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On today's part of my Take, an extra long Wednesday episode, sending you into Thanksgiving.

Here's what we're going to do.

We're going to talk Monday Night Football.

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So we're going to do three picks this week.

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Let's do three.

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We are going to talk to our good friend, crazy uncle, Mike Florio, and we're going to do

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It's part of my tip.

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It's part of my tip.

Yeah.

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Okay, today is Wednesday, November 22nd and the Philadelphia Eagles have the best record

in the NFL PFT.

Congratulations to the Eagles for getting the one seed.

I don't see them losing.

Max, congratulations.

Eagles Super Bowl champions.

They didn't get the one seed.

Oh, I thought they did.

I watched your video and I thought they did.

Sorry.

You guys don't like passion anymore.

We love passion.

So Monday Night Football was great.

It delivered.

We wanted a very good game.

We got a very, maybe not the best played game, but we got a very dramatic game.

It was a close game.

It was an interesting game.

I don't want to downplay what the Eagles did because going into that environment, that's

tough to win in.

Credit to the Eagles.

That's a sign of a good team for being able to come out of that game with a win.

Like really well coached team.

Great players.

I'm not going to say anything bad about the Eagles.

They deserve to win.

But it's very concerning to me that the Chiefs can't score a single point in the second half

of their last three games.

Chiefs?

Very concerning.

Chiefs?

Yeah.

Three games in a row.

No points in the second half.

So let's talk about the Eagles real quick because they did win.

That's fine.

And then we'll get to the Chiefs.

The Eagles, so they got, if you watch that game, the Chiefs look like they were the better

team while watching it.

But the Eagles get a ton of credit because the Eagles are a team that knows how to stick

in games and knows how to make the big play when the moment arrives.

Yeah.

That is to me what the Eagles are, is that you get credit for that Jalen Hurts-Devante

Smith throw, being able to figure out the second half, your defensive adjustments to

keep the Chiefs out of the end zone, like punching the ball out of Kelsey's hand in

the red zone.

The Eagles are a team that is not just good, but they also have that ability to big moments

they deliver.

And so they do get a ton of credit from me for winning in a very tough environment in

Arrowhead, in a game that it looked like they were not the better team while watching

the game.

Again, they might be the better team, you know, come January.

But if you watch that game, the Eagles, or at least in the first half especially, the

Chiefs were able to move the ball, whereas the Eagles were getting sacked every single

play.

Yeah, so it's crazy because if you watch the Super Bowl, you think, fuck, the Eagles are

really good.

I can't believe they lost that game.

They played such a good game.

If you watch this game, you're like, it was kind of ugly.

Eagles gritted it out, stayed in there, didn't make too many mistakes.

They made a big play when they had to.

I think Jalen Hurts had like 105 yards passing before that bomb to Devontae Smith at the

end of the game.

But you look at the other side of the ball, the Eagles' defensive line played really well

last night.

Really well.

And that's the difference.

That's why they didn't win the Super Bowl.

The second half they showed up.

It was because they couldn't get to Patrick Mahomes, and they got to Patrick Mahomes a

lot.

I do like Nick Sirianni though.

Nick Sirianni is kind of like a defensive back who will celebrate incompletions when

it's like a drop pass or a massive overthrow.

Sirianni was the first guy being like, no, incomplete, win Meiklehardt, or no, MVS.

Marcus Valdes-Scantling dropped that bomb at the very end of the game, which he should

have caught.

Packers fans are like, told ya.

Yep.

We've seen that play before.

If you can touch it, you can catch it, right Hank?

Facts.

Jalen Carter actually should have had an interception on that spike by Patrick Mahomes.

Oh, that was the best.

Because he touched it.

That was the best.

Max, so while we're talking about the Eagles, tell us your thoughts on the game real quick.

Is it okay to say that the Chiefs, maybe they look like the better team, but it doesn't

matter because the Eagles make the big plays?

For the majority of the game, yes.

At the end of the game, no.

Right.

When big plays have to happen, the Eagles step up.

Not to mention, everyone keeps saying that MVS drop lost the game.

If he catches that ball, Eagles have a minute 15 and three timeouts to just get a field

goal.

So that's one thing that is really bothering me, that everyone's like, if MVS catches

that ball, it's game over.

Well, there were other drops too.

It wasn't game over.

There were other drops.

I know, but like, sometimes you gotta make plays.

If you made a play, they didn't.

Correct.

Here's, for the Chiefs, so the Chiefs wide receivers are a problem.

Like it's clear that it's a problem, and it's also, I know that people are gonna play the

revisionist history and be like, how do you not keep Tyreek Hill?

I do think in terms of the Chiefs, we're not thinking about, one, they won a Super Bowl

without Tyreek Hill.

That happened.

So that flag flies forever.

They won the Super Bowl.

That's everyone's goal.

They won the Super Bowl without Tyreek Hill.

I also think the Chiefs made a calculated move to essentially say, we know that with

Patrick Mahomes, he's gonna be the franchise quarterback for 15, maybe 20 years.

We have to evolve and stay ahead of this, like trading Tyreek Hill for a bunch of draft picks,

making, the Chiefs have their best defense for Patrick Mahomes, like their defense is

very, very good, and we have to evolve into a team that can get a little younger on the

wide receiver, try to find that next guy, because we know that Patrick Mahomes will

be here, and you have to keep like constantly almost rebuilding on the fly, otherwise you're

gonna fall behind.

So I have no problem with, like, people are complaining that they got rid of Tyreek Hill.

I think that was a smart move for the next 5, 10 years instead of right now, which again,

right now they won the Super Bowl last year.

It would be awesome if they had Tyreek Hill.

I think Andy Reid would tell you that, yeah, we could use Tyreek Hill on this team.

That's not like a question, but when you factor in the contract and everything that goes along

with it, yeah, you can't, you have to make decisions about who you pay, and they're like,

well, this guy is going to be, you know, a massive, massive price tag.

We have to figure out a way to win without him, and you're right, they did.

They won without him, so they were right about that.

Right.

I don't know if it's like alternating nights of which Chiefs receiver can't catch a ball,

or if they just all can't catch, but it seems like every Chiefs loss, it's because one guy,

and it's a different guy every time, can't hang on to a football.

They lead the league, I think, in drop passes, and what I...

By far.

Yeah, by far.

What I don't, there also was a very funny clip, Patrick Holmes threw his towel or something

to a fan after the game, and the fan dropped it.

Like, perfect.

Perfect ending.

The one thing that happens with the Chiefs that I don't, that I want to push back on

is it does feel like when the Chiefs lose a game, we don't give credit to the other

team, and we're like, oh, well, they drop passes, and the Chiefs, like, the Chiefs are

fine, which I do think they're fine long-term, but I think this game, as much as the drop

passes hurt them, it comes down to knowing that their offense is not as explosive as

it has been in the past.

You need two guys to basically be A-plus or A in a game, and that's Patrick Holmes and

Travis Kelsey.

And what happened?

Patrick Holmes throws a really bad interception in the red zone, Travis Kelsey fumbles in

the red zone.

Those are the two plays that change that game, that the Chiefs, like, they don't have the

margin for error for those, for both of their best players to make mistakes like that in

the red zone.

If either, if one of them doesn't make that mistake, the Chiefs probably win the game.

That's really what it comes down to, is like, you need Patrick Holmes not to throw an interception

in the red zone, you need Travis Kelsey to hold on to the football in the red zone.

Travis Kelsey also looks a little bit slow out there.

I don't know if he's hurt, there's a chance he might be injured, I know he just snuck

away to Argentina for a week, so people are going to talk about that, that's just, that's

the way the game's played.

When Tony Romo, remember he went to Cabo before, it was the bye week that they had in the playoffs,

right?

Yeah.

And then he came back.

Like, that's just, it's something that we're going to talk about.

I don't know if, like, the travel had anything to do with it, all that red meat he was probably

eating down there.

Yeah, the other one I always point to is when Brandon Marshall started doing Inside the

NFL mid-week when he was on the Bears, and it was like, oh, this is cool, he's, you know,

thinking about his next career, and then the Bears started losing, it's like, what the

fuck, dude?

Why are you traveling?

I did notice he had a couple drops, he fumbled, fingers might be tired, I don't know what

that's all about.

Just something to keep an eye on.

Where have those fingers been?

Taylor Swift was not there, she was playing a concert last night, which was touching,

I don't know if you saw that, it gave me all the feels.

Every feel, I had it.

But then Swift on the Eagles had a great game.

Listen, I, as a rival, I root for a rival team, but even I can see, like, Swift, it's

fun to watch him run the ball.

I don't know how the Eagles keep finding all these impact players that they can get in,

it's like, oh shit, we've paid, what, like, I don't know, what was the price tag on Swift,

Max?

A third, I think?

Yeah, I mean, they're well coached, and he's awesome, and he's really good, and every time

he gets the ball, it's like, oh shit, they have this guy, too, in addition to everything

else, and the Chiefs could not stop the tush push at all.

They got, I think the Eagles averaged, like, two, two and a half yards last night on each

tush push.

It was unstoppable.

Yeah, and it's, listen, both those teams, I would not be shocked if they're in the Super

Bowl.

I think the Chiefs, the burying the Chiefs after a loss is, we've done this before, it's

kind of like when Tom Brady and the Patriots would have a loss and everyone would be like,

they stink now.

It's like, I think in late January they'll still be in the picture, but the Ravens are

now the one seed, if the season ended today.

So, that is an interesting thing, because Patrick Holmes never won a road game in the

playoffs.

I don't think he's ever played a road game in the playoffs.

It's easier to say he never won a road game in the playoffs.

He has not played a road game.

But he's also never, yeah, but I'm saying, like, that's a concern to me, too.

Is he really that good?

We don't know.

He's never won a road game.

He's been protected by the home field.

He has never played a road game, that is a fact.

But yeah, it's interesting that, I don't know, both those teams are really good.

I would love to watch them play a million times.

It's fun.

I am actually concerned about the Chiefs.

If you can't score a touchdown or any points in the second half of three straight games,

that's a problem.

I'm concerned about the Chiefs and the fact that their receivers have not made the progress

that you thought they would make, especially coming off a bye week.

You thought this would be the Chiefs' best effort in terms of offense and they look a

lot better.

But again, I'm just never going to write off Patrick Holmes because he'll be there.

And their defense is nasty.

They were all over Jalen Hurts in the first half.

Chris Jones, I think he had a back-to-back sacks on one drive.

Yeah, I was pretty impressed.

He's a game wrecker.

Are there any wide receivers out there that don't have jobs that they could pick up?

I just like speculating about that sort of thing.

Terrell Owens.

Terrell Owens.

T.O., bury the hatch with Andy Reid.

Yeah.

Come on home.

Get him in there.

Antonio Brown.

Antonio Brown?

Yeah.

Larry Fitzgerald, not retired.

Larry Fitzgerald, not retired.

Yeah.

Antonio Brown and Jackson Mahomes hitting the town together?

Yeah.

That'd be something.

Justin Watson also might want to think about changing his number.

Yep.

84 is a tight end number.

It is, but as a guy that roots for a team that has exclusively single-digit and team

number receivers, I like to see a solid 81 out there.

I like to see an 82.

Yeah.

What are you going to say, Hank?

I think 84 can be a wide receiver number.

I don't know.

Every time I see him, I'm like, is that a tight end?

Oh no, that's...

Well, there's a pretty good receiver that wore number 84, right?

Yeah.

But maybe it's because he's a white 84?

Yeah, that's probably it.

Yeah, that's probably it.

And he's a little bit taller?

Well, if it's a white guy wearing 84 over six feet tall, that's tight end.

That's tight end.

That's tight end.

That's how our brains work.

Max, last thing.

And I told you this this morning, and this is just, you know, I want to have a real talk

with the AWLs for a second.

Obviously last year, I was rooting for the Eagles.

Last night, PFT and I took the Chiefs.

Watching Max's video after, I love Max.

Max does an incredible job.

I just want to say for the Max haters, I see what you're talking about.

I see what you're talking about.

When I saw that video, I was like, I fucking hate this guy.

For a moment.

For a moment.

Listen, I am not looking to make friends with the teams that I go against.

Yeah.

That has never been my MO.

You're either going to love me or you're going to hate me when you go into battle with me.

But it was funny just seeing it through a different lens, and I was like, oh yeah, this

guy fucking sucks.

I snapped out of it.

I was like, I fucking love Max.

Both the videos were very funny.

I like this one right here.

We're fucking back, baby.

Where's all the frog callers now?

Where's all the frog callers now?

What about the tweet on Travis Kelce?

Yeah, let's talk about that.

You mean Max's Pornhub search?

Yeah.

I wanted to bring that up.

Philly Mays tweeted this out last night, 9.40pm.

This was when Travis Kelce fumbled the ball, right?

In the red zone?

Yeah.

Travis Kelce, little boy.

Little boy ass play.

What'd you mean by little boy ass play?

Because we texted you about that one, Max, and then your reply was, I stand by what I

said.

You stand by little boy ass play.

I don't stand by little boy ass play.

I stand by little boy ass play.

Yeah.

Little boy ass play.

You're looking for little boy ass play?

Like that was a bit-

You're looking for Travis Kelce with a little boy, or little boy ass play?

What college did you go to again, Max?

Villanova V's up.

What college do you root for in football?

Villanova's going to be in the FCS.

Oh, okay.

What about James Franklin?

How many little boy asses have you looked up?

Zero.

It's like a bitch, you know, like a bitch ass play, like little boy ass play.

Little boy ass play.

Yeah.

You guys are doing the wrong cadence.

You did it, no.

No, that was how it was written.

Little boy ass play.

No, it was little-

All caps.

Yeah.

That was a little boy ass play.

Have you heard-

Anyone got any little boy ass play they want to pass around to Max?

No, that was a little boy ass play.

Have you heard from the FBI?

No.

No, but I, you also, that was the biggest ratio in the history of Twitter.

I did ratio you really hard last time, but I saw it, I couldn't believe it.

I honestly could not believe that you did that, Max.

They're going to steal our computers.

But that was a little boy ass play by Travis Kelly.

Stop saying that.

Little boy ass play.

Little boy ass play.

No, you guys are doing the pause, which is making it different.

You said you wanted little boy ass play.

No.

There's no punctuation.

Little boy ass play.

Little boy ass play.

We don't do punctuation.

Another way you, another way you wrote it was you wanted ass play from little boys.

No, it was a little boy ass play.

Like he, like that, Travis Kelsey, little boy.

He was calling Kelsey a little boy and saying the play was ass, which means it was bad.

That's what he was intending, but it did not come across that way.

Yeah, little boy ass play.

Cause you did use punctuation.

You said Travis Kelsey, little boy, period.

And then little boy ass play.

Yeah, that's where I was like, I felt, it felt like a search.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Did you have to Google that?

No, I just wanted to.

I, Travis Kelsey, little boy.

Like when the guy that played Hank on Breaking Bad just tweeted out sex gifts by mistake.

That's an awesome one.

Okay.

Well, so overall, Max, you, you got to feel good.

You still have the gauntlet coming up, like though, but we're, but we're in the middle

of it.

Yeah, I know.

Yeah.

No, I'm saying like you're in the middle of it.

You, you have the rest of the gauntlet coming up.

You have Bills, 49ers, Cowboys, Seahawks, which is going to be tough.

Yeah.

But we're 2-0.

So how would you want your, uh, your, your gauntlet record to be in the next four?

Four.

4-0.

4-0.

Would you be happy with 3-1?

Every game must win.

What'd you say?

Would you be happy with 3-1?

Every game is must win.

Would you be happy with 2-2 if the two were the Niners and the Cowboys?

If I could give you that right now, guaranteed.

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm not falling into this trap.

Every game is must win.

Okay.

But you, so you wouldn't be happy with 2-2?

Every game is must win.

Okay.

So if you lose a single game, then season's over.

See, this is what I, this was always my argument, but you're, you're not allowed to flip this

on me.

Oh, we just, I'm just asking questions.

Yeah.

We just did.

It's what we do as a podcast.

Yeah.

One seed.

Okay.

That's a little boy-ass play.

You don't want to see the commanders in the playoffs, Max.

He just wants-

Commanders are cooked.

He just wants a little boy with some ass play.

No, it was a little boy-ass play.

Were you saying that, that Taylor Swift has a little boy-ass?

Oh.

That's, I think that's what it was.

No.

I'm the only Swifty on this show.

That's true.

Cause you're in the doghouse.

Not in the doghouse.

I am a Swifty too.

Jake also in the doghouse.

I love Taylor Swift.

Nuh-uh.

Yes.

Yes, huh?

Nuh-uh.

Yeah, huh?