"Rose Byrne"

Hey, guys, good to see you. Sweet-looking microphones. Love you, too.

Yeah. Anybody wearing underwear today? What up, shawty?

Yeah, where'd you guys get those microphones from?

What up, shawty?

What's shawty mean?

Well, let's not... Why is that? Why do...

Well, because it's cool, man. What does shawty mean?

Shorty is the...

No, it's shawty. I think Justin Bieber says shawty, doesn't he?

Oh, my God. Shorty?

What does it mean?

All right, it's an all-new Smart List.

Smart List.

Hey,

I do. He's great. Max Roll. He's amazing.

Now, have you given Max a chance to get up there and do his thing?

Yeah, one time. Well, so one night... Remember, I chain-smoked, right? I chain-smoked on stage, and it made my vocal cords just massively inflamed, and I couldn't barely talk. So I was like...

Oh, my God.

So now I don't... Now I took out all this stuff from the cigarette, so now it's the vape pen that lights up when you suck in, but it's just air. So I took out all this stuff.

But you're still sucking.

I'm still sucking.

Hey, uh...

I just wanted to get that audio clip in. Can you copy and paste that and put it in the file that I've got going of these guys saying stupid shit?

Is that a sound meme?

I'm really punchy today. I took a Valium last night just so I could sleep, and I was like, are you still up?

Did it not work?

Yeah.

No, it worked, but I'm just like, hey, how's everybody doing today?

Wait, you just have, like, a loose bottle of Valium hanging around?

Did you not understand how prescriptions work?

No, I take one every few weeks.

What's the prescription? look like on that?

What do you mean? It's a Valium.

Yeah, but why do you have it?

Because, like, if I have trouble sleeping, like, every several weeks... Like, I take one every couple months just to get back in the sleep habit.

That's a sleep aid, huh?

For me, it is.

Do you know what a sleep aid is, J.B.?

Yeah, it's called... What's it called?

Ganja?

Ganja, gummies, Ambien, Xanax. I had not heard of the Valium. I thought Valium was for pain.

Last time I called J.B. Last time I talked to Jason after 7 p.m., he was like, Irie, man.

No, J., Valium's, like, it's the same family of Xanax and all that.

Oh.

That's a real fun family, by the way.

It's the only family that would accept me.

Oh, we're saving a seat for you, Sean.

Good luck, buddy. Hey, listen, I'm feeling really punchy today, too. It's so hot out here on the East Coast.

It's unbelievably hot.

Can you get it cooler before I get out there, Willie?

I don't know, man. It's so, so hot.

Is it thick?

Very thick, and I was just riding my bike into town, and I was like, halfway there, I was like, this is a bad idea. It's really hot today.

I'm excited.

Our guest.

It's better not be a classy guest. This is a funny person.

This is a funny person. Well, she is. She's both. She's very classy, and she's very funny. And I think that she started much more sort of serious, just based on her credits in the movies she did and the shows she did, and then started to get into comedy, and was just an absolute home run when it comes to comedy, but then can kind of flip back and still do the serious stuff, which is really, if it wasn't so admirable, it'd be annoying.

You know what I mean? Double threat.

All the while being like a really cool person. We've never really worked together, except for we did represent a country once together, and I'll explain that in a second.

So she's Australian. She's Australian.

She's the pride of Australia. We know her from so many shows. Rose Byrne. I love Rose Byrne. It is Rose Byrne.

I love Rose Byrne. Got it. Hi, Rose. Hi.

I'm just like a top knot.

Well, look, how good you look in a bob.

Yeah.

You look good in a bob.

It does look like I've kind of got a bob on, doesn't it?

How's it going? Hi.

How are you?

I haven't seen you for so long.

Hi, Rose Byrne. Rose Byrne, where are you right now? Hi, friend.

I'm in Brooklyn. Oh.

Brooklyn, New York. Yeah.

Brooklyn, New York. I'm on the East Coast. Yeah, I just got back from Australia. Yeah. The country we both represent.

Can we stop there for a second?

Well, she allowed me to come along for the journey. She was really representing.

I was just- Well, tell people what you're talking about.

Rose, there's no shortage of really talented, handsome, funny men that are actually Australian. Sure. So how far down the list do you go? Before you hit the top of the list, how far down the list do you go? then to get to Will Arnett on the American list.

Canadian. Oh, that's great. It's a spot that you both did, a commercial that you did for travel to Australia, right? Yeah.

It was a campaign for tourism Australia. Thank you, Sean, just in case our audience was confused. Who gives a shit if they know what we're talking about? when it comes to this? They don't need to know everything.

How do we cast Will Arnett in that, Rose?

Well- It was just my voice.

Oh, okay.

It was playing an American. The character is this foreign American who comes in and he's a unicorn.

Yeah. Yeah, truly? I am. And my character is, too. Yeah.

So you play an animated American unicorn. What a commercial.

That's true.

Do you do an Australian accent, Will, at all?

Yes. I mean, I don't. really. I don't.

A very good one. Naughty.

Naughty.

Can you do one?

You probably can. Aluminium.

Yes, he does a very good one. Do it. Just a little. Come on, you're in front of the green screen.

Oh, that's a knife. You love doing the knife one.

Oh, yeah, that's not a knife. This is a knife. Yeah, that whole thing. That's bad. I mean, but then it becomes a whole thing about the dingo and it ate my baby and all this sort of stuff.

Wait, what movie was that from? Was it that, Nicole Kidman?

No.

No, Meryl, Meryl Streep. Meryl Streep.

Meryl Streep said with a straight face-.

It's a really famous but very infamous case in Australia about a woman who was jailed for murdering her child, Lindy Chamberlain.

And she tried to blame it on a dingo? Yeah.

Yeah, well, and they didn't believe her, and it became this sort of national kind of witch hunt for her, and then she eventually was acquitted, many years later. But it was a famous film with Meryl Streep.

And her big defense was a dingo.

Yeah, defense was a dingo.

A cry in the dark.

Yeah, a cry in the dark. That's what it was called.

It was sort of an Australian equivalent of Where's the Beef, I think.

So it was not a comedy? It was not. She said that seriously.

Oh, she found the laughs. Meryl found the laughs.

But it was a very serious case and we're not downplaying the seriousness of what happened.

No, no, no, no.

Spare us your letters.

I thought he was going to say except for. No.

So what happens is when I knew that you were coming on today and I'm going through all this stuff, I'm like, oh, yeah, Rose was in that. Oh, yeah, Rose was in that. I mean, you have made countless films. Yeah. And television.

Making the hay, guys. Making the hay.

You've got to keep dancing.

You've got to just crunch it up.

So what was the first, what was the first one? What was the big, what was the first professional gig that you can remember?

The first job I got paid for, I did this movie called, pretty strange little movie called Dallas Doll. Not to be confused with Debbie Does Dallas. No. Sure.

Or North Dallas, 40. Yep. Dallas Doll. I'm seeing a pole. It's a gold pole.

No, it was a cool little script and I play. Sandra Bernhardt came out to do it to Australia in like the early 90s. And I auditioned and got this part. But I had started acting classes at a youth program here in Sydney when I was like eight years old. And then a casting agent came to one of my classes and cast me in this movie.

So you had this, and you ended up going to, you did this acting class. Did you end up going and studying acting as well? Like in, like an academy?

Well, I didn't get into NIDA, which is like the sort of, you know, most sort of well-known Australian, the National Institute of Dramatic Art, which has very famous alumni. But I didn't get in, guys. Didn't get in. So I just.

By the way, they're kicking themselves now. And by the way, if you know, in Australia, they kick themselves the other way. Yeah, they kick the other way.

Not a lot of people know that.

Not a lot of people know that, they kick the other way. But you know, I've worked with Jason too. I've worked out two out of three of you guys, which is pretty cool.

This is Where I Leave You. Yeah.

Oh, This is Where I Leave You.

That's so nice.

How long ago was that now? That was the comedy about sitting Shiva. Yes.

That's right. Jane Fonda.

The Sean Levy vehicle.

Sean Levy. The great Sean Levy. Sean Levy, yeah. Adam Driver, Corey Stoll. Amazing.

Amazing cast, wasn't it?

Yeah.

That is an amazing cast.

Yeah. We had a great, great cast. So you guys.

So to go back. So you go back. You get this movie with Sandra Bernhardt. She flies all the way to Australia. You do this movie.

Literally just stared at the phone.

Ready to roll. Then, no, like. I finished high school and I started auditioning for other TV jobs and stuff in Australia and I got a few bits and pieces. And then, when I was 18, I got cast in this film called Two Hands opposite Heath Ledger, directed by this wonderful writer-director, Gregor Jordan. And that film was a really big hit in Australia and that was like a sort of turning point, I suppose, for me back home.

So you have this big hit in Australia and you're like, I'm out of here.

Then I did the classic thing of going to LA to just try to audition for years, like trying to get an agent. I remember I got my first agent and I was so excited. I was like, I'm all set. I've got this agent. She's really great.

Name her right now.

Name her right now.

Where's the great Bobby Cannavale this morning?

Bobby, well, he's unpacking because we just got back. So he's like in the trenches with the kids unpacking. But he says hello to all of you.

Yes, Bobby Cannavale, who was on Will and Grace Forever, playing Will's boyfriend.

Yes, yes.

And he played my superhero boss or supervillain boss.

That's right.

Melissa McCarthy, where I had crab arms.

How did you guys meet?

Bloody funny. We met through an actor called Tate Donovan, who was on Damages, which is a TV show I did with Glenn Close.

Yes, you did.

For a long time. And Marty Short was on that.

And Glenn Kessler.

Yes.

Glenn Kessler and Daniel Zellman.

Zellman was one of the creators.

Look at all these connections. Look at all the guys.

We're just crunching it out. Look at this.

Now, where are – is Bobby juggling? – you have two young boys, right?

Yes, and he has a third boy, Jake, who is 28.. Yes.

Oh, my God.

So he's got boys, boys, boys.

How do you guys do it? You guys both work so much. I mean, I'm sorry if you get this question a lot, but it is just – I don't know how people do it where. you've got two young kids, and both parents are working all the time out of town. It must be tough.

Yes, they're both like sort of – but they've been – it's like I've had a job.

It's harder, right?

It's hard, yes, because then they're in school. But it's a little bit case-by-case basis. I don't know about you guys, your families and children and stuff, but a little bit case-by-case, just do your best, like trying to juggle it.

Right, sometimes in the summer they can come, but, yes.

A little bit, and they've gone to schools in L.A. on and off, so it's like a little bit of that. But it gets harder as they get older, right, Will?

It does get harder. It does get harder, and it's a lot more of a negotiation, because what happens is they have friends. Jason knows this too. They have friends, and they're like – you're like, hey, we're going to do this. And they're like, no, man, I want to be with my buddies, and we don't care about your thing.

Yeah, craft service is great. I know.

That's such a drawcard, right? They love that. They talk about that. They just go, I want to go back to the table with the snacks and things.

I'm going through a thing right now where my 14-year-old is on a trip, and I haven't talked to him for three and a half days now because he's not allowed to use his phone. Oh, wow. And I am suffering. Yeah, I bet. He's having a great time, and I am going crazy.

Wait, Will, you have no idea – you have no way to check in with him yet? No.

Don't they have like a chaperone?

When he got there, when he got there, he was able to check in, and I FaceTimed him, and it was great. And then he checked in again. later. He was like, hey, we've got to give up our phones now because the deal was on this trip that everybody gives up their phones and that these guys, these sort of counselor guys, take them. And so we're like, yeah, this is really good.

We're like, how do we get in touch? What about the chaperone? Can you text the chaperone?

I mean, we can. We know he's okay. We've gotten word and stuff. He's fine. And right before he gave up his phone, later of the first day, I tried to FaceTime – I tried to cram another FaceTime in.

Guys, Will's sweet. I know he doesn't seem sweet, but this guy got a real soft, chewy center.

You're all sweet.

Rose, what's going on this summer? Do you have any time to take any family trips aside from Australia?

Well, this was a pretty big one. It was like a month. I was in the outback, Will. I thought of you. You were?

Were you in Uluru?

We went to Uluru, which is this gorgeous, I mean, incredible, very sacred spiritual site out in the middle of Australia. It's wild. If you ever get a chance to go, any of you, please, please do go.

So what's so funny is when Rose and I did this thing, we actually had this friend of hers who directed it, shot all this incredible footage all over Australia. And then we kind of narrated our way as our characters went through with this great footage. So it feels like Rose and I have been on a tour of Australia together before. So that's why she's like, we were in Uluru. I was like, remember when we went there?

Do you – I have dumb, dumb questions. Do you miss it when you're not there, like just to have family, just to go back a lot? Oh, I do. Have you ever been? I've never been.

I want to go.

Oh, Sean, you've never been to Australia?

I've never been. It's a very long flight. Have you, Jason?

I have a bunch of times. Yeah, I love it.

I love it.

I would love to go there.

I will say, though, and this might be controversial, when you fly that long, you would love for it to be – you would like the distance – you would like the difference of the locale to be equal to the distance of the flight. You know what I mean? Like. in other words, it's very similar to the U.S. in that people speak English and they look sort of Anglo and they're all kind of – except they drive on the other side.

I feel you were underwhelmed.

I'm getting a feeling you were underwhelmed. I guess. in fairness, I was in Melbourne and in Sydney a lot, but I haven't been to the Outback. I haven't been up in Brisbane. I haven't been to Surfer's Paradise.

You were in the city, and that makes sense. Look, this is a problem that we have in the world in general, which is, all the cities have become so it's the same stores in every city, right?

Yeah.

You can go to Paris, or you can go to Tokyo, or you can go to London, or you can go to St. Louis, and there's a Fendi store.

Yeah, and Sean, good news, there's a theory there and a couple of shim shims.

Oh, fantastic. I'm in. I don't mind the flight.

There's a Vince.

You can get into a Vince.

I have never seen a Vince in Australia. That's a stretch.

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Um, but Rose, like- like, when you go- when you go there and come back, what is the-? what is the culture shock? When you first moved, like, what is the difference between-?

I mean- We'll still go on other vids.

It was such a good call. What is the thing that you noticed the most? What are the differences you noticed the most?

About Australia and the US?

Well, Australia is a little more laid back, I think. In general, the people are probably a little bit more laid back. And it's just a bigger- it's a bigger-. this place is just- you just can't compete with the scale and the amount of people and the, like, you know, things that Australia feels. It's- it's just a smaller population.

It just looks hot. Yeah, it's hot.

But only during our winter. Only during our winter.

It can be, but you also, like, the people are, like- there's just, um, in that same sort of way that- that the English have the same sort of thing. And I think Canadians have this a little bit as well, maybe a commonwealth thing. There's just- people have a better sense of- of taking the piss out of each other and themselves. Yeah. They don't take themselves as seriously as Americans do.

Yeah. Yeah.

On the whole. And I know that that's a very sweeping generalization. So, again, hold back your fucking letters. But I think- I think that- These letters that people are writing. That there is that thing about you don't take yourself too seriously.

Do you feel like they're more a united country than we are?

Ooh, that's a good question. Oh, look, it's definitely-.

Why'd you get real with her, dude? I'm just curious.

Because it's smaller. And everything you're saying, Will, I just thought, like- I was gonna-.

I was gonna say, though, it sounds like there's a lot more common sense sort of policies and way of living there than perhaps we get into here just because of the opposite sides of things. It's very separated here, at least right now.

Yeah, I think the vision here at the moment is pretty extraordinary and pretty like- It's not as extreme. Australians are used to government in their life, a lot more than Americans are. So, for instance, you all have a speed limit. Everyone took the vaccine without any problem. Things like that.

Very similar to Canada.

Yeah, very similar to Canada.

Rose Byrne, by the way, I saw you in. You Can't Take It With You.

Oh, you did?

You were fantastic. Yeah, I love that show. It was my first show I ever did in high school. Oh, really?

That's what everybody.

would say to me. They're like,

I did this in high school. It was like- Yeah, but to see it professionally done like that, it was fantastic. James Earl Jones, it was such a great cast.

You've done a- Well, I was gonna-. This is what I was getting into. You've done a lot of theater. In fact, you and Bobby did Madea at BAM. We did.

We did Madea.

At BAM, yeah. And do you have any great theater stories? Sorry, Sean, I'm stealing your thoughts.

Yes, yes. What went-? Yeah, I want to know what went wrong on. You Can't Take It With You.

Say favorite color for Sean.

Go ahead, Rose. And also your favorite color.

My favorite-.

That's what my six-year-old asks me a lot. My five-year-old, sorry.

Yeah, sounds about right.

God, any theater stories? I mean, I've had that person, like, you know, have a heart attack in row. three, you know, and the paramedic- This was in Australia when I was doing a play and they had to come in and, like, we were still like doing the scene. It was three sisters that check off play and somebody, you know, all of a sudden, the person just starts going like that. No way.

And did you have to go-.

We kept going.

It was really weird. Yeah, I was gonna say, do you finish the show?

It was so weird.

Not only did we finish the show,

we didn't stop.

Keep going. We didn't stop the scene. It's Australia. They're like, unless you're bitten by a snake, you just keep going, right?

It's the snakes that stop things in Australia.

Not the heart attack.

The most powerful.

But did you keep going with the play? We kept going.

We kept going and this poor old gentleman, I think, yeah, they came in and they took him out and everybody stood up and they put him on the stretcher and took him out. Sure.

Did they check him for an overdose of Vegemite? Because I know that can be sometimes.

High sodium content. Do people still say fair dinkum? I mean,

I don't think so. I mean, I'm sure they do.

It used to be a big one, right?

Yeah. It's a little bit dated, the slang.

What does it mean?

Fair dinkum means like really? Or is that right? Isn't that a replacement for that?

Remember, Rose, when we did that thing, we did that Q&A and they asked me some Australian, and they asked me fair dinkum, and I said that fair dinkum is a term that's used to describe like somebody who's okay to hook up with. It's a fair dinkum.

You know what I mean?

but I like it. I thought fair. dinkum was like.

early 80s.

Yeah, like, more like. oh, do you? Yeah, it's a little 80s, probably, a little bit. It's a little bit dated.

Fair, dinkum. Rose, I got a good one for you. Yeah. I think I told these guys. What do you call chickens?

What?

Chicken Caesar salad. Yeah.

I've been using that the last 48 hours and getting a lot of folks.

Rose, ah, Jesus.

Will, do you have any dad jokes?

I don't have any dad jokes, not right now.

I'll have more by the end.

Mine are more just in the moment, like just.

kind of stupid. But here's how great Sean is. Sean just FaceTimed me in the middle of the day or night. the other day. I couldn't tell.

That's right.

That's the kind of socializing I enjoy.

That's it.

It's a little hit and run.

And that's exactly right. I know you.

That was so good. I love Sean.

We came up the other day with, I told Sean this, that somebody who's had just a little bit of, just a little bit of surgery done to them, you know, just a little bit of work.

Somebody?

Just anybody, anybody who has, you, can just go, we look over, they've just said, oh, somebody had a visit from the youth fairy. Yeah. I like that. Just a nice little visit from the youth fairy.

He got bit by the youth fairy.

But here's the thing, Rose, what do you use on your skin? because you look like you're 12 years old? Yeah. Your skin is flawless. Wow.

Oh, my gosh.

You look great.

Thanks, guys. Congratulations.

What do you do? What do you do? What do you do? Do you do all the scrubs and the peels, and the thing and the thing?

I think it's the lighting in here. I'm not trying to be, I think it's all lighting.

It's all lighting, buddy. He wants to know the name of your turner.

You go to sleep early, you eat right, you kind of do all that stuff.

I mean, all those boring things, I guess, but I, it is very, it's very dark in here. It is dark. It's got a soft light. It's a really soft light.

What do you pig out on? What do you just love to pig out on? Look at this.

Look at this.

Same. She's having a big, they're both having Coca-Colas.

But this is because I got food poisoning on the plane on the way back. Yeah.

But nothing a Coca-Cola can't solve.

So I got the black doctor. Don't name the airline.

I know. I know. I didn't, I've thought.

Did you guys, did you guys go through, did you stop in LA? To LA.

We just stopped in LA. We changed planes and then on the way from New York to JFK.

Just recently?

Yeah, I got in last night, but I was like throwing up the whole time.

Last night? Oh no.

Oh, how do you feel today? I can't believe you're doing this.

Oh, no, I feel, I feel okay. Yeah, I feel okay. Yeah, I feel okay. But it was so gross. Like that tiny bag on the plane.

Oh, no. I know.

It was so bad. Food poisoning is the worst. Food poisoning takes over your whole brain and your body. It's amazing.

Yeah, it's like quite, it's like your whole body.

And you guys had, and you had the kids with you as well. It was you and Bobby and the kids.

Yeah, the kids. They were asleep, though, because it was the last leg of the flight. So it was okay. I've just never had it on a plane before. How much longer have you got left, Shaun, of the show?

August 27th is our last day.

Oh, wow, okay.

Yeah, August 27th is the closing night. And how do you guys?

know each other? Like how do you all know?

23, 24 years ago.

I was his acting teacher. Wait, how? No, I, no.

Yeah, and I still go to him. I'm still working on it. No, we used to play poker. I met Will actually before the poker thing, but we weren't, we didn't get close until we all started playing poker, like regularly every week.

And then with Jason and with everybody, and with blah, blah, blah. And then, yeah, we were just.

Years and years ago.

Years and years. And in that time, we've done two shows together, Shaun. We never even talk about it. We've done two shows together. What did you do?

Isn't that wild?

We did Up All Night on NBC with Christina, Applegate and Maya. And then we did The Millers on CBS. Oh, cool. Remember, Shaun, we went on that trip and then Shaun called, like a week later, calling back. He's like, I think I'm going to do this show with you next year.

Isn't that wild?

Shaun, did I see that you've got a compression sleeve on your right arm?

I'm both, yeah.

Oh, from playing piano?

Yeah. Yeah.

Wow. No, from lifting weights.

Yeah, exactly. Did you lift up a heavy egg salad the other day? Did you, but it's not, how are the wrists? Your wrists?

The wrists are decent. They're decent. Do you still have?

to ice your hands at the end of every show?

I ice them before and then twice after.

every day. Oh my God.

Did you,

are you a piano prodigy?

Sure, no.

That's what gave you the food poisoning, right? The acting bug?

Yeah. Nice.

Speaking of icing the hands, I took my first cold plunge the other day. Rose, are you doing your whole body?

I'm so into it. Oh my God. I'm like, I never get into that stuff and I'm addicted to it.

Rose, tell me about the first time. Tell me about the first time, because what does that feel like?

It's really,

it's like, yeah, I mean, I don't know how you, I'm very,

I didn't like it. Yeah, no. I didn't like it. So do I end up liking it after two or three or four times?

You kind of get addicted to it. I got it. I'm addicted to it. It's like you, just, it becomes like a, something you have to overcome, and the, the, the high afterward is just, and it's not even high, you just feel really, you just, you relax, you sleep really well. I found it really helps me fall asleep and your skin looks amazing, like it does something amazing with your pores.

So, so, but I imagine,

I built my first, I built my first cold plunge 10 years ago, before anybody else did. I'm now building my third one out here and I swear to God.

So hang on a second. When you say you built it, you're slapping together all the ceramic on the tub there.

and running hikes.

no, no, no, no,

no, I want to ask Rose when you first put, because I kind of want to try it, because I do my arms everyday. yeah, yeah, but I want to when you first put your toe in, I feel like it would be, my body would be so sensitive, I'd be like I'm out. I can't do the whole,

Well, if you start in the sauna, right, if you start really, really hot and then you get in it.

you start in the sauna, But, like, I'm from Australia, so we swim in the ocean in the winter. It's the winter back home now and I was swimming every day in the ocean and the water's freezing. Pretty cold, but I go straight in and it's a cold plunge. You know, it's like it's just the original cold plunge is having a cold swim in the ocean.

I do the same thing and I go back home in LA, I start every day with, I have the sun as well, which I do later in the day with the cold, but in the morning I do just straight into the cold plunge.

How long? How long do you?

Like the other day, you know, if I can make it three minutes, then I'll be, then that's good, but usually about two minutes.

In the morning.

Oh, that's it. I was told that you gotta make it four, and I felt like a loser at two.

I was told 30 minutes.

Three minutes, but I keep mine at 39 degrees, so it's very cold.

Mine's not that cold. Mine's probably 45, it's not 30..

Is there a way to do it where you build up the tolerance to the cold?

Yeah, you just go in for 30 seconds. That's even good.

But it does everything. It reduces inflammation. It does, all, the benefits of it are. so, if you can do, basically, if you can build it up, I forget what the actual number is, but it's something, it's not even that much. It's like, if you can do 10 minutes, cumulative minutes per week, it does X benefits, you know, and inflammation is the root of all, God, now we sound like Huberman.

Hey, but what, can you do like a frog boil type of strategy with it, where it starts, sort of room temperature, and then you progressively get it colder and colder and you end up staying in there for 20 minutes, you know, because you don't really notice it getting colder?

Theoretically, I guess, man. I don't know. I don't work for the fucking pool company, dude.

So. All right, back to Rose. Let's get back to Rose.

How long have you, can you do it for, Jason?

It's just the first time. I think it was two or three minutes.

Okay, yeah.

It felt all right, but-.

How did you handle that, Jason? Like going, did you go junk right away or did you go slowly?

No, I went right away, but it was after the sauna. So it was deep sweat. I was, I've never been hotter. And then went in there.

That makes sense. So, like, as I've been building it, so by the time, Jay, you get here, the new one will be built. So, as I've been waiting for it for the last year, I have, this is true, I have this big inflatable temporary tub out here and I go and I'll get like eight, 10 bags of ice and I fill it in with water and I make this big slushy ice thing and I do it like that. I sit in the ice.

Oh, that's cool. Yeah. Rose, I want to talk about your family. So listen, when you, what was it like growing up? Did you get pushed into this?

Well, I grew up in a neighborhood called Balmain and there was a lot of kids in my neighborhood who used to go to the Australian Theater for Young People, which is called ATYP. And I, a friend of mine, was like, I think you'd really like it. And I was only little, I was eight. And that's how I started, was just doing these classes after school and just loved it.

Oh, really? Anybody else in your family into it?

No, none of my siblings, not my parents, anything. The neighborhood we were in was, you know, somewhat bohemian, I guess. There was sort of a lot of artists there at the time. It's a bit more gentrified now, but that was it. Yeah, that was how I started, was going to ATYP, yeah, doing classes.

Has your favorite part of it changed at all? Or do you still love the same things?

Yeah, I mean, I still get nervous. I still get nervous before every job. I still get panicked and think, how am I going to do this? How am I not going to screw this up? Like, I feel like the nerves are still there about it.

Yeah, I mean, anytime I'm calm, I end up doing a terrible job. A little bit of nerves keeps me focused.

I think so too, you know.

But you know, it's funny though, but you know, for somebody who you say that you get nervous or whatever, I mean, and I mentioned this before, like you're always working, you have three, you have two shows in a movie out right now, as of the time of this broadcast. Like, you've got Physical, your show, Physical, right? Which is your thing about, set in the 80s, where you play this sort of like a housewife who's kind of discontented. I mean, there's more than that, but that's the log line I'm going to give you. And then you've got Platonic, with Seth Rogen, right?

Please, you have freedom to complain, go.

Yeah, that's a lot.

Well, all the press.

And do you feel, yeah, the press, exactly. So the press alone that you have to do for that stuff. And a little bit is like, be careful what you wish for. Do you ever feel like that?

I mean, I'm honestly just like, you got to make hay a little bit. It's such a sort of, but I feel like when I've, you know, it's job by job, right? Like when I got the script for Physical, this was a few years ago, but it was such an interesting premise and pilot and like a character I'd never really seen before, set in this really specific world of like, you know, how the wellness industry really began, you know, sort of reverse engineering that. And really looking at this illness of bulimia, which is something that has never really been examined before on screen in a way that wasn't like a punchline or wasn't sort of, you know, and this was doing it in a way that I thought was really interesting. And it's really Annie Wiseman's story.

Like, I don't know, I just do. I always feel so fortunate to like get another job.

Yeah, it's just so hard, you know,

it's this business that does no one, anyone favors really. Like it's. so, I very much have that.

We'll be right back.

And now back to the show.

And then, like I said, you, like you started and you did a lot of dramatic stuff and you did a lot of, like huge movies. You did, I mean, kind of, I'd sort of forgotten that you had done Troy all those years ago, which is so crazy. It must seem like a different lifetime ago, a little bit, right?

Oh yeah, I was so young.

Talk about working on that,

because that's- That was in Malta, right?

Yeah, in Malta. In Malta.

Jason's Maltese.

Yeah, I am. No. My grandma, yeah, on my mom's side.

Are you being serious? Yeah. Really? I didn't know that.

Oh, my God.

Look at his fingers. Show us your fingers, Jay. Look at those big fingers for hauling nets.

Yeah, so you try to have them a little bit fatter, so when you pull in the fish nets, you don't cut through to the bone.

That's funny.

And I've got webbed feet. If I fall off the boat, I can swim. Have you ever been there? Yeah, once, when I was a little kid. I would like to go back.

We were supposed to go a couple of weeks ago, and then we bailed, but yeah, yeah. I am gonna go, I think, in the spring.

They used to shoot a lot there. They shot, yeah, they shot there for you.

They're gonna do more.

They are, yeah.

Yeah, they're about to do more. So you go to Malta to do Troy with Brad Pitt.

With Brad Pitt. Yeah, I heard of him.

I mean, how old were you when you did that?

I was like 12.. I don't know. I was so young. I was like 23, and just, it was pretty overwhelming. I was extremely shy.

Don't you kiss me on the mouth.

You know, and yeah, I was just really shy.

Well, how did that come about? Like, what was the process of that?

I auditioned. I had done this movie called Wicker Park, this movie with Diane Kruger and Josh Hartnett and Matthew Lord, like in Montreal. And from there, I got an audition for Troy. And, weirdly, Diane Kruger also, she played Helen of Troy. We like spent two years together back in, like, you know, 20 years ago.

Uh-huh. Yeah. And you're fired.

That's so good.

What an answer. I know, it was good.

One of my dumb questions is how hard is the American accent? I like asking people that. Do you have like a word that clicks you into it? Because you have such a great American accent.

Yeah, thanks, pal. We had a lot of American TV in Australia. So I grew up watching Seinfeld, and, you know, Family Ties and stuff like that.

Yeah. So you learned the American accent from my sister. Is that what you're saying?

Sure, yeah. I mean.

You sound a little like Justine.

Well, I don't know. But I had this really hard dialogue once when I did damages. When I still say it, to try, if I'm having a problem, Patty hired 24-hour security for Katie. Wow.

So it's the Rs.

Patty hired, 24-hour security for Katie.

Wow. What is that, wait, what is that from?

That's from damages. Damages with Glenn.

So Rs are tough.

Patty hired. That's a hard one, hired.

How do you say hired in Australian?

Hired.