the fashion olympics, a talk with jared ellner [video]

So let me set the scene for you right now. Well, not for me. No, no, you're here. Yeah, okay, so we're two days out from the Met Gala.

Speak for yourself, No, you're my best friend, really, yes.

Well, you can't, I mean, now you have to say that.

Who else is my best friend?

Okay, true. yeah. How are you feeling?

I feel good, I'm feeling great on this couch, loving this hotel room.

It is a great hotel room.

Generally I feel good, I feel like it's a crazy weekend leading up to it, but I feel calm this year.

You feel okay? That's what I was gonna ask like, Do you feel calm this year?

I feel calm this year because I feel like we're quite locked in. Like normally. Maybe we're jumping into this too quick. But normally every other year we're doing like first fittings this weekend, like first fittings happen sometimes the weekend of. And we have had much more time this year, so I feel good. How do you feel?

I mean, I feel so good. It's true that we have had this super extended Met experience this year. Because literally right after the Met last year, you're like, Okay, so I'm thinking about Met next year. I'm like, Jared, what if they don't even invite me and you're like, it's okay? We'll have a dress, I'll give it to someone else.

It doesn't matter.

But we did our first fitting, like fucking two months ago, like we are so prepared. I mean, I've been hearing stories about people doing their first fitting tomorrow Sunday before the Met, so we're just chill.

But that's normal lots of people do that. We're being like, kind of weird about this, I think.-.

We take it really seriously, we take it too seriously. Definitely, it's cringe and weird.

It's embarrassing, for sure, and we can't tell anyone about it.

No, but you also have four other people that you're styling at the same time.

This year, there are multiple people, which is different too. Usually I've had you or one other person. Yeah, but now there's some more people, so we just have to get everybody ready to go.

How are you managing that?

I'm managing it well. I mean, everybody is like, they're all lovely people. I'm like, no one's a diva, no one's difficult, good.

It's so weird to talk about the Met now and then have this episode come out. It's like a time capsule. This episode is going to come out after the Met.

It is nice to be able to talk openly about it because even like who you're wearing and what it's like.

Because it's been so sneak, it's so sneaky.

What year is this for you and me? Four? Yeah, four feels like a good number.

We have had chaotic years. What's been like the most chaotic I'm trying to remember?

The most chaotic?

Maybe the first one.

First one, I would say it was chaotic just because neither of us knew what was going on.

Year one was really stressful because it was just all so new, but it was also exciting and, weirdly, less intimidating because we didn't know-.

How big it was, yeah.

It's almost like, you know, it's a big deal and fashion and whatever. But until you go and do it, you don't realize why. Everyone, for sure, takes it so seriously. I think it's just because it's so visible.

Yeah, extreme. Well, also, you're having to do so much more mental work than anybody else going because you have to look amazing. Like, I think that was your first red carpet, honestly.

Well, I never did a red carpet without you.

You, your first red carpet was the Met Gala, then?

That is so-.

How did I?

Well, it was also like I didn't know how to pose.

Yeah.

I didn't know what I was doing.

It worked, though.

I think it worked, it was totally fine. I mean, there were definitely some awkward poses happening.

I actually don't think you had any awkward poses.

Now we like practice, though.

Yeah, but you did very well. And that was kind of an awkward dress. It had like this like side tail situation.

Yeah, it was hard to manage.

You did great.

But in theory, it was a simple look, like the first year. It was like just my natural hair blown out, pretty simple makeup, a dress that, honestly, it doesn't have this long train.

That was complicated.

And that's stressful because you're not there to manage the look a lot of times. These red carpet looks, they don't look right unless they're-.

Placed perfectly.

Placed perfectly, which is so interesting.

This whole thing is smoke and mirrors.

So, like, there's people who are helping to straighten out the dress and stuff there. But, like, you can't be there to make sure everything still looks as it's supposed to. Like, do you have a meltdown about that on the day of? Are you like refreshing, getting images, freaking out, of course.

I'm literally like waiting for something to go wrong, but it hasn't gone wrong. For I don't think there's been like, I've never had something where I'm like, Oh my god, her top fell off.

You know what I mean? Yeah, it's not like, Oh my god, nipple out kind of shake.

That would be cool, maybe that could happen this year. Well, how are you feeling?

I'm feeling so chill. Well, actually, no, let me elaborate. There are a few things I worry about every year number one how am I gonna up my game with the interviews like?

There's nothing you can really do.

No, and there's not a lot of planning you can really do and also-.

You also don't have much time, you have to ask people what they're wearing, how they're feeling, and then they leave.

And then they leave and it's like, I try to get something else in there too, if I can.

What's your favorite movie?

Yeah, literally, well, see, that's what I'm thinking. It's like, how can I make it feel fresh? or like, bring some new questions to it? But it's also like, I cannot overthink it.

How was it? It was great. Do you want to explain what that is?

Oh yeah, the table read is basically, now you're interviewing me, I love it. It's basically where I go to the Vogue office and they tell me everyone who's going. And what they want to talk about in their lives or careers, what they don't want to talk about in their lives or careers. So that everybody feels comfortable and safe and loved.

Do you have someone? is someone whispering these things to you again on the carpet?

Yeah, they have like a full binder with all that, so that's stressful. Also, what really stresses me out is like, I want the day of like you want.

Yeah, of course.

And so it's this stress of like, is my skin going to be good that day? like, am I going to pose well that day? Like, there's all of these things like, is my face going to look washed out? or like whatever? or am I like? Am I retaining water?

It's just all these fears.

No, thank God.

I feel like a lot of people are.

Really, what do you think is like the worst thing that could happen on-?

On Med Day.

Yeah, like, I don't think period is the worst.

Well, like, worst thing is like.-.

I was on my period one year when I wore the white skirt, I think.

Yeah, I remember that.

Fully on my fucking period, no stark white skirt.

There actually has never been a whiter skirt. you've never worn a whiter skirt.

I don't know how I didn't bleed.

I don't either. You were so clenched.

I was clenching my cooter. Y'all have never seen anything like it. What is the worst thing that could happen on Med Day?

I mean, you get so sick, you can't go, that's I would be so sad.

Yeah, but is there such a thing as being too sick? I would go anyway.

Imagine you're like food poisoning.

I would go anyway, I'm actually not kidding, I'm fully serious.

Wait, this is a good game. What if you got hit by a car and had memory loss and had to do the interviews?

That's so dark.

You knew it was the Met.

But I don't remember.

But you don't remember who these people are, why you're there, anything but you know you're gonna look amazing.

Oh, if I know I'm gonna look amazing, I'm still going.

The dress is great. Oh, then I'm going, but you have to interview everybody.

Can I be honest? It'd probably be the best interview I ever do. When you're overthinking the interview, you're like, that's when it's weird.

That's true, I feel like most people don't realize that. You pretty much go in Cold Turkey.

I'm full cold Turkey, whereas for a podcast.

I don't know if Cold Turkey's the right term.

It is not, but I love the way that you said it, you had spirit and it was close enough that you felt it. So I say that we run with it.

Okay, great, so you go in cold Turkey?

Yeah, I don't plan, which is crazy, which is so crazy, I can't.

I think something I didn't know before our first year was that. It's so much more effective when you start these conversations with designers to pull references from their past runway shows, because everyone's mostly creating custom things. So the first year, I think I had all these ideas and I presented it to Louis Vuitton. Who you're going with? And none of them had anything to do with the brand. Like nothing was like from past seasons, an archive, pull anything, and it was just like for inspiration. But quite quickly, I was like, Oh, you have to like, pull from what they do best.

Totally are you kidding me?

Ever, literally ever.

It never happens.

Ever so, which is great. It's like everyone brings something to the table, which makes it like this collective fashion. Stew, stew, stew.

Ooh, that sounds yummy.

Should we have stew?

We should have Stew, we should call down and say things, Do you have Stew?

They'd be like, please leave our hotel.

Yeah, they're like, you're being moved to another hotel.

You can get stew on the street.

Yeah, you can get stew from a bodega, do not do that here.

Where were we? Oh, fashion Stew, Okay, back to Stew. So, I mean, when a designer's receptive, that's like, so nice, just because it's so much better. When it's a collaboration, when it's like people who are down to like vibe.

Like, really collab.

Yeah, and like, want, like talent and stylist opinion, same for hair and makeup. I think the best possible scenario is when everybody's like trusting and excited, and like, respects everyone around them, which I feel like I think we've gotten there. But we were quite young for our first two years. And it's hard to be the youngest people in the room and also be the ones who are supposed to be directing it. Because, I mean, why would they trust us? We're like, Yeah, we're literally-.

We're stinky little kids.

Like gross.

You were honestly gross. And we need to change our diaper.

That's kind of how people look at you, though.

I know.

And but I get it, I would, too. If you're, like, have been in the industry for years and you have, like a 19-year-old and a 23-year-old, like, telling you what to do, it's like, shut the fuck up.

Yeah, 1000, I mean, but I do feel like year after year, we're becoming more and more involved.

Completely.

But I would say, like the first three years, we were just kind of fish out of water in a way, it was just still such a new thing. And I feel like this is the first year where it's like, Jean-Paul Gaultier was so down. To collab with us and make something that felt like a true marriage of all of us in a new way that we've never experienced. Like, they are asking us-.

Like, what do you want?

Like, what do you think of this exact material? Like, do you want to use this type of lace? or do you want to use this type of lace or this type of lace? Like they're giving us-.

So many options.

Options, so that we're really involved in the design process, I mean, especially you like, you're helping them choose, like, very specific details. But I think where it gets challenging is. The Met is such a public event that everybody wants their art in one way or another to show through. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, that's why I think there's such a conflict of interest.

Not every part of every person involved can shine, but that doesn't mean it's not gonna be a great representation of everybody.

Yes, yeah, like I think we both like to, we like to play around and be involved, like we're really hands-on.

Can they just fucking stop? no people? can they get out?

Like, we never can work with them again. They love. Why do they like fashion this much?

People hate us.

People hate us, but I'm ultimately gonna be snatched.

And then they love.

And then they love me again. Let's talk about creating this year's look. As I said earlier, we started doing fittings for it and having meetings for it. What two months ago?

It was during Paris Fashion Week, which was February.

Yeah.

Is that right? I think, so, yeah, a while ago.

Explain the whole process.

The whole process? Well, first, we put together a list of people that we wanted. Yep, and Vogue has a say in, like, Who you're wearing, and it ended up being Gaultier. And when we were in Paris for Paris Fashion Week, we decided to have a meeting at their headquarters, which is gorgeous.

It's the best meeting ever because it's the most beautiful building in Paris, it's insane and there's like the most amazing view. And they have the whole atelier in there and so you can just go see them making.

All these beautiful, like hand sewing, all these crazy things. It was the coolest thing I've ever experienced.

Yeah, and I mean, you had scoured Vogue Runway or whatever and, like, found so many good references. That made sense for the theme. Because that's the other thing is that it can be hard to be on theme because again, there are-.

I think it's very hard to be on theme.

It is very hard to be on theme, I think, well, it depends on the theme especially, but I think in general it is hard to be on theme. Because, again, everybody has their own vision.

Totally yeah.

So you have to find something that's on theme, but also in the brand's DNA that you're wearing. So, like, you found all these references, that could be torn off the runway and just warranted the event because it matches the theme enough. You know what I'm saying? So that was really smart on your end, finding those references beforehand, bringing them to them and saying, this is the fucking vibe you guys. But also, let's make it new.

Well, yeah, we showed up, we had this meeting. They showed us their gorgeous offices with like, some of the best fashion I've ever seen. And then we, like, laid out all of our ideas. And they had someone sitting next to us, like sketching as we were talking, also like, the coolest thing that's ever happened.

Not even you're, like, the coolest fashion nerd ever. You need, like, a little pair of black glasses with a little tape around the center and then like, but it's like, ultimately like, Chanel.

Wait, that's so cute, you know what I mean? Can we do that?

Like nerdy fashion, nerd glasses.

I love that.

I feel like a brand needs to come out with those. It's like, a-.

By the way, someone will No, that would be really cute.

You know, yeah, right.

That's actually adorable.

That's like Balenciaga code. I was gonna say same thing. They love being silly like that.

Yeah, I'll tell them.

Okay, tell them.

I will, okay.

They actually measure every single inch of my fucking body.

They're like bottom of ear to top of ear to eye, just in case.

Just in case.

For the fashion glasses, yeah. And then after that we had a couple Zooms where they put together, like, some options, some sketches.

Everything was great, like we had a few things to change. Like, I think, you know, I have two looks because I have my main like look for the carpet, and then I have a slightly less dramatic version. For the interviews. And so, you know, we had to try on two separate dresses.

The carpet dress had more to do.

Well, it was unfinished.

Yeah, the interview dress was closer to being done, so that look was pretty solid.

It was like, done, but also even like even the actual dress dress was. Even though it's not close to being done, it's close enough and it like everything fit really nicely.

If you're if you have a strapless corset, it can squeeze you at the top and make it.

It can go up too high and then be very unflattering, and I was very nervous about that. When we went into this look, doing a corset, I was like, Oh God, like, I'm gonna definitely have a lot of notes about, you know, let's get rid of this armpit vagina.

It's a little bit see-through, like the thinnest matching, like, are you? Well, I was gonna suggest somewhat of a thong, but maybe just.

I would wear a thong.

Oh, cool, like a thin one, like a little seamless.

Super thin thong.

Barely there.

Okay, that's fine, I hate thong.

Maybe we can make it a little thicker than a thong.

Like a bikini.

Yeah, like a bikini. Well, that's actually big.

Well, it's huge.

That's covering the whole body.

Yeah, but then is there anything between bikini and thong?

I don't think that there is, maybe there's not.

Maybe we should create that so we have a new company.

In one day.

So we have a new company starting, we sell fashion glasses, and, in between, thongs and bikinis, that's great.

I think this is a huge market.

This is a huge market. I love this company. What should we call it?

Thong, bikini, glasses.

Can I be honest, open that up in soho thong, bikini, glasses, something called that?

That would be huge.

Genuinely, there would be a line at the door, people would be like, I don't even know what they're selling, I have to go. But the name is so chic, like it actually is, like, there's like a lore to that.

Well, I'd be so confused.

Same, but that's what people would be like, excited, like, what does it mean that I need to know?

I've never seen something like this.

I've never seen something like this. I need to know more. What is a good Met Gala? Look to you, when you see it, you're like, Oh, fuck what it like, paint that picture for me broadly.

I think it has to, like, take some type of risk for Met.

Agreed.

I think so. I think it's if you're going and not doing something out of the ordinary, it's like, this is the time to do it. So something that's different and taking some type of risk. Yeah, I just, I would love. I like it when people steer away from boring.

And they feel great, personalized to them.

Totally, and their features. What do you think is a good Matt Gellar look?

Number one, something that does feel truly organic to the person. Like, you see them in it, and it's not like they look like they're dressing up in their parents clothes when they were a kid. You know what I mean, it feels like, oh, this is them, this is not, and it doesn't even necessarily need to be.

Yeah, you know, just like they're wearing it.

It just needs to feel like them wearing it, exactly like they are shining in it. It makes sense for them it in some way ties into their personality or who they are. Whether it's in a costume way, like in a, you know, I'm dressing up as someone else, or something else way, or in a personal way, whatever. I also think definitely like beautiful tailoring.

It's everything.

It's everything, and I feel like that's overlooked for sure. Like, that's why we have to do fittings up until the very last day. Because your body changes, you could be you could have pooped more and now you need to take it in a little bit on the waist.

This is so boring.

Do something else, do something else. Why are you wearing it's a white dress? Okay, that's not Camp Jared. It can't be easy to do.

You're making me so nervous.

You know what I mean? Okay, so no, but listen, hear me out, hear me out, okay.

You're correct, you're correct.

How do you manage having this year?

Yeah, five.

Yeah, you're addressing five people for the Met. how do you manage that, like you're not doing it all alone?

No, I have an insane amazing team that it's mostly. I mean, I have a team in L.A. and most of them came out. I have a team of four. Lauren, Brooke, Maya, Emily. Shout out. We love it and literally obsessed would be dead without.

You're just like, Come on, you guys, where's my coffee? Don't do anything else, yeah, inspiring.

It's who I am, it's who you are, so I have a team and they're amazing. And they have been like, they're very used to getting people ready for red carpets because there are lots of times where red carpets are happening and multiple people are going. So everybody has somebody who's with them, even if I'm not able to be there, but I try, and one, I try and give everybody as much time and attention as humanly possible.

Whipped around.

Yeah, I gotta be whipped. It's actually a nice system because you're the first person on the carpet, which is so weird. I know you're the first one there, so you're earlier than everybody else. So the way it's gonna work this year is I have another client staying at your hotel who's starting glam around a similar time.

That is so intense.

I'm trying to do it because I want to be with everybody as much as possible, of course, but the way I plan it out is whoever I mean-.

Who needs the most TLC, tender love and care?

Well, your dress this year is a full corset from top to bottom. This is definitely the most complex one in terms of getting dressed. And you're the earliest, so I can lace you up and then go take care of the next, but I don't know. You just have to being present at all the fittings to make sure that all the prep going into it is done well is the most you can do.

Yeah, you get it done, babe.

We're trying you get it done well, we'll see.

Do you have any predictions for what other people are gonna wear this year?

This is a great theme to go off. I feel like, I mean, honestly, the best predictions I can give is there's gonna be a lot of florals and nature, but we're doing kind of the darker, grungier, like, more gritty side of nature. It's very much about death and decay, and things at the end of their life cycle. Which was a choice because the story that this theme is based off of, it ends with this enchanted garden being plucked.

And decayed.

Bare and then it's just leaves and dead things left, which was fun for us. But I feel like we're gonna get a lot of people and blushing flowers and beautiful blooming things. But I don't know. Maybe we're wrong, maybe everyone will be like, let's do decay.

Well, I was excited about the decay because it's sort of. I like that color scheme, I like that, I like the silhouettes that go hand in hand with that, I just like the overall feel of that more.

I'm super different.

I'm super different.

Very emo.

I'm really emo, goth and goth.

Can't say goth on the carpet.

I said something on an interview once.

And I got so much shit. You wore black to, you literally wore black to a red carpet, and you were like, this is super goth. And the internet was so mad.

No, but you know what? I meant? It was more like, I don't know. I'm kind of like, in a more gothic. Well, it was grungy. Yeah, I was, oh, I said, grunge. I didn't say goth.

It was like a gorgeous corset dress.

I don't remember what I said, though, so if somebody's gonna get mad at me and be like, you're lying and you're gaslighting.

Something with a g and was either goth or grunge.

I said grunge, I know that I said something about, like, being more in a grunge era of my life, I guess, and everyone was like, this is not grunge. Like you're wearing a gorgeous black gown strapless dress.

We just strike those words from our language.

Wow, I am not using them anymore. Grunge, grunge. stop saying it, I'm gonna be like, doing the interviews, being like, this is so grunge, this is so grunge.

Everyone's like, What are you wearing? Like, so grunge this year.

Oh my god, that's a one-way ticket to just, I don't know, like, not really being a fashion girl anymore.

No, it's hard to predict exactly what it'll be, but that's the fun of it.

Zendaya's a co-chair. What's Zendaya gonna wear?

Zendaya's gonna wear, I feel like she's gonna wanna wear something corseted. Oh, but I don't know, I feel like she'll wanna. Maybe this is more of a hope, but I hope she does something like romantic and like.

Kind of like Edwardian, you know, I see romantic in like silvery blues for her for this. What do you? You don't see this teal weirdly, too.

Greens, you're like, Green, green, yeah, that's what I know.

Watch us, be psychic and get this all right. I will freak out.

Can we put? can do we win then?

Yeah, what do we win you guys anyway? No, we'll just.

We'll just.

Have a shot of tequila at the after party.

Okay, are you excited for after parties?

Oh, whoa, wait for that. We're gonna get into that last because we have to name a few more celebrities and what they're gonna wear. Okay, what about Ariana Grande?

Big and pink. Because it's wicked, she's in her wicked era.

Big and pink, interesting. Okay, I could see her in, like a really sheer white thing.

Her.

Inside of her, it's inside of her. Okay, so that's what I picture.

What's Rihanna gonna wear?

Oh, Rihanna.

Interesting because last year she did a big like floral, I loved it, like Capey thing. yeah, like flowers, so.

Oh yeah, I actually don't remember what that looked like. Wow, I need to google that.

White, she's pregnant.

Iconic as well. I hope that one day I can go to a Met gala pregnant.

That would be so sick.

Oh my god.

You have to do this.

But I want to be like eight months pregnant, like about to birth. That would be like, I like, go into labor at the Met Gala vibes.

Well, that's obviously the plan, yeah, but that would be you could actually time that out well.

I know.

You could find the day.

I just have to have sex in November or no, No, no, that's great.

I am August, I'm not even gonna attempt this right now.

I think it's August.

I'm gonna trust you on that.

August, September, maybe.

I'm so tired, I don't want to count.

No, we can't do math right now anyway, so I'll know when to have sex.

And then you can have that would be amazing. Oh my god, a pregnant met gala would be gorgeous.

Oh my God, imagine I bring baby daddy of the baby to it and we put him in a matching outfit.

And then the next year, you have the baby in an outfit. Oh, my boy, you don't even get to go to the Met until you're 18. Yeah, I actually was thinking about that the other day.

So baby gets shoved at home with my mom.

Okay, fine.

Mommy, you're taking this one. But I feel like for me, like, let's say, let's put this into the calendar, like 2029 Met Gala, I'm pregnant.

That would be sick.

It's kind of not in that lot five years.

That's not that long.

I'll have a baby at like 27, why not?

Yeah, just have a kid, I would not. don't have a kid yet.

But it would look so cute at the after parties.

This is a big question, are you slash we going to after parties this year? Because it's been back and forth.

I have decided, yes, which is so fun. Listen, here's the reason why I want to go well. Originally, I booked my return flight back to L.A.

I don't know why anyone listened to you and booked that.

I know.

Someone should have stopped you.

Where were y'all? I'm like yelling at my team who was in another room. No, I don't know what I was thinking. I was like, Oh, I'm just going to be so tired.

No, I know what you were thinking, you were thinking. If I go to after parties, then I'll get straight on the plane.

Yes, that's what I was thinking.

But that's it, that was, that was probably it, because you wouldn't come home and go to sleep. No, you have an illness where I have to pull an all nighter.

Before my flight.

And it's so weird it's, and it makes no sense to me, and it's something we'll disagree on until we die.

I sleep like baba on the plane.

Yeah, but we've. There have been times where we have flights early and we have four hours and you're like, Well, we should probably just stay out. It's like, let's get a three hour nap. No, yes.

Yeah, but you also don't better about it, though I do it more now.

You also don't know, because I remember when we took a nap during that shoot and it was the best decision we'd ever made.

That's true. We did have a photo shoot once, like we were super jet lag because it was a shoot in Paris. And we were like, OK, we have a one hour lunch break, like, can we nap? and we fucking napped hard.

I was going to say, this year I feel like conflicted because there's so many. So it's hard to tell like, where, what's the good one, what's the fun one? Yeah, who's where?

Oh, we're going to have to be lots of group chats, lots of networking, lots of emails. I know it is kind of like. The thing that's interesting, though, is that I think when I went to my first Met Gala party, I was expecting it to be first year.

It's just a party.

But it's crazy. How, like normal, the Met Party? Well, yeah, the Met Gala event is unlike anything I've ever been to before. I mean, ultimately, it is like celebrity prom, yeah, but it is still its own experience.

After party, I feel like last year no one went out and it was kind of sad, it was weird.

No, I think this year people are going out.

Definitely, but I remember last year us like sitting in a corner, being like.

Why is no one here, like, no one's going out? Yeah, yeah, I feel like this year we'll have a lot of good stories to report.

I think so, too.

I'm going to be buck wild. Are you? Are you going to dance hard and stuff?

I'm trying to think if there are even ones with dancing, yeah, remember that one that was like a basement?

Oh, basement, yeah.

I'll dance there, yeah, we should take a big open room, I think no one dancing.

AUSTIN Our friends. We need to go and we need to have fun and we need to dance and just say, who cares? All of you guys are in it, are trying to be too cool for school. I'm done with this BS, it's cringe.

I will leave you.

No, I just want to do the macarena, please. Oh yeah, my final story, that's so funny, and then I'm letting you go to your next.

I'm going to just drop this.

Yeah, literally just leave, and I'll just keep talking for two hours. Not last year, but the year before. I dyed my hair blonde, obviously, I bleached my hair and a photo of it got leaked or whatever, and we wanted to, like, debut my blonde hair.

Can I be honest? I didn't know a photo got leaked.

No one told me a photo fully got leaked and it was. I like, it was so funny because my agent saw the photo and was like, Oh my God, no. It started like freaking out and wouldn't tell me what was wrong. I was like, Girl, you've got to fucking tell me what's going on.

Is it, yeah?

Owen always jokes about facetuning his nudes.

I don't even know my own boyfriend.

I know, I know.

But that sounds like him, so you should be apologetic.

I know, I know Owen, I'm sorry I stole your joke. Honestly, it is a good joke.

It's a great joke. Facetuning nudes is great.

No, I genuinely haven't taken a nude.

I don't know the last time I've taken a nude.

It's just like not happening these days.

Maybe in the coming future.

Maybe I'll take a nude, maybe I'll take one tonight.

We could do that.

But it'll be like, really gross.

Yeah, and like, you'll be like, Oh my God.

I had this like one. One time, my friend took a photo of me in the bathtub. And I, like, had a bunch of back knee. And I was like, bent over. And it was like, so funny. And it is sort of a nude, but it's hideous, I'm into that vibe of a nude.

Yeah, that's it, and that's it, and it's not that serious.

No, however, we take it extremely serious.

And we spend nine months of the year thinking about it.

Yeah, well, it's honestly it is a year round thought. Although then there's like, but after we have to wait till I get an invite again, because then it's just like you can't start planning unless you get invited.

Yeah, it's embarrassing.

It's embarrassing to do that, however, we do also that. Jared I can't wait. It's like, so nerve wracking, actually when I think about it two days before. There's so much pressure, like the pressure is building, building, building, building, building.

It's going to be good, it's going to be great to be, it's going to be good.

Thank you for hanging out in your busy week, your busy met week. Are you kidding? You? Came to my hotel room and talked on the couch with me under a robe.

Well, that was my. I asked for the Well, you're cold? And also, I wouldn't, I wouldn't even be. There would be nothing else if you hadn't, if you hadn't brought me on to do your first met.

So OK, well, let's relax with that, because you're you slay and you're amazing at what you do, and so are you. OK, we'll stop, OK now, so we're going to go cry and hold hands.

So bad, I know.

What if it's so? It's hideous? You guys are like it could be, and it could be, so we'll see what you think touch base later.