#2149 - Sebastian Maniscalco
2024-05-10 02:15:49
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Hello, Sebastian.
What, Joe?
It's my first time here at the Austin property.
Yes.
And, first of all, most comfortable chair I've ever sat. They're great, right? I feel like when I come here, or when I come to this podcast, it's my third time on it, I feel like I'm in the future. Alright? I feel like you've got things that aren't even out yet, right?
I just feel like this chair, the general public can't even have access to it yet.
No, but they do. We've had these for years.
Whatever they are.
These are great.
Then, I feel like I've never drank water out of a.
We're sustainable here.
I feel like there's a reason for everything that you do.
There's definitely a reason for metal cups. You really shouldn't be drinking out of plastic.
Okay. Again.
I mean, I do. I drink a plastic water bottle. Someone gives me one, but I avoid them whenever I can.
Yeah, of course. We all know, oh, the plastics. I'm drinking out of plastic bottles myself, and I don't know. I don't see that much of a... Maybe.
Is this even real water? What kind of water is this?
It's filtered. What is it like? It's a super filter. Some crazy filter. Definitely a special machine that you can't even unplug.
You can't get this water outside this room. You can't get the water outside the room.
Good water, right?
It's very delicious.
And then you've got a whole.
. I don't know if anybody's ever talked about your area. On your side of the table.
Yeah.
There's just so much shit going on over there.
A lot going on.
There's tins.
There's mammoth teeth. I got an arrowhead, a legit arrowhead. It's probably 500,000 years old.
You got soil on your bookshelf out there.
Yes.
I've never seen anybody jar soil before.
Well, that was from a gentleman who runs White Oaks Pastures. His name is Will Harris. And he has this amazing farm. It's a regenerative farm. And he gave us two pieces of soil.
Two.
. Was that Carl barking? He wants a fight. He didn't get enough biting me this morning. One more.
Carl's getting hard, dude. He bit my finger. That was a real yipe. He bit me. this morning.
I was like, yo! Carl goes after you.
Yeah, he went after me.
But anyway, that soil, one of them is a jar of regenerative soil. Which means soil that is how a farm is supposed to be run. Where there's manure and chickens and all the animals just ruminate. And they live off the land in a natural way. And it's a deep, rich, dark soil.
And the other soil, which is pale, that's industrial soil. That's soil that's been used with industrial fertilizers. And the top soil's dead. And it's just garbage. Which is most of what we eat.
See, the difference between you and I is.
. You actually remember what the soil does. Somebody gave me soil. Somebody gave me soil. And you said you got soil?
Yeah, somebody gave me dirt. And I would know the difference between the two.
You see, the dark dirt is the good dirt. That's the real dirt. That's how dirt's supposed to look out in the wild. That's what we're supposed to be eating food from. Mineral, rich soil.
So you get healthy vegetables. Healthy animals.
That's beautiful that you have that on display. Yeah. And again, coming and taking a tour of this place is inspiring. You make me want to spend money.
You should spend money. You definitely should spend money. Because if you don't spend money, what's the point in having it?
I know. I wish I could get there.
Come on, bro. Look at that. watch. You're balling. Look at that thing.
My wife gave me this.
That's a beautiful watch. What is that?
It's a Cartier watch for our wedding.
That's gorgeous.
That's a pretty watch. That is a lovely watch.
Thank you, Joe. I appreciate it. She gave me this for our wedding gift.
Very nice.
Obviously.
She's got taste.
She does.
You handsome bastard.
She's got a lot more taste than I do.
I let my wife pick out almost everything. When I have nice sneakers on, generally my wife bought them.
Does your wife comment on your clothing?
She does. But she leaves me alone for the most part. But she'll dress me occasionally if I have to go out. But I'm basically a fucking teenager.
You have a t-shirt, a jean-shirt suit. I wear t-shirts.
They're comfortable. I wear jeans. I don't really give a fuck.
I don't think I've ever seen you in a suit.
I wear suits. I have some nice suits. I have a whole row in my office. I'm in my house. My closet is filled with suits.
I've got a bunch of custom-made suits. I can't wear regular suits. I don't fit in them. There's a lot of 200-pound, 5'8'' dudes. Very odd-shaped.
They don't make clothing.
Chimp sizes.
Short dudes are really wide.
But it's a nice fitted suit. It's a fucking wonderful thing to have because it just fits you. perfect. Cuffs and everything. You feel different.
You put it on. All the boys, we did a show in Vegas. We did the MGM, the Grand Garden Arena. We did me and Brian Simpson and Tony Hinchcliffe and Hans Kim. I got them all suits.
I said, we're doing Vegas. Let's do it Rat Pack style. We got these beautiful David August suits. Jamie got one too. It was incredible.
It was so much fun. It's nice. You feel different when you show up with a suit on.
You do feel different.
Look at that. That's us.
Sharp.
Everybody's looking sharp. Look at Jamie with the shades.
Come on.
Got the full Pulp Fiction ponytail going on.
Look at you.
Nice, right? I feel, though, with a suit. I've noticed this, as I've gained some weight in the midsection.
Wearing a suit is becoming extremely uncomfortable if you don't have a very tight body.
Right. If you get stuck around here, it binds you.
Tuck in the shirt. The buttons are hanging off.
I'm fluctuating in my weight where the suits I got right now I gotta work it.
You and me are both Italian. We just love our pasta.
It's a problem. Especially after you hit 50.. It seems to not go away.
It doesn't go away. The only way to go away is to not eat pasta. That's the only way. Not eat pasta and booze. If I cut way back on the booze and no pasta, my body just goes and shrivels back to normal.
I'm in the process of trying to get back.
It's so hard to avoid that food. The food is just like if it's in front of me, I just have a real problem.
You like to eat meat. Do you find that the meat is helping your?
physique?
Yeah, if I just eat meat. Yeah, definitely. Because meat is very satisfying. Meat has what's called a high satiety rate. Which means when you eat it, you get satisfied when your body's had enough.
I always say this. If you gave me a steak, just a steak, 16 ounce steak, I eat it, I'm good. I don't need anything else. But if there's a bowl of pasta next to that steak, I'm eating the pasta too. If there's some bread and butter, I'm gonna eat the bread and butter.
Somebody rolls out dessert, of course I'll have dessert. Next thing you know, I've consumed 1,500 extra calories that I didn't even really want or need. You just get addicted to just stuff in your face.
Just stuff.
If I don't leave like this, my stomach literally will distend out. Where I look at myself in the mirror, I'm disgusted. What have you eaten? Look at all the mass you've put in your body. Because if you looked at, if you keep your stomach right here, my normal stomach, but if you add that much food, which I'll consume, that much food, easy, it just goes right here.
You just look at you like,
you fat piece of shit.
You lazy, slovenly, greedy fuck. Look what you've eaten.
You sweat at night, when you sleep. I'm drenched.
I have a thing called an eight sleep mattress cover. I have one. They're fucking amazing. It's a game changer.
Do you crank that thing up to ten after you eat a meal like that to cool off the body?
No. Generally, if I'm sweating, it's because I'm having nightmares. I'll have some nightmares and I'll wake up drenched. Not in that thing. That thing, generally, I don't think I have woken up sweaty since I got it.
I always used to wake up sweaty. I would wake up on wet sheets.
I eat a rib eye at two o'clock in the morning. I get up and I'm like sweating. That never used to happen.
I don't remember what I have the eight sleep thing dialed into, but I got it right there at the sweet spot. I've tried it a little too cool, a little too warm, but now I got it right there. I sleep like a baby.
Do you have it heat up in the morning?
I think it does. I think it's on some sort of a cycle. I'm not exactly sure. I don't remember how I set it up, but there's a bunch of different options that you can do. You can even have a different option for you or your wife if she likes it warmer.
or cooler. It's nice.
It's been a game changer. It does make a big difference. Taking care of your sleep is... I've really prioritized that, especially recently because, owning the club and being out late. I was doing two shows a night, which is also a lot.
It was too much. I was doing six hours of comedy a week, just doing three nights. Just doing Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, two shows a night. I was too tired. I was burnt out.
I wasn't getting the proper sleep because I'd get home, shows over, like 1230 or something like that. I'd get home, hanging out with the guys at the club. I'd get home at like 130 and then I'd start writing. I'd write from 130 to like 4 and then I'd have to get up at 10 to work out. I'm like, this is too much.
You're writing material in the dead of night? Yeah, that's what I write.
Wow. Yeah. I almost always find that I'm most productive when everyone in my house is asleep. I don't have to like, Dad, I don't have to think about anything. Did you do this?
Did you put that away? Where's the thing? I don't have to deal with anything. The dog's asleep. Everybody's cool.
I can just sit in front of that fucking computer and think. You know, and that's the only time that I have like free reign in my house where there's no one awake. So I get my best. And also I think you're jazzed up when you get off stage and if you just hold on to that, like your brain is already kind of in comedy mode. Your brain is already thinking.
Yeah. For me, I do a voice message. I record the set and I'll listen to it afterwards. But as far as like creating, I mean, I don't know. I feel like after 10 o'clock, the whole body shuts down.
And I got two small kids. So maybe that's why, you know,
they're up early.
But yeah, I mean, 9, 30, 10.
. And talk about the two shows. I mean, I used to do two shows with my eyes closed. And now it's like the second show. It's like, hey.
Are you taking vitamins?
I take supplements like multivitamin. I'm sure I don't have it dialed in.
as much as
it should be. But I just feel exhausted, Joe. I am tired. And I just constantly have to have sips of caffeine throughout the day to stay alive. That's where I'm at.
You look like you wake up, ready to go. I got this whole vision of what your day must look like. You must spring out of bed and go, give me it.
I don't talk about not having a suit on. I don't think. since I've known you, I've seen you, yawn.
I'm kidding, bro. You constantly look awake. What is it?
It's health. The water? It's all the above. Supplements, definitely. That's a big factor.
I take a lot of vitamins. I take athletic greens. That's one thing I take. But I take a whole suite of different vitamins. I take a bunch of different things, like vitamin D, vitamin K2..
I take things for eyesight. I take.
fish oil. I take creatine. I take a lot of stuff. I took.
three or four vitamins. once. I swallowed it with some water. I coughed and a puff of white smoke came out of my mouth.
Vitamin powder.
I think the body's rejecting the vitamins.
It's got to be a slow process. You don't want to dive right into the amount of vitamins. The amount of vitamins I take is like half of this coffee cup. Every day. You have like a whole cabinet that's filled with supplements.
When you travel, what do you carry? A suitcase of supplements?
I have a bag. Most of the time when I travel. there's a company called Pure Encapsulations. They make these packs.
They're great for travel. Very easy. You don't have to think about it. Just rip open the pack. Take those vitamins and you're good.
When I'm on the road, generally. You getting rid of Carl? Is he too rowdy? He's rowdy. He wants to bite me.
He's teething.
How cute is that dog?
I just bought a dog. Never a dog owner in my life. It's the first time I've ever had a dog. It's a Labradoodle.
It's extremely intelligent. But I don't think it likes me. I don't know. It's generally looking at me like, loves my wife, loves my kids.
It doesn't like you? I don't know.
It's not as excited to see me as maybe my wife and kids. Really? I'm just very perceptive.
Maybe he wants to meet a man. Is he the man of the house?
Well, he's becoming the man. Does he have balls? Yeah. Well, keep his balls. Don't.
No. That's what I think the dog trainer said. Just keep them.
Yeah. The whole idea is you don't want unnecessary puppies. Right. I agree. Don't let your dog breed.
But be with your fucking dog. But if you take your dog's balls off, now, your dog doesn't have any testosterone anymore. They develop hip problems and joint problems. They're tired all the time. Just like a man.
If you take his balls away, they become a eunuch. That's what you're doing to your dog. I've seen people do it and they're like. I wish I didn't do it. Andrew Huberman said that.
He started giving his dog testosterone because he got his dog fixed, and then his dog was listless all the time. He felt terrible. They started doing the research on it and looking into it. You need hormones. Dogs do it, just like people do.
It's terrible for them.
Yeah. We'll keep his nuts intact.
I had a vet that told me that. One vet. A great guy. He was like don't do it. Everybody says to do it.
You're not taking your dog somewhere and letting your dog breed with a bunch of different dogs and have puppies that are irresponsible. Your dog has a nice yard. You're a good dog owner. You're with him all the time. Don't worry about it.
Don't do it.
As long as you're paying attention to him.
The whole idea is just to not. People are irresponsible. I can't go to the dog pound. If I go to the dog pound, I will have 20 dogs. Yeah.
My dog's perfect. He's awesome. But I just I love dogs. I would have as many. Yeah.
I always had dogs. I would have as many dogs as I can. I love them. They're just pure love. And if you have a good relationship with your dogs, if your dogs love you and you love them, it's like every day I wake up and I say to my dog good morning, sir.
And he goes woo. He starts whimpering and whining and wagging his tail 50 miles an hour, and he goes around in circles and we hug it out and I kiss him and I rub his belly. It's like we have a morning ritual. I love dogs, man.
It's nice.
They change your life. They make your life filled with love. Cats are cool, but they're kind of aloof. They want to be pet and then they go away and they're cool. They just want to go outside and kill something.
Your dog is like your friend. He wants to hang out with you. I take him to work. He's like are we going to work? This is crazy.
We're going to work. Every day when I bring out the ball. I think he's going to be bored with the ball. I bring out the ball. Today.
he's like enough. Put the ball. But nope. Every day he's like the fucking.
ball. He's got the ball.
He's running around in circles, jumping up in the air, trying to steal the ball from me before I throw it. It's amazing.
Yeah. That's what I hear a lot of dog owners. You're not having that experience. Well, not yet. How old is he?
He's a puppy. He's like three months old. Just spend time with him.
Hang out with him. Play with him a lot.
I'm playing. I'm just saying. I don't know if it's the cologne I got on.
I would smell horrible to him.
What the hell is this?
You probably smell like a chemical factory. What the fuck does this dude smell like?
I feel Do you wear cologne? I feel like you don't wear cologne.
Do you work alone? What do you mean?
Do you wear cologne? Wear cologne?
I thought you said work alone. No. No, I don't wear cologne. I barely wear it. I only wear deodorant because I don't want to be offensive.
Because I will get offensive. I'll smell terrible. But I wear natural deodorant with no aluminum in it and all that jazz.
Of course you do.
I don't, I don't smell. You don't smell at all?
No. Are you sure? Can I smell you? Go right ahead.
How can you not smell?
I don't have whatever it is that gives off any type of body odor. Really?
I don't have it. Have you been told this by someone? Or did you just deduce this on your own?
I've.
gotten sweaty many a times and I even asked my wife. Did I smell? She says no. So I don't emanate any odor while I'm sweating.
Interesting. Maybe your wife can't smell good.
No, I'm telling you, Joe. Believe me. I'm very keen on odors. So if I smell anything, I make sure that that's taken care of.
Odors are interesting because your olfactory senses, they detect changes in smell. They don't detect static smells. That's why people that live in an area like with a slaughterhouse, they don't freak out. My family used to live in Pennsylvania and when I would drive from New York to go visit them, when I would drive through these areas where they have farms and slaughterhouses, fertilizer, it's a fucking terrible smell in the whole town. How can these people live here?
They don't smell it.
Oh, the no body odor gene. That's what you have. People have the ABCC 11 non-functioning gene variant, have dry ear wax, and little to no body odor.
Now I've known this for some time. That I have no body odor. But it's nice to come on the show, because there's always a reference put up. I could have looked that up. I never looked it up.
and here you come and you walk away knowing that you don't have the gene that emits.
odor. Yeah, some sort of a gene expression. Interesting. I wonder what the benefits, we were talking about this yesterday, like people that didn't shower, there was people that went their whole life without bathing because bathing was considered a sin. It was sinful.
You want to discourage people. Where was that about? that we're reading?
It was something religious, right? It was about like royalty and old-timey people. But Saint Agnes, is that who it was that went his whole life without bathing at all? His whole life, no bathing. Imagine.
I couldn't imagine that. Imagine what that guy smelled like. Imagine what his asshole smelled like. What the fuck, dude?
Have you gone recently, in the last 10 years, without taking a shower or cleaning yourself, at least? Did you miss a day?
I've missed a day before. Yeah.
But generally, no, because I work out. So if I work out, I always shower. And I'll cold, plunge and sauna. So that's, you know, you just drench and sweat. You feel like shit if you don't wash off.
a little. No, I agree. I'm just, I think I might be showering too much. How much do you shower? Well, I normally get two showers in a day.
Really? Sometimes three. I feel like if I'm gonna go to dinner, say with my wife, I feel like I can't take the day shower and bleed it into the night. I feel like it's a reset. Right.
You gotta get re-ready for the dinner. You wanna look nice.
You wanna feel nice. Put that watch on. Put the watch on.
Go out, have a nice bowl of pasta. Yeah. Sweat to death. Now you're talking.
Do you use the Eight Sleep thing? Does it help you?
Well, it's.
. Again, I got this Eight Sleep. It's supposed to monitor your sleep. Right. I got the Aura Ring supposed to monitor.
Right. You know what I need? What? I need accountability. I need to send the data to someone.
And have someone change your lifestyle.
And have them analyze it and go, oh, you know what the problem is? You're waking up at one o'clock in the morning and that's disrupting your sleep. I got all this data. I got an Apple Watch. Oh, I burned 390 calories.
Okay. What does that mean? There's. no... I have a lot of data.
I don't have a lot of analysis. Alright. Do you have a trainer? I have a trainer, yeah. Maybe we should get a.
nutritionist. You got some bread. Get a nutritionist. Get someone you can show the data to and they'll tell you.
what you're doing wrong. Alright. I need someone to hand over the data.
They have companies that do stuff like that. Okay. Yeah, you can get that done. Yeah. You should do that.
Yeah, I bet the late night eating thing is a real problem. That one makes you feel terrible when you're sleeping. What's late?
night eating? Okay, like some say, alright, you should have dinner at 5, 36 o'clock and after that you don't eat if you go to bed around 9 9, 30.. I mean, what's a late night meal for you?
At one o'clock in the morning. last night I was cooking elk steaks.
Yeah.
One o'clock in the morning. Yeah.
Well, then you're up to 4 30.
I was up to 3.
. Yeah.
I mean, as long as you're not going to sleep, I figure 2-3 hours. I think 2-3 hours a good time to go to bed after a meal.
Yeah, a couple hours. Yeah. But I've done it like where I eat and go right to bed. Yeah. That's terrible.
That's terrible. We have 8 o'clock at night. We're eating. Next thing, you know, 8 41, we're in bed. And I'm like, is this healthy?
You should go for a walk. Go for a walk.
I saw something online that the walking.
I was going to share that. Oh, yeah, there it is. That's from Andrew Huberman again. Brief post-meal walks and blood sugar regulation. So they explain the simple yet large positive effect that a brief post-meal walk, as simple as it may sound, the data is impressive and it is impressive stuff.
I forget exactly what the numbers were, but you should, 30-35%. the change in your blood sugar level is by taking a walk around the block after a meal.
Pretty amazing.
With all this stuff, that's out, all this information of how to live your life, and you took me to a tour, you got the tank, the sauna, the thing. I feel like at this age, at 50, all the stuff that you gotta do to prepare for the day, by the time you're done with it, you gotta go back to bed again, right? So by the time you work out, do the cold plunge, you're in the sauna, you're in the tank, and then it's time to go to bed. It's time to go back to bed, with all the shit you gotta do, right? It used to be.
you just work out for an hour, you took a shower, and you went on with your day. Now I gotta go submerge myself in water, I gotta go sweat, then I gotta go float in a tank. The tank.
takes a lot of time, but the other things don't take, the float tank takes a lot of time, but the other things, like, cold plunge, adds 3 minutes to my day, sauna adds 20 minutes to my day. It's 25 extra minutes of my workout. That's it.
I.
wasn't looking for the time breakdown,
Joe, I was just saying. But it doesn't take the.
whole day. But I'm just saying, the amount of shit, then you gotta eat the vitamins, the half a cup, but by the time this is all said and done, it's time for dinner.
No. No. You get things done, man. You're exaggerating. I get you doing that.
This is the way.
you do humor. I love exaggerations.
It's plenty of time. It's plenty of time. You just don't waste it. Like today, I wasted an hour just scrolling through Instagram. It's one of the rare days I just felt like indulging myself.
I'm like, let's fucking see what's going on in the world. Bunch of nonsense. Some interesting things, but just a bunch of nonsense for a whole hour, just wasted.
scrolling. Yeah, I mean, there's time, there's mind-numbing things that you do to kind of like, whatever, carry yourself throughout the day. I'm just saying, 20 years ago, nobody knew about any of this shit, about what sweating and what that does. Now, with the internet, you could throw up, you know, before the internet, if we were talking about walking, we would just go, oh yeah, now walk is good for you. Next thing you know, now we got a whole study up on the screen of how walking is beneficial to you, and this, that, and the other thing.
I'm just saying, with the amount of information out there, sometimes I feel a little bit overwhelmed, going, how much do I, how much do I gotta do to get through the day?
Well, it depends on how you want to feel. If you want to have a lot of energy, like I do, you have to do a lot of things. And I firmly believe this is the reason why I'm so productive. And I think if I didn't do the cold plunge and the sauna and the workouts and the vitamins and the eating healthy, I'd be a completely different human being.
I know. I wouldn't have the energy. I get it. It's just that there's a lot you gotta do.
There's a lot you gotta do.
I see people on the internet sweating. Then I'm like, okay, do I gotta start sweating? Is the steam room that I got at home, is that not enough? Do a couple eucalyptus sprays, breathe in, sweat a little bit, and then I come out, right? That's not bad.
But now do I need an infrared sauna? Because now I gotta get the sweat that's inside. that's not coming out of the steam. What's happening, Joe?
The infrared sauna is probably very good for you, but there's not a lot of data on it like there is with the traditional dry sauna. A traditional dry sauna, there's a lot of very beneficial data. And the thing about the difference between steam and sauna is, you can't really get steam hot enough. Because you'll cook. Because it's just too crazy.
You can't get a 190 degree steam shower. You'd literally go in there and scald your skin. But you can get a 190 degree dry sauna and you go in there and you really fucking sweat. And that's when your body develops all those heat shock proteins. Because your body's reacting to it overheating.
so it has to do something to sort of mitigate that effect. And that effect of mitigating it is what's so beneficial for your life. I mean, there's a study out of Finland. they did a 20 year study that found that using a sauna 4 times a week for 20 minutes at a time, and I think it was 175 degrees lowers your all cause mortality by 40%. That means strokes, heart attack, cancer, everything, lowers it by 40%.
And this is a long term study of many, many people.
So the 190 degrees is a lot more beneficial than the steam. A steam at 120, is that doing anything? It's doing something.
Yeah, it's all good. A hot bath is good. Everything is good. Getting your body to heat up is good. Cause it gets your body to react and it does the same thing.
It develops those heat shock proteins. A really hot bath is very good for you. If you can get in a nice hot, especially you get some Epsom salts in there, you get that magnesium. Get a really hot bath. Very, very good for you.
You know what I started doing? Talking about magnesium. And I don't know if you've ever done this, but I'm doing a...
I got a little spray bottle of magnesium. I spray it on my feet at night and I put socks on. You ever heard of that move? No.
Why do you do that?
Saw it online. Let me try this. I'm a guy, I'm telling you right now, this is what I do. I don't do research. None?
None. I see that, I go, oh, this guy's spraying the magnesium on his feet, putting socks on. I'm going to try that tonight.
That's it? No Google search?
No, Google search, no, nothing. It could be killing me for all. I know. I don't think it is. But I'm doing magnesium feet sock.
sleeps. Does it seem to have a change?
in the way you feel? Again, haven't done it consistently enough to even find out if this is helping me. Right. So I'm a guy that does like things kind of on the whim and there's really no consistency with it.
Let's look into it for you. The magnesium foot spray, now I'm interested. What is the deal behind that? There's definitely multiple products being sold as magnesium oil for your feet. I didn't see anything necessarily saying you need to keep socks on too.
I throw the socks on just because I don't want magnesium all over the bed.
That's a good move.
That's what I'm doing. My wife is even looking at me, going, Jesus Christ. I'm at the edge of the bed, spraying my feet. I'm like, what? She's like, really?
Magnesium on your feet? Is this what a relationship is?
What the fuck?
So, I don't know if you could.
. The internet probably don't even have this information. I saw it like on a random. I think it was an Instagram video.
Well, I would imagine it gets absorbed through your skin, just like the float tank does. The float tank is a great source of magnesium, because there's 1,000 pounds of epsom salts in the water and your skin absorbs it. So, I would imagine your skin is absorbing that stuff you're spraying on your feet. Yeah, it just doesn't absorb as well as an oral supplement. Okay.
So, not good absorption. But it works a little bit. It can help with cramps or some sort of nerve functions. Magnesium helps people sleep, though, right? It's a good one for sleep.
Yeah.
I notice sometimes when I get those IV and there's magnesium in there, I feel exhausted. Relaxed.
Relaxed.
The IV? Again, this is another thing people do. Oh, you gotta get a bag of whatever the hell's in the thing. I don't even ask. Just give me the bag.
Whatever you.
. And I get it, right? Don't feel any different.
No? You will. if you're sick. Yeah. I tell everybody, if you are down, if you're feeling shit and you're run down, get an IV vitamin drip.
It's a game changer. Especially with a high dose of zinc and vitamin C. You get an IV vitamin bag and you will feel way better. Bill Burr was sick as a dog. when I saw him last.
I was like, how long have you been sick? for? He's like, two weeks. I can't shake this call. I go, please listen to me.
I just do this. Get a vitamin IV. And he texted me the other day. He's like, Dr. Rogan!
He goes, it fixed me. I was like, I'm gonna do that from now on? I'm like, from now on. Anytime you're sick, you feel like shit, get a high dose of vitamin C, zinc, B12, the whole deal, in a bag. You'll feel...
You'll feel much, much better. Because it gives your body the tools it needs to fight off whatever the fuck is trying to get you.
Yeah, Joe, listen. I've done the bag. Right? While ill.
And it hasn't helped?
Well, it's helped, but not like where I came out of it. Like, this is what I'm thinking. If I take the bag and I got a cough, after I take the bag...
The cough should go away.
I don't want the cough anymore. And if the cough is still there, I feel like...
Have you ever done NAD?
No.
NAD is rough. How do you say it again? Nucleotide... Adeninide... What is it?
Nicotinamide.
. Adenine... Adenine, dinucleotides? Oh, yeah. So, NAD is a supplement that you can take that actually helps your telomeres lengthen, which is a sign of healthy bodies in young people.
Found in all living cells, NAD is called.
dinucleotide, because it consists of two nucleotides joined through their phosphorus groups. So you take that in an IV bag, and generally most people do it over a long period of time. You do it over like two hours. So you just watch a movie. Because it's very uncomfortable.
What, they get it?
Yeah, the NAD is very uncomfortable. It's very uncomfortable for your stomach. It makes you cramp up. If you do it quick, it's an intense feeling that most people don't enjoy.
What's the benefit?
There's a lot of benefits. There's a benefit for your immune system. There's a benefit cognitively. You feel much better. You come out of it when your body's replenished with that stuff.
You just feel fantastic.
That's something else I gotta do.
But that's one that needs some time, unless you can go hardcore and just deal with the uncomfortable feeling.
No, I don't do anything hardcore. Nothing? Nothing in my life is hardcore.
Interesting. Interesting. Do you have an aversion to hardcore things, or is this just how it all panned out?
It's just how it all panned out. Hardcore for me is...
Hardcore is comedy. That's what I do.
Okay. Yeah, one thing. One thing you're all in on.
I'm all in on comedy. Other than that, outside, I wish I was more interested and dove into things a little bit more deeper than I have. Everything with me is a little bit on the surface.
Do you really wish that? Because I feel like, if you did wish that, you would just do it.
Yeah. I just wish I had the... I don't know what it is inside me that would make me want to learn more about... I like cooking, right? But I don't dive so into it.
where I'm coming up with recipes and doing this and that and the other thing. Let's look at a YouTube video, make the fish, and then here's the fish. I don't take it to another level. I don't go get the beautiful knife or the pots and pans and all the stuff that goes along with cooking. My interest level is surface.
Rarely, does it go underneath the surface.
Mmm. You know, what I really got into out here is cooking over wood. Like live, like actual hardwood, not just lump charcoal. Like getting wood and using an offset smoker and slowly searing the steaks, or slowly, like cooking the steaks rather, and then searing them at the end over the coals. I take the coals and I put the coals from the hardwood underneath the grill and then sear the shit out of it.
I hear that. I hear that. And my brain is going to explode. Too much?
Too much. But we're all different.
Sebastian. I know we're all different, but like, do you know the kind of wood?
Live oak. You want oak generally. Live oak, or you want, if you want, to grill hotter, a lot of guys like mesquite. I like mesquite and oak. Those are my two favorite.
But I'll try cherry. I'll try some different woods. Some places you can go to get hardwood just for, because there's so much barbecue out here. There's companies that'll just deliver cords of wood to your house.
Okay, speaking of wood, I got a pizza oven.
My goal is.
to make pizza. It's not as easy as people might think to make pizza from scratch, the dough and the whole.
thing. It's very hard.
So, I've tried multiple times, and you know, again, I'm a guy that I'll try it again and hope for a different result, but I'll do the same thing I did before. Just hoping magically, oh, it's going to come out. My pizza don't even look like pizza. It looks like the shapes are unrecognizable. I can't even get a circle on the damn thing.
I work it out. It's not pliable enough. So when I put it in there, half of the cheese flies off into the stove. I bring it out. It's a mess.
Why don't you get pre-made dough?
I tried the pre-made dough, Joe. And for whatever the reason, I cannot get a circle with the thing. I try this.
I bet if you went to a real Italian pizzeria, they would show you how to do it.
Joe, listen, you teach me something, I come home, I forget half of the shit I learned. I don't have any retention or comprehension on anything. Has this always been the case?
It's always been the case. But not with comedy.
That's why I went.
The one thing you're successful at, super successful at, you've.
focused entirely on that. I've got no more.
focus. The focus.
I have is for comedy. After that, the focus wanes, because I feel like I just don't have the focus. That's probably.
a good way to live.
Yeah, just be casual most of your life and be intense about one thing. That sounds like a good balance. I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
Well, I would like to learn more things. Even when you've got kids. now, you could teach your kids how to do the archery. You've got the whole archery thing. Hunting.
You know how to hunt. I'm trying to figure out. what am I passing on to my kids as far as skill sets is a concern.
Probably talking shit. Talking shit? They're probably good at talking shit. My kids are real good at talking shit. They say some funny things, man.
It's fun. We have a fun house. There's a lot of fun shit talking.
That's always good. And they make fun of me too,
which is fun.
I could never make fun of my parents. There was none of that growing up. They would fucking yell at you.
Oh, we had that relationship.
with my parents. Yeah, you can't beat Italian parents. No, no, we did. We had a relationship joking around. Yeah, just goofing around.
My parents were not like that. There was not a lot of joking around. I love joking around. They make fun of me all the time. It's hilarious.
Your daughters? Yeah, they're funny. They talk shit. And they know that I like it. They know that I laugh, so everyone's like, we have a good time.
They talk shit to each other. They talk shit to their friends. Talking shit is fun.
It's a fun activity. It's one of my favorite things about a green room at a comedy club is that everybody's talking shit. You go back there, everybody's busting balls, cracking on people, guys and girls. Everyone's laughing. We're all just shitting on each other.
It's hilarious. It's such a beautiful environment. Like a green room of a comedy club, where you're around a bunch of good people and everyone's laughing and we're all jazzed up because we're about to do shows. I wish you were in last night and I wanted to take you to the club.
Yeah, I wish I would've came to the club.
It's so much fun, man. It's such.
a great spot. But here's my thing with that. Here's my.
take on the green room.
I generally tend to retreat and just listen to everything that's going on when comedians get together. I'm never the guy like center of attention or.
contributing to the fun. I've always been the guy that just kind of comes in quiet and listen. Because I don't know a lot of the comedians intimately enough to have that comfortable. So if I walk into a room, like here, I just did this show with Seinfeld, Nate Bregazzi, and Jim Gaffigan. And we're all backstage.
I tend to be the one who's.
. I listen. And I chime in every now and again. I don't have to be the guy that comes in and kind of like pisses on.
the room. That's actually good. That's a good trait. And also, when you're around, those guys, like, hey, what a great time to sit back and listen. You got Seinfeld, Nate Bregazzi, and Jim Gaffigan in a room together.
Look at that.
Yeah, so we had a great time, but I'm just.
When did.
That's.
. that's crazy.
When did what?
I was going to say, like, look at you. You look like an Arab.
It doesn't even look like you.
When did you turn into a guy from Palestine?
I don't know.
What is that photo? Someone put a filter on you. That does not look like you. Am I right, Jimmy? No, no, no.
Dark. He came off a yacht. There's no other way. Like, screw... let's say, a guy in the Mediterranean shows you how to get octopus.
I got Mediterranean blood. You don't even look like you.
Like, in that photo, you look handsome. Don't get me wrong. You look great. But you don't look like you.
No, you know what it is. Everybody else is white.
That's what it is. When you're next to Jim Gaffigan, of course you're going to look like you.
That's the filter.
There's a balance there. He looks like a normal color in that, which is wrong. Look how dark you are. Well, that at least looks like you. That other photo did not look like you.
Maybe it was the lighting, Joe. But that's me. I was there.
I believe you. I 100% believe you. I'm just saying. Go to that last photo, Jimmy. I'm not lying.
Go to that last photo. Get the fuck out of here. That ain't you. That's some dude that works for the Saudi Arabian government. He came over here to make some sort of a deal, to try to get comedy to come over to the Middle East.
I know a lot of guys who do comedy in the Middle East and they give you a list of shit you can't talk about.
I did it in 08.
. I went with a bunch of comedians.
That scares me. A list of shit you can't talk about? What if I slip up? What if there's a moment in the crowd where someone yells something out and I think it would be funny to say something. And whoopsies.
There's a lot of editing.
Now you're in jail.
Who had a problem with that? Who was it? Someone actually went to one of those Middle East countries and did a gig and almost got arrested. It was Eddie Ift.
The only thing that saved him. I believe the story was I believe it's Eddie. I think the only thing that saved him is some of the royal family thought he was hilarious. They didn't have a problem with what he said at all. I think he called someone.
sir, when you're not supposed to call him sir, you're supposed to call him your highness or your excellency, and he was referring to people in the audience and talking to them and calling them sir, and then they were trying to arrest him afterwards.
Jeez.
Yo.
Like sir's, not good enough?
I thought it was something.
No, it wasn't even anything. That's why I'm nervous. That's not even anything crazy. That's nothing.
But your brand of humor. did you take that, and did you ever do corporates? No. That wasn't your style? No.
Everybody that I've ever known that's done a corporate. after they do them, they go. why did I do that? Ron White just did one. he goes this is the worst fucking experience of my life.
but they offered me a shit load of money and I said yes. I kept saying no, but they kept coming up with higher numbers and eventually I said yes, and it was fucking terrible. Tony Hanscliffe just did one. he said it was fucking terrible. they're always terrible.
You like them?
Joe, I gotta be honest, I don't mind a corporate. I really don't mind a corporate. yeah, you've had those awful corporate gigs. What percentage?
I just ran into Sandler. he told me he ate dick at a corporate gig Adam Sandler. they paid to see Adam Sandler. they knew Adam Sandler was going to be there and it still sucked.
it's the environment. sometimes it's like you're walking into whatever. they just had their breakout meeting and then they're coming and oh, it's comedy, but it's just a different vibe.
they're all scamming about their careers. they're all networking, fucking, making their little backstabby moves.
but you call them out on that. you know you kind of like do material about what they're going through during the three day sales meeting at the Venetian. so you kind of relate to I. actually, I don't mind them as much as other comedians or corporates. I actually don't mind them.
Jay Leno loves them. that's where he's made the majority of his money. you know, Jay Leno? all those fucking cars, he has never spent a dime of his Tonight Show money. never spent a dime.
puts it all in the bank. all that money, all those cars, it's all him doing gigs.
you didn't grow up with money, so now you're super successful. you got this money. was there someone that taught you how to manage money or how to look at money in a way where you're like okay, I have a good grasp on this. yeah, I mean money manager. what have you?
but I'm just talking about your relationship with money. is it like yeah, we're here, you live it up, spend it, or is it more like? do you ever think this is not going to be the most popular podcast ever? or do you even think that way? I don't think that way.
I never thought it would be popular in the first place. when I first started doing it, it was just me and Brian Redband in my fucking living room, like and then comedians Joey Diaz come over, Eddie Bravo comes over, Ari comes over. we're just having fun, just talking shit. I never imagined I didn't plan for it. like when everybody has those vision boards like this is how you become successful.
you have to manifest it. I didn't manifest this at all zero most successful thing I've ever done by a long shot, and I've put zero management into it.
all I've done is just keep doing what I enjoy doing and it turns out other people enjoy it too. that's it. it's just talk to people like yourself. talk to funny people. talk to interesting people.
talk to people I agree with. talk to people I disagree with. have civil conversations with people you disagree with. it's good for you too. all I do is just do what I enjoy doing.
if I could do this for free, I would still do it. I enjoy it.
so you do this podcast. you have no aspirations of this, the hugest thing ever.
I don't even have any aspirations for growth. I don't say, you know. by this time next year I'd like to have.
you just focus on.
what I'm doing. I feel like everything else is a distraction, like as long as you're making enough money. Brian Cowell said something to me once and I never forgot it. he said we were kids, we were in our 20s. he said the only amount of money you need is so that you can go to a restaurant and not care what things cost.
everything else is bullshit. if you've got enough money, you can go to a restaurant. you don't worry. just order a bottle of wine, order meat, whatever you want to eat. you don't have to think about the price he goes.
that's real freedom. everything else like all that other shit you forget. that's all. it becomes complicated. you don't need that.
real freedom is the freedom to not worry about your bills. I experienced that leap, that jump, when I got a development deal. so I was like I guess I was 25, 26, maybe 25, and I got this development deal from Disney and it was like $150,000 and I couldn't believe it. I had $150,000. this is nuts, and I felt like a physical weight lift over my shoulders because back then I was a road comic.
you know you do a gig on Thursday, it's $200. you do a gig here, it's $150. you know you're scraping together enough money so that you can pay your bills and eat. and you were always worried about gigs, always trying to fill my book, always trying to call booking agents, drive to Connecticut, drive to Jersey where do I gotta go to make some money? and it was all just trying to stay alive and trying to make it.
didn't really think I was a legit professional comedian. it could all go away. and so I got that development deal and it was the nuttiest feeling in the world. it was like I felt lighter, like I felt lighter, and then I was like, oh, that's the key, like get the monkey off your back, get the bill monkey off your back, and that's the real freedom. the real freedom is not being rich.
you don't feel any different being really rich, other than the stuff that you can do but the way you feel in the day is the same way you feel if your bills are paid. that's what you want. all that other shit is like the other thing I noticed when I moved to California. it was the first time I had a nice apartment, and I'll never forget this either. I was sitting in my apartment and it was a beautiful place in North Hollywood.
I had a loft, I had a pool table in my apartment. I was like this is amazing. how is this real, how is this mine? after a while, it just became my house, and then I realized like, oh, this is the same feeling I have when I'm home that I had in my shitty apartment in New York. it's the same feeling.
it's like oh, this is home. it's the same feeling, it's not better. it's not worth the amount of money that it costs. if you're like renting a house, that's way over your budget and you're doing Uber just to try to pay your bills, it's not worth that. it's what's worth it is.
if it's. if you have a TV and you have a nice bed and you can cook your meals, you're good, that's what you need. that's all you need. everything else is just like the amount of effort that you have to put in to make the amount of money to get. all these other things leads you in this constant state of anxiety, and I think people just get lost in this idea of constantly making more and getting more and chasing more.
and I just concentrate on what I do. that's all I concentrate on. I concentrate on work, I concentrate on comedy, I concentrate on UFC fights, I concentrate on podcasts, and I don't think about those other things. I don't think about the direction of my career at all.
that's a great way to look at things, because the only thing you really have control of is
what you do, what you put out.
so you being a pioneer in the podcast world, you and Mark Merritt, I feel like we're kind of.
Adam Curry was the first the MTV VJ. he's still got a podcast now. he's excellent, he's a good friend of mine and he's the number one guy. he's the podfather. he named it, they started it off together.
they started doing it years before I ever did it and yeah, Mark had his a little bit before mine. Adam Carolla was the first because Adam did it off of radio. so Adam had that radio gig where he took over Howard Stern's slots when Howard Stern went over to Sirius. remember that? So he had this morning show and that morning show was doing real well.
until, do you remember, they used to have a talk radio station in LA? Before podcast. it was like Tom Likas was on it and it was a bunch of good shows. and that also made me think about doing podcasts too. I didn't know that a podcast was ever going to be a thing, but I was like there's a talk radio station now.
talk radio got so big mostly because of Howard, I think, but there was a whole station where you could listen to the station, it was all talk radio all day long.
there was a science guy on there late night. I forgot what the hell his name was, but yeah, you're right, there was like a station that had all these kind of cool talk formats. and what I'm saying is for me, I'm not so versed on the history of podcasting, but for me, I just remember you as being one of the first guys.
to do this.
so now, you're here. when you look at the landscape of podcasting, from when you started to where it is now, do you go wow, this is amazing. all these people are doing it. could anybody do this? It feels like everybody has a podcast.
I feel like there's a specific skill set to podcasting. do you look at what you did early on and what you're doing now and go wow, look at the growth. it's definitely a lot better.
yeah, I'm definitely better at talking to people. yeah, it's a skill you learn it, it makes you a better conversationalist in the real world, for sure makes you more considerate.
it's like comedy, right? you weren't the podcaster, you were.
how long have you been doing this?
15 years somewhere around there, closing in on 15 years.
so it took 15 years to get it to. obviously you've been successful for longer.
but yeah, it took a long ass time.
it took a long ass time and I think nowadays, it's just. there's an amount of time you gotta put into something in order for it to be a gem.
yes, but
even just the entertainment landscape. as I look at it, has entertainment changed? where? now we're looking at the phone and we're looking at somebody do something crazy. at their house, there's a guy I've been watching this, insane, his name is insane.
he's catching eggs in his mouth, right? do you see this guy, insane, insane. I forget the name insane, Shane this guy.
catches eggs from how far away?
50 yards, they're throwing eggs in this guy's mouth, he's got the best mouth on the internet.
does he break the eggs or does he catch them and not have them break?
like hard boiled, or a meatball. this guy's chucking meatballs.
and he's catching them in his mouth?
50 yards.
that's a skill.
so I'm watching this, this guy.
ok, the marshmallow combine.
he's not catching all of them.
no, he's catching them.
and spitting them out. oh my god, that's insane who throws a marshmallow at 50 yards?
I think they're like ex-football players or the guys that are throwing the guy's doing routes, catching marshmallows in his mouth.
this is crazy. people are trying to block him. that's crazy, he's catching the marshmallows. that's amazing. that's a skill.
I'm watching this now. this is entertainment now.
he's got a million followers, insaneshayne1.
he's diving off speedboats, catching them in his mouth. look at this guy.
who would have ever thought that would be a thing. oh, he dives into a.
this is a real football. so has entertainment in your eyes changed where it's changing, where this is now what people are watching, instead of maybe a movie or a TV show?
it's definitely consuming a lot of your time. if you look at your screen time, if you look at my screen time on my phone, on an average day it would be more than 4 hours, and how much of that is doomscrolling? A lot. so that's entertainment. so would I have been watching television during that time?
no, probably not, because you could take your entertainment with you now, which is even more distracting.
you said you did an hour of instagram. you're not watching a movie or a documentary.
sometimes I am, I spend a lot of time doing that too.
but I do that in certain places, like I'll watch a documentary on an airplane or I'll watch something at home, but I generally don't take my phone and I'm walking around the house watching documentaries. you would sit down and enjoy that, but this is something that I would probably if I was on my phone. from the kitchen to the bedroom, I'm watching a guy catch marshmallows. my question to you is if the internet or social media wasn't around, do you think that guy would be around? no, he wouldn't be doing that, but do you think this was existing 30 years ago, where somebody was chucking marshmallows and catching them just for fun and we didn't see it?
there was probably a guy in the neighborhood that could do it and everybody would come over and watch Bob catch marshmallows with his face. yeah, I'm sure, but it just never would have been the discipline that it is now where this guy's got like fucking guys, blocking him and he's juking left and right and catching marshmallows in the air with his mouth. it's pretty impressive stuff.
so do you think the social media and internet spawns this type of stuff?
100%. it is a new form. that's another thing you could say about podcasting too, because before podcasting, no one thought that the time when you're driving or the time when you're at the gym is time that you could be entertained by something other than music most of the time, unless you're listening to talk radio, of course, but now the podcast thing is like you could pause it at any time, you could start it at any time. so if it's an interesting podcast and you got a two hour road trip, now you're occupied. now the road trip's easy, because now you're driving, but now you're listening to some funny fucking shit, and Joey Diaz is telling stories, and it's great, I mean so this area of entertainment wasn't available, it wasn't being utilized before, and so what podcasts are really good for is it allows you to be entertained and occupied while you're doing other shit?
I don't think most people who consume podcasts just sit there and listen, or sit there and watch, I think a lot of times like maybe you're cooking and while you're cooking you got your earbuds in, you're listening to a podcast, or while you're driving, or while you're on the fucking treadmill and you're bored, you get to listen to some interesting shit, and I get a lot of messages from my friends that will tell me, oh, I was at the gym and I was listening to Shane, it was hilarious. you guys were killing me, like that kind of stuff is. or hey, there's this guy with that power plant Egyptian pyramid guy. you believe that? What do you think about that?
I was in the gym. it was kind of freaking me out, so it gives you like this opportunity for entertainment that didn't exist before, that's not. it's not completely useless, right, like the scrolling for stuff and the guy catching marshmallows in his mouth, I'm not getting anything out of that, it's fun, it's interesting. it's kind of useless, but podcasts are not, and you know, you do get to sit in on interesting conversations, you get to consider ideas that maybe you never considered before. so it wasn't available before.
and because of phones, and because everybody, it's so easy to get a podcast, everybody has access to them. Do you listen to podcasts? Yeah, all the time.
Are you going to them for comedy or more informational podcasts, what's your?
forte? I listen to a lot of different podcasts. I listen to podcasts that are comedy podcasts. I listen to history podcasts, I listen to podcasts about science, I listen to podcasts about pretty much everything, hunting podcasts which are very valuable. hunting is, it seems easy, like the idea seems easy to people, it's not.
it's really hard, and there's a lot of things that people learn along the way in their journey of hunting and they'll explain it to you. and so if you encounter that, I'll say oh, Remy Warren said, when you do this, be careful of that. now that's in my head, you know, so it's just like, it's a way that you can accumulate information.
yeah, I listen to this, Huberman.
yeah, he's great, and half of the stuff.
goes over my head, you know, like there's.
he's hard, he's hard, you gotta make, even when I do podcasts with him, I have to make notes, I make notes, then I ask him afterwards, and you know, but he's very fact-based, and he's a great guy.
too, I have to ask you this, talking about Huberman, and you've interviewed him do you ever have somebody come on the show, where you're nervous to have them, like?
oh yeah, definitely.
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