"3 Presidents"

Fellas, how are you doing? Hey, how are you? Was getting in okay? Was there cavity searches?

There was a cavity search and it wasn't good.

It wasn't long enough, actually.

And Sean's went back for seconds. And they said, we don't have anybody come back for a second. It's not Thanksgiving.

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Guys, take a breath and think about what this is about to be. It's fucking insane, you guys.

Yeah.

It's insane.

Do you guys have good questions?

I have a couple.

I have areas.

Way to not prep.

I did prep. I did, I thought. I had a lot of conversations with people.

I've got 18 questions. Oh, good.

I'll just follow you.

I was not joking when I said, I think it's good that we have questions, but I also want to entertain conversations.

Let's just make it a conversation.

And through conversation, questions will come out.

Is that right?

I think so.

Oh, boy.

So how are you guys feeling when you woke up today knowing that this was going to happen? Are we rolling yet?

Are we recording right now?

Yeah.

Are we really?

Yeah. Oh.

This is a whole different. We can say where we are.

I've got to put on my radio voice.

We can say where we are because it's.

After the fact, yeah. We're at the.

So. So we're here. Don't say it.

No, I'm kidding.

Well, we're here.

We're on Central Park South. We're here on Central Park South with a beautiful second story view of the park. It's a little. If second story is beautiful views.

A little rainy.

Tree tops is nice. A little rainy. Yeah. And we very rarely have more than one guest. Sometimes we have two.

When have we. When were the times? we did it?

We had a double. When we have bands on, a lot of the time, we have two.

Like Billy Eilish and Finn. Yeah.

Radiohead.

Radiohead.

Yep. We had.

Duran, Duran. Killers. Oh, no, that was just Simon.

Duran. Duran. Depeche Mode.

The Killers. Oh, the Killers.

Depeche Mode. That was great.

And so today we're doing a first time. It's a little risky. There's three of them.

But it's kind of a band full of rock stars. Bear with us.

Yeah. Yeah. It's like they're like the police.

Yeah.

So you'll be familiar with one of them. The other two he wanted to bring along. I guess his buddies. He gets a little nervous. We've had him on the show before.

They're guys he worked with, I guess.

Yeah. We don't really do repeat guests. But we made an exemption here. And we certainly don't let people bring buddies. But he was insistent.

Can I just say. I'm excited too. And can I just say we're sitting here in this hotel room. as we've already said. It's 2024..

Came out of the gate with Dax Shepard.

Came out of the gate with Dax Shepard. Which was great. But I set the bar high with Dax. And then now here we are in New York.

Four years later. Scrape in the bottom of the barrel. Yeah.

And we're looking at.

With a dude and his buddies.

And we got Rob Arm-Yarv. Arm-Yarv. And we got Bennett Barbercal. And we got MGT. Michael, the G, Terry.

This is cool. Yeah, you got to stop.

This is one of those life moments, right?

You got to stop and like recognize it.

Michael, I just want to say. Michael, how is it for you?

Delightful.

Delightful.

That's it.

Delightful. And I'm proud of us. We haven't screwed it up yet.

Bennett, what do you think? It feels. It's amazing. It's weird, right? It's weird.

Adjectives are incredible.

We've been saying to take a breath.

Rob, Rob, yell, something from over there. How are you feeling? Fantastic.

That's Rob.

Rob has got amazing.

We did limit them each to one word.

And Rob doesn't even have a microphone. No. So it's. thank you for your contributions.

We have been reminding ourselves to be present, though, and take a breath. Yeah, yeah. It's pretty cool.

Now, Will came up to get a ride with my guy that I sometimes hire for, like when I do a Broadway show.

Mikey, who drove me when he was doing. You know, Sean did a play on Broadway last year.

No.

Yeah. What was it called? And it was called Go, Get Me, Oscar.

I think. Right. Right? And it was, wasn't it, the Topachico?

Yeah, the Topachico Theater. Yeah.

And so he came. So Will, I said, do you want a ride? Because I think Jason's close, really close to the hotel. So Will came straight up. The first thing, I put my pants on and I walked out to the living room with my shirt and my pants on.

Great story.

No, but here's the best part. Sean pulls out and he goes, he turns to Scottie and he goes, look at this. And we go, what? And he goes, he's got like $31.. He goes, look at all this money.

Yeah, exactly.

So the dry cleaners? just. He hasn't been here for six months. Dry cleaners.

I haven't been here for six months. So I just put these pants on and I was like, oh, I guess I wore them out.

And there was just the one, just the one pair of socks that you stole from a youngster you were babysitting or.

I know you don't know where the skin ends and the sock starts.

You know, it's fairly high class guests today. You didn't think you'd go with a full length sock. And Will doesn't have socks at all.

I know, but that's the way to go. I know I should have gone full length.

Sean, what do you decide? How do you decide what clothes stay here in your apartment in New York? Like? what's the math that you do on that?

I don't, I just, you know, there's like a couple of t-shirts and clearly a couple of pants, and.

I mean, pants is a stretch. They're jeans.

No, they're not. They're pants. Sorry.

They're stretch jeans.

No, no, no. They're not stretch. They look like jeans. They're dress pants.

They're a brushed cotton jegging.

Yes. Thank you.

But they're in a five pant cut.

Well, look at Jason. Jason's in corduroys and a. Yeah.

But Jason, I mean, Jason looks like he's doing a whole different.

But I'm also living here and I don't have, you know, president of the United States, clothes with me. Yeah. You know, I. You look good.

I said before, you look very rugged and sexy.

Thank you very much. I'm playing a guy that's made a lot of bad decisions.

You know what I like about. your hair is long enough that when you're wearing the headphones right now, it's keeping the hair back, and you've got kind of like a soccer, like a European soccer player vibe.

Slow. He's slowly winking at you.

With the slow winks, we could do it.

Then they're half winks too.

That's so gross.

So you guys have, um, do you have important questions loaded? Do you have fun questions loaded?

A little bit of both.

A little bit of both.

You've got some policy questions, perhaps.

Mine obviously have more to do with, uh, relations with Canada. Right? Sure. Are we going to, is that one of the borders we're closing? I hope not.

I'm still moving cigarettes.

Fuck, I don't care. I'm, I'm muelling some of that sticky BC bud through the interior. I'm coming down through Fernie BC, eh? My brother found a good path last year.

Let's see what they have to say about that. Sure. I want to hear what they're going to say.

Yeah. I wonder, I'm sure they don't want to get into the micro of policy and stuff like that. They're not, they're, they're, I'm sure they would, they'd like us to find a middle ground between drive time, radio and, uh, it's some hard hitting, uh, meet the press conversation. Yeah.

But I mean, I, I can't, I don't know how to formulate those questions. I'm not.

Well, you know, what's interesting is, is that the three of them obviously are very connected and they, they're all sort of from the, the same sort of class, uh, of Democrats in that, right. That they, they were around, Obama was a rising star. You know, president Biden's been around since the 70, he was a Senator, et cetera. Obama came up as this young star in the early two thousands. Nobody will forget his fiery speech of the democratic convention in 2004,.

to back.

Back. Yes. Arkansas. Good. Sean.

And well, it's cool that they all are like together. I don't know that I've, I don't know that I've ever seen that or like, witnessed that. Yeah.

I mean, I don't even see George W and his dad together, but didn't the three of them?

get together for the last election a bit?

Didn't they sort of, um, you're thinking of the three tenors, I think these are not,

We should just start with, let's start the interview, mistaking them for the three tenors. So when do you guys, have you, have you been in rehearsals because the radio city show tonight should be getting the acoustics.

We're so excited for the sound.

What's your warmup like?

Will there be solos or you guys just sing all the songs together?

You guys are slimmer than I remember opera singers.

And your accents are fantastic.

Yeah, exactly. Um, well, guys, I'm honored to be here, not just with them, I'm honored to be here with you guys. And so, on this occasion, not just in the podcast, but in life.

You didn't tell me your name.

And I'm saying it's Will. It's still Will. And I'm really psyched that I get to be here with you guys during this. Likewise.

It's not lost on me. Not to pat ourselves on the back, but just to say briefly, uh, very proud of us that we haven't screwed this up yet. And, and, and that Mr. Biden called us again and wanted to do this again. Wanted to bring us from like, just so, so flattered and humbled, and yeah, that's, it's crazy.

You know, to all of it. Here we go.

It's a, it's an all, uh, an all, new super presidential smartless.

Right. We're just going to come in.

Yes, sir. Microphones too. Yeah.

Thank you. So headphones on.

Yeah. Those headphones right there, please.

And I'm going to swing this in a little bit. Ah.

You're welcome. Mr. Clinton, have you, have you done any time, Mr. Clinton, in a lake of the Ozarks?

Oh yeah.

Right. Cause that was just, that's in your neck of the old woods there.

Yeah. I spent a lot of time. I've been to every voting precincts and in the Northern Arkansas Ozarks. And I have, I had one of the presidents of Walmart came from a little town in the Ozarks, near the lake of the Ozarks. And I went up, they had a day for him.

I can hear fine.

So I've mostly been around up there. You guys hear me?

All good?

But was that ever a vacation spot for you?

No, I didn't take any vacations up there. I was working up there, but I was up there all the time.

But that's, that's a big spot for folks in that part of the country.

Oh yeah. It's really, it's breathtakingly beautiful.

Yeah. Yeah. That lake gets a lot of work.

I mean, judging by your show, Jason, it seems like a pretty dangerous part of the world too.

Well, we didn't, we didn't really spend a lot of time in there. Yeah. We didn't spend a lot of time with it, with the nice part. Not much of a show in there.

My family vacationed there once when I was a kid, and they, everybody got drunk. What a surprise.

Yeah.

I still remember when it was all illegal. We had a sheriff from up there that had a jail, where the cells were all below level.

Below the water level?

No, below ground level. So he was, they were all pot farms.

Uh huh.

Yeah. When it was all still illegal, we made a hell of a lot of money doing it. That's crazy.

Is it legal in Missouri and Arkansas yet?

Are you planning a trip? Sort of.

You basically scout out every state.

We're looking for a sequel.

Can I go here?

Is this okay? Well, it's a sequel. You know, we've done the old.

Honey, we're going to Missouri.

It was more fun when it was illegal.

Uh, huh. Yeah, exactly.

Well, I love doing it.

You should have had me writing some of your scripts for you.

I want to start by, you know, first of all, this is huge for us. And what a massive honor it is to be sitting with the three of you looking at us. It's so bizarre.

It's crazy.

We're all wondering how we ended up here.

No doubt about it.

We've got questions for your staff.

And your questions are only going to grow as to why you did it. As we get into it. And we were saying earlier, four years ago, we started this podcast during COVID as a way to kind of connect with each other. And we ended up connecting with a lot of people out there. And for us, it's a real thrill to be here.

Did you ever get Trump?

Couldn't make his deal. No, we're letting other people get him. Yeah.

Well done, Will.

Thank you. Bravo, bravo.

But it is momentous for us, and especially during this time that we're in right now, to have your time. So we thank you for your time.

Yeah, yeah. This is huge. How do you all know each other? I'm kidding.

I've worked for both of them a long time.

I know.

It's not the first time that you three have combined forces to really kind of do what we all need you guys to do, which is keep you in office. But does it strike you as, like, how is it even necessary to have half a president campaigning against the other guy? It is shocking to me that it takes the amount of effort to be competitive against someone who, just, in my opinion, is just running for the wrong thing.

Well, a lot's changed. A lot's changed in how you communicate. A lot's changed in information. And so much disinformation out there. And, you know, it's really – and it's hard to communicate even today, when you do accomplish some improbable things.

Well, and I'll say that, Mr. President, not to cut you off, but you have accomplished a lot of incredible things. And all three of you did in your presidencies did amazing things. President Clinton, you left this country with a surplus, which is the first time it had been done in a number of years. President Obama, you passed the Affordable Care Act, really started to tackle social issues.

Just keep talking about it. We just keep – we have to connect with people as to how they're being affected, why it's happening. And, you know, one of the things that really startles me is I'm optimistic. I'm genuinely optimistic. Oh, my.

But are they – it seems like they're only watching certain things, reading certain things. Everybody's so siloed in the way in which they receive information. Could it be as simple as you – and don't – you've got very smart people to suggest what it is that you do. But, like, could it be as simple as just, like, granting an hour to Sean Hannity and sit down and go, you tell me why the people who follow you think I'm not a good president. And just answer his questions.

First of all, you guys are exactly right. Joe's got an unbelievable record of accomplishment. If you had told me that the unemployment rate after COVID was going to be back down to 4 percent or lower. Yeah.

Lowest in 50 years, isn't it?

Absolutely. And if you had told me that 15 million jobs would have been created, that wages are higher now than they were pre-pandemic.

Yeah. And the most jobs created in history, correct?

In this four-year period, yes.

That's unbelievable.

In this four-year period. You've got African-American unemployment, right, which is always higher than the general population, the lowest it's been since record-keeping on the issue was taken. So Joe's got a strong message to tell. Jason, you're right. The media environment's changed.

But what do you say to the people who say on the other side the same thing?

Well, you know, I would argue that actually, they've got some legitimate points, in the sense that, you know, there's a side that doesn't recognize conservative thought or, you know, isn't respectful to, you know, some traditional values that they care about, and so forth. The difference, though, is, and Jason touched on it, there's a difference between facts and opinions.

Yeah.

And the one thing that our side still pretty much sticks to is the facts. You may not agree with whatever's in The New York Times or whatever's on MSNBC, but generally they're not going to just make stuff up.

Correct.

And, you know, look, I was in office in 2016, and I would have loved to pretend that the election outcome wasn't what it was. Right. That was painful.

Right.

But we said, well, here are the facts, and there's a system of government that transcends. that is more important than whoever wins this particular election. We're going to abide by those facts and stick with democracy.

Right, right, right.

And that is a shift that's taking place. Now, last point I'd make, though, because you asked, you know, Jason was asking, what do we do? I think Joe's point is right, and that is you just keep on showing up and delivering the message wherever you can, however you can. And if you talk to folks enough, all of us, Bill, Joe, myself, all have the experience of going to places where we may not be the most popular person. People may have some preconceived notions about Barack Hussein Obama.

Mm-hmm. Right?

Jesus.

But if you show up and you make a human connection with people and you talk to them.

We'll be right back.

And back to the show.

It makes your job harder, does it not? I'm asking you, when you wake up in the morning and you have people who say that they're opposed to what you do or what you believe, or whatever, and yet you still have to govern and serve them, no matter what. You do. And it seems, right? And the other guy, he has no problem throwing anybody who's not with him under the bus.

Look, when I got elected, I said I'm going to be president for everyone. We have put more money into red states than blue states. Yes. Not a joke. Yeah, yeah.

Do they know that?

Well, I think it's beginning. But whether they did or not, I have an obligation, it seems to me. Yeah. To take care of the country. That's the job.

No. No. Yeah.

Frankly, a little shameful. As the newest American here.

Yeah.

Because I'm Canadian.

Yeah, I remember that. You know, Canadian, well, look, I've got a Canadian brother-in-law. Canadians are interesting because they sneak up on you. You know, you remember that movie, Invasion of the Body Snatchers? Yeah.

Wait, I saw you at the Raptors game back in, yeah.

No, actually, I love me some Canadians.

I'm always looking behind me when Will and I are walking, just like a certain other Canadian.

There is, and I don't mean to sound cynical with this, but there is a bit of a show element that the other guy seems to really relish in. He loves being and saying things that really attract, you know, some views, some clicks. Like, you know, he's a fun show to watch, I'm sure.

Like the nicknames.

Now, I know you three are uniquely qualified in keeping things classy and elevated and keeping, you know, respect around the office and the job, etc. But is there ever a thought of how one might be able to tack slightly towards the show to sort of combat that a little bit? And you're starting to do it just a little bit, President Biden. And I think it's really like people are loving. You're sort of giving it to them a little bit.

But is there a response?

Yeah, exactly. But is there any thought to like, it's time to kind of pull the gloves off a little bit. And if they want to show, we'll give it to them.

Well, I'm not too sure about the show, but I think if they want the truth, we'll give it to them.

Yeah, amen.

And just go straight at them. Look, you know, like I said at the gridiron dinner, you know, this guy came up to me, asked me if we could borrow some money. And I, you know, I told him, Donald, I can't help you.

Let me, since I'm not directly involved, I'll give you an example that I just had. Not very long ago, I went to Prague, Czechoslovakia, to celebrate the anniversary of the decision to expand NATO and include the Czech Republic and Hungary and Poland.

I think Bill's points and Joe's points are important.

I'm sorry. Just on that point, President Obama, were you surprised, during those five years of the last administration, how quickly that protection and passion for democracy was diluted, how primed the country was to just sort of dissolve and get lazy with it and let it go?

You know, I will say, and Bill saw this begin to happen during his presidency and then accelerated during my presidency, I have been surprised that there haven't been guardrails inside the Republican Party. Trump didn't surprise me. I mean, I'd like—.

It was a natural conclusion.

No, I mean, you watch Trump's campaign, you watch his career.

He's never changed.

If you know anybody who's— He's a huckster. I mean, he comes from New York. There's nobody in New York who does business with him. No. Or lend him money.

Were you surprised that there were 60-some million people that bought it and voted for him and then did it again?

Well, you know, I think that we can't discount the fact that the world's changing quick. And when the world changes quick, people get scared and they get confused. And we had a historic recession in 2008-2009 where the financial system almost collapses. We end up having—we'd obviously already gone through 9-11.. You got globalization.

Look, again, I love this country. I am so—.

You better.

I'm Canadian. It is the best country in the world.

Well, you've only been to two countries, but it's—.

He watches CNN International, though. It's true.

I've been to Canada. No, I agree with that. And, by the way, it's a phenomenal country. When it's at its best, it is the best.

The rest of the world looks to us. No matter what you say, no matter how you characterize it, there's not a single country in the world that does not think we're the single most consequential country in the world. Not a single one.

Including our enemies.

Including our enemies. I mean, across the board.

Across the board. If there's a problem around the world, you know, if there's a natural disaster, if there is a crisis, nobody's calling Moscow or Beijing, expecting them to help. Right. Everybody's looking to Washington.

But beyond that, here's the deal. Look, think about it. When Trump got elected, he said he's going to go America first, America alone. Look at who he talks about, his best friends being. Kim Jong-un.

Jack Nicklaus. Hey, listen. He won two golf championships last week. The regular championship and the senior.

I told him when he won. I told him he came into the upstairs Oval, and we bumped into each other. He said something about playing golf. I said, look, I'll give you two strokes if you carry your own bag.

Hey, do you know this? President Biden, do you know that Kim Jong-un, he had 18 holes in one once? Yeah. We're not far off that with this guy.

I'm looking forward to your guys' merch coming out.

Do you guys have an apparatus, a mechanism whereby you can contact one another like this, without anybody connecting?

Like a bat phone?

It's called a smartphone. Do you have one of these?

But could you do that? Great. Okay.

Do you guys text each other?

Yeah. I mean, like emojis.

I don't text much, but we pick up the phone and talk to each other.

I love that. That's so cool.

With no one else listening and no one else connecting the call.

We can't be sure of that.

We're not positive of the cyber side.

But does President Obama, like? he picks up and he goes, hang on, I'm going to add President Clinton.

Merge calls?

That's a little too advanced. You might need a 25-year-old aide to help on the merger thing. I love that, just, I mean,

one plus one plus one makes 10 with you guys.

I want to know, like do you all miss something specific about the holding office? Obviously, except for you, because you're in office. But do you guys miss something?

I miss not having an office. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go ahead.

Look, everybody talks about Air Force One, Marine One.

Yeah, yeah.

Paul McCartney.

Everybody will show up.

They'll show up. And they've got, they do these rehearsals the night before a lot of times, and you can kind of sneak down and you could just sit there and watch, you know, Mick Jagger practicing with B.B. King or something on a blues night. I do miss that.

That's so good.

I miss the fact they don't play a song when you walk in a room anymore. Sure.

Oh, we should have done that today.

I was lost for three weeks in front of that office. But let me tell you something serious. This is one reason that I so badly want President Biden to be reelected. What I really miss is the job. Not doing it.

Yeah.

But what I learned was on the worst day, when nothing was going right, problems were everywhere, there was still something you could do that would make somebody's life better. I love that. There is no job like that on Earth. I love that. And I want somebody Who appreciates that.

Himself.

Yeah. Who I can get, even with. Who I can send away. Who I can manage.

His judgment is.

Joe Biden will make the best of the bad days.

And the team that you have assembled, and your comfort with deferment,

And also not to think that you're the smartest guy. Right. That you're going to have every... We've had leaders like that in the middle part of the last century, who were put into government by presidents of old. And they made a lot of decisions that they thought that they were right about.

Like Ron Klain, bringing us out of COVID. It's just... And, on and on and on. The way in which that you surround yourself with the absolute best this country has to offer.

I made a commitment. I have an administration that looked like America.

Yeah.

I have more women in my cabinet. I have more... I've appointed more black circuit court judges than every other president combined in American history. I've kept my commitment about putting a black woman on the Supreme Court. I've had an opportunity to go out and get the best people.

Whereas the other guy is only hiring people that won't talk back. You know?

And that's like.

Yeah, love it.

What are those things that you look back on? Because the other guy has, as we know, no capacity for this. And President Obama, I'll start with you. What are the things that you think about that? keep you...

Handing off the baton in 2016.

It was a big deal.

tens of millions of people.

Yeah, really big deal.

We got tens of millions of people.

You can say the real quote.

on this show, yeah. It was a big fucking deal.

We got tens of millions of people health insurance,

Thank you.

I'll take credit for that. And so, what you get are these incremental steps. To answer your question, Will, you're never satisfied when you leave, because there's always going to be a bunch of stuff, that's undone. But I couldn't have done the Affordable Care Act if Bill hadn't made the efforts he did around the children's health insurance program. And Joe then builds on us.

And now, back to the show.

So, then, what are the issues coming up that people are focusing on that you believe are the wrong things, or they may be the right things, and what should they be focusing on?

I think they should be focusing on a couple things. Number one, we're going to, in the second term, God willing, we're going to make sure that we do something about gun violence in this country.

Yes.

The idea that we allow assault weapons to be sold in magazines with 100 rounds, it's just bizarre.

Yeah. Well, President Biden, I'm so glad to hear you say that, because that was going to be my other question, which is, the Democrats never said we want to take your guns away.

Absolutely not.

You never said that.

You said,

we've got to be smart.

about what's going on.

You just don't need to kill a deer with an AR-15.

The Second Amendment, which I, when I taught law school, the Second Amendment wasn't absolute ever. You weren't able to have a cannon when you were, you know. Right.

Well, it kind of brings us back to- President,

we have a question that he already knows about, but if you want to read it to him, it's a listener call-in question.

Uh-oh.

Okay.

This is unusual, but I think I know where it's from.

We have a caller here. Mr. President, I'm assuming he's talking about President Biden here. You have done so much for this country in the past three short years. You've been the architect of an incredible bipartisan infrastructure deal.

We don't know if it's Theroux.

Justin, there are certain powers that are beyond the president.

And that's-.

that's well beyond my presidential power. I asked you,

President Biden, last time if you'd make me golf-sore and you never answered me.

I had to call Trump and he- he wasn't sure.

I want to know, like-.

Well, I was- I just wanted to say, we're kind of back where we started, which was the whole idea of- of the messaging and what's good for people. And we're all so hung up on, are you Democrat? Are you blue or red?

Yeah, but that's what a campaign's for. Look- That's right. The average voter.

It seems like-.

That's what you have to use them for.

It seems like they're sort of making it sort of this binary choice between social issues or pocketbook issues. And if you're going to go for the social issues, then you're going to take a hit on the pocket. If you're going to vote for pocketbook issues, you're going to lose all the social issues. It's like-.

But that's not- But here's the truth. The truth is almost all the rational positions on social issues and on those issues that are like unions, for example, they all, in fact, grow the economy. if you do the right thing. They grow the economy.

The economy grew under Bill. It grew under Joe. It grew under me. And the reason it grows is when everybody's got a stake, when everybody's making money-.

Morale.

When people are getting paid decent wages, they have decent benefits. They feel better. They go shopping. Yeah. They might even listen to this podcast.

They got to be pretty bored. They do.

But the point is that American economic history shows whenever prosperity is broadly based, you know, and all of us ran campaigns with this basic premise that if you give everybody a fair shot, everybody does better.

So this whole idea that we got to somehow make it great again is a fallacy. It's such a joke.

Well, you got to fill in.

with fear. And it leaves me with my next question. Diehard. Is it a Christmas movie?

If there- President Biden, if there was-, If you could resurrect one person from the past to come hang out in the Oval Office, you update them on the current state of things, what's their advice? Who would you bring in to give you some perspective on-?

It'd be hard choice for me between Lincoln- Yeah. Because we are such a divided nation and how he dealt with it, and possibly Roosevelt.

Wow.

You've changed it all. Well, this guy's changed it all, but he doesn't care. He doesn't care. And that's what the rest of the world looks at us, as, do you have any interest in our concern? And can you imagine us being able to avoid a European war?

Well, he doesn't believe in anything. We know that, right? There's no-.

Well, he believes in one thing. He believes in selling what he- going to benefit him personally.

Well, and I- I do think that there's one other thing. You know, you were talking about, Jason, social issues versus economic issues, and, you know, why is it that sometimes things look good, but people don't feel good all the time? Part of it is, as I said before, things are changing. Folks are nervous. But underneath all the polarization that people are getting through TikTok and, you know, social media and cable news,

Right, they don't want to go to Walmart and argue with their neighbor about whether they're.

a Democrat or not.

Or if you're in a little league, right, and you're sitting at your kid's soccer game, and you got the parent next to you, you want to talk about kids and soccer. Right. And, I do think that underneath all this demonization and anger that people make money off of, and that, you know, gets a lot of clicks, people do want to see some decency. Right. And common sense.

And to personal experience.

And personal experience. That's what people relate to. And that, performing, by telling people stories, reminding them who they are, what family means to them, what it means to struggle and overcome. Joe, you know, the, you know, what he had to overcome in terms of getting where he was. Bill, a master storyteller, talking about what it was like growing up, single mom, Arkansas.

That's why you let people know you understand what their concerns are. Look, I mean, think about it. Everybody's gone through some tough times. But one of the, they want, my dad used to have an expression, swear to God. He said, Joey, a job's about a lot more than a paycheck.

which increases productivity.

Yeah, let's do it.

Screw 25.

look, here's the deal.

That's what everyone else is paying.

Now who's Canadian?

No, no, but I'm just making the point that you don't have to be extreme in anything to get this done.

Don't forget that, you know, that Trump's dad once said, get that family out of 14G. Hey, listen, listen, if this comes out,

Yeah, I think it should be.

Think about it. Don't give us an answer. We'll see you at the inauguration.

$3 bill.

$3 bill.

Thank you.

Well, I've been called as queer, as a $3 bill, but anyway.

Honestly, listen, we've taken up way too much of your time. You, gentlemen, are very, very busy. We thank you.

Really, really cool. Thank you.

It's just moving to be.

part of the three of you.

Thank you so, so much.

Really important. Appreciate it. Thank you, guys. Had a great time.

Thank you. Have fun tonight. All right, guys.

Wow.

Oh, boy. That was cool.

That was.

That happened right there. I'm very proud of us for keeping it together, keeping it classy.

How are you feeling? How are you guys feeling about it? That's crazy, right?

Yeah.

I feel very.

How about the secret service? People on the way in and on the way out. Incredible. You know,

Sean was disappointed because he had heard.

That's right. I bought peanuts. I got like...

And he said he wanted to see bears riding bicycles. He wanted to see...

I'm like, I could see that at home for free. Hell.

They're very good at disarming.