Trump’s Surprising Announcement (Ep 2071)

2023-08-21 00:56:24

He’s a former Secret Service Agent, former NYPD officer, and New York Times best-selling author. Join Dan Bongino each weekday as he tackles the hottest political issues, debunking both liberal and Republican establishment rhetoric.

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Get ready to hear the truth about America on a show that's not immune to the facts with

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your host, Dan Bongino.

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I'm like, I'm telling you, I'm like, how come I don't hear you?

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Because I got you on the Westwood one radio.

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That's why.

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Man, what a weekend.

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I hope you all enjoyed that concert with John Rich.

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That was just the best time.

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I had way, way too much fun this past weekend.

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I just got off the phone with a friend of mine from Westwood one, the company I work

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with in radio.

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She was like, how you doing?

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I'm like, I am doing, I am ready to be back on the air.

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I feel like even though it was only off a day, I feel like it's been a month, but what

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a weekend.

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A big thank you to everyone who was a part of a revolution in music entertainment this

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past weekend.

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We did something really special.

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I've got that.

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I've got Trump's big decision about the debates.

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Notice I said plural and what that could really mean.

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I'll give you the good, the bad and the indifferent, but there's something about it.

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I think that has a lot of people freaked out because the tides have already turned.

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I'll explain.

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You don't accept a lot of simplistic explanations on this.

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I've had an evolution on this one as well with Trump.

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Big show, a lot to talk about.

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Joe, is this the last day of the Kenny Bell?

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Yes, it is.

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All right.

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Yes, sir.

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Yes, sir.

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To the Kenny Bell.

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Yes, sir.

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It is showtime.

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We're still working on our tech.

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Guy's going deaf over there.

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I just want you to know.

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Guy's poor eardrums.

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He needs earmuffs.

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I got a bunch of thank yous.

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First, to all of you all for coming out, 40,000 people watched our concert live here with

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John Rich.

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The album, as you can see, is number one, and you want to talk about being part of a

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revolution in entertainment and the biggest double-barreled middle finger to the music

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industry ever, Oliver Anthony's song with no, no old-school liberal country music.

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That whole business has gone woke except for quite a few people, right?

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Oliver Anthony's song is number one.

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You got that picture, Guy?

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And John Rich's album is number one.

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We did this all, you, together, where it is right there.

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Number one album, The Country Truth by John Rich, download it if you haven't.

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Number one song, Rich Men of Richmond, and here, you want another middle finger to them

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all?

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Number two is Oliver Anthony.

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Number three is Jason Aldean.

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Try that in a small town.

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And John has the number one album.

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Is that not a kick in the balls towards old-school wokeism?

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We don't need these people.

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You're part of a revolution.

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This is all happening.

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I want to tell you just a couple funny stories about what happened.

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So I had partied way too hard this weekend in Nashville, man.

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We were like, Guy knows the story, I barely made it to the Saturday night show.

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We were out all night Friday, and Saturday, I'm like, take it easy, you're going to do

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the show.

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Saturday morning, how I got out of the hotel room, I don't even know.

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But we went on this little tour in Nashville with my friends.

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So I go to this antique store to pick up an antique microphone, and it's like noon, the

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sun's in my eyes.

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I'm like, ah, like a Nosferatu vampire or something.

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I see this cat in the street with this Don't Get Dead shirt on.

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I'm like, what the hell?

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This is crazy.

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He sees me, make eye contact.

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I run over, I'm like, dude, that's a cool shirt, man.

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He's like, I can't believe it.

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So this guy, Jordan, I invited him to the show.

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He wasn't even in town for the show.

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He was just in town for a separate reason.

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And we invited him to the show, he made it.

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We had a blast.

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Hat tip to him.

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This is the crew, John and me, we were maybe partying way too much at John's Bar.

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It was John Rich, Devin Nunes, Cash Patel, a friend of theirs, and me.

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We had a good time, man, on Friday, way into Saturday.

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And then Saturday night, late at night, I decide maybe I should go home.

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It's like 11 o'clock and get some sleep before I head back.

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So I decide I'm going to pop in across the street to Kid Rock's Bar.

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And security guy's like, Dan, his name's Bobby Richie.

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He's like, Bobby's upstairs.

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Why don't you come say hello?

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So we wound up hanging out with Kid Rock till like 2 o'clock in the morning.

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So here's my friends.

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Folks, it was a crazy weekend.

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We had so much fun.

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And I promise you, we're going to be doing more road shows.

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Listen, people in the chat, 25,000, we're only five minutes in.

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You all are amazing.

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Chatsters, Bongino Chatsters, yes, you want another road show?

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Or no, you don't want another road show?

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Let me know, because I may come to a town near you.

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I'm not so skinny.

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Who said that in the chat?

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Dan, you're so skinny.

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Patriot girl.

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I'm 210 pounds.

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Do I look skinny?

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I mean, look at this.

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Skinny, isn't it skinny?

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I got abs.

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Skinny?

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Come on, I'm skinny.

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That's like the biggest insult ever.

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We love you, Patriot girl, but I'm definitely not skinny.

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Yes, yes to the road show.

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Look at you all.

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Check this out.

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No, who said no?

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There was a no in there.

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What are you all?

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There we go.

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Wow.

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Like that shot.

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I'm not skinny.

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Joe, am I skinny?

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Thank you.

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I'm not skinny.

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Thank you.

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But Patriot girl, I get it.

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I guess that's a compliment.

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One more quick thank you.

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Well, actually a couple.

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Stewart.

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We ran into Stewart and his wife.

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They gave us a backup Muttley

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in case the original Muttley can't perform

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and that the arm doesn't work out too well.

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So this is the relief of what we call him,

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the bullpen Muttley.

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So in order to discriminate between original Muttley

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and bullpen Muttley, thanks to Stewart,

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we put a B on him for bullpen Muttley

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in case the other one's arm is tired.

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We got Muttley's in the chat.

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Here we go.

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Let's don't mix him up with original Muttley.

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And then thank you to Alex,

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the security guy over at TriStar.

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He did a great job keeping us safe this weekend, man.

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I appreciate it.

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All right.

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I got a big show, man.

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We got a lot of stuff to talk about.

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If I still sound intoxicated from Friday night,

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that's a possibility.

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That's a possibility.

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I probably consumed about two bottles

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of John Rich's whiskey on Friday night alone

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and then continued into Saturday.

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So onto the series.

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I'm kidding.

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I feel great today.

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I feel pretty good.

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I had a good workout this morning too.

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A squat deadlift day.

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Hey, Donald Trump put out a big decision this week

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and we all kind of knew he wasn't going

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to attend the Fox debate coming up this week.

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I should say Fox Rumble debate

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because if you want to see it,

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it'll be online with Rumble as well.

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The debate will be alive on Rumble.

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I don't know.

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Some of you might not want to watch Fox.

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I don't know.

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It's up to you.

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I'm picking a side there.

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I'm an investor in Rumble.

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Watch it wherever you want,

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but it'll be on Rumble as well, exclusively digitally.

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But we all kind of knew Trump wasn't going to attend that,

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but he put out a true social post at Real Donald Trump.

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And he's like, hey, listen,

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I will therefore not be doing the debates,

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like plural, like any debates, which, okay.

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Let's talk through this

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because there's a lot going on here.

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Listen, I haven't changed my initial opinion

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on Trump in debates, okay?

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I don't like lick my finger

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and see where the wind blows or anything like that, right?

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I don't do that stuff.

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I still think Trump is the best debater out there.

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He is.

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He's just like, I call him the Lion King in debates.

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He just takes over.

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You have to remember, a debate is a performance.

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Ah, is he the best on white paper stuff and facts and data?

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Maybe not.

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I think we can all agree, right?

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Fair assessment guys, like sometimes they're like,

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but it doesn't matter.

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Like if white papers and data won you the presidency,

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you would have been talking to President Mitt Romney, okay?

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That's not the way this works.

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Sometimes I wish it did work the other way,

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but it doesn't.

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A debate is more of a performance.

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There is no greater performer than Donald Trump.

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So I think on the upside,

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one of the reasons that he should possibly

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at least attend a debate at some point

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is he's not just,

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forget about the Republicans on stage for a moment.

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He's up by a lot.

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He just is, folks.

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Listen, you're not gonna get me to crap on DeSantis

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or Ramaswamy.

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I'm not doing that.

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DeSantis is a great governor.

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Vivek's a great candidate.

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You know, I'm not a fan of Christie,

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Tim Scott, not so much either,

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but I'm not gonna crap on these guys.

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I'm just telling you,

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he's just really far ahead in the polls.

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So forget about the other Republicans for a minute.

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The reason I think the debate would have been good for him,

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at least one of them,

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is it's not just Republicans watching.

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There are a lot of independents who love Donald Trump

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who would like to see him on stage talk about his record.

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So it's kind of a positive and negative.

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Now, here's the reason on the con side,

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I can't argue with the guy at all.

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And let me know what you think in the chat.

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I mean, you think he should, you know,

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give me a yes if you, you know, a big all caps yes,

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if you think he should attend or an N if you don't.

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I'd love to hear your opinion,

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but who's calling me skinny?

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Oh, we have to ban him immediately.

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No, I'm kidding.

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It's a free speech platform.

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I'm kidding.

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I'm kidding.

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By the way, just so you know,

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that it, Joe, would you agree?

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The greatest insult to a guy who lifts weights

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is to tell them they're skinny?

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But I'll tell you, I have a lens to start.

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It was lens to start.

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Thank you.

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Joe says it's a camera issue.

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He's blaming it on Guy.

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He's saying it's Guy's fault.

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I do audio.

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He's like, he did that.

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He's like, Joe said to me on audio, you're 225 pounds ripped.

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That's what he said.

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That's what he said.

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So a lot of nos, he shouldn't attend the debate.

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Here's why.

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Here's one of the reasons I think he shouldn't attend.

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Pro and con, you guys make the decision

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because you're all super smart, right?

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One of the reasons he shouldn't attend is

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there's this myth out there that everybody on stage

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is gonna go for Donald Trump

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and try to take out Donald Trump

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and he's not gonna be there to defend himself.

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And while I have no doubt that's gonna happen,

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there's gonna be a lot of people on stage

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trying to crap on Donald Trump.

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No diggity.

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Folks, there's only three lanes in this debate right now.

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I don't wanna oversimplify this.

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Guy, if you think I'm crazy here,

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I'm not explaining this right.

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You're always the hardest on me, tell me.

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There's only three lanes.

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There's the lane that's in front right now, the Trump lane.

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It's just his own thing.

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You got the Trump MAGA lane, okay?

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He dominates that.

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The second lane is gonna be the runner-up.

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Who is the runner-up?

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Who's gonna be the Rick Santorum to Romney?

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Who's gonna be the McCain to Bush?

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There's the runner-up lane.

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But then there's the third lane.

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There's the who wants a show on Fox News lane.

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They're not in this to win.

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They're just in this to get a show on Fox News.

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Come on, am I not right?

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There's three lanes.

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So folks, I'm not oversimplifying it.

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There are three lanes in this election.

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When you adjust to

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and you understand the three-lane theory,

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you'll understand why people are not dropping

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out of the race.

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Now, the reason in the debate

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Trump may be making a good decision

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is he doesn't care about the three-lane.

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Because they're not gonna,

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they're people who are gonna get 5%, 6% of the vote,

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but they may very well get a Fox News show

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or a talk radio show, excuse me.

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He doesn't care about the third lane.

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He does care about the two-lane though.

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Because for as far as he is ahead,

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there's always a possibility something could happen, always.

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And no smart politician should ever be like,

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oh, you know, it's wrapped up, I'm done, whatever.

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We can say that, they can't.

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So Trump is worried about the number two lane.

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So if Trump drops out of the debate,

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everybody's assuming everyone's gonna attack Trump.

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I think you're assuming wrong.

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I think they're gonna go after each other

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to clean out the number two lane

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and make sure they get on TV too.

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Look, in case you think I'm crazy,

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even the lefties are saying the same thing.

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Here's political playbook.

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Playbook is like the Bible of the left.

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They put out this email every morning.

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Guy, political playbook.

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Yeah.

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What's that?

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I know, Guy's like, the chat.

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You're like distracting Guy.

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We love you, the show's about you.

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Guy's so in love with the chat,

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he's not even paying attention to the show.

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Someone in the chat, wanna volunteer to do Guy's job?

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We can swap so Guy can chat the whole time.

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I know, that is, Justin was in the chat the other day.

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I saw him.

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He was, yeah, I saw him and he was Justin.

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I saw Justin DBS.

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Here it is, Politico.

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The jockeying to be the non-Trump GOP contender

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could get some clarity.

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Now, these are lefties,

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but what they're saying here is not crazy, right?

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They're talking about the two lane.

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One lane, Trump.

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Two lane, not Trump, number two Guy.

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Three lane, I want a Fox News show, I have no shot.

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They're saying if Trump's not there,

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that there could be knives out for DeSantis and Ramaswamy

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as the people who want the Fox News show

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try to cut him out at a number two spot.

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So it might be tactically a super smart thing for Trump

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to bail, say, I ain't doing this first one,

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let them take out DeSantis and Ramaswamy on stage

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and then maybe I'll come in later,

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tear it up with a couple number three people,

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just to get my name out there

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and give you all a little taste of the Trumpster.

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That's it.

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I gotta tell you, not the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

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Pretty smart strategy at this point.

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You know, but again, I'm balancing equities.

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A lot of you seem to agree at this point

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that he shouldn't do the debate, but he really is.

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He's like a great debater.

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And I think a lot of the independents out there

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would see what was going on with him and his campaign

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if he was on stage.

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We'll see what happens with that.

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Now, you gotta remember, we're looking at all of this also

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in terms of the Biden nightmare continuing.

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Ladies and gentlemen,

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we are in a really, really perilous spot, man.

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We are just, oh my gosh,

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we got 51,000 people already at 1115.

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Oh, you guys are awesome out there.

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Hold on, I need some water.

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We ever had this many people this early?

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This is so nuts.

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You guys are so great.

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I mean, I love this.

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This is why I can't wait to get on the air with you guys,

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especially in a chat, ladies out there.

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Remember all of this in terms

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of the Biden nightmare continuing.

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This thing is going on on the Republican side,

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which is a good thing.

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Primaries are good things.

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I can't say that enough.

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You're seeing it now.

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The primary will decide, and by the way,

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the primary voters will decide

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if Trump not showing up in the debates matters.

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Since Trump said he wasn't gonna show up for the debate,

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his poll numbers have gone up.

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So I don't understand where this argument

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that if he doesn't do the debates,

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he's gonna lose voters comes from.

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Does any, I mean, you guys, where does that,

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I mean, look at Fetterman,

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and Fetterman, who's cognitively not even there,

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the senator from Pennsylvania.

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You remember the stunt he pulled, guys?

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He waited all the way to the end

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till everybody had already voted by mail.

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He did, what, one debate.

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It was the worst performance I've ever seen.

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He told people goodnight the minute he got in, and he won.

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So, I mean, I'm sorry.

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I'm just not buying the argument

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that the debate's gonna be some massive game changer

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for anyone else.

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I'm just not buying it.

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You gotta show me some evidence there.

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They do, that's true.

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There's an element of like the entertainment factor,

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Guy's right, that people just wanna see Trump on stage

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because it's just so freaking entertaining,

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and it's not like they're gonna change their vote, right?

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I think even, wouldn't you agree, folks,

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I'm sorry I'm spending time on this,

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but this is just, there's so much in this debate thing

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outside of just a simple debate.

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It's about bigger things here.

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Guy's right.

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It's just, even anti-Trump people who hate him

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wanna see him on stage because they can't stop watching.

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It's that old Howard Stern thing.

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Why do Howard Stern fans listen to this show?

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Because they wanna hear what he's gonna say next.

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Why do people who hate Howard Stern listen?

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Because they wanna hear what he's gonna say next.

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If you ever watch that movie, you'll see that.

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But this is all happening

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while the Biden nightmare is going on right now.

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Folks, it broke this week that now,

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actually, Miranda Devine broke this a long time ago.

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It's kind of a shame you're only hearing about this now.

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To be fair to her and her book, Laptop from Hell,

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which I published, just disclosure there.

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You gotta do that stuff.

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It's the right thing to do.

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Hunter Biden and Joe Biden were communicating

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under a fake name with Joe Biden.

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Ladies and gentlemen, this changes everything.

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Because you have to remember,

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whatever's been FOIAed or subpoenaed at this point

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under the name of emails to Joe Biden,

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if now we have an entirely different data set,

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because we have this name, Robert L. Peters,

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this is where it could get really ugly for Biden.

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I want you to listen to this clip

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from Comer with Maria Bartiromo.

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And there's an important component to this.

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I don't want you to miss.

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I always like to highlight this stuff,

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because sometimes in these interviews,

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it flies over everybody's head,

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not just because there's so much going on.

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You're like drinking from a firehose.

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The argument so far has been that Joe Biden

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had nothing to do with Hunter Biden's business,

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and, and, and, that Hunter Biden

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was not a government employee.

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Well, if Hunter Biden wasn't a government employee,

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