Israel-Lebanon Border Escalation, Ukraine Peace Summit, Military Healthcare Deserts

2024-06-17 00:14:42

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Israel pauses daytime fighting in Rafah as attacks intensify on the Lebanese border.

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Can a wider war with the Iranian-backed Hezbollah militia be avoided?

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Most of the 90 countries at a Swiss summit trying to broker peace in Ukraine supported

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the final declaration calling on Russia to withdraw from Ukrainian territories.

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We don't have time for prolonged war.

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Why did some nations hold out and can anything be achieved without Russian input?

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And an NPR investigation finds 50% of American military bases in the U.S. are located in

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what's known as health care deserts.

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That means one in three troops and their families live in areas where a private medical facility

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Israel's military announced Sunday it will pause fighting during daytime hours along

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a route in southern Gaza.

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That's in order to help deliver a backlog of aid that's piled up at one of the few border

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crossings into Gaza, which has been the scene of an intense Israeli military campaign since

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Hamas fighters based there attacked Israel last October.

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The people trapped in Gaza are desperate for food, medical supplies, water, and fuel in

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a worsening humanitarian crisis as the war enters its ninth month.

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For more, we bring in NPR's Kat Lonsdorf in Tel Aviv.

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So, Kat, this was announced yesterday, this daytime pause.

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Can you tell us more about it?

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Yeah.

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So, this is a pause in fighting applying to just around seven miles of road in the Rafah

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area in the south from the hours of 8 a.m. to 7 p.m.

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It's not an overall ceasefire, which is what many in the international community, including

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the U.S., have been calling for.

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The point is to allow for safe travel for aid trucks from the Krem Shalom crossing in

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southern Israel.

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That's the main entry point for aid now further into Gaza.

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But for the past month or so, aid groups have been telling us that even if aid can get in

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there, it has been extremely difficult for them to reach it, to be able to distribute

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it, because there's been just so much fighting happening around that main road into Rafah.

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So, the Israeli military says this daily pause is meant to help with that.

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Okay.

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Any sense of how it's gone so far?

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Well, it's still a bit too early to know.

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A spokesperson for the U.N. Agency for Palestinian Affairs told NPR this morning that, quote,

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law and order and conditions on the ground didn't allow them to take advantage of the

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pause yesterday.

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He said the environment on that stretch of road is still extremely complex.

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You know, aid groups have told us that trucks have been being looted there.

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Our colleague, Daniel Estrin, is down at the Krem Shalom crossing on the Israeli side on

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a press tour with the Israeli military right now.

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He says that the Israeli military told reporters that more than a thousand trucks worth of

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aid are waiting at the border, but blamed the U.N. and other aid groups for not doing

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their part.

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You know, Daniel asked how the Israeli military would protect aid trucks into Gaza, and the

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spokesperson didn't really elaborate.

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For Palestinians in Gaza, everything, as far as we can tell, is still just as difficult

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as it has been.

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Yesterday was the first day of the Muslim holiday Eid al-Adha.

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It's a holiday of feasting, traditionally marked by the sacrifice of a sheep or a goat.

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But our producer in Gaza, Anas Baba, told us that it's nearly impossible to find meat

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there.

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Instead, he managed to find some canned fava beans to mark the holiday.

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You've also been keeping an eye on another possible war on Israel's border with Lebanon

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between Israel and the Iranian-backed militia Hezbollah.

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What have you been hearing about that?

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Well, it's been getting increasingly tense up there.

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Last week, we saw the highest exchange of fire between the two sides since they started

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this kind of low-grade war last October.

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Hezbollah pounded northern Israel with more than 200 rockets in just one day last week.

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Israel's military spokesperson warned late yesterday night of a greater escalation.

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He said it could, quote, have devastating consequences for Lebanon and the entire region.

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And Israeli officials have been very clear that they are prepped and ready for another

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offensive and that they will not tolerate these attacks by Hezbollah much longer.

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So it seems more and more of a real possibility that another war could start.

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Meanwhile, there's been a lot of Israelis who are not happy with Prime Minister Benjamin

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Netanyahu.

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How's that been playing out?

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Well, there have been huge protests across the country.

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This weekend here in Tel Aviv was one of the largest since the war in Gaza started in October.

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People are calling for the government here to get the remaining 120 hostages home from

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Gaza and more broadly calling for new elections here in the fall.

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Many feel that as long as Netanyahu is in charge, the war in Gaza will continue.

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And Israel is suffering losses in Gaza.

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More than 300 soldiers have been killed since late October and eight Israeli soldiers died

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in Gaza on just Saturday alone.

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It's the highest number in many months.

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So the cost of this war is weighing heavily on many Israelis, especially with another

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possible war looming.

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That is NPR's Kat Lonsdorf in Tel Aviv.

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Kat, thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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Switzerland hosted a summit this weekend organized by Ukraine and intended to set the foundation

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for future peace negotiations.

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Envoys and leaders of more than 90 nations participated and most signed a statement saying

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Ukraine's borders must be respected in any deal to end the war.

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But Russia wasn't invited and one of its backers, China, declined to attend.

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Joining us now to discuss this is NPR's Ukraine correspondent, Joanna Kakissis, who is in

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Kyiv.

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Joanna, since Russia was not there, I mean, how does this summit get any closer to a peaceful

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resolution of this war?

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So, A, this summit was not supposed to be about negotiating peace because, as you said,

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Russia was not invited.

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But what this gathering tried to do instead is try to build solidarity among participating

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nations to support Ukraine's vision of peace.

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Ukraine needs as many nations as possible to support its conditions for any future peace

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talks as leverage against Russia.

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These conditions include issues of global concern, such as food security and nuclear

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safety, as well as the return of thousands of deported Ukrainian children and prisoners

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of war.

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Ukraine also insists that Russian troops must withdraw from all Ukrainian land.

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Eighty of the 92 nations participating in the summit signed a communique supporting

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this.

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Okay, so who did not sign this statement and why?

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Well, A, India, Mexico, South Africa and Saudi Arabia were among the nations that did not

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sign.

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These are countries that have maintained official neutrality during this war.

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Here's Saudi Foreign Minister Faisal bin Farhan al-Saud.

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Any credible process will need Russia's participation.

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We hope the outcomes of this summit reflect those aims.

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Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky said Russia wasn't invited because it started this

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war and because its demands to end it are unreasonable.

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So what are those demands?

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Well, Russian President Vladimir Putin said Ukraine must give up not only the land that

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Russia currently occupies, but also land under Ukrainian control and that Ukraine must drop

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its NATO bid.

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U.S. National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan responded to Putin's demands at the summit.

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No responsible nation can say that is a reasonable basis for peace.

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It defies the U.N. charter.

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It defies basic morality.

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It defies basic common sense.

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Many Western leaders say you can't have peace until Putin is forced to see that the costs

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of Russia's war on Ukraine outweigh its benefits.

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And right now, the war has many benefits for the Kremlin, especially the longer it drags

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on.

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Yeah, the war is well into its third year.

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Do Ukrainians have any hope the summit will end it soon?

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Well, you know, from what we've heard from reporting all over Ukraine, Ukrainians are

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tired and pessimistic.

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We spoke to a soldier.

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His name is Serhii.

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He declined to give his last name for security reasons.

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But he said he didn't see how the summit would help end the war quickly.

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He told us that the longer the war goes on, the more hopeless soldiers and the rest of

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society feel.

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He says his fellow soldiers are exhausted by long deployments and are losing the energy

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to fight a war with no end in sight.

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And during his closing remarks at the summit, President Zelensky made it clear that he knows

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the clock is ticking.

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He says preparation for a second summit has already begun and that he's pushing to end

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a war that is threatening his country's very existence.

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The United States military has its own health care system for troops and their families.

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But an NPR investigation found that 50 percent of U.S. military bases are located within

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what's called a federally designated health professional shortage area, basically a health

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care desert.

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NPR's Quill Lawrence joins us now to explain.

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So Quill, how did you come to that conclusion and that stat, 50 percent?

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Well, so each year the government identifies these areas nationwide where health care is

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really hard to find.

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And along with NPR's Brent Jones, we mapped these so-called health care deserts for primary

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care, mental health care and maternity care.

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And we put that map on top of a map of all the U.S. military bases.

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And we found that half of the Army, Navy, Air Force and Marine camps, forts, bases listed

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on that are in at least one of those health care deserts.

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Some are in all three.

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And you can look at that map at NPR.org.

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But these bases, I mean, they have military hospitals and clinics of their own, don't they?

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Yes, some do.

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They're very expensive.

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In the past decade, the Pentagon has really tried to cut those costs and downsize its

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medical care.

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And part of that, what they did was outsource it to private civilian care.

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But I don't know if you've tried to get a new doctor lately.

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Yeah, it's a chore.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's not easy because there's no slack in the civilian health care system.

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And that's what the Pentagon has discovered.

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So in half of these bases and population-wise, that came out to one in three troops and their

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families outside their base, there is a health care desert.

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Wow.

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So what does the Pentagon say?

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The Defense Health Agency, DHA, sent us a statement.

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They said that when care is not available, they try other methods like telehealth or

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they'll bring traveling providers or they'll pay for patients to travel either to other

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military or civilian care.

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But an internal memo that NPR obtained has shown that the Pentagon knows that the downsizing

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has gone too far and it didn't actually save them money.

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And they think they need to reverse course, hire more clinicians.

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That's going to take a lot of time.

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And one of the big issues is TRICARE, which is the insurance that military families and

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retirees use when they pay for civilian care.

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It pays at the same as Medicare rates.

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So a lot of doctors and hospitals are reluctant to take them.

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And I've heard this from dozens of military families and retirees nationwide.

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One crazy example, I talked with a military wife up at Fort Drum in upstate New York or

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along the Canadian border.

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And I thought I was going to go have to interview her up there, but I didn't because she drove

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seven hours down here to New York City, which was the only place she could find a specialist

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to get her daughter treated.

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Wow.

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What does this mean for the U.S. military?

2Speaker 2
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Yeah, well, the military needs a healthy force to fight wars and defend the country.

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And they also need to be keeping enough doctors and nurses and medics trained up in case of

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a war.

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But right now they're in a recruitment slump.

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So if you plan on having a family, this might really discourage you from joining or staying

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in the military if you're going to be ordered to go live in one of those health care deserts.

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The VA has been combining with some military facilities.

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There's some civilian military partnerships as a possible solution.

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That's what we're going to try and report on next.

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All right.

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That's NPR's Quill Lawrence.

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Quill, thanks.

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Thank you, Ray.

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