home runs, was batting 304 in the 46 games since this concussion. So, 46 games he played since the concussion, he had one home run and was batting 172..

It's just interesting of the timing, where it's after. They're pretty much done for the season. Yeah, like, no hope of winning anything. So they're like, Okay, yeah, now we'll treat your head injury.

It's pretty, pretty much bullshit. They did my guy Rizzo wrong. Uh, I'm taking away Cashman's pinstripes.

Herman in jail.

Round around Rizzo's head.

Yes, ew.

What ew?

You can't read.

No.

People in jail wear pinstripes.

Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Hank or Jake, No.

You don't wear Yankee pinstripes.

They wear orange.

They're, they're horizontal pinstripes. Yeah, you ever seen the Yankee way?

That's what I said, yeah.

No, but concussions like that are kind of no joke. Rizzo trying to play through it, that's off to him.

Oh, Billy, you've changed. you have changed. You used to be a freak of nature, and now I listen to you.

Yeah, well, I got hit in the head too many times.

You?

No, I mean, you're right, you're right. Like a concussion that you suffer at any level of sport is like a pretty. It should be a big deal.

No, this is very bad.

It's weird that they've held on to this for so long, yes.

But the thing is, with something like that, he definitely would never have checked himself out. That's just warrior mentality.

But that's why you need a medical staff.

Right?

That's why I'm blaming the Yankees, not Rizzo.

I don't blame, I blame the situation because Rizzo was definitely, I can still do it, I can still do it.

This is a drunk bot.

You have to think that if the bases were a little bit bigger.

Who's on first?

They would have been able to dive into the base safely, not hit the first baseman. Something to think about.

That's a fact.

Football's different than baseball, though, like a conch guy can still play football, hitting a fastball like that.

Yeah, they don't play football with baseballs.

Right?

That's one difference. Anyone else bats no bat. Oh no, remember it was Josh Norman had a bat.

Yeah, before the game, yeah.

Also, baseball players don't have.

Odell Yeah, yeah, Odell.

The concussion conditioning where's like? They get hit once they don't know how to deal with it, whereas football players, they like, know what it's like, just being calm.

When you get enough concussions, then it's actually better for you to get another.

Then it's your baseline.

You're saying?

Yeah.

Okay, that makes sense. Anything else in the sports world before we get to Jared Goff? Just a great interview.

I'm going to miss Billy.

I'm going to miss Bill. We'll get to that, we'll do, we'll do that. At the end, farewell to Billy. We got a big hurt or injured that we will recap all of grit week after we do the Mount Rushmore.

Four more points. Let's go the jets.

Leading for the Jets, though, in the Hall of Fame.

They're losing, aren't they?

In the over, No, they're not, they're down three, or the Browns are now down three, two, okay?

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It's a simple question What does grit mean to you?

Yeah, that's a good question. I saw Dan's answer, I thought it was great. I think it's along those lines. Yeah, it's the perseverance.

Yeah, as a soft Cali boy, have you been able to find some grit up here in Detroit? Have you gotten grittier since you've gotten here?

I've gotten way grittier since I got to the Midwest out here in Detroit. Yeah, there's a little hotter, a little more humid, you got to grind a little bit more, and yeah, it's been fun.

Yeah, so we mentioned this to you off air. But there is an account on Twitter that replies to PFT and I every single day, it's called Detroit Lions Bot. Shout out that guy with a tracker of days since you've last been on the show for a full interview. I think we're at like, over 1,000 days.

Here we are, it's over.

Shout out Detroit Lions Bot.

Put it back to zero.

Yeah, what does he go? I don't know what his life looks like after this.

He has no purpose, he's like the dog that caught the car.

I'll tell you what if he goes back to day one, like on Saturday, I'm gonna be pissed.

It's dedication that would be good. Anybody can keep track of a stat if it's been a long time, but not everybody has the grit to take it and do it one day. It's been one day since I've gotten to listen to you.

So it has been a long time last time we were at your house in L.A.

That's right, Game of Thrones finale, that's right.

A lot has changed, so let's just start with the change. I know that, like, I'll say this, you handled the trade and everything like a true professional. I feel like we never heard, you know, you could have been upset, you could have been mad, but it felt like you were able to stay above the fray.

Yeah, it was certainly hard, and I think I've had some time to reflect on it now. Being a little bit further away from it, it was harder, maybe, than I thought it was in the moment. You know, you're just kind of naive to it, and you're just, you know, putting your head down every day and going to work.

Did Blake Griffin reach out to you with some words of advice? How to handle that transition?

Blake, Did I think you put me on text with Blake? And I think he was actually trying to work his way out of Detroit when I was working, when I was coming in here, so he was like, you're going to love it, but I'm kind of leaving soon. But yeah, no, he was a good resource, and yeah, it was funny.

The mental side of it, because I think that we don't really. We always know players go through it, but we never really like dive into it. Like, was there a moment where you had, oh shit, like, is this going to work out for me? Am I going to be still, like, you know, a starting quarterback?

I never lost confidence in myself. No, I think I always remained true to myself and knew who I was and what I can do. And having a crew here like Dan and Brad and now Ben Johnson and these coaches and players that believed in me, only made it that much easier to do it for myself. But no, yeah, certainly you can get, you can get in some tough times, but I never. I never lost confidence in what I can do.

You love Ben Johnson, right?

Love Ben Johnson.

Ben Johnson, great offensive coordinator, he could have probably left last year.

Yeah, he got some interviews to be a head coach.

So he's back. I saw something the other day that you texted with him this offseason, you just said four words to him in one text. St Brown, Huge year.

Yeah.

Is that a fact?

Yeah, yeah, I don't know if it was exact same words, but it was something along those lines that was very succinct. I just gotten finished on, I just got done throwing with St Brown out in L.A. and seeing his progression this offseason.

What is it about his offense that you that you love?

A lot of things I think he, he allows, you know, for me personally, to kind of be creative. And I get a lot of decision-making capabilities, a lot of scrimmage. He puts a lot in my hands, a lot, a lot on my plate and allows me to play quarterback and really, you know, direct our offense.

So you were like, it's fourth down. I want to throw the ball to Penae Sewell.

That was his call, but yeah, I'll take credit for the throw, but that was that was a little nugget he thought about. On Monday of that week. I remember we were talking about it, how he was just like, I want to get Penae the ball, somehow, How can we get Penae the ball?

So how pumped was Penae in the huddle? Was he? Like, because you can't do imagine, like he's, he's such a big guy. If the defense is watching, they're like, look at him, jumping up and down, and so excited he might be getting the ball. Is he just like? This is my moment.

Yeah, and they it was Minnesota. So they kept calling timeout kind of in between each play because they were trying to stop. And we knew the whole time we're just going to go for it. On fourth, with this play, it was either third or fourth.

Yeah.

I got to imagine it's fun playing in an offense like that, where you know, okay, we're going.

He's very aggressive, obviously, Dan's very aggressive. We kind of take on that personality as an offense and being able to do creative things that are actually sound and like good football is a lot of fun.

Thank you for ending Aaron Rodgers Packers career. I appreciate that.

I counted that as a playoff win for you guys.

Me too, all right, yeah.

Thank you, I don't know if it counts officially, but yeah.

A little cal on cal crime there you go, just talk to him after.

I must've forgot to say that, but yeah, briefly, just, you know, see you later. Good game and that was it.

Yeah, but that was nice.

That was a fun one, that was a good one to finish on. It was a lot of, you know, emotions, kind of pregame of like, are we going to have a chance to make the playoffs? Are we not?

Uh, I also want to say congratulations. I feel like beating, uh. The Bridge quarterback tag is like, that's a big cause, you know, when you got tried it yet, everyone was like, Oh, Bridge quarterback, and then you played you. You've been playing so well that it's like, No, wait, Jared is is the guy right now. Like, what are we talking about?

So sure, yeah, I appreciate it, yeah.

Because it's gotta be a weird feeling to be put in a situation. Have obviously the Lions into internally is a different story. But the media saying, like, Oh, he's just a Bridge quarterback, and then your play has, like, there's nothing better when athletes are able to prove it on the field. I'm like, No, I'm, I'm playing my balls off.

Sure, sure, I think, uh, there's a lot of members of our media, um, that have a have an easy time writing bad things, and they have for quite some time. And when we were one in six, they were laying it on pretty thick. And then we kind of flipped the script. And it was almost like they ran out of things to write because they weren't used to putting, uh, positive news out there, I guess.

Record I saw a tier list of quarterbacks that came out last week and under the guy, the top tier, it was like my homes. Joe Burrow, Josh Allen, Jared Golf was right at the top of the list.

As well.

Great, see that list.

I didn't.

It was a great list.

It was who made it really big podcast.

I think we made it.

Oh, but it's a good list.

It was great as an impartial observer of my own list.

Thank you.

Well, we want you to be hungry.

So there you go, yeah.

We can't just give you everything.

All right, yeah, I appreciate it.

Do you have any immature D's nuts jokes to use on us?

I don't, but I thought Josh's was incredible.

I thought it was disgusting. There are kids in Buffalo. Listen, Jared, there are kids in Buffalo. They look up to him, He's a God, right?

Bad role model.

He ruined the future of Buffalo.

I thought the setup was so good, yeah, it was hook, line and sinker.

Pardon my take, for a lot of young, impressionable youth out there. We are their heroes, and they just saw their heroes. Like, Uh, you know, like I said, get stuffed by the rim on a dunk.

That's right.

And I was like, Wait, my legs don't work anymore. Are we getting old? That was a tough moment.

I don't have one for you. I thought about, like, coming up with one and I'm like, Ah, I'm gonna let him, I'll let him have that win. And I don't want to. I don't want to try to overdo that.

Uh, are you still in touch with Blake?

Oh, yeah, how are you guys doing recently? I talked to him when he won Blake of the Year, yeah.

The all time story of after the Super Bowl, where you and Blake were in the kitchen trying to figure out how to make pizza rolls in the oven.

Oh boy.

And we walked in the P, we walked into the kitchen, it was probably like 3am, and Jared figured out how to make pizza rolls in the oven. There's just all the smoke in the world coming out of there. Like, Jared and Blake are going to burn down our house on SuperBowl week.

That was a such a fun like, crazy collusion night, like of just things I remember loud. Sean is like the legend I remember of him running around, running around his underwear, like challenging my buddy who played Division One basketball.

So, yeah, we were watching him sleep.

Sleep through it all. Yeah, people are jumping in and out of the pool. I think Hank jumped in the pool. It was like, Oh, what was that?

And then the next morning you called me, you're like, we, we have a flight and we can't find Blake, where is he? and I was like, Dude, what do you mean? where is he?

Like, I probably left a little earlier than he did, and we were, we were. We were unable to leave without him because he was a part of our crew.

I just remember getting that call and just being like, Jared, you're a a number one pick, starting quarterback in the N.FL, like you find your friend. I don't know where he went.

Yeah, he's an all timer and a guy I miss, certainly.

Yeah.

Yeah, microchip your Blake's.

You said, what?

Track you have to microchip your Blake's.

Yeah, right, he's a tough guy to get ahold of, sometimes he's out there.

He's like, found the, I think Blake has found, like, the secret to happiness.

No, no, he's just doing something, or he's not, and he doesn't feel like it. Yeah, exactly.

He could just be, I could imagine. Sometimes I call him and he's just like staring out at his like lawn, and he's like, Yeah, I'll call him back later.

Yeah, that's right.

He's having a great time.

Having a moment?

Are you? Will you ever apologize for the Saints game?

To who?

The Saints fans.

No god, no.

Okay.

They got the ball in overtime, they had a chance to win it.

There we go, I like that.

Was that pass interference?

No, no, it wasn't.

It was not, it was not called pass interference.

I've had a million pass interferences that weren't called. Who says he makes the field goal, too? I know it was like, automatic from there Lutz was, but I don't know I mean.

Yeah.

Yeah, they asked Jordan, like, did you push off against the Jazz Game Six? He's like, Did they call it?

Did they call it? No, no. I thought Roby's response was fantastic after the game, though.

Was there ever a moment during that two week stretch? Cause I remember, like Saints fans were like trying to petition, they were trying to take the like Supreme Court. We were like, are they going to actually figure out a way to play this game again?

Yeah, they wanted to restart it from that play, No, they had that happen and then they ended up throwing the ball again. They could have ran it and ran off more clock.

Yeah, I guess I wouldn't apologize, but also there's a lot of people that are going to be mad hearing you say that.

That's okay, they can be mad, they can be mad.

Bringing it up.

Yeah, every once in a while, Dan was on that staff. So I'll like, kind of, you know, just toss it out there every once in a while. If a situation comes up that is somewhat similar and he laughs about it, he handles it good.

I read a story that Dan Campbell, that was like the first time he, like, kind of fell in love with you. Cause you're toughness in that game.

Yeah, that was. That was the loudest game I've ever played in, and I don't know maybe ever will play in just in that place. Reverbing off the roof, the amount of noise and I remember that first third down and my helmet was all messed up.

Do you do you love Dan Campbell?

Love him.

We love him.

I love him too.

So was it love at first sight, or did he have to grow on you a little bit?

No, I've always loved him. I think seeing him grow as a head coach has been so fun and coming to his own. I know, you know, for me too, I think him seeing me grow into my own as a quarterback. It's been fun to kind of grow together and go through the trials and tribulations together. And have a chance to, you know, have a have a pretty good team this year and do some things.

So you said that he wanted a live lion on the sideline, very true story, very real thing that he actually wants. For the record, I appreciate everybody writing articles about it.

I'd love it as long as it's in a cage, right? I don't know if it would be loose.

That's soft, no, you gotta have it loose.

Just running around, yeah.

Maybe one of, you know, like the the. When someone has a big yard, have the almost zip line and they have their dog on the zip line. You could do that through the whole field.

Ooh, or have the line run out and retrieve the kick on kickoffs instead of like the dog.

I kind of like, like, how Colorado runs out with the Buffalo? yeah, someone runs out with a lion, yes.

That'd be very intimidating.

A couple of people holding it on a leash.

What about Dan Campbell riding the Lion?

Ooh, that'd be really good.

These are all real things Dan Campbell's considering.

That sounds like a metallica song, yeah.

Dan Campbell Actually fun fact about him, he does practice and then the rest of the day.

I saw that.

Do you think that he does? is he good at doing that sort of thing? Like, Okay, I'm going to play into the image of Dan Campbell that a lot of people, I'll throw them some red meat. So they got something to write about, so they're not writing negative things about, about the team, or.

Yeah, I think he just does it for sport at this point, like he thinks it's funny. The Panay's play that we talked about earlier, where he, you know, joked with the media afterwards that his headset was off. He didn't know what was happening. And then all of a sudden, we're throwing it to Panay. And people took that, as you know, the truth that he was not aware that we were running that play.

That's some art of worship, it's like, make them make your opponent believe that you're unprepared, right, right?

He kind of likes it, yeah.

Continue to underestimate, yeah.

Right, should we talk a little bit about your college team in the Big 12? Trying to rip apart the sure Cal's in trouble? What's going to happen?

I don't think Cal's going anywhere. Yeah, well, I think we are at Pac-12 steadfast.

So just be Cal and Stanford.

That's right, just Cal and Stanford, Cal, Stanford, maybe Oregon State, you know, Arizona, Arizona state. Sound like they're going to stay. No, no, it doesn't.

And maybe Washington State, too.

Sure, Washington State. We just run, you know, we play each other three times a year.

Round Robin.

Exactly, yeah.

But your coach, who we actually had on a couple times this year? Sonny Dykes Yes, from college. I mean, were you at all surprised that he had that success going to TCU because there were moments, especially his cal time?

Yeah.

Where it felt like he was teetering and like, Can he get the job done?

Yeah, no, I was so excited for him. I think the TCU job was a perfect landing spot for him and I know he was excited for it. And the team they had last year was gritty and, you know, was able to win some close games. The most talented team probably not, but they did some things that were pretty special in the fourth quarter of those games. I'm sure it covered some spreads for you guys and maybe hit some overs for you guys.

And that field goal was wild, the one where he just ran the guys out there.

Was it Baylor?

Seven seconds, yeah, eight seconds left.

It was late in the year. Yeah, yeah, but I was so, I mean, I was so fired up for him and obviously didn't finish the way they wanted. And I love Duggan.

They were just running him, like, over and over. Yes, you could tell, it's very hard, like a lot of the times, someone will be gasped, but you can't really tell.

And it was because he just kept on having heat stroke, you know, running it again, and then they'd stop the ball.

He'd be like, 15 yards, rip it off.

Yeah.

Yeah, you remember that video that you did, where you went back to college and you got dressed up.

That was good, huh?

It was very clearly just Jared Goff participating in a practice. Was anybody on the team like, Hey, you're just Jared? Why is Jared Goff practicing?

I think we did a good job of the disguise. What they did before, that is, they had cameras there telling them they were on, like, Last chance you? for like, a week. So then, by the time I got there, it didn't seem like there was just cameras there. And I think, what? Actually, if you remember, there was one receiver who spoke up and said, That's my, you know, that's our quarterback.

Eli copied it later.

I know he did, I told him that, I told him. I said, the pro ball, I'm like, you guys, just straight. He's like, Yeah, we kind of ripped off.

Sorry, we'll get Joe Buck to go after Eli for that.

Yeah, for sure. It would have been funny if you showed up. Showed up for that practice and just like, had an off day and sucked and the coach was like, I guess we got to cut you.

Throwing it to the other team.

Yeah, what's? I'm going to give you an opportunity to gas up. Lions fans. I would imagine going from L.A. to Detroit. In terms of fandom is a pretty big difference in how people like, live and breathe and eat football out here, yeah.

Yeah, it's as loyal as a passionate as you know, if you're fervorous, like just foaming at the mouth type of thing that these fans are. It's so fun to be around, I go to dinner, I go to the supermarket, it's always, you know, people are always saying they're so excited.

What's your favorite throw?

Ever.

Yeah.

Like that I've ever made or type of throw.

Ever made? We'll do both.

Oh gosh, favorite throw I've ever made.

That's a good answer.

Yeah, yeah, I would have said, I would have said wheel route.

I like wheels.

I like the wheel.

You like throwing the wheel, or you like running the wheel.

Both. I like watching the wheel.

Yeah.

Yeah, the wheel, it always works. Have you noticed that?

When have you seen it work last?

It's one Juke and then to the house.

Right, just an out and up, right, right.

It's out and up. They always forget to cover the running back. Yeah, I don't know why.

Maybe a juke, it's gone.

And you like throwing it and running it.

Yeah, well, I haven't ever thrown one, but I think I would like to throw it.

Perfect, yeah.

If I was ever a quarterback, I've thrown a lot of wheel routes.

You've thrown a lot.

Well, with my fingers in a video game, right? Yeah, right, that counts.

That counts, that absolutely counts. Four verticals on Madden, we run a similar.

Yeah, exactly that absolutely counts. Yeah, I know the game.

There you go.

What's your Dan Campbell? I mean, we've talked about him a lot. But what's the what's the one thing this year that he's telling the team that's like, different, cause we it's? It's weird. Going into this season, the Lions are very hyped up, yeah.

It's very simple, I think, and he's done a great job of it. It's just it's the same exact people that were telling us how bad we were last year, right? And it happened so quickly.

Yeah, it's a great point about the media, too, because it really was like a month and a half.

It was, yeah.

I mean, I said it was like, six weeks, yeah, when you were one in six. I was like, I think Dan Campbell lost the locker room. I told him that because I'm an idiot, I said, I react to everything.

Right, yeah, no, no, and like I spoke about with our media, it's it's interesting that, you know, they they they kind of enjoy, or it seems to like they are. Have so many more questions when we're losing, right?

Yes, nice, yeah, and you don't have hard knocks this year, which has got to be nice.

Really nice.

Last year on hard knocks, where you like, Okay, I'm experienced at this now. Third time, don't ask me any science questions like where the where the sun comes?

No more sun. I'm still figuring that one out. It's confusing every day. I got to look up, all right.

We can give you a chance to kind of redeem yourself. Have you seen Oppenheimer? Okay, I was going to ask you to explain how atomic bombs work.

Way beyond what I what I would know.

Have you seen, Barbie?

I haven't seen Barbie.

What'd you think?

I thought it was funny, I know there's a lot of, uh of, uh, differing opinions on it. I thought it was really funny, actually. If you go into it knowing it's supposed to be like, stupid, funny.