NFL Week 11, Fastest 2 Minutes, The Browns Are For Real, Tommy Devito Has Jersey Juice Plus Who's Back Of The Week

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On today's part of my take week 11 in the N.FL, we're gonna start with fastest two minutes. We're gonna talk about every game, the Super Bowl Browns. Are we thinking Super Bowl Browns?

We're thinking, soupy.

Super Bowl Browns Niners still looking like they're rolling bills? Get back on track. We get the first bad half of C.J. Stroud and the Texans still win, maybe a sign that they're very much legit. We're gonna get to all the games. Oh, also, Tommy Devito jersey juice. We'll get to that as well, we're gonna get to all the games we also have. Who's back of the week?

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They were pretty big, pretty big.

Kenny G. Pickett took some costly Alto sacks as the Steelers offense struggled. It was a punt battle as Big Ten West game broke out. But Dustin Anthony Hopkins was able to eat the Steelers liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti as he kicked the game-winning field goal, screaming afterwards Bulls, Peru It's an anagram clarice for Super Bowl Browns 13, Steelers 10..

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Down to Duval, where Calvin Ridley Scott returned from his Napoleon exile. To score twice, the Jaguars put another brick in the wall of their defense as they recovered two fumbles. Saying, I'll see you on the foyer side of the moon. Jeffrey Bill Simmons scored, but it was too little, too late. As people are asking, are the Jaguars having a moment? Are we sure the Titans aren't bad? Trevor Lawrence kind of reminds me of that movie.

Our good personal friend, Bill Simmons.

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Over to Houston, where the Greg do-do-do-do-do, looking out my back torch, had some major CCRS catches, conversions and receptions. The Whitney Houston Texans just want to dance with somebody who lovies me. Thinking back to their previous head coach, who got them into a position to draft boy genius C.J. Stroud member member single Berries.

In Carolina, people are asking if the price is right as the Panthers season is on a cliffhanger. While David Tepper is spay and neutering his coaches keeping their balls on his desk before the game. Jerry Jones put Jimmy Johnson into the ultimate glory hole, the Dallas Ring of Honor. And there wasn't a dry eye in the house. Darren Pituitary Bland hit a personal growth spurt this year, making more house calls than Jerry Jones favorite strippers. Is Jack back or did he just play the Panthers?

Up to Detroit, where Fields was back just in time to lose another game. Jared was golfly bad, then golfly good. As the game swung late in the fourth quarter. The Bears did their best impression of the Phoenix Suns locker room, having four men scoring. And Dan Campbell's soup had his team playing with a lot of concentrate as they scored twice late in the fourth to take the lead. As for the Bears, people are asking, Is it too late now to say sorry for hiring Matt Bieberflus? Because, yeah, he let everyone down. Lions 31, Bears 26..

We go down south to Miami, where Antonio Pierce Brosnan is leaving no doubt about his firing coaching style as he has the Raiders rushing for approximately.

Up to the frozen Tundra, where the seat is getting warm for Matt LaFleur Stone. Marcus Smart Grittin grinded his way to a 51-yard score and it looked like the San Diego Superchargers were back. Jaden Creed took the Packers higher with a score and the game was tight going into the fourth when Romeo and Juliet Dobbs scored late, putting the Chargers season officially in dire straits. Brandon Staley Have you heard this one?

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Because that guy fucking stinks, hey you. Packers 23, chargers 20..

To Raul John Maryland, where Raekwon Barkley unloaded all 36 chambers as the Big Blue Tang clan looked to wrap up their first win in a month. Let us be the first to wish you all a happy Thanksgiving. As Brian DeBala. Dean is getting ready for the big meal, allowing two sacks of mayo. As David and the rest of the commies defense had Tommy Dechito looking like a snack. Much like my close personal friend, Dick Cheney's good friend. The commanders are no longer in the hunt after getting their face blasted off by using a shotgun incorrectly. Michael Sam Howell was not allowed to shower with his teammates after the game because there was no hot water at Fedex field. And for the first time this year, Ron Rivera's team was unable to get rid of sweat.

For the last game, we're going to go out to our correspondent, Connor Memes in Western New York, Connor Memes. We head up to Buffalo, where the jets challenged the bills and blew up shortly after takeoff. Zach Wilson is fucking ass good. One boom.

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Let's Talk Week 11.

They are, they are, and they're fun, their defense is fun to watch. Miles Garrett had another great game today.

And Miles Garrett, we alluded to it in the fastest two minutes. Did a video this week in front of the reporters where he was shirtless, with gray sweatpants on and just cocked, just like in everyone's face.

Yeah, that's why he's not a basketball player, actually. Because he couldn't go between the legs, because his big old penis would just knock the ball away.

That was one of those moments where you can't even be mad at Miles because he just guess what?

He's got it. Listen, if I had a hammer like that, I would be wearing gray sweatpants all the time.

All the time, all the time and shirtless.

And I'd be shirtless, gray athletic shorts, even.

I always think about that if I had a six-pack, I would be shirtless in this office. The minute we start shooting hoops, I'd just rip off my shirt and be like, Yeah, pass me the ball.

I'll be skins. I disagree. I think I would do what Adam Sandler does, which is he's pretty jacked up, but he always wears big, flowy clothes. Yeah, but he doesn't have a six-pack, and then I think he's got like a four-pack. And then once every two years, he'll play basketball and he'll take it off. And all of his friends are like, Yo, what the fuck, man?

I'm talking like, if I had Miles Garrett's body, I'd be driving my car shirtless, just basically the minute I get home shirtless.

If I had Miles Garrett's body, I think I would ruin it within maybe two weeks, two weeks of living my lifestyle.

One Sunday.

And he would just look like me right now.

Yeah, one Sunday, but this game. So the Browns Stavansky kind of went into a little bit of turtle mode in the second half. It felt like a big 10 West game, where it was just field position, field position, field position. I, though, was, I thought. The Browns, like, obviously their defensive line is elite and controlled the line of scrimmage, but their offensive line played lights out. In terms of. They didn't like, run for an insane amount of yards, I think they were close to a hundred, but DTR was only sacked once.

It was a great game-winning drive by DTR. And I think that in the second half, both teams were just pretty much not trying to be the one that made the mistake. Because both defenses are really good, so they're like, DTR. Please do not get a sack fumble, please do not throw a bad interception, just let's be conservative, let's punt the ball. A punt was as good as a win for either team in the second half. And then at the end, when he had to do it, he did it. And they're kind of like the same football team, the Browns and the Steelers. Where Steelers fans, if it's like the bus meme, the Steelers fans are the ones looking at the dark side. Being like, our defense is awesome, our quarterback hasn't played well, but we have a winning record.

They got Joe Flacco.

And much to the dismay of RG3, who had Photoshops whipped up ready to go of him in browns uniforms. I heard that he was going to get the call, much to his dismay, he did not.

He was showing off this weekend, running with Dabo down on the field.

That was his workout tape that he put out there for the Browns.

It was 40 times.

But it would be so awesome if Joe Flacco won a Super Bowl with these Browns. And as of Friday, I put a $1,000 future on the Browns, thinking they were going to get Joe Flacco. So it pays out 50 to 1 already, down to 40 to 1. I'm making money on it already.

Joe Flacco's worth that much.

Joe Flacco gave a little bump and also probably this win. DTR, looking not incapable of doing the job, probably helped out a little bit there.

Yeah, he looked okay.

If Joe Flacco wins a Super Bowl and he does his normal Joe Flacco thing, where he doesn't make any mistakes, gets the pass. Interferences that would contribute so much to the Flacco discourse. It would make probably my entire year.

It would be a legacy-defining playoffs for you.

At that point, he's won two Super Bowls.

And he probably would get a long-term contract with the Browns.

He's elite. Give him a 10-year extension.

They're just like, Fuck it, here's $300 million, Joe.

Yeah, man, it would be awesome. It's probably because he's got five kids now and he's like, I really just want to get out of the house, so I'm down to play.

And it's crazy to think the Browns fans had the most rollercoaster. I mean, the whole season's been rollercoaster with Nick Chubb and the win-loss-win-loss. Deshaun out for a little, but then coming back looking good. Getting season-ending surgery like this week was a microcosm for their year. That it's just absolute madness. But the Browns, if you're a Browns fan, I think where you're sitting right now and it's not a bad place to be. I think in the back of your head, you're like, Yes, we don't really have a quarterback right now, like DTR young, Joe Flacco Old. It's going to be tough, but with that defense, no one wants to play you, no one wants to go up against the Browns. And you can basically tell yourself, and I think it's not that wrong, I don't even think you're like faking yourself out when you say it. That if we get into the playoffs and we have a chance like our defense is so good that we can win ugly games against pretty much any team.

So every time you bring up the Joe Flacco Elite conversation, it's like, Well, he won a Super Bowl. Oh yeah, well, guess what? So did Trent Dofer. This is the Trent Dofer model that the Browns are going to go with right now. And yeah, their defense is definitely good enough to play with any team in the league.

Late stage Peyton Manning.

Yeah, exactly like that Broncos team and the Browns. So today they beat the Steelers. They beat the Ravens and the Steelers in consecutive weeks for the first time in the entire history of their franchise.

Did you see now? This is where it's clearly bothering Steelers fans? And we do actually have Jersey Jerry here, which maybe we'll have him say a little something at the end here. Big Ben was live for this game. Oh, really, Big Ben was live for this game.

Who taught him how to go live on Instagram?

I don't know he was live for this game. No, he was on YouTube, I think with his podcast, so he was sitting in his basement.

There have been a few of those on this show. But yeah, I can imagine that bothering Big Ben. Because he absolutely loved to kill the Browns, it was his favorite thing ever, loved beating the shit out of them.

And just salty, like the immediate Oh well, this, oh, Browns, that's your Superbowl, that's the saltiest response you can give. And you know, like, it's almost, you know, on Twitter, it's like, Oh, you're triggered, you're mad. No, that is as mad as you can get.

It was like Big Ben putting a walking boot on his ego, saying that there was, Yeah. There's a lot to be happy about if you're a Browns fan, for sure.

You should enjoy this.

You can enjoy, you can think, all the thoughts you can think about. I give Browns fans permission to think like, maybe we could possibly win a Superbowl.

And I looked at their schedule and I think they probably have at least four more wins in the rest of their season, which would get them to 11 wins. They have the Broncos and the Rams coming up on the road. So you split that, that's a win. Jaguars and bears, you're going to beat the Bears, so that's two. And then you finish with Texans, Jets, Bengals, like, you could probably win two out of three of those.

I imagine that they probably will get to 11 wins, but I could see them getting to 12.

This is torture for Jerry. We're watching a bet lose, and we're also just like sucking the Browns dick right in front of him.

He took a terrible towel from the stands, gave them a browns.

Yeah, I mean, it's.

Yeah.

If the Steelers had lost but had outgained the Browns, it would have been so perfect. But we do have the Steelers. They have continued the streak, they have been outgained in every single game this year. Jerry, So where are you at?

Cooked? Watching that offense is just so painful. Yeah, no, it's tough. It's so painful. You have not had fun watching a Steelers game in years.

2018.

Yeah, also it was Mike Ford, Jake.

Oh.

Double fact check Yeah, wow, you got me.

Jalen Warren should get all the carries. He is the Steelers offense that the second half when he had that 75-yard touchdown run. He's so explosive. He's what you need for that offense because you need some type of spark and he's all spark. And they didn't use him at all on that last minute drive at all.

Yeah, and he had that great stiff arm today, too. He's without a doubt their best running back. We don't know if it's because he's actually that much faster than a normal player on the football field, or if he's just that much faster than Najee Harris. Yeah.

It also.

The game is just a slow war of attrition. To see if you can maybe finagle your way into having great field position for the very last drive of the game. And I love it.

I love it, I love those type of games. Alright. Next game Texans 21, Cardinals 16. We had C..J.

I like that, I like that mentality. well, that mentality is only good if you're good. yeah, that mentality sucks if you suck.

Double welcome to the N.F.L. moment. So he got absolutely smoked on a sack that I thought maybe he got concussed because he did have a couple really bad interceptions in the second half. I think maybe only one of them, no, maybe both of them were after that. But he also had his welcome to the NFL moment. Where you know you've arrived when we start making a big deal of your pregame routine. Mm-hmm.

An exercise you'd see Jameis Winston doing with his personal trainer and like three dogs in the backyard.

Yeah, or like a BDSM like dungeon.

Yeah, yeah, he was like practicing foul shots, yeah, he was like throwing balls into the kicking net, it was great.

Yeah, that's like the sign you've really made it when we start freaking out over your pregame routine. So for this Texans game, they did not play their A-plus game. And weirdly, I'm like, more confident in the Texans going forward because they proved that they can win games. When C.J. Stroud isn't perfect. Their defense kind of bowed up, stopped the Cardinals three times on fourth down in the second half. And I'm like, listen, when you can win, when you're not great, that's a sign of a really good team.

We said back in October that there's a chance that this team makes the playoffs. I'm almost ready to go one step further. I think that the Texans can win the division. Yeah, because they play the Jaguars next weekend, right?

They already beat them once.

They beat them one time, if they beat the Jaguars, they, I believe are in first place in that division.

Right now they're six and four, I think the Jaguars are seven and three, so yeah.

They would have the tiebreaker.

That's a big game.

The Texans could win that division. Like C.J. Stroud is that good.

Yeah, that's a big fucking game, I'm excited for that game. As for the Cardinals, I don't know. Kyler looked awesome at times and then he looked kind of short.

There's a lot of short guys on the Cardinals, that's kind of how they operate. Yeah, when he throws a pass to Rondell Moore, I think the average height on that play is five foot six.

Yeah, the Cardinals are officially, though, with Kyler Murray back, they are in full frisky can pick off anyone mode.

They look like a competent football team with Kyler's back, that's the best you can say about it. And again, this is as good as it gets for the Cardinals, much like your bears when you watch them. You want to see your quarterback play well, you want to see your team fight a little bit.

Exactly so, good job, Cardinals. That's a win-win all around, all right?

I like jersey juice, I like that phrase.

And he threw.

I call it tomito sauce, yeah.

He's, I mean, he played, he outplayed Sam Howell, he threw three touchdowns. He now has more touchdown passes than any QB playing in New Jersey this season. So that's Zach Wilson, obviously.

Again, he's got two starts and he has more touchdowns than Zach Wilson. Yeah, we started every game, except the first, in which he played like three and a half quarters, yes.

So Tommy DeVito might be a franchise quarterback.

We made Tommy DeVito look like a franchise quarterback today. I was not confident going into this game. The Commanders should not be favored by nine points against anybody ever. I'm going to say that in perpetuity, for the rest of the existence of the franchise, I was not confident.

It's beautiful.

Way, way later, after the game and then post-game. There was no water in the Commanders locker room, so players couldn't shower, so the Giants and Commanders locker rooms. They didn't have hot water at all, and the team said, we basically lost hot water. We tried to repair it, we couldn't fix it during the game.

So this is different than last week.

They're ass-ass. We lost to the worst team in football twice, I'm pretty sure that means we're the worst team in football.

Yeah, I guess my biggest question for you is. Sam Howell was bad today and it was up against a defense that had given up 79 points in the last two games. How do you feel about that? Was it?

Outplayed him. It was a big step backwards, but I still like Sam, I still think we focus on Sam, we build around Sam.

Hank, Yes, survivor. So you Hank was on a bye this week, Hank.

Stress free, yeah.

But you did have stress.

I did have stress, I was in a survivor league, there was like 30 people left and I picked. The commanders. Shouldn't have done that.

Yeah, no, the Giants were covering easily and winning the game easily. Pretty much the entire game. I think it was one point, it was like 14 12..

I think we just need to remember that this is the Washington Commanders that he played against. Yes, so keep that just in the back of your head when you're evaluating the TD film. No, I know.

But still, do you think he has?

I mean, he's going to have a chance. yeah, yeah, he's got a chance, he's got a roster spot.

He's got a roster spot as a backup.

Listen, Tommy, if you're in camp.

He's got the worst backup ever.

If you had looked at the last two games that he played, I would say like, definitely no. So now it's a conversation that we're having. Which QB in New York would you rather have? Josh Allen?

New Jersey You gotta say, New Jersey, New Jersey, yeah.

Tommy DeVito Easy.

It is, it is kind of funny that he has more touchdown passes than Daniel Jones. Who? how big was Daniel Jones? Contract? was? Like, one hundred and sixty million.

Yeah, and then he probably didn't need to shower after the game, probably goes to his mom's house to shower, right? yeah.

He did when you, when you understand what he like. I was reading more about it. He is right when he said that he probably couldn't find a house closer to the facility than his parents house.

And also in that part of the country, you're paying a shitload of money. So good for, I do not make fun of him at all for staying at home like I, that's the dream.

And now he has a quarterback. When we talked about Tommy DeVito being, you know, a future, you know, p...e. teacher or high school coach. Having the jersey in his lock in his office, being like, Hey, remember the time I went out and started against the Cowboys? Yeah, don't worry about the score.

Yeah, I actually reached out to my mom, too. She was texting me during the game, watching it. And she said, This team just frustrates me. They seem unable to take advantage of opportunity. They always screw it up.

Yeah, she does. That was. That was a tough game for the commander. So are we?

Yeah, we're out of the hunt. Yeah, we're firmly out of the hunt. I would listen if we if we steal one from the Cowboys.

Yeah, you got to steal them all.

I think it's all steal, it's a must steal. you must steal, all a must steal game, yeah.

Yeah, it might be worse.

We are ass ass.

Ass, ass.

We're going ass to ass right now, we're human, we're human centipeding our own butthole, damn.

That's tough. Shout out jersey juice. He's got a Revell probably already trademarked, that fucking slime ball.

Yeah, jersey juice, it's just it's just Red Bull vodka.

Jersey juice. Yeah, a little marinara on it, I like it, jersey juice.

Yep, that's what we do.

Jersey Yeah.

What kind of adversity is Tommy Devito facing Tommy Devito?

He did have to, he did have to be the quarterback at Syracuse and then transfer to Illinois. It feels like some adversity.

My guess is Tommy DeVito's had a pretty good life. No, that's right. Well, his parents look awesome, I know.

But again, quarterbacking for Syracuse is adversity.

McNabb did it.

Yeah, and then having to quarterback for Brett Bielma, some adversity.

That would be adversity.

There's some adversity there.

I bet you they had some great dinners, though, yeah.

For sure, OK. Next up Dolphins 20, Raiders 13..

So since Jalen Ramsey's back, they're averaging giving up only 13 points per game. Yeah, it's pretty good.

It unlocks everything for Vic Fangio.

And in a weird way, beating bad teams by, like, a very small margin. Makes me more likely to take you off the fraud watch than if you had blown them out, right?

Because then the hype gets so crazy, yeah.

Yeah, and won this game. I'd be like, Okay, big deal, you know what? I'll backtrack a little bit because I said against bad teams, this was actually the Dolphins first win against a 500 team this year.

Which is crazy.

So now the narrative is like the Dolphins finally beat a good team. The Chargers were 0-0..

Oh yeah, that's true. Thank you Jake.

Good point.

It's hard for the Raiders to be 5-5 and have a loss to the Bears. Yep, that's hard to do, yep, to be like, we got to find five wins other than this one.

Yeah, very impressive.

It's crazy.

He's unguardable, just purely unguardable. And if you're a Raiders fan, this is, I'm going to count this as a big time moral victory for the Raiders.

I think Antonio Pierce might have gotten a job today.

Because your defense played good enough where you can be, like, we held the dolphins to what? 20 points? Yeah, like, that's something you can hang your hat on a little bit. And if you're a fan of an N.F.L. team that's got a good defense and you might be looking for a new coach. All you have to do is say, like, Well, we're just a quarterback away.

Yeah, oh, breaking news. Oh, you're still in the hunt, you're still in the hunt, in the hunt.

Let me wait, I got to get a picture of this.

You're still in the hunt. Oh, I missed it. Four and seven in the hunt, that was perfect, four and seven in the hunt.

Okay, wait, my mom actually just updated me right now about the commanders. This is good, she said. I really don't know.

She texted you at 11 p.m.

Yeah, she knows ball. Damn, yeah, she's right.

In the back in the hunt. So back to what you were saying about the Dolphins. Like, winning a game close against a bad team, maybe the Raiders aren't a terrible, terrible team.

They're not, they were a bad team, they were a bad team, but McDaniel's a coach. Yeah, right.

This was the first time the Dolphins won a game this year where they scored 20 points or less. So that is a sign that things are changing. Where they can win a game ugly in a different style, where they don't have to be like a front runner and just run and shoot all over your face.

They're figuring out ways to win.

I think the dolphins are like, Yeah, I'm. I'm close to getting them off the fraud watch. They're on the fraud watch, they're on the fraud watch. But it's for a good reason.

Yep.

I want to take them off. That's why the Broncos are trying to drive with a minute 45 left to try to win this game.

I think they can do it.

I don't think they can do it. Straw poll.

I think they can win the game, I think they can win the game, and I think they can win the bet.

We need to pass interference in the end zone, that's the only play. I wonder if the Broncos will try to kick a field goal here, cause that's kind of been their strategy. All night is just out of bounds. You didn't get it.

Goddamn this in the hunk graphic. Yeah, oh, you heard me. I was ready to move on.

It just, yeah, it just teases you.

I was ready to move on like 30 seconds ago and now I'm right. When I thought I was going, they bring me back in.

They got to get p right now. He just fumbled, got to put them in the dog house, no more snaps for him.

He likes to go out to dinner and likes to take people to the orb around Vegas a little bit.

You know what, Mark Davis? Here's what we'll do. Since you love to wine and dine. People, take them to PF Changs, take them to the ORB, PFT. And I will absolutely interview for the head coaching job at the Las Vegas Raiders.

Or, if he wants, we can be the search firm. That's that's where the real money. Of course, I would love to be the head of a coaching search firm.

Ernie Of course, he gets paid a million bucks, and he just is like, I'm going to call John Fox. Oh, okay, coach hired.

You just, you just look up coaches that have been fired in the last 10 years, preferably friends.

Did you find your friend?

Preferably, a coach that's been fired twice in the last 10 years. Like, get a reach red in there. You give them a list of names, you go golfing with half of them. And then you're like, Okay, well, we're just going to hire the guy you wanted to hire anyways.

What you say is, uh, to, to the GM and the front office, the owner, you say, listen. What you guys need right now is stability. You need a guy who's done it before, not won a Super Bowl but just been in the NFL for a while. You need stability, you need a professional organization, so here you go.

Yeah, that's what you should do.

We need, we need to, just, we need to calm, calm the seas, we need to just be on a steady course. Stability is the most important. You don't want one of these young guns that might end up being like an incredible coach like Kyle Shanahan. What has he proved?

You know, it'd be great if they brought back Mike Shanahan, former coach of the Raiders, before he got his name.

Yeah.

He got traded away. Um, that would be interesting because you could sell. Mark Davis. On the fact that if you want the Mike Shanahan, all the fruits of the coaching tree, like, look at all the coaches. You got to go to the roots and you got to get Mike in the building. And then in like 10 years, start hiring all of his assistants to be the head coach, and then you'll be good.

And then it will happen again. Um, all right, let's take a break. We'll do a couple ads, uh, and maybe the Broncos will score and win this game. We'll. We'll talk about that after these ads before we get back to the games. I want to.

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All right, while we were doing ads. Russell Wilson just drove the Broncos down the field for a go-ahead touchdown with Cortland Sutton. That was an incredible drive by Russ.

It was a nice pass.

Nice pass.

We got good Russ back officially.

Also Javante Williams. They used him in the two-point conversion play and it didn't work. So that makes me feel a little better.

It would have been the worst if he had gotten the two-point conversion. Because who cares?

Yeah, exactly. Even like, Oh, that was a goal line play, but we never got to goal line, that was. Russell Wilson might be back.

He's back to, I guess, the better version of Russell that we saw at the end of his Seahawks career. He's not like, back back to old old Russ, you know, he's like, good Russ, not great Russ.

And again, it's more like long-term picture, where this is now not a situation where you're saying to yourself, we have to eat all this money and cut him because it's untenable. The Broncos are going to be 5-5 if they can close this out because Josh Dobbs still has a minute left, so this game is far from over.

There might be too much time for Dobbs, though. We got a minute, three seconds.

Yeah, I do think there might be too much time for Dobbs. All right, let's keep going and we'll update as this goes all right next up. Oh, also, Jerry just got up and walked out, probably already in his car, probably already halfway back to Arlington Heights. I like the one nice thing about Jerry, like he does it well, when he knows he's out, he's out.

He's gone, he doesn't linger.

He just is like, I'm gone.

How much money did Jerry lose tonight?

Zero dollars.

Okay, that's what I thought, yeah.

Although he has, I gave him a loan because fuck banks and fuck interest rates on credit card charges, so I helped him get out of credit card debt. So if this had won, I was going to wipe away his loan, okay, so he would have won, he didn't lose anything.

Right?

Except for the fact that he would have had his loan wiped away.

Which would have been very nice.

It would have been very nice for him, but we'll keep shooting. It's gambling, it happens. What are you going to do?

This is the same conversation we were having last year, though, too. I know, no, I know.

What's the common denominator? It's good, Matt Iberflus is a bad coach.

It's good, though, at least at this point, we know that Matt Iberflus is not going to be around next year.

There were rumors that he was maybe going to save his job because the defense has been playing a lot better. That needs to just be snuffed out. He's a loser of a coach, he coaches games to lose.

This was the first time in N.FL history that a team had a plus-three turnover margin 40 minutes time of possession and loss. It never happened. Going back to 1932, teams were 48-0 until the Bears did that. Today, this is his masterpiece.

This is his masterpiece. And remember? The Bears had earlier this year a game where it was split time of possession 30-30 but a plus-five turnover margin against the Saints and lost that game. Matt Iberflus is a loser of a head coach, he needs to be gone. I agree with you, though. It is kind of deja vu where it's like, are the bears just going to stick in this land of? Just like? Every time they lose? I'm like, it's okay. Draft picks.

What do you think people called it before the movie Groundhogs Day came out?

I don't know, that's a good question.

I don't know, I think they just invented a new word for it, a new explanation for it. But yeah, it is the same conversation we had last year. But it's also completely logical on your end to say it's good for the team. If we get a better draft pick, it's good for the team. If the defense plays well, it's good for the team. If Justin Fields looks competitive, these are all bonuses.

I'd say the biggest thing is you have to maybe win a game in September. Winning games in September might break you from this cycle where you're so quickly saying, draft pick.

It would also help if you won a divisional game.

Yeah, we don't win those.

I think since Ibraflux said, was it him or Poles? That said, we're going to take the division, we're not going to give it back. He doesn't win them. Matt Ibraflux has not won a divisional game since he's been head coach.

He's leading in all of them and guess what, we're playing the Vikings on Monday night. It'll probably be the same thing where they look good for a few quarters and they go into turtle mode. Yeah, whatever, I'm in Groundhog's day, it's fine.

That is actually the right response. After this game. It does sound like loser talk, but guess what? When you lose, you might as well get some advantage afterwards. This is like the most productive loss that you can possibly have. Your coach is one step closer to being fired and you do get a better draft.

I had another moment the other day where it just clicked on me because our good friend Kyle Long. He didn't have his credit card so he couldn't stay in the hotel. When he came to Chicago, came to the office, so he stayed in my house. And when my son woke up and walked down the stairs, there's this behemoth of a man standing at the bottom of the stairs. He's like, What the hell? And I was like, This is my friend Kyle. He played for the Bears.

Listen, he's going to be in for a life of pain. You got to get started early on the spin zones.

When losses are wins, you win a lot.

Yeah, yeah, you almost never lose, actually.

As for the Lions?

Yeah, I was going to say, if you're a Detroit fan, you probably had your diaper on today. This is a full diaper game. I'm going to give this two diapers on a scale of zero to two and a half diapers. It was bad, it was bad for the most part of the game.

That so, Jared was not good today. For the first 56 minutes of the game, he kind of looked lost. He was turning the ball over, he was rushed in the pocket.

Um, so yeah, it was just it was about to recover that for a touchdown. Yeah, no doubt about it.

But that the Lions are flirting with stuff right now, I don't know.

You know what, though? You could also say the lines are learning how to win. It's in true Michigan form. They're battling through a whole bunch of adversity that they created for themselves.

Okay, so I think this Lion's team, this offense is very, very good. I have concerns about the defense.

The Chiefs, Yeah.

When they didn't have Kelsey, they have to they they. They're going to have a game coming up. Uh, let me look at their schedule real quick, where they're going to have to beat. Or, sorry, they're eight and two. Um, I apologize. People are going to definitely get some tweets right there now you've caught up.

How sick is it, though? If you're a Lion's fan that you get to enjoy this Thanksgiving game, yeah, if that's awesome.

No, look, they're going to go to the playoffs and I do think they can win playoff games. I just their defense does make people nervous. The Bears were able to move the ball very well on them. Yeah, they had like, 25, uh, 25 first downs.

That's a ton of first time.

I don't think we had 25 first downs. Either way, Lions fans know where they stand. That, like, this season is awesome, you're building something awesome.

Here's another crazy stat here, down by more than 10 points, or I guess 10 points or more. With less than five minutes ago, teams were, oh, an 84, make that one in 84, per the CBS postgame show Whoa.

They're good football teams and they're going to be in the playoffs and like, I'm excited for that. That's the fan bases, those two fan bases deserve to have some type of happiness. And have, like, be able to wake up on Sundays and be like, I'm excited to watch my football team play. Those are the little joys that make it all worth it.

If you have, if you live in a super cold climate like Detroit, I guess Cleveland is probably pretty bad weather too. You get a lot of that lake effect snow if you live in a place like that in the winter time. You have to have one sports team that you're excited about, you have to. That's the only way that you can get through those types of winners.

And Jameer Gibbs, like, they have so many weapons, David Montgomery runs so hard.

And their offensive line is getting healthy, too.

That was perfect that Dave Montgomery scored the game winning touchdown. Yeah, let him walk for nothing.

Yep.

For nothing, Uh, all right, wait. So the game just ended. The Broncos won. We got to talk about the Broncos real quick.

They're in the hunt.

Like, this is three wins in a row, or, sorry, four wins in a row, two of them coming against the Bills and the Chiefs. And a really red hot Vikings team. Next week's going to be awesome, they're playing the Browns, so that's going to be a huge. Whoever wins that game is I. The Broncos still have a lot of work to do to get back in the playoff picture, uh, or like to get firm in the playoff picture, but the Broncos might be good.

I mean, I'm going to continue to make fun of Russell Willis. Oh, for sure, it gives me so much joy to do that. And if Russell Wilson has a problem with it, then he's actually the hater for making me not have as much fun making fun of him.

Dude, the AFC is so loaded, it's crazy like if Joe Burrow didn't get hurt, there's 11 teams that all could have. I mean, the Colts are sitting in the in the ninth spot right now, it's nuts how good the AFC is.

They stink.

All right, let's talk about it. Happy for Broncos fans, though, your season is completely salvaged. And, like Sean Payton, uh, better coach than Nathaniel Hackey.

I would say that that if the season had started four weeks ago, we'd be talking about the Broncos as being one of the best teams in the entire NFL.

4-0 in the last four, yeah.

They are playing good enough to be like, well, they've beaten some good teams. We think, um, they are like, amongst the elite class of the AFC. But unfortunately for them, the first month and a half of the season happened.

Jake Next time we have an N.FL player on the show. I would like to remind me to ask them this question because I think that there's a maybe some truth in this theory of mine. When you get, when your team is bad. And you're getting closer to the trade deadline and they're all these rumors that you're selling everyone. And you're basically like, punting on the whole season to then get past the trade deadline and be like, here's who we have, let's go win some football games.

And true to the Sean Payton method of just negging all your players. He probably came back to him and said to a certain select group of them, like nobody. We tried to trade some of you, nobody wanted you guys. So we're just going to roll the dice with the people that we have.

All right, next game the Packers 23, Chargers 20. Uh, let's talk about the Packers real quick, and then we have a lot to talk about with the Chargers.

Are we past the point where we can say that the, uh? The chargers are even, like, overrated? No, I think they just suck now, like I don't expect more from the Chargers than what they're showing me. They, I think. This was Jordan Love's first 300 yard passing game.

It was the first time the Packers had a 300 yard passing game in, like, 20, 22 games or something. It'd been a long time.

And, uh, you can stop asking Brandon Staley if he's going to stop calling the plays on defense. Cause he snapped at a reporter. We had, yeah, we had coach snap alert, uh, in the post game, where he was like, stop asking, I'm going to stop you right now, don't ask me that question anymore.

He, it feels like it's happening soon. Um, more concerning for the Chargers than Brandon Staley snapping, which, like, of course, he's going to snap because he is a defensive coach and his defense fucking sucks. Uh, is Justin Herbert? He is showing early onset. Rivers, Uh. He had a moment where he, like, threw the ball down after it was either delay, a game or something. And like, stomped. And it was almost exactly like Rivers had thrown a little temper tantrum. And I do not blame him whatsoever. If you didn't watch this game and you want to be one of those, Justin Herbert sucks, guys, go for it.

So he is, uh, going into today, he was 29 and 29 as a starter, perfectly, even the Chargers were 482 and 482 and 11 all time going into today. It is it is early onset rivers.

And we'll always flash to a point where you're like, Ooh, watch out for the chargers.

Yeah, but now now that's what I'm saying. I don't think you can say that the chargers are underachieving anymore. No, I think the chargers are just the chargers. They're just the C words.

This was like, I went in this game and I my entire analysis. I think we talked about it on Friday, it was like the Chargers shouldn't be three point favorites on the road to anyone. Because the Chargers will always find a way to make the game close and and figure out a way to lose close when they should win and they should have won this game. If you don't have all these drops, fumbles and everything. The Chargers have six losses this year. five of those losses are by three points or less.

Yeah, I would say the Chargers should always be two and a half point underdogs to everybody. Yeah, no matter who it is, and it'll probably end up 50 50 on either side.

They always do that, uh, someone, someone will make the graphic, which I love, where it's like, if you flip all the one possession games, what would your record be? I feel like every year if you flip all the one possession games. For the Chargers, they would be the best team in the league. They're like the uh, bizarro world upside down world of last year's Vikings, where they are in one score games and they always lose them.

Or the Steelers, Yeah, steelers this year. uh, yeah, the Chargers stink. they just what a, what a. I feel bad for Chargers fans.

It also we you didn't realize, I didn't realize it either. Um, the Packers do, too, it's like the gold package. They call it. Two games a year where they, uh, sell a bunch of tickets, cause it takes forever to be on the Packers season ticket list. So they sell a bunch of tickets to people who are on the list, uh, like in the Milwaukee area.

Yeah, well, yeah, congrats if you're a Chargers fan that that went to this game. I hope you had a good time at the cathedral. I do apologize for saying that they weren't going to travel to this one.

It's chargers, Panthers, yeah, is the least traveled to game, or even Panthers chargers.

Yeah, uh, Chargers, Falcons. Probably. You have to really take your pick of any N.F.C. South team besides the Saints, yeah.

Yeah, exactly like you wouldn't. No one's like, I want to spend a whole weekend. No offense, Charlotte's actually a beautiful city, but it's not the stadium.

Isn't it? I mean, they moved the Bahamas Bowl to Charlotte. Yeah, that's how impressive it is.

That's how beautiful.

Great, great winter time City, yeah.

Uh, yeah, they moved the MAUI to Asheville, so North Carolina gets it all.

That's right.

Uh, okay, next game. Cowboys 33, Panthers 10 I don't know. Cowboys deserve credit for, like, beating the shit out of the Panthers.

So, uh, per Jay Glazer, front of the program, Frank Reich's seat is hot, and it is in fact the hottest in the NFL. I would say I would put Staley's seat, it should be hotter than Frank Reich's seat. But when you add in the David Tepper effect, I was going to say the chargers are cheap.

The Panthers David Tepper It feels like he will fire everyone, even if he has to pay them to go away.

I would love to see how many, how many like one and done coaches they can do in perpetuity, like keep this thing moving, let's just get one coach per year. Until you strike gold, it's, uh, it's not a good time to be a Panthers fan.

Dax playing well, though, you have to say Dax playing well. He remember the famous quote He's like, you won't see 10 interceptions out of me, he's only at six. You got to give that credit.

Yeah, and give credit to Jimmy Johnson for being, uh, the most patient person in show business for the last, like 30 years. He got it. He had a little pregame meeting with Jerry Jones, who said, We're going to put you into the Ring of Honor this year. We should have done this a long time ago.

It is funny that Jerry Jones had, I guess you count, Bill Parcells as well in this category. But so he had one coach that would push back on him, and he had all the success.

Yeah.

Maybe there was something very switzer, maybe there's something to be said for that, like, maybe you want a guy who will say, Hey, Jimmy or Jerry, No.

Yeah.

And like, I'm the boss, you're not the boss. Just a thought.

I just love the idea that Jerry Jones still, he grinds tape. Yeah, Jerry Jones is at home right now, probably with like, three fingers of Johnny Walker blue. He's smelling his shoes and he's watching like Arkansas game tape to figure out which offensive lineman to take two rounds too high.

He's I respect draft team.

Yeah, I respect scouting, I respect the hell out of it, cause he does. Actually. It's not like Tepper, who just kind of parachutes in and says, I want this guy.

Uh, Bryce young. I had two more points in this game. Bryce Young through another pick. Six to Duran Bland, who has his fourth pick six of the year. uh, also drawn Bland. He has started 22 regular season games.