The Texas Stock Exchange + Is Short Selling a Dying Strategy?

2024-06-10 00:45:02

Prof G Markets breaks down the news that’s moving the capital markets, helping you build financial literacy and security. Tune in every Monday and Thursday for no mercy, no malice insight from Scott Galloway and Ed Elson on high flying stocks, booming sectors, and master of the universe CEOs. Like it or not, we live in a capitalist society. The key to navigating it? Talk about money. Part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.

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Today's number, 19.

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That's the percentage of employers

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who claim to have had a recent college graduate bring a,

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get this, parent to a job interview.

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Ed, true story.

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I figured out that my parents favored my twin brother

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when they asked me to blow up balloons

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for his surprise birthday party.

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Hold me, Ed.

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Little twin humor.

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Little twin humor.

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Unneglected dog humor.

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That's right.

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We're trying to clean it up.

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Still PG-13.

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Still PG-13.

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Welcome to Prop G Markets.

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Today, we're discussing the Texas Stock Exchange

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and the dying breed of the short seller.

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Here with the news is Prop G media analyst, Ed Elson.

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Ed, what is the good word?

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I'm just pretty shocked by that stat.

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19%.

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It makes no fucking sense.

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It makes no way.

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Do you think that's right?

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I don't know.

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Surely, surely there's something wrong with the survey there,

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unless I'm just completely out of touch.

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It's unbelievable.

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Yeah.

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No.

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I asked my parents if I was an accident,

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and I said, no, it's really more of a tragedy.

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That could have been our opening joke, too.

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Yeah.

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There you go.

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You were in Scotland yesterday.

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How was that?

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I am this morning.

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It was great.

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Went up there for the night

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to a place called the Five Arms in Aberdeen.

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By the way, one of my favorite things to do

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is when I look at your schedule,

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I will look at the hotels you're staying at

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and Google them and look at all the photos.

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I've already seen the Five Arms website.

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I know what all the amenities are.

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It looks quite nice.

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Yeah.

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What do you think?

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What should we have done?

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We pretty much just drank whiskey

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and had a long dinner.

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We didn't even take a walk.

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We didn't go outside.

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Also, I don't know if I told you this,

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but actually, speaking of parents,

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my parents treat me like a god,

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and that is they don't believe in me, Ed.

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They don't believe in me.

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Back to the Five Arms.

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Do you have a jokes website

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pulled up in front of you right now?

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Where are these coming from?

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100%.

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What place am I going to

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that you're most excited about?

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I love that you're stalking me.

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I love doing that.

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I don't know.

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First off, where are you guys going?

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Where's the team going?

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Oh, we're going to St. Bart's.

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That's right.

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That's what happens when you work for the dog.

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That's right.

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That's right, he sends you to St. Bart's.

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Did I tell you once

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I walked into my parents having sex?

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Seriously, Ed?

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Seriously, I'm not joking.

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It was the worst 45 minutes of my life.

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You've told that one before, but yeah.

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Never gets old.

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And just a reminder,

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just a reminder,

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just a reminder to go listen

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to the Prof G Markets feed.

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All right, get to the news.

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Gladly.

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Get to the news.

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Let's start with our weekly review

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of market vitals.

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The S&P 500 hit a new record,

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the dollar declined,

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Bitcoin topped $70,000

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and the yield on 10-year treasuries fell.

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Shifting to the headlines.

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Spotify is increasing the cost

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of its premium subscription plans,

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including the Family, Duo and Student plans.

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That's its second price hike in a year.

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Meanwhile, Warner Brothers Discovery

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also announced a price hike for Max.

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Morgan Stanley's trading platform, E-Trade,

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is considering banning Keith Gill,

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also known as Roaring Kitty,

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over concerns of potential stock manipulation.

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The company is concerned that Gill's influence

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can enable him to pump up stocks

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like GameStop for his own gain.

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And finally, Nvidia became

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the first computer chip company ever

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to reach a market cap of,

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wait for it, $3 trillion.

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As of Wednesday's close,

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the company surpassed Apple

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as the second most valuable company

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in the S&P 500, also in the world,

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behind only Microsoft.

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Scott, your thoughts.

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I think that the subscription space

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is just such a fascinating lesson

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in economics and markets

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and essentially what you had is

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everyone figured out that the future

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isn't streaming and it's also

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consistent revenue, it's not ad revenues

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where if there's a recession,

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everyone stops advertising.

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Even if there was a recession,

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people usually don't cancel their Netflix

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or their Spotify.

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And so the market got drunk on it,

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this is the future,

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and gave these companies

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an enormous valuations

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and then the ones with the biggest market cap,

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specifically Netflix,

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started reinvesting that capital

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to take an Amazon-like strategy

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of just using capital as a weapon

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and pull away from everyone else.

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And Netflix got up to $17 billion a year

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and spend on content,

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which no one could match.

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And then the markets got less excited

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about the space

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because it didn't appear

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anyone was very profitable

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and that the space had been over-invested

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because everyone was trying

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to catch up with Netflix.

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So it was a great time to be a gaffer,

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it was a great time

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to be in the business of production,

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but at some point, the music was gonna end

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and it ended about, I think,

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about two years ago when Netflix crashed

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and all of a sudden it became clear

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that things like Paramount Plus

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just might not survive.

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And the market has done two things.

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It's consolidated,

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and it's also, based on the consolidation,

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given some players,

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specifically Netflix,

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the cloud cover to raise prices.

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And this cloud cover and the consolidation,

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because there's fewer and fewer options

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at the very high levels,

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has given this pricing power

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back to the organizations

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and Spotify has increased prices.

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I think it's gonna be twice now.

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And Spotify, for the first time,

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I think in a while,

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their stock is performing really well.

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The individual dual and family subscriptions

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will increase one, two, and three dollars respectively.

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The stock popped 5% on the news.

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Its performance to date has been underwhelming

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and it's 25 quarters as a public company.

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It's only been profitable of eight of them,

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but things are looking up.

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The stock has doubled in the last 12 months.

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And you're also seeing Max

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is increasing its prices on ad-free plans.

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So the companies that come out

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the other end of this

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will be the consolidate ores

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as opposed to the consolidate E's.

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I think it'll do well.

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And that's one of the reasons

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our three stock picks for 25,

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again, invest in index funds,

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but it's fun to follow stocks,

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are Alphabet, which is up, I think,

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25 or 26% on the air,

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and then Warner Brothers and Disney.

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And Warner Brothers has been a laggard.

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Disney's done okay,

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because I think that the pricing power

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that they will register at Disney Plus

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and at HBO respectively

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will start to give the markets a reason

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to look at them again.

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But this is just a case study

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in overinvestment and then a crash

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and then consolidation

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and then pricing power coming back.

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Any thoughts?

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I just couldn't believe

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the stock performance of Spotify.

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It's up 110% in the past year.

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It's doubled.

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It's pretty fascinating to me.

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I mean, we discussed their earnings

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from last quarter on this podcast,

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which was also pretty phenomenal,

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20% revenue growth.

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They had this massive reduction in spending.

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And now they're doing

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what great companies get to do,

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which is raise prices.

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So I think we'll see how that will affect

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the usership in the next earnings.

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It's got its next earnings call

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a month from now.

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But I have a feeling

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that it's not really gonna hurt

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MAUs that much.

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I feel like price hikes are always

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less damaging than people predict.

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And that's certainly been the case

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for Netflix, as you pointed out.

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Thoughts on Keith Gill and E-Trade?

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So I thought this was really interesting.

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When we first talked about it

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in the editorial meeting,

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I thought, this is bullshit.

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You know, it's the SEC's job

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to decide what market manipulation is,

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not E-Trade.

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And then it dawned on me.

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E-Trade is full of shit.

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This is what's going on,

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or what I think is going on.

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E-Trade is worried about

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what happened to Robinhood.

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And that is, when the meme stock phenomena

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went just literally parabolic,

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the ability to pair trades

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on these highly risky, highly volatile stocks

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meant that the trading or the clearing firms

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asked them to have a certain amount of capital

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reserved in case the stock accelerated

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before they paired it with another trade.

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And I think E-Trade is worried

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that they might get caught with their pants down.

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Because if you remember what happened to Robinhood,

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they effectively said to people,

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you cannot buy GameStop,

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or I forget which equity it is.

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And to a certain extent,

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they probably should have gone out of business

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when they did that.

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And I think E-Trade looks at what's happening

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and says, someone in their compliance

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or their risk department comes back and goes,

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if this shit gets real again,

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and it starts going fucking crazy,

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we could potentially find ourselves

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in a Robinhood-like position

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where the people who clear our trades

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demand so much equity that we don't have it.

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But this notion somehow that they have decided

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they're the arbiters of market manipulation

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makes absolutely no sense to me.

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What are your thoughts?

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Yeah, I found it really interesting,

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the debate that's going on at Morgan Stanley,

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as you pointed out, why they should ban him,

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but also why they shouldn't ban him.

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Because it actually isn't a question of legality for them

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because their terms and conditions are very clear.

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They can basically restrict whoever they want.

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That's what you sign up for

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when you sign up with their platform.

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But their concern is that if they do ban him,

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that they're gonna make enemies with the Reddit army.

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And that by antagonizing him,

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it's gonna start this chain reaction

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and all of his hundreds of thousands of fans

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are gonna leave and follow him to a different platform.

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And I just find it so interesting

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that this issue is kind of becoming a theme

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for every platform.

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And the first obvious example that comes to mind is Trump.

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But it's sort of like, if you're a platform,

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if you have users, you have to develop a strategy

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for dealing with these larger than life characters

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with these huge followings who misbehave.

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Because even if you rightly punish them,

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you risk losing millions of users

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and eventually probably millions in revenue.

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So it's interesting to me that a stock trading platform

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could be dealing with the same issues

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that we've seen over and over again

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on the social media platforms like Twitter and Facebook.

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And I just think that every platform,

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no matter what industry you're in,

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should have a game plan for situations like this.

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Because it feels like it's happening

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more and more frequently.

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Your analysis is the right one.

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But the folks at Morgan Stanley are really smart.

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And they sat down and said,

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okay, what are the risks of a Robin Hood-like moment for us?

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That is a terrible scenario for us.

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What are the risks we're gonna lose

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a bunch of meme stock traders?

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They probably looked at their,

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I would imagine their trading base and said,

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it's not a big part of our business.

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I think they would have rather not done this,

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all things being equal.

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But I think they decided the risk,

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the kind of tail risk or the black swan risk

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of an event where the stock goes to,

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one of these meme stocks goes absolutely parabolic

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and there's just a 30, 50, 100x increase in volume.

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And all of a sudden the people

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clearing their trades freak out and say,

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you need 30, 40x the capital reserves here.

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They thought, okay, that's just not a scenario

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where we all wanna be woken up at 2 a.m.

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and try to figure out how to get more liquidity.

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Okay, so we piss off Roaring Kitty and his followers

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or some people on Reddit.

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They probably did some analysis

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and tried to figure out what percentage

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of our trading volume is these individuals.

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And they said, no, we'd rather piss off

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this small group of people

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and not be subject to this tail risk.

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Thoughts on Nvidia to $3 trillion in market cap.

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I just, I've never been a company this successful.

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If you define success by the ability

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to add that type of value in a short period of time,

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it's added $1.8 trillion year to date.

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It added three quarters of a trillion dollars in May.

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So it's now larger than the entire stock markets

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of Canada and South Korea.

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Its market cap is larger than the GDPs

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of all but six countries.

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I mean, we were talking with Bill Cohen about Paramount.

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We're talking about 5 billion is worth 15 billion.

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You know, this company loses that

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in a trading hour or gains it.

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And it just, it's absolutely striking.

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And we're gonna see all sorts of stories here

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about thousands of employees in the Bay Area

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who are now worth 10, 50, 100 million dollars.

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The numbers here, people can't even wrap their head

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around what the numbers here are.

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And then one of the things that Mia pulled up

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that just fascinates me is I believe that the S&P

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is up about 13 or 14% year to date,

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but half of that gain is Nvidia.

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So the S&P outside of Nvidia

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is basically up a little bit more than inflation.

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So essentially, if you have money in the S&P,

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you're kind of flat if you don't own Nvidia.

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But if you own Nvidia, or you're part of an index fund,

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and this is why you should be in an index fund,

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because you're balanced across

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based on a weighted adjusted ratio of the market cap,

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you're up 14%.

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But if you're buying individual stocks,

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most likely you're probably not doing that well

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unless one of those stocks was Nvidia.

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And it goes back to, I think it's a lesson

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in the power of index investing,

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because what I have found,

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having been through a lot of ups and downs financially,

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is that the pain of losing a lot of money

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is much greater than the joy of making a lot of money.

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And so diversification and index funds

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and getting that 14% feels really good.

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Now, it doesn't feel as awesome as getting 300%,

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but what really fucking sucks is being the guy

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that's not beating inflation or has lost money.

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So this thing is an absolute phenomena.

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Josh Brown had a really interesting point.

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I said, this is Cisco all over again.

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He said, yeah, there's a key distinction though,

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and that is as the market cap has accelerated,

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the PE has actually come down,

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which means that their earnings growth

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has been greater than this exponential

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market capitalization growth.

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I think this is a bubble.

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I think it's a matter of when, not if,

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but I think it's gonna happen

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when a big company who's a big purchaser

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announces they have their own ship

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and that it's pretty good,

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or when Mary Barra from General Motors says,

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we're dramatically decreasing our spend in AI

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while it's still important to us,

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we've realized that it's not gonna revolutionize

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everything we've done.

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That's when I think you see the bubble pop here.

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But this is, as of today,

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this is the most successful company in history

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as registered by an acceleration in value.

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What are your thoughts?

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I just love seeing the star power

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that Jensen Huang has accumulated in the past year.

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Two awesome examples of that.

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One, that viral photo of Jensen signing a woman's shirt

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who comes and accosts him

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while he's walking out of an interview.

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If you haven't seen it yet,

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you should go check it out.

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He literally looks like a rock star.

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I mean, he's wearing the leather jacket,

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but it's sort of like,

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it's Cristiano Ronaldo, like Justin Bieber level fame.

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And the second thing that I found

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also pretty interesting is what he did to Samsung stock.

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And that is Samsung rose 4% in one day

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after Jensen said in an interview,

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not that he was partnering with Samsung

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or that he was even conducting

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any sort of business with Samsung.

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All he said is that he has been looking

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at the chips that Samsung has been producing.

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And through that comment alone,

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he was able to create $15 billion in market value

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and increase the stock 4%.

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Here's a question for you.

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Do you think Jensen Huang is at this point

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the most powerful non-politician in the world?

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It's a really interesting question.

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I think some people would argue

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that it's Mark Zuckerberg or Satya Nadella

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because of their control over such huge swaths,

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huge businesses, and also their ability to sway elections

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or not sway elections or depress teens

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or whatever it is they do.

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But what Jensen, in my opinion, sort of indicates

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is the financialization of everything.

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As a society becomes more capitalist,

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what it offers is different gradients of life.

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What do I mean by that?

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When I was younger, my dad would have people over

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who worked for him, and then we would occasionally

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go over to his boss's house.

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His boss had the nicest house on the block,

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but it was still the same neighborhood,

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and we were all still members of the same country club.

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And he had a Cadillac, right?

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Instead of a Thunderbird, he had a Cadillac.

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My dad had a Gran Torino, but his boss had a Cadillac.

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But now, the guy who runs the company flies private

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and stays at a series of hotels that people just,

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most, 99% of people could just never even afford.

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The five owns, yeah.

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Well, not even that.

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I mean, what you can do with money now,

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that wasn't even an option back in the 70s and 80s.

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Like, money bought you some stuff,

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but it didn't buy you what it buys you today.

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And so I think the reason we're morphing

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to a different species is, one,

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mostly because of loneliness,

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but two, the financialization of everything

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has created different criteria.

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What do I mean by that?

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The sex symbols used to be military.

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Your ability to protect the tribe

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made people attracted to you.

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Now, the people we're most attracted to

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are the people who can offer a better life

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to the entire tribe.

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And that is, if you're very wealthy,

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you have power, a ton of power.

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And you can offer such an extraordinarily different life

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to not only your immediate family,

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but the people around you, your employees,

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that these people have become the new generals,

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the new athletes, the new movie stars.

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They are the sex symbols.

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They are the new heroes in a species that has evolved.

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