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1Speaker 1
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Hey, Part of my Take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube Prime. members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music on Today's Part of My Take. We have a twofer for the people great sports weekend. We have our good friend Peter Schrager on the show to break down the 2024 N.F.L. draft winners losers stories from Detroit.

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We also have our good friend Alex Caruso in studio. I know we had him on three weeks ago, but this time we have him on. Talking N.B.A. playoff basketball. He gives us some great insight into how these series are going, tells us how we're stupid. Well, he didn't say we're stupid, but we felt stupid with some of the things he told us and taught us about basketball.

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We're going to talk some N.B.A. playoffs, we're going to recap the draft we got, who's back of the week it's going to be.

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1Speaker 1
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Today is Monday, April 29th, and the city of Philadelphia is dead. Is Philadelphia a bad sports town? It's time to have the conversation. These are the questions. I know that Max was hoping we didn't do this to start, but I would say it's the biggest story.

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We're going to talk about the draft, we're going to recap the draft, we're going to talk about every NBA and NHL playoff series. But the big story was on Sunday afternoon. The New York Knicks took a commanding 3-1 lead behind a brilliant performance from Jalen Brunson. And the city of Philadelphia was completely cocked by New York Knicks fans. Who were so loud, very loud, very loud.

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They were.

2Speaker 2
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Cheering for Sixers Missed free throws? Yeah, they were cheering every time the Knicks made a shot. I guess we can talk about it a lot, but I feel like we should go to our Philly Sports guy to get his perspective on it. Hank, What did you think about the Knicks showing up in the building more than the Sixers fans did?

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Yeah, I mean, the Knicks are a passionate sports town.

1Speaker 1
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Passionate group of people. They showed up and they made their voices known. See, they put the jersey on Wilt's statue. Yeah, covered the whole thing up.

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Couldn't see it anymore. Yeah, I mean, that's usually something that you know, if it's a good sports town that comes to blows, or people fight back. Or, you know, the Knicks fans aren't even able to get in because it's a home game for Philly. But defend the statue, yeah, yeah.

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And Brunson was awesome, he.

2Speaker 2
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Was awesome, they were just diving all over the place. Josh Hart had a hilarious stat line. He had 45 minutes, he had four points, I believe, on four free throws.

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Yep, and 17 rebounds, 17.

1Speaker 1
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Rebounds all hustle from like the Knicks supporting cast, they just out-rebounded the hell out of the Sixers. That fourth quarter like this series is awesome because it does feel old school basketball vibes.

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Yeah, where it's kind of a fist fight on a basketball court, but yeah. The Knicks had 15 offensive rebounds to Sixers nine. They wanted it more there are.

2Speaker 2
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A few possessions where they were getting third, fourth looks and it felt like there was nothing that you could do. Hank, I have a follow-up question for you as a big Philly sports fan. When Embiid had that wide open look at the end of the game and he decided not to take the shot and then dribbled towards the basket. Did that give you flashbacks? Did that give you flashbacks?

1Speaker 1
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Excuse me, you said he didn't take the shot. Did he end up taking the shot in that possession?

2Speaker 2
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He drove clumsily through the hole and did not dunk it. Did he try to reverse? He did not. No, he did not take the shot, the wide open shot. Who took the shot in that possession?

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He did not take the wide open shot that he had hank. But as a Philly Sports fan, did that give you flashbacks of Ben Simmons and rim protector Trey Young? Yeah, I mean, this team needs a.

1Speaker 1
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Major shakeup There's a lot of big changes happening to the Philadelphia 76ers this offseason. What about the fact that Embiid, who has played great in this series, even though he continues stepping on? People? You know, throwing shoulders into people's faces? Not great at boxing out either. not great at boxing out.

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He has Bell's palsy guys. He scored one point in the fourth quarter. Kind of ran out of gas, yeah, and it's tough when you every year run out of gas.

2Speaker 2
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And are made of glass, and are made of glass. So what about at the very end of the game? Kyle Lowry, taking those foul shots, misses a shot intentionally, but didn't communicate to his teammates that he was going to try to miss intentionally to get a rebound. Yeah, I mean.

1Speaker 1
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I feel like that might be coaching, you know? At the end of game one, they decided not to foul when it was still, you know, reasonable, that they could have made a comeback again. These end of game situations, you think that they're things that you go over and practice. And it's just you don't even have to communicate. Because you know you've run the end of game situations. If we're down by this many, this is the time on the clock, you're right.

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You missed the free throw. This is what we're doing. That's not something a player should have to say. That's something that the coaches should have communicated. You know, throughout the whole year, the playoffs, you coach for these exact situations, that's true.

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Fair point, so for your team to not be on the same.

2Speaker 2
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Page How does that happen? Are they dead? are they done? Yeah, oh yeah.

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They could fire the.

1Speaker 1
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Coach Because he's been there for a long time, has he? Oh, wait, no, no, Nick Nurse just got, um, Tobias Harris is going to be gone.

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That's, that's the big fix, that's a good spin zone. TOBIAS HARRIS Uh, Max, did you watch the game at all? Uh, yeah, I happened to turn it on.

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Yeah, and what were your thoughts? Yeah, your nova guys. I mean, Jalen Brunson was incredible.

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Yeah, he's so good, he had 47 points on 34 shots, He's been great all series. Wait.

2Speaker 2
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Wait, why did you include the 34 shots in there? Because if Joe Allenby did that, that's the only thing that people would be talking about. But wait. But he shot the ball 34 times. Did he shoot above or below 50 from the field? I think it was barely above.

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Barely.

1Speaker 1
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Above, it was above 50, yeah. Joe Allenby is scoring 35 points a game, 45 from the field and a plus 34 when he's on the court. Jalen Brunson is scoring 33 points a game, 40 from the field, and there's a minus three when he's on the court.

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Okay, and the difference that the people are talking about Jalen Brunson and Joel Embiid is absolutely insane. Okay, but um, saying 34 shots felt like an insult. It was. It wasn't until he went 18 for 34..

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Uh, he also had 10 assists, so it's not like he was just ball hogging and being like, I'm going to shoot the whole time. And two turnovers, which is pretty incredible. Yeah, no, he had a really good game, but everyone acting like that, Jalen Brunson, is the next big thing.

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And Joel Embiid is shit, Joel Embiid is having a better series than Jalen Brunson. I would say, with the exception of the fourth quarter, he has a better. he has the fourth quarter today, correct?

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The fourth quarter today, correct. Jalen Brunson was very good. Joel Embiid ran out of gas. I do not think it was a good decision by nurse to leave him out on the court for the entire second half.

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He's not ready for that right now, and you could just obviously tell he ran out of gas. But like, I hate that, that, that it's now, oh, embiid, fucking choking again. In the playoffs when he's averaging 35 points a.

2Speaker 2
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50 points last game. I've been very impressed with Embiid throughout this playoffs, with the exception of the fourth quarter where he was completely out of gas. I am very, very I'm.

1Speaker 1
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Very down to say that. Like, by the way, that that was the first time a player has ever taken 34 shots and had a 40 in 10..

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Pretty impressive. Anytime he takes more than 34 shots, usually doesn't have a 40 in 10. Yeah, Brunson had a had a very, very good game, that's why the 10.

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He's also had bad, bad runs in this stretch, too, but everyone's taught. But he, his supporting guys picked him up. No one picked up Embiid today when he had a bad stretch. Yeah, so is it over? Yeah, it's over.

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And what's the what's the fix? Yeah, wow, I mean, you just don't have just delivered a soft you got. What about the series of the year?

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Series of the year rebounding 40 points they have, they have 40 extra second chance points in this series. I've been very impressed with the Knicks, they just rebound.

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They just are dogs we can't like, they're just they are dogs they want. it's just that they want it more. The Sixers are a better, are better basketball players, they are a better basketball team.

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Is the same go for the fans?

2Speaker 2
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Yes, fans were a joke today. Everything that Joel Embiid said is a hundred percent correct. You can't let that happen. It's very disappointing.

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It might be the crowd of the year at the closeout game for the Knicks. Yeah, this next game at the garden, that place is going to be busted, yeah.

1Speaker 1
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Honestly, it might be the crowd of the year at the closeout game if the Sixers, yeah, true, true, no, that I've, I've already worried about that. Would you like not to mark Wahlberg it? But if you were there, would it have gone down differently?

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Oh yeah, I would have beat the shit out of those guys.

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That's my guy. There were things I was, I was watching videos today. I'm like, Where's the Philly rep that you don't come into our our town without getting a punch?

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Yeah.

2Speaker 2
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Dude was flipping people off after the game just in a crowd of Sixers fans and they were just sitting there taking it. The one time you guys did show up was when there was a loose ball and I think it was Max. He hit the ground. Good hustle play.

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And you had everybody on the sideline calling timeout. Yeah, every fan stood up and they're like, timeout, timeout, you got the time.

1Speaker 1
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And the refs gave it to the fans. Yeah, impact play, but it is. This is a bad. This is a bad day for Philly. Yeah, for sure.

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Very bad, bad sports town today. Oh today, all right, good job putting in today. Because yeah, I just, and maybe it's just Knicks fans are so crazy, which they are like, it's been so long.

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That's the other thing, that's the other thing. Like this is like the first time that the Knicks, like, actually have a shot at making a run.

2Speaker 2
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And the Sixers have been so disappointing year after year after year that it's there's, obviously.

1Speaker 1
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A different playoffs, yeah, there's obviously a difference of excitement in between fan bases.

2Speaker 2
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Right now, and you can tell, I mean, you can just tell. It. Got to the point where during foul shots, I thought it seemed like every shot that the Sixers were taking was for a free chicken. Yeah, because they would miss and the crowd would go crazy, yeah.

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The the every single time.

1Speaker 1
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Bronson touched the ball, the MVP chance. That could have been the Nova Twitter, that could have been the Sixers Twitter guy, though. Yeah, is the process of failure.

2Speaker 2
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No, I mean, no, you get, you get to buy his Harris off the books, hopefully you can bring.

1Speaker 1
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In role players next year, did you guys go to Paris? did the process get you to the Eastern?

2Speaker 2
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Conference final Where is it? Joel Embiid is still there, Tyrese Maxey is still there. You.

1Speaker 1
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Still have two stars on the team. If you can build a team and not put $200 million into a guy that can't get you 10 points in a playoff game, then you have some room to work with again, I think.

2Speaker 2
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I think we're talking about the the not the process, we're talking about the results of the process when we should be focused on the process of the process. True, and the fact is, the process of the process worked. And they got a bunch of good draft picks, yeah.

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It was we're just results, guys. Now all of a sudden we're judging the process, and the process doesn't actually.

1Speaker 1
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You can't judge the process until, like Joel Embiid retires, until, yes, actually, you can never judge the process. Joel Embiid is still a top player in this game. Like when he has his gas, yeah.

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Yeah, he ran out of gas, he runs out of gas every year. But like, that was the problem. Because as soon as in the first half, as soon as we were up 10, he comes off the court three minutes.

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Go by the Knicks, tie it up like you have to be able to weather the storm. Without your best player being on the court, like Joel Embiid when he's on the court, like the Sixers are the better team when he's on the court, yeah.

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You need a guard that can get his own shot, score a bunch of points. That's not what I said. Make shots, make threes, 12 for 17 in a game, be reliable in the playoffs.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, you need one of those. Uh, okay.

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So, sixers are dead, that's official.

2Speaker 2
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Max is is burying them. Uh, have we already started the conversation, Max? About Josh? Spending too much time on the commanders, not enough time on the Sixers?

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I don't care about, I don't care about your stupid football team. Okay, all right, that's fair. I've had, I've had that conversation.

1Speaker 1
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Uh, hank, cocky, hank. Nope, is he back? No, he even said after the Celtics beat the beat down the heat, Uh, two more games exactly like that and move on.

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Is it? It's a magic? Johnson tweet? He's, he's we, we've our s. Our boy has been lobotomized, he doesn't have any pat.

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He's just he's like a robot. Watching these games now and move on and move on. I do more games exactly like that and move on. Just forget about the heat, get, get it over with, are you not going to be?

2Speaker 2
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Excited about any games they play until the finals? I'm excited about every game, but just.

1Speaker 1
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The next game that was, that was good, though, to your your back. That's why we were upset that Cocky Hank was retired. Because that was, I think I said it when we were talking about it on Thursday. Like, you're going to 20 piece the heat on Saturday, but that was, that was just on Saturday. We're focused on Monday, we've got to do it again.

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Monday, do it again Wednesday or Thursday and just move on. Don't 20 piece, 20 piece every time, 20 piece, if you were to take.

2Speaker 2
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If you were to rank every player in the series, how far down would you have to go to get to the?

1Speaker 1
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First heat player Bam's pretty good. Yeah, probably four or five, yeah.

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Bam's pretty.

2Speaker 2
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Just put KP above them. Oh, you would? Okay, yeah, what about coaching?

1Speaker 1
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No coaching is probably a toss up. Yeah, probably a toss up. We're Missoula guys now, so we got to say that if they were playing like on the court, Missoula all day.

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That's a good point, that's a really good point, he's been there, that's a good point. If they were inside of a batting cage and one of them had to get out with their life, I'm taking Missoula all day.

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Yep, Alpha male challenge okay. Other games the Lakers have beaten the Nuggets in a game we.

2Speaker 2
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Should clarify four quarters, four quarters of the game, the whole game, and Hank's wish might.

1Speaker 1
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Be coming true because Jamal Murray is questionable for Monday night's game. All his wishing that the Nuggets get injured. If you're a Nuggets fan, blame Hank. I wish, for the record, the opposite.

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Right? But whenever someone says, I don't root for injuries, they're rooting for injuries. I mean, you said that a million times on the show, and every time I've been rooting for injuries.

2Speaker 2
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That's fucked up. So there we go. Yeah, in this game, I don't know about you, but it definitely felt like this game was not over until the last like minute and a half of the game. Yeah.

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Even though it was never really that close, like they got to, what? Eight points at one point, Yeah, I think.

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But it was just like the clock ticking and the Lakers are still up somewhere in the 10 to 17 point range. And the announcers just kept saying, like, not over. They still got to weather the big comeback that's coming. So you felt like the big comeback was going to happen until it didn't, until the game was totally over.

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And LeBron James?

1Speaker 1
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Is fucking awesome again. Yeah, and Anthony Davis. I love that Anthony Davis is playing with. Hey, we're not going to win this series, but you motherfuckers can't blame me. Energy every single night.

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Cause he had, he had 25 and 23 23 rebounds. Like he's making sure that whatever blame pie goes around, it's not on ad. So one thing that they they touched on the announcers.

2Speaker 2
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Brought this up and I when I looked it up because it is very impressive. Um, there are now, I believe, 1, 2, 3 4, 5 6 players to play 21 seasons in the N.BA. It's Vince, Kevin, Garnett, Dirk, Robert, Parish, Kevin, Will, LeBron. They've each played 21 seasons. LeBron and his 21st season has more points than all the other guys combined in their 21st season.

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Whoa, pretty crazy. That is like, we don't. We don't think about what LeBron's doing right now in proper context, I don't think, because we've just seen LeBron be awesome for his entire career. But the fact that he's 39 and doing this and him and AD are, are putting the Lakers on their backs. And being like, we're not, we're not going to get swept.

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And they have been competitive. If you look at the time with a lead in the series, it is crazy like winning the series. The Lakers are dominating the series, but the Nuggets have just won more games. No, I mean, the Nuggets are a problem, they're still very good.

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And I expect the Nuggets to win in the next game and close that at home. But still, even though we are going to take a lot of pleasure in LeBron getting bounced from the first round of the playoffs as we should, I think we've earned that, right. Yeah, as LeBron haters. Uh, it is pretty fucking impressive, what?

1Speaker 1
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He's doing, I said it, uh, last week when I think it was game one or two. When he had that Jamal Murray block. And it looked exactly like the splitter block 10 years ago and it put everything into perspective. We were like, Holy fuck, like, Yeah, he's not the same LeBron.

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That was the peak, LeBron, who was the best player in the world. But even still, he's playing 39, 40, 42 minutes a night and putting up insane numbers and he is old. Oh, this is breaking news for me, coming across my timeline, breaking what breaking moves.

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Okay, oj's dead.

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Joel Embiid is the fourth player in the last 25 postseasons with multiple games in the same series. Shooting O and five or worse in the fourth quarter. Oh, run out of gas, he has Bell's palsy, he's a hybrid, he's a hybrid.

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We're on to the next game. What are we doing here? That's not, that's not breaking news to him, to him, he said. Plug him back in.

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Yeah, that's tough, he's the anti LeBron. Yeah, well, we can.

2Speaker 2
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Get back to LeBron Hate. We sucked his dick for long enough. I think he only won because they.

1Speaker 1
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Sold their shoes for the pregame warmup. Yeah, and also, uh, his temper tantrum at Darvingham was so funny, he was looking, he looked like a five-year-old. Not getting their candy bar.

2Speaker 2
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Yeah, he just stood there for what it felt like 10 seconds, screaming at him, stomped well, stomping at him. He was stomping at him, even when the ball was going the other way.

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He was just continuing to yell at his coach, that was great for that. I wish they had lost that game where the one where he he flipped out on his own coach, yeah, regrettably they won that one.

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So we won't get to remember that as well. We should, um, but you know what, I was kind of happy to the.

1Speaker 1
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Lakers get one. Yeah, because they needed. I mean, it had gotten so ridiculous, the way they were losing and the way the Nuggets continued to snatch their soul. Uh, to go out and fighting and win one, yeah, it was big.

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The gentlemen sweep, maybe, yeah, uh, who's not going out and fighting is the pelicans? They're done, yup.

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Cooked the Thunder are, uh, for real, uh. They've been dominating, they've been. The first game was close, but since then they've emasculated the Pelicans and now we have, uh, Charles Barkley.

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With all time rants, he said that the pelicans are so bad they shouldn't go to Cancun, they should go to Galvin's Galveston. Uh, and then he followed it up the next day.

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Uh, Shaq did a really good job of Just. I love Charles Barkley so much. I'm just getting him to double down. Cause they found he found out that, uh, Beyonce's, yep, so he's like, I don't want the Bay hive after me.

00:20:25.28 – 00:20:37.96

And so he apologized. And then, uh, I think Shaq said, like, are you going to go to Galveston? He said. The water's so dirty. I'd rather go to San Antonio with those big old women, and then he said that, Uh, San Antonio, you know about Victoria's Secret?

00:20:38.60 – 00:20:50.42

They don't, it's a secret to them because they're too big. So he basically took one shot at Galveston, apologize, and then took another shot at Galveston and then added in San Antonio. And it was one of the funniest TV moment, I think.

2Speaker 2
00:20:51.78 – 00:20:59.36

And watch the big old women, big old women with. It shouldn't be a river, it should be a river treadmill down there. Yeah, big old women. Uh, he's right about Galveston, by the way.

00:20:59.42 – 00:21:10.24

And we're going to get into that with Caruso in a little bit. But, uh, Charles, don't let shaq, don't let the bay hive, don't let Jay-z talk you out of what's right. Stand up for yourself. Galveston is a is a weird fucking beach, yeah.

00:21:10.42 – 00:21:12.80

You don't want to go there, yeah, so um, and then also.

1Speaker 1
00:21:12.80 – 00:21:36.64

On Saturday, we had the Magics tying the series two, two. Uh, the Magic's defense is so goddamn good. I don't think I've seen this in an N.B.A. like playoff game in a long time. Where the Cavs went to start the third quarter all the way to garbage time with four minutes left, the Cleveland Cavaliers scored 18 points. Yeah, it was. It was painful.

00:21:36.86 – 00:21:38.06

It was very painful for.

2Speaker 2
00:21:38.06 – 00:21:44.04

That Cavs offense, I liked the magic. I think they're a good young team, They play just great defense. They're not going to do much this year.

00:21:44.10 – 00:21:52.58

They might, they might win this series, they're going to make it competitive. I bet on them to win the series. I hope they win the series. But I feel like next two, three years they might be making some noise.

1Speaker 1
00:21:52.92 – 00:22:12.92

This would be pretty tragic if, uh, the Cavs can't win this series, cause Dan Gilbert's never won a series without LeBron James. Yeah, that's a fact, and he's the one who said they're going to win a championship without LeBron James. And it does feel like the Cavs are at a crossroad where they, like, they keep adding people, adding players, adding draft picks.

00:22:12.94 – 00:22:28.96

And it's like they should have something to show for it. And if the Upstart magic who have? Like, it's just such a funny when you have two teams like the Magic. If they lose this series, the future's bright. Yeah, if the Cavs lose this series, it's like, what the fuck we, we, we just can't win series.

00:22:29.08 – 00:22:30.94

Cause the cavs used to be the magic where they're.

2Speaker 2
00:22:30.94 – 00:22:35.66

A fun young team and at some point, if you're a fun young team and you don't win, you just age.

1Speaker 1
00:22:35.66 – 00:22:41.86

Into being mid, yeah, yeah, so a lot of stake there. Two, two series and then Sunday.

00:22:41.92 – 00:23:15.68

So we talked about the Sixers Knicks game. If you aren't watching the N.BA playoffs, I understand some people like, Oh, fuck the N.BA, we don't want to watch the N.BA. That that Mavericks Clippers game, especially the fourth quarter, was such awesome playoff basketball when Kyrie, like the the Mavericks, were down 20 in the first half. But when Kyrie and James Harden were just going shot for shot, and James Harden was insane. And Paul George playoff p. That three-pointer he made at the end of the shot clock in the corner where he, like, you know, a step back. Incredible shot to make.

00:23:15.82 – 00:23:25.36

That was, that was what playoff basketball should be, those two teams, they they find a way. I know Kawhi was out again, which was actually good for the Clippers because he was so bad on Friday. They moved the ball, yeah.

00:23:25.36 – 00:23:39.58

And he, he just looks injured. But that game was so much fun to watch. And like Kyrie when he, when Kyrie gets going and he just starts making, just like, insane shot after insane shot, it's so much fun to watch. There was one layup you had today that I think it.

2Speaker 2
00:23:39.58 – 00:23:47.42

Was like a triple pump fake. Yeah, he was in the air, he clutched it like three times and made the layup and he wasn't surprised that he made it no.

00:23:47.56 – 00:24:09.74

And I wasn't. I was actually not shocked at all that went in because I've seen Kyrie do that within eight feet of the basket. Kyrie is a fucking magician and always has been. But it was just it was great basketball to watch. You're right, it was, it was a lot of fun down the stretch and I kept. I kept thinking like this would be an all-time collapse by the Clippers, but then the Clippers just kept playing great basketball and offense and holding them off.

00:24:09.82 – 00:24:11.64

And it ended up just being a great game on both sides.

1Speaker 1
00:24:11.72 – 00:24:16.28

Yeah, it was so much fun, it was so much fun. And then the other, uh, Palmer in the front row, yeah.

00:24:16.48 – 00:24:26.12

Loving it, living it up. Cuban who? He doesn't own the team, but he's still gets all the camera time. Is he involved with the team? I think he still is, but he can be fired at any moment.

00:24:26.16 – 00:24:35.44

I still don't really understand that entire. He gave up his ownership, yeah, so he's like owner was, but they kept them employed. Emeritus, Yeah.

00:24:35.80 – 00:24:39.24

I think they were just like, you can just keep your seats and tell people that you own the team.

2Speaker 2
00:24:39.64 – 00:24:42.56

Yeah, you've been around for like, they probably just kept in there to yell at the refs.

1Speaker 1
00:24:42.62 – 00:24:50.82

Yeah, yeah, probably do your work. Cubes, um, and then the Pacers and Bucks, the Bucks are going outside and I know box fans.

00:24:50.90 – 00:24:56.92

Yeah, they're very injured. Dame was out this game, Bobby Porter's got ejected, Chris Middleton's hurt.

00:24:57.06 – 00:25:09.10

Giannis has not played yet. I understand if you're a Bucs fan, you're like, This is bullshit. Our injuries, injuries happen and injuries bounce your way, and sometimes they don't.

00:25:09.16 – 00:25:20.84

Cause I just want to remind everyone that when Kevin Durant almost single-handedly beat the box their championship season, James Harden and Kyrie Irving were hurt. So they happen, they happen in sports. Jason, what was that game?

00:25:20.84 – 00:25:33.54

Seven, I know you guys lost by a billion, but Jason Tatum rolled on the ankle on the first play of Game seven. It sucks, I understand being very bummed out about it, but you can't like they. Just sometimes they go your.

2Speaker 2
00:25:33.54 – 00:25:37.04

Way, sometimes they don't. Yeah, they're really not going their way this time, but they really.

1Speaker 1
00:25:37.04 – 00:25:50.08

Didn't go. They really went their way when they won a title and I never apologized for a title. I'm not taking away the Bucs title. But you also can't. Then you. You can't just ignore the injuries that happen when you win a title and then be like the Pacers stink.

00:25:50.70 – 00:25:51.76

They're just getting lucky.

2Speaker 2
00:25:51.76 – 00:26:07.02

Cause we're injured. It also makes it very hard for the Bucs to figure out what they have to do this off season. The fact that their main guys aren't showing up at a hundred percent in the playoffs. How do you evaluate that going into next year? Like, do you? Are you honest with yourself when you say like, the team wasn't really clicking that well to begin with?

00:26:07.28 – 00:26:11.48

Yeah, I don't know. Or do you say, like, let's talk, we'll fix it? Yeah, let the yeah.

00:26:11.48 – 00:26:12.32

Let the doc take a look.

1Speaker 1
00:26:12.32 – 00:26:21.50

At it, that Tyrese Halbert and a game winner on Friday, which that was the weirdest? crazy? Started at four 30 in central time. It was very bizarre to have a game.

00:26:21.58 – 00:26:32.20

Like, I was watching overtime and it was still very light out. But yeah, Tyrese Halbert and incredible finish, incredible game. Yeah, Chris Middleton. Just I thought he was going to hit three in a row.

00:26:32.50 – 00:26:44.68

He had two insane three pointers to keep the game extended. But yeah, the Pacers are fun, they're like, they're fun young team, and, uh, I like watching them run up and down the court.

2Speaker 2
00:26:45.00 – 00:26:50.06

Yeah, yeah, I mean, that game was one of the best ones in the playoff so far. Double overtime, incredible.

00:26:50.32 – 00:26:55.50

But it was weird. Hank and I walked in the studio and we're like, this game's not live, is it? Yeah, cause it was in the first quarter.

00:26:55.58 – 00:26:57.14

We're like, No, there's no chance this game's on.

1Speaker 1
00:26:57.14 – 00:27:00.66

Right now, it's like a replay. Yeah, it was very bizarre, triple header, I guess.

00:27:00.88 – 00:27:10.08

Um, all right, so we'll talk about the Sun's Wolves. When it finishes. There's eight minutes left in the game. The Wolves are trying to sweep the Suns. Hank. You're up three, one on the leafs.

00:27:10.12 – 00:27:20.14

Poor leafs swimming three and Oh, and the leafs are melting down. We're going to have Biz or Whitney on Uh, on Friday to talk some hockey. They're melting down.

00:27:20.30 – 00:27:32.22

Probably be all Bruins fans game game five or I guess Game six if it goes back to Toronto, but yeah, they're there, they're the Philly of the NHL stack team. Can't get out of the first round process.

2Speaker 2
00:27:33.76 – 00:27:39.14

Just it's a bummer, it's sad, it's sad for a historic franchise like the Leafs.

1Speaker 1
00:27:39.24 – 00:27:44.46

Uh, pft, your team now technically is eliminated. Technically we are, um.

2Speaker 2
00:27:44.46 – 00:27:50.46

Today, they actually didn't follow one of my keys to the game. Okay, so this game shouldn't count. OVI didn't get a shot again.

00:27:51.24 – 00:28:01.30

It's, uh, okay, so I can spend on this a couple of ways. Number one, I got one for you as well, okay, number one. The Capitol should get credit for the Rangers winning this series and for the Rangers turning into the juggernaut.

00:28:01.30 – 00:28:22.90

They are because the Rangers turned around their entire franchise a couple of years ago. When Tom Wilson, in a horrifying act of violence, threw Panera into the ground. Or was it? No, it's a Benajad? threw him to the ground? One of the two anyways, uh, they accused him basically of attempted murder. They wrote a letter, an open letter, uh, begging the league to suspend Tom Wilson or have him arrested.

00:28:23.14 – 00:28:49.74

And then they fired their entire front office after that because they realized that they were a soft hockey team. Since that moment, the Rangers have turned it around. They've built themselves up into being a tougher hockey team, more talented hockey team, a more cohesive hockey team. All directly from the fact that Tom Wilson absolutely bodied you in your own house one time. So, in a way, the Caps kind of couldn't take credit for winning the series, for building the Rangers into the juggernaut that they are right now. They were a much better team than the Caps.

00:28:50.40 – 00:29:04.28

OVI looked awful this entire playoff series, which is weird because he looked good at the end of the regular season, but he, he did not look like the OVI. That I've grown to know and love. And watch over the last how many years came in the league in, like 2004?

00:29:04.98 – 00:29:19.12

Um, he looked, he looked very different. So now I'm even thinking like, next year, what is it going to be, is it going to be OVI? Just like running out there for for power plays, hoping to get a shot from his office, where he can still snipe it in. I don't know.

00:29:19.24 – 00:29:42.34

If this is what Alexander Ovechkin is, he might not get the goals record. Because, like this playoff series, going multiple games without a single shot from one of the greatest goal scorers of all time, if not the greatest goal scorer of all time, was just bizarre to watch and it was sad. And I was telling Big Cat before we taped. I just really wanted at least one more day where I could be, like, I have appointment, television. Yeah, you got something you got to do.

00:29:42.40 – 00:30:11.16

It's like tonight the Caps are in a playoff game, can't wait to watch, but they're in a weird spot where they've. They've been sellers at the trade deadline the past two seasons, without really an opportunity of doing anything big in the playoffs. They got into the playoffs this year, even though we're in the middle of a rebuild, but it still does feel like the Caps. Next season is just going to be dedicated to OVI, getting the all-time scoring record. And when he's not playing that well, then it's like, Well, what are we doing as a hockey team? So I obviously OVI's going to be back next year.

00:30:11.20 – 00:30:26.96

I hope that he's not, I hope that it's not something that's wrong with him, I hope that just maybe. It was a long season that ended up getting the best of him, but he looked fucking awful, awful this entire series and we got our asses kicked. It got to a point where I was hoping that you could decline penalties in hockey, yeah.

00:30:26.98 – 00:30:40.74

You said that out loud, Yeah, I can't decline penalties in hockey, but they got, I think in three out of four games. They got a shorthanded goal and at least in another game, uh, they had another goal that, uh, that should have been a shorthanded goal.

00:30:40.74 – 00:30:53.24

That was, uh, just barely they missed. I forget what it was, maybe off the pipe or something, uh. But the power play sucked, everything sucked. A couple of young guys stepped up a little bit. All in all, um, the haters were right about the about the the capitals.

1Speaker 1
00:30:53.34 – 00:31:04.82

So I got a spin zone for you. Okay, I have a rule of hard and fast rule when it comes to the playoffs. Uh, if you get eliminated within a single week, it never really happened.

00:31:05.16 – 00:31:14.76

That's the beauty of it, you like. That was so fast, it was seven days in and out. No one's going to remember. You're in the playoffs, which is probably for the better.

00:31:15.00 – 00:31:23.28

And that's like, it doesn't. You didn't even people like, I'd be a trivia question who was a seed in the 2024? But no.

2Speaker 2
00:31:23.28 – 00:31:26.88

One will know, no one knows. Yeah, it happened so fast, I didn't even get a chance to get excited.

1Speaker 1
00:31:26.88 – 00:31:35.54

By it, by anything in this series, right? It was over before you. You were the uh, oh, you're one. oh in the first game, right? were we? No, I don't think.

00:31:35.54 – 00:31:36.36

No, I think we're down.

2Speaker 2
00:31:36.42 – 00:31:42.22

I think it was zero, zero down, like the whole time, it was zero, zero after one period. Yeah, we're tied.

00:31:42.48 – 00:31:48.02

We're tied in the first game. Yeah, we'll always have that. It was, uh, yeah, no, it was.

1Speaker 1
00:31:48.02 – 00:32:00.22

Three nothing in the first game before the Capital scored their first goal. So they were literally just like, I said, it was just over. Is that true? I thought that we had one goal. No, uh, I'm looking at right now.

00:32:00.36 – 00:32:06.42

Uh, it was three, nothing, it was three to one that, uh, it was three to one. Oh, that's because you scored a goal.

2Speaker 2
00:32:06.50 – 00:32:10.10

But that's because there are three goals, basically all happened at the same time, so I eliminated.

1Speaker 1
00:32:10.10 – 00:32:13.66

Those three minutes from the game, they happened very quickly. You were the Abe Simpson, just.

2Speaker 2
00:32:13.66 – 00:32:19.34

Walking in and walking out of the playoff, yeah, today was over after about, I think, 57 seconds, they scored their first goal, yeah.

00:32:19.34 – 00:32:27.04

The game wasn't even on yet, it wasn't, we didn't get on the TV yet, we were already down. So I feel like you, you never win those games if you're losing by the time you get it on, but it just did.

00:32:27.10 – 00:32:29.96

This didn't even happen, didn't happen, you're good, didn't happen, you're good.

00:32:30.04 – 00:32:36.94

I apologize to Red Wings fans, I apologize to hockey fans. You were right, you were right. The caps probably shouldn't have been in the.

1Speaker 1
00:32:36.94 – 00:32:47.96

Playoffs this year, yeah, but we will get um, Biz and uh, and and or Whitney on this week to talk some more playoffs. I have. We have to decide our period of the week. I've got a new.

2Speaker 2
00:32:48.40 – 00:32:53.36

I do, too. Is it the third period of the Preds? Yes, yeah, that was crazy.

00:32:53.66 – 00:32:59.66

Yeah, it was wild. The Preds had an open netter to to win the game, missed it, bounced it off the pipe inches.

00:32:59.74 – 00:33:07.34

Yeah, and uh. Then two goals with, uh, with the goalie pulled for the Canucks, goes into overtime Canucks.

1Speaker 1
00:33:07.34 – 00:33:16.80

Win one with like three minutes left, and then they scored one with eight seconds left. Yeah, it was an awesome end to that period, yeah, so that I think we can just say that's period of week.

00:33:17.06 – 00:33:21.00

That's my, that's my vote. Yeah, anyone else got any other nominees, any other periods?

2Speaker 2
00:33:21.00 – 00:33:26.32

You want to talk about any other periods? Hank, you're nobjen? Yeah, no, I mean the fourth, and.

1Speaker 1
00:33:26.32 – 00:33:32.12

Quarters don't count, right? Uh, well, the overtime you're talking about, are we talking about basketball? He's trying to bring basketball? No, no.

00:33:32.12 – 00:33:38.96

It's periods of the week. well, like Alex Bennett's not in this anymore. no other periods of the week for me. Yeah, you could say.

2Speaker 2
00:33:39.20 – 00:33:43.80

You could call a quarter of period, it is a period of time. I love the end of that, Clippers.

1Speaker 1
00:33:43.80 – 00:33:51.36

Oh, so good, it was so good. Did that be period of the week? No, I think we're going to stick with periods that could be quarter of the week.

00:33:51.54 – 00:33:59.36

Okay, that could be quarter of the week, if you want that. Would you like to nominate? That? It doesn't sound as cool as period of the week. Period of the week is awesome.

00:33:59.92 – 00:34:06.96

Maybe Max is texting when he was drunk last night. Hank period, pussy, pussy, you're being a pussy about the Celtics.

00:34:07.18 – 00:34:11.98

Yeah, that was actually. That might be period of the week, it might be period in between pussy of the week.

2Speaker 2
00:34:12.50 – 00:34:18.14

Hank period, pussy period, Max, were you actually upset at Hank for how he was acting?

1Speaker 1
00:34:18.52 – 00:34:24.84

Yeah, yeah, I was mad. I was a little mad, too. Max gets drunk and he wants to fight me. That's pretty much it.

00:34:25.20 – 00:34:41.00

You have a good team and one little heat loss and you took your ball at home. I got focused. You were literally talking about matching up against the Nuggets and you would lose one game. Yeah, I got ahead of myself and now I'm back on the right track, we are back on the right track.

00:34:41.10 – 00:34:48.52

We are, we got ahead of ourselves. Yeah, all right, other any other hockey to talk about?

00:34:48.64 – 00:35:09.04

I know the Oilers in the first round has been, I don't want to say mid, but like, it doesn't feel. There's been a couple of good series, I think The Knights Stars series has got, it still has a way to get like that might go seven but and both teams have won, or all the road teams have won. Uh, but like, got a lot of three ones out there, yeah.

00:35:09.16 – 00:35:20.92

Got a lot of three ones and that's usually I want to. I want a couple of game sevens, I feel like usually the the NHL playoffs, we get at least one or two game sevens in the first round. I feel like the bruins bruins are on a heater right now, yeah.

00:35:21.44 – 00:35:32.66

Yeah, we have, yeah, we have a sweep and all games, all three ones except the two, one that is the Stars Knights, that's crazy. Okay, uh, should we talk some N.FL draft?

00:35:33.24 – 00:35:47.30

We should talk some NFL draft recap The NFL draft. Uh, basically Friday and Saturday. I don't know how you guys consume the weekend of the NFL draft. I essentially just wait for the Bears pick and then I'm like, great pick.

00:35:47.34 – 00:35:55.04

And then everything else, like, if a QB Spencer Rattler went, Uh, everyone said that he sucks as a high schooler. Yeah, bad demeanor.

2Speaker 2
00:35:55.32 – 00:36:04.68

Yeah, yeah, that's a good way to do it. I w. I like to watch the draft on Friday, like, kind of like I do on Thursday, where I pay close attention. For at least the first few picks, yeah.

00:36:04.76 – 00:36:12.72

And then I quickly realized, Oh yeah, this isn't nearly as entertaining as as the Thursday is. Oh yeah. Second round, I get locked in on the guys that my team picks in the second round.

1Speaker 1
00:36:12.72 – 00:36:26.40

Yeah, I didn't have a second round picture, so I have a couple things I'll throw out there that we can, we can talk about. Um, J.J. McCarthy's, uh, initial picture showing up to the Vikings facility was very funny. Someone aptly said that it had big time.

00:36:26.40 – 00:36:35.62

Mom, I threw up energy. Uh, he has like a wrinkled suit. Also, J.J. McCarthy has been nominated by Colin Coward is the number one.

2Speaker 2
00:36:35.62 – 00:36:40.60

Backwards hat energy Quarterback In this draft class, backwards had energy. Yes, that's different.

1Speaker 1
00:36:40.60 – 00:36:44.46

From actually wearing a backwards hat, that's gotta just be the hair, he said. He said, It's.

2Speaker 2
00:36:44.46 – 00:36:56.34

Hair cocky Michigan guy backwards had errors. Okay, all right, but it's it's awesome that Coward's throwing backwards had energy onto a guy not wearing a backwards hat. Where it's like, you, I don't like that, you would be a backwards.

00:36:56.50 – 00:36:58.40

He's trying to call his shot if you wore a.

1Speaker 1
00:36:58.40 – 00:37:15.34

Backwards hat, I would hate you, yeah, um, we had the funniest trade, uh, be realized in this year's NFL. When the New England Patriots selected Joe Milton with the draft pick. They got four Mac Jones, so that was perfect.

00:37:15.46 – 00:37:23.26

They basically did pimp my ride with an exhibit and they're like, Hey, you liked your quarterback? We put a cannon on him, but he can only throw cannons.

2Speaker 2
00:37:23.46 – 00:37:27.54

Yeah, you want a deep ball guy and hank. I would. I would start looking right now at Joe.

1Speaker 1
00:37:27.54 – 00:37:33.30

MILTON I've looked at arms. Hey, controversy. I think that might be more excited about Joe.

2Speaker 2
00:37:33.30 – 00:37:42.98

Milton, It's gotta be a drake, it's gotta be an open competition, cause it. If you watch Joe Milton thrown off passes, you will. The highlights for Joe Milton are higher than anybody else's.

1Speaker 1
00:37:42.98 – 00:37:48.30

Ball, it's real light in his hand. You at least you got hail Mary guy. Yeah, I mean, he.

00:37:48.30 – 00:37:50.82

He's exciting, he's an exciting player. Kind of redundant, would you call?

2Speaker 2
00:37:50.86 – 00:37:55.48

We were set on the roster. Yeah, really, that's he W. He was the designated sneak and hail Mary guy.

1Speaker 1
00:37:55.54 – 00:38:02.20

Yeah, but Joe Milton will be both of those. Yeah, for sure. Imagine if we got Harrison Jr. and then we had Joe Milton.

00:38:02.96 – 00:38:15.72

Yeah, yeah. He would throw the ball off his helmet whenever he was, you know, within 20 yards of the line of scrimmage. It is great, though, that it was Mac Jones, the Mac Jones pick, the six rounder. They traded Mac Jones and got back.

00:38:16.12 – 00:38:28.02

They then upgraded to Joe Milton Cannon Arm. I think it's worth taking a flyer on. Joe. Yeah, absolutely. Uh, the the the Bears got, uh, Sam Hartman, I think no, I think the commander's my manager's got Sam.

00:38:28.12 – 00:38:34.78

Yeah, we got someone else, some other, I don't even know. Yeah, I got a punter, the.

2Speaker 2
00:38:34.84 – 00:38:38.94

Yeah, you got the Iowa punter, which is awesome, he's very experienced, he's got a lot of a lot.

1Speaker 1
00:38:38.94 – 00:38:44.68

Of mileage on that leg, though. Punting at Iowa. Listen, he I I like, uh, saying, Hey, best player.

2Speaker 2
00:38:44.68 – 00:38:49.98

Available. If it's a punter, it's a punter. Yeah, yeah, that's what the commanders did throughout the entire draft.

00:38:50.02 – 00:38:57.90

They just went best player available and we got Ben Senate, the Uh, the Low Man Trophy winner from Kansas State. I like that, he's awesome, I'm, he's, he's mini kittle.

00:38:58.02 – 00:39:07.88

We're not doing baby Gronk anymore, he's baby kittle and he's going to be good. And then I also like, I like, I like Newton, the guy from Illinois. Yeah, dude's a problem.

00:39:07.88 – 00:39:17.08

Yeah, in the second round you got him, in the second round we got him. Also. There was a moment, uh, Max and I were watching the draft together and the commanders traded our pick to the Philadelphia Eagles.

00:39:17.36 – 00:39:35.38

It was in the second round. Max starts pounding his chest, being like, I want Cooper, I want. I thought. I thought it was asking to sign Riley Cooper again. It was really weird how how angry he was getting. And then they ended up drafting Cooper to Jean and, uh, and Max. You thought that they would have brought the Pope into town?

00:39:35.66 – 00:39:45.66

Max was just loving it and it was honestly a little bit uncomfortable. How hard you were celebrating that pick. I think everybody in the bar was like, why does this guy like this white defensive back so much?

1Speaker 1
00:39:45.80 – 00:39:59.80

Max That's not what happened. Even slightly true. Okay, so give us the slight. Uh. PfT was very excited because his team was, uh, and he wanted to get Cooper to Jean.

2Speaker 2
00:39:59.80 – 00:40:09.00

And then the Eagles traded. And then he just started immediately going like, Max, why do you like this pick so much? Why do you like this pick so much? Oh, you really want this guy, you really want this guy.

00:40:09.06 – 00:40:22.46

Hmm, that's interesting. When it was really, he was really upset that he didn't get him, so he was just using all of that against him. It was an all-time moment in deflection. When I just, I just put I I I, I pegged Max as a racist.

00:40:22.66 – 00:40:33.22

I was like, Look how much this racist wants this white quarterback? kind of pathetic, really pathetic. how much you want this guy? Uh, but yeah, so I think the Eagles got fleeced in that trade.

1Speaker 1
00:40:33.22 – 00:40:42.46

Regardless, yeah, uh, but I was, you did get Sam Hartman. I was thinking of Austin Reed from western Kentucky. The Bears got as an undrafted free agent. I love the undrafted free agents.

00:40:42.52 – 00:40:47.46

Yeah, sign everyone what I hate to poo-poo Pft, but.

2Speaker 2
00:40:49.34 – 00:40:56.28

How did a tight end win the Low Man Trophy? Uh, he was a hybrid, he was a fullback tight end. Also, I don't vote on it, actually, I do vote on it.

00:40:56.30 – 00:41:03.00

That's a lie, but the people that nominate the the fullbacks, they they take care of that, and he did play fullback. Yeah, he's both.

00:41:03.06 – 00:41:03.20

He's.

1Speaker 1
00:41:03.20 – 00:41:20.86

A mix between Kittle and Ushak, by the way. PFT. Did you see your, uh, new quarterback Jaden Daniels, Uh? When he was seven years old? Wrote? On a piece of paper I will play in the NFL, I saw that. How many pieces of paper have that for people who did not play in one of the four?

2Speaker 2
00:41:20.86 – 00:41:24.94

Major sports Oh, I was going to be, I definitely wrote it, I was going to be the first baseball.

1Speaker 1
00:41:24.94 – 00:41:33.60

Player astronaut more pieces of paper with. I will play in Fill in the blank league and never realizing that.

00:41:35.94 – 00:41:48.18

Then street, then uh, then uh. Traffic lights in Manhattan. Oh for sure, yeah, way more, way more than toilets in the millions every year, every year you get in toilets in the country.

00:41:48.18 – 00:41:54.00

Way more think about Russell Wilson's house, way more. He's got like 75 toilets, but no, I get 75 new toilets the next year.

00:41:54.00 – 00:42:00.82

Think about all the toilets in stadiums next year. Do you think it's more? it's more toilet vanity? it's infinity number? there's more toilets, yeah.

00:42:01.26 – 00:42:04.14

Oh, you think there's more toilets? I think, so, yeah, yeah, Hank doesn't.

00:42:04.36 – 00:42:10.76

It's in the billions, you think, it's in the billions. Pieces of paper. Yeah, wow, your first job out of college, if you?

2Speaker 2
00:42:10.76 – 00:42:21.04

Become an accountant or a salesperson. You should have to say, like, you know, every day. When I was a kid, I grew up looking at the poster on my wallet. I had that said, one day I will play in the NFL, yeah.

00:42:21.10 – 00:42:24.44

And today I'm an accountant because I wasn't good enough at football.

1Speaker 1
00:42:24.84 – 00:42:31.16

But what if it was a forensic accountant? Do you think there's any ever been a kid who's written down? I want it someday, I want to be a forensic accountant.

00:42:31.54 – 00:42:39.60

Maybe now, because the show, yeah, that's kind of a cool thing, all right. The Timberwolves are up to with two and a half minutes left.

00:42:39.66 – 00:42:48.98

All right, other draft notes I had. Keon Coleman Rocks. Yes, that was an awesome, awesome introductory press conference when he was like, Guess where I got this jacket from?

00:42:49.00 – 00:43:07.32

And then one of the bills were like, from Tom Izzo, he's like, No, Macy's. And then he also said, Uh. Keon Coleman said that he went out on, he saw the field and he scored three touchdowns in his head in 30 seconds. Which, as far as he knows, is a record. It's a record. well, it's a record for.

2Speaker 2
00:43:07.32 – 00:43:16.54

Thinking that you scored, it's he definitely set that record. I actually would say that's not a record. I've never thought that. I've scored more than three and 30 seconds, three seems to be like.

1Speaker 1
00:43:16.54 – 00:43:23.92

Two, I don't know. I think there's gotta be a Buffalo Bills fan who's looked at that end zone and just been like, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, boom.

00:43:24.06 – 00:43:24.72

How did that go?

2Speaker 2
00:43:24.72 – 00:43:29.72

Like, when you scored your first touchdown, you recovered onside kick. I think he just was like.

1Speaker 1
00:43:29.84 – 00:43:32.98

Oh, I'm going to score a touchdown in the back corner and then I'm going to get one in the front.

2Speaker 2
00:43:33.24 – 00:43:48.02

Yeah, one in the middle, the part about the coat was so funny. To talk about how he buys his coats in the off season, so right now he's looking at shopping for winter coats. Because if you get it now, it's it's way less expensive than if you wait until like October or November to get it. Also, Xavier Leggett.

00:43:48.06 – 00:43:51.64

Awesome voice, awesome voice, awesome voice. Loved his press, incredible.

00:43:51.64 – 00:43:55.24

I would, I would listen to him, just read the phone book. Yeah, he's great.

1Speaker 1
00:43:55.40 – 00:44:09.14

We also had, uh, oh. Speaking of the bills, Josh Allen will be the first quarterback in NFL history to, uh, handoff or throw pass to two separate frank course.

2Speaker 2
00:44:09.96 – 00:44:13.86

Oh, yeah, Frank or junior time with him? Yep, yeah, and he played with Frank or senior.

00:44:13.96 – 00:44:20.54

Yep, that's kind of cool, that is very cool. And Frank, or Junior, he, uh, his dad is really standing for him pretty hard, which I love, yeah.

00:44:20.54 – 00:44:28.14

Dad's like, Yeah, he's a carbon copy of me. We had all the same measurables. Nobody thought I was going to be a great running back. That was probably because of the injuries in college, yeah.

00:44:28.34 – 00:44:31.18

Um, but yeah, what, what if Frank or junior? what if he just?

1Speaker 1
00:44:31.18 – 00:44:53.64

Plays for 20 years. I listen, Frank or Junior? I got to look it up. There was a game where, uh, Southern Miss didn't have a quarterback and he played, I think he played quarterback and running back. And it was just the Frank or junior show for the entire game. Where he, like, ran the 30 times through it a few times and it was awesome. And I was like, I'm a Frank or junior guy.

2Speaker 2
00:44:53.64 – 00:45:03.10

Now, too, yeah, he's fun. There's actually a bunch of sons that got signed. uh, it was Frank or Junior Jerry. Jerry. Rice's kid got drafted a little bit later than people thought.

00:45:03.44 – 00:45:11.00

Uh, we have another McCaffrey in the NFL. yep, he's a wide receiver, was a quarterback, uh, and then there was somebody else, what other? what others?

00:45:11.10 – 00:45:25.68

Oh, Jeremiah Trotter, Jeremiah Trotter for the Eagles, that I love. All the behind the scenes phone calls where they show the GM picking up the phone, calling the kid, the owner gets on the line. That was a great one, cause they also talked to Jeremiah Trotter senior.

00:45:26.34 – 00:45:36.42

And, uh, it looked like Lori was going to cry. Yeah, no, it was cool he talked about. He was like, I've known you since you were about two or three. Um, yeah, Axeman, Axeman junior coming in.

00:45:36.62 – 00:45:45.10

Yeah, I think also memes wanted me to say Joe Walt, he was. he was screaming, say Joe Walt, say Joe Walt, say Joe Walt. I guess, oh, Joe's dad's play, yeah.

00:45:45.26 – 00:45:46.16

Yeah, and Joe.

1Speaker 1
00:45:46.16 – 00:45:53.70

All the very Harbaugh Joe all came to the facility in Harbaugh immediately. It was like, Who's taller? You were your dad? He made them stand back to back.

00:45:55.66 – 00:46:02.96

He's meeting his new first round pick and he was like, you guys stand back to back. I got to check this out real quick. Maybe we're what genes were working with cause.

00:46:02.96 – 00:46:04.34

Maybe room to grow if his dad's taller.

00:46:08.34 – 00:46:12.32

Yeah, oh, I mean, we didn't talk about it on Thursday. We should have those bad job by us.

2Speaker 2
00:46:13.24 – 00:46:18.74

Roger Goodell was just perked out. Yeah, he was, he was. he was pill headed, he was duck walking, yeah.

00:46:19.08 – 00:46:24.20

Moving slow, talking slow. He was standing very close to Eminem at the start of the show.

1Speaker 1
00:46:24.36 – 00:46:31.74

Yeah, yeah, it was a, I mean, he, he got his, he got his black back blown out. Yeah, by the way, did Bradley Beal say something before this game?

00:46:31.76 – 00:46:38.52

Like, we're not going out like this and I think he scored nine points, that's tough. Yeah, I don't think. No trade clause to Bradley Beal.

00:46:39.58 – 00:46:47.78

Yeah, we'll have to recap this as soon as it goes final. The the Mavs or, sorry, the Wolves are up for right now with a minute 40. I want them to sweep them.

2Speaker 2
00:46:47.88 – 00:47:05.00

And we're going to talk about it with Peter Schrager in a little bit. But the video that came out on Friday of David Tepper walking into the Charlotte area restaurant. Because the sign outside said, Please let the GM make the picks this year. Uh, Tepper saw that he went in there with it, looked how many goons did they have with him? He had, like, at least he just, he had.

1Speaker 1
00:47:05.00 – 00:47:13.62

One guy, I think it was one goon, but it was kind of like, a I think he's, I think he hired a security guard. That's just basically tepper light, like they've had the same body type, which doesn't.

2Speaker 2
00:47:13.62 – 00:47:30.64

Really make a lot of sense. So they go in there and on the on the security footage, they're talking to the owner of the restaurant, or I think it was the owner. And the guy's wearing a hat and Tepper just takes his hat off his head and puts it down in front of him. That's the most emasculating move you can do. Yeah, taking another man's hat off, especially when you're David Tepper with that.

1Speaker 1
00:47:31.18 – 00:47:38.26

Balding pattern Yeah, cause he has classic rich guy male pattern baldness if if an owner took.

2Speaker 2
00:47:38.26 – 00:47:47.48

My hat off my head, I would show up like Christopher Maltasanti in the neck brace, like Tony Khan. Yeah, I'd be like, Oh that you, you broke my neck when you took my hat off, Yeah, he.

1Speaker 1
00:47:47.66 – 00:47:57.42

Uh, a complete like. And the report came out after, like, he wasn't bothered. Every time I'm not bothered, I try to steal someone's hat. Yeah, if, honestly, if somebody.

2Speaker 2
00:47:57.42 – 00:48:10.98

Took your hat off because it was a big day online for people being like, I don't care who you are. If another man takes my hat off, I would never. I'm going to beat the shit out of that. In that situation. Would you have fucked David Tepper up? I would have fucked him up, I, I thought about that.

00:48:10.98 – 00:48:19.44

And I was like, I think I would have liked to say that I fucked him up. But I do think that faking injury is the right move. Do you know what he should have done is?

1Speaker 1
00:48:20.04 – 00:48:31.84

For a guy like David Tepper, who's probably very litigious, so you don't want to get in a lawsuit with him and everything. And you know, there's cameras, guy takes your hat, just throw him a fucking fake punch and watch him flinch like a bitch. Yeah, is that assault?

00:48:32.10 – 00:48:35.56

I don't think it is. No, definitely not. Yeah, don't touch him, yeah.

00:48:35.60 – 00:48:37.42

You then would have to do two for flinching.

2Speaker 2
00:48:37.48 – 00:48:40.62

Which you can then say is assault no, but legally, two for flinching, that's allowed.

1Speaker 1
00:48:40.78 – 00:48:50.48

That's, yeah, that is allowed. But imagine if that was on the tape, where you're just like a little juke him. I would have done that. And then you could maybe even get the other guy to throw a.

2Speaker 2
00:48:50.48 – 00:48:58.40

Punch and then now, now you're set. I would have been like, I'm sorry, we spilled some of our famous sauce on your chest, and then he looks down and boop.

00:48:58.40 – 00:49:00.02

Yeah, do that one to him who got.

1Speaker 1
00:49:00.02 – 00:49:10.40

Hurt in the son's game? The coach, Oh no, what happened? Uh, wait, that's not. There was a loose ball, but that's like an assistant coach.

00:49:11.16 – 00:49:18.30

Oh, no, that is the coach, shit, that's bad, by the way. Anthony Edwards just snatch a soul.

00:49:19.10 – 00:49:25.42

Katie didn't jump up. Business decision Damn, but he snatched him. Is that guy okay?

00:49:27.88 – 00:49:37.62

What, what just happened? Mike Connelly was going for a loose ball, uh, on the sideline, ran right into the coach. Chris Finch just went down, yep, and oh, fuck it up.

00:49:37.72 – 00:49:38.16

This guy.

2Speaker 2
00:49:38.20 – 00:49:40.22

This guy does not look ready to coach.

00:49:42.22 – 00:49:45.44

He's got the biggest oh shit, I am not prepared for this.

1Speaker 1
00:49:46.32 – 00:49:50.80

Is Dennis Hopper drunken hoosiers? Yeah, and like, I don't want to be out here, Yeah, this is.

2Speaker 2
00:49:51.56 – 00:49:58.48

They better make these free throws, this, I mean, he's not ready for the Suns, though. Can you pull it up for us?

00:50:01.78 – 00:50:07.12

He looks like he just did not do any assignment whatsoever. Now he's about to give a presentation.

00:50:08.94 – 00:50:11.88

Oh, all right, now he's fighting with the other assistant.

00:50:13.98 – 00:50:15.42

All right, they made.

1Speaker 1
00:50:15.42 – 00:50:21.52

Their oh, his knee, that didn't look like it was that bad. Oh, and it was it was Mike Connelly.

2Speaker 2
00:50:21.62 – 00:50:24.02

Oh, I don't know.

00:50:25.70 – 00:50:26.44

Oh, no.

00:50:28.46 – 00:50:30.82

Is that a knee, or like broken leg?

00:50:33.88 – 00:50:40.58

What if he just has to poop? It was like the Paul Pierce all over again, he's got to finish this.

1Speaker 1
00:50:40.58 – 00:50:50.18

Game, I think he's saying, if they were not down three, Oh, is this LeBron? Oh, I don't know. This is very funny, though.

00:50:50.42 – 00:50:56.22

To have your to lose your coach to a knee injury right before a sweep, you know? Hey, blow the ball up, yeah.

00:50:57.74 – 00:50:58.62

It's not Frank Vogel.

00:51:01.04 – 00:51:04.62

They got to show him again, I want to see him again, he looks like Joe Prunty.

2Speaker 2
00:51:05.06 – 00:51:12.82

I got it, I got to find out. Like, Joe Prunty, Yeah, do you think they've got reporters following this guy to the locker room? Oh, they have to for x-rays.

00:51:12.96 – 00:51:14.64

Yeah, they have to, they have to.

1Speaker 1
00:51:14.64 – 00:51:21.44

Give us a report on this. Um, okay, I think that was everything from the draft. Yeah, oh, shout out our guy, Tony Shuffler.

00:51:21.62 – 00:51:35.36

Did you guys see that? No, he rocked, he got up, did a great speech, said, put Mike Shannon in the Hall of Fame. And they said, God bless Bo Nix. He was, he was doing the the Broncos uh uh pick.

00:51:35.38 – 00:51:48.80

And then he got Josh McDaniels trending, which was great, that's awesome, yeah. So there was just a bunch of people being like, I like. Tony Shuffler was one of my favorite draft picks, like, what, what could have been if Josh McDaniels didn't trade him?

00:51:48.80 – 00:51:54.62

And and, uh, Jay Cutler, I love that. Yeah, good for Tony, he's getting a lot of hate on on Josh McDaniels.

00:51:54.68 – 00:52:01.18

All right, let's do Who's back of the week? Then we've got two great interviews, talking more draft with Peter Schrager, talking N.BA with.

2Speaker 2
00:52:01.18 – 00:52:15.10

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1Speaker 1
00:52:33.54 – 00:52:46.40

Streaming now only on Peacock. All right, who's back the week? Let's save, uh, sons and wolves for after Caruso before we do lottery ball. So we'll, we'll. We'll recap The Sun's debacle if they end up losing.

00:52:46.66 – 00:53:01.34

So if you want to listen to that, if you want to, if you all Wolves fans don't get upset, we mentioned you, we're going to mention you. Uh, we'll get to that after, uh, Caruso and trigger Hank. Who's back the week? my who's back the week is M.L.B. uniforms. I had that too.

00:53:01.74 – 00:53:12.74

Nice congrats. Um, there was a report that came out that basically said, Nike fucked up the uniforms. We're working to fix them, we're going to get the bigger names in the back of the jerseys.

00:53:13.16 – 00:53:23.04

Uh, and everything should be fixed at the latest at the start of the 2025 season. What? Yeah, they also absolved the weight fanatics completely. I don't know if that was, you know, it's interesting.

00:53:23.12 – 00:53:33.40

The fix was in. It's interesting, isn't it? But it was. It made very clear that it was entirely a Nike issue and no, nothing to do with anyone else. Not a fanatic fanatics problem at all, just a.

2Speaker 2
00:53:33.40 – 00:53:52.78

Weird, just Nike. So yeah, they're they're returning to the larger lettering on the back of the jerseys, they're fixing the mismatched gray tops and bottoms. Okay, and, uh, they're addressing Nike's propensity to collect sweat. Meaning like the, uh, the, the pooling of the sweat and also the see-throughness of the pants.

00:53:53.04 – 00:53:59.58

See-throughness So you've got a problem when that has to be put into the press. Yeah, they should be less see-through in the pants area, see-through.

00:53:59.70 – 00:54:05.06

Yeah, players should be able to slide, yes, without the uniform busting their ass open, yeah.

00:54:05.10 – 00:54:17.46

I'm, I'm sad. I mean, I'm glad that we get to watch an entire more season of baseball. With having this be like a a weird thing that we get to all pay attention to. I like that, I like that, but, uh, yeah, they're trying to fix it.

00:54:17.56 – 00:54:34.88

Now I did, I read one thing that said that the guys in the M.L.B PA might be investors in fanatics. Oh, and so maybe that was why people are pointing at Nike for being the problem, not fanatics. I think it's just a weird coincidence, probably just one of those weird coincidences.

00:54:35.06 – 00:54:37.62

Yeah, so Nike, so it was Nike.

1Speaker 1
00:54:37.88 – 00:54:51.22

I said Nike was trying to innovate something that didn't need to be innovated, which is fair. Sometimes you got to take a shot, right? Take a chance. No, I, I. It's a debacle by fanatics and Nike, yeah.

00:54:51.24 – 00:54:52.90

I mean, that's what Nike, that's what Nike does.

2Speaker 2
00:54:53.38 – 00:55:00.66

Like, that's basically what, what businesses do? They innovate stuff, and they're like, you need this now? Yeah, Apple does that all the time.

00:55:00.68 – 00:55:06.68

Yeah, aren't you bored with the thing that's been working all these years? Yeah, hey, you know your phone. don't you need a new one? yeah.

00:55:06.82 – 00:55:10.82

Well, no, not really. Don't you need another camera on your phone? Well, it's too bad your.

1Speaker 1
00:55:10.82 – 00:55:25.40

Battery sucks now and you have to get a new one. Yeah, ever thought, Uh, hey, if I'm standing a mile away from a mountain top, do you want to zoom in and be able to see a flower on that mountain top? You find yourself in this position a lot, you definitely need one.

00:55:25.60 – 00:55:26.40

Hey, aren't you sick?

2Speaker 2
00:55:26.40 – 00:55:37.66

Of having a phone, an iPad, a computer. Don't you want a giant, huge phone that wraps around your eyes and doesn't allow you to watch porn on it? Yeah, wouldn't that be good? Yeah, that would.

1Speaker 1
00:55:37.66 – 00:55:39.28

Be good, yeah, yeah, don't sign me up, yeah.

00:55:39.28 – 00:55:41.84

Aren't you sick of talking to people and going outside?

2Speaker 2
00:55:42.20 – 00:55:45.40

Yeah, oh, we have your escape. Yeah, here we go. You love this now.

00:55:45.48 – 00:55:46.78

Yeah, hey, remember that truck?

1Speaker 1
00:55:46.78 – 00:55:54.04

You had, what if we just made it a big cube and called it a cyber truck? yeah, what if we fixed?

2Speaker 2
00:55:54.04 – 00:56:01.40

It aren't you sick of your brain having its own thoughts? Wouldn't you rather just have a chip in there that does all your thoughts for you? Yeah, wouldn't that be better?

00:56:01.52 – 00:56:02.08

That would be better.

1Speaker 1
00:56:02.28 – 00:56:15.58

By the way, I have a hack, I shouldn't say it because it's gonna. If you're ever in traffic and you're trying to merge into a lane, you shouldn't be merging into. Yeah, wait for a.

2Speaker 2
00:56:15.58 – 00:56:18.82

Tesla They automatically have to stop. Oh yeah, yeah, the cars are the sensors.

00:56:18.94 – 00:56:19.28

I shouldn't say.

1Speaker 1
00:56:19.28 – 00:56:25.52

That because, well, actually, I don't have a Tesla, so I don't give a fuck, but yeah, little little hack for people out there, it's good, pretty good, right?

00:56:25.62 – 00:56:26.42

Unless it's the one.

2Speaker 2
00:56:26.42 – 00:56:29.92

Time where it doesn't stop. Then you're fucked, then you're, yeah, but those, those cars will.

1Speaker 1
00:56:29.92 – 00:56:36.10

Stop and you're good to go when you're the asshole that has to merge. Smart. Yeah, uh.

2Speaker 2
00:56:36.30 – 00:56:45.30

My who's back of the week was going to be old uniforms, but Hank took it. So I'm going to say, my who's back of the week is Kony? you guys remember Kony? Uh, yeah, that was what, uh.

1Speaker 1
00:56:45.30 – 00:56:49.76

That was a Billy football play. yeah, that was billy football play in Uganda. Yeah, it was their.

2Speaker 2
00:56:49.76 – 00:56:55.70

Goal line, package. And then their whole team was like, we don't say that word, yeah, please stop saying that word. And Billy kept looking around like Kony.

00:56:56.04 – 00:57:01.30

Yeah, Kony, why are they all looking at me? Weird to say, Kony? So apparently Russian mercenaries, they're a good group.

00:57:01.52 – 00:57:16.98

They're in hot pursuit of the notorious warlord Joseph Kony after a bloody near capture in a remote corner of the Central African Republic earlier this month. Sources tell Rolling Stone magazine. So Kony might be on, he might be like, dead, maybe we did it.

00:57:17.08 – 00:57:20.16

Oh, all those YouTube clicks that we did back in 2012.

00:57:20.46 – 00:57:29.80

See a bitch finally paid off, He's finally gone, he's finally gone. But also, according to Billy, something in Uganda that people just say all the time is they call each other Kony.

00:57:30.56 – 00:57:50.92

So if, if there, if there's a politician that you don't like, you'll be like, that guy is basically Kony, or he'll be like, I think he is Kony. And then it's like a slur you could put on somebody, God. So the Kony accusations are running wild in Uganda. Who knows if this is the actual Kony, or if it's just some guy that got accused of being Kony because they never caught Kony?

00:57:51.26 – 00:57:57.30

So Kony could be anybody? Yeah, Kony could be Hank, Kony could be Hank, he's our Kony.

00:57:57.46 – 00:57:57.74

Yeah.

1Speaker 1
00:57:59.44 – 00:58:07.16

Bring back cocky hank. No, you're up two, one and three. One job's not finished, like, what the fuck?

00:58:07.22 – 00:58:12.10

You're a pussy, you're a pussy, you are a pussy, that's fine. I mean, I can't exist on the show.

00:58:12.10 – 00:58:19.36

It's literally a breathe one way, breathe the other way. No say that, go back to saying this, speak.

00:58:19.48 – 00:58:23.48

Don't speak, don't speak. we always want you to speak, speak, we always want you to speak.

2Speaker 2
00:58:23.82 – 00:58:29.82

READ Speak be. We want all that you did. quit speaking when your teams were losing.

1Speaker 1
00:58:30.22 – 00:58:33.44

That's, that's just like a gaslighting thing, you guys say. I know it's very true.

2Speaker 2
00:58:33.62 – 00:58:37.34

There's a lot of evidence I would love a supercut of Hank saying, gaslighting.

1Speaker 1
00:58:37.34 – 00:58:49.66

Yeah, well, he can't speak. yeah, so now you're gaslighting him and you're not speaking again. Well, like Matt, I mean, P Max, like your example with PFT. At the bar, like, they just say these things that you do at the bar, and I was there.

00:58:49.76 – 00:58:50.40

That didn't happen.

2Speaker 2
00:58:51.94 – 00:58:55.76

What PFT said Correct? Oh yeah, yeah, but the thing is, I was joking about that.

00:58:55.90 – 00:58:56.42

I've never.

1Speaker 1
00:58:56.42 – 00:58:58.28

Gaslighted you about something you said at a bar?

00:58:59.88 – 00:59:02.64

I don't know what you're talking about, I haven't.

2Speaker 2
00:59:03.84 – 00:59:13.70

I, I want to say I agree, but I feel like you're bringing this up because I don't go out. But also Max has said a lot of things in a lot of bars, that's true, one thing about Max.

1Speaker 1
00:59:13.90 – 00:59:19.86

He'll beat the fuck out of hank. I never said that, I never said that, Yeah, you said that.

2Speaker 2
00:59:19.90 – 00:59:31.82

You said that a lot, that wasn't at a bar, to be fair, that was just existing out loud. Remember when he kept insisting to the mentalist that Shane Victorino was your favorite player? Let's talk about this.

00:59:31.88 – 00:59:32.36

Come on.

00:59:36.92 – 00:59:54.54

This poor mentalist was brought around a bar at a Super Bowl party, just doing party tricks for the people. He was just trying to wow people, make the time pass. And then he came up to us and he was like, Who's your favorite baseball player of all time? To Jake? And then Jake was like, thinking to himself. He's like, Oh, I think I'm going to tell him, Derek Jeter, I love Derek Jeter.

00:59:54.76 – 01:00:03.08

I was like, No, ask me, ask me. My favorite player. Shane Victorino. I think I was like, Well, you ruined the trick. You're not supposed to say that out loud. I was like, No, but Shane.

1Speaker 1
01:00:03.08 – 01:00:10.46

Victorino fucking rocks, by the way, Draymond Green said. Uh, you got to stay in the game, coach. It's one 40 left. Wish him well, though. wish him well, though.

01:00:10.52 – 01:00:15.54

Call them a pussy. Wish him well, though. call them a pussy. All right, my who's back is Kentucky derby.

01:00:15.58 – 01:00:26.50

It is Kentucky Derby week, very excited for that. We have Randy Moss coming on Friday, uh, we've J.J. Reddick on Wednesday, but Pft, I'll be attending your Kentucky Derby party. This party's gotten so.

2Speaker 2
01:00:26.50 – 01:00:35.62

Much buzz since since Friday when this episode came out. I'm turning people away now. House is going to be full, that's crazy. I had to go to Costco, went to Costco, to Costco Rocks.

01:00:35.86 – 01:00:44.56

Yeah, this is our second consecutive part of my take. We'll, we'll do. An, uh, an impromptu Costco ad went to Costco today, loaded up on hot dogs. You can buy so many things.

1Speaker 1
01:00:44.56 – 01:00:57.92

At Costco, it's insane. I, uh, I had a moment this weekend. On Saturday, I was out with, uh, my two of my kids and my wife. And I was just like, she's like, where should we go for lunch? I was like, why don't we go to Costco?

01:00:58.08 – 01:01:11.18

She's like, for a lunch, I was like, Yeah, hot dog, the giant slice of pizza, and then I got turned down. But the next next week, we'll be doing that when I just, I'll just take the kids, we'll we'll go on a sneak Costco run.

01:01:11.30 – 01:01:11.84

Yeah, I've.

2Speaker 2
01:01:11.84 – 01:01:15.74

Officially reached the point in life where I go to Costco and I'm pumped looking around.

01:01:19.16 – 01:01:19.48

There's a.

1Speaker 1
01:01:19.48 – 01:01:27.98

Costco old man wave. Not only that, but I love that they check the receipt because then I'm, I'm always just like, Yeah, I didn't. Rob. Yeah, check it out bro, it's value.

01:01:28.10 – 01:01:37.76

I have, yeah, look at it. I got. I got 300 mini cupcakes, 75 rolls of toilet paper and 16 gallons of laundry.

2Speaker 2
01:01:37.76 – 01:01:46.34

Detergent I didn't rob. That's the, that's the cycle of life, that's all you need. One of my favorite things to do is walk into a Costco and act like I'm sneaking in.

01:01:46.60 – 01:01:56.24

And then the person's like, excuse me, sir, sir, sir. And then think that they're catching you, sneaking in, and then you turn and you're like, Boom, Costco Executive card. Yeah, have it.

01:01:56.34 – 01:01:57.98

Uh, okay, let's get to our.

1Speaker 1
01:01:57.98 – 01:02:10.86

Interviews We've got Peter Schrager, we've got Alex Crusoe, and then on the other side of the interviews, we will recap. The sons have officially been swept in a sad sad state of affairs for the Phoenix Suns organization. And we'll give a lot of credit to the Wolves.

01:02:10.96 – 01:02:32.82

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01:03:31.88 – 01:03:44.58

Good morning football, Schrags. Let's start with this because we got a lot of questions about winners, losers stories you heard, but the dust has settled. You are the master of some spin zones.

3Speaker 3
01:03:45.10 – 01:03:55.84

Spin zone The Falcons for us. Yep, let's go, let's step right into my office. Okay, well, it's funny because it's like, part of me is all right, have a contrarian take, so I want to defend it.

01:03:55.98 – 01:04:33.18

And then part of me is like, I've got to carry the water for friends in Atlanta, so let's just do what I do. The argument there right now is that there's no worse place to be in the N.FL than quarterback purgatory. And there's no worse place to be than 9-8, 8-9, 10-7, 7-10. And there's a lot of teams in the league that live in that area, and why that area is so bad is. You're just good enough to be in playoff contention every year, but you're not good enough to actually win the thing, and you're not bad enough to get a draft pick.

01:04:33.24 – 01:05:06.40

Now, this is very convoluted thinking if you're considering the goals to win the Super Bowl. This move to them ensures that no matter what happens in the next two to three years, three to five years. If it all goes well for both sides, they will not be in quarterback purgatory. They viewed Michael Pennix as a top 10 prospect in this draft. They themselves do not see them being in the top 10 again now that they have Kirk cousins. So the argument is best player on the board, yes.

01:05:07.16 – 01:05:29.66

And then $180 million, $100 million guaranteed. Kirk's our starter. We fully intend for Kirk to be our starter, but if and when that time comes. Because he's 36, coming off an Achilles, we have our guy and, God forbid, something happens to him. Because, yes, quarterbacks do get injured in the league, the season is not down the drains.

01:05:29.80 – 01:05:55.32

I think they were really scarred by the Desmond ritter, Taylor Heineke, you name whoever else has started for them. Mariota, that they don't want to be in that place again. And I'll say it because I think it is kind of linked together here. This is the same franchise that looked Bill Belichick in the eyes, had two interviews with him and said, Nope, we're good. They're beating to the beat of their own drummer right here.

01:05:55.56 – 01:06:13.58

And in this case, they don't think it's crazy that they took Michael Pennix. If anything, they think more teams should because quarterback is the most valuable position in this league. Times 10. And now they have theirs for the future, while also having their current one that they feel pretty good about. Even they backed it up with all the money they gave them.

1Speaker 1
01:06:13.70 – 01:06:40.72

Yeah, I, I. The more I thought about it, I. I still think. It's crazy in the fact that they probably could have traded back and gotten more assets because the teams that were picking right after them. We saw, you know, Denver was in love with Bo Nix, the Vikings were in love with J.J. McCarthy. It felt like they could have probably moved around a little bit and and fake some teams out and gotten some more draft capital. But the the one thing you could say for the Falcons is it was known as a weak draft for defense.

01:06:40.90 – 01:07:01.18

There wasn't no defensive player taken to the 15th pick, and what were the Falcons going to do? The I think the best player available was Roma Dunes. They went to the Bears, but if they take another wide receiver, they get killed for that. Because that would have been four years in a row that they took a running back, wide receiver, tight end. Uh, so I, I guess, listen, they have a chance to be right.

01:07:01.18 – 01:07:08.20

And and right now, they're the laughing sock. But if it works out, it will. There'll be geniuses for it. The stat I got in the modern.

3Speaker 3
01:07:08.20 – 01:07:10.52

Draft era, which is 1966.

01:07:11.16 – 01:07:26.04

They're the first team ever to draft for skill position players on offense, with top eight picks four years in a row. That's wow. So you do bits, you do London, you do Bijan, and now you do panics.

01:07:26.58 – 01:07:46.94

Um, I would add one more thing, like when you're talking about that purgatory. And they didn't name names or name teams to me. But they were just saying, in general, like, that's not a place you want to be. We don't. We don't expect to be in the top 10 anytime soon, like we think we're going to contend, especially in the NFC South with Custom. Um, but I started thinking, like, Well, who would they be different?

01:07:47.04 – 01:08:10.30

And you start thinking, you're like, all right, like, look at Pittsburgh the last decade, look at Denver the last decade. None of these teams have first overall picks, but they are in that 10 to 20 range, you know, and it's all right, the Titans, and it's like, all right, well, how are you getting a quarterback? Well, in this case, they got theirs. Now. Someone said to me, you know, it's like Jordan Lowe, and we've all debunked that.

01:08:10.66 – 01:08:18.22

I The analogy to me is, imagine the Jet signed Aaron Rogers last year and did all that hoopla and then drafted a quarterback in the top 10.

01:08:18.30 – 01:08:23.44

Like, that's how this feels. It's not Jordan Love and Aaron Rogers, it's the Jets kind of signing Aaron Rogers cousins.

01:08:23.82 – 01:08:35.20

That relationship was in a great place, I think. Cousins threw out a first pitch to a Braves game a couple of days ago. I think, and I have to double check this. I think he was part of, like the Falcons, draft festivities. Oh, no.

01:08:35.76 – 01:08:38.76

The old Mike Lennon Yeah, so I was going to.

2Speaker 2
01:08:38.76 – 01:08:43.92

Ask you about Kirk. Have you checked in on him? Is he okay? We heard a little bit about Kirk.

3Speaker 3
01:08:44.38 – 01:09:04.68

Every other media member apparently has had a heart to heart with them the day. Of the amount of people that tweets like, Kirk was surprised. There's like 18 different versions of it. I haven't reached out and I know his agent, Mike McCartney, very well, but I haven't spoken to him either. Um, yeah, no. Apparently he didn't know that was going to happen. But I've told the story and I'll tell it one more time.

01:09:04.76 – 01:09:12.38

Peyton was with the Saints and they had the 11th pick in the draft in 2018 or 2017.

01:09:12.64 – 01:09:21.90

Sorry, and they wanted my homes, like my home's number one, on their board, and they hadn't told Breeze they had no intention of telling Breeze. But if my home somehow fell to 11, they were taking a quarterback.

01:09:22.68 – 01:09:30.58

And then Drew Breeze Out of nowhere. I'd never done this in his career, called up Sean Payton. They're like best friends, and it's like I've got a couple of buddies in town.

01:09:30.66 – 01:09:44.50

Is it cool if I? If I bring them to the war room with a draft? So that Sean has to decide, like, what do I do here? And he tells the story. I don't know if you've ever told it publicly, but it's great. And he's like, So right, then and there, I'm like, sure.

01:09:45.12 – 01:09:58.64

And then I pulled Drew aside. I'm like, there's a chance, there's this kid from Texas Tech, we really like it if there's a chance. If I take them. And as picks go by one, by one, by one, like he's, he sits, drew down, like seventh pick overall.

01:09:58.64 – 01:10:10.26

And he says to Drew, he's like, we're going to take the Texas Tech quarterback and to Drew. Breezes credit. Cause the story is much better if Drew Breeze takes out like a two by four and breaks it over. Pay. And said he was just like, got to do what you got to do.

01:10:10.32 – 01:10:16.42

This is the height of Drew Breeze. Like I think the next year they went to the NFC Championship game. And Breeze is like, you got to do what you got to do for the future. I totally get it.

01:10:16.48 – 01:10:43.34

Like, Breeze was cool about it, and then Andy retrades up one pick before them gets my homes, they take Marshawn Lattimore, and Breeze was there to watch it all. But, like, it's never a comfortable conversation, and if you don't take the guy, you don't ever want to even like, Uh, let the other quarterback know that. Because the alternative is what happened to Rogers, where he was, I think, down in Peru or Chile when it happened and was completely blindsided and was, you know, upset by it.

01:10:43.40 – 01:11:00.10

But cousins, um, I think he left Minnesota cause he wanted that commitment, right, like, and these guys gave him the commitment. But here comes Michael Penix, who Chris Sims made a great point. I'm training camp. Cousins is awesome, obviously, Cousins is still rehabbing.

01:11:00.16 – 01:11:12.82

Like, no one throws a prettier football, maybe anywhere in the league or in college. And Michael Penix? I was at the combine, like two feet behind him. It was like watching Mozart compose music, or it was like watching Van.

01:11:12.82 – 01:11:23.82

Gogh, it was just like this lefty big release with this like tight spiral throws, just bullets, but they're like, so beautiful. And it's once these players start catching passes from panics and Cousins is on the side like.

2Speaker 2
01:11:24.36 – 01:11:42.08

It's going to be something, I mean. Is there any anything at all to him? Being a lefty quarterback where it's like, okay, well, maybe some teams don't would prefer not to have a left-handed quarterback because it does look different for the wide receivers. Like, is that something that people do take into account? Cause watching lefties on TV, I'm like, that's that person's a.

3Speaker 3
01:11:42.08 – 01:11:44.60

Witch It looks wrong, it looks weird, yeah.

01:11:46.16 – 01:12:01.08

Yeah, is that you're saying that? I, like, some people were down on. Penix is the lead, I think the more the medicals. But the Falcons are super high on them. And I think if the Vikings, just based on my intel, if the Vikings didn't get McCarthy, they were very comfortable taking Penix at 11, yeah.

01:12:01.10 – 01:12:23.84

I think the I think the Broncos if Knicks, I think the Broncos had Knicks over Penix, but who knows if that was a smokescreen? I think if he was there at 12, so like, it was more the team than where he went. Like, you know, he goes eighth overall to another team. We're like, all right, it's a little early than we thought. But the fact that they just signed Cousins that I was, how'd you guys think it? where'd you? how'd you find it out?

01:12:23.84 – 01:12:59.70

Like, I, I had this whole like flea online and then I did it on Good Morning Football on Thursday. Where I'm like, please don't tip picks like just don't, or if you do if you do, tip picks. Like if you're a viewer at home, like, try to lay off, like, cause there will be something cool and shocking and different that happens tonight. You don't want to find it out from a random tweet from like, Jordan and Schultz or Shams Charney. Cause what happens is, and I'll give you the behind the curtain either. A good reporting. Someone from the team submits the card, and there's someone in the room who can tweet a report, text a reporter and be like, Dude, we're taking penix.

01:12:59.76 – 01:13:21.18

And then that reporter, good for them, they can go public with it. I don't know if that's how the fan wants it, but that's fair. Or maybe more dubious, is at at the N.FL teams, all 32 of them. When another team submits their pick, where it says the pick is in on the board, where it's like all 32 teams get that before it's announced on television.

01:13:21.64 – 01:13:32.32

So all it takes is one person who has a source at any of the teams to say, Oh, Falcons just took Penix. And then they run to Twitter, like, did you find out from a tweet? or did you guys find out what?

2Speaker 2
01:13:32.32 – 01:13:40.88

You did, yeah, so so. Every year I have a ritual and I like Albert Breer, he's been on the show before. I think when he got hacked right, we had a good guy, good reporter, good guy.

01:13:41.26 – 01:14:01.98

Every year I mute him on draft night because he tweets out, he tweets out every single pick. And I have. And then I forget for about, I don't know, usually like two or three weeks that I haven't muted. Come back at Ota, I gotta, I gotta bring Albert back in the timeline, but yeah, I found out from one of his tweets. And I was sitting in our war room here at Barstool and my my jaw was just on the floor for like a minute. I couldn't believe it.

01:14:02.78 – 01:14:17.84

It's not that he's a bad player. And if you think that if you haven't graded it as a top 10 worthy pick in terms of a quarterback, then yeah. I guess it could make sense and it might pan out from the longterm. But at the time I was, I couldn't believe it because it didn't make sense for about 10 different reasons.

3Speaker 3
01:14:18.44 – 01:14:26.98

Yeah, and the salary cap hit on Cousins is so much. And now you're adding another quarterback to the fold, Dan, what about you? Same thing.

1Speaker 1
01:14:27.16 – 01:14:39.58

I, I found out from we were doing no spoilers in the in the in our war room. The only one I spoiled was I wanted to know the Bears ninth pick before anyone else, so no one could spoil it. And I had the same reaction, I was like, what the fuck?

01:14:39.60 – 01:14:49.90

Like, and I get it, Kirk Cousins is in. He's on a two-year deal, everyone says four, it's two-year deal, so when I get it, I understand. Like you always, you don't want to be in a spot where you need a quarterback.

01:14:49.90 – 01:15:22.60

You want to be, you know, you have your next guy already, and Kirk Cousins isn't young. But it still was just shocking to me. Just because I think they could have traded and gotten, I think they could have gotten them somewhere later and gotten more draft capital. And like, that's to me the the. The winners and losers of the drafts are the guys who are able to maneuver it and get who they want, but also get the most out of it. Like even the bears, like, the story came out that, uh, I think it was Ian Cunningham was holding Ryan pulls back cause he wanted to trade up to get room. Roma Doonzay.

01:15:22.70 – 01:15:32.68

So if he trades up to get Roma Doonzay, yeah, we still have Roma Doonzay, but he just gives away picks next year. That is a that would be a mistake. Instead, they they were patient, they got the player they wanted.

01:15:32.68 – 01:15:38.30

So it's like those little maneuvers are the winning and losing drafts, and I think the Falcons could have maneuvered better.

3Speaker 3
01:15:38.58 – 01:16:08.80

That's all, yeah, that's fair. Um, the, you know, Payton was taken like, great, great pride in that he got the the Jets to the Vikings to trade up with the Jets. I think he was bragging about it, like, you know, but that's, that's the game of chicken. So the Vikings, through fear that the the Broncos were going to jump them, made a trade with the Jets to go up. Just one pick. And then they took care of it at 10 and just got McCarthy there. When you know if they had stayed, he's probably there anyway, the jets, you know. And maybe Sean Payton wasn't gonna be able to pull that trade off, but you're right.

01:16:08.92 – 01:16:49.46

And that's what these guys get such a high on, too. Like, that's the best stories of. What if we had made that trade, or what if we moved back, or what if we stayed put and did this? Um, you know, everyone thought the jets were taking Brock bowers, and this year they actually there were no leaks out of the building. They take Olu out of, uh, you know, out of Penn State. Broncos, take the quarterback, and then, you know, talking to the Raiders guys, who knows if they would have taken Pennix if he was on the board? But they did not think in a million years, Brock Bowers was going to be sitting there at 13. They just took Michael Mayer last year in their case, they're like, he's one of the cleanest prospects in this entire draft.

01:16:49.72 – 01:16:59.06

We'll find a way to use them. We need offense everywhere. So then Brock Bowers, who I can promise you in a million different mock drafts, not one of them had Brock Bowers going to the Raiders, but that's the beauty of the draft.

1Speaker 1
01:16:59.16 – 01:17:12.76

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Okay, let's get back to some more Peter Schrager who out there and talking to everyone. I know everyone loves their draft, everyone gets an eight plus in their own room. But who do you think, uh, did the best? Maneuvering the board, getting, you know, filling holes? And you walked away? Being like, I think that team is just way better than they were walking into Thursday night.

3Speaker 3
01:19:01.64 – 01:19:34.42

There's one that's going to be pandering to one of you that I can talk about, and there's another one that I think is there's. There's no fans in that room right now, but I think Washington had a really, really good draft. Nine different picks, nine different positions. Got a bunch of players who can play right away. And I think Jaden Daniels is the perfect mix of, has a ton of experience. He's 23 and then he's still electric. And I think I think what they did around him with the tight, then Senate and then, of course, getting the offensive lineman, Coleman.

01:19:34.48 – 01:20:07.30

But I like, I love the fact that they got Johnny Newton in the second round, like Adam Peters for a first year. GM like, that was awesome. And then I think the Arizona Cardinals, who had so many picks, they they hit a home run out. They're not a sexy team. I couldn't tell you, you know, five guys that contributed on their roster last year. But like you talk around the league, everyone's like, you know? Arizona compiled a bunch of picks and they got a bunch of guys who are going to play right away. And then I really, I know, there was only five picks, but I thought, Chicago with what they did. I mean, you get Caleb and a doomsday, and then the kid from Duke, who everyone was really high on, or Yale.

01:20:07.56 – 01:20:13.58

Everyone was really high on, like, that's a really good draft, that's three contributors that are going to play on a team that I think was a couple of.

1Speaker 1
01:20:13.58 – 01:20:26.18

Games away from being a playoff. Yeah, I mean, the draft, the draft was the first round for me because with only five picks, it definitely like, Were you hoping they would trade back from a doomsday? or were you? I was? I was cool with whatever. I'm in full trust. Ryan pulls everything he does.

01:20:26.18 – 01:20:46.98

Like, I don't think he's been, I think he, he. Actually. I'm working on a theory that he did the Chase Clay Pool deal on purpose. So that everyone was like, this guy's dumb. And then every deal he's made since has been a genius. So he, basically, yeah, he completely rope-a-doped the league by being like, who would trade a second for Chase Claypool? What an idiot. And then everything he's done since has been gold.

01:20:47.14 – 01:20:54.54

Uh, by the way, when you just said you were pandering, you were going to pander to someone. Max started shaking his head cause he thought you were going to talk about the Eagles. I'm happy you didn't, yeah.

01:20:54.54 – 01:20:55.64

He like, literally it.

2Speaker 2
01:20:55.64 – 01:21:01.40

Was one of those moments himself? He's talking about where he he, like, stood up and they're.

1Speaker 1
01:21:01.40 – 01:21:05.48

Like, No, I'm actually talking about the guy behind you, Uh, so he was, Yeah, he, he's very.

2Speaker 2
01:21:05.48 – 01:21:15.20

Excited about his draft? I thought the commander's trade with the Eagles in the second round was genius. We fleeced the Eagles. They gave up so much to take Cooper to Jean when kool-aid McKinstry was still on the board. I love that pick.

01:21:15.28 – 01:21:30.72

I love to see that happen in the division. And then Adam Peters is, uh, I think he's like the best player available. God. So, if you had asked me going into the draft what the commander should be doing, I was saying, like, load up on the offensive line, get some big boys, have somebody protect Jaden, you got one lineman.

01:21:30.94 – 01:21:58.24

We got one lineman in third round. But what he did I thought a really good job of is, um, he realizes that the needs a ton of work, right? So we're not. We're not like an offensive lineman away from being a contender for the Superbowl. So he just saw value. Getting great players, even if it was a position of strength, get good young players wherever you can. I thought he did an awesome job of that, but yeah, the the the icing on the cake for me was just fleecing. Max in the second round is absolutely taken him to the woodshed on nine positions.

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