An Interview with Will Ferrell

I'm Jenna Fisher.

And I'm Angela Kinsey.

We were on the office together and we're best friends, and now we're doing the ultimate office rewatch podcast just for you.

Each week, we will break down an episode of The Office and give exclusive behind-the-scenes stories that only two people who were there can tell you.

We're the office ladies.

How are ya?

I'm very excited.

Well, I'm excited before we get to it, you're having a super cute hair day.

Oh my gosh lady, I got my hair cut and I got it colored, and so it's like, very frosh.

You look saucy and frosh, thank you.

Well, it's good timing, too, because we have a special guest today.

We do.

You guys.

It's like six years old.

It's so cute.

Because I can't take a compliment. You're like, I like your sweater, and I was like, it's really old.

Well, the point is, we look really stinking cute today and it's a good thing because someone's here.

Yeah, we zhuzhed up because we have a guest here today is Will Ferrell, otherwise known as D'Angelo Vickers. We thought we would do a little. I don't know summary of Will Ferrell, but come on, you guys all know him.

You know, he's also been in a gazillion movies, I was in a movie with him, Blades of Glory. He's also been in Elf, Anchorman, Kicking and Screaming, Teledega Nights, Semi-pro, Step Brothers. And he received Golden Globe nominations for his roles in The Producers and Stranger Than Fiction and for producing Vice.

Also, he has done so many voiceovers. If you guys like the LeGo movies, like My kids, then you know he was Lord Business and he was hilarious. He might be the funniest person on the planet, Jenna, He might be one of the funniest people I've ever met. This is true.

We got to spend over an hour chatting with him, we talked about his time in the office, but we also just talked about life and-.

All kinds of things.

All kinds of things. It was really fun. He's just, oh my gosh, he's everything I remembered him to be when we worked with him.

So nice, so funny, but just a charming human to be around.

Well before we get to that interview, we do have a little announcement, a little office lady's business. Yeah, we are taking the next two weeks off.

That's right, we have our kids spring break and I'm doing a movie.

Drum roll Jenna's doing a movie, Yes, I am Doing the Mean Girls movie musical for Paramount Plus, written by Tina Fey.

I can't wait to see it, it's going to be so great, you said. Tim Meadows is back.

Yes, Tim Meadows is in it, and I did walk hard with Tim Meadows, so I'm so excited.

And he was on the office. We love him.

I play Ms. Heron, I play Katie's mom. I have shot one day on the movie so far. But now I have to go back to do the bulk of my work over these next couple of weeks. I mean, just based on the one day I've done so far, I could not be more excited.

Two weeks.

All right, we're going to take a break and then we'll be back with Will Ferrell.

Woohoo.

Will's Here. I love the theme song, Thank you. Wait, you're best friends.

Mm-hmm, yes.

Was that pre the show or during the show?

During the show.

You guys became friends on the show.

Yes.

Wow, we became besties.

And maybe one of, if not the greatest, takeaway of doing the show in a weird way, right?

100, 100, that's what Steve said.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who was your best friend? Will?

From the office, Sure, that I made.

Because we're only that's the only context.

It's only office specific.

In those four episodes.

Who was your best friend from those four episodes? You can say Steve, you knew him before.

Yeah, I guess, I'll say, Steve.

Okay, yeah.

Since I knew him before, Okay, yeah.

Not creed, you and Creed aren't hanging out.

I didn't talk to Creed that much. No, I didn't talk to any. It was an interesting time.

Oh.

Oh.

This sounds like it's going to be a hard hitting.

It was an interesting time. Well, anyway.

We'll get there, yeah, we'll get there, I bet we have some questions that crack that open.

Best friend in real life?

You can say their first name only if you don't want to alienate all the other friends.

I'm going to say the initial J.

J has been there for you, yes, through thick and thin.

Thick and thin.

All right, well, here we go in preparing for this interview. Jen and I were googling, we were looking you up on the internet. I stumbled across something on your Wikipedia page that really cracked me up.

Let's see if it's-.

Okay.

If it holds muster.

Right, okay, they list all the types of acting genres that you were featured in.

Okay.

Ready? Here are the genres improvisational comedy, Mm-hmm, sketch comedy.

Wow, does that like-?

Those are all the things-.

That's the whole spectrum-.

You can do, I mean.-.

In comedy in a weird way, I mean, I love cringe cringe comedy and that I'm in anti-comedy, yes.

That's the one I didn't understand. What is anti-humor? anti-humor? I mean? is that not drama? I mean, it's a type of humor?

Or is it something that's actually really funny that that person thought was not funny and described it as anti-comedy?

I don't know.

I don't know this one, I couldn't tell if they were.-.

Things that go over people, I've never heard that ca-.

Yeah, I couldn't tell if they were praising you or throwing shade at you.

I love that it's on my Wikipedia page, which I obviously don't curate at all. But I'm going to now start telling people that's my specialty. Anti-comedy.

Anti-humor.

Look on Wikipedia, some people think it's there. Yeah, it's there, some people think it's deadpan. It's a real thing.

No, it's anti-comedy.

Anti-humor, it's anti-humor, anti-humor.

Well, will. Before we get started, I did want to introduce myself to you, Jenna Fisher.

Right, yes.

We did blades of glory together, we did the office. Yes, this is a little inside joke because I told a story on the podcast. I'm sure you don't remember, but early on in knowing you, every time I would run into you. After we did Blades of glory, I would say, Will, Hey Jenna Fisher, we did blades of glory, and at one event, you, finally, you took me by the hand.

I do I know you, you don't need to introduce me every time.

Oh, no.

I was like, I was like, Okay, well, you've worked with so many people.

You've done so many things.

I just thought, maybe I would help you recall me if needed.

Right?

It was really a sweet moment. Okay, you're like, you don't ever have to do this.

So I told her, I told her, when you showed up today, I was like, you have to introduce.

Yourself again.

Was there something else we worked on, too, or were those the two main things? You know, it's so funny. I felt like there was, I felt like there was, too.

But in googling us, I couldn't find it. What else have we done?

I thought there was something before blades.

Were you in step, brothers?

No, oh, but I was in that movie with Will Arnett and Will Forte, The Brother Solomon. Oh, the Brother Solomon.

I wasn't in that, but you weren't in that.

No, I know.

I went through my list of things.

They weren't looking for anti-humor.

No, I guess not, no.

So you didn't get the job?

The phone didn't ring.

Not for that one.

Not for that one.

No.

Here is a question we ask all of our guests How did you get your job on the office?

I got my job on the office I had called up my peeps.

Your posse?

My representation? No. I just thrown it out that I knew it was Steve's last year and I just said, God, I would love to do something. In that. Last season, I was thinking it'd be just a cameo or whatever, except for anything.

We were all just in our feelings.

Oh, yeah, and you should have been. So that's where I was like, I didn't talk to a lot of people because I didn't feel like.

You're like, I'm just going to stay out of the way.

I'm just going to stay out of the way because you guys are all having private moments. And it was almost, you know, it was like, sign my yearbook, end of year, make sure.

So I have such a distinct memory when we were doing Michael's Last Dundies. Yes, my character gets the award for Kind of a bitch and I had to go up there.

Sometimes.

And I was like, Yeah, yeah.

But I'll just never forget. I was like, Oh, this is going to be so hard. It's going to be so hard to come in and try to be like the new funny guy. And we're all just like.

Yeah.

We had a really fun fan. Question This question from Joanna S. Did anyone advise you not to take this role?

Oh, Joanna, No, no one, but I that makes me laugh.

Don't do it.

Don't do it.

Hey, you might want to.

Can we talk? You might want to.

Although, you might be great at it because there might be some anti humor.

Yeah, no, no one, no one advised me not to take the role, which you know previously, to what we were talking about. It was so fun to be there, too.

From our perspective, you folded into the show so naturally, oh good, like, so easily, and you were there that one episode after Steve had left.

Yes.

You stayed for one more, and oh my gosh, we were so happy to have you there.

Just as a little bit of a bridge.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And your energy is similar to Steve's. You guys are both so nice, right? And just your kindness and your humor. We were like, OK, good.

But singing the Rent song in the you know, in Steve losing it. I was like, if there was a camera on me, I'd be like, Oh, he's not acting, Oh, he's.

That Darren headlight is real.

I was like, Oh my god, OK, yeah, right, of course.

Yeah, and we were all crying. We were all looking at you because you were standing in the front of the room with Steve and we were all looking at you crying.

I am just now in this moment, yeah, like putting myself in your shoes and imagining what it must have been like for you to stand there. And Steve is crying next to you, we're all crying and you're just like.

DeAngelo Vickers, who has no emotional attachment? Then the more takes we did, then I started, it started getting to me too right.

And you're like, DeAngelo can't cry.

DeAngelo can't cry here, he doesn't, he doesn't have anything invested.

Here's another fan question OK, this is from Shell F. Had you watched the show before you came on?

Yes, I had watched the show many a time and yeah, I was a fan like everyone else and just loved. You know, all the stuff everyone was doing and all the the writing and the cast. And just as you guys know, kind of a perfect storm of all those things put together, which is why the combination of that and knowing Steve. But all of those things were the reason why I called up, I was like, gosh, would they would?

And you got to go play with one of your best friends. Yeah, exactly, yeah, exactly.

And that was so fun to revisiting the episodes, I had totally forgotten that first.

The first meeting between Michael and DeAngelo.

Where we're at the bar and calling each other and we don't realize it. And it was like I was watching them all for the first time. It was just so fun to see how well constructed that was. And just, yeah, so stupid.

Right, yeah.

Yeah, OK, this is actually a great time for me to share this with you. I saw online a list of fan favorite quotes from DeAngelo. OK, here are some really good ones top of the list.

What's really fun about having done those four shows is the gift that keeps on giving, which is the, you know, Greg and Paul obviously thought of that bit of the juggling without my juggling apparatus.

We got more mail about that scene.

Oh my gosh.

People want to hear everything you have to say about the juggling.

But I remember thinking, how and why did you guys think of it this way? I forget what their reason was. But that was just such a genius, weirdo thing that he still wants to show off his juggling.

Yes.

Without any juggling.

And I have now done that bit on stage no less than 20 times, really, because it's like a go-to.

Oh my gosh.

What's happened to them? All my juggling balls, I left them. In my other case, I don't know what to do and then coax the audience in, like, unless I could just do my act without them.

Do you do the balls invisibly on someone's head? Yes.

I'll pull someone out of the audience.

I love that.

And then I'll do that.

I believe that defies, like physics and gravity, it's not a possible move.

And then I'm like, stay as still as you can.

One of my favorite part of it is at the end, when it lands on the back of your head.

Yes, yes.

You're going to catch it there.

And Kevin's like, didn't drop a single ball.

So that was a highlight for sure. Yeah, for me, but also to just have to force you guys to watch it all. For how many takes that, I don't know.

I saw myself breaking in so many takes with you, so many I would see, and also not just me, but you would see. Shoulders like the shoulders are the dead giveaway and we were cracking up.

And I still can't juggle to this day. You can't, you're such a good fake juggler. It didn't give me well, it didn't like, spur me on to like, maybe I should really try juggling, like and just pretend like.

We have talked about this. Your character has such a great way that he introduces himself to everyone in the bullpen and we really wanted you to hear it. And then Jenna's going to share with you a second part that didn't make it in that we found in the shooting draft.

Okay.

Hi.

Hello.

Hello.

Hello, how are you Sir? I'm well sir. how are you? Can I just say I am so excited to be working here?

And there was this line where you would have said, I've never ridden a motorcycle. I've had chances, it just doesn't interest me. And I love the idea that in introducing yourself to someone, you include something that does not interest you. Like, here's some stuff about me.

Oh yeah.

Like, if I met a group of people I'd never met before, I might say, hi, my name is Angela. I grew up overseas. I like hummingbirds. I am not interested in anyone yelling at me when I exercise.

Okay, yeah.

Yeah.

I would probably say, Hi, I'm will. I'm from Orange County. I do enjoy vigorous exercise, but I have no interest in skydiving.

Don't talk to me about skydiving.

Did you?

No, do it, no.

I've never done it. No, no, I don't want to, yeah.

I don't want to do it.

No, I don't. No, yeah.

No, so if you were offered a film, right, or a project.

Right?

That involved a skydiving moment. You would say, hard pass. That's going to be a stunt person.

That's going to definitely be a stunt person.

You're going to need to find someone that looks just like me.

Yeah.

And have them fall from the sky because I'm not doing it.

Because even if I really got talked into it, because I don't know if you have. You guys had things where you're like, at first you were like, no way, hard pass, and then it's really safe. Want to do it this way and you're like, Okay, I can't. I don't know if I could look Vivica in the eye and be like, I'm just honey, I'm going to do this skydiving thing.

Your wife would be like, No.

Yeah, she's going to be like, Really is it that essential, right? Yeah, they can get someone else.

Yeah.

But you have done a lot of stuff.

I've done a lot of things that later, I was like, why did I?

Yeah.

Yeah, like I did, I was out in the wilderness with Bear Grylls on the Bear Grylls show, and I was hanging from a helicopter.

I saw that, I saw that.

And later I was like, I thought I didn't need to do that. Yeah, but I got wrapped up in trying to get Bear Grylls to like me.

Wow, I just watched the movie Downhill. Because I have recently become sort of a skiing fanatic. I just started skiing in my life during the pandemic. I'm slightly upset I'm leaving today after this interview to go to Utah to ski.

This is amazing, so wild to me.

You're taking it on right now in life, this is your life, yes.

I learned how to ski, put skis on my legs for the first time when I was 46.

Because most people learn at an early age, yes.

I grew up in Missouri, no skiing there.

Not even like a little Bunny hill, you know what?

I should say there is a place where you can ski.

But I mean, come on.

Right, come on, let's be honest.

It's not really skiing.

I'm skiing, Yeah, you're so good, I'm not skiing where I fall and do the fall.

There's a fall part, right? Yeah, are we cutting to you at the end when you're already on the ground after? I've hit my head on the thing?

That was me acting after I hit my head.

It was very good.

I'm going to add that to your Wikipedia.

Your Wikipedia paragraph injury comedy.

Which is again under the category of anti-humor.

It is, I think, that falls.

But no, all that other skiing.

Is you?

That's me, but Julia Louis-Dreyfus, she's an excellent skier.

She was very good in the film as well.

She can do the moguls and everything I can't quite do the moguls.

No, okay.

So the movie you're referring to we shot in Austria, and that's a whole other kind of.

Aggressive? It's a different cultural agreement.

It's seen as their national sport and so everyone skis, and there were times when you're. Because there's a certain etiquette in waiting in the lift line, where we give ourselves a little space. In between, there would be some guy would have his ski jammed in between my legs.

Like, hey.

To give the non-verbal like, hello. And this person just looked straight ahead and then keep scooting, like pressing against my shoulder blade. And I thought, Oh, this is just the way they do it.

So ski Austria.

So ski Austria, so I would do, I'm so sorry.

Is this like a paid commercial for Ski Austria? Were you here today? Is that why you're here?

I just have to mention a couple of things.

Did you bait me into talking about skiing?

If you fly into.

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I don't even know where we are.

I don't know where we are either.

I don't either, I love it.

I have something I read that when you were in college, you worked at a small town television station.

Yes, this was just local cable, oh, around. And about Orange County News.

Oh, I love that.

Seen by no one.

Was this before you had decided to go into acting, like? was this like, maybe I'll do this?

Well, I was.

Oh.

Real major.

What did you learn? That's like the class I took called Ideas of Mathematics. It was like me and the defensive line of a football team.

Oh, right, right, right.

We just talked about ideas of math, just ideas, general notions.

That was basically sports journalism degree.

Okay.

So that's kind of where I thought I was going to.

And you had press credentials, you could, like, get on the field and stuff.

You could get on the field and interview the coach and all the stuff like that. They were like, So we need someone to go do this. And everyone's hand shot up. And my first thought was like, What day is that?

Hmm.

Do I really?

Maybe I don't really want to do it.

Yeah, and it wasn't like, Oh gosh, I need that for my tape, which is what you have to have. Mine was more like, Who can I? I got to bring a friend to operate the camera. It's going to be a pain.

I can't wear shorts.

Right, I thought that's not a good sign. That kind of coincided with. I just started thinking, Oh, I'm going to have to try to go for this comedy thing because I keep thinking about...

Doing bits.

Doing bits and wanting to do it. And I would go. And I would sit at the improv in Irvine and sit in the back of the room at an open mic night and almost sign my name to the list. But be too afraid and go consecutive weeks and just watch three hours of comedy and sit there and think, Oh, that person, oh, they're terrible.

Yeah.

I'm much better than them.

They should have set it up like this.

Yeah, or ooh, they're really good and I would just like, kind of see what? So I was kind of doing that. I started taking my first class at the groundlings.

You found your passion.

And it was that I didn't really want to be.

There's about 15 goats here today.

Yeah, yeah, I'm in front of the Laguna beach, you know, it's like, super stiff and this and that. But I noticed when I filmed some of the goats, some of the footage, they looked like they were singing. So I did the story, as much of it as there was to tell a story, and then I just added opera music to these goats.

I could never do anything in front of a group of people without doing a bit. And you know, you can't do bits with strangers. For the most part, they don't land. But I was in charge of basically the minutes in my sorority.

My fraternity was a big stage for me.

Yes, so I had to get up and sort of say how the Pledge dance went and what everyone ate. And I just started doing all these bits and it was like crickets. There were like three gals that laughed.

But did you slowly win them over in a way?

Some, not all.

The answer is no.

Yeah, but I couldn't wait. I was like, Oh, I can't get up there.

It was your first open mic. I did the same thing. I was our song chairman, and so during the chapter meet, there was no reason for the song chairman to ever speak. You were like, once again, we need to hear from the song chairman.

And they would play it.

They would play it and everyone would be like, Shh, everyone be quiet, they would play the song. Chairman's report and I would just I'd make fun of people in the house.

I don't think I became a hit.

Do you consider Saturday Night Live, like your quote, unquote, big break? or was there something before that that really felt like your big break?

Yeah, no question, that was definitely. I mean, there was one week when I was still before I auditioned for Saturday Night Live. There was a week here in L.A. where I got three jobs in one week. Now. They were all like one line each.

Yeah, but still, that feels huge.

But still, I landed on three different sitcoms. That almost was like, I still think of that, and I got. It was then, just after I got my after card from, you know.

You're official, you're in the union.

And so that was huge, and then, of course, yeah, the Saturday Night Live thing was bonkers.

How long had you been a struggling actor or an aspiring actor before you landed on Saturday Night Live?

Let's see. I would have graduated college in 90 and I got on the show in. I was hired the summer of 95.

So about five years, yeah, knocking around, yeah, just got your after card.

Just got, yeah.

Yeah, that's pretty cool.

Yeah, doing whatever like we all were, yeah, just kind of like finding any sort of like variety show in L.A.

Did you have any odd jobs while you were a struggling actor?

I answered phones, Did you really? I answered phones at a real estate auction company.

What is that?

And then I answered phones at a art auction company, which my friend now wife, Vivica, got me the job. So I was our appraisal coordinator at Butterfield, and Butterfield you appraised art. No, I typed up the appraisal, you typed it up.

Coordinator Coordinator.

I coordinated, right.

The appraisal.

Yes, let's, yeah, no. I got hired at SNL and still worked at the auction company for another month.

Oh, uh-huh.

Because they didn't, they weren't going to pay you until the first week of the show, and I had bills to pay, but there were other coworkers. I'd be in my cubicle and I'm like, Hey, didn't you get on Saturday Night live? I'm like, Yep, I sure did.

I got a coordinator for this appraisal.

I got to get through this stack of appraisals before I leave.

We got a fan question from Natalie D.

Okay.

All right, Natalie, wanted to know How did you keep a straight face without laughing? Especially in the scene with Ed Helms, where you make him eat soap and Jess Renee asked if you ever break in scenes.

Well, that was going to be my answer to Natalie. I have a superpower of, I'm really good at not breaking.

This is what we remember about you, Okay, this is what we remember about you. And also my daughter loves bloopers, so we end up finding bloopers and we watch these bloopers of Talladega nights, right?

No, I never. It would only happen like twice a year.

Yeah.

Like Saturday Night Live or something. And a lot of times, though, there are times when I can tell I'm breaking, but no one else can tell.

Right, right.

So I hide it really well.

I could tell not that you were breaking, but that you were genuinely surprised when Ed put the soap in his mouth because that wasn't scripted and it was real soap. And I think you just improvised for him to try the soap. And then when he did, you can see your face, you were like, Hey.

It felt like you were doing just like a prank on him, like, do this thing, like there were all these scripted things, absurd things you were going to ask him to do. And you're like, how about eat the soap? It felt like a personal challenge and Ed took you up on it.

That's so funny.

One question before we take a break, do you remember the stunt gone wrong in the warehouse? We were talking about when stunts can go wrong? We got to talk to Greg about it, We got to talk to Randy Cordray, who was our production manager at the time.

No, I don't remember it. You're thinking of something else? Oh no, I just thought you meant the-.

Like, story-wise.

The story-wise.

You don't remember when we actually almost like-.

No.

Gave you a real concussion.

They had the pulley and they-.

Did it go-?

You carried this around for years.

It haunted us will.

Because I remembered when I revisited the episode, going, Oh, that's right. We do the thing. I go for the basketball dunk and it falls on me, but it's all off camera. But no, I don't remember, Oh, did something go awry?

What happened, Greg said, is they designed this pulley thing, and Greg said, just as he looked at it, he thought the physics were off on it. And they put you in it, and the first take they were as you jumped. These guys were going to pull this thing like a one, two, three, and then you were going to go up a little bit.

And I guess you got, like, a big cut on your knee.

No.

Yes, and we were all just like, mortified, we were mortified.

I don't have a memory of this.

You probably blocked it out because of the trauma.

And then they were like, you don't have to do it again, don't even worry about it, and you're like, No, no, no, I got one more, let's do one more, and then they got that one.

The only thing I do remember about that sequence is, editorially, I said, the funniest, strongest, kind of darkest thing is that D'Angelo's dead.

I do remember you pitching that.

And I was like, that's the funniest thing, that's like the funniest way.

That we kill you.

I was like, Oh, this is going in.

Yeah.

Where I'm walking through the office with my head bandaged.

Oh, no, I know I laughed through all your takes, you see me laughing. Fans just pointed it out, They're like, Angela, you're not even.

I did see you on that one, you know why?

Because, okay, here's the thing. First of all, whatever, you're the funniest person on the planet, there's that. But no, no, no.

I can't.

But that was the only thing I do really remember, so that's crazy. I don't remember cutting my leg open, but I do remember going, Oh, I wish they would have killed me off. That'd be so funny, yeah.

There was in the shooting draft, there was.

I guess it was too dark for the guys.

Because we have the shooting draft. There was a scene where the ambulance is taking you away, right? And Daryl says to Andy, Is he going to be okay? and Andy goes, I don't.

That's what I'm saying.

That's so funny, it's so funny.

That would have been so good.

They said, No, how did I not remember getting slammed into the backboard?

I don't know.

Wow.

They are going to be so relieved. I'm an afternoon guys will has no memory.

They're going to be like, What's his problem? We asked Greg about it.

Did he not?

We asked Greg about it, and the first thing he said was, Oh, I still think about that constantly.

Really, yeah, oh, please tell him. Until this moment, and even now, I'm not picturing it happening.

Wow.

Oh, I'm texting Greg. Yeah, Okay, let's take a break, and when we come back, we have a regular guy quiz for you.

Yeah, we just ask you questions that a regular guy would answer, okay.

We'll see if you're a regular guy.

All right, Will, we're back from our break. We're going to give you the regular guy questions. These are real like hard-hitting stuff. Yeah, I know if you're ready, this is the part where.

Yeah, I can feel it.

Okay, question number one.

Everyone's really crowded around the windows of the studio.

We've got a few succulents looking in.

What do you eat for breakfast?

I usually eat, I love this Ezekiel's brand cereal.

Is it like a muesli sort of thing?

It's kind of like a more of, like a grape nuts-y thing, okay?

Is that every morning? are you the same breakfast every day?

Some not necessarily.

Oh, you mix it up.

Okay, where's your protein in the morning?

It's in the cereal.

Okay, I'm just checking, all right.

Number two What is one of your favorite places you visited in the United States?

One of, Well, oh, really.

Yeah.

I love New York City. Duh, who doesn't?

It's a great place.

I love it, I want to retire there.

It's always surprising to me how you rediscover that city every time you visit.

That is true.

You're speaking to my soul, right?

There's just so many nooks and crannies in a new place here in Atlanta and this museum, and it blows my mind.

I love it.

But I also just went to Portland, Portland. it's a little hidden gem, maybe not so hidden now, but Portland's great. Yeah, have you been?

I love Portland, I love the Oregon coast.

Great restaurants, little coffee places, cool bike paths and walking trails, so green. A big enough of a city feel to it if you need that, but then really great neighborhoods.

In general, are you more city or more rural? do you like a hiking outdoorsy thing, or do you like city?