#1986 - Jack Carr
2023-05-16 02:37:23
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Alright, we're up and we are up.
Good to see you, man.
Great to see you.
How does it feel to have another one done?
Oh, it feels great, but there's another one in the works, so it doesn't really stop. I mean, I hear some guys like John Grisham talk about. They do six months of work and six months off, and that's kind of the routine that they've gotten on. But for me, it's go, go, go, this the next one scripts.
Do you ever anticipate doing like a six month on, six month off thing?
Maybe when the kids are out of the house, maybe someday way later on. But right now it's still building. It's just like any entrepreneurial type of venture. You've got to just go and keep building and take advantage of momentum and look for gaps in the enemy's defenses and adapt and just go, go, go, go. So it's a constant thing.
From the second I wake up till everybody else is in bed and I'm working for a few more hours.
Yeah, you've got to make hay while the sun's shining. Yeah, I think about that, too. With the podcast, I'm like, one day, you know, I do so many things.
Sometimes I'm like, one day, maybe I'll just do one thing.
I don't know, will you be able to do that? I don't know.
I don't think I'm ill.
Have you ever been bored?
I don't even know what that means, you know why? No, I never.
When people talk about being bored, like I'm going to hear that from one of our kids, I'm like, that's like the one thing that gets me.
Yeah.
But because I've never been bored in my life, I'm bored at things.
Like, if someone takes me to a gala and I have to dress like a monkey, sit there and wait.
How many of those have you? You don't do those anymore, do you?
I had to do one recently. Oh for what? Yeah, a friend. Yeah. There was an art thing that was going on here, so I had to dress up and like, Jesus Christ.
It's every now and again, it's okay, maybe.
Maybe it was okay because I was next to my friend and his wife and my wife. It was fun. But it's for the most part, it's like, that's the only time I get bored.
Yeah.
Then I get hostile.
Really.
Then I have a couple of drinks and I get a little hostile.
Do you are people nervous when you're there?
No, they get weird, they get weird, man.
Just looking at you, that you're there.
Yeah, people stare at me really. Yeah. It's gotten exponentially weirder over the last, like three years, I bet I used to be able to blend in.
Yeah, five years ago, I could blend in anywhere, really. yeah, just people say hi, but that would be it okay.
No, but now it changes the dynamic of the room type of thing. Yeah, yeah, it's weird.
I'm not changing the dynamic of any room, I don't think, but people definitely in the airport stop and say hi. And I feel so just fortunate that people are interested enough in the books or the podcast or the TV show or whatever to actually recognize me and say hi. One guy recognized me by my Sikka backpack last night.
Oh, wow.
I was flying out here and he's like, the backpack gave you away because I was in the corner. Calling my wife on Mother's Day and my mom on Mother's Day, both.
It's all opti-fade.
He said Well, no, it's the gray one, it's the drifter. Oh, it just blends, but it has the little Sikka symbol. He said. The backpack gave you away.
I turned around and said, I don't know, I said, Hi, I feel extremely fortunate.
Yeah, I do, too. We're very lucky guys to be able to do what we love to do when someone meets you too. Also, it's like your writing is so brutal.
This one in particular.
He's such a nice guy. It's like, when someone meets you, they're like, What the fuck is going on behind those eyes?
Uh-huh, I worry about that with them, I don't spend too much time worrying about it. Our kids, parents, kids, friends, parents, that sort of thing, like, Did you read this book? It was a little disturbing.
Maybe our kids shouldn't play over there type of a thing. Oh, really well, I don't know, but that's kind of what I think about. If I was someone else's parent and was to read this and not know me, never having met me. And all of a sudden you read this thing, like, maybe our son or daughter should find another friend.
I would worry about that more in California. Yeah, in California, what are we drinking here?
What is this? All right right here? Cheers, cheers.
Thank you so much for everything my pleasure brother, amazing.
Look at this the official Jack Carr leather-colored whiskey glasses.
There it is, there it is, the whiskey glasses. people are very fond of their whiskey.
And who made this whiskey? It's not bad, it's very good.
Here we go, so this is Hooten Young right there, okay, so some veterans.
Jack Carr Edition.
Yep, Jack Carr edition right here. And so there's both veterans. But Norm Hooten was played by Eric Bana in Black Hawk Down. So he was a Delta operator who's now out makes cigars.
Oh nice.
I'll show you here in a second.
Oh, makes cigars, too.
Yep, cigars and this whiskey and I put them in the show, in the terminal list. So when Chris Pratt's there drinking with Boozer in that first episode, I put a little Hooten young on there. And there's no product placement in the show, in the books.
People think that that's a huge thing, and in a lot of Hollywood, I think it is. If someone's like, let me open this tab, you know, back in 1985 or whatever, but there's none of that, it's all just character development tools.
And so I want to try to hook up whoever I can. And these guys put in so much time and service to this nation. So it's right on the counter there in that first episode.
But that's the best kind of product placement.
Yeah, and it helps develop the exactly. There's no and no one pays to get in any of these, which is quite....
I didn't know how I was going to work with Hollywood, it was my first time down that road.
Yeah.
And I didn't think they were going to say, Hey, you know what, you have this? And I know it's important and I know who the guys are. But how about this company? They're paying us, so let's put that in there instead. And it wasn't like that at all, which was pretty cool.
And I think it's all because Chris Antoine Fuqua and the showrunner just held the line and said, Hey, no. We're just going to use these things and make it organic and authentic, and root this whole thing in the foundation of operator culture.
It also probably helps that you guys are on Amazon too, which is like a fairly new platform. Yeah, and in terms of like, streaming and things, it's only like the last decade or so, right?
Netflix had a little head start, yeah.
As opposed to something like NBC or CBS or ABC, which is like, probably standard operational procedure, right to like, have people pay to put coca-cola on.
Right, because they need to make money, however they can, because now they're in competition with Amazon and with Netflix.
They're going to come to you with Bud light, you guys can fix Bud light.
I saw a new one today. Did you see the Miller Lite one today? Yeah.
Like, just no one learned, does no one learn.
I mean, and they were taking all those ads that we love from the 80s and they were just putting them in. Shredders like that was their campaign today. I saw it this morning.
This is so stupid.
I mean, I don't know, but once again,-.
There's something wrong also, it's making. There's something wrong with women wearing bikinis. Those women wear bikinis because they look great, they like to look great, they take photos of them looking great.
The girls see those photos of them in bikinis, they get excited. Look, I look great, people buy it. Wow, she looks great.
It's not bad to look great, it's just like it's not bad for a guy to have his shirt off. Chris Pratt has his shirt off and he's looking ripped. It's not objectifying, I mean, I guess it is, but it's not negative.
It's not negative.
It's selling movie tickets right there.
That ad is so weird, isn't it strange? You want to watch it? Let's watch it, let's watch it so we can goof off.
Oh boy, here we go. I couldn't believe it this morning. They don't learn.
No one learns.
Well, it's just in general, I think it's kind of those taking lessons from the past and applying them going forward as wisdom.
How about lessons from a week ago?
I know it's not even the past, it's like a couple of days ago.
The only thing that saves it is like, maybe they spent a lot of money on it and they filmed it six months ago. Is that possible?
Yeah, I've already seen it, there's an article from two months ago. Still, you could put a pause on that.
Oh, it came out two months ago, at least two months ago, okay, so it came out before the bullshit, right? Was that about the same time as the bullshit with Millard?
They just saw it this morning.
This says it was in honor of Women's History Month is what they put it out. So I'm like, as I saw it today, I was like, maybe there's a reason they made this and we just started seeing that, but it's also crazy.
They want to shred all the good-looking pictures from the 80s, and they're buying it back. That was part of the thing they're buying back, all those old ads that people have, I guess, in their garage wall. That's what it said in this thing that I saw this morning.
Oh god.
MULCH Yeah, that's it. First to brew beer ever. From Mesopotamia to the Middle Ages to colonial America.
They're saying women brewed beer.
They said they were the first women, were the ones doing the brewing. Centuries later. how did the industry pay homage to the founding mothers of beer? They put us in bikinis with awesome pictures like that.
Is how-.
She looks hot.
Yeah, I mean, look at that, those are great ads, those are great ads. Quiet.
It's time beer made it up to women. So today, Miller Lite is on a mission to clean up after their shit no beer industry. Miller Lite's on a mission to make sure no one buys their stuff. Miller Lite has been scouring the internet for all this shit and buying it back.
So that they can turn it into good shit for women brewers.
They're scouring the internet and buying it back. Ladies, take it away.
Because that's easy to do once you get an image up there on the internet.
So what is she saying? Keep compost to warmth.
Push it out.
Beautiful fertilizer.
Interesting, that good shit helps farmers grow quality hops, yeah.
Which has been donated to women brewers to make their own really good shit.
But there's definitely more shit out there, in your attic, in the garage, in your parents basement. Send any shit you got into Miller Lite and they'll turn that into good shit, too.
Oh so, here's to women, because without us, there would be no beer. Wow.
I hate identity politics with a passion. I really do. It's pretty interesting. It's so stupid. Oh my Lord.
It's that human beings made beer okay, and some human beings look good in bikinis. It's like, what are we doing?
It's crazy.
Women do it, women do it, women do it. It's pretty wild. I'd like to see a pie chart of how many women are actually involved in making beer or drinking beer.
Well, now I want to hold on to all those posters from Miller Lite that I have from the 80s in my garage. I'm going to turn that stuff in, it's going to be worth a lot more now.
Do you have some? No.
Imagine I wish I did all those years.
This is it Miller Lite ads are the shit.
Yeah, did you wake up? No, that was crazy to wake up. I didn't even get to see that this morning.
Does paper turn into compost? Is that how it works? I mean, isn't it a bunch of chemicals and shit?
Are they lying to us?
Why would something like that just get resurfaced on like a Monday and not everyone's talking?
About it.
Because people are angry, they're looking to be angry. It's been out for two months, that's what I mean, it's been out for two months.
We didn't see it before that. I think the bud light thing was probably so overwhelming that no one paid attention to anything else. Yeah, and now that, that's kind of died down.
Yeah.
It's all so stupid.
Well, since we're on alcohol and we're on all that stuff, let me do this so I don't forget, because this is pretty amazing here. I know you like cigars, and as do I this right here, so these cigars right here. Hoot and young, the guys that we just talked to about, this whiskey, that Jack Carr edition right there, oh wow.
Look at the label.
This is pretty cool. So what they did? They called me and I was kind of like, a million things going on. And I pick up. And they started to talk to me about this and it gave me goosebumps. And this right here is World Trade Center Steel.
Whoa?
Yeah, World Trade Center Steel. The guys that put this together aren't just hoot and young, aren't just norm hoot. And there's some. I'm going to call them two army rangers and a special forces guy. But we can talk more about them. Just incredible human beings who have sacrificed so much for this nation.
And so they did this, and then he kept talking to me and he said, Under these cigars, under each one right here. So if I pull one of these out, you can see that there is some dirt under each one of these right here. And it's laminated in there over the top, so there's dirt and there's a little laminate over it. And each one of these comes from a special place and right here. D-Day INVASION Sacred sand recovered from Omaha Beach in Normandy, largest amphibious invasion in history.
So they have that there. Iranian hostage Crisis April 24th, 1980 Operation Eagle Claw. So that's when they went in to try to rescue the American hostages in Iran, Tehran, and they landed at a place called Desert. One. One of the refueling birds hit one of the...or one of the refueling C-130s hit one of the helicopters and there was an explosion and people died. And they had to abort the mission. They didn't have enough helicopters to keep going, so they brought dirt back from that.
There is not much dirt that they brought back, but there is some in here. And Battle of Mogadishu, October 3rd to 4th, 1993 Operation Gothic Serpent Sand smuggled from the Black Hawk Down crash site in Mogadishu, Somalia. World Trade Center Attack, Operation Enduring Freedom, Steel right here, and Saddam Hussein Operation Iraqi Freedom from March 20th, 2003..
So there is dirt from some amazing dates in special operations and military history in here. And each one of these cigars, you can tell, right here has...there you go right here, you right there.
So.
Wow.
Yeah, that's incredible.
Amazing, yeah, Hooton Young. And then some guys that are out there at the tip of the spear that have access to this dirt. From places like Operation Eagle Claw Desert, one outside of Tehran, Iran is in here.
Wow, put that back in. We're going to save these for some special occasion. There we go, that's amazing.
So I was blown away. So they made one for you, made one for me. And so we're the only two people to have these. That's very cool. Yeah, operator's cigars right there.
And there you are, wow, Hooton Young across Tomahawks, right there.
Yeah.
Pretty amazing.
Very cool, yeah. Have you smoked one of these yet? Not yet.
Not yet. It arrived just hours before I got here. So pretty cool, pretty cool, that's very cool.
So thank you guys, Hooton Young and the guys at the tip of the Spear who put this together.
Thank you, that's incredible.
Yeah, wow, absolutely amazing. And this stuff launches, I think today you have to wait for the government.
There's all sorts of things you have to hop through, you know, before they approve it, yeah, before they approve it. And so this stuff, I think is launching tomorrow or today when this thing launches, but so that'll be out there.
And what's crazy is you have to go through these patent things, so not like trademark stuff, you know, with attorneys and things, and there's different little categories if you want to patent. The cross Tomahawks. So I have lawyers doing all that. And part of that's whiskey, and so they did the whiskey one.
And like, right away, the Jack Daniels lawyers boom right on it, like, they are very aggressive when it comes to any whiskey that has Jack in it. Even though it's obviously a different label, a different style bottle, different, you know, no connection.
They get upset at the name Jack, Yeah, Jack Carr. Yep, yeah.
Don't they just look at it and go, Oh, that's the author.
Well, come on Jack Daniels. Seriously, Jack Daniels has done so much for America.
We love you Jack Daniels.
We love Jack Daniels, I know, seriously, but it's, but they're very good. They did something with, they had, like a dog poop thing that was out there with Jack Daniels on it or something like that.
You can look that up, but it was a big thing. I think it went to the Supreme Court recently. So point being, they're very aggressive, we do love Jack Daniels, but their lawyers get a little aggressive and juxtapose that. Because while you're doing this, yeah, there it is.
Right there.
Whiskey and poop thing dog toy meet in a trademark clash. Oh boy, that's lawyers, that's just lawyers. Got a bunch of people that probably work for the firm and they're like, Oh, this is an.
Opportunity get on the board. Yeah, they get very aggressive, but you juxtapose that. So there's also car wine, and so we happen to drink a lot of that in our household.
Just you know.
My dog has one of those, really. Yes, Marshall has one of those. He's got a fake Jack Daniels.
As a matter of fact, there might be a photo of him with it on his Instagram page. My Dog's Instagram has like 750,000 followers.
Slowing up.
He's so handsome.
That is awesome, that is awesome.
I'm pretty sure in one of his photos, he's got a rubber bottle of Jack Daniels.
That might have spurred this whole lawsuit.
I wonder.
Point being, there's also car wine.
There he is.
There it is, right there. Look at that. Oh, look at that. That is a great shot. So they should be excited.
That's his best position. his favorite position is cuddling. When you watch TV, he hops on board and just puts his head on your chest. He's the best.
We do love Jack Daniels. They do so much for the military.
It's not them, it's some lawyers, some dipshits. Also, Jack Daniels has been around for, like, what 100 years plus?
A long time. How long have they been around?
So it's not really Jack Daniels, it's people that assume a position at Jack Daniels and go after dog toys.
And anything with Jack in the title anyway. So hopefully we can work through that. But different than the lawyers for car wine, so same situation, you have to do wine as separate than liquor.
And that sort of thing with trademarks and all that. And so Car Wine reaches out. But they're like, Hey, excuse us, we're big fans, but I love what Jack's doing.
But what do you guys plan on doing with this wine? And it's really just kind of a series of things you just do when you apply for a trademark, just to cover things. And they were awesome and I was like, these guys are so fun, we drink their wine anyway.
I've been drinking it for years.
I've been drinking their wine that if they were uncomfortable with it, I'll just change it up, just whatever they wanted. It'll be totally different anyway, but I'll show it to them first.
So I told the attorneys, like, just tell them all, whatever, we'll have some wine together.
So is the company named Car Wine.
Yes, there's car wine, car vineyards, maybe in Northern California, I think, and they're out there in all the grocery stores, and they're pretty big, but they're good, good, solid wine.
But they were cool about it.
Yeah, super cool, yeah. Their lawyers reached out, but it's the same situation. But you can be cool, or you can not be cool, be cool, like Fonzie.
Just be cool, like Fonzie, how hard is this?
Well, it's lawyers, I mean, it's also that's their job. I mean, it's like the scorpion and the frog, it's in my nature.
And they're there to protect, so I do get it, but that's OK, but you still have to be nice about it.
Yeah, well, hopefully this podcast will maybe lube the gears a little bit.
Yeah, maybe be cool, you know.
So are you Guys? Is season two? It's on hold now because of the writer's strike.
Well, working on the scripts.
Are you allowed to work on the scripts?
No, I mean, I'm not part of the guild yet. I would be after this one because I'm writing the finale. But out of respect for what they have going on, I'm not. Pencil's down on it too.
So all the writers that are part of the WGA Pencil's down on all their projects right now.
So the writer's guild is only television and film, it has nothing to do with authors.
Nothing to do with the publishing industry as far as books and Simon Schuster and all that stuff. And same thing with video games, I learned video games because there are writers for these video games. And so that's not part of it either. So people can work on that stuff.
But it's the television and film.
And is the main dispute streaming? Is that what's going on?
Streaming has been a long time coming, so that was coming to a head anyway, and they probably should have negotiated, or not they should have. But it's been a long time in the works, just because things have changed so much since the last writer's strike when it comes to streaming. But right when that comes to a head, AI hits the news this January.
Of course, AI with Chat, GPT and all that stuff and people are putting it. As you've seen, people can just say, hey, write a show about X, Y or Z, and it pops out, not bad. Do a little editing off, it goes, and you don't have to pay a writer's room.
So if you're an executive and you're beholden to, I guess, shareholders, or whatever it is, maybe that's attractive, but not so attractive to those people who make their living. Coming up with a show, coming up with his ideas in a writer's room, and then making all this money. Essentially, the foundation of everything that we see in film and television happens in those writer's rooms.
It happens from these creators, and a lot of them, it's not huge money they're making anyway. But it's just how do you deal with streaming and how do we deal with AI? And we'll see.
What is the solution to the AI problem? Because we're dealing with Chat GPT 4 now and as Chat GPT 5, 6, and 7 roll out. I would imagine they're going to be able to write in the style of Jack Carr and write a perfect James Reese novel.
Maybe eventually somebody did that right. When it came out, I think in January, I got a text and I said, check your email, this is what I just screenshot of Chat GPT.
I said, write the first novel, the first chapter in the next Jack Carr James Reese Terminalist thing, and it wasn't great. But in five years, it probably will be.
Right? And even if it's not great, it maybe is a scaffolding for an actual writer to go in and put some real flair to it. Exactly, this new book is really good. I'm in, like I said, I think I'm on chapter 24 or 25..
And you're writing. I liked how your shift, you switch your styles up a little bit. Yeah, you know, like there's like new elements to the way you do things like, I don't want to give anything away. But when Reese is incarcerated, yeah.
There's like, there's something to the way you're doing it differently, it's interesting.
Because you don't have the same novel. Every time you pick somebody up and he's a carbon cutout and you drop him now in Europe, now he's getting revenge.
Now he's in Africa, getting revenge, now he's in China. So I wanted to avoid that, and that was right out of the gate. I was cognizant of that being something that could be an issue.
If you have a success, just kind of copy that, and I never wanted to do that. I always want to evolve, just like anything else in life, like in the Seal teams. My whole mission was to be a better operator and a better leader today than I was yesterday.
Personal front, be a better husband and father than I was yesterday, and for writing, be a better author for the next book than I was for this one. I want my next sentence to be better than the sentence before, so it's so this one, James Reese is on a journey. And that's one of the one things that we have in common.
Just with everyone else on this planet, we're all on a journey. There's no, no matter your race, your religion, your socioeconomic background, you're on a journey. And you don't know how much time you have on this planet. You get one ride and so got to make it count.
So people are trusting me with that time, which is something I take extremely seriously. So as much thought goes into any Instagram post or blog or question for a guest on my podcast, or whatever it is. As goes into any sentence in the novel. And I want to always improve on that craft every single time. So James Reese is on this journey. He's not the same guy he was in the first book, not the same guy was in the third.
And he's not the same guy he is in the sixth one. He's evolving, he's learning, taking those past successes and failures, and taking those lessons and applying them forward. Hopefully, it's wisdom.
Hopefully we're all doing that, except for Bud Light and Miller Light, apparently.
They'll learn, too.
They need to read these novels, perhaps.
They're only down 21, no big deal.
And that's more than a rounding error, that's more than a rounding error.
That's a real number.
That's tough to come back from.
What's interesting now is gay bars are now boycotting them because they didn't back up. Dylan Mulvaney.
I saw they can't win, they just waded into this thing. It's like an L ambush, you walk in and you're getting hit from all sides and you're kind of cover up.
And then they did that one post, they put their first one, after that they put the bud light can, and they said TGIF question mark.
But what they should have done?
They should have laid low.
Well, they could lay low and hope that somebody else messes up, like Miller Light here a few weeks later, even though it was before.
The Miller Light one is very mild.
It's pretty mild, but it's kind of a.
It's just silly.
You're also attacking women, you're attacking these girls that are fitness models. There's nothing wrong with being a fitness model, just like there's nothing wrong with being a male fitness influencer. One of those guys that does a lot of posts on lifting, weights and technique and they're shirtless.
They look jacked. There's nothing wrong with that, there's nothing wrong with being a beautiful woman who makes a living taking photographs with beer.
No guys that drink Miller light like that.
But it's this narrow view of what a woman is supposed to be, that a woman is only supposed to be a lady. Who's succeeding and killing it in the corporate world. Why?
I saw another one that was similar to that, they said. Why are we vilifying women that stay home and raise kids and handle the household and that sort of thing? But celebrating the men pretending to be women who stay home and do the same thing, it's kind of like that juxtaposition. Those dichotomies are interesting.
Particularly in the way they dress. Because one of the things about trans people is that you'll celebrate the most stereotypical image of what a woman is like. Short skirts and a lot of makeup, and fake eyelashes and elbow high gloves, and the whole deal, it's a caricature, it's drag.
What is drag? It's the most ridiculous version of what a woman is, and it's celebrated, but an actual woman like that is disparaged.
We live in interesting times, and I think of Bud Light. Remember that scene from the hangover where Bradley Cooper? They pull over to the side and he's on the road, they're all beat up and he's covered in dust and everything.
And he takes that phone call and he's like, Man, we fucked up. If they just played that clip, that ten second clip, just put that up, just put it up.
And people would have been like, Okay, alright, everybody screws up, everybody messes up. We're all trying to navigate this kind of new world, and we're all trying to do the best we can.
I went on a Bud Light tour back in 2007.
Me and Charlie Murphy and John Heffron, we went on a real men of comedy bud Light tour, Nice.
Like, real men of genius or whatever that was.
The guy from Survivor was with us.
Jeff Probst.
No, no, no, no, the band, it's the eye of the Tiger, because those were the guys that would sing the song, Real Men of genius.
I do remember those.
Funny ads, and those guys did those ads in front of the audience, no way. So it was like, Yeah, it was a fun tour. And that gentleman has passed away.
The Survivor Guy, I believe so I was in the lead singer of Survivor, didn't he pass away.
Super fucking cool guy, though. what a hell of a voice, too, dang, yeah. So we get to hang out with those guys and travel the country with them for a month, that's awesome.
Yeah, we did like 22 dates and I got to become friends with Charlie and Heffron and we traveled around. And that was when Bud Light embraced this humorous, like sort of dopey man version of you know, beer, which is like, what everybody likes. Do you know, Shane Gillis?
One of the best comics in the country, fucking top shelf.
If I saw it, I'd know it.
He's a new guy coming up. But anyway, he drinks Bud light, and he's in a dilemma because he'll drink Bud light on the podcast. And we've had podcasts where he drank 16 Bud Lights 16 in three hours.
He's a big boy. Wow, big fella. It's all relative, he can put them down.
Yeah.
It's all relative.
He can throw down some fucking beer, that's amazing, though.
Even how big you are, that's pretty serious. I don't even know the fluid. How many did you do, were you joining in?
I just can't keep up with that, I'm 6 7 in, I'm done 6 7, I can't stop.
That's pretty good, though. Three hours, yeah, the peeing thing.
But Bud Light is a light beer. It's only like, what is the percentage of alcohol? 5? Yeah.
It's light, it's a lot like water.
Yeah, it's for people who like to drink all day long.
You can hydrate with it.
Yeah, you don't have to worry about it, you can hydrate with it. yeah, you don't have to worry about it.
You get a nice little buzz, you hydrate, it's not offensive tasting.
No, now it's just offensive.
Yeah, well, it's just one ad campaign. It's just so dumb. And the lady behind it was just talking about the fratty sense of humor, like, What are you going to do?
Are you going to replace it with this fucking mentally ill person I know?
It's tough, they had it winning.
They had it winning campaign going for decades. It worked.
Yeah, they should have gone back to another real Men of genius. Listen, you can make fun of men hardcore in those ads and we'll laugh along with you, absolutely.
It's like it would have been fine, yeah, and they would have got people to buy Bud Light, which you got the opposite, you got the opposite.
Now the gay folks don't want it, the trans folks don't want it, nobody wants it.
Everybody's mad at you, it's tough.
They're saying, I've read this story where this bar owner was saying that he had to stop carrying it because people were attacking people that were drinking it. Oh my gosh, so people that were like, Ah, fuck it, I don't care, I'm not involved in this.
What are you fucking Communist people just beating people's asses for having bud light? They were having fights at the bars.
It's so sad. And who are they owned by now? aren't they owned by some international corporation at this point?
I believe, so, yeah, yeah. Are they owned by a Chinese corporation? I wouldn't be surprised.
Who owns Bud Light?
I think somebody in Europe.
Yeah, who owns Anheuser-Busch? Let's find out who owns Anheuser-Busch.
I think it's a European company, isn't it?
Maybe.
But uh.
Whenever something's bad, I blame it on China.
Yeah, those headlights, like those lights that you got, you know?
Oh, the ones from my land cruiser, those actually were from China. Yeah, they were a little cool, they just died.
They got water in them somehow. Or another, like, How do you fucking? it's a fucking land cruiser? I mean, come on, how are they not sealed?
A company called Inbev bought it.
I've never heard of that.
And what's inbev?
I don't know, it's tied to the Communists.
I want to short them right now, I want to call my broker. I got a feeling this is going to keep going. Belgium Multinational.
Belgium.
Yeah, let's manipulate some markets right now.
Yeah, I think you could.
Let's take a break, though. Let me make a couple calls.
So we have this podcast that we do called Protect Our Parks, that I do with Shane Gillis and Ari Shaffir and Mark Norman. And we get hammered, like most of the time, and we're trying to figure out what's the least woke beer to drink. And Mark Norman, said. Colt, 45. And I think he's right, is he?
Well, who owns it? We got to look it up, you don't know.
I don't know, but Colt 45 like that is the least woke advertising campaign.
It was, I remember growing up. Those commercials were fantastic.
Malt liquor Yeah, I mean, that stuff is what is the alcohol percentage of that? That stuff is brutal.
It's more than bud light, yeah, a lot more.
That stuff's rough, that's not even real beer, it's malt liquor, it's 5.6 malt liquor is.
Well, Colt, 45 is, according to Wikipedia.
Really.
What about old English?
Ultimately, it's a psyop psychological operation, you just think it is.
Something else in there, maybe.
But they're saving it, maybe.
Old English 800 is just slightly well, it ranges, it ranges from 5.9 to 8. Maybe we need, well. I would say Canada is the wokest fucking place on Earth right now. I would have said, go with Canadian beer, because Canadian beer is like, 9. Yeah, they have triple X stuff.
Yeah, they get hammered up.
Oh, nice, they go hard.
It gets cold.
It's really cold. You got to do something, you got to do something up there.
They locked themselves in and get fucking blasted.
You got to do something up there. Someone was talking about Canada and food the other day, you don't hear about somebody saying they want to go out and have a nice Canadian meal.
Andrew Schultz Was that it? Oh my God, let's play that bit. Andrew Schultz is big on food.
Did I see that on yours?
Where did I see that? I saw that somewhere, maybe we played it here.
Fucking genius. He does a bit about countries that suppress their women, that's it, that's about how horrible it is to suppress women.
That's it.
It's a fucking great bit, see if you can find it.
Okay, so I do know that guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I saw. Yeah, yeah.
This is such a good bit.
It's pretty clever.
This is such a bit. There's a lot of countries in the world that treat women like shit.
That's fucked up, but they got the best food.
That's undeniable, right?
The more a country's like stay in the kitchen, the better the food comes out of the kitchen.
Right, it does.
It comes out more delicious that way.
Have you ever eaten food from a country where the women are equal?
Oh, get the fuck.
Get it away.
Get away.
What is that equality cuisine?
Move it, move it.
Move.
Move, move, move, move. You know what we should do for dinner tonight?
Canadian never been said.
Never once, that's it.
Canada treats their women equally.
Their food is fucking dog shit, it's disgusting.
Canadian bacon.
Kill yourself. If you like Canadian bacon. What is this coaster of ham? What am I looking at? I actually like Canadian bacon.
Yeah, Canadian bacon. That maybe wasn't the best analogy.
I know what he was doing there, but it's a funny joke, it is, it is. it's a great joke. But no one has said, let's go eat Canadian, No.
I mean, I don't even know what that means.
I don't know what it means either.
Poutine, I think, is all I.
Poutine's good, I think that's French, though.
Yeah, that's over from that, that's more east.
Yeah, that's Montreal.
Yeah, I've never seen a good restaurant in Montreal.
Poutine's pretty bomb diggity. Yeah, they had smoked meat. Actually, Canada has some good food.
Who's the hunter that has his place up in Montreal?
MICHAeL HUNter Yeah, yeah, no, it's Toronto.
Toronto Okay.
I have his cookbook, Antler, Yeah, yeah.
I have his cookbook.
That's the guy that when the vegans were angry, he butchered a deer in front of the window.
Mm-hmm. was he on the podcast?
Yes.
Yes, I've met him before as well, super nice guy, very nice guy. You don't think that he would do, just having talked to him, you wouldn't think that his mind would just go there to do that.
That was pretty legit.
Well, it was a smart move, got him on the podcast, got him famous. I mean, take advantage of me. These people are making it uncomfortable for people to go to his business just because they have an idea of what you should and shouldn't eat.
And if someone confronted them? Unless you are growing your own vegetables and you know exactly what happens, you are responsible for animal death. 100. I mean, there's a crazy video of this combine going through a field and it goes to this patch of.
I guess it's probably corn or something like that, and 13 deer run out of there. You know how many of those fawns get chewed up, you know how many rabbits, rabbits?
Yeah, is a life? a life, because I'll tell you what, you lose a lot of life for a pound of grain, no matter what.
Poisoning pesticides, herbicides. This idea that you're going to have some zero karma, no worry at all. Vegetable dinner. Fuck off, you're not.
Or again, just getting the things to getting your like the organic paper towels or whatever they have. You know, they have those things, just getting those to the store, you know. Because of the cost of the country, the amount of insects that hit the windshield. And who is Steve? Rinella has that thing, right.
Doesn't have the pyramid of things like fish. Nobody cares that whole deal.
I had a post that I did on Instagram way back in the day, called the hierarchy of dead animals on social media. That's it, that's it. So I said, like, if you catch a fish, no one's upset at you. And then I showed a picture of me with a dead turkey, like crossing into a weird area, but nobody cares.
And then I had a package of bear meat, right? just a package, just meat. It just said, bear meat. And it's like you can get away with a lot.
You do it in a sneaky way. Yeah, there's bear meat.
And that's okay, that was okay, right? Not not too many people hating, yeah.
Hierarchy of dead animals on social media. Yeah, yeah.
That when did you put? May 1st, 2015?
Gosh, eight years ago, eight years ago. Amazing. Yeah, yeah.
That was probably the last time I hunted bears, was it? Yeah, I haven't been up there in a while. Well, there was the pandemic and, you know, and then, you know, you couldn't get up there for a while.
Yeah, now I'm just angry at Canada.
Yeah, they invite. Yeah, it's a rivetson. They've been in touch and want to try to get me up there and I'd love to get up there.
It's a crazy spot.
They have so many bears up there and anyone that thinks that somehow another bear is like, they're a protected species. Listen, go to Canada, go to Alberta and go wander around the woods. there are so many goddamn bears, yeah.
They have to kill bears. yeah, their deer population, their moose population. all depends on it. They are overrun with bears, yeah.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
When we were up there, there's bear cannibalism. Yeah, John, one of the guys that was Jonathan, one of the sons of the Rivets. He saw a bear, a male bear. The boar attacked a female and was trying to get to her cubs, killed one of her cubs. The female chased the bear off, and then the female ate her own cub. Wow.
Yeah, you know, these aren't teddy bears, they're edible monsters.
Yeah, did you post a picture of your bear at one point? And that's where the hatred, there's a lot of hate.
Oh, I got a lot of hate for it. Yeah, they posted it.
I didn't post it.
Alaskan Monsters Bears go at it longest, most intense, grizzly bear fight he's seen. Did you miss it? No, I've not seen it. I'm guessing by your reaction, you did not see this.
This is a few days ago, it's a crazy fight, this is a few days ago here.
This is an intense fight. Is this new? Yeah, it's pretty new. Oh, I haven't seen this one May 11th this year.
I mean, we could go into it, I don't....
Look at that thing, oh my gosh, that is incredible.
That's nature's cleanup crew, ladies and gentlemen, anything that fucks up gets eaten by this 2,000 pound monster.
Here comes this guy.
Dude, this is going to happen dangerously close to us.
Oh boy, here we go.
Look how beautiful they are.
Look at the color on those things.
Gosh.
Look at that badger.
Yeah.
People will say it's CGI.
That's incredible.
Weird life they have.
Look at that, I mean, that looks pretty evenly matched at this point.
Yeah, they're both the same size.
I mean, it's.
They're just biting each other's faces.
He's been training harder. Fuck man, oh.
They do a lot of jiu-jitsu, though. Look, look right there there's a little grampy roll.
There it is, oh, going for the back, he's got it in the back, he's been watching UFC. Oh, look at that.
Yeah, he's just biting, biting chunks out of his back.
That guy's trying to get away now, he's trying to. They're thick too late.
Their skin is so thick and they're covered in fat. He was like, Oh my gosh, that's just annoying, like, broke it off me.
Wow, I will say this goes on and on and on. How long do you want to watch this? Wow, this is a good fight.
This is pretty good. Oh, look at this.
Oh, really good attention.
Oh my gosh.
I like how the other bear just keeps moving, though, that's good. Oh, he's trying to. I like his technique.
Oh, there he goes, okay?
Guy's still got his back, but he's rolling. oh, he's pulled guard trying to get him off of him. Oh my gosh.
That is.
That one better run, that one better just get on those getaway sticks.
I don't know, I feel like he's going to the other guy's going to gas out. Yeah, we're good, we're good.
I'm watching.
Oh my gosh.
Because the guy's wasting all his time biting him in the back.
Yeah, maybe he's going for like the spine or like....
Nah, no, it's not really going to happen. No, I don't think anyone dies in this fight.
Oh, really, it's just an intense fight, it's a crazy fight. Well, you know who got the best bear fight footage before?
This was Grizzly man, Oh yeah, which is one of my favorite all-time comedies.
I haven't.
It's the best. I haven't watched it, you haven't watched it. No, I keep meaning to.
I haven't watched it, but I know that.
Oh my God, have a cocktail and watch Grizzly Man. It is the best unintentional comedy that's ever been made, and I wonder if it's unintentional because Werner Herzog's a genius.
Yeah, yeah, and he's made so many amazing films and that, to me, is my favorite of his films. Yeah, and there's so many moments that just are laugh-out-loud.
Funny, like there's one where there's a sheriff and he's talking about, like, finding the body and the fact this guy was camping with him. Tell me about that. And the sheriff looks at the camera and goes, I thought he was retarded.
It's like the way he says it.
You know that?
And then he cut, There's a smash cut and like,....
The bear guy always gets eaten by the bear. The shark guy ends up getting eaten by the shark. The rattlesnake guy gets it end up getting bit by the rattlesnake.
What's happening with these? Trailer? Oh for grizzly man, Yeah, that poor guy. well, that guy was very, very funny.
Very, very sad. He was a sad guy and he had this idea that he was protecting them. But he just doesn't even understand, he doesn't understand wildlife conservation.
That's so brutal. If a lion guy gets eaten by the lion, it's always the way.
But this one's.
This is an amazing, brilliant tale of adventure and potential, madness and hilarious. Well, I think I feel like, genuinely, this story was suicide by Bear.
Yeah.
Because he stayed long after you're supposed to be there. Yeah, he stayed after the animals were in hibernation. He was very depressed and I think he kind of wanted to die, yeah.
I really do, I just think this guy just was very sad.
That's tough.
And he very much seemed like an in-the-closet gay guy because he said a lot of crazy shit. He was walking around with a camera. He goes, I wish I was gay. If I was gay, it'd be so easy, I'd just find a guy and hook up, but I'm not gay.
I'm like, Are you sure there's so many layers to that film? Oh, really.
I'm going to have to watch it at some point, it's great.
It's a great documentary and also it highlights how majestic these animals are. They're so amazing, yeah.
And delicious, too, if you get the right ones, eating the right stuff.
I've never eaten a brown bear.
No, I have not eaten a brown bear.
But black bears are very good.
You've eaten the blueberries, just munching on those blueberries.
I haven't had that, yeah, but Ronel says it's some of the best meat he's ever eaten. It is, it is.
What's interesting is that settlers in America in the pioneer days, they preferred bear meat, and they shot deer for their skins.
Oh, interesting.
That's why, like, a buck, do you know what? a buck? yep, a buck, deer, it's a dollar, because that was what it was worth.
Yep, one of those deer skins was worth a dollar, so they called it a buck. Yep, yeah, which is kind of crazy.
Back then, that's a lot of money.
Oh my god, back then, a dollar was a lot of money.
You'd get 20 of those, 30 of those, 50 of those, 100 of those.
You're fucking balling, yeah, you know, the richest guy in the world, at one point in time was a beaver pelt salesman. I believe it in America.
I believe it.
Yeah, there was a time and it was just like the stock market, you had ups and downs in the markets for those things. Did you see that recent? I think it was in Kenya.
I think I just saw it, maybe yesterday, the day before, but the villagers out there killed a lion, an old lion, and it made the news. But not so much in the way that some of the others have, because this lion was eating some of their livestock. And they're like, Oh, guess what, this is killing our livestock.
That's how we survive. Yeah, so we're going to kill it. So they did, and of course, you know, and ask more questions about, well, why?
And why is there not hunting here, and if there was hunting, would that animal have had value? And then would there be incentive to keep those populations at a certain level and apply the science to it and make sure. But there's none of that, they just kill it.
And that's how it goes, because these things are killing your livestock that you feed your family with. So it wasn't long for this earth.
That happens with elephants, with crops.
Yeah, oh, they destroy a bunch of crops over there, so what they do? They kill them.
They have no idea what a farm is.
They're not worried, they're not worried, it's just free food, they just go through. I've seen those videos, those pictures.
But that's the problem about not putting the requisite time, energy and effort into studying an issue, no matter what that issue is. And just making a snap decision based on something that someone with a lot of followers puts out there all of a sudden, that's your position as well. Rather than, Hmm, let me just do some study here, let me think about this a little more.
Yeah.
And now I'll make my decision.
What's sort of like a woman attacking women for wearing bikinis? It's like, let's talk about this, okay?
You're ruining it for everyone.
There's something wrong with that, and also there's the thing about wildlife conservation that's very uncomfortable, and what's uncomfortable is that it really bothers us. That the only way animals really have value in terms of these wild populations of antelope and gazelles and all these different things. They hunt in Africa, the way they've made them thrive is by putting value on them to hunt them, and that bothers people a lot.
It does, and I get it, yeah, I get why it would. I mean, it would be nice if all these people that were animal conservationists spent as much money as hunters.
Yeah, but it doesn't happen that way.
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