NFL Week 15, Bills Statement Win, Lions Are Back And Kadarius Toney May Be A Sleeper Cell Sent To Destroy The Chiefs

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We have the Lions back on track, the Bears Gateway, Game Gateway closed. And we're going to talk about everything from this weekend of football. We got also who's back in the week fastest two minutes. Summer is the best way to run the way.

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Welcome to part of my take. Today is Monday, December 18th, Week 15..

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I'm not gonna whoop, I have no whoops, give me a whoop, Max.

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We start in Detroit, where Dan didn't hear no camp bell and the Lions got off the mat in a big way, Sam LeBron Porta said. Not one, not two, but three touchdowns as Detroit went up and down the field on the Broncos defense. Sean Connery Payton said he doesn't think there's anything wrong with hitting your quarterback with a verbal tirade. For the whole world to see as he screamed at Russell Wilson for not holding on to the rock, reminding everyone that there are no untouchables going into next year. Lions 42, Broncos 17..

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What? We go out to the Queen city of Cincinnati, where the Bengals.

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Host the Vikings. And in a tribute to our Spanish-speaking friends, we're going to spice this up with some sin. Ah, men, big dick. Nick Mullins is taking over the starting job and he found a connection, throwing some mighty ducks to Jordan Bombay Addison. The Bengals offense responded, giving their fans a heart attack, throwing a TD to supercharged Panera Ice T Higgins, Very cool.

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Jake Browning and his roster of mister positions bent the Vikings defense over and the defense took the tush push into the a-gap. Seven minutes and Evan McPherson stepped up big. And the Bengals are making out like bandits, winning 27-24 in Cleveland, where the Chicago bears once again.

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Blow a 10-point fourth quarter lead, leaving fans wanting to blow something else out, their brains out of the back of their heads. It was Alex Omari Cooper using the Gluck Gluck 9000 to suck the life out of the bears yet again, as Chicago tried to make a last second. Hail. Mary only to have Darnell, you never give me your mooney, you only put the bears back in the funny papers. As he watched the ball drop out of his hands for a loss. Browns 20, Bears 17 Up to the frozen Tundra, where Tucker.

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Carlson Kraft and Aaron Alex Jones were trying to move the Packers in the right direction. Telling the Bucks t I'll beat your goddamn ass, you son of a bitch, you piece of shit, you fucking goddamn fuckers. But that didn't deter the Bucks offense as co-queefed squeak went out and Mike Bob Evans pulled out his big meaty sausage on the way to the end zone. Folks, have you heard this one before? They're saying it's no longer Lambeau Field and now Mayfield. As Baker owned the Packers on Sunday Bucks 34, the Green Bay Packers 20. Okay, we head.

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Now, down to South Florida, where we have our correspondent memes on the sideline memes, we head down to Miami, where the clock struck midnight. On the Solorella Story, Zach Wilson suffered a head injury from a chub nailing models did his best Leo impression and fucked Zach Wilson before he turned 25..

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Country roads take me home to the place we belong. Out of the playoffs. Dolphins 30, Jets Zero. Okay, we head out to Foxborough with our friend Henry Lockwood on.

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Field pinball in Foxborough. Bailey. Mbappe was in his onion bag early, getting on the board early with a connection to Hunter Henry Winkler, who found a hole in the Chiefs defense. Patrick Berg and the Holmes couldn't hit a cow's backside with a banjo early, throwing two interceptions, including one right out of right off of Canary's Tony Soprano's hands. Who, if it were up to chiefs, would end up swimming with the fishes.

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After that performance, Kevin Kamala Harris said We did it, Joe after rushing in for a touchdown, but it was not enough to steal the game from the Chiefs. Chiefs win a lot to a little. That was a good, a good announcement.

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47-17.

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Announcement I liked it, I liked it. Good job, boom.

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Thanks, boom. We go out to Los Angeles, where Pucamon go and Pikachuper Cup, saw all those balls and said, we're gonna catch them all. Meanwhile, the Washington Commanders played like absolute ash Cameron Three, Cheeseman and Bong Rivera helped their team get really high draft picks. And I haven't seen a blue dressed opponent put a stain on a Washington commander's legacy like this since Monica Lewinsky.

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At the end of the game, the commies mount a furious comeback and with damn near five minutes left and the ball at the one yard line. Oh, for the wrongest time. oh for the wrongest time, I intend to hold, else for the wrongest time. Ron Rivera is an insane person who should not be allowed within 500 yards of a.

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Football field losing to the Rams 28-20 to Buffalo, where James Cookout served up all the yards at a very reasonable price. As a Cowboys defense looked like a giant drive-through, Dak Wilson Prescott struggled to get the offense going all Sunday and in an out of character experience was seen running from a cougar at all over all game. And Sean McDermott told his team they could learn a lot from Dr.

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Robert Oppenheimer and the creation of the atomic Bomb, and how to stick it to McCarthyism.

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And teach no one circles the wagons like the Buffalo bills. You were supposed to say, Yeah, boom, teach.

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Yeah, boom, no one circles the wagons like the Buffalo Bills Bills 31, Cowboys 10..

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Standing on a corner, Jameis Winston down in no luck. Such a fine sight to see. It's pregame and the Giants are worn. He packed his own bag. And you know, it's Louis. Come on, Devito, you're getting beat, though. Don't listen to the haters who call you Guido.

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Sights go marching 24-6.

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I apologize to everyone, I'm losing my voice. It happens once a year, It's very frustrating. I don't drink, I don't party.

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It's all the coke. No, I don't do anything but fucking work and parent and not sleep. And then I wake up one day a year being like, Where the fuck did my voice go?

1Speaker 1
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Quick question What does work entail? Does it entail talking? A lot? Yeah, that might be it.

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Yeah, and not sleeping is probably not great, so fighting, I'm gonna fight. I apologize to everyone. If I wake up tomorrow and I still can't speak, I'll shut it down for a whole day. We'll take a day off.

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Shut it down for a whole day. Yeah, no hank.

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Clear my schedule, Hank is eyeing that seat. You hear that Hank is eyeing that seat. Clear my.

2Speaker 2
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Whole goddamn schedule, it's so hard right now. Well cleared. I'll just have to be in mine, I'll have to be like. I feel like Darko didn't talk a lot.

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Hank is thinking about sitting in.

1Speaker 1
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That seat taking over, I think Hank is like, kind of, no, he doesn't. no, he's not, he's like.

2Speaker 2
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Filled the Billy roll. No, no, no, no, there's one person who's filled the Billy Roll, sitting right there, Max.

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No, Jake would love to sit in this seat, he would love to sit in this seat. He's got his voice, it's your guy's show.

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No, I'm just fucking with you, Jake. Yeah, I apologize to everyone. We're going to get through it, though. Week 15..

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Great week of football We're great week of football. We are watching the third quarter of Jags Ravens right now as Trevor Lawrence finally gets them off or on the board with an awesome touchdown pass. They had two missed field goals.

1Speaker 1
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In the first half, one of which hit the upright, they had a fumble inside. Was it inside the 20??

2Speaker 2
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You can't even say that was a fumble, he just dropped the ball, he got scared, I think he got.

1Speaker 1
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Spooked when he was about to get tackled? Honestly, that's what I would do if I was a quarterback.

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Yeah, I just be like, he just was like, now I have it, now I don't. It wasn't like someone hit it.

1Speaker 1
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He just dropped the ball. It could have been technically considered an illegal forward pass, the way that he just like, dropped it forward, a little shovel, pass forward. And then, yeah, they had. They had the debacle at the end of the half, where the Jaguars are just allergic to the end zone until they they hit that deep strike. But I have no idea what Doug Peterson was thinking at the end of that half.

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No, it was a it was all top well, second to Ron Rivera worst clock.

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Management Well, that was. That can also be Trevor Lawrence like, you gotta know situationally to spike the ball or throw it to the end zone. Yeah, yeah.

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But yeah, we'll, we'll update that game once it's over. But we had this week the return of Saturday football. So we're going to start with Saturday. We'll go in chronological order on Saturday, then we'll hop into Sunday, but Saturday football, Saturday NFL. It sneaks up on us every year. It's always a nice little treat. But there is that moment like, I don't know what you were doing on Saturday. But like Bengals, Vikings, I had to be like, I had to kind of get everyone in my household understanding, like, Hey, there's NFL about to be on.

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Yeah, just so you know, like, I know this is not normal, but like, dad's going to go and watch some NFL right now. I did basically what you have to do.

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Is you have to give up your Friday night? I went to a holiday market on Friday night that I was going to go to on the Saturday to buy Christmas gifts. Which is not how I would ideally like to spend my my Friday evening. So you get those chores out of the way on on Friday, and then you can be a total piece of shit all day long on Saturday, right? I? My only request to the NFL.

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And I remember last year the game that was on that Saturday was the Jeff Saturday game where it was the Colts against the Vikings. The comeback, where they had the historic comeback, which was awesome game. But I w I would prefer if those games don't start until maybe a little bit later on the afternoon. Do, like the weird time that you start the game, that you kick off, like on a like Thanksgiving, where you maybe kick off at like two 30, kick off at like three, 30 or something like that for the first game. Give me a give me some time to, like, be a human being on Saturday before I have to just be, like, physically, part of my couch for the next two days.

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Yes, and it was also, I mean, bowl games, college basketball games, it was. I love this time of year. It's like, what do I want to do? I want to sit on my couch and watch?

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Everything, I'll tell you what this game was, though, the Bengals, Vikings, this was max case in point for you. Um, this is what the Eagles need to show the competition committee to be like, you should not be in the tush push because it's not an automatic first down for all. Turns out that when you have a, uh, a player, that's that weighs probably about as much as Hank.

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Lining up behind center, trying to push your quarterback forward doesn't really work that.

2Speaker 2
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Well, he also fumbled the snap. Yeah, that also didn't help, but yeah, Max is blown up.

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Max is so annoying that every time the tush push doesn't work, he just goes on a tirade where he's like, thought it was automatic? You guys do it the best, that's, I don't. I don't think anyone disagrees. The Eagles do it the best. But yes, that was a tough, tough look. This was also a game that we had, the Vikings.

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It felt like they completely squandered an opportunity to to, like, get even further into the playoff picture because they were up 17 three. With like four minutes left. In the third quarter, they had completely confused Jake Browning for two and a half quarters. And then the Viking and then the Bengals come roaring back. T Higgins with one of the coolest catches ever. When he when. He caught it with his back to the end zone and was able to twist the ball around the defender. And it was just like, time and time again, the Vikings, like I know Nick Mullins, looked better than Josh Dobbs. Because everyone does, but those two interceptions, especially the one where he's falling to the ground.

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That was so funny. That was when making, wanting to make a play goes wrong, like there's points where it's like, Hey, dude, it's okay to.

1Speaker 1
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Take a sack. Well, he couldn't believe that. It got picked off after he got swung to the ground and he tries to just throw the ball away. And it ended up being. I think we'll have to get some sort of stat like Amazon web Services or whatever Jeff Bezos establishing is. Tell me if that was the shortest thrown interception of all time, because it might've been, I think it was like a two foot pass.

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Mullins was trying to throw it away, and then, as Mullins is getting up, he's motioned to the referee. That wasn't a fumble. I passed it, I threw that.

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That's like, No, no, no, it's like, no. It actually hit the guy in his face, then in his dick, then his knee, then he caught it. It was like, Oh, holy shit.

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Here's a football, I have a football, yeah.

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Just like I'm going to, I'm going to go down trying to make a play, sometimes, just don't, don't make that play. But yeah, that was. I walked away from it being like, Well, so the Bengals are very much live for the playoffs. are they in the playoffs right now?

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I think they would be, yes. I think there was six seat and the Vikings that they should have won that game, they weren't able to close it out. But now I'm, I'm back to being like Bengals.

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Team of Destiny Nick Foles Jake Browning Like that first half, Jake Browning looked bad. You're like, Oh shit, this is why he's the backup. And then the second half, he kind of woke up and started figuring some stuff out. And the Bengals are, I can't believe that the Bengals are, like, actually, kind of a.

1Speaker 1
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Scary team, they're feisty right now. They'd be the sixth seed, they would travel to Kansas City. The Jabroni mayor of Cincinnati would get get his chance at revenge.

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They also Travis Kelsey.

2Speaker 2
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They also had a bunch of injuries again, they get injuries every game they do. Yeah, I actually.

1Speaker 1
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I came away like, not so much impressed with Nick Mullins. I think I just forgotten about Nick Mullins. Because every time he plays, I'm like, Oh yeah, this dude's got a little shit to him, he's got a little gunslinger at him. Yeah, and and and the the throw that he had to Jordan Addison, which was the all time.

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No, no, no, no, no, yes. Throw where he, just like, whipped it across his body. Let Jordan make a play on it. Those are the plays that you get with Big Dick Nick.

2Speaker 2
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Yeah, the Nick Mullins is a great case of, if you just take out the two red zone interceptions, he had a great game. Yeah, and I feel like you can say that almost every time that that one.

1Speaker 1
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Was kind of a fluke, kind of a fluke interception. But yeah, he will. He will make a couple of plays where. That's why I think he's like the he's the ultimate like backup gunslinger, right? Yeah, I don't think a team will ever commit to Nick Mullins as being like the guy ever, but he's fun. At least you'll say this about Nick. When he plays, you want to watch the game because he's going to do some crazy shit.

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That's awesome, he's going to do some crazy shit, that's stupid, yeah, and I.

2Speaker 2
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Like Nick Mullins, I think I think he might be a listener to the show. I, we got to get Nick Mullins. Like, Uh, either an ice bath for his face, or like one of those, like the things that you.

1Speaker 1
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Rub the chicks rub. Yeah, he was looking a little puffy. I rubbed. I rubbed one out the other day with one of those ice things on my face, okay?

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Yeah, no, no, I actually rubbed two out, cause it was both my eyes. Those are very they work. They weren't a lot of cosmetic changes, right? No, I had. I had one in my freezer and I was like, you know what?

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I had a couple of drinks on Friday night at the holiday festival. I'm going to rub my face out and it felt awesome. Yeah, I feel.

2Speaker 2
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Like, I highly recommend that. I feel like Nick Mullins might've just continued with his holiday plans of, like, drinking on like a random Thursday night or whatever. Yeah, not realizing how to start an N.FL game.

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But I do, I do like watching him play he. He raises the ceiling for what the Vikings offense was with Josh Dobbs, who was pathetic the last couple of times. Yeah, that.

1Speaker 1
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Was that was pretty bad the last couple of weeks watching Josh Dobbs? He, you know what Nick Mullins has? It's not like resting bitch face, it's resting stung by bees face, yeah.

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It always like, I think it's red and swollen a little. He got hit by a shovel. Yeah, he looks.

2Speaker 2
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Like, he looks like the wet bandits, Yeah, you know, like the iron came down and hit him when.

1Speaker 1
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He was walking up the stairs. The facility. Yeah, but yeah, to your point about the Bengals being like a team of destiny? They definitely believe like they, they think that they can win. Yeah, that's, that's half the battle.

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Like, they're not, they're, they're fighting hard every single game.

2Speaker 2
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I think they have tiebreakers over, like everyone too. I think they. They beat the. I think they beat the. Oh no, they lost the Texas, but they beat the Bills. Um, this is tiebreaker season. They beat the Colts who will be right around them, yeah.

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The Bank AFC There's no rhyme like the AFC playoffs. I will not be shocked pretty much with any team that gets to the Superbowl at this point. Yeah, you could, you could say what team would shock you?

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Uh, the colts make into the Superbowl, but that will most likely be like, if that's not the colts, if the seven seat is the bills, and it's ravens, dolphins, chiefs.

1Speaker 1
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Jaguars, Browns, Bengals, Bills. I think I feel like I'd be most shocked out of all those teams.

2Speaker 2
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To see the Jaguars make it, yeah, but like, they're, it's crazy. How wide open the AFC playoffs?

1Speaker 1
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Have become it is, yeah, so the Bengals, what's the spread? Guess the spread.

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Next week, they're traveling to Pittsburgh. Bengals at the Steelers, I'm going to say Steelers minus one. I think I think it might be Bengals minus one.

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Steelers look real bad. what do we got? We've got Bengals minus two and a half, so your your formula says, take the Steelers, yeah.

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Well, all right, so let's.

2Speaker 2
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Just segue to it. Because the Colts 30, Steelers 13, that was the second game, um, the Steelers were actually up 13. Nothing in this game. And Michael Pittman got hurt and Zach Moss got hurt. And you would have been like, this is. This was, uh, finding out Santa Claus isn't real. Because this was the death of the Mike Tomlin spot. Mike Tomlin had two back-to-back games as a home favorite by like, almost a touchdown.

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Both times, loses outright has to rally the troops. They're underdogs, they couldn't look worse. This was the moment that you're like, Mike Tomlin will find a way to have the Steelers win this game. And it started going as planned to with the punt block up 13. Nothing.

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And then it just the Colts went. Ripped off 30 straight points, the Steelers didn't even come close to scoring again. MIKE TOMLiN It's this actually the first time I've been like, it might be over. it might be over for Mike Tomlin. In Pittsburgh, it was a bad.

1Speaker 1
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Bad showing in the second half. T.J. Watt looked really good considering he was coming off a concussion, or, excuse me, coming off definitely not having a concussion. Where he had to change his visor to be the dark tinted. You look good in the first half, you look good in the first half, but then the Colts just ran the fuck out of it. They emasculated.

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They ran the fuck out of it and you see the stats that they put up with, like a three headed monster in the backfield. No Jonathan Taylor for the Colts. And you think, maybe maybe Jim Irsay shouldn't have gone and paid all that money to Jonathan Taylor. Because he felt guilty about flying a whale across the country and spending more money on that than on the running back, well, because the whale died, he didn't have to spend all that money, yeah.

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But it was a bad. You think he had that money laying around because the whale died? Yeah, like domino effect, the whale died, correct?

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Jonathan.

2Speaker 2
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Taylor not paid. There's someone some pipsqueak with, like a pocket protector and glasses, walked into Irsay's office. One day. It was like, Uh, Mr. Irsay, the whale died.

00:22:28.48 – 00:22:35.28

So by my calculations, we have a $40 million that have just opened up. Your sick whale budget just became completely.

1Speaker 1
00:22:35.28 – 00:22:44.30

Free right now, so you can distribute that as you see fit. Yeah, I don't. Irsay was like, at the time, he was getting bad PR because of the Zach Taylor thing or not.

00:22:44.30 – 00:22:53.26

The, uh, the Jonathan Taylor thing. And he said to himself, You know what? We'll fix this. I've got just the right idea. I'll get some good PR going by flying the whale and everybody would be like, Thank you.

2Speaker 2
00:22:53.26 – 00:22:57.72

Mr. Irsay. And then instead, the reaction was, How can you fly a whale like? Hank has been talking.

1Speaker 1
00:22:57.72 – 00:23:07.04

About for a while. Yeah, it's impossible to fly a whale. But yeah, the moral of this story was, uh, the Colts can run the damn football when they run the damn ball, then nothing else opens up.

2Speaker 2
00:23:07.04 – 00:23:19.62

I don't even know if it's the Colts can run the damn football, it's just the Steelers. Defense is like, everything about the Steelers is bad. Yeah, and I'm actually happy. I think Steelers fans are happy. That, like them, lucking their way into the playoffs would have sucked.

00:23:19.92 – 00:23:31.58

Cause I want to see there are seven teams we just listed them that I could see making a miracle run to the Super Bowl. The Steelers can't win a single game. Oh, they're going to get Kinney back.

1Speaker 1
00:23:31.98 – 00:23:34.80

When they get Kinney back, anything could happen. It's bad watching it and I.

2Speaker 2
00:23:35.34 – 00:23:38.32

I'm going to say something that's really sad, Hank, I need you to listen to this.

1Speaker 1
00:23:40.30 – 00:23:51.90

I think it might be over for Mitch. Yeah, there was a bad show. It was a bad showing by Mitch, also a bad showing by Pickens. It's really y'all pickens, not run blocking, not run blocking at all.

00:23:51.96 – 00:23:59.28

Not even pretend. I feel like the Steelers lead the league and having position players with just real bad visuals. That's here in terms of giving up on place. That's what I'm saying like.

2Speaker 2
00:23:59.28 – 00:24:15.12

Tomlin He would, he would have bad, his team would have bad moments, but he would always be able to get them back on track and win a game. That they're underdogs. And, like, everything looks terrible. I think it's like that Tomlin might be done, he might need to go somewhere else.

1Speaker 1
00:24:15.26 – 00:24:25.46

You got it, you have to have a sliding scale of talent where you have like Antonio Brown, Le'Veon Bell. And they're just absolutely destroying the locker room behind the scenes, yeah, but they're still really fucking good when they play, right?

00:24:25.48 – 00:24:36.82

You can handle that with Pickens and Deontay. Uh, this year, they've put they've. They've given up on film multiple times throughout the season, and they're not good enough to be able to just quit.

2Speaker 2
00:24:36.98 – 00:24:44.40

Didn't you say it, too, that big? Ben said that, like this is the end of the steelers, as we know it, steelers culture is done. It does feel like that.

00:24:44.48 – 00:24:50.76

This was the game they were supposed to win, and when they're up 13, nothing, you're like, they're going to win this game.

1Speaker 1
00:24:50.80 – 00:24:59.66

Yeah, I actually think next week is the game that they're supposed to win. This will be is are the Steelers as a culture, definitively dead yet? Because?

2Speaker 2
00:24:59.66 – 00:25:02.06

Yeah, no, that beating the Bengals would make sense.

1Speaker 1
00:25:02.16 – 00:25:15.96

A home game divisional underdog probably play renegade a couple of times. TJ Be ready to go backup quarterback for the Bengals. I feel like that's that's where we can pinpoint and be like, this is the end of the Steelers era.

2Speaker 2
00:25:16.18 – 00:25:24.00

Yes, yes. I also would like to say that I have officially decided I am willing to do one Coach of the Year vote and it's going to be for Shane Steichen, okay?

00:25:24.12 – 00:25:41.24

I've decided that I usually split my votes. The colts, the fact that colts are eight and six. GARDNER MINSHEW Like playing good football, they're fun team to watch. It's crazy. The whole thing is crazy. Teams aren't supposed to have, like, be expected to be bad.

00:25:41.28 – 00:25:50.94

And then and then, be this competent. It's not even like they're all. They're an incredible team, it's just their competence level is so high, they're well coached all the time.

00:25:51.14 – 00:25:52.64

Details are perfect for them.

1Speaker 1
00:25:52.84 – 00:25:56.68

Right, he's a first year coach, he's a first year coach, doing a great job, my Coach of the Year vote.

00:25:56.82 – 00:26:10.56

I have, I'm going to split mine. I think Shane Steichen is definitely deserving. I think I'm going to give one to D'Amico Ryans in Houston. And then Sean McDermott. How funny would it be if Sean McDermott won Coach of the Year this year? That would be great.

00:26:10.74 – 00:26:16.80

His speech would be awesome. Must see TV Yeah, NFL Honors night have Aaron Rodgers introduced a lot to talk about.

00:26:16.94 – 00:26:25.82

I think that the Colts will make the playoffs. The segment they did with Gardner Minshew, they were talking about the van. Yeah, was it Tariko that was doing that game? yeah.

00:26:25.96 – 00:26:49.30

Yeah, yeah, Tariko was like pretending to be grossed out. About how Gardner Minshew lives in a van at a local gym and he plays pickleball against old women. And basically, without saying in so many words, they were like, Gardner Minshew. Bangs all the cougars down in Florida. He bangs so many cougars that he just brings them to his van so that they can't sleep over. And then goes, gets the next one.

00:26:49.52 – 00:26:51.10

It sounds like a great off season for Gardner.

2Speaker 2
00:26:51.18 – 00:27:08.26

Yes, PFt. I think now this is going to be something. I shouldn't. Write a check for us that I don't know if we can cash, but let's just say it okay. If the Colts, they could win the AFC South.

00:27:08.62 – 00:27:25.92

If the Jaguars lose this game right now, I think they'd be tied because they have split. I believe there are games this year, right? I believe so. If the Colts have a home playoff game and it's played on that Saturday, most likely I think we have to go.

1Speaker 1
00:27:26.80 – 00:27:29.72

That is a big track I think we have to go. Was that January?

2Speaker 2
00:27:30.30 – 00:27:37.04

Like, 13th, I think we have to go. Also, it was Rich Eisen on the call and Kurt Warner, Oh yeah, then we should go.

00:27:37.14 – 00:27:37.98

We don't have to hear that.

1Speaker 1
00:27:38.32 – 00:27:48.76

No, it wasn't Tariq, it was Rich Eisen just chuckling to himself, thinking about Gardner banging moms. Yeah, I just couldn't help but think about how mad Kurt probably was. That that was in a dome, yeah.

00:27:49.46 – 00:27:55.64

No, he was his mother. Yeah, no, he loves it. Yeah, that's probably why Ursae closed the roof, because he was like.

2Speaker 2
00:27:55.64 – 00:28:04.84

Kurt's just going to rip me a new asshole. I want to see that puffy vest. All right, we'll table it, maybe we will go. I'm a firm, maybe on that one.

1Speaker 1
00:28:05.10 – 00:28:12.66

It's only a little drive. Yeah, do I get free playoff tickets if I'm a season ticket holder? No, I don't think so. You have to pay for them.

2Speaker 2
00:28:13.02 – 00:28:18.86

Yeah, the only reason, I was going to say, because we have season tickets, that was the only reason.

1Speaker 1
00:28:18.88 – 00:28:21.24

Maybe we go down there. Interview Mr Ursae before the game.

2Speaker 2
00:28:22.78 – 00:28:25.20

You think he'd want to do an interview right before a playoff game?

1Speaker 1
00:28:25.24 – 00:28:29.88

I think he'd be fine with it. Yeah, do a turing, yeah, sit in his box.

00:28:29.96 – 00:28:33.50

Get in Mr. Ursae's box. He would probably let us. Yeah, I think he could.

00:28:33.62 – 00:28:36.88

We could be in his box, I could see myself in Mr. Ursae's box.

2Speaker 2
00:28:37.06 – 00:28:42.52

Yeah, a couple of guys in his box, we're fun guys. Yeah, okay.

00:28:43.34 – 00:28:47.74

Last game for Saturday Lions 42, Broncos 17.

00:28:49.00 – 00:28:57.52

The Lions are back, they kicked the shit out of the Broncos. I feel like this was a fraud passing of the torch.

00:28:58.72 – 00:29:08.76

Everyone's saying Lions fraud, their defense not great. The Broncos are the real fraud. That was an ass kicking up and down. The Lions started the game with three punts.

00:29:09.24 – 00:29:18.10

They then went on five straight touchdown drives for 80 yards, 61 yards, 81 yards, 75 yards, 75 yards. Yeah, Sam Laporta was awesome.

1Speaker 1
00:29:18.56 – 00:29:31.38

Jameer Gibbs was everywhere. Yeah, Laporta's got to be one of the top five tight ends in the league right now as a rookie. Really good. They did take a couple of shots deep to Jameson at the start of the game, which I've been saying for weeks, just do that.

00:29:31.82 – 00:29:39.80

He's so fucking fast. Just air it out, stretch the defense out a little bit. The offensive game plan was awesome for the Lions also.

00:29:39.80 – 00:29:42.48

Their defense played well, which is what you need to.

2Speaker 2
00:29:42.48 – 00:29:47.52

See, they played pretty well, although I still think the Broncos just suck.

1Speaker 1
00:29:47.52 – 00:29:53.58

Well, what happened with that, that fake offsides call that they had? yeah, like fake, did they line up in the neutral zone?

2Speaker 2
00:29:53.70 – 00:30:06.36

So the helmet was in the neutral zone. Then they, uh, so they, they score a touchdown. I think they might've scored a touchdown on the play, then they call it back. Then Sean Payton just starts ripping into Russell Wilson.

00:30:06.46 – 00:30:23.52

He assumed that it was Russell's fault. He assumed it was Russell Wilson's fault. Meanwhile, as he's ripping into Russell Wilson, he's having them go out there for a field goal. To make a three score game, a three score game from take it from 28 to seven to 28 to 10. Yeah, like Sean Payton feels like, Yeah, I get it.

00:30:23.68 – 00:30:36.24

Russell Wilson, not the old Russell Wilson. I also feel like Sean Payton is just like throwing a shitload of blame on the Russell Wilson when he probably needs some blame too. For it felt like the team was not ready for this game.

1Speaker 1
00:30:36.38 – 00:30:51.12

Did he accomplish the impossible? In that moment? Which is, we felt bad for Russell Wilson, we took Russell Wilson's side and we sympathize with him. Like, that sucks that your coach is doing that to you. I didn't think that was possible for me to feel that way about him, but, uh, yeah, he was not. He was not the one who was wrong.

00:30:51.36 – 00:30:54.54

The Broncos, they're kind of clinging to it right now. I could.

2Speaker 2
00:30:54.64 – 00:31:09.64

I could still see them. No, they're, they're, they're. Their schedule is so easy. So I actually, Jake, you need to set a reminder for us. They're playing the Patriots and the Chargers at home and then at the Raiders. If the Broncos make the playoffs, I will bet everything I have against them.

00:31:09.94 – 00:31:15.30

They're they're not good, they're lucky, they're not good. Also, the baby bump worked. Russell Wilson scored.

00:31:15.78 – 00:31:18.74

Yeah, he did. Yeah, true. Yeah, that's his kid.

00:31:19.34 – 00:31:22.18

His kid, he gave birth. Yeah, gotcha, yeah.

00:31:22.46 – 00:31:30.58

Why the buddy pregnant? Why the buddy pregnant? Um, it was good though, to see the Lions get their like groove back, but I, yeah, I think the Broncos suck, I really do.

00:31:30.70 – 00:31:36.86

I know that people were like, Oh, that's bullshit, they've turned it around, they turn around with smoke and mirrors. I know they beat the chiefs, that was nice.

00:31:37.24 – 00:31:45.18

That bill's get like it's if the Broncos can't get like three turnovers, all in plus territory, they're, they're just like.

1Speaker 1
00:31:45.22 – 00:31:55.26

They're shit out of luck now. Do we? Do? We officially take the Lions off fraud watching this game? Because I think they just beat a fraud. If you beat a fraud, does that make you not a fraud?

00:31:57.06 – 00:32:10.54

It's like, catch me if you can. If you're a fraud and you get hired to find out who the fraud is, are you still a fraud? are you still a fraud for life? They have an opportunity, the Lions have an opportunity week 17 when they go to Dallas, yeah.

00:32:10.62 – 00:32:12.10

They can beat the Cowboys in Dallas.

2Speaker 2
00:32:12.34 – 00:32:16.22

Then that might be the fraud bowl. Oh, if they beat no troubles next week.

1Speaker 1
00:32:16.80 – 00:32:25.74

Dolphins, cowboys, Yeah, that is the cat. I feel like that's literally. Whoever, whoever loses that game will be a fraud. The Cowboys are playing back to back to back fraud bowls.

00:32:25.84 – 00:32:26.10

Yeah.

2Speaker 2
00:32:26.56 – 00:32:34.28

But well, no, the Bills were never a fraud team. They were just snake bit. they were just not good. Yeah, but they were, but they were also.

00:32:34.28 – 00:32:36.48

When they are good, they're not a fraud. Yeah, when?

1Speaker 1
00:32:36.48 – 00:32:41.78

They're good there, they can beat any team in the NFL. Yeah, fraud is like a front running cowboys.

2Speaker 2
00:32:41.88 – 00:33:11.60

I think are the leaders in the fraud watch right now, so I would say the Lions aren't off fraud watch. But they definitely take a nice step back because I was. Their defense played really well and their offense. When it's humming, it cannot. Like if they get a home playoff game, which they're very close to getting. By the way, if the Seahawks lose, the lines officially clinched the playoffs, which would be great if the Lions get a home playoff game. I'm very bullish on the lines, winning that home playoff game, it's when the lines have to go on the road.

00:33:11.64 – 00:33:23.44

And this isn't like anti-lions, because it's like, who who would feel good about going on the road against San Francisco right now? Yeah, no one, no one that's like. That has nothing to do with the Lions not being good, they are very good.

00:33:23.46 – 00:33:27.18

It's just if they went on the road to San Francisco, I don't know if they can.

1Speaker 1
00:33:27.18 – 00:33:41.90

Win that game. What's crazy about the NFC is there's there's a chance, like a pretty good chance, that two NFC South teams make the playoffs. Oh, I know, because the I know the Saints are. The Saints are in the playoffs right now and the Vikings have to play the Lions twice, correct?

00:33:42.04 – 00:33:42.40

So they.

2Speaker 2
00:33:42.58 – 00:33:50.88

That's going to be a tough schedule. No, the Packers have shit all over themselves. The Saints Rams Rams game next week actually is like a huge playoff game. Yeah, yeah.

00:33:51.22 – 00:33:57.66

Yeah, Thursday night, but yeah, no, there's the Saints we could get, the Saints and the Bucs, Jesus.

00:33:58.12 – 00:33:59.30

Yeah, it's crazy.

1Speaker 1
00:33:59.52 – 00:34:10.66

I don't know what that does to my calculation. About NFC South coaches getting fired, I still feel like it's every team that doesn't win the division. Yeah, if you get it, if you make the playoffs, you get in as fired, yeah.

00:34:10.68 – 00:34:17.60

If you're like, right around 500, I don't know if you get in as wildcard, you still might get. The Saints might still fire, I think, I think, if he finds.

2Speaker 2
00:34:17.60 – 00:34:25.34

A way to get in the playoffs, cause they'd have to win like two out of the last three. You could say they finished strong, they got hot. Yeah, either way, that was an awesome game for the Lions.

00:34:25.58 – 00:34:44.48

They that was, that was what the Lions needed because they had gone. What it felt like four weeks a month, where, yeah, they went two and two in the last four. But they have not looked really good in those four games. And Dan Campbell said he's going to be more irritable, he's gonna have to push them harder.

00:34:44.64 – 00:34:59.80

And then we saw it, like he, that that was what the Lions looked like early on in the season. When everything's clicking on offense and Jared's looks great and Jameer Gibbs like, they have so many weapons when everything's working that I love watching them.

1Speaker 1
00:34:59.80 – 00:35:07.94

Play football It's fun to watch the Lions play football it is. And they get C.J. Garner Johnson back next week. Maybe he's practicing now.

00:35:08.26 – 00:35:28.18

Yeah, that's going to be, but yeah, you can, definitely, you can sell yourself that. The Lions maybe their defense is getting good, you know, we talked. We really have to believe that the defense is getting good because then you might accidentally play good. So if you shut down the Vikings twice and you hold your own against Dallas and you get a good, important player like that back, you can go into the playoffs being like, Yeah, our defense.

2Speaker 2
00:35:28.18 – 00:35:37.08

Is fixed. Jeff, Jeff Saturday told us on Friday. Just get, get guys lined up, right. Yeah, yeah, just if you're a Lions fan, you just got to walk around being like, once we get guys lined up, right?

00:35:37.62 – 00:35:41.52

What are we? Fine? Yeah, that's it, that's all it takes, not a not a lack of skill.

00:35:41.52 – 00:35:49.86

Get guys lined up, right? Okay, let's go to Sunday, we'll start with the Browns and Bears.

00:35:51.88 – 00:35:53.58

Browns, 20, Bears 17.

00:35:54.14 – 00:36:01.94

I'll start with the Browns, cause I'd like to give the Browns a shitload of credit. The Browns have had so many injuries.

00:36:02.08 – 00:36:36.80

They had at one point, I think during this game, they were on their third right tackle, third center, backup, left tackle, backup guard. They've had so many injuries to every place on the football field and they're so resilient and their defense shows up in big moments. And Joe Flacco, that pass he made to Amari Cooper to tie the game was. It was a tight window with three dudes right around them. And the Browns deserve all the credit in the world for being like this tough, hard-nosed team that has had so many chances to quit on the season and have always answered the bell.

00:36:37.14 – 00:36:43.62

And if you're a Browns fan, like I know, the season has been weird, disorienting, everything. Right now, you have to be just proud.

1Speaker 1
00:36:43.62 – 00:36:52.38

Of your football team? Yeah, Flacco can throw the dick out of the ball. That pass was was so sick right in between the zone. Uh, Eber Flus gave kind of a loser answer to it after the game.

00:36:52.38 – 00:37:01.48

He said that that ball should have been intercepted. He's like, if we play that, make that play again, we probably pick them off. Well, he's a loser. That was a designed interception, according to Matt Eber Flus.

00:37:01.56 – 00:37:11.02

Yeah, uh, usually they break quicker on the ball than that, so he has no regrets about the play call. Maybe okay, at least just say like we should have tackled the guy after he caught it.

00:37:11.26 – 00:37:23.00

Yeah, like you can say, we had the right coverage. It was a better throw at the. at the very least give credit to Flacco for making a great throw on that one. Well, I know, loves Cooper, and he loves David and Joku. Yeah, he does.

00:37:23.36 – 00:37:24.92

And and the bears defense is not the.

2Speaker 2
00:37:24.92 – 00:37:40.28

Problem in this game? So here's a here's a fun stat. Um, since 2015, teams with three plus sacks, three plus interceptions in a pick six were 40. And oh, now they're 40 and one. Thank you, bears. Also here's a fun stat.

00:37:40.70 – 00:37:49.78

No head coaches ever lost multiple games in a single year despite owning a 10 point lead and a plus two turnover margin until today. Matt Eber Flus come on down.

1Speaker 1
00:37:49.78 – 00:38:13.04

Setting records, baby. I would like to say and get ahead of this before the end of season. When the Justin Fields debate happens, because it's going to happen, it's already happening a little bit. Um, we should adjust his stats at the end of the year. Because he had, uh, two interceptions today, both on Hail Mary's and the first one was not an interception. And Fields was like lobbying with the ref at halftime.

00:38:13.16 – 00:38:33.18

Like, hey, call that an incomplete pass. That wasn't a pick. He was trying to get it reviewed before they went into the locker room, which he should have because that wasn't an interception. And then the one at the end that was in Mooney's hands. Mooney was holding it like like a baby. He was cradling, he was swaddling the football and then he kicked it up, uh, into the Browns hands. It's such an insane way to lose.

00:38:33.32 – 00:38:49.80

Those should not count as interceptions. And he had a drop touchdown, Robert Tanya, Robert Tanya and just dropped a wide open touchdown. So, in my personal book for Justin Fields, at the end of the season, I will be adjusting his stats to include one more touchdown and two fewer interceptions. No, and then?

2Speaker 2
00:38:49.80 – 00:39:01.34

I said, I don't want to do this again, I don't want to do this again. With the Justin Fields convo. No, I just saw like this was a gateway game I saw I talked about on Friday. This is a gateway to my happiness.

00:39:01.50 – 00:39:11.84

I was legitimately excited for this game, I legitimately thought the Bears could win this game. Their defense played really well. I agree with you, Justin Fields was not like the the glaring problem.

00:39:12.18 – 00:39:28.44

Offensive line couldn't block today receivers dropping balls execution in the fourth quarter. Like a time and time again, you start a drive, it's run, run. And then be like, Hey Justin, get us, you know? 12 yards here on third down when everyone's expecting it, that's not winning football.

00:39:28.56 – 00:39:39.44

That's not how you can, like, conduct an offense. So I just, I'm tired of everything I. I actually have decided PFt, I think what's best for my health. I'm just going to say whatever Ryan Pulls does.

00:39:39.52 – 00:39:40.98

I'm cool with the trust and.

1Speaker 1
00:39:40.98 – 00:39:44.80

Yeah, you're trusting the process. Well, guess what? Montez sweats a fucking beast.

00:39:44.90 – 00:39:48.18

Yeah, he is awesome, right? Two and a half sacks and we have the number one pick.

00:39:48.32 – 00:39:49.60

I think Montez sweat is now.

2Speaker 2
00:39:49.60 – 00:40:01.54

Leading two teams in sacks this year and we have the number one pick for a reason. Ryan pulls So I'm just gonna, I don't want to do the whatever happens, I'm just I'm good with. I'll just do whatever whatever Ryan pulls says we're doing.

00:40:01.66 – 00:40:03.44

I'm just gonna be like, you know what, that's what?

1Speaker 1
00:40:03.44 – 00:40:14.84

We're doing, I'll say this about Justin Fields, he's not. He's not bad enough to be generating the type of insult stats and insult graphics that are going around about him. He's, he's a decent quarterback, he plays the game a little bit differently.

00:40:15.10 – 00:40:31.20

So his stats aren't always like glaringly obvious, like, Oh, look, how many yards this guy threw, right? But he's, he's decent. But I don't know, I don't know if you can. If you think that Caleb Williams is like, as good as advertised, you you can't pass up drafting him, you can't, I'm just telling you you're going to.

2Speaker 2
00:40:31.20 – 00:40:39.74

Regret that? Oh, that was, oh geez, we just watched Keaton Mitchell, uh, hurt his knee very badly. I don't know. That was a very Raven's thing.

00:40:41.32 – 00:40:42.38

Moment of silence.

00:40:44.52 – 00:40:57.86

That was bad, you missed it. His knee just like, popped real bad. Um, yeah, I get what you're saying. Caleb Williams, the whole thing, the financials, I just, and I get it.

00:40:57.86 – 00:41:29.38

I have to debate it, I will debate it. I just after a loss like today, the losing a game where I got my hopes up that the Bears were going to make a run to a potent like. Yes, I know a lot of shit had to happen, but Falcons and Cardinals at home, I was like bears could maybe make week 18 at Lambeau like a super meaningful game. I was excited at that proposition. Losing the way they lost today. I just don't really. I want to opt out of, uh, like, future quarterback discussions for, like, 24.

1Speaker 1
00:41:29.38 – 00:41:38.92

Hours, Yeah, but you also you're going to have a nice look at the playoff machine. You need that nerd Steve Kornacki to give you a full on breakdown about what happens if you finish eight.

2Speaker 2
00:41:38.92 – 00:41:48.84

And nine and no, I don't want to do it. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm trying to, I'm trying to open up that game. No, no, I'm, I'm staying, I'm staying firm.

00:41:48.84 – 00:41:54.58

When I have a gateway game, if we lose it, it's over, it's over, it's over, get back.

00:41:54.72 – 00:41:58.88

Oh, no, it's over. I'm being, I'm being honest, I'm being realistic, I don't want to play this game.

00:41:59.22 – 00:42:12.48

This was the game they had to win. If they won this game, I would have my hopes all the way up. They did not. It makes me realize getting your hopes up for your sports teams is the dumbest thing you could possibly do as a human being. There's no reason for it.

00:42:12.72 – 00:42:14.68

Nothing ever good happens out of it. There's.

1Speaker 1
00:42:14.68 – 00:42:20.12

Just nothing on the other side. But how nice would it be if it was you and Green Bay winner?

2Speaker 2
00:42:20.12 – 00:42:25.62

Makes the playoffs, it's all I wanted. Well, the packers stink too. Yeah, hold on.

00:42:25.68 – 00:42:27.22

I'm looking right now at the.

00:42:28.74 – 00:42:31.72

It's the Bears are the fifth pick right now, first and fifth, first and fifth, yeah.

00:42:31.72 – 00:42:43.04

I'm on Tankathon big time right now. Yeah, I just I, I don't know I. After a game like today, it's like, if you look at this, if you look at the box score, you're like, Justin Fields stinks. If you watch the game, you're like, there's a lot of other problems that need to be fixed.

00:42:44.30 – 00:43:01.48

So maybe that's the answer. Just fix all the other problems. But whatever, that was a that was a brutal way for them to lose that game. Because you knew as soon as the like, you just knew how it was going. It's gone this way for two years now, where it's like the three and outs start coming in a flurry.

00:43:01.66 – 00:43:09.16

And you're like, Oh, this is about to be a really tight game, even though the Bears like kind of dominated for the first three quarters. Oh, they did, yeah. Flacco on the.

1Speaker 1
00:43:09.16 – 00:43:14.10

Flackometer, he was. Their defense dominated, their office. Yeah, Flacco was a bum for the first three quarters.

00:43:14.12 – 00:43:26.84

And then it's like, elite, elite, that's what, flack? That's why it's so confusing, because you have to almost like Men in Black yourself. And take the take the device out and make you forget all the boneheaded mistakes that he made. Yeah, cause he does, he thinks he can make every throw.

00:43:26.94 – 00:43:39.52

And sometimes so, the one play that the uh, the Bears defender made, where he it was like, at the goal line, uh, right after they got the muff punt. Flacco throws that pick. That was one of the best interceptions. Yes, yeah, that was incredible.

00:43:39.58 – 00:43:44.78

I don't, I don't even know if that was a bad throw by Flacco, as much as it was just a great play. Yeah, there was there.

2Speaker 2
00:43:44.78 – 00:43:58.26

I mean, the Bears defense was legitimately flying around today and playing like, really good football. By the way, Keaton Mitchell did not look good walking off the field. That's, that's just a that's just like a Ravens running back thing, huh, yeah.

00:43:59.02 – 00:44:07.40

Oh, he gave him a final tap. Um, yeah, no, you're talking about Stevenson's interception. It was incredible. Yeah, and yeah, no, the Bears defense makes me feel good.

00:44:07.48 – 00:44:10.30

Makes me feel warm inside everything else.

00:44:12.26 – 00:44:22.86

I'm credit to the Browns for being like, I want the Browns to. I want the Browns to fucking go on a run. Now. Flacco is like, so much fun to watch. The fact that he's out there doing this is insane.

1Speaker 1
00:44:22.98 – 00:44:27.98

And the fact that he makes so many people mad, yeah, and he made $75,000 today, yeah, shout out.

00:44:28.12 – 00:44:33.88

He's actually did our podcast joke in real life, he makes he gets in bored apes. Yeah, he, yeah.

00:44:34.14 – 00:44:44.20

$75,000 an episode per win. And then, uh, in the playoffs, he gets like a hundred thousand, 200,000, 500,000, a million, 2 million, something like that, too. Imagine if you got a check for $2?

2Speaker 2
00:44:44.20 – 00:44:49.14

Million for just winning a football game. Yeah, that'd be sick. Yeah, this is what I'm saying.

00:44:49.22 – 00:45:00.64

I should have made it like a billion dollars, yeah. Cause if you're well, I don't understand why owners don't do that. I don't know, maybe it's illegal, but if you're an owner, like if you had as much money, how much money does Jimmy Haslam have?

00:45:00.82 – 00:45:03.38

Uh, billions, let me see billions net worth.

1Speaker 1
00:45:03.38 – 00:45:07.24

You should give them discounts on on pilot flying J Gas for $8.

00:45:07.24 – 00:45:10.20

8 billion if I had $8.8.

2Speaker 2
00:45:10.20 – 00:45:21.90

Billion? And I owned an NFL franchise and I would definitely put in for my quarterback. I'd be like, if you win a Super Bowl, I'll give you $200 million, it's so worth it, $200 million.

1Speaker 1
00:45:22.82 – 00:45:35.10

But you have to bet it against me in one hand of blackjack war, and if I beat you in war, if I beat you, you don't get any of it. And if you beat me, it doubles. I like that we should be NFL owners.

00:45:35.26 – 00:45:39.42

Yeah, we'd be so much better than Tapper, he would want to come play for us. Yeah, for sure, why wouldn't you?

00:45:39.52 – 00:45:43.06

$200 million probably get investigated in $200 million.

2Speaker 2
00:45:43.46 – 00:45:49.62

Maybe that's what the contract says $200 million bonus. You win the Super Bowl parentheses, maybe if you have the balls.

00:45:49.68 – 00:45:53.02

Yeah, yeah, if you're man enough. yeah, uh okay.

00:45:53.94 – 00:46:02.86

Moving on, Bear season over. I want everyone to just respect me. I'm not, I appreciate you trying to be like, Hey, look at the playoff machine, disrespect my wishes.

00:46:03.02 – 00:46:10.10

I'm addicted to, It's over. This was the gateway game. I've never won a gateway game. My happiness doesn't deserve it. It is what it is.

00:46:10.28 – 00:46:23.90

Uh, okay, the one thing I did have that was happy today was the box 34 packers 20. So I got roasted, this was, this is actually. I take a little blame for the Bears loss today because I got roasted. So we have seven games on.

00:46:23.96 – 00:46:40.76

I was very into the Bears game today, like I was, it was my gateway game, so I wasn't watching every second of the Packers game. I looked over and it was at the end of the game when Jordan Love had a fumble. And I'd sit on a tweet being like, he sucks and all the Packers trends like, No, he was fucking great today.

00:46:40.96 – 00:46:52.66

What I should have said was the Packers defense sucks cause they got absolutely torched by Baker Mayfield, so I take it back. Jordan Love played well today. The Packers defense was a joke of a unit today.

00:46:52.68 – 00:46:58.64

And the Packers went from No one wants to play him in the playoffs to Are these guys going to actually get in the playoffs?

1Speaker 1
00:46:59.32 – 00:47:08.22

Yeah, so they've, uh, they've lost back-to-back games to Tommy DeVito and Baker Mayfield. Yep, Tommy dropped 24 on Baker, dropped 34 on Baker. Look great today.

2Speaker 2
00:47:08.36 – 00:47:10.92

Four touchdown passes, 381 yards.

1Speaker 1
00:47:11.02 – 00:47:18.86

If I'm, if I'm the Bucks, I think I might just run it back with Baker next year. Why not? why not? You're probably going to make the playoffs, probably going to win the division.

2Speaker 2
00:47:19.04 – 00:47:21.12

Yeah, we talked about it on Friday, I agree with you.

1Speaker 1
00:47:21.12 – 00:47:32.42

Bring baker back, Baker. I still go back to the way Cleveland just kind of like, flushed him down the toilet. Yeah, he was the best quarterback that Cleveland seen in a long, certainly like the best one that they've drafted in a long time.

00:47:32.60 – 00:47:45.58

He also played, Yeah, and they can't keep a guy healthy now because he wasn't perfect. And there were some throws where you're like, Well, I wish that maybe he had taken some time to to heal himself before coming back and trying to gut through it. Guess what?

00:47:45.60 – 00:47:54.38

That's not Baker's call. Of course, the player is going to want to play all the time. Your coach has to be like, No, Baker. You can't play with a torn labrum, right? Shut it down for a little bit.

00:47:54.82 – 00:48:06.38

Um, the Browns, like, really fucked up by getting rid of a Baker Mayfield. And then he was on the Panthers and everyone was like, Oh, Baker stinks. No. He just caught an acute case of pantheritis and he had to get that out of it. Matt Rule was his coach.

00:48:06.42 – 00:48:12.78

Matt rule, he had Matt rule, he had full blown panthers, which is not a position it's almost unrecoverable, yes.

00:48:12.88 – 00:48:23.04

And he got a bad deal in Cleveland, bad deal in Carolina, looked okay for the Rams and spot dude. Amen. I still think Baker Mayfield is a good N.F.L. quarterback, he's.

2Speaker 2
00:48:23.04 – 00:48:35.72

Like, in that above average tier for you. He was 22 for 28, 381 yards for touchdown. This is his best game since the Browns. He was incredible today and the Packers defense stinks.

00:48:36.18 – 00:48:49.34

They absolutely stinks back to back weeks like and bigger. Mayfield is better than Tommy DeVito, who will get to, but think about it, they, you know, Tommy Vito drives to that field goal win on Monday night and then bigger Mayfield.

00:48:49.46 – 00:48:55.70

Every time he looked up, the Bucks had a guy wide open running down the field. Do we need to talk about Lafleur as being?

1Speaker 1
00:48:55.70 – 00:49:13.50

A A coordinator killer, You know how when you have a quarterback that's a coach killer, they get slapped to that label. LaFleur might be a coordinator killer. So he's fired three coordinators in five years, uh, as the Green Bay Packers coach, and it looks like they're. It looks like Joe Barry's probably going to get fired.

00:49:13.88 – 00:49:16.98

What coordinators did he fire? Uh, let's see.

00:49:19.76 – 00:49:25.68

Hackett Hackett didn't get fired, he got promoted, he got hired as a head coach, he got big time promoted, yeah.

00:49:25.78 – 00:49:28.96

But no, he's, he's fired three coordinators. This would be the fourth if.

2Speaker 2
00:49:28.96 – 00:49:35.46

Joe Barry gets fired. Wait, so who else, though, did he fire? I'm just wondering what side of the?

1Speaker 1
00:49:35.46 – 00:49:50.60

Ball I don't have the list in front of me right now, I'm just saying. Coordinators in general, like LaFleur, exists on a plane above his his coordinators, where he has, like, a great sense of who his fall guy is going to be at all times. I know that Packers fans have hated Joe Barry for.

2Speaker 2
00:49:50.60 – 00:50:07.52

A couple of years now, um, I'm trying to remember who their coordinator was before that. The thing is, Packers fans all have just wanted Jim Leonard to be their coordinator for, uh, the longest time. Hold on. Mike Patton was before Joe Barry, I believe.

00:50:07.90 – 00:50:15.22

Yes, yeah, so yeah. The the defensive coordinator for the Packers, I think, is always just the most hated guy in Green Bay. Yeah, feels.

1Speaker 1
00:50:15.22 – 00:50:23.92

Like, yeah, because he is the cure to all your answers. If you have an offensive minded head coach and you have Aaron Rodgers as your quarterback, what are you going to do? You're not going to fire like Aaron Rodgers best friend.

00:50:23.98 – 00:50:25.74

Right, so it's like, Okay, well, we need to fire.

2Speaker 2
00:50:25.74 – 00:50:42.62

Somebody else who has the title of coordinator, Yes, but yeah, the Packers are I, I. That happened so fast that they were they beat the Chiefs on Sunday night. Football. And I mean, hand up. I probably shouldn't have crowned them as a team. Definitely going to the playoffs. Bad analysis by me.

00:50:42.68 – 00:50:51.72

I apologize, that was sloppy, but two weeks later and it's like, this team stinks. The defense can't stop anyone, they need to kick in the ass.

00:50:51.80 – 00:50:52.62

They need to have.

1Speaker 1
00:50:52.82 – 00:51:05.88

They need to put Matt Lafleur on sabbatical and have Rich Basaccia step in, just coach them for one week. I actually think that Rich Basaccia could walk into Matt Lafleur's office and be like, Hey, Matt, you're fired? yeah, and Matt Lafleur would be like, Yes, sir.

00:51:06.24 – 00:51:07.18

Yeah, okay, no.

2Speaker 2
00:51:07.18 – 00:51:13.58

Problem they do have. They do play the Panthers next week, so, uh, I will have to root for the Packers next week. That'll be nice, yeah.

00:51:13.80 – 00:51:17.20

Yeah, that should cure a lot of the problems I've.

1Speaker 1
00:51:17.24 – 00:51:31.20

I've decided, big cat, cover your ears. I've decided that. I want the Packers to keep winning and I want the Bears to keep winning. And then I want a week 18 game between the Packers and the Bears winner gets into the playoffs. How awesome would that be? It's already done.

00:51:31.34 – 00:51:31.96

No, but that's.

2Speaker 2
00:51:32.30 – 00:51:37.34

They had to both win. Today, it's over. That was my point, that was the gateway.

00:51:37.56 – 00:51:37.98

I don't know if.

1Speaker 1
00:51:37.98 – 00:51:41.34

Today was the gateway. I told you to close your ears, you weren't supposed to hear that, that's.

2Speaker 2
00:51:41.34 – 00:51:49.20

True, no, but today was it. You can't, the bears can't. They're fucking five and eight, dude. Why aren't they eliminated? What's their path?

00:51:49.72 – 00:51:56.44

Everyone else losing a million games. It's not possible. They didn't get the giant graphic. No, it's not possible. They're still in the hunt.

00:51:56.44 – 00:52:02.14

Yeah, yeah, no, they can't, it's stupid, but they can't, but they can't. Jake, Can you come?

1Speaker 1
00:52:02.14 – 00:52:06.94

Up with a formula that has the packers and the bears meeting in the lab. Today was the day and.

2Speaker 2
00:52:06.94 – 00:52:12.64

The winner gets in both teams. Because today it would have been like collision course that would.

1Speaker 1
00:52:12.64 – 00:52:16.06

Have been the ultimate. It still could happen. I just not going to have you should have rooted.

2Speaker 2
00:52:16.06 – 00:52:20.40

Harder today for the Bears. I took my eye off the ball, you took your eye off the ball you wanted.

1Speaker 1
00:52:20.40 – 00:52:26.36

Something that was I had a lot of emotional ties with Joe Flacco. I've been spending the whole week.

2Speaker 2
00:52:26.36 – 00:52:33.04

Thinking about this, today was the day it had to happen. Yeah, and it didn't happen. I got Jake on it.

00:52:33.54 – 00:52:40.54

Packers Stephen sucks, Uh, but Jordan loved it. Look, look, good. I mean, I went back and watched some clips cause I wanted to correct myself.

00:52:40.64 – 00:52:42.32

That's how much I'm, I take my.

1Speaker 1
00:52:42.32 – 00:52:47.60

Job to get it right. Yeah, if he was making some really nice throws, we try not to be wrong, yeah.

2Speaker 2
00:52:47.80 – 00:53:09.22

I was I was in the moment wrong because I I watched a fumble that was very funny to me, uh, and it was also a fourth down fumble. So it didn't really matter to defend him a little, even though I don't want to, but yeah, Jordan Love was not the problem. Their defense gave up 381 yards to Baker Mayfield and then I think even they were getting gashed in the run game, too.

00:53:09.42 – 00:53:12.68

It was just bad all around, let's see.

00:53:14.44 – 00:53:23.16

What was it? Yeah, they gave up a hundred yards, uh, rushing and 381 yards passing. Uh, Jake's doing it right now, yeah.

00:53:23.24 – 00:53:28.34

All right, well, I'm looking at tweets, I see one formula that's like 15 things, yeah.

00:53:28.34 – 00:53:35.68

It's the dumbest, it's over. PFD. You had a chance to root for it, and it's it's dead. It's higher than 0.0. What do you think?

00:53:35.78 – 00:53:48.22

I've been getting so nervous about and saying Gateway Game and talking about how big this game was. It was because of Week 18 is because you had playoff implications. It was because if they got to, if they were, if they ran the table and the packers ran the table week.

1Speaker 1
00:53:48.22 – 00:54:06.82

18 would have been for everything, I guess. I'm just looking at the NFC South, I'm looking at the playoff records of, like the Vikings at seven and seven. A couple other teams that are at or beneath 500 that are technically still in it. That could lose some more games Max is doing on the playoff calculator.

00:54:07.04 – 00:54:14.50

Yeah, I'd love the playoff machine. The playoff machine on ESPN is like my very favorite thing in the entire world. To use PFT, do a couple ads and.

2Speaker 2
00:54:14.50 – 00:54:18.24

Max will work on it. Okay, he's got it, okay, we'll get it after the ads.

00:54:18.34 – 00:54:19.18

That's a hell of a tease.

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2Speaker 2
00:56:22.92 – 00:56:40.42

All right, Max, read it to us, or Jake, it's going to feel like Francesca reading just numbers and names. This also does the opposite of what we're talking about. That's why the Packers and the Bears need to win today, because I'm reading this right now. It has, like Panthers over Packers.

00:56:40.70 – 00:56:52.78

It's basically getting the Packers eliminated before No. I plugged it in the ESPN playoff and then week 18, I had the Packers beating the Bears, and the Bears beating the Packers. And they flip flop the seven seed. Okay, so then tell us all right.

00:56:53.68 – 00:56:55.60

Eagles oversee. You got to listen, Yeah, I'm.

1Speaker 1
00:56:55.60 – 00:57:00.96

Listening you wanted this? I'm reading it right now. Eagles oversee Hawks tonight week 16,.

2Speaker 2
00:57:01.40 – 00:57:20.88

Saints over Rams, Falcons over Colts, Titans oversee Hawks, Lions over Vikings, Panthers over Packers, Jags over Bucks, Bears over Cardinals, Eagles over Giants. Okay, there's a couple red flags to that. One Week 17 Bears over Falcons, Giants over Rams, Bucks over Saints, Packers over Vikings, Week 18 Lions over Vikings and then Bears Packers becomes a win. And there's like.

1Speaker 1
00:57:21.06 – 00:57:24.56

There's like four games on there that I'm circling like, that will never happen.

2Speaker 2
00:57:26.26 – 00:57:30.54

Yeah, eagles over giants or no, I guess that could happen.

1Speaker 1
00:57:31.50 – 00:57:36.50

Yeah, I guess so he goes over. Do you think I don't know Max is gonna be rooting for that?

2Speaker 2
00:57:36.50 – 00:57:40.90

Game Tommy DeVito or the Eagles? He was pretty upset. Saints were desecrating our boy.

1Speaker 1
00:57:40.90 – 00:57:47.10

Titans Seahawks, Titans oversee Hawks. Maybe if Drew Locke's playing, I could talk myself into that.

00:57:48.72 – 00:57:57.84

Yeah, there's a couple iffy ones here. Yeah, I don't think it's gonna happen. I'd say Giants over Rams is gonna be tough, too. yeah, Panthers over Packers, pretty tough.

00:57:58.34 – 00:57:59.76

Yeah, bears over.

2Speaker 2
00:57:59.76 – 00:58:06.32

Packers Probably pretty tough, either way. Maybe it's for the best. Yeah, I told you the gateway's closed. It might be for the best, though.

00:58:06.66 – 00:58:19.34

I feel like I had all these hopes and dreams and it came smashing down upon me. And then you showed up two minutes after and you're like, Hey, what if this happened? It could? And I was like, No dude, that was what we were just hoping.

1Speaker 1
00:58:19.34 – 00:58:26.68

And dreaming about it could now what would actually be the worst thing? And this is why I'm saying, maybe for the best, that it's not gonna happen, it's not gonna happen, it's over.

00:58:26.74 – 00:58:47.64

It is for the best, it's over. I'm not gonna do a memes thing. I could see a world where going into that potential Week 18 matchup, where the Bears win, they lose that draft pick, the high draft pick, and then whoever picks in that position takes like an All-pro Hall of Fame player. And you're like, Oh yeah, looking back on that meaningless game against the Packers that I wanted so desperately.

2Speaker 2
00:58:47.66 – 00:58:54.22

No, but it would have gone. To go to the playoffs. Yeah, you never say going to the playoffs is meaningless. Yeah, that's a fact.

00:58:54.78 – 00:58:56.08

Going to the playoffs is never meaningless.

1Speaker 1
00:58:58.74 – 00:59:03.48

Maybe if you're a Saints fan, it might be, I don't know actually. yeah, maybe if you go to the.

2Speaker 2
00:59:03.48 – 00:59:06.52

Playoffs, you're four wins away from winning the Super Bowl, that's true, and I feel like the Saints.

1Speaker 1
00:59:06.52 – 00:59:15.10

Have reason to believe now, like they've got reason to think. Maybe we can win a playoff game. This was a big like shot in the arm for that, I guess, if the Steelers went to the playoffs.

2Speaker 2
00:59:15.22 – 00:59:23.50

That'd be meaningless. Yeah, there's a lot of teams that would be meaningless, but if the Bears have run the table, it would not be meaningless. Yeah, for like, a Bears program, it never goes to the playoffs.

00:59:23.58 – 00:59:30.70

Program I like that, especially with the number one pick. It'd be good for recruiting in the Nil. Yeah, yeah, Bears go to the playoffs.

00:59:30.84 – 00:59:31.56

They're a portal, oh.

1Speaker 1
00:59:31.60 – 00:59:35.04

You know that Harbaugh would take over and be like, we got a strong program here, yeah.

2Speaker 2
00:59:35.58 – 00:59:44.28

All right, next game. Not a strong program. Chiefs 27, Patriots 17, Hank sit on up.

00:59:46.22 – 00:59:48.74

Billy's Happy actually didn't look that bad for a little bit.

1Speaker 1
00:59:49.38 – 00:59:56.48

Yeah, they were throwing it all over the field in the first half. Yeah, he likes everyone, he hops, he does, he dances back.

00:59:56.54 – 01:00:01.84

He likes to hop up. The offensive line was bad, they were giving him no time, but he was getting out of a lot.

2Speaker 2
01:00:01.84 – 01:00:12.66

Of situations, there's that one sack where, like the entire Chiefs team was like, on him. I think it might've actually ended up in an interception on him. Like, instantly, he had no time.

01:00:12.94 – 01:00:13.02

The.

1Speaker 1
01:00:13.02 – 01:00:22.00

Interception in their own territory was bad. How do you feel about the defense? Are you still high on the defense? Yeah, I mean, the defense is like one of the best defenses in the league since week 10..

01:00:22.28 – 01:00:34.36

And the report was kind of walked back a little bit, the Belichick report I'm talking about, where they said they've already made the decision to move on from him. They walked that back a little bit and they're like, no decision has been made, right? Just a report.

01:00:34.60 – 01:00:34.94

Yeah, did.

2Speaker 2
01:00:34.94 – 01:00:42.10

You see the new hotness. What's that? The new report? I should tell you, PFT first? Um, yeah.

01:00:42.12 – 01:00:42.20

I.

1Speaker 1
01:00:42.20 – 01:00:47.66

Mean, like I told you last week on Thursday, that was a fake news report. This is very funny, hank.

2Speaker 2
01:00:47.72 – 01:01:12.68

Because, um, a lot of times, like the world's out to get us is bullshit. This one made me chuckle because they spent all week saying Belichick was going to get fired. And then the report I saw today was that Jared Mayo is rubbing people the wrong way because he's supposed to be the successor. So they just basically were like, Oh, that Belichick report was fake, this guy's actually.

1Speaker 1
01:01:12.68 – 01:01:16.30

The problem, I like that, what do we like that? We got two camps going at it, yeah.

01:01:16.32 – 01:01:28.20

I feel like that might've been the Belichick getting his word out there. Like, if you're going to replace me, you better have a guy lined up. I don't think that this is the right guy. Yeah, that was like a make good by current, like my bad.

01:01:29.28 – 01:01:41.46

But the thing is, it probably will happen, like it probably will happen. They're just mad that it is all happening publicly. Yeah, they thought that they would be able to handle it differently than every other team has ever done it. Because they're the patriots and they do things the patriot way there.

2Speaker 2
01:01:42.28 – 01:01:56.32

REPORT Patriots coach Jared Mayo has been rubbing people the wrong way this season via Greg Bedard. Multiple team sources indicated Mayo has rubbed at least some people the wrong way. Hopefully not craft. Is that a shot at orchid stays?

01:01:56.50 – 01:02:10.48

Yeah, multiple people the wrong way in the building. Since his extension, and when he perhaps received a strong indication, you'd be the successor. And the picture that was used was Mayo and Steve Belichick.

1Speaker 1
01:02:10.88 – 01:02:16.12

Oh so, yeah, yeah, he's probably treating Steve like he hasn't earned anything.

2Speaker 2
01:02:17.24 – 01:02:26.20

Interesting, interesting. Be farther from the truth. What are you? what are you? what are you thinking? Max Uh, this is beside the point, but we just saw the the injury video.

01:02:26.38 – 01:02:33.02

Oh, I saw it in real life, it was crazy, dude, Keith Mitchell, it was Willis McGahee. I'm going to.

1Speaker 1
01:02:33.02 – 01:02:37.04

Watch it live. I did not see it when it happened.

01:02:39.04 – 01:02:41.24

Graphic knee isn't supposed to bend this way.

2Speaker 2
01:02:41.40 – 01:02:49.54

No, it's Willis McGahee, let's see he's stepping. Oh, what the fuck. It's an obtuse angle.

01:02:50.40 – 01:02:50.84

Oh.

1Speaker 1
01:02:52.08 – 01:03:04.60

He, Uh, no, I think it's an acute angle. No, acute is less than 90 degrees. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So it becomes, it bends, so the joint is like that.

01:03:04.64 – 01:03:05.70

It's smaller, No.

2Speaker 2
01:03:06.22 – 01:03:12.36

That his, his knee was like, this, right? It's above, that's more than nine, I guess it depends.

1Speaker 1
01:03:12.36 – 01:03:23.76

On which side of the knee we're referring to when we're judging the angle? If we're talking about the front, the front is acute, the back is obtuse. Okay, so I am personally being obtuse right now.

01:03:24.12 – 01:03:24.68

Wow.

01:03:26.38 – 01:03:37.42

Get well soon. Yeah, that's bad. Yeah, running backs I also just enjoy. Um, I hope they keep kedarious Tony around for the playoff run.

01:03:37.42 – 01:03:39.16

Cause watching him blow a playoff game would.

2Speaker 2
01:03:39.16 – 01:03:49.04

Just it's at this point. It is 100 like, if they keep him around, they have no one to blame but themselves. He is, he's actually like I.

01:03:49.04 – 01:03:55.24

I'm getting to the point where I think that someone's trying to take Mahomes down and they're like, we'll use kedarious Tony to do it.

1Speaker 1
01:03:55.34 – 01:04:04.24

Either that or Mahomes got so bored dominating the NFL that he's playing on expert mode with kedarious Tony, who will probably cost you at least seven points. Trying to catch a football.

2Speaker 2
01:04:04.24 – 01:04:17.54

That was the funniest interception ever. He, he was playing, he was playing like, keep it up, like, let me make sure. He basically couldn't catch the ball and was like, wait, hold on, let me make sure I pop it up one last time so someone can catch the ball.

1Speaker 1
01:04:17.60 – 01:04:46.96

It also doesn't help matters that he just looks insane. Whenever they show him, he's just like, got this big smile on, his eyes are crazy. I. He is the one. He's a rare example. But I feel like in three or four games this year. If you put an average person on the field in Kedarious Tony's position, um, it might actually be better off for the Chiefs. Because you would never get the ball thrown to you, cause you'd never be able to get open, uh, but at least you wouldn't actively cost your team points, like hand the ball for the other team points.

2Speaker 2
01:04:47.06 – 01:04:52.76

Yeah, I mahomes like. He actually showed a lot of frustration for the first time.

1Speaker 1
01:04:52.82 – 01:04:55.04

Which he should have since the end of the game.

2Speaker 2
01:04:55.78 – 01:05:08.80

Last week, well, that was to the rest, I'm saying for the first time in its own teammates. But yeah, if Kedarious Tony ends up playing on a playoff roster, he's going to fuck it up. And then they're going to be like, we don't know what happened, yeah.

01:05:08.88 – 01:05:14.78

We know it happened, dude, how can we see this? how can we see it coming? He's shown a million times, but they, I think Kelsey dropped.

1Speaker 1
01:05:14.78 – 01:05:17.92

One today, too, he did. Yeah, yeah, tired fingers.

01:05:18.10 – 01:05:29.72

They also, they showed Taylor swift up in the box, and, uh, she used the f word yep, loudly, yep. And you have to wonder, like, is that the kind of girl that we want as the face of the NFL?

01:05:30.10 – 01:05:36.84

Nope, I don't think so. I saw a good caption online and said, Uh, Taylor swift when she found out the lighthouse wasn't real. That's good, it's fun.

01:05:36.92 – 01:05:51.94

It's good you hate that lighthouse, saying you have no respect for the lighthouse, No, we built it because we had an old lighthouse. And then we had a scoreboard and had to build a bigger scoreboard. And then you had to build a bigger lighthouse to look over the new, bigger scoreboard. And it's one of the biggest lighthouses in the country.

01:05:52.10 – 01:05:53.94

It's not that good a sound person.

2Speaker 2
01:05:55.00 – 01:06:08.06

Uh, yeah, as a as a father of a swiftie, I don't. I think I'm gonna have to ban it now. I mean, it's disgusting. My son did actually say fuckhead the other day, and I, I had to. I had him tell me it again, cause I wanted to laugh, and then I was like, don't ever fucking say that.

01:06:08.54 – 01:06:15.06

I said he got very confused. Yeah, no, I, I slipped up. I was like, don't fucking say that, and then he's like, Wait, what, it was a whole thing.

01:06:15.52 – 01:06:24.28

I'm not great at that stuff. Yeah, frick, but a four and a half year old saying, Fuckhead, that's funny, it's hard not to laugh.

01:06:24.70 – 01:06:31.26

I laugh at the worst moments. is that the worst? Uh, Clyde Edwards The Lair. Remember him, He exists.

1Speaker 1
01:06:31.48 – 01:06:40.50

That was a great catch that he had today. And the Chiefs were back on their fuck shit that they do inside the red zone. They they're doing the thing, trying to keep loose. Let's put in some weird plays that you've never seen before.

01:06:40.64 – 01:06:47.58

Some of that Andy Reed he likes to tinker with. During the week. He did some tinkering. This time, we had the homes lined up as a running back, right?

01:06:47.58 – 01:06:57.44

Is that how you set up? He had like a two running back back, well, Homes is offset to the side and then they they ran it inside and it was an awesome plan. It's like, Okay, that's, the chiefs are having fun.

01:06:57.64 – 01:07:11.56

I think they had, like, such an emotionally, uh, they were a little bit extra with their loss last week. Yeah, it was a get right. And then Andy Reed's like, Okay, we're going to. We're going to do some fun stuff in the red zone. Like the ring around the Rosie bullshit that we do sometimes keep the boys loose out there.

01:07:11.58 – 01:07:13.66

He's like Gordon Bombay throwing the.

2Speaker 2
01:07:13.66 – 01:07:17.28

Beach ball out on the ice, being like, remember to have fun, guys, have fun, we're playing a kid's.

1Speaker 1
01:07:17.28 – 01:07:33.56

Game, and, you know, as as a fan of the Patriots and the historical franchise that they are. It's sad to see that we've fallen so hard that now we're the team that other teams practice their most fucked up, complicated plays against. You're the get right where they get right team. But that's, you know, such as life, that's, that's how it goes, you got to take the downs.

2Speaker 2
01:07:33.56 – 01:07:44.58

With the Ops, I completely forgot about this, but I just reminded me, Um, remember when Jake said, Clyde Edwards Hell air? Yeah, that was I was going to say something just then, but it's.

1Speaker 1
01:07:44.58 – 01:07:47.70

Yeah, oh, we know. yeah, yeah, no, we all know.

01:07:47.86 – 01:07:50.12

We've never, we've never thought it was a hell.

2Speaker 2
01:07:50.12 – 01:07:55.74

Air. That was one of my first ever mistakes on this show. I think about it every day. Damn do.

1Speaker 1
01:07:55.74 – 01:08:01.32

You keep a list of your your mistakes. I have them in my head. What's your biggest mistake on?

2Speaker 2
01:08:01.32 – 01:08:12.66

The show My biggest mistake on this show? Uh, I just want credit. I had a joke that I did not say.

1Speaker 1
01:08:12.66 – 01:08:18.80

There, okay, tell me, I'll tell you, I'll tell you off air, I'll tell you offline, you could just.

2Speaker 2
01:08:18.80 – 01:08:20.68

Text me, I'll read, Okay, all right, yeah.

01:08:21.44 – 01:08:26.08

Um, I'm trying to think of other ones that I said about my body, armor, sport, water.

01:08:28.80 – 01:08:37.38

Um, yeah, the other thing I had noted, Uh, Rishi rice is good. Yes, that's good for them. What are you guys betting on back there?

01:08:37.40 – 01:08:45.52

That was a perfectly coordinated. We're, we're. We're still sweating out this over. It's not hitting, there's still a shot. No, there isn't.

01:08:45.58 – 01:09:00.98

You guys are duluth beat, you're duluth. Here is the Lulu as it gets. Uh, Jake, I don't think you've made any mistakes that have ever been, uh, actually, like, of consequence, minus the whole air thing that was so bad.

01:09:00.98 – 01:09:04.64

That's fine. Yeah, that was terrible. Yeah, trying to think, what else you made?

01:09:04.72 – 01:09:09.02

No others look at the look at the fucking Tweedledee and Tweedledum screaming at each other in the booth, You know what it is?

1Speaker 1
01:09:09.06 – 01:09:13.10

Because Jake's mistakes are like they pale in comparison, even his worst ones pale in comparison.

2Speaker 2
01:09:13.10 – 01:09:25.90

To like our like smallest mistakes, well, yeah, I lose sleep over the small ones, yeah. And meanwhile, Max literally slept through his biggest one, not pushing the button. He had a fucking nice night.

1Speaker 1
01:09:25.90 – 01:09:30.34

Of sleep. Oh, I thought you were going to say when he went out and blacked out, Oh yeah, Superbowl.

2Speaker 2
01:09:30.36 – 01:09:35.12

Yeah, also, that was one of the more fun nights I've had on part of my take out that night with.

1Speaker 1
01:09:35.12 – 01:09:42.48

You guys, yeah, it was a great time, it was so much fun watch it. I was surprised that night before the Superbowl, cause I thought that Jake might just leave the podcast after hanging out.

2Speaker 2
01:09:42.48 – 01:09:46.28

With Max No. And being like, this is the thing about Matt. He was making a fool of himself.

1Speaker 1
01:09:46.48 – 01:09:51.50

Yeah, is this? is this what you guys are normally like? This is. This was almost a year ago.

2Speaker 2
01:09:53.58 – 01:09:58.70

So so we got to stop talking about it. No Vegas, we should have a year.

01:09:59.22 – 01:10:04.62

The encore tell the story about it. What story? Oh yeah for your standup.

01:10:05.36 – 01:10:07.26

Retell the whole story. Oh yeah.

01:10:09.66 – 01:10:18.28

Actually, tell the full story. Yeah, do you I? We might make an exception and you hank or PFT, and I could maybe act it out. Reenactment.

01:10:18.42 – 01:10:28.38

Yeah, um, last thing, hank. They finally did the insult graphic to Bill Belichick on the on the broadcast.

1Speaker 1
01:10:29.04 – 01:10:32.88

Which one? the wins one, the wins one? Yeah, with Brady, without Brady.

01:10:32.96 – 01:10:33.88

Yeah, I feel like.

2Speaker 2
01:10:33.88 – 01:10:47.20

They've been, that's always been an online thing. And then when they put it on the graphic, it's like, official, that that had to hurt, right? It doesn't, because it's like, we it was. Tweet 20 years of Brady, Yeah.

01:10:47.22 – 01:10:55.80

It was Brady, yeah, so big. Sample size is Bill Belichick with Brady two, 66 and 75, without Brady 43 and 52. But it's like one of those things where it's just.

1Speaker 1
01:10:55.80 – 01:11:06.56

I view it as people that say that are just haters, cause it's like, Yeah, this was the greatest run of all time in sports, it was great. And people are trying to knock them down by saying, you're not as good as that right now, right?

01:11:06.92 – 01:11:09.02

Right, but I was just shocked to.

2Speaker 2
01:11:09.02 – 01:11:13.16

Actually see it on. I feel like they've never done that on the graphic. Yeah, I mean, neither.

1Speaker 1
01:11:13.34 – 01:11:35.86

Yeah, on the actual broadcast. One thing that you should prepare yourself for Hank is if Belichick does decide to resume his career elsewhere, not in New England. Right now, he's at 301 career wins, George Hallis second place all time with 318. Don Chula first place all time with 328 wins. So he's 27 wins away from passing Don Chula to become the winningest head coach of all time.

01:11:37.20 – 01:11:56.10

When that happens, and he's not wearing a Patriots logo and he's not on the Patriots sideline, that's going to be a real mind fuck for you. Yeah, that'll hurt, but he's, he's a student of the game, he's a football legend. He coached elsewhere before he, you know, if he coaches somewhere after, so be it okay.

01:11:56.64 – 01:12:03.26

Okay, you can't pft you, you, you know how it is. You're not going to get people to get us to hate on our, our, our heroes, that's true.

01:12:03.38 – 01:12:03.56

That's.

2Speaker 2
01:12:03.56 – 01:12:12.68

Very true, very true. Uh, okay. Next up, Dolphins 30 Jets Zero the New York Jets have been eliminated from the playoffs. Memes.

01:12:13.40 – 01:12:21.16

It's a sad, sad day. At what point is back, though? Yeah, I was going to say, at what point this week is he going to be like?

1Speaker 1
01:12:21.98 – 01:12:44.34

I would have been back, would have ran the table. But I know I've been talking for the last two months about how I'm circling this. This commander's game as the day that I come back from an unprecedented Achilles injury. And uh, now there's really nothing that he can do that would benefit the New York Jets by coming back and playing. Yeah, I thought that game was going to be at Fedex field, uh-huh.

01:12:44.42 – 01:12:51.20

And that would have been an all-time script, but it was re-injured. Oh my God, yeah, he. No, he would have died, yeah.

01:12:51.26 – 01:13:06.82

That field would have killed him or fallen on him or something. But um, during practice this week, Aaron Rogers probably did the one thing that he can't do. In terms of Zach Wilson's fragile little confidence, he played defensive back on the scout team, and he intercepted what Zach Wilson.

01:13:06.90 – 01:13:12.38

Yeah, he made a one-handed interception. No. Was it off Zach Wilson or was it a different quarterback? Uh, I'm not sure.

01:13:12.62 – 01:13:21.46

I saw Rich and Meany's tweet. Yeah, he was. He was picking on their quarterbacks as a defensive player during the week. You can't do that, Aaron, you got to drop those.

01:13:21.98 – 01:13:26.18

Damn, yeah, very, very tough times for Jets fans. Yeah, this was an ass kicking.

01:13:26.46 – 01:13:44.68

Zach Wilson left the game twice. Yes, the first time he left the game, there was some speculation about whether or not he had a concussion. He left the game. And they told Jeff Darlington that it was because of a head issue that he's working with, and not a concussion. Turns out, he was just dehydrated.

01:13:45.06 – 01:13:55.54

Yeah, he left, which, I guess, your mouth, that's where you drink from. Yeah, I guess. That could be classified as a head injury. And then he did, I think, go into the concussion protocol later on in the game after a different hit.

01:13:55.60 – 01:14:16.70

But I, I felt kind of bad for Zach Wilson during this game because they were just not blocking anybody. No, and it seemed like their script, like. The design of the plays, was for him to just get the snap and then run diagonally backwards and throw the ball either at his closest receiver's feet or throw it out of bounds. That that seemed to be what they were, what they're trying to accomplish on offense, right?

01:14:16.76 – 01:14:18.44

It was tough to watch. Yeah, it was very tough to.

2Speaker 2
01:14:18.44 – 01:14:26.86

Watch, Uh, the Dolphins, I. That was a that was a good bounce back for them. They needed to kick the shit out of someone, right? Yep.

01:14:27.02 – 01:14:35.80

And now they have, Jake, you are on the It's the Fraud Bowl, the Dolphins and the Cowboys is the fraud Bowl. The loser of this game no one will take serious, yeah.

01:14:35.86 – 01:14:48.52

But it's still on a fell for the Dolphins to lose this game, people will kind of mount and it'll beat the Ravens, Ravens on the road. Everyone will be back on. I know I won't be back on them. I truly think that whoever loses cowboys, dolphins, I'm out on.

01:14:48.80 – 01:14:50.32

They showed another tough.

1Speaker 1
01:14:50.32 – 01:15:00.22

Stat on the screen that said, Uh, he most searched touchdowns this year. He has seven more touchdowns this season than the entire New York Jets offense. He's leading the league in touchdowns, which is.

2Speaker 2
01:15:00.22 – 01:15:04.02

Crazy cause if you asked anyone that question, they would have been like, Christian McCaffrey.

1Speaker 1
01:15:04.10 – 01:15:09.62

Yeah, he's got 17 rushing touchdowns, it's crazy, it's nuts. And so they did this without Tyreek, too.

01:15:09.78 – 01:15:19.62

Yeah, and Tyreek, I think he was healthy going into the game. He was like running routes on the field, looking good, explosive. And they're like, you know what? We don't really need the best receiver in the NFL to win this game.

01:15:19.70 – 01:15:22.38

30 is nothing. Yes, yes, what are you gonna say, Jake?

2Speaker 2
01:15:22.50 – 01:15:28.40

Revenge of the Two of Fingers Part two Oh yeah, Destroyed two fingers is funny. I'll stand by that.

1Speaker 1
01:15:29.20 – 01:15:33.00

Forever, all right, sure, we'll hear about it next year. What?

01:15:33.36 – 01:15:35.06

The two of fingers. Yeah, he's never.

2Speaker 2
01:15:35.06 – 01:15:42.02

Letting that go never. Yeah, I still think that's very funny fan behavior. I know it's a sensitive subject.

01:15:42.70 – 01:15:48.62

Just the idea of someone doing that to you in like the 300 level of met life will always.

1Speaker 1
01:15:48.62 – 01:15:53.58

Crack me up. It's like the idea of somebody thinking that that was like a good thing to do.

2Speaker 2
01:15:53.86 – 01:16:01.18

Yeah, it's just it's so NFL, right? And also the fact that they found the one guy they could do it to that was like, legitimately offended.

01:16:01.38 – 01:16:04.04

Yeah, he's taken it back, Jake was legitimately offended by.

1Speaker 1
01:16:04.04 – 01:16:08.22

It Jake took serious umbrage to the two of fingers. Keep in mind at the time, it was a week after it.

2Speaker 2
01:16:08.22 – 01:16:18.58

Happened, and we didn't know if Tua would ever play football again. People said like, if he had one more hit, his career could be in trouble. Yeah, but remember he said that, uh, McGruber was funny, so he was fine.

01:16:18.68 – 01:16:22.56

He laughed the entire movie. Yeah, he laughed the entire movie. Tua is the man this is a big game for.

01:16:22.56 – 01:16:26.90

Uh, the TUA is nothing without Tyreek, Tyreek Merchant. Yeah, he's, you know.

1Speaker 1
01:16:26.92 – 01:16:32.12

He had a good game. Yeah, I've been watching the hard knocks about the dolphins, the in-season hard knocks. Yeah, it's pretty good.

01:16:32.16 – 01:16:41.58

Like, you can't, you can't dislike Mike McDaniel, he's a he's a fun guy and you want to root for him. He also did like a big profile in Alec Ingold, which was awesome that is, but it's, uh, it's just more football.

01:16:41.70 – 01:16:43.04

You get bonus football during the week, yeah.

2Speaker 2
01:16:43.36 – 01:17:02.12

Um, I stand by the fact that, uh, Steven Ross doing the waddle has ruined the waddle for me. Yeah, they just they're now showing them every time, but yeah, the the the dolphins needed. Like, kind of like the chiefs, where it's like, just get right, just kick the out of a team that has no business being on the field with you. Now you feel good.

01:17:02.56 – 01:17:03.82

Now let's go play the home stretch.

1Speaker 1
01:17:03.82 – 01:17:12.14

I do think that an owner doing the waddle, it's it's better than the owner. Like trying to rip off a gritty true or a dab true when the owners would dab, that was always a tough look.

01:17:12.18 – 01:17:18.54

True, at least with Steven Ross. When he does the waddle, you're like, is he, is that just how he walks, right? He's old and frail, right?

01:17:18.62 – 01:17:20.34

And you have that moment where you're like, Oh, no, he's.

2Speaker 2
01:17:20.34 – 01:17:32.24

He's doing a dance, yeah, when he, when Steven Ross does the waddle, you don't know if he's doing the waddle. Or if someone had, like, knocked into him, like, two hours ago. Yeah, he just still is just going back and forth, he's got a hip injury.

01:17:32.38 – 01:17:37.14

Yeah, he's dealing with, yeah, he just keeps going back and forth. By the way, the Ravens are going to win Lamar.

01:17:37.54 – 01:17:45.10

That was an awesome run. He's fun, yeah, um, anything else on the Oh, I want to say dolphins?

01:17:45.34 – 01:17:57.10

I know the Jets offense sucks. But the whole reason that I have believed in the Dolphins in the last couple of weeks is because of Vic Fangio. Today. Their defense was awesome, shut out, hard to shut out a team in the N.FL it is.

01:17:57.18 – 01:18:04.58

It is so you get credit for it for me, no matter what. So, yeah, that's why I believe in the dolphins. Is Vic Fangio? that's the name?

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