Kelly Clarkson

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Hey, how are you?

I don't know why I have a microphone. why do they hand me a microphone? This is the smallest room I've ever played, it feels more professional if you have mics. I swear to God, I've been in Frohgurt shops that are larger than this.

From the audience.

Oh yeah, really, what are you talking about? Yes, they would always bring me coke.

No, I have. There's really nothing I wish there was, I wish there was some excitement.

Oh, but you went out in your youth and for maybe 10 years that we were working together, you tore it up. I did, I mean, you went out every night and killed it and then slept mostly at work the next day.

Yes, I did.

I had to reeking of rum. You had your fun, you had your good time. I did, I did.

It's just weird that now I don't, I don't do that anymore.

Well, I think Matt Gourley does enough partying for all of us, that's right. Yeah, that's pretty clear, right? no?

You guys are cord Bros. yeah.

Cord Bros. Two guys in Corduroy. Yeah, party, party.

Did you have a line?

I didn't have a well, I used to say, I didn't know. Angels flew so low. No, no, you wouldn't do that.

Oh, no.

Give me 10 years. in 10 years, we'll be a drug and then you'll love me.

That wasn't even your voice, you were just doing that voice.

That was my voice then. I've had several operations since then. No, I didn't have good game, I didn't really have good game, okay?

Yeah.

Do you think it's kind of sweet?

Okay, what the hell is wrong with you, people?

Why can't you just pretend it's sweet?

Isn't it sweet?

I said, Isn't it sweet? It's sweet, sweet.

I'm like, bullying them, I bullied them into it. Isn't it kind of romantic?

It's so sweet.

All right, we got to get going. Yeah, oh okay, we got time, what?

Hi, my name is Kelly Clarkson and I feel honored and super cheesy because I love Conan about being Conan O'Brien's friend.

Well, that's very sweet. thank you very much. that's very nice. And I will warn you, Kelly, it's apparently not a very sentimental crowd tonight. Oh, that's right.

We will make them cry. Yeah, exactly.

Do it, do it, you know, I kept talking about this, but I said, I know I've met Kelly and it was right. After you burst into the world's attention with American Idol, you came on my late night show and I watched the clip of it this morning.

I did, too.

And I was freaked out.

Oh, not me winning me on your show, sorry.

Yeah, oh, okay, yeah, yeah. no, no, I'm saying I watched the clip of you coming on my show. Yes, okay, yeah. I only watch things that involve me.

Okay, so that's why I felt like my voice sounded so we literally. I was telling him. Earlier, we googled it. Because I was like, I know it was like right after Idol, and I was so excited, like in love with him, like, I was very excited.

So what happened, I mean, why, did what?

No, no, I mean, just at that moment, I was like, I cannot believe. I was so excited to get to do your show. So I was like, it was a huge thing. And I'd never done anything like that. The only thing I'd done is Idol, really, so I was very excited. But we looked it up, I was like, I feel like it was like 2003-ish and we looked it up and that was so.

We are allowed to speak to each other once every 20 years.

Once every 20 years it's allowed, but no. But I had to turn it off because my voice was, you hate your own voice, like your talking voice, like I don't leave voicemails, I hate my talking voice.

You don't wait a minute to a degree that you don't leave a voicemail.

I never leave a voicemail.

How do you feel about being on a podcast?

Here's why I'm okay with this show, and here's why I'm okay with my talk show or any show I do. Because I don't watch them or listen to myself back because I'm in it like you experience, so I don't ever. We were just actually discussing this. I never watch myself. So for that reason alone, like, do you like your voice? when you hear your voice? Nobody really does, right.

I am, I am not a fan of my voice, but then I talk to other people and they agree that they're also not a fan of my voice. And I've always thought I do not have a good voice for television or radio. And that's the medium that I got into and which, by the way, reminds me I have a major bone to pick with you, which is, I got into being a talk show host because that's the one thing I could do. Oh, you became a talk show host and you're really good at it and you have so many other incredible possibilities, and you're an amazing singer. That enrages me, it just enrages me because that was all I could do.

Hey, you were like, I have been very vocal about this from the very beginning, like I was more shocked than anyone. Like, after doing the voice. They were like, Oh, we like how you are on the show, your energy, like we think you'd do great at a talk show. We have this idea. And I was like, Oh, thank you, no.

Oh, you said no initially.

Twice, because I was like, I do not think that people will want. I am not a comedian, I am not a journalist. I have no experience to do this. Like, literally, why would you want me to do this? Like, and so they really, my ex actually really pushed me to do it.

Like, it's like, it's fun and you enjoy it. I sometimes think I can predict who's going to be good at it. And when I heard that you were going to do a show, my first instinct was. You're a very warm person and you're a very you seem like a real person. And then when I bumped into people that work with you regularly, including the woman who did my makeup today, Yeah, Misha, yeah.

I mean, I think if you are yourself and you're comfortable, then it doesn't really matter because you don't know. Because I didn't know, like people told me afterwards, like, Wow, it was successful. Like that never happens.

But they didn't tell you that up front.

I had no idea like ignorance was 100 bliss. I had no idea that statistically, I was screwed. Like, I was probably going to fail. So I was like, if I had known that, I would have said no a third time.

No, the only way what happens in show business is they'll kill you with enthusiasm. So what happens is everyone's like, it's going to be the best, you're going to be amazing, it's the perfect choice for you. Perfect time.

Yeah, I'll just cash the check.

Yeah, and so you just, you know.

I'm glad I didn't know.

Yeah, it's best not to know, yeah.

And you just enjoy it and you do it because you like doing it.

Yeah, I'm curious because I want to go way back to....

I feel so rude, I'm so sorry. Oh no, no, I'm going to be an oscillating fan.

I don't need to focus on this. I turn my back on them all the time when I'm speaking to them in a room. It's not being recorded. I often have my back turned. This is the first time we've seen his face.

Well, I think in high school, I was informed, because I was very poor, that a way for me to get to college would be a scholarship. And they were like, you sing well, if you wanted to go this route, you'd be able to have. If you get to a certain point, if you make a certain chair or whatever. Because it was like opera.

And who were you listening to at this point? You were a huge Alanis Morissette fan, right?

I'm a huge everything fan like Nirvana Whitney, Rosemary Clooney, Reba McEntire. I live across the board just like music, I love Metallica.

To get into Berklee School of Music on a ride to get a scholarship, that's a big deal.

Well, it's a correction, there's a correction there. I didn't actually ever end up applying. I just had heard via my music program that once you achieve this, you could get that.

Okay, then I'm not impressed at all. I'm sorry and I think your whole career has been a sham. This podcast is over.

No, I didn't actually ever apply because I ended up.

Oh, really.

And this girl, randomly, yes, was crying. Her roommate bailed on her to move to L.A. And so, instead of going to college like a teacher's kid, my mom is a teacher. Instead of doing that route, I was like, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to eat ramen noodle and sit on a mattress and sleep on a mattress in this random house in L.A. And just try and make it work.

And you did odd jobs.

I have named something and I've probably done it.

Hitman, Hitman.

Still time, still time, and don't think I haven't thought about it. I have a list.

I'm sure you do. If all goes to shit and the apocalypse happens, watch out. Everyone in the record business has a list. Okay, but I heard that you were a rep for Red Bull Energy Drinks, I was.

Yeah, I was a rep. Yeah, it was cool, you got paid a good amount of money. I feel like $12 now. Just to drive around their truck with their gas money and go to lakes and be like, Hey, y'all want some free product? And then you just get to hang with these people.

If I did that now, at my age.

Yeah, at 41. Hi kids.

I have treats.

You'd be frowned upon.

Yeah.

You'd be arrested upon. I mean, it's a little easier. They're like, Yeah, you're cute, go do that. It was like a great job.

So you're working these different jobs, and I know that you were a waitress at, like, a comedy club. Uh-huh. Hyenas Okay?

Just like, look, when you're poor and like, you literally have gone without electricity, or like food when someone tries to walk out on their bills. I just remember this instance that happened. They left and I chased these individuals, which are grown men, like when I was like 18, and chased them out to the car. About to shut the door, put my boot in the door. Oh my God, I literally I don't know what you can say on this show, but I said, Motherfucker, you forgot something.

I was like, because you can say that on the show and by the way, that's your next song? Well, yeah.

Thank you, motherfucker, you forgot something that would have fit really well.

You didn't count on me. That would have fit into this round.

You can still try to get it into chemistry, but it's really dangerous.

I shouldn't have done it. My boss was angry at me for doing it because he was like, you can get like, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a. It's a dark parking lot or whatever. And I was like, you would have made they make you cover the ticket, if somebody does that to you, you have to cover it. I couldn't afford that.

No, that's, I mean, I completely understand. In that period of your life, too, there's something about being-.

You are bold and brave.

Right, it's that, what is it? Because what else do you have? You got nothing, you got nothing to lose.

Yeah, same for the day.

I know what's interesting to me now is that, you know, American Idol and a bunch of these different singing shows like The voice. They've become such a regular part of the fabric. I remember very clearly, and I was in New York and I was doing the Late night show. And I remembered seeing an advertisement for this brand new show called American Idol and not knowing what it was. And then hearing it's a singing competition show and, like anyone else, thinking, Well, that'll be around. -.

For 10 minutes.

For 10 minutes. Yeah, like everything else, yeah, and I'm always wrong about things.

Well, because that there's truth to that, because it was they had Pop Idol, which was in the UK. Will Young won the first one and that was kind of the big thing and it blew up there in the United Kingdom. And then Simon Fuller was not, Cal Fuller was like, Oh, I'm going to do this in America and see how it goes over. Well, they weren't sure.

It was a phenomenon.

It was just a phenomenon, so it just blew up and everybody was just trying to keep up with it, right?

I heard, I heard, I don't know if it's true that they so this is the level they were at. They took you guys to a mall, the contestants to a mall. This is true and I've heard this and it just sounds. I mean, now you know that they have a whole system because it's become part of the show business firmament, and it's this big deal.

We didn't have a stylist on the show until. I think, like, the top five, maybe.

Right, so you guys were just doing your own makeup and hair?

They dropped us at a mall, the Beverly Center, and gave us.

Ooh, that's a rough mall.

Gave us, gave us money and said, and it was like, I don't. I think it was like 200 bucks, I don't even know how. It was just like a couple hundred dollars or something like that. And said, Okay, go, go. You know, this is, you know, a prize to go get something like, for, you know, the show. And I am thinking the show's going nowhere. I'm pocketing this money.

I just wore what I had. So what did you? So you? so you didn't even spend the money they gave you? No, I didn't.

I was like.

This is like rent money, I was like.

I'm not going to waste it.

On this dumb mall. And like, who cares about? I didn't know. No one knew the show would be what it was. I'm literally the first winner, I had no idea, like no one knew, even after I won, no one knew.

That's unheard of in any H.e. not, that's unheard of in any business, but specifically the music business. For someone to say this is a superstar, a major talent, she wants out, you can go.

I was on MTV, Iced Out performing and I was just in tears on the phone going, Look, I love you. You're like the kindest person ever. But I don't work with you on the regular and I'm just unhappy with who I am working with. And he not only said he'd let me out, he also said he'd help me find management and help me out. Like after and with no ask, like, nothing, no strings. So I had a very positive experience in that sense.

Right, I will point out, he sounds like a terrible businessman.

He's really loaded.

So he's doing something right once, I was like.

My friends and I randomly, like, went backpacking, you know, in France, and he was like, Literally, this is a real story.

He was like, Oh, are you near? and I was like.

Oh my God, you're here too. And he was like, Yeah, he was like, I'll send my tender for you, and I was like.

I'm sorry what I was like.

What is it? And this is before the app tender. This is a boat, I guess, a tiny boat with a bigger boat that comes to get you. And I was like.

I don't, I don't. It contains another boat, it's a tiny boat.

I guess.

From one big yacht to like, and I was like.

Oh man.

We roll in different circles.

Wait a minute, you don't have to send your tender. You're you're backpacking with your friends and it's like, you're going to stay in a youth hostel. And then this guy's like, I'll send my yacht over. We were definitely staying.

In just like a normal hotel, like it was a normal hotel. And I just was like, Oh, my God, you're good, like, that's not, I don't. I feel like a pretty woman, like, you know, you walk in the store and you don't belong. So I was like, Oh, this is not, this is not how I roll.

It's true.

It's funny how words change.

I've had no experience with either tender me, neither it came along before my time, so I never had to swipe or anything.

You never, Yeah, I just.

Never did that. I don't think I would have done very well in that world.

Yeah, I'm not even going to venture into there. Oh, come on.

Let's give it a shot.

No.

You know?

I'm pretty old fashioned.

Yeah, you know, I want to talk about this album, chemistry because I've been listening to it. I listened to it last night and my daughter is such a massive fan of yours and she's 19. So I said, they gave me this sneak listen to Kelly Clarkson's new album. And so she got in the car with me and we drove around and listened to the whole album and she both of us blown away. But my daughter just going on and on about your range and the way you put a song across.

It's my 10th, someone told me that, yeah.

That's amazing, and I someone told me that.

I'm going to be honest with you, I had no idea.

I'm told I'm delightful.

I am delightful.

Not by anyone. Here, I hire a guy.

And it's fascinating to know which one you saw.

Which one do you mean?

Because they they show, you know, they edit, and they show you. I think they ended up releasing, but they had me actually sing another song, I came in singing at last, yeah.

That's the one I saw.

Yeah, but then they actually ended up releasing at some point because people they found out I, because they asked me. They're like, Oh, that's how you sound. In a slow song, can you sing like an uptempo? And like literally every person was singing itchy, kitschy, yaya, whatever.

But it clearly went well.

It went fine. But like, I just, it's funny because how they edit the show like nobody even saw that for years.

Which is great is watching their reactions, because it's, you know, you have the judges there and it's Paul Abdul and they're just there. You start, they're like, Okay, go ahead and you come in, and you really do look like you've just come in. From selling some Red Bull to people in a park.

I literally probably did.

And then you start to sing at last and you just cut to them. And it's really fun to see because it's I don't know. It's like people seeing a UFO, they're just all looking at you, their reactions are so priceless.

So Randy and Paula were like that with me, but I had to win over the Brit. Like he, he didn't even remember me. He like, I came back and he literally said, and like, I think I was seeing respect. And it was on one of the lives or something. And he, I was like, Oh, you can't hear that enough, He was like, I don't even remember you.

His job was kind of to be that way, and it's nice.

I had also changed my hair color. So I think he just honestly did not recognize me or remember me at all. Was not impressed by my voice at first. And I think I.

What are you talking about? You're you have. I think I won him over. you have like this crazy operatic voice, I'm telling you.

I but I literally, I got off stage and I was like, Well, you can't hear that enough. I was like, I don't remember you, I was like, Okay.

Yeah.

I'd rather suck and be memorable than not memorable.

Well, he wears sweaters with no t-shirt underneath.

No.

He's like, such a fan now, he's so nice.

Oh, now he's come around. I had to win him over, No.

I won him over on the show, I won him over on the show, but I think it took a minute, yeah.

This album that you've done, Chemistry, is about really personal stuff in your life, yeah, which is where a lot of great music comes from. Tragedy historically.

Two and a half to three. I. I literally had to sit on it because my my label loved the the work. But I was like, I can't, I can't sit and do this. I'm not ready, like, you know what I'm saying to talk about it.

Because it's do you feel like it's all because you went through this traumatic, you know, separation, divorce is that is. And I, and obviously I'm not a songwriter or know anything about it, but is that at all therapeutic to write about it?

It's only therapeutic that that's the 100, the reason why I. I did it like I wrote so many songs. And I think, you know, we all process things differently. And for me, like, even when I was a kid, I had a funny enough. I had a problem communicating and really good at it now, but but I had a problem with it. And my mom, like, shoved a, like a journal in front of me and was like, Why don't you write?

Now, but the ones that are super literal.

Those are for me.

And they're probably just super specific and so super.

Duper specific.

Right on August 5th, there's a lot of anger.

There's a lot of anger, I think a couple of the angry songs made it, but they weren't the ones that were like, you know, no code red over. Divorce in general is hard, separation that is hard.

Thank you, it's a Conan shirt, and, uh, they're very sexy, I love it.

It's amazing. Um, I'm so ADHD like squirrel. Sorry, um. But I think I think when you're, when you're, when you're that, when you that isolated, and I think everybody relate Covid, right? People are so isolated.

What do you do? You have an instrument that you use, a musical instrument when you, when you are trying to work something out? do you use a guitar, use a piano?

I'm a horrible guitarist and I like, literally I played one tour and then I found out like, halfway through they were like, not putting it in, I was like.

I was like.

I found out they were like, not putting it in the mix, and they were like.

Well.

We just knew, you know, you're learning so like, and I was like.

I killed that solo, I was like.

I was rocking on low tonight, I was like, I felt it and I was like, Okay, I'm gonna let the professionals do it. So I know chords like on a enough to like, write if I need to, on a guitar or piano. But honestly, most things, especially this record, most of it was Acapella, just lyrics and melody flowing out of me. And then we worked a track around it. And sometimes I call like, I. I literally sent out like a like, a code red. Like any any artist friends that I knew that were producers or writers. I was like, please send me anything you have. That's like, even if it's like a random guitar riff idea or just anything. That cause I. I was needing to get all of this out, and I just needed different moods and different like perspectives musically.

I love that you worked with and I. I did not see this coming. But one of my all time, all time idols is Steve Martin. I've just I absolutely adore Steve Martin. I can't believe, he said. Yes, and he had a huge impact on my comedy and my life. And then I find out that, I mean, I always knew he's an amazing, amazing banjo player.

You would have never I what?

Like, that doesn't even make sense, but it sounds great, and the song is.

So the song is I hate love and and in the song, so I wrote, sure.

How you feeling these days? It's a really sunny day.

Um, no, and why I hate love is not that I hate love, it's it's that you hate what love can do, you know? And and especially so in the second verse. Um, you know, you watch the notebook, right? And you're like, Oh, that's so beautiful, James Garner crying.

I was making a joke, I dated him for a while.

Was it good for you?

No, it's really, yeah.

I know it's not the notebook.

Is it underwhelming lover?

So, no, so, anyway, I made this reference of Steve Martin in it, and that I, I would choose Steve Martin over Gosling. And and um, I literally looked at Jesse Shaggum, my producer. I was like, Do you think? cause I know he's a badass musician? I was like, Do you think in some world he would agree to play on this? Cause it's kind of a pop punk song.

And it is.

And so anyway, he said, Yes, I know, and I didn't get to go to the studio with him. I'm still, I still never met him. Jesse got to, I was working.

It's so funny, you brought up the notebook and I just have to relate that. Ryan Reynolds was on the show. Do you remember this? Ryan Reynolds was on the show once?

Burned into my memory.

So, so, Ryan Reynolds was on our show and he had this ID said Let's recreate this scene from the notebook. So I'm wearing the blue dress in the rain, yeah.

With the they're yelling at each other.

And they're yelling at each other in the rain.

You came back for me.

Yeah, and Ryan Reynolds is doing Ryan Gosling and it. It culminates with the two of us. And it was shot in this like beautiful filmic style to exactly match the movie. Oh my gosh, and I am, what's the actresses?

You're Rachel McAdams.

I'm Rachel McAdams and my hair is just matted down and I'm wearing the same dress. How was your ugly cry? Oh, it was fantastic, It was really ugly. And. But it ends with Ryan Reynolds. And I had just agreed that we were going to rush each other and start making out.

The old college try, huh? No, no.

I just go for it. And Ryan Reynolds at one point has this move where he's reaching over and he's doing. He's kind of twiddling my ear. Oh my god. And so we just both went.

That's one of his moves.

Yeah, exactly, so I learned a lot about him and myself that day. Yeah, exactly. And so we're done.

Like, collectively.

At the same time.

I no longer like, I'm no longer, I don't like you.

I don't like, I'm kind of attracted to both of you.

Yeah, I now find you both horrific, but I think that's amazing. Well, it's a good experience, it's amazing.

How long it lasted? Oh yeah, so long.

I went, you know, just go for it when you know that's coming.

Do you use a mint? Do you put a mint in your mouth?

I actually just to get them had a burrito.

Yeah.

Do you guys still talk at all?

Do you still kiss? Let's just say?

We text a lot, Oh, I'll just leave it alone.

That kind of relationship, yeah.

It is funny how I love people.

That go for the joke that that's the beauty of comics. That's why I loved actually being a cocktail waitress in a comedy club. I love to be, to put your pride or everything aside, ego and just be like, Hell, why not? I love that. There's nothing more attractive.

Why are you saying we put our pride aside?

Well, no, I mean, I mean.

I know exactly.

Some people have pride.

That they have to put aside and I know a lot of.

What's this pride thing?

I know a lot of.

Straight dudes would be like, No, no, I don't want people to think like, and it's like, Okay, guy, nobody's thinking about you that much anyway. I love that people, I think that it's the most unattractive, it's the most attractive thing. I'm sorry about a person to be so comfortable.

I imagine I'm always trying to look for what's the connection between different artistic forms. And what I do know is, and I know that it applies to what you do in music is, and also on your talk show. When it's time to go, you just go, you know, you look at all the different things that you've been through in your life and in this recent, in your personal life recently. And people might say, Well, how do you keep going? It's because you take it moment to moment to moment. I'm going to take this and I'm going to write this song, then I'm going to write that song. I'm going to move to this moment, then to that moment.

Well, that's interesting, you said that, because that's literally. I think everybody had a hard time during Covid. They tried to keep our show going and well, we did. But like from my ranch in Montana, which had a very poor internet and like, could not be a more remote location. In the mountains. And I'm traipsing through snow, my marriage is falling apart, no one knows. I'm learning all these songs, I'm doing this other stuff for music thing. Just shit is hitting the fan and all the while, you know, you're like, What's up America? and you're smiling. And I think a lot of us have to do that, whatever vocation you choose, whatever your job is, I think a lot of us have to do that sometimes. But what I found helpful is I would be, like, truth like, completely bawling, like right before we would be shooting, I'd be like, How do I fix this?

And I know that's so rare for you.

It is, yeah.

Because I've actually seen footage of you at some award show and you're performing your act, and I know that. I later heard the backstory, which is that you needed to have an appendectomy, didn't they like? And they like the doctors-.

Award shows are like the death for me. You don't understand like that happened. Yes, like my appendix was about to burst, I literally went into surgery hours later. Something else happened the other time I was doing it.

Right, and now you're calling them.

And telling them they have cancer, like, I'm like, wait, what? and and and and then.

They called Clark Kellyson, and then I was like.

I know.

And then we're so sorry, Clark, but I'm just telling you.

Award shows get ruined. For me, they're like, sometimes I don't want to go because I'm like, what the hell is going to happen to me like?

Because something always.

Happens, I feel like, and and I won that night.

Oh my God. And then I won again.

And then I just kept crying because I was like, God's giving me this before he takes it, Oh my God.

Sorry, I'm sorry, I had to have my makeup.

Thank you God for this one last.

What?

I get to live.

Everyone was like.

Oh my gosh your performance, because it's an emotional song in general. They were like it was so beautiful and I was like, that's because I thought I was dying.

And I was like, so worried.

And they had to redo my makeup three times. I'm like, you, people ruined an entire moment to like for me and I just, I, yeah, I award shows in general, like, shit always happens to me, I don't know, I'm always afraid to say yes.

Like?

Cause who knows what's going to happen?

My favorite, uh, my award show moment was I was working. Why? There was a there's a bunch of crazy things that have happened, but I was working on an award show once and emceeing it and had to do. Kind of like a song and dance number and I can sort of, like, hold a tune, if necessary, in a comedic way. So it was all fine, but then it was important that I hit this note at the end. Yeah, and so they said, you know about this? But they said, what we're going to do is we're going to get you into the Capitol Records building.

Did you do it while they were playing?

And yeah, it was, it was the greatest thing in the world. And what they did is they had me hit this, sing it there, so they had it on this track. But then they had me hit this one note, so I was going to sing it live. But then at the end, go so welcome to the. You know, I got to hit this note up there and hold it, which I don't do. Uh, it'd been piece of cake for you, but I don't do that.

You know, he was, he was so impressed.

And then rejected it.

He went from, Wow, that was, and then his face fell like he'd had a stroke, and he just turned and walked away. And I'm like, Yeah, he was just like, Oh, you sickened me. Yeah, it was a fun moment for me.

Oh my god, artists do that.

Do me a favor. Will you not have 20 years go by before we talk again? I know.

I have 20 years.

And you know what? One of the reasons I got to come visit you is because you're moving your show to New York. You're going to be in my old studio, where we did late night from 93 to 2009. Yeah, so for 16 years I was in that place.

I couldn't believe it would be 20 years.

I was like.

Jeez, you said I'll see you in 10 albums, sucker.

They told me the history of it.

Yeah, Tom Snyder was there, interviewed John Lennon in that room. That is a very famous studio that has magical mojo, so I'm really happy that you're going in there, it makes me happy.

Oh, I am too, I'm very happy too.

Well, the album chemistry will, I think when this drops, it doesn't drop, it drops June 23rd, it's a pod. No, I'm saying the podcast, I'm so confused about what to say because it's a it kind of falls with a bit of a thud, yeah.

Can I say something real quick? Do you? I just found this out in a podcast yesterday. Do y'all know I'm look, I'm going to sound like an idiot? Do you know? Like, do you know? Before anyone answers what Netflix and Chill is like, do you know what that is?

Yeah, I do. yeah, what do you think it is? Well, I think it's let's get it on, as the kids used to say.

Yeah, it's like A, it's like A. It's like a way of saying, let's do it.

Yeah, my friend was like.

Yeah, that's like getting a text like you up, and I was like, Wait, what? I have been saying, I'm more of a Netflix and chill girl.

I-.

No, no, no, Kelly.

That means, no, it doesn't mean what you think.

I am aware as of like.

12 hours ago. But like.

But I didn't know I'm like, Oh my God, I have been saying like.

Oh, I'm like a Netflix and chill person, like, I just thought it meant, yeah.

It's kind of like, a, yeah, that'll be on in the background, my other one.

I had no idea and I have been out here for like a minute going, I don't know. I'm like low key, I'm like Netflix and chill kind of girl, and they're all like, all right girl.

I'm kind of a hulu and screw guy.

I've got to be honest with you, I'd be down for either. But like, I just, I'm up for the occasion, but like, I just didn't know.

I'm just a peacock and just a peacock.

It's kind of sets itself up, at least.

Well, Kelly, I hope I see you again soon. You are well, you're everything you were when I met you 20 years ago. You're just still incredibly talented. Obviously that doesn't go away, but you're a very warm, real person, and you're funny, and you're still yourself. You're still the person that ran down the street after those people that ran out on the tab.

Man, they're already here, very good.

Kelly Clarkson Everybody, thank you.

Oh my God, I literally found that out yesterday.

You just found that out.

It was with Glennon.

What a lovely person isn't she?

She's lovely.

Wait a minute, what the hell is all that about?

There are really good audiences out there.

I'm stuck with you, people. Wow, they don't do that when I walk down the hall. No, they hide.

You're not Kelly Clarkson.

No, I'm sorry, I'm Clark Kellyson, I have some bad news for you.

I wanna say you like cell phones.

No, oh, I like, good, that's too vague, I'm sorry, I'm gonna be more specific.

There you go.

And I like, Thanks a lot, you're a big help here. It is possible with T-Mobile Now, Blay, you are a loyal T-mobile fellow. Tell us about your experiences.

Everyone believed you.

They just, believe it or not, there was a sadness about it.

Everyone believed it. Well, it's great.

I like to go connect with nature and live stream it, it's fun. I go, I have this great two hour loop I do, and I bring people along. Sorry, did you say great?

Yeah, okay, yeah.

And we play games like, What's this tree? and we rate dogs and stuff that I see on my hike. And also there's a lot of big houses around where I live. I live in an apartment, but we try to guess how much each one of those houses cost.

What a gripping live stream.

And it's really fun and fantastic, very good. With T-Mobile, I get great service, you get that 5G coverage, right?

5G is the good one.

Yep.

Yay.

David, A quick question Did you get to meet Kelly Clarkson?

I did.

You did, I did, okay. We were driving today together and we're listening to Kelly's new album, Chemistry. At one point, we've finished like the third or fourth song, and I said, Oh, that song is really good, and you looked at me and said, It's impossible for Kelly to have a bad song.

It's true, it's true.

I know, but you are such a fanatic. It must have been nice to meet her.

It is I brought a vinyl, she signed it for me. I didn't ask you if I could do that because I didn't want to risk you, saying no, so I just brought it.

Well, now I look like a controlling asshole to everybody. I taught you well, so the answer is I would like it and I will shred it in front of you.

No, I actually wasn't.

Oh, you just forgot.

Yeah, I just forgot. It's easier to say I'm afraid than I forgot.

I'm glad, I'm glad you met her. isn't she nice?

She is really nice, thank you.

Please, you made it happen.

He told me yesterday he was like, you're gonna get one-on-one time. And then I wasn't sure if it was a bit or if it was true, and it was true.

Why do you and Sona always think that my acts of kindness are a cruel joke? They are?

Why would we ever think that you said something nice earlier? And I started getting super defensive.

Yeah, whenever I try to be nice, I promised you one-on-one time with Kelly Clarkson, and I half meant it. But no, I knew that I would be able to swing it. And she's so nice, she's one of those people that's gonna say, No, I'm out of here. I've performed what I needed to do, now I'm gone.