JRE MMA Show #153 with Joe Pyfer

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What's up, Joe? What's up, Joe? So we should say right away off the bat, because people don't know you really did break Francis Ngannou's punch record.

Yeah, so I don't know what the confusion is, you know, I didn't want to.

A lot of people, they doubt it just because he's so big.

So I'm going to post it.

Well, we just sent it to Jamie, we sent one where you went to 170..

Yeah, 170.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He got 113.

We're trying to break Ngannou's record right now. I had already hit four times.

Woo.

170.

Now the only thing that, so this is the thing that people don't understand, though, is it's the same machine. I think everybody thought it was like one of those punching bags that are down at the road walk.

Right?

And you know, it's aggravating because I pride myself on my power. I want to hurt you, you know what I mean, like, that's my intention, I'm trying to. I mean, we all throw with power, right? Yeah?

I think someone has kicked it up to, like, 187.

Now, get it, it's a standstill object, right? Yeah, I can smash that thing, I'm a man.

I was trying to see who did it, here's Aljo and Wonderboy kicking it. Someone just did. 189. I don't know who that is. Lorenz Larkin.

I thought he was bellator. Oh yeah, they merged.

Well, Bellator is the PFL now. Yeah, but Lorenz got 189. Oh Jesus, he got 235. Lorenz can fucking kick hard.

I would love to see Diego Lima.

Oh yeah, he's another one.

Yeah, yeah, Jose.

There's probably quite a few guys that can kick like that. But Lorenz, if you watch him, that technique is just perfect. He's perfect. The way he switches his hips, the way he turns his body into it is just maximizing it.

I mean, some people. It's weird for me because a lot of people think I have natural power and I get annoyed with it because I've never had anything natural in my life. Everything was difficult, learning it, learning jujitsu, learning how to box, everything was hard for me to learn. So I have a bitter chip on my shoulder when people are trying to discredit it with natural power.

There is a thing, though, where there's like, you could unlock horsepower in a human being, but you only have so much when it comes to power. There's certain people and I think we've all seen them. They just don't hit hard for whatever reason, and they look big, they can look strong, and then there's certain guys that, for whatever reason, they fucking hit crazy hard.

My bones got to be trashed, Joe, because I'm fucking having two surgeries and being beat up. I just think it's the amount of power that you generate.

I mean, that's probably a lot of it, too.

It's probably a corny thing to say, but I was told that I almost generate too much force for my bone density to handle. I don't know how true that is, I don't know if they were just kind of stroking my ego.

Well, it makes sense. That's why your hands break. when people's hands break, that's why they break, because you're literally generating too much force for your bone structure.

Yeah.

Dude, when you fought Rezaq al-Hassan, you are on. There's like,—There's a thing that happens with fighters, where you see them, you see anxiety, you see first fight, you see nerves, you see jitters.

Yeah, he's a dog.

He's a dangerous dude and you just put on a fucking show. In that fight. You looked like you were on a completely different level, like you had gone up several rungs from where you were before.

You know what's crazy about it, though, that the whole process of what's gotten me to that point has been nothing shy of. Just man. If I'm mentally happy, I'm going to destroy everybody, but I often struggle mentally. You know, like, bro, I didn't turn it on.

Was it the step up in competition?

No, no, so this is crazy, it's going to come off—well, it's not crazy, but it comes off as really arrogant. Like Abdul was not a step up in competition for me, he was a step up. As far as you know power and people that I fought, as far as you know people that have the ability to knock you out.

Don't you think you kind of have to be?

Yeah, you do have to be, you're a fucking cage fighter. It's your protection barrier, too, from people to just openly try to cut you down. Because everybody like hitting that punching machine, everybody immediately discredits, right?

Well, it's posted now.

Yeah, so it's posted now, and you know, it's on a big platform. But yeah, man, I mean, Abdul was just somebody you had to be careful with. But I didn't think he boxed better than me. And I think D.C. even says that as I'm walking into the cage and his best shot was to knock me out.

Well, it's also very evident. Like you're one of those guys that's at the top of the 185-pound division in terms of physical stature, you don't get much bigger at 185. It's like, you and guys like Pejeta, which Pejeta doesn't even make sense, yeah.

Man, even when I look at it, yeah, I mean, when I look at him, like, it's so weird. We've seen each other so many times. There's no head nod, there's no respect, there's no like, even him. Like, man, I think a lot of guys are overrated in this fucking sport.

You think that guy's overrated?

I mean, look, I don't think his. I think getting hit by him isn't overrated, right? But he's very stiff and he's got that off switch, he's got that off switch.

Well, he definitely does at 85.

Yeah, at 85.

I think that is a big part of the weight cut. I think his weight cut is borderline dangerous, like I think that a weight cut to 85 could kill you. Yeah, I think he's just so tough that he doesn't. But I think there's a point of diminishing returns. And certainly with your chin.

It's gone. It's almost like, I'm not going to say any names, but there's a guy that just recently lost who I like. And it's like, man, when you've had that off button shut off to the point where you're frozen, it's not like he got TKO'd.

Yes, there's a thing that happens to guys when they've taken too many shots, you can see it, yeah.

I've never been laid out. Last time I was ever dropped. I was 18 years old, I got dropped by a guy that used to be in the UFC. For a brief moment, it was Tim Williams. He fought your boy, Eric Anders, who I like.

I mean, a strong defensive base is so important when you know how to move well. I was just watching this documentary that the UFC put on about Anderson Silva. It's not that I forgot how good Anderson Silva was.

Smooth, super smooth, super fluent.

Everything, man. When he was in his prime, his fucking defense, too was so perfect, he was so hard to hit clean.

His range man, you know, when you're taller, these guys underestimate range, and you know, everybody wants to brawl, but people don't understand range. You know, you should be able to slide back and it just grazes your beard, you know? Mm-hmm.

Range is everything, and also the mechanical advantage of that long frame. When Anderson would throw that torque on guys, you know, when he was in his prime. Like you watch like the rich Franklin fights and the Chris Lieben fight, like that fucking dude was special, man.

But defense was a big part of it. Let me ask you, because I'm a huge fan of the old school days, more so than the new school. I just think it was more raw and just like I liked. When everybody was on Roids, you know, everybody was on Roids. But that's exactly the stipulation, right?

Well, I always talk about Trt Vitor, you know, I think Trt Vitor, the Vitor that fucked up Luke Rockhold and Michael Bisping. That dude. I put him up against anybody ever. He was fucking terrifying, but he was also like silverback gorilla. Levels of testosterone.

I'm a huge fan of Yoel Romero, by the way.

Yoel Romero is the freak of all freaks, and I've said this many times before on this podcast. But he is the single most impressive athlete I have ever seen in all my years of watching fights.

How old is he? 44 now?

He's at least 44.

Oh man, yeah, juice Vitor was the bomb, though.

Yoel didn't even need juice, man, he was a part of the Cuban athletic program. And there's something about that, dude, whether it's genetics or who knows what it is. But I've told this before, so I apologize if anybody's heard this. The UFC had brought him to a doctor after one of his fights, I think it was one of his fights in Australia.

That dude was eating fucking bark or something for growing up.

I mean, he was something super special.

I have to say he was someone that I loved watching, I loved that Paulo Costa and Yoel Romero fight and whatnot. I was always sad that I never got to see him win a belt before he left. Well, he was in the UFC.

He started in the UFC, I believe in his very late 30s.

Yeah, like 37.

Yeah, something crazy like that. When he knocked out Lyoto Machida, I think he was like, 38, 39. He was already at the range where most guys are looking to hang it up.

But look at a guy like that, right? I mean, I don't think he's that technical, I don't think he's very technically wrestling 100. But he never used it. As a complete mixed martial artist, he always seemed to kind of just be like the kickboxing guy who wanted to keep it on the feet.

Which is crazy when you think about his wrestling background, but that's just an energy thing, the amount of energy that it takes to wrestle. It takes guys down a lot, especially when they're slippery. Especially when he's not a submission guy, I don't know if he has any submissions in his record.

Yeah.

I think natural, but I think maybe there was something going on in Cuba.

Here's a bowl of cereal, and here's some fucking testosterone.

There was no bowls. They gave him a fucking Caribou liver for breakfast. He was a freak of all freaks. But I think there's something to that Soviet training program, and when you look at other communist countries, particularly Cuba, there's no doubt about it.

To a certain extent, I mean, I think, if you want to have that peak performance, you want to have that peak human being. From whatever you're trying to put them in, I mean, naturally, it's hard, it's very hard, it's the hardest road.

Well, you can get lucky, you can get lucky and get a Francis Ngannou with the best genetics ever. Or you can just start manipulating someone. When they're very young, if you get a young kid and you start giving them growth hormone and IGF-1 and peptides and stuff when they're really little.

It depends on their diet, right? I mean, like most of everything we eat is processed, and trash that too.

It's the shittiest food, I'm sure. They give them optimal nutrition, I'm sure. With that kind of a program, like a Communist program, where everything is on the line. If you are an athlete. For a totalitarian dictatorship, like whether it's Cuba or Russia, or China, or whatever it is, they will do whatever they can to make their athletes the best. Like the idea of cheating.

That's what I was imaging or picturing in my head.

He's hilarious, he's actually funny, but it's an amazing documentary. I can't recommend Icarus enough. But it just shows how far these countries are willing to go in order to gain national superiority by having their athletes gold medal. More than anybody.

Power, It's the most addicting thing, right? yeah.

And it's also national pride. There's a lot and they're all assuming that everybody else is doing this, too.

Because everybody on some shit, yeah.

Everybody's on some shit, for sure. If they can get away with it, they cheat. There's so much, especially when it comes to things like the Olympics.

Because they'll never stop exploring, trying to find the easier route. Exactly. It's funny because a lot of people have said shit to me and I'm like, Listen, when I came back after I broke my arm, I was big before I broke my arm, but I was big in the wrong way.

When did you break your arm?

2020 maybe.

And how did you do it?

Dustin StoltzFus I got Matt returned in a Fucking Contender series fight, dislocated and broke backwards.

And that's your right arm.

That's my right arm, so I had one surgery, that's this scar. Six months later, I joined my team, Marquez, where Sean's at and all the Philly guys. And then I had to six months again, had to get another surgery and another major surgery.

Same injury just re-injured it.

No, so I still had a torn forearm and I still had a whole bunch of bone growth behind. So I broke the radial head in half, which is what you rotate, so I can rotate my hand like this on my good arm. But I can't go any further than this because it's pinned.

To this day.

To this day, yeah.

Oh, wow.

And that's as straight as my arm goes, Oh wow, so motherfuckers don't understand that this was. I was given a 30 chance of being able to fight if I got the second surgery, 30 30. Because of the nerve damage and not having full functionality. Because there's a lot of nerves in there, especially where I got surgery and how much damage and inflammation and whatnot was in there.

So you were really concerned that that was the end.

Yeah, I mean, look, Joe. I started this at four and a half years old, I don't know how much, you know, but I started this at four and a half years old. And I haven't seen another path. And this was my A, and there was no B. so if A didn't work, that was it.

So at four and a half, you knew you wanted to fight.

No. Eight years old, I knew I wanted to fight four and a half. I started jujitsu five years old, I did my first competition in Naga.

When did you have your first MMA fight?

How old were you? I was? I think, 20 years old, 20 years old. yeah, 20 years old, actually. No, that's not true.

And amateur or amateur?

So pa, I'm a pa boy at the time. You have to have five amateurs before you could go pro.

Oh, really, yeah, interesting.

That was the rule when I was fighting, so you had to have five. Is that still the rule? I'm not sure, I think it is.

What if you're like an amateur wrestler or something like that? Does that translate into it?

I don't think so interesting. I think it's just the way that the PA Commission was with Greg Serb back then. That's not a bad idea. So I went 4-1 as an amateur.

Oh, that's how it is. With amateurs, you can't punch the face.

You can't punch in the face, no elbowing on the ground. Nope, so I couldn't wait to turn pro man. I felt so held back.

You talk about your abuse, like, what exactly was the abuse?

I don't want to give the short version, right. This is a moment right now that I get to recognize that I'm in front of somebody who has. You've heard so many stories, so many crazy things, and you know, my story is definitely not up there with the crazy things, right?

And you got beat for going to the bathroom.

Shit, my diaper. Yeah, the story is, I shit, my diaper reached in, my diaper wiped on the walls and then I got beat for it. Neither parent owns up to it, but both parents have blamed each other just because of the physical, physical abuse on my father's side.

Is he still around?

Still living? Yeah, still living. I'm not sure where I've parted ways with him and I don't want to talk to him. Next time I see him is probably, you know, when it's done.

It's so hard to believe that some people are capable of becoming what they've become, you know, and to do that to their child.

You know what's fucked up about it? The most is that it was almost better for me to have never known him than to know him and see how it went and lose him. You know what I mean, because I loved that man as a child, that was my idol.

You were just always focused.

I was obsessed with this, I was obsessed with this, and I was obsessed with this because I knew. If I couldn't do this, I would have checked out. And that's what made me, you know, that's what made me like, keep going, motherfucker, keep going, keep going, keep going. And I just kept beating down the door of people like my coach that, you know, has come with me. I've known that man since I was 10 years old, you know, and he's seen me where.

It's a horrible thing to hear, you know, as a parent, it's terrifying to think that another parent could do that to their child. But we all know it's true, and we all know that it can do one of two things to someone. It could just ruin your life, or it can give you this unstoppable fuel, and that's what it seems to have done with you. I would never wish that on anybody, but I often see people like you that are so fucking driven and so angry in there and so effective.

I don't think so.

I look at like, Mike Tyson, same thing.

I don't think so, but I think that's where I have my appreciation for him. You know, I'll never discredit him. I would not be in the sport if it wasn't for him. He was the one that went to the gym.

Was he a fighter?

So he grew up in Kensington, Philadelphia. I don't know how well, you know, Philadelphia, shithole, bad parents mom apparently was, you know, borderline.

It's not good, but again, I mean, I hate to say it, but in your line of work, it's like a superpower.

It is a superpower. You know what I mean, I got that dark devil with me when I need him, and I don't mind it, you know what I mean.

How is it that I wanted to ask you about this? Like, you know, Shara Bullitt has one eye.

That's why I'm saying it, because I'm telling you, right now, this kid will whoop that dude.

How is Shara Bullitt able to fight? I mean, how do you pass athletic commission standards?

So I don't know, so I think that from what I've heard, I think it depends on the commission and where you're fighting in PA. I know he has to have, I think, and I may be wrong, so somebody don't roast me for it, but I think you have to have. I think it's called a 2200, it has to be some type of visibility.

So you have to be able to see objects or movement.

Yeah, an object, shape, something. you have to be able to at least identify something out of that eye.

Right?

Yeah, I mean, I think.

That is the craziest way to fight when you already have lost one eye.

Bro, he's bigger than me. The kid I'm talking about is bigger than me. He's bigger. He's like 225 right now, and he's in shape. Abs cut. I'm telling you I can't wait for this kid's future.

Especially the people around you, especially your tribe.

Yeah, I mean.

I couldn't agree more. The one-eyed thing, man, it just still really freaks me out. Shout out to Michael Bisping, one of the fucking toughest dudes to ever do it.

He did it in the dark.

He scammed systems, he scammed the athletic commissions for 10 fights, for 10 fights, that dude fought with one eye.

But then look at the other part of it, right? If he goes out there and he's getting smoked and he's not competitive, sure. Pull his card and say, hey, can't do this. But then you're going to tell somebody they can't do what they've trained their whole life for because of something like that, that's not fair, too.

When you look at Shara Bullitt, I mean, depth perception is the first thing that goes when you lose one eye. Yeah, it helps, but Shara Bullitt is one of the most accurate and precision strikers. I mean, he's got some flaws in his game.

A man did not know how to get off his back.

Which is crazy. He's from Dagestan.

From a guy that's not a wrestler, right?

Yeah, it's a problem, it's a problem, but also him on his feet is a fucking problem, too.

Oh man, a guy that kicks that much, I don't want to fight that guy. That dude's annoying. It's not even. It's like, I hate that kind of style, that shit that you're like, Jack's style irritates the fuck out of me.

¿Jack de la mandolin.

No, Jack Hermanson dude's annoying as shit. I hate his style, fucking bounces around and like, he's just an awkward, weird, like weird shit. Shara Bullitt's not weird, but you know, he's so fast and kicks.

Hermanson in You is When, When is that?

February 10th Nice, yeah, so like 25 days or some shit like that, but not too far out.

That's a very good fight for you.

It's a very good fight for me. I think a lot of people will try to pull this experience bullshit again. And he's definitely my toughest fight on paper, and I think he will be my toughest test. But one thing's for sure, he better not let me get that one.

There it is, so it's a fight night at the Apex.

I'm an ugly motherfucker on TV man.

Nah, you look great.

That's nonsense.

The fucking Apex is the greatest place ever to see fights.

I like it, everybody's complaining that I keep fighting there, but I like it, man, I like hearing my shots, I like hearing that.

Well, you can hear your coach, you can hear your coroner, you can hear everything. It's the to me the like. When we were doing the Covid fights, when we were doing a lot of the fights from the Apex. And including like world title fights. Like Francis Ngannou when he beats Dipe, there was no crowd.

It was a fortunate time, man, it was a fortunate time to. I think, like, be in your position, like you're saying, right, you know, be able to be there. You've been around for so long though, man, like, you earned that, right.

Yeah.

Oh man, because he's on his way out. I love Jon Jones.

I love Jon Jones, too.

That dude is I hate when everybody, everybody so much sidesteps him, I know, because of that.

When he tore that PEC muscle, I was so bummed out, God damn, I wanted to see him. Versus D-pay.

Still hope, maybe.

Yeah, maybe, I mean.

Maybe late summer?

It seems like that's what they want to do, it seems like that's the fight that they want to do.

But he keeps vocalizing to Tom Aspinall, You know what I mean? And I feel like he already wrote, which we all kind of assume. But I think he'll have that fight with Stipe if Stipe's still hanging around.

Maybe or maybe he'll do Aspinall depending upon.

I don't think he has any interest, to be honest.

You don't think so? No, why not, man?

Was this recently?

Yeah, I thought this was the video, but this was like 11 weeks ago.

Wasn't this the day? This was the day out right after, or a couple days out after it happened? I think, that video.

Oh, okay, I'll find it. This is not recent, though, that punching thing is not recent. This was like two weeks ago, a week ago.

No, I think he's.

How old is John?

30.

A week ago, he had elbow surgery to shave off bones.

36.

When you start getting surgeries, when shit starts falling off.

Bro, that's me now, yeah.

Well, that one injury, for sure. John Jones said. He had surgery to shave bone Spurs in his left elbow.

So exactly that, right? So what I just told you about my pain in my elbow? I have like six or seven of those in my elbow right now. So imagine, and that's where all the nerves are. Yeah, yeah, so man, some days I got to, I'm in pain.

And they can't go in there and scoop those out.

Not before this fight.

After the fight, you think.

I'm definitely going to mention it, I'm definitely going to mention it.

Have you done any stem cells or anything for that?

So I had a torn labrum and I got some stem cells to try and fix that. And then, honestly, it really agitated it. Where, you know, and then the fight got announced and everything. So this fight is sooner than I wanted it to be in a way. But you don't say no to something like this like this is a good fight for me.

You had a broken left hand going into that fight.

I broke my left thumb in half, like right where the joint is, and I still went in there. And I remember my coach was like, Yo, we got to bite down, we just got to do this. Man, like, you do this, you're going back to the UFC. And it was the first time I ever worked with my head coach, John Marquez.

How far out did you break your thumb from the fight?

I think it was nine days.

Oh, god damn.

Jesus Christ so bro. When they grabbed my hand, like the medical tent, and they grabbed my hand, and I was like, ugh, but I wound up getting it. I took an XL glove or a double XL glove, because, you know, my hands aren't that big. But bro, it was terrible, it was terrible.

Did you find a way to tape it in some way?

Yeah, I mean, we still taped it up like it was a fight, right? So I still had tons of pain. But the pressure stopped me from feeling like it was like floating around. And I actually threw it like, maybe three or four times in that fight, just out of like, habit. But yeah, I mean, first, fight back, urinate months, break your left hand. I had the X-ray for it.

Do you think, like, maybe I shouldn't play basketball? maybe I shouldn't do stuff?

Yes, I don't plan on it, but, you know, so yeah. But here's the thing my theory on life could be wrong. I don't want to cheat myself along the way to do the things that I still love.

Oh, Joe, don't do that.

But that's me, bro, that's just I'm a thrill seeker.

Do you remember Diego Corrales?

No, I don't, no.

Followed boxing Diego Corrales was like he was involved.

Is he the guy that's a paraplegic?

No, he's dead now. Oh, he died in a motorcycle accident.

Good job, Joe.

He was a big boxer, he's famous for. The one fight Was it Jose Luis Castillo? Is that what it was? He had this fight with Jose Luis Castillo? It was like one of the greatest displays of guts because he was out man.

Yeah.

Watch this. I mean, Corrales left eye is completely swollen, shut, can't see shit, gets dropped twice, looks like he could barely stand.

Yeah, you're not recovered.

He looks bad.

His legs don't look.

And Castillo's a very big puncher.

Boy, Castillo's looking to finish this thing up. Yeah, he looks like he's with it.

And he gets clipped again.

Oh, he's got him.

I mean, this is really like Mickey Ward in a turo gatti.

Castillo punched himself.

And then all of a sudden, all of a sudden, he comes back. I think I've never seen anything quite like this.

Yeah, I mean, Castillo's done, see that look on his face.

But it's crazy if you think about how done Corrales was, then the referee stops it right there.

Yeah, he stops.

I mean, crazy, crazy, crazy comeback. Well, Diego was a wild fella. Yeah, that's crazy, and he died on a motorcycle.

Yeah, so I've heard so many bad stories.

I'm not worried about you, I'll get scared. I'm worried about the variabilities of the other people on the road, the people I can't control. Texting, driving, you're drunk and all that nonsense.

Well, it makes you feel better. I don't have one right now. Good, nice, and I got rid of it.

You're going to ride the bike right into the house.

I was going to sit it in the living room, but I didn't do it, so I got rid of it. Yeah, but yeah, I'm a thrill seeker man, I love cars.

Well, you tell me about your Evo.

Yeah, I got that Evo 8 baby wide body, yeah, yeah, big turbo.

You got a picture of it?

Yeah, I do, dude, it's nice.

Send it to Jamie, you get an airdrop to him, that's a great car.

All right, cool, because I got my tag on that.

Those are great cars, so you built that, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it had a 4G64 and now I'm going 4G63..

For people who don't know, explain what that car is.

So that car is an all-wheel drive 2006 Mitsubishi Evo.

It's a wild little car man, super light, crazy handling.

Did I not save your number, Jamie? I'm going to send it to you, Joe.

Okay, send it to me. Does the airdrop work? Can you see Jamie on the airdrop?

All right, let me see. Yeah, one second.

I'm looking through your Instagram too. You had other awesome cars on there, but not the Evo.

Jamie, There he is. MacBook Pro, Yep, cool.

Got it?

Got it?

That's a wild little car, dude.

So it was built, the body and the paint, that's an actual P1 McLaren paint job, it's the real, actual paint of it. And obviously it's got the Voltex on there, the wheels. So I bought the car built as is, with a 4G64 in it, but now it has a 4G63..

How many horsepower does that thing have?

That setup was the 4G64 block, so that made estimated from what I was told from who I bought it from that it made 808.

That's so crazy that car's got to weigh 2,000 pounds.

Now, man, let me tell you what does it weigh? It's like almost 4,000 pounds.

Really, it's that heavy.

Yeah, I think it's 38 to 4,100 pounds, something like that, dude, that is you like my tag?

808 horsepower is nuts.

It's the most agile car, so I've driven the Lamborghini Aventador, which was a dream car of mine, thanks to royalty exotics in Vegas. They always hook me up every fight.

I was trying to find your car, that's a wild car, man, yeah.

That was the first Corvette I ever bought, it was a C5 Z06, stock as hell.

Oh, those are fun cars, though.

It was a turd.

They're fun, though they're kind of plasticky.

Yeah, yeah, the interior sucks, but you know what I have to say, my dream car was a C6 Z06. I wound up getting one and then I didn't like the interior compared to that one.

Well, Corvette nailed it with the new interior. The new interior is perfect, yeah.

So the new interior is cool, but I hate the C8 look. Because they took away from the traditional long snout, you know, rear-wheel drive, now it's a mid-engine short snout. I'm not a fan of it and I can't fit in it very well, right? so I don't like it.

It's wild what you can do with some of those Japanese cars. Like with some of the things that people do to GTRs, yeah, like they have GTRs that are like 2,000 horsepower. Yeah, it's insane.

It's fucking insane. Have you ever been to a drag strip? Yes, yeah, you've raced.

No, I've never driven a car on a drag strip.

Now would you?

No, I'm not interested in doing that.

No.

I've seen too many of them go like this, whee bang.

Oh, like, float up in the air. Yeah, oh man, yeah, that's scary. I think you're making a little bit more than 1,000 horsepower, though, doing that.

Oh, to go up in the air like that.

I mean, you probably got, they probably got no weight in that thing, like, you know what I mean, I'm not gutting a car, I don't want to.

I saw a 67 Corvette recently. Do that on YouTube or Instagram or something like that. Just took to the air, just the guy was just and then up in the air.

See, I'll get out of it. I'm not that ballsy, like, if I start feeling like I'm lifting on that, what do you got, Jamie?

Let me see. Yeah, that's a scary proposition. When you're going that fast in a straight line, your car just catches air.

What's the fastest you've been in a car?

On a racetrack, yeah, I think I was 178, 179..

Pump those numbers up, baby.

Yeah, no, I'm good. Look at that thing catching air, look at that guy, that guy's launching through the fucking air.

That guy said, Fuck it, full send, Hey, what a great wow look at that.

That's nuts, though, that's crazy, but yeah, he was fully in the air.

That dude did some good shit in his life to not die there.

Yeah, right, look at that. He was fully in the air.

Bro, I'd be so mad, I'd be so upset. I love that car too, my car's messed up now.

Such a beautiful car.

I've been watching Car Masters on Netflix. Oh, okay, yeah, I don't know if you've ever watched it. No, I haven't watched it, bro. It's like they take like rust buckets, pieces of shit like everybody would write off.

Oh, wow.

So it's pretty cool. Yeah, I love watching that stuff, that's like what I watch before I go to bed.

Yeah, I love cars. Yeah, I mean, it's going to be a sad day when there's no cars because I feel like that's coming. I feel like they're trying the World Economic Forum and all these fucking psychos are trying to make it so that no one owns a car. I hate Tesla.

No, I mean, I hate them as far as, yeah, like, I've driven them. I don't like it, I don't like the automatic braking, I don't like all the gadgets. It's like a big ass iPad and stuff.

No, obviously with the Evo, but I do love muscle cars. If I had to choose, like one car that gives me the most joy, it's old muscle cars.

Do you have a particular car?

Not really, I like them all.

You don't have a favorite out of everything you've got, you don't have a specific.

No, I have a 70 Chevelle that I fucking love. Yeah, it's so raw, it's a 454 and it's pumped up, It's got like 650 horsepower.

That's exactly what my neighbor had, he had a chevelle and that's what started it for me. I remember being maybe six, seven years old and we were poor man. My parents, combined, never made more than 30,000 in a household of seven combined.

And it's the sound, the feel of those things, too. When I was, I think I was like 16. A buddy of mine picked me up, uh, in his friend's car, and his friend, uh, they they were, you know, just pick me up. We're going to go somewhere. And his friend had a 70 Chevelle and it was perfect.

You remember how old you were? I think I was 16..

I was in high school, for sure, and I remember. He ran out of gas and coasted. He ran out of gas at the perfect time and coasted right into the gas station. And it was like, this guy's the coolest guy that's ever lived, he ran out of gas.

And here's what I like about the the the car people, the car world. Because if you're a car guy somewhere along the line, I mean, especially if you're building your own cars, your blue collar, right? Like, they could teach you shit, you know, I have these nerds today, they're calling triple A, or, I don't know, fucking double A.

That is the thing with modern cars, you open them up and it's a computer. There's just so much going on in there, and, you know, there's an ECU that's powering everything.

Not unless you've got a standalone, that's true.

You know, Gordon Ryan? Yes, Gordon Ryan is now obsessed with vipers. He's trying to get me to buy one of these Calvo vipers.

Dude, that's my dream car 2017, Dodge Viper, ACr. You've seen the Fucking Pennzoil commercial, yes.

I'm like, find that commercial man, that car is a monster, but there's a company, it's Calvo, right?

Yeah, it's got to be.

Yeah.

They're around the country.

CalVo Right? There's one company that's in town that jacks them up to like, 2,000 horsepower.

Oh man, dude, this shit makes me want to cry. Pennzoil Films Presents I can't wait one day.