2023-10-21 02:48:07
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Now, you want to play us a little bet?
What? What's going on?
Well, I was just talking to Brennan. He seems to be kind of froggy and maybe... I mean, who do you... I mean, do you want me to tell you who I got? Sure.
So, I'm going to Osman. I believe in MMA math.
What's your MMA math?
Well, he beat Kilbert Burns. Kilbert Burns gave Kamzat the what for, and I'm going with it. I don't care what anybody says. So, I'm going to Osman. He's championship material.
I don't think Kamzat's been tested yet. This is going to be a big test. I said it. So, I'm going to Osman. You want to take some of that action?
Yeah.
Shah, what are your thoughts?
I like making things interesting. I love Kamaro, but it's a little bit end of the road. I don't think he's washed up. I think that's unfair to say to... You know, with Leon Edwards, just because he lost to Leon twice.
Leon's a bad motherfucker, you know?
Without a doubt.
So, you can't say he's washed up, but... Kamzat, I've been on his hairy Dagestanian nuts for quite some time.
Chechnyan.
Chechnyan. Same area. They're both hairy.
Please be respectful of geography.
Both hairy as shit. So, I think Kamzat's like the next thing. Sure. Like, the guy. He's that talented.
Yep. Do you think 85 is the move for him? Do you think 70 is just too much?
Too much of a cut.
I wonder, with him, with the really big guys. You know, there's such a giant difference between the big 70s and the big 85s. World of difference. They look like four different weight classes.
Paolo Costa. Yeah. He's a big boy. Marvin Vittori.
Jared Cannoneer.
I really wanted to see those.
They're giant. Du Plessis, giant. Yeah. He's so big, I can never believe he's 185.. Whenever I'm interviewing him after the fight, he's a Hulk.
Yeah. He's so big.
Think about Hamzat. If he wins this fight, Dana said, whoever wins this gets the next title shot. Hamzat's path to the 85 titles, it's not that impressive. That's how talented he is. You look at his wins.
He's also very, very popular. We really haven't seen him against a Cannoneer or a Strickland or any top dogs in the 85 division.
That's what I'm saying.
So, he's skipping that.
You're talking about Hamzat.
Hamzat. So, he's skipping that. He's skipping the line and going straight to the champion.
I think his first fight in the UFC was 85.. Yeah, he's fought Gerald Mayer before. Yes. He was 85..
He has some wins. All I'm saying is not the guy you're talking about. That's a different level.
Different animal. Different size. Like Pejeta. Pejeta was the 85-pound champ. He's so big.
Massive. Did you see him at 205??
Still massive.
When they show him, you're like, how'd this guy get to 85??
Willpower.
What do you think about Strickland versus Hamzat?
Very interesting fight. Very interesting fight. On the feet, dude. I rewatched that Strickland out of Sonya fight. That motherfucker is so underrated.
And everybody was thinking, me included, that out of Sonya was going to have such a massive advantage in striking. But what you saw was skill. The checking of that low kick was so important. Never got his movement compromised. This fucking Philly shell that he uses, he's the best at it in the sport.
How about his defense? The guy barely gets hit. His defense is nuts.
He made it a boxing match. He's close distance.
Also, he's so crazy and outrageous that people dismiss him as not being good. Correct. You know, his fucking talent levels are very high.
Someone posted a video of him sparring with a professional boxer.
Bro.
I mean, he gives this guy the business. The guy can't hit him either.
What's Strickland's takedown defense?
It's pretty fucking good, man. It's pretty fucking good. In his ground game, Jaco just had him down at his gym at Victory in San Diego. He said, dude, that guy is legit. He goes, he's got a legit ground game.
He's been training with Jason Manley for a hot second. Manley was like, his ground's good, man. He just doesn't use it. He doesn't want it.
Like standing. And the fucking endurance. You know, there really is something to be said for a guy who just spars. You know, when you think about it, that's what you're really doing in a fight. And this fucking guy in the fifth round of the Sada Tanya fight isn't even breathing heavy.
Also, he's allowed to do that because he doesn't engage in the grappling, which wears you out the most. So we'll see what happens with a guy like Hamzat, who's not just going to stand there.
Right, right. All the big wrestling guys.
Stylistically, again, even Nicol. Even Izzy, Stylistically, we thought was a nightmare for Strickland. Going into Hamzat, you're like, man, Stylistically is a nightmare for Strickland. But I don't. Strickland's that fucking good.
He's a huge dog already. If Hamzat wins, he's already a huge dog.
You think Strickland's a huge dog?
Really? Yeah, he is. Wow. Yeah, they have the odds out. That's not from my side.
Is that because of Hamzat's wrestling and stuff? That's what they think.
Hamzat, the UFC, if they say this is the guy, you should probably listen. There's a reason why he's so popular. And he hasn't fought the top ten yet.
I just see Hamzat against Israel, right?
That would be a great fight. But I don't think Israel wants a fight. He said a long time.
And that's the move.
Yeah. I think he needs to deal with some injuries. He's going to get some stem cells.
Ten title fights out of his last 11.. All main events. You're talking about in three years, to be that active.
The most active champion in the sport.
People don't realize, especially at the level he's at, you forget how good Izzy is. He lapped the competition already. Yeah. He lapped them, so he's doing rematches, torching those people. They have to take Alex Piera and fast-track him to the title shot to get him up for the fight, to get him excited.
That's how good fucking Izzy is. Yeah. So I think him leaving, it's going to make us realize how special he was. I think it's the perfect move for him.
Well, I think you've got to get burned out. There's no way. Physically, mentally, everything fighting that.
Joe, you know this. When you're the main event, when you're the top dog, when you have the belt, you have a different obligation as far as selling the pay-per-views.
Oh, media obligations.
You've got hundreds of interviews.
Yeah, crazy.
And if you ever saw when Khabib and Islam, Islam was just starting to pop off, Islam's doing all these interviews. It's a famous video. Islam's doing all these interviews. He's like, oh, again? And Khabib looks at him and goes, oh, all you've got to do is lose.
Just lose. All this goes away. If you don't like it, just lose. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's real easy.
Just lose and you don't have to do this anymore.
Yeah.
Heavy lies the crown, man.
They throw as much shit against the wall as possible.
Hey, but that's why the UFC is the biggest. It's the best.
You would know better than anybody, does Usman Kamara have a lot of trouble getting down to 70?? A lot? He's a big 70..
He's big. Yeah. Yeah. He needs time. Kamara's not going to do a 10-day notice for 70..
He's probably walking around 190 plus. He's shredded. Yeah. Doesn't get out of shape.
So at 85, it's going to be interesting to see what his, like. he hasn't had as much time to prepare, but it's a three-round fight, right?
It's a three-round fight. Most likely, he's already in shape. Kamara does not strike me as the type of guy who ever gets out of shape.
So that's why I'm interested to see how he fights. And they both made 170, so they're both 170 guys that are 185.. Yeah. It wasn't like-.
Right. It's not like duplicity. Yeah, exactly.
But I'm just saying-.
You've got to worry about Kamara's knees.
Yes, but-.
Because he'll be forced to strike.
Not his endurance, but he can strike. At 85, too, he's going to be- I feel like he's going to be- That's how I feel about-.
That's the problem. they'll be. That's why I'm betting you. I'm going to take your money. I love Kamara, but when-.
You want to bet on that?
Yeah, we'll bet on it.
How much are you guys going to bet? First of all, I need to know how much you owe him already.
I think we're even now.
I don't want to keep tracking anymore.
No, no, I think we are.
Because we've gotten better about paying until you just cash out.
Whenever you hear-.
I mean,
when I hear Brian talking like that, I'm like, oh, a lot of nonsense is coming.
off this truck. My voice gets higher.
My voice gets higher.
I'm out of my voice.
No, but I think-.
This truck's about to dump some more shit.
Hey, don't be giving out my secrets, bro.
But with Kamara, you've got to be careful, labeling him a high-level striker. Kamara? He's got some good guys, but he's going to be forced to strike with Hamzat. He's not taking him down. Well, he- His knees are bad, so he can't kick.
If I may, sir. Go ahead. He outstruck a guy named, who is the guy?
Jorge Mazda?
Yeah, that's right. Who's a great striker. High-level striker. Wouldn't you say?
But it's also mixing it up with wrestling. Correct. He has a wrestling advantage. True. He's going to have more takedowns.
He did KO him, though.
He did KO that shit out of him.
He did. And got the best of Kobe Covington.
Let's bet on takedowns. True. Who gets more takedowns? Kosmod or Usman?
Hamzat.
Gets more takedowns than Usman?
I don't know. I think-.
Guaranteed.
You want to go $500 on that? Yeah. No, no, no.
I'll go a grand. I'll go a grand. I'm taking Usman. I was like, damn.
All I have is $500 on me.
Are we doing $1,000??
I'm trying to eat afterwards. You're doing a grand? You're taking tomorrow?
I'm taking tomorrow. Okay, now. Now, we got Islam Volk. I love Volk. I love Volk.
We all do.
Champion.
Astonishing. I thought he won the first fight.
But here's the thing. Here's the difference.
Don't take what I told you on the show already.
Islam had about 15 hours to hydrate, you know, last fight. He's had 30 hours now, I believe, because they weighed in at 9 a.m. Now it's nighttime next day. So it's about 30 hours. So, as far as, like him, being bigger, not won't gas, there's a lot going on here.
That's interesting. That's a good point.
Yeah.
That's a good point. if you have that much more time. How many more extra hours did he get?
Well, he got, I think, about 24 hours.
You're saying about a day. A day. Which is huge for him.
It's massive. So now he's back to his original weight. He's fully hydrated.
Also, to your point, B, remember now the last fight was in America. Correct. So now it's in his, you know, home territory. In his time zone, sort of. He doesn't have to deal with all that bullshit.
Yeah, give him special falafels.
Yeah. And Alex is taking on 10 days notice. Alex's biggest superpower is his cardio. Yes. On 10 days.
Even if his cardio is at a 9, that ain't good enough to hang with Makachev.
Well, remember, and also, Makachev took Alex down, how many times? I can't remember, in the fight. And I don't think he's going to take us back. You know, he, I think what's going to happen is you'll see a lot of ground and pound. It's going to be hard for Alex.
It's going to be interesting if that rehydration makes a giant issue. Because that, you just really intrigued me. I wasn't aware that it was that much extra time. Yeah. That's a big factor for a guy who cuts that much weight.
Yep. Because Islam is, when he was gassing out at the end of that fight, a big part of that is the dehydration. I guarantee you. if that guy could just weigh whatever the fuck he wanted and they fought, he wouldn't be experiencing that. Yep.
It is insane that we make these guys literally get to death's door 24 hours before a world title cage fight.
They choose it.
I don't like it. It's an advantage.
They do. They do choose it, but we shouldn't allow it. Right. I think it's sanctioned cheating. Well, now they weigh them.
And everybody does it.
You do same day wins. That's why I do. same day wins. But they do weigh them afterwards. You can't really get that crazy, dog.
You want to get crazy? There's no way you can win a 16-man tournament when you get crazy.
One championship does it the best.
I think the argument is that you would have better fights because guys would do it and they wind up being really depleted and they fight anyway because they're just tough. But the argument is, if you do it the day before, you get a better result.
They weigh them out. They weigh them in the morning of the fight now to make sure there isn't this massive disparity. But I don't know.
I never heard of anybody getting DQ'd because of that, though. No.
Never.
You know what I mean? Never. I've never heard anybody getting into all the fights off, because the next morning….
Because Paulo Costa came in at 230.. Yeah. Never.
Yeah. They never have done that.
Nor will they. No.
No. You mean you don't weigh them in the morning of the fight? You could rehydrate as much as you want.
I think they do, actually. No, they don't care.
Name one fighter.
They did that with Donald Cerrone and….
And….
What the heck?
But what I'm saying being….
They stopped the fight? Yeah.
Darren Till.
Yeah, Darren Till. What did they do? He's not from Wales. I think they weigh them in the morning of. I think that's a new thing.
No.
No. No?
No. No. You're always weighed 24 hours before, at least. But my question is, they've never taken a fighter and said, you rehydrated too much. There was a weight….
No, there was this talk about….
Ryan O'Davis had that thing with Gervonta where he couldn't weigh more than a certain amount. Correct.
Boxing would do that.
Boxing would do that. It's like a clause that Gervonta put in the contract with Ryan O'Davis.
Some weird thing that they do. But UFC, they don't care. If you make 55… Ryan Garcia. …and you blow up to…. Look at Anthony Johnson.
You make 170 and you blow up to 220.. They don't give a fuck.
The thing is, like, Gervonta is…. It's smart if you can get a guy to do that. Hell yeah. Right? It's like when Floyd got Canelo to go down to 152..
Yeah. You know, if you can get a guy to do that, it's like, take every advantage you can. If you can get a guy to agree to not rehydrate correctly, go ahead. Yeah.
How much time did Volk have? Like 11 months? 11 days or something? Wasn't he sitting on the couch…?
10 days.
…when they called him up?
10 days.
Yeah. That's not a lot. But who knows how much he's been training. He was 185 pounds, though.
Yeah. And they tried. They hit up Strickland first. Is that true?
Yeah. It was 180 plus pounds.
That's a fucking nightmare. They hit up Strickland first and he was like, nah, which I agree with. You're the champ. You're going to fly to the Middle East. Yeah.
You don't…. Also, Strickland is a big guy. Remember when he had to take that light heavyweight fight…. Yeah. …because it was short notice?
Cutting down to 85 is rough.
But kudos to UFC. 10 day notice and you feel, I think, are better fights. You fill in with these big boys.
They got backups. now. They got it in the…. They have backups.
They have backups, not these backups.
Right. They don't have these guys ready? Right.
No. You don't think they're talking to these guys?
No. No. They had a different set of backups. They have guys that will weigh in just in case something happens during weigh-ins.
They had Mattaus Gamrot as a….
Gamrot's, a bad motherfucker.
He's a beast, man. He's a beast. You got to have backups. You got to….
They do backups now, but this is a different…. They were like, we need big dogs.
Don't? they have like backups that have a fight, just in case they don't need them? They probably won't need them. We're going to get you a fight anyways. You'll fight like some mid-tier guy.
Yeah. But if one of these guys goes out, you're in. And that mid-tier guy, you're out, dog.
But all this went out the window because it's in the Middle East. They have a contract there. They can't put on the whatever, a guy you've never heard of, against Hamzat, against Volkanovski or Makachev. They have to fill… Contractually, they have to fill it with big fights. That's why you got these big dogs on today's notice.
And that's why those boys got paid.
Yeah, that makes sense. So, we were talking about Mega Medov, the guy who fought earlier today.
With one eye, the pirate.
Yeah.
It seems impossible that he would get sanctioned in the States. It won't happen.
There's no way. No way.
So, over there, they just let him.
He's just going to run the fucking Middle East. If you want to fight him, you have to come to the Middle East.
Isn't that crazy? Like, how far can you go like that?
I'm sure Brazil will let it too. I'm going to go, fuck.
Maybe.
You can't just fight here.
Maybe Singapore. It's like Hamza. They say he has all these visa issues. That's why you haven't seen him so long. So, my question is, if Hamza does fight for the title, does that mean the champ, Strickland, is going to have to come over here to defend his belt?
That gets weird, right?
That gets super dicey.
But if you want to fight the best, you got to come to the Middle East.
Isn't that crazy? Yeah, if I was Strickland, I'd be like Madison Square Garden or bust.
Yeah, me too.
And I think Strickland would do that. No one's, Strickland. He'd be like, fuck off. Vegas, or nothing, dude.
Make all the money.
Who's handling the Athletic Commission stuff over there? Is that in-house?
It's probably the same guy who's handling the drug testing now. Probably rolls at ATT.
He's got a spinning back kick knockout.
Nurma...
You guys never said Sed... Oh, Sed's a beast. A beast. Really?
Yeah, he's very good. Super beast.
You mean a Dagestani with the last name, Nurma?
But he's actually a really elite striker.
Yeah, he's a striker. His wrestling's not great.
Oh, wow.
Is Nurma Gametov like Smith in the Middle East?
It's like Silva in Brazil. It's like Silva in Brazil.
It sounds like it's a clan. Like it's a family of...
This guy's fun to watch, though.
I'm sure. What's. he fine at? 35?.
So what is going on with this drug-free sport thing?
I don't know, but I love it.
Is it drug-free sport, and is their logo a wink?
Oh, you mean they have another commission?
Yeah, they got rid of USADA, but USADA went dirty on them, man.
Oh, USADA messed up. When they went and did that statement without notifying Dana White, my first read was like, oh, USADA, fucked up. Wait, what did they do? They really fucked up.
They said they were doing it for Conor McGregor, so they could get Conor McGregor and not have to test him. That's what they insinuated.
Trying to make Dana look bad.
Which is not true, because Conor McGregor entered into the USADA pool and supplied two tests so far. So they're wrong. What they said was wrong. He's not on anything. He's clean.
They tested him.
I don't know. What did USADA say? What did they say?
They said that the reason why the UFC is leaving this relationship with USADA was because they were trying to do something with Conor McGregor.
Like buy down a Conor, and then they said it was a money issue, which we know it's not.
His lawyer said he's the most tested fighter of all time in the UFC, as far as Conor McGregor is concerned. Really?
I don't think that's true.
I don't know. Especially now.
He's had some time off.
Paolo Costa was the most tested.
Yeah.
Paolo, I know Yeri's tested a ton.
All the dudes that look juicy, they go, hmm. Yeah.
But can we agree? USADA's good for certain sports. When it comes to the UFC, it's been a disaster.
They're a bore.
It's been a disaster.
The problem was they were waking guys up at 6.30 in the morning on their fucking weigh-in day. They were doing crazy shit like that, trying to get samples day of the fight.
And you've got to report 365 days a year, and you're a subcontractor? It doesn't make a lot of sense. It doesn't fit the business model of the UFC. All good. So now they have this guy from ATT who rolls with the boys, maybe a little acai himself.
And he's like, yeah, he's good.
And I'm like, I like that guy. Yeah, but there's a conflict of interest, potentially, if an ATT fighter...
2022, Yeri Prohasko is tested 64 times.
Wow. So he's the most?
That was just last year. I mean, I don't know about all time.
I wonder why they tested him so much.
That's fucking harassment.
Paolo Costa was 24..
Well, he fights like he's on meth. Dude, Yeri's got such a wild style.
Dude, Yeri versus Alex Pera?
Alex Pera, that's going to be amazing. Take my money! Take my money. That is so exciting.
That's my number one fight of the year.
That fight's so exciting. That's Madison Square Garden.
John Jones steepies.
All right, here we go. First fight. See, Ed? Right now, the clock says round one, 455, 454, 453, 452, 451, 450, 449..
All right. Is that Apache here?
That guy, yeah.
He needs manscaped. This guy is brought to you by manscaped. His back.
You don't like that patch?
No, dude.
I like it because it's asymmetrical.
I know. It's like Austin Powers shit going on.
Do you think he gives a flying fuck, B?
Well, I do. I'm voting against him.
There's the first Indian guy on the card tonight. Is this him?
Indian, like Apache Indian?
No, like Dot Indian.
Like the country. The real Indian.
Yeah, India.
Please don't say Dot.
I like the fake Indian.
Well, he said Feather.
Okay, but women.
Isn't it funny that a Dot could be seen as racist?
Only if you're Brian Callen, you're a cuck.
Well, you live in L.A. and you still talk to actors.
Isn't it crazy that Columbus fucked up and called the natives Indians and they just ran with it? They never corrected it. They go, yo, yo, we're not in India, dog. We're in fucking Virginia.
Oh, he's from Tajikistan.
Tajikistan. A lot of stans.
That sounds like it.
Oh, there he goes. There he goes. Oh, he got him in the power of 18..
Oh, he tapped. He tapped. That's it.
Oh, savage, dude.
That was not good.
Sayid Nurmagomedov. I didn't even see the transition because I was too busy correcting Callen.
That guy's too excited over there. This guy. Why is he doing that?
That's his guy, man.
He's probably a celebrity.
He was pointing to his heart.
Well, they all want Nurmagomedov to win.
Brian, did you really ask? why is he celebrating?
Well, he was acting like he had something to do with it.
Well, don't be mad.
Damn, you made a mistake, dude.
This guy's very upset.
All that training.
You looked up when you should have looked down. Ah.
He also fought a monster.
Look at how it goes here. So he's charging forward. Oh, he dives his head right in there.
Right in the middle. And then he's like, cool, say less.
And he powered guillotine.
I'm such a fan of him. If you watch his fights, he'll lose the first and second and pull it out in the third. Damn. He's such a savage.
That was just this. That's pretty sweet. Yeah, sick.
What mistake did he make there?
He didn't have his shot. As soon as you have one arm around your neck, you gotta address it. You have one arm around your neck. If you don't address it, you keep trying it. The other one comes in, it's over.
Two arms around your neck, it's over.
So there's one, you better address that. That's rule number one in jiu-jitsu.
He's also a jiu-jitsu master.
Address it. Know what you're doing.
But when you're double-legging like that, should his head have been higher in his chest like that?
Or if they grab the guillotine, you gotta pass.
As soon as he shoots, he shoots, he gets his neck wrapped. Instead of continuing the takedown, you gotta grab that motherfucking arm.
Or you can take him down and you gotta make sure you're on the correct side.
You can't stay there.
We haven't seen one of those Von Flues in a long time.
He's got all of them.
Never trust your neck. All my neck will be fine.
Famous statement.
That's John Giacomo Ciano. Never trust your neck.
The minute. this is there, you can't let the other piece go.
Your boy, Tino. I was rolling with Tino. He was catching me and Darcy's from every angle.
You're getting tapped out? That's crazy.
In Vegas, Tino. Pitbull.
Tino.
This got awkward.
I just screwed his name up.
Did you fuck his name up?
I probably fucked his name up. Tino? Why don't you look through your phone and we'll talk about other stuff. Find out who the fuck you're talking about.
When you say rolled with him, you were in jeans and just grabbed him?
You're talking about Andy Varela?
No.
He has a Pitbull rescue. He's a comic. Stand-up comic. He's our buddy.
Oh! Okay, I know who you're talking about.
Tino. Yeah, Tino.
I barely remember my own students.
Tino's, a black belt. Tino was catching me and Darcy's. I was like, where is this coming from?
You don't even train, so why is that surprising?
And he's a black belt?
The point I'm making is don't trust your neck.
You should make that a t-shirt.
Bad story?
Was that a bad story?
When I say the podcast is coming to a screeching halt, I mean you've ruined Saturday.
You just want to let everybody know you've been rolling.
But you know what, guys? If you want a great Friday, Saturday, next weekend, I'll be at the shop.
That's a bad transition, buddy.
I'll be at the Chicago Improv.
You do that when you say something funny. Yes. Not when you bomb.
Bad, bad promotion.
You hit the cow on the train tracks.
Bad promotion. Good old Brian with his bad promotion.
What happened when the Scottish guy trained with Tina? Did he get choked out too?
He rocked him.
Uh-oh.
He gets Seagal's over there.
He becomes more and more Asian every day.
Funkmaster.
Al Joe.
He's in an interesting spot now, right?
Yeah, he is.
He's got a lot of people in front of him now. He tried to push for that rematch when the UFC was like, no, player.
He was a little difficult with the UFC. Again, I don't know what's going on there. But when you do that, it's a Woodley angle where they go, as soon as you lose, buddy, good luck. It's awesome. You're going back to the queue.
You got KO'd in the second round. It's like a decisive loss. You know, it wasn't like a close fight. Like, you know, Usman, and, you know, that fight was close.
With Usman and Leon, it was like, he's winning four rounds.
Leon launched that last kick. a minute to go in the fight, changed the course of his life.
That's a rematch.
That's a rematch. But when you get KO'd in the second round and you didn't do anything in the first round, you couldn't take him down, and then Sean does exactly what he said he was going to do. It's a tough sell. You got to see other fights.
But then remember that division, too. There's so many guys there, too.
So many guys.
And then the other issue with him is Marab, his teammate, is like, we won't fight each other. So UFC's like, then. we're not dealing with this, dude. Marab, you fight Cejudo. Sterling, we'll see what happens.
Also, you know, Algerman has been talking forever about going up to 45..
I think he'd be a good fit for him. I think he'd do well there.
I love Algerman. He's so much bigger. Well, he has a hard time getting to 35.. He's a big guy.
He's jacked. He's built like a stingray, dude.
He's so jacked when he gets down.
What's a stingray? Just all shoulders, skinny legs.
When he's down at 35, he's like the perfect body size. He's the perfect amount of weight. Because he's not 135 pounds, but he's shredded, and he can go five hard rounds. Body for days. He's got it locked in.
But goddamn O'Malley is a sniper. Fucking sniper.
He just rises to the occasion.
Well, he's just better. Better than he ever has been before. He just keeps getting better. That dude just keeps getting better.
But he's also, what I love too, it's the perfect game, kind of blueprint for the UFC, right? He was on Dana White's Contender Series. UFC's notoriously been known for years. It happens. I get it.
I'm not blaming them. They push guys too fast. Sage Northcutt, Darren Till. With Sugar, they're like, slow down. We'll get there.
Because he wanted a title shot right away. Like, slow down. Built him up, built him up. Now he's this, might be, as far as social media and Twitch, the biggest star they have. Now he's champ.
Sage Northcutt.
Yes.
Very good example. Because he goes over and fights that dude. What's his name from Brazil? And gets KO'd. Gets his face broken.
In one championship? Yeah.
I used to spar him. Cosmo.
Yeah. Cosmo Alexander.
When I saw that, I literally DMed him. I was like, I'm telling you, buddy. Do not do this.
Cosmo's a bigger guy. Cosmo's big. He's an elite world champion, kickboxer. Muay Thai fighter. Bro.
Very good striker. God.
Did you watch K-1?. The last absolute eight-man tournament?
I did it. Who won?
I'm disappointed in you. I know. You watch everything.
I know. Watch everything.
And the only fucking kickboxing event that I've ever commentated, you didn't watch it.
Oh, you're talking about a hot second ago.
K-1..
Oh, yeah.
The big ass Chinese guy.
Fuck, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The big ass Chinese guy. I thought you were talking about last week.
No, no. What's the Chinese name? The big one. I don't even know his name. Lu Sai.
I'm the worst with names. Gigantic. Huge. Savage.
Looking like fucking Drago from China.
Yeah. He's like six.
Artificially crazy.
Six, what? Six nine or something? Six eight.
Six eight.
He fucked everybody up with leg kicks.
Oh, leg kicks. Oh, man. His kicks are outstanding. I wonder what's going to happen with him. He's good.
Big, heavyweight.
Huge CCP. all about China. Gigantic six foot eight Chinese guy. Like, what was that basketball player's name?
Yao Ming.
Yao Ming. Yeah. Exactly like him. That motherfucker right there.
Elite kickboxer.
For days.
Lu, Lu, Lu, Lu Sai.
Jesus.
Dude, that guy fucked everybody up. Yeah.
They have that boxer, too. He's a fucking giant that Alex Pierre sparred with.
Yeah.
He's fucking huge.
You should see this guy fight, man. He's very impressive.
He's a freak.
He's very impressive.
What's he weigh? Heavyweight, obviously.
Six, eight, 260.. He could play defensive end.
Yeah, no Chinese in the NFL, huh? I don't think so.
You googling how to say it?
One day, one day.
Oh.
I saw six eleven somewhere, but this says six, five.
All right. That's pretty tall.
220..
Long and lean.
That's the new Ernesto Hoost.
Ernesto Hoost.
I wasn't aware of this. I don't follow K-1, but K-1 was just sticking with the middleweights and the lightweights for a few years, and they didn't do the heavyweights anymore because there wasn't a big talent pool. And now they're trying to promote it again.
Dude, how about Fury and Francis? That's next Saturday?
I know. Isn't that nuts?
Nuts. The promo for it?
It's great.
Dang, it's good.
Yeah. Is it Tyson Fury? Yes.
Tyson Fury and Francis Ngannou in a boxing match.
You just finding out about this?
I know.
Is this real? Dude. Are you playing this?
Dude, I'm telling you.
Are you on an edible?
I know. NFL. I knew Francis Ngannou was promoting a fight. I knew that was happening. I just don't know who.
I don't pay attention. like you guys. I barely pay attention.
But Tyson, Fury and Francis is so massive.
How do you not pay attention to that?
I know he was going to fight. I just didn't know who.
Is he fighting John Jones? He's fighting Usyk in December or January.
That's what I'm excited about.
This is a great promo.
Yeah. Best promo I've seen in a hot second. So well done.
And it's going to be a boxing match. Yeah.
Just boxing. For a title.
Come on. You've got to put all your money on who? Come on.
Well, yeah. Fury.
Fury moves.
I mean, he's not just a big white boy. That guy has great boxing skills.
Oh, he's the most skillful heavyweight boxer.
I think he's the best. I think he's the best of all time.
He could be the best of all time. He's the biggest. He's 6'9". He moves like a fucking middleweight. He's got outstanding power.
Who hits harder, Francis or Bronx Bomber?
That's a good question. We don't know. We don't know because Bronx Bomber's never hit anybody with them little gloves. And, you know, Francis has never hit anybody in a big fight with the big gloves.
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