#2077 - Tim Dillon
2023-12-20 02:29:34
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And we're up. Let's go, Tim Dillon.
How are you, sir?
I'm good now, looking at that coat.
Thank you for having me. It's Raccoon. I went to a furrier in New York, and two little old Jewish guys, and they go, we don't have anything in your size, like a sable or chinchilla or any of the high end. But then one of the little guys goes, we may have a raccoon in the back. And he came out with this.
And this is a raccoon, but he was explaining it's from Finland. Like these raccoons are Finnish.
Is that the actual color of their fur, or did they dye that?
I think the raccoons in Finland have different colors, perhaps.
Let's Google that. What does a raccoon look like in Finland? Is that a different animal?
What do they call them? They call them dumpster dogs or something like that?
Trash pandas.
Trash pandas, that's it.
And listen, I like a raccoon too, but I also like fur. I think people should be allowed to wear fur.
Well, it is weird that you're allowed to kill animals and eat them. Why do they call it a raccoon dog?
Oh, so it is kind of similar to the coat I have.
I typed in Finland raccoon, and it just keeps saying raccoon dog. Raccoon dog.
See, in Finland they seem to be more tan.
Yeah, that looks like your coat. Yeah. That doesn't look like a raccoon. Like, if I saw that, I wouldn't say that's a raccoon. I'd be like, what is that?
Yeah, I don't know what it is.
It's kind of got a raccoon-y face. Like, scroll back up to those images. Like that picture up there, that's a raccoon-y face, this cute creature. That's a raccoon-y face. But the color of it, I'd be like, what is that?
That one looks so weird. That's weird. Yeah. So they call them a raccoon dog? I just typed in.
Bro, you got a dog coat on. That's rough.
I knew it. I think I got taken advantage of.
This was it. They kind of looked at each other a few times. And this one didn't even have the liner in. They put the liner in. Oh, Jesus.
It's a very cheap liner.
Oh.
They put the liner in. I just went in because I was curious about. I don't understand it. I get curious about different things. So these furriers in New York City, a lot of them, will kick you out if you don't have an appointment.
So one of them just said, we can't deal with you. You don't have an appointment. Go. But then these two guys were nice enough to talk to me a little bit. And I was just asking questions.
I'm like, what's the deal? They're like, well, Sable is like the top thing. And then they're like, obviously, Mink and Chinchilla and Fox.
Could they make you a custom one? So you'd have to order it.
They could absolutely make a custom one. But I wanted something fun to come on here with. So I said, I don't really even want one of these. So I just want to do, like, an impulse buy. Just give me something to buy.
I don't want to think about this. And you got the raccoon.
And then the guy goes, we have a raccoon. I don't know what it is. It could be a costume.
It might have been what the Patterson guy wore in the Bigfoot footage. Yeah.
I have no idea what it is. But it is a fun. And it's got that hood. It's got a hood like if you were a rapper or something like this.
Do you know Bill Blumenreit from Boston? Of course. Bill had a mink coat once. Yeah. And he, let me try it on.
I'm like, let me try that on.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I was like, oh, my God.
It's so warm. It's amazing.
There's a reason why people like them.
But people get real mad.
Oh, yeah. They don't like it. But it's also weird. Like, you're allowed to wear leather.
Right.
Like, what is leather? Leather is everywhere. Everybody wears leather. It's in cars. Leather is just the fur removed.
That's all it is. Right.
Crocodile scales.
There's a company called Origin. And one of the elk that I shot, we took the hide and had the hide shipped to them. And they're going to turn it into boots. Yeah. It's good use of leather.
But that's normal. Nobody gets freaked out if they see you with leather boots on.
Well, wasn't this the entire.
Everybody has leather boots on.
I mean, you know more than me. But the Native Americans who respected the animals and the environment, it was all about utilizing every part of the animal.
Yeah. They used everything they could. Right. And they lived in harmony with them. Yeah.
Especially, like some of these Native American tribes had these relationships where they were migratory with the animals. Right. Like Buffalo and the Comanche. They followed them around, man. And they used all their blankets, all sorts of things.
Yeah. Their teepees, everything.
So, to me, I don't understand where it became, you know, so controversial.
Because it's really rich people flaunting that they can go have someone murder a mink for them. Right. And you're wearing this thing, and you've got all these diamonds, and you're walking in fabulous.
It's imbalanced. Right. It's grossly imbalanced.
To a degree.
You're a rapper with like hundreds in your hands, and you're throwing them out to the crowd.
I don't know how. I look balanced with nature in this in an odd way. I don't, you know, I don't even feel like I look rich in this. I look a little crazy. I look like a guy on the brink of something.
And not a good thing. It depends on what you like.
I would look at you. That's a fun guy. My initial reaction when I saw you in it, I was like, this is awesome.
It's interesting because it does seem to me, I understand that people are morally against it. But when you start like, I don't know, throwing paint on people.
It's kind of crazy.
Red paint. I was in Beverly Hills once. They had like outside of a store. They were like chanting. And they were trying to intimidate people walking in the store.
It just feels silly.
I had a girl tell me once. She was upset at the comedy store. That I had fur. I had a hoodie with fur around the edges of it. And she just like out of nowhere.
I wasn't even talking to her. She was like, it's something shitty about the fur. I go, it's fake. I go, it's fake fur. It's a fucking hoodie.
And she goes, I don't like what it represents.
What is wrong with these people?
This was a long time ago, by the way. This is not like famous me. But I was like, this is such a crazy conversation. Like, it's fake fur.
I don't understand. I understand people that are ethical vegans. Who say, I don't want any type of animal product ever. Okay.
I disagree with that. And I think a lot of people on earth would disagree with that. I think the human race would starve pretty quickly. If we couldn't eat any animal product.
Yeah, that wouldn't work out well.
It wouldn't work out.
It is also very complicated. Because the relationship that we used to have with animals. Like the animal relationship that you're talking about with the Native Americans. Yes. Where they had this tribal relationship.
Where they followed these herds around and hunted them expertly. That is so different than going to Jack in the Box. That's true. And that's what most of what our meat is coming from. This weird subversion of, like the natural way of getting food.
The factory farming.
There's never been a time ever where in human history. Where people have stuffed so many fucking animals into warehouses. And just beheaded them.
But because our population has never been greater. Right. It's never been bigger. We've never had more of a burden to feed people. Right.
And it's unfortunate the way that it happens. I mean we've all seen like the footage of like the chickens. That don't get to walk around. That's not good.
Not good. Also, I think that up until fairly recently. Like fairly recently. Like within the last couple hundred years. It was unheard of to not grow your own food.
Right. I think everybody sort of knew that you had to grow some of your own food. Or hunt some of your own food.
Well, that's so hard now. Because how do you do that in Arizona?
You don't. Right.
Like if you live in the desert.
I mean what kind of water rights do you have?
Right. Or if you're in Minnesota and it's freezing.
Right.
So it's just. It becomes difficult to live, that. I'm sure that's the ideal way to live. But the modern world is. It's very hard.
People don't have any time. No. You know.
No. It's hard. And what. You know. Imagine what it was like before they had trucks.
Imagine like. It's crazy. Living in Manhattan in January in 1700.. And you can't get an apple. It's insane.
Like there's. There's. no. There's no fruit. You're not getting any fruit.
No apples.
Well, what's funny is like there's a show on HBO called The Gilded Age. And it's about all these. really. You know. Like the robber barons.
Like the industrialists. And like they all had these massive staffs. Of people that would just make them dinners every night. Just. It was crazy.
Like. They had entire staffs. Of, like. Usually, Irish. Chefs.
And. Cooks. And waiters. And everything. Just to facilitate the meal.
Wow. The daily meal. Like it was very royal and regal. And they would have people just there cooking for them. And making their food.
And it was. It's interesting to watch. The haves and the have nots back then. Back then it was wild. Like people say, it's wild now.
And it is wild now. Because a lot of the haves now can take a spaceship. And, you know. Take a blunt drive around the globe. That's wild.
How much carbon does that burn off into the atmosphere?
I don't know.
I mean, if you want to talk about. Some of the most ridiculous excesses of carbon. Yeah.
It's shooting rich people into orbit. That's so nuts.
That must be so much gas.
It's so nuts. But like anything else, right. They'll say well, it's good, for. I guess the. It incentivizes people to care about space exploration.
Right. Because they are going to pay a lot of money to go up there. Right. And that money is going to get utilized to discover more things. You know.
Who knows if that's.
It's a weird argument. Yeah. Because, like. I feel like. I mean, look.
I'm happy that they're exploring space. But I feel like maybe someone should sit down and go. Until you guys figure out a better way. Yeah. To get off the fucking ground.
Yeah. Let's just.
Let's just chill.
How are we saying. No one should burn carbon fuel. How are we saying. That you can't have gas powered cars in California. Right.
After 2035.. Yeah. How are we saying. That while we're shooting off these giant fucking. Yeah.
Metal tubes of. Into. Jet fuel. Into space. On fire.
Yeah. But literally. It's literally burning in the sky.
I think that's the reward. When you have a billion dollars. Is to. You, can. You.
You want to think you can leave. Yeah. That seems to be the reward. It's these guys going like. We don't have it quite figured out yet.
But they're like. God. it might be nice if I could leave.
Oh, my god. It would be hell.
You know. It would be tough.
It would be so stupid. The first person that leaves. They're going to fall. There's a trap. And here's a trap.
Just because something's hard to do. Doesn't mean it's good to do.
Right.
And you could say it's going to be so difficult for us to get to Mars. Right.
Right.
Right. Also so difficult for someone to fucking save you.
For a reason. Yeah.
That's not a good place to go. No. We have spots in earth that suck. Go visit those. Yeah.
They can get you out by helicopter if you're lucky.
These people want. I think there's that fantasy of like. Seeding other planets with biological DNA.
Yeah.
Carrying on the human race. The idea that the earth might be past the tipping point. Maybe.
I think we have to realize that time does not give a fuck. About the human race. Right. Time doesn't care. If we got hit by an asteroid and this whole planet got knocked back down into the Jurassic period again.
Right. That totally could happen. It's happened before. It's the reason why we're here in the first place. Supposedly.
Right. The Yucatan impact. That happens again. Time doesn't care.
Time doesn't care.
We care.
Can we do anything to the asteroid now that we're more advanced?
They are slowly but surely being able to recognize. The real problem, supposedly, I believe, is ones that come from too near the sun. Right. The problem is the gravity of the sun. I'm sure I'm fucking this up.
I'm sorry. I think the gravity of the sun. The mass of the sun, is so immense. That it's difficult to see objects that are behind it coming towards us. So something's passing the sun and going towards us.
We might not see it until it's too late to do anything about it. And then, even if we do see it. There's only a few different methods that they've devised. That seem to work. One of them is you like hit it with a surface.
Like something lands on it. And this changing of the aerodynamics of it. Like changes its trajectory. Right. In some way.
And another one is breaking it up. The breaking it up one scares people, though. Because they're like well, what if you break it up into many pieces. That you just go to a bunch of different spots on earth. And it has the same impact.
Just not in one spot.
Right.
Like you might actually. Maybe it would have landed in the ocean. And most people would survive.
It's amazing that nothing. We haven't had a really. And you might know more than I do. But we haven't had a really like destructive asteroid impact in a long time.
It's a timeline thing, dude. Right. Our timeline is our lifetime. And it's so long for a person. And it's so nothing for space.
Right. It's so nothing. It literally is nothing. Right. Our timeline is 100 years.
for a human timeline. The earth is 4 point. whatever billion years old. The universe. There's all these arguments.
now. The universe is even older than 13.7 billion years ago. I'm not really smart enough to understand. It's something about the forming of the galaxies. Like they seem to form quicker.
That wouldn't be possible if the universe was only 13.7 billion years. But Brian Keating doesn't agree with it. So maybe he's right. I don't know who's right. But it's either way.
We're 100 years of nothing. It's so quick. And if we get hit with an asteroid. And then everything starts. And it's another 65 million years from now.
Until a new form of intelligent life arises. The universe doesn't care about that. Right.
Me saying we haven't had a significant impact. Is like when your 13-year-old starts talking about Israel and Palestine. Like they just don't. This is. I sound ridiculous.
Because it's literally. I've been on the planet 38 years. And I'm like we haven't had anything.
As you get older. You get old enough to realize this hustle. You get. oh, this is a hustle. You're pretending like you can do something.
Right. You're pretending like you're going to make a life and leave a mark. You're just moving. Right. And you're going to be gone.
And new people are going to move into that. And everyone's affecting everybody. And we're all working towards some weird goal. Right. And some of it involves rockets and computers.
And we're just building wilder and wilder technology. But I don't know if we can escape before something hits. And I have a feeling that's what's happened many times in the past. I think that's the biggest key to the mystery of people.
And you think that we may have gotten to this point.
I think we definitely did.
Where people were podcasting in ridiculous coats. Yes. And then something comes and ruins it. Yeah. And then it takes billions of years to get back to that.
Millions.
Millions to get back to that.
Not really millions. I think, probably whatever the Egyptians were doing. I think they were the most advanced civilization that ever existed. That's what I think.
I'm out of line here, for sure. Listen. If you're an archaeologist and you're pulling your hair out, I get it. But I don't think we can do what they did. I think, if we just look at it for just the sheer dynamics.
The volume of stone that they moved. The precision in which they built it. I really don't think we can do that. Just the symmetry of the faces of the statues is unparalleled. And they're immense.
These are monstrously huge, perfectly symmetrical faces. Their temples are insanely intricate. With 20-ton gigantic stone blocks that were taken from a mountain 500 miles away. And no one has any idea how the fuck they got them.
Nobody has any clue. No guesses. Right.
There's some guesses about, oh, maybe the river system was different back then. Whatever. How are you getting that 50-ton chunk of granite out of a fucking mountain and moving it down? Even with modern equipment. How are you getting it over the mountain?
You don't even have roads. What are you doing? They were incredibly advanced.
Incredibly advanced.
With math, with science, with technology.
Certainly with geometry. They also had an understanding of the cosmos. They definitely had an understanding of the constellations. And that's one of the reasons why the fringe theory is that the Sphinx is way older than what they have it currently. dated at.
It was like 2,500 BC, which is still crazy old, right? Right. But what they think is it's probably older than that. Maybe even 10,000 or 30,000 years old. And that at these times, whenever the calendar is aligned properly, whatever the year is, it's like exactly where a lion would be staring the constellation Leo.
That's mind-blowing.
Mind-blowing.
To think about that stuff.
I don't know if that's true, though. That's a weird one. It's like, how do we know? From the burning of the Library of Alexandria, we lost so much of an understanding of what the Egyptians knew and what they recorded. So there's a lot of weird speculation amongst Egyptologists.
They have hieroglyphs that show kings that go back 40,000 years. Right. And they look at that as myth. So it gets to a certain time and they decide, okay, now, this is really, this is Tutankhamen, this is Ramses, this is the kings.
Are we talking about biblical times or even pre-biblical times? So we're really predating the biblical times.
If they're correct, if these hieroglyphs are real, instead of saying that they're myth, because they're talking about kings that ruled the earth 40,000 years ago, when we decided that those people back then were primitive. But if they're right, and if it only existed in a few places on earth, would that make sense? Right. That's how it is now. Right.
Right now you can go to the Amazon, you see people living like they lived thousands of years ago. Right. And then you can see someone here get hit by a car because they're looking at their phone. That's right. It's like they're both existing at the same time.
I think that's probably always been the case with people. There's always been people that live in Siberia, these nomadic tribal people that are very content, just living the same way they've always lived. And then there's people that live in San Francisco, that have people shitting on their street and fucking shooting up in front of them and getting paid. Yeah.
So it's interesting. You've always kind of had that dichotomy of really advanced people and then really, I don't want to use the word primitive, but certainly these uncontacted tribes and things like that.
Human beings always have inequality.
Yeah. There's always that strata.
There's always something. Right. And it's whether it's cultural, whether it's geographical, whether you're trapped on an island, like whatever. You're always going to find somewhere, somewhere on earth, someone who's just way beyond, like what we think of as like modern society, like what's acceptable, running what. These people have none of that.
Right. These people, they're making their own spears. Yeah. They're hunting. They have leaves on their dicks.
They're killing animals. Yeah. Yeah. Out of necessity.
Out of necessity.
Because those animals might kill them.
Yeah. Right. They know what leaves to take. Have you ever seen those people, I think the Waranami, is that what they're called? In Guyana?
Yeah. They throw poison in the water. To kill all the fish.
Have you gone to like, have you gone to Machu Picchu or Brazil, or the Amazon, or anything?
The only places that I've been to that are really, I just got back from Greece. Yeah. We did Greece and stuff. That was amazing. Yeah.
That's amazing. But that's, you're talking, like 2,500 years old. That's like a child compared to the pyramids.
Yeah. It's really amazing antiquity and how old things are. Yeah. And then where the line is between what is myth and what is history. Mm-hmm.
And trying to figure that out, which is, it's very hard.
I think that even the stuff that we think of as like the cradle of wisdom, like what happened in Greece when they were building the Acropolis and the Parthenon and where democracy came from, I think that is like a rebuilding of civilization. That's what I think. And I think, if you can go back in a time machine, I bet if you could get to Egypt 25,000 years ago, I bet you'd be fucking blown away. I bet they had some very bizarre technologically advanced society that had a different path they went down. So we went down the path of engines and computers.
Right. But that doesn't mean that's the only way to invent technology. No. That's just the path that we've been on. Right.
If they had figured out some other stuff, they had figured out, if they had hundreds of thousands of years of time to really evolve and become modern humans, which is what we think now. They used to think that people were only around for like 50,000 years, like anatomically modern humans. But now they pushed it back to like 200,000 years ago, 300.. It keeps going back further and further and further. Right.
So people really did live that long. Think about how quick we went from like 1800 to 2023..
Yeah. It's quick. Insane.
It's quick. But the difference in riding around on a fucking wagon being dragged by an animal or some stupid boat you had to take across the Atlantic. Right. No one had any idea where the icebergs were.
To now existing primarily in, like half in and half out of a completely digital universe.
Yes. Half in, half out, connected constantly to your phone.
And every book, like. I'm reading a book now called The Dimensions of a Cave, and it's basically about what will things look like when we are more fully on that digital platform? Like what constitutes a crime in the digital world? What does war look like when everything's digital?
What happens if something like Grand Theft Auto, if people get prosecuted for beating people up?
Well, this is what, you know, there's like weird, like ethical questions about, like when we're living a lot of our lives on these digital platforms. What is a crime? What is surveillance when everything's surveillance?
Right. Right.
What are, you know, what are the laws? What are the rules? What are the consequences for breaking them? Can you be cast out of that? You know, just like the way we debate social media.
Now imagine, it's even more immersive than social media. It's augmented reality, virtual reality, some form of metaverse, whatever it is. Can we, do we cast you out where you can't participate in this thing that everybody else is participating in? And these are interesting questions, because people are saying that we'll probably get there quicker than we think. You know, in the space of maybe 10 years or something, they're looking at these programs and platforms and going, oh, there's going to be a lot.
Like that's where the AI battle that they had with Hollywood, it seems ultimately a losing battle.
Right.
Like it, which is, you know, not something that I love, but ultimately it seems like look at the trailer for the new GTA. It's pretty amazing.
Amazing.
Imagine that even better, you know, it seems like there is going to be a time when we're watching a show of all AI people and enjoying it. And that's just what it is. And maybe we're even feeling like we're involved or immersed in it. Yeah. Maybe we're sitting there watching a guy get shot or ran over, or watching a hooker get killed.
I don't know. But you know, it's very possible we could be in the thing.
Yeah.
I mean, there's people now talking about like, what's this, Jimmy?
Shut up on Twitter recently. It's all fake news, 25 minute news broadcast. It's fake?
It's AI.
And she's even saying it. It's all generated by AI.
Yeah. So no one's going to know what's real anymore. Technology enables us to bring you a global perspective 24-7, right from the heart of our AI. Yeah.
Hold on. Let me listen to what they're saying here.
Enables us to bring you a global perspective 24-7, right from the heart of our AI native newsroom, all presented by our team of AI generated reporters. Maybe you hear the words artificial intelligence.
Wait, is that a real dude? No. No. No way. It may be.
at one point was, but this is AI generated movement, talking, blinking, all that. Oh my God.
I say maybe.
Personalized news. This is so dystopian.
Maybe do AI news, though, because the reality is, most people can't do much about the news anyway.
Right.
So AI news, where you just kind of make up stories.
Right.
Might be the future, or you might heavily censor what you want, and people could choose their own news.
Yeah, that's what-.
People are kind of doing that already.
They're kind of doing that already.
They choose their own news. My aunt chooses her news. In her news, Donald Trump has been running the government for the last four years. He speaks to the generals directly. Biden has been dead for a while, which, by the way, that's harder and harder to argue with her about.
And in her news, Donald Trump will then come back to the throne, but he's still running. anything that she goes, anything she tells us Thanksgiving, because anything that can happen with China, Russia, Trump's doing the negotiation, not Biden.
Have you seen the Biden ear conspiracy? No. The earlobe conspiracy?
But I love it. Already, I love it.
If you look at old photos of Biden, his earlobe hangs down. As he gets older, his earlobe is connected, which is impossible.
That's odd.
It's impossible. Your ear doesn't change its position unless you get surgery.
So what do we think?
I think he had a facelift.
Oh, definitely.
100%, right? Which is, by the way, that doesn't work on guys.
Right? No, it doesn't.
It doesn't make you look better. It just makes you look weird.
Your face is shiny. Putin in Russia has different doubles.
He has body doubles.
He has body doubles.
But they 100% can do that. They can do that with makeup. I've seen videos where a person is talking, and it just looks like some weird old man, and they just grab their face and peel it off. The makeup they can do is like Hollywood stuff, stuff like Rick Baker could do. Sure.
They have real experts.
No, it's insane. I did some dumb cameo in a horror movie, and they made my whole head. Yeah. They just made my head. They molded it.
It looks exactly like my head, and they cut it off. Yeah. The special effects and the ability to do things like that is- It's insane.
And they can 3D print things. now. The technology is so good, and the materials are so good, and these artists are fucking incredible. They can 100% make you look like a totally different person. Oh, for sure.
And I guarantee you they employ some of those people. Right. If you were going to have someone, and they were like a CIA undercover person going into a terrorist organization, wouldn't you fucking have them dress differently? Wouldn't you have to give them a different face? Absolutely.
Why wouldn't you do that?
Well, the things that they're doing at DARPA and all of these things are so far from what we... They had the internet in the 70s, right? They had a version of it.
Did you see this new stealth bomber? No. Oh, my God. I'll send this to you, Jamie. Hold on a second.
I mean, they're doing stuff that's far beyond our conception right now.
They're doing some wild shit that they're telling us about. Right. This is from the Drinking Bros podcast. I'm going to send this to you, Jamie.
And this is our new stealth bomber.
Yeah, this thing's insane.
And if you're rich enough, can you rent it out and take it up?
No. I don't think it has humans in it.
Damn it.
I think this is one of them jammies, where it's only... But it can carry nukes. Did I send it to you, Jamie? You sent me a different link. I did send you a different link.
I realized it was some Caitlyn Jenner thing. That's what I was saying. I'm sorry.
Caitlyn Jenner's in a stealth bomber.
Instagram is odd. Sometimes it just changes.
She can fly. She does fly. Really? Caitlyn Jenner flies. She came to my Christmas party in LA and showed everyone her plane.
Wow. She flies. Every few days, she flies around.
Interesting.
That's a wild hobby.
It's an interesting life.
Yeah. For sure.
It's an interesting one.
Don't go on your phone when you're up in the fucking sky.
I bet she is.
Well, she's on the phone.
I bet Caitlyn Jenner's in that plane on her phone.
Probably checking them mics.
Tweeting about how much she loves Donald Trump. Because that's what she was telling everybody. Isn't that wild? At my party, she was going, You know, she goes, Nobody's patriotic anymore. I love Trump.
And everyone's just like, Great. It's fun. She's a fun archetype of person. Yeah. We're at the end of time.
Check this fucking thing out.
This is crazy.
Check this thing out. This thing, it carries, I think, four nukes or six nukes. There's an animation here.
Let me find that. This is amazing.
Yeah. But the thing is, Look at the original stealth. come out. Put the link, because I want to play that. Because he describes all the things it does in terms of jamming radar.
It's crazy what this thing can do.
Was the first stealth in the 80s or the 90s?
I want to say the 90s. Does that make sense, Jamie? It is. It's essentially 100% radar proof. It cannot be detected, except for with your eyeballs.
This one right here? This one right here. Holy shit. It looks sexy as fuck.
But that's just the tip of the iceberg. So it is able to analyze algorithmically the enemy's radar package. Like how they're able to determine radar. And then it can fucking instantaneously send that information. Not just radar.
It can instantaneously detect the enemy's radar patterns. It can detect all of their troop placements, their aircraft carrier placements, their submarine placements with ground penetrating radar, and their armor placements. And immediately send a graphic of that back to every fucking other friendly force in the workspace. Or, I'm sorry, in the battle space. Instantaneously.
One of these. Just fly over an area undetected.
And be like, all right, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep.
And this shit starts popping up. It also can carry six fucking nukes.
This aircraft is essentially 100% radar proof. Jesus.
Well, we need it.
How wild is that?
Well, we need it. You know, we're heading into perilous times. And we need something that can carry six nukes.
An invisible six nuke drone. Right. That can detect everything instantaneously.
Yeah, but China's got it. And Russia's got it. They have good stuff over there. That's why we got to have that, right?
I think that might be the top of the food chain.
We'll see. We'll see.
Don't count out the Chinese. I wouldn't count them out.
I wouldn't count them out.
They do a really good job of siphoning information.
Oh, they might have stolen that fucker years ago. Corporate espionage.
They're so good at it.
Well, also, we let them in. And we let them buy companies. Oh, yeah. Which is wild.
So DeSantis, by the way, which I think this is good. He's basically, and the real estate lobby's fighting him. He went out in Florida. He's like, we got to make it harder for Chinese nationals to just buy property here. And then the real estate lobby's like, hey, man, you're fucking up a good thing.
We like making money. We like earning commission. And China's a huge buyer of U.S. real estate. So all these real estate people, the Black Rocks, are coming at DeSantis and going, hey, we can't have this.
You have to let the Chinese play.
It's real weird. They can buy property, like a certain amount of property here, in areas that were like, hey, isn't that kind of close to a military base? Oh, yeah. Isn't that close to infrastructure?
They bought the Waldorf Astoria Hotel in New York City, which is where the president used to stay every time he went to New York. They bought it. Now he stays at the New York Palace. But it was just a fun thing to do. They were like, oh, where's the president's deck?
Let's buy that.
We're going to own that. And they own it. And they just flipped it to condos. They don't care. So the thing is, so much of these cities, Miami, New York, LA, even Austin.
now, a lot of this real estate investment is foreign. People that are laundering money, washing money, hiding money. And that's why the prices of real estate keep going up, no matter what happens. Rates go up to 8%. It's still more money.
A friend of mine was telling me about this apartment building he lives in in Manhattan. Yeah. It's just filled with empty apartments. Oh. Like super expensive.
A ton of them. Empty apartments. And it's just like Russian billionaires buy them up.
It's just Russian fertilizer magnets and Chinese amusement park tycoons. Just weird configurations of humanity.
I wonder what percentage of those giant luxury apartments that are purchased are unoccupied.
Tons of them. Tons of them.
That's wild, right?
Tons of them are. And people just stash money there in case the government in their country decides to get cute.
Right.
And I'd love some of that, by the way. And that's what happens. So, when you walk around New York City, you look at all these buildings, right? Cheers. And here's what you see.
Cheers. You'll see three lights on.
Yeah.
You'll see three lights on in this massive billion dollar building. Yeah. Cost of construction was a billion dollars. And there's five people home. Where's everybody else?
Where are they? Are they at dinner? No, it was just scam. It's a vertical money laundering scheme. When I understood, because I was a tour guide in New York and I used to ask all these questions all the time, I go, so what happens?
The Chinese people come here and they go, well, we love Central Park and they want to live there. And they go, yeah, but they spend maybe a few weeks a year. That's it. Some of them spend nothing. And a lot of foreign buyers will not just buy one apartment.
They'll buy 10.. Jeez. And they'll just stash their money. They'll have a floor of the building. Maybe they'll throw a kid in at NYU and go, you go, become non-binary and disgrace us.
I'm going to stay home and run a business. You go to New York and become non-binary. Have your moment. Have your time. And we're going to sit back in China and chill.
But a lot of times these things are completely empty. It's criminal criminality.
It's wild. It's a good method to move money around, though. It's really smart.
Oh, it's really smart. And it's great because real estate is perfect to launder money. You can buy it with a shell corp. You don't have to buy it under your name. You can buy it under that.
And, by the way, you can disguise that shell corp with 100 other shell corps so that nobody's going to go through. It's like a pad where they'd have to keep flipping pages to find the actual owner of the actual company.
Well, wasn't this part of the problem with the Ukraine stuff?
Oh, yeah.
That was part of the problem.
I don't know what you mean, but I am agreeing. No, Hunter Biden, yeah.
And the family. There was a bunch of shell corps that were involved in that.
Yeah. Well, Hunter Biden's an attorney, number one, and he did some financial investments, but he certainly had a very healthy budget for fun.
And now he had a budget for extracurricular activities. And where does that come from? It's a slush fund that comes from a lot of shady dealings. This guy had no expertise in energy. He was working as a consultant for Burisma, a Ukrainian energy company, and now we've given Ukraine, I don't know what it is, it's an insane amount of money.
I think the last count was, is it $170 billion? How much money have we given to Ukraine?
And it's just interesting that that's the country that our president's son was having his little internship.
It's just a coincidence, dude.
I know.
Sometimes coincidences happen.
But it's. no, we can't, you know what it is? It's like, I watched the most, the worst people in the world, the people at Beverly Hills who, like scream at valets and yell at their nannies, and they're not humanitarians. Overnight, they all had Ukrainian flags. Yeah.
It's interesting. They don't care about Darfur, the Sudan, anything going on in Africa. They don't care about any of the problems happening in countries like Yemen, but they all immediately decided, almost overnight, that the only humanitarian crisis worth caring about was the Ukraine.
Well, when baseball season's over, you start paying attention to football.
That's what it is.
That's what it is.
That's exactly what it is.
That's what it is. It's sports for dorks. Just how much aid has the US sent to Ukraine? Total $75.4 billion.
I think there's more.
I think there's more too, but this is a few things.
And you know how much of this aid disappears?
First of all, isn't it funny that we're saying $75 billion? I think it's more. That's a low number.
But how much of this aid disappears off the backs of trucks?
Oh, it's $113 billion? I don't know. That's his past president.
And, by the way, you could start looking into how much of it has just evaporated, how much of that money's disappeared, where it went.
Well, there was this one story about this one guy who had pilfered off a billion dollars, and they didn't even arrest him. They just made him resign. Yeah. And I was like, what is that story about? I read the headline.
Right. Did you see that story, Jamie?
Whenever you're dispersing money in a war, it's always strange because you have to pay people off. Oh, yeah. It's a perfect place for things to disappear, money-wise.
One of my favorite moments during all this was the New York Times going after Candace Owens.
Oh, sure. Did you see that? For what they had reported.
No, they said to her, what evidence do you have that Ukraine is corrupt? Yeah, it's corrupt. And she said, your fucking newspaper. Your article. From just a couple of years ago.
It was like 2017 or 18, or something like that.
There was a million Vice documentaries about how Ukraine was the home of white nationalism. The thing we were all. supposedly, this was the greatest threat to human civilization, and we were told that every single day. This country, the Ukraine, was a white nationalist country that had lots of these groups that fomented terror, and they were going to start working with the white nationalist groups in America. And there were articles written about that.
There were documentaries about that. All of that went out the window.
Do you remember when? Right out the window. Who was it? Was it Jon Stewart that gave that dude the award?
He gave him a medal. Yeah, and I'm sure Stewart doesn't even know. It's like, this guy's a hero. You pin something on him. Listen, they're avowed neo-Nazis in that country.
They have SS tattoos. This is not a conspiracy theory. It's not everybody, but that Azov battalion is a huge force.
That's so wild.
It's wild, and it's one of the reasons people think. Zelensky, who's going to sign those Minsk Accords and end this little civil war issue they had going on in the northern province, in Donbass, he didn't sign any of that. People think, and people have pontificated that either those hardliners in the Ukrainian government and military go, you sign this, we'll kill you. Or the U.S. State Department was like, no, no, no, no, no.
You don't sign this. You keep doing what you're doing. And if there is a war, we have your back. And this has been, this is a well-known fact that everybody wanted some type of agreement before there was a war with these northern Russian-speaking regions and the government of Ukraine, so that there was autonomy to a certain degree, that they could speak the language, that they could have political parties. And again, I'm not saying that Russia, even though I am spiritually Russian, someone told me that, and I have a Russian aesthetic, but that's not why I'm saying this.
I'm just saying the facts are all there. And we've had this long, bloody war in which every time this guy wants to negotiate or thinks about, we go, don't. Don't. Keep going. Keep fighting.
We got you. And then, you know, Nikki Haley, all these people go, no, it's civilizational. By the way, nothing's regional. Everything's civilizational. Israel, Palestine, civilizational.
It's odd. It's like, but wait a minute. That's been a regional conflict forever. Since 1946, they go, no, no, no. It's about our values.
It's about our values. So we got to send them billions of dollars and we might have to get involved, because it's about our value. And you start going, wait a minute. It's about our values in northern Ukraine? So all of these little, and I'm not saying they're little, but all of these conflicts, we can't not get involved.
We can't in some way. We have to be involved. We have to fund them. We have to give weapons, because we convince everybody that all of these conflicts are a big battle for the future of civilization. And the next step is, Putin's going to steamroll Vermont.
He's coming to Vermont. You let him do what he's doing in the Ukraine, he's going to steamroll. He's coming to Aspen. You want to see what happens when Russia owns Aspen? And nobody thinks logically, maybe we like war.
Maybe we just like having a constant business.
Maybe Eisenhower was right. When Eisenhower warned people when he was leaving office, that should be required listening to anybody that's confused as to why we're doing certain things. They're making a lot of money right now. And if they can keep this rolling,
they're making great money. And I'm not making any of it from that.
And if you could have some sort of a motivation. Cut me in. You got some sort of a motivation like you're trying to save civilization? Oh, always. You can justify so much.
Now, notice that when Saudi Arabia is killing Yemenis, it's not civilizational. That's not civilizational. But Ukraine, Russia is. And anything that goes on in Israel and Palestine is. But when the country of Yemen is being starved out, bombed and killed with money and weapons from the U.S.
through Saudi Arabia, that's not civilizational.
That's not civilizational. But Nikki Haley's up there like, let's fight it. Let's go, China. Let's go.
Why do you think she's doing that?
Because she wants.
Has she always been that way?
She wants the big money. And the big money people like when you get. Well, she's a woman, so she's got to be top tough. Ban TikTok, I'll kill you.
She wants to ban TikTok?
Oh, ban it. Ban it. And then we're going to go there and kick China's ass for making it. I'm Nikki Haley. I'm tough.
I want Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton came out like the running of the bulls, going, fuck Putin. We should kill. Like, Hillary's on record, saying some of the most bellicose things ever about what we should be doing with our CIA and with our military. And Nikki Haley's basically going out there, going, the big money likes when you're open to a little conflict.
They like that. The Koch brothers types like when you leave the door open. You don't have to say we're going to do it, but leave the door open. All options on the table. That's their favorite word.
Their favorite sentence is like, we're leaving all options on the table. It's about our values, says Nikki Haley. It's about our values. In northern Ukraine,
they like. she wants the money. I don't know what Chris Christie's up there talking about. You know, Ozempek or whatever, but he's not getting a dollar. No one's giving him anything.
He's a weird one.
He's just there to ruin things. Here's what I appreciate about Chris Christie. He exists only to destroy.
He's not trying to build. He cannot win. He's not going to be elected. He's there to kill that Vivek Ramaswamy. He's going to kill him one day.
He's there to just destroy other people. He's not there to succeed, and he knows it. And Nikki Haley now is having the big meetings. She's having the big closed-door meetings, when they take you up to Monterreo, California, in the Bohemian Grove, and they sit you down by the redwood trees, and you go, I like your style. I just like...
Now, by the way, who the hell is Nikki? No one knows. No one cares. She was the governor of what? What was she?
the governor of? South Carolina. Great, great, great. But again, none of these people gave a shit back then, right? I think her big thing was when someone climbed to the top of the state house and took away the Confederate flag, she was like, well, that's good.
I think she didn't do anything. Whatever. She had that moment of like, look at me. I'm the governor, and I'm progressive. I'll let people vandalize the Capitol, maybe for its good reason, whatever.
But nobody knew who this bitch was until she got on stage and started saying, hey, I would love to go to war. I would love to go to war. And then, all of a sudden, all the money started going. You know Nikki Haley, who she's not a particularly engaging or electric. You know, she's fine, but she's not like, she's not like somebody who's like, whoa.
What do they do? Do they step in and say we need better speech writers? What do they do? Do they say we need some sort of a clear, dynamic message that comes from you, that's uniquely from a woman's perspective that might excite Republicans? Yeah,
the Karl Rove type. sit down and go, we've really lost our way here. We've lost our way because right after nine 11, we were able to sell people on this idea.
that America had to dominate every corner of the globe. And we were going to throw a lot of lives at that. And we were going to spend a lot of money to do that. And that's what's ultimately going to make us safer and secure us. And Americans, after the Iraq war, did not believe that.
the American said, no, we're not. We don't believe that. So then all these neocons became Democrats, all the people that had pushed that war had become Democrats, and they started coming at it from the left and going like, Russia's, they don't like trans people. Did you hear that? They don't like trans people.
They don't have a real housewives franchise in Russia. Like they went at it from another way, going like, we have to confront these countries, these evil people like Vladimir Putin, who are irrational. They're not acting in their own self-interest. They're irrational psychopaths that want to dominate the world. Even though Putin's never showed any inclination of doing that one time, ever once, but he's gonna, he wants, he's 75 and he married me out of Parkinson's, but now he's going to go and dominate the world.
Even though he can't, he can barely dominate the Ukraine after a year and a half of fighting, two years, but they go, no, no, no. He's going to dominate the world. And so the whole idea is basically just like, they have to get back on that thing, because Americans have lost the belief in that. You can't sell that to people anymore. Nobody wants to hear that.
What do you think changed?
The Iraq war. I watched it. I saw it. I was a kid. I was in high school.
Friends of mine signed up for the military. RIP to some of them. A lot of them survived. People watched soldiers dying every day. They watched a lot of people get rich.
They watched the 10 counties outside of Washington, DC become the most valuable places. You know, the biggest, you know, in terms of like net worth, they looked at all these counties around DC and they're like, wait, what we're not talking about the Hamptons or Manhattan, or Malibu, or, or the Hill country of the Texas, where we're talking about Virginia. And people watched a lot of people get rich. They watched a lot of corruption. They watched a lot of people die.
And then what did we get for it in Iraq? What did we really get? What did we get in Afghanistan? The Taliban's. they're back.
They're back. We left 20 years later with nothing. So then people start going, okay,
we didn't just leave. We armed them.
We armed them and then cowered out. Yeah. And then, like, so, watching that, watching that whole process has, I think, disillusioned a lot of people in my generation. I'm 38 and we're looking at all this shit and we're going like, dude, nothing you promised us happened. We don't feel safer.
It doesn't feel like we're safer because we invaded Iraq.
Have you ever entertained the idea that they left behind all that equipment so that the Taliban could become a threat and they would justify going back?
It's a circular thing.
Keep the door open.
It's a circular thing.
Leave all options on the table.
Let's put them on the table. Nikki Haley will be back in there in three months. She'll go in there. She'll go, the way, you know, women, you know, and while women are being dragged, because it's always a tugging your heartstrings, because we all agree that we shouldn't throw most of us. We shouldn't throw gay people off the roof and we shouldn't stone women.
We all agree with that. And that's the things they, they trot out. Yeah. They go, you know, the women are being stoned. Meanwhile, they're letting people into America who some of them want to stone women.
And some of them would throw gay people off the roof. And if you question that, you're a Nazi.
Do you ever see some of the photos of Kabul from like the 1970s?
Yeah. It was fucking the spot.
It was amazing. It was the spot. People would go there all the time. It was great. They would take vacations there.
Also Iran. before the coup.
Yeah.
Was this progressive place.
Yeah.
And we realized, you know, British and the United States, it doesn't, it's, that's not going to work for us. We'd actually rather them to be the scary. Yeah. Because the dictators will, you know, work with our companies.
That's why that Osama bin Laden letter to America.
Oh yeah.
It went viral on TikTok. People were like, wait a minute. What?
My 12 year old cousins in Al Qaeda.
He's walking around. going this motherfucker makes a lot of sense. About a lot of things, but that's the problem. It's like the problem is like when bin Laden did that, we were told the dumbest thing ever. He hated us because of our freedom.
He hates us because of our freedom.
It's our freedom. And that we, and that what we needed to do is give people our freedom so that they didn't hate us. It was this manichaean good and evil thing. And we bought into, I bought into it. I would, I cannot count the amount of parties.
I was at, Coke to my gills, screaming about the need for the Iraq war. I was like, we are over there smoking a cigarette. You don't understand. We're over there. I was like a fucking, a parachute.
I was running around Long Island, drunk in my car, coked out of my face, screaming, yelling that we needed the surge. We need a surge.
they got me. They got it. Cause I felt good about it. I went, this makes sense. We're America.
We have freedom.
Right.
I have freedom to sell subprime mortgages and do cocaine. They should have that. Right. And we need the surge and we need money and we can't give up and we can't stop. And John Kerry's a pussy.
And he went to Vietnam to just, I don't know, take photos or whatever he did. And I, I, I totally bought into all of it. I was bought into, and now I was on a lot of drugs.
You're also young. When you're young, being patriotic like that, like blindly, blindly young, is super common.
I remember this girl goes,
as she said something to me, it was one of these girls who was like a little bit more like, you know, not buying into it. Right. And then she was like, uh, she goes, do you, do you ever think what it would feel like to be in a house and just have your city bombed? Like, I know that you're saying this is all for a good reason, and this is to liberate them. But do you ever think about what it would feel like to just be in a place and then just hear bombs and then things are shaking and everything.
And, and I was like, no, no, but I was, I, but things like that will stop you. Right. Things like that stop you in your tracks a little bit. You go, oh, that would suck.
When Callen was a kid. Yeah. He was in Beirut.
Wow.
During the, the bombings.
Interesting. He was a kid.
Yeah. He experienced that.
It's interesting. cause I,
that probably fucking sticks with you.
It sticks with you, for sure.
And watching building blow up three blocks away.
There's just, this is the thing with Israel and Gaza right now. Like everyone thinks, Israel should and does have the right to respond. Obviously, they have to secure their country, right? They were invaded. We get it.
The problem becomes when people are just watching massive civilian casualties all day on tip, talk, you know, there's a certain level where people, they lose their tolerance. They go, this is a lot. And I think in the modern world, people don't have the stomach, and nor should they, to see this level of death and carnage,
especially from innocent women and children. Yes. When you see people being pulled out of the rubble, like babies,
it's tough apart. And two years ago, it was idiots dancing on it and pajamas. And these kids are going, what happened? It used to be Charlie D'Amelio doing the hula hoop. Now it's people being pulled out of the rubble and kids are like, what?
So it doesn't work anymore. Like this type of all out conflict, it doesn't work. And I, and I appreciate Israel's position, because it's a tough position to be in. That being said, it's not going to work. If we had tick tock, when we were in Fallujah, it would have been crazy.
Oh, my God.
None of it. All these,
the stuff that got out about the, the, what is it called? Which prisons? A grab with the fucking dogs.
They were doing to people. that cigarette smoking girl, Lindy England, who now, by the way, works at a strawberry festival. I found that out on my podcast. I swear to God, Lindy, England, the cigarette chain, smoking cigarette girl who tortured those guys at Abu grape, literally was one of the like sponsors of a strawberry festival. I forget where, but it's, you get some, it's absolutely true and you can check it.
And, and it's amazing. And I thought, you know, everybody has a second act in this country,
by the way,
everybody. Yeah. Does it really matter what you've done? Everyone has a second act. Oh, J's on his third act.
Trump's on his third or fifth, six act, seventh act. Everyone has a second. If you're still on the planet in this country, that's the thing about Russia. They had to kill that guy. Purgosian.
You don't get a second act there. That's not the way it is. They don't have the mechanism. They can't give him a reality show. Purgosian.
Does it get a game show? They got to blow him out of the sky in America. Like Hollywood would love Trump. Now Trump goes, I'm not going to run for president. I just want to do a big show.
They would build him a fake white house in Burbank.
tonight and let him do. And they would all, they'd give him Emmys. They pretend it was all good. They'd hug him. It wouldn't matter.
As long as he doesn't do the thing they don't want him to do.
I don't think that's true. I don't think he ever comes back. I don't think they ever let you back in.
Well, no, no, no.
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