Uvalde Report, Temporary Funding Bill and why Iran launched strikes on Pakistan

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Fatal mistakes were made in the response to the school shooting in Uvalde, Texas.

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A failure that should not have happened.

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A DOJ report on the massacre says more people would have survived if law enforcement had

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responded appropriately.

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Congress passed another short-term funding bill that keeps the government open for now,

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Will Speaker Mike Johnson keep his job?

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And Iran striking targets in Pakistan, and Pakistan targeting inside Iran is highlighting

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Iran's role in the region.

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It's long back proxy forces to protect its interests.

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A failure that should not have happened.

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That is how Attorney General Merrick Garland describes the police response to the 2022

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shooting at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas.

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His comment came as the Justice Department Thursday released a detailed report into the

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school massacre that killed 19 children and two teachers and left many more injured.

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The Texas newsroom Sergio Martinez-Belteran joins us now from Uvalde.

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Sergio, the DOJ report is a brick, 500 pages long, lots there.

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Anything at all, though, that grieving families can hold on to for answers?

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I mean, the biggest takeaway and one of the most heartbreaking ones for the families is

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the fact that law enforcement agents who responded to the shooting treated it initially as a

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barricaded subject situation and not as an active shooter.

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That's huge because when there's a barricaded subject, police are encouraged to negotiate.

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But when there's a shooter, police are trained to use all their tools and do whatever they

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have to do to stop it.

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But in Uvalde, police retreated for a while after the shooter injured two officers and

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then waited 77 minutes to confront the shooter and ultimately kill him.

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Attorney General Merrick Garland was in Uvalde and he told families of the victims that their

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loved ones deserved better.

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The victims and survivors should never have been trapped with that shooter for more than

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an hour as they waited for their rescue.

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Garland said some victims would have survived if law enforcement agencies had followed active

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shooter protocols, the tactics in place since the Columbine shooter school massacre nearly

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25 years ago.

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And he blamed the botched response on the failed leadership of the incident commander,

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former Uvalde school's police chief, Pita Redondo.

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Did the Justice Department ID anyone else as responsible for the failed response?

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Besides Redondo, the report does mention former Uvalde police acting chief Mariano Pargas.

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The Justice Department says Pargas was not trained to be an incident commander and didn't

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demonstrate adequate command leadership during the shooting.

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But the report doesn't name many other names, and that's something that disappointed many

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of the victims' family members.

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The fact is there's still deep frustration here with law enforcement.

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Here's Vincent Salazar, the grandfather of 11-year-old Leila Salazar, who was killed

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at Robb Elementary.

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If you cannot serve and protect the people, these were children.

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All they wanted to do was play.

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There's no reason this should have happened.

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They ignored the training that was supposed to be since Columbine, and they ignored it.

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A key recommendation in the report is following those protocols, like prioritizing taking

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the shooter out and never treating an active shooter as a barricaded situation.

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Sergio, you're there.

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You know how overwhelming the grief is there, and it probably will never end.

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But has this investigation delivered maybe a little bit of closure, any at all, for the

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people of Uvalde?

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Yeah, I mean, that's a difficult question, and it's one I've asked those who lost a

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loved one at Robb Elementary, and the answer is no.

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Kimberly Rubio lost her 10-year-old daughter, Lexi, and you can hear the pain in her voice.

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I hope that the failures end today, and that local officials do what wasn't done that

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day, do right by the victims and survivors of Robb Elementary, terminations, criminal

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prosecution.

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But family members believe this report is a good step in trying to get some accountability,

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and they're again calling on lawmakers to end future law enforcement failures by improving

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police training and passing gun control laws that could help prevent the next mass shooting.

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Sergio Martinez-Eltran is a reporter with the Texas Newsroom.

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Sergio, nice to hear your voice again.

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You're welcome.

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Good to hear you.

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Congress has passed another stopgap funding bill, which keeps the lights on in Washington

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through February.

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It's the latest in a series of short-term extensions passed by Congress after they failed

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to pass the year-long bills they were supposed to pass back in September.

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NPR's Eric McDaniel has been watching it all from the Capitol.

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Eric, we're kind of getting used to stopgap bills.

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Why haven't they passed the full-year spending bill yet?

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Yeah, you know, it's a good question.

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For a long time, politics was sort of the art of the possible, right?

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Compromise was the name of the game, especially in moments like this, of divided government.

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But I'd say over the last 15 years or so, there's been a growing number of Republicans

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who have sort of a different approach.

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They'd rather shut down the government entirely than compromise on policies that they feel

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are insufficiently conservative.

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And they see bipartisan bills, bills that you pass with Democratic votes, as failures.

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And in a Congress with a wafer-thin Republican majority like this one, that group just holds

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a lot of influence right now.

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So what are we hearing from them?

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Well, Speaker Mike Johnson, he's the leader of the House Republican caucus, obviously,

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and he's new on the job, right?

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He's about 90 days in, and he's relied on his sort of early days goodwill to set a bipartisan

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top line spending target, which was a big deal in negotiations with other congressional

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leaders and keep the lights on with these short-term bills.

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But both moves really kind of irked his anti-compromise members, folks like Chip Roy of Texas.

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Here's Roy speaking out against the funding bill that they passed last night on the House

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floor.

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This continuing resolution will fund your government at the same level as last year's

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massive omnibus spending bill that all my Republican colleagues, with the exception

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of two in this chamber, were adamantly opposed to, and they're going to vote for it.

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And look, if Roy gets frustrated enough, he can join with a group of just three or four

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other Republicans and vote with Democrats to fire Johnson and throw the chamber back

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into chaos.

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You'll probably remember something like that happening this fall.

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So Johnson is busy balancing their demands while still coming up with bills Biden could

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sign.

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That's a really hard ask, and so far it's just been these spending bills, the short-term

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bills, that have been possible.

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So what, till March, right, to work on funding?

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That's what we're looking at?

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That's right.

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Yeah, yeah.

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March 1st and March 8th are the two deadlines.

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But they're also working on other stuff, too.

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Immigration, Ukraine deal, a lot going on.

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Yeah, so it's right now separate from the funding negotiations, but the Senate is working

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on an immigration and Ukraine aid deal.

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And in all the ways the House hasn't been working toward compromise, the Senate really

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has been.

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Democrat Chris Murphy, independent Kyrsten Sinema, and Republican James Lankford have

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been hammering away at an immigration part of this deal for months.

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Senate leaders from both parties agree with Biden on the need for Ukraine aid.

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This is all linked together.

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But even if the Senate does get a deal done, right, the question is back to the House,

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where Speaker Mike Johnson has so far backed his faction of anti-compromise folks, and

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he controls what comes up for a vote.

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So unless he has a change of heart and is willing to put forward a compromise deal,

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I'd say immigration reform is probably still going to stagnate.

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And that's been the story in Congress for more than three decades at this point.

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The last reform was 1986.

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Yeah, it doesn't sound...

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I mean, I'd like to be positive about stuff, Eric, but it doesn't sound like there's going

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to be a lot of hope of getting any more legislating done this year, right?

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I think it's fair to anticipate a stunningly unproductive year in terms of legislation.

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But, you know, I suspect we'll see more political stunts and other kinds of inquiries.

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For one, the president's son, Hunter Biden, has just reached an agreement with Republicans

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to give closed-door testimony in the House.

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He'd previously refused to appear behind closed doors, but acquiesced just as the House Republicans

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were preparing to hold him in contempt.

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So a lot to come.

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That's NPR congressional reporter Eric McDaniel.

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Eric, thanks.

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Thank you, Eric.

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As the war between Israel and Hamas surpasses 100 days, a new flare-up of violence has emerged

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between Iran, a main sponsor of Hamas, and Pakistan.

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Earlier this week, Iran struck militants inside Pakistan.

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Then Pakistan carried out its own strikes inside Iran, which killed nine people.

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It adds even more uncertainty in a part of the world central to U.S. interests.

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All right.

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To help sort this out, we turn now to NPR's Peter Kenyon in Istanbul.

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Peter, this is a part of the world that has seen attacks in the past.

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What has happened so far this week on a considerably larger scale?

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What's happening?

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Well, Iranian officials say they were targeting specifically a militant group known as Jay

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Shalatl, and that's in Balochistan, a large territory.

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It straddles southwest Pakistan, Iran, parts of Afghanistan.

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Tehran says it was concerned about the possibility of escalating cross-border violence by the

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group.

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Pakistan swiftly responded with a deadly strike inside Iran's Sistan Balochistan province,

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and Iranian officials say there were children among the dead there.

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There are signs that both sides would be interested in de-escalating the situation at this point.

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But with tensions running high, it might not take much to set things off again.

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Yeah.

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I mean, Israel continues its war on Hamas.

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The Iran-backed proxy militia in governing power in the Gaza Strip.

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And Israel is exchanging fire with Hezbollah.

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That's the Lebanese militant group backed by Iran.

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What might all of this mean for the U.S. and Western approach in Iran?

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It would seem likely to ratchet up tensions considerably on that front as well.

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I spoke with Ali Vayez.

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He directs the Iran Project at the International Crisis Group.

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He says the Hamas attack that left some 1,200 people dead in southern Israel last fall

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effectively rules out any diplomatic improvement in relations with Iran.

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Here's how he put it.

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And also what October 7 has done and what the conflict has done is that it has derailed

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the de-escalatory understanding that Iran and the U.S. had negotiated over the summer

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and has completely shut the door on the prospect of any resumption of negotiations

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about the future of nuclear diplomacy between Iran and the U.S.

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And now with the flaring tensions between Iran and Pakistan,

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there's another potential front to worry about.

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But Iran has said that it was just as surprised

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by the Hamas attack on October 7 as everyone else.

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Does that hold water outside of Iran?

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Well, certainly the people I've been speaking with say it is entirely plausible,

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but that doesn't absolve Tehran of responsibility.

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Iran has financed and armed these proxy militias for years.

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It's hard to see how the October 7 attack would have happened were it not for that.

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But on the narrow question of whether Tehran was behind this attack,

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analyst Sanam Vakil at the U.K.-based Chatham House think tank says there is this general

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assumption that Iran plays some kind of role of a puppet master.

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But that doesn't mean it ordered this attack.

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Here's a bit of what she said.

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Iran has provided financial, technical,

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capacity-building support over a long period of time and deferred to these groups to manage

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relations and politics within their own entities that they operate.

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So it's not a command and control relationship.

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But Vakil also emphasizes that this in no way absolves Iran of responsibility.

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It's the one that gave these groups the means to commit bloodshed

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in the name of resistance to the U.S. and Israel.

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And she says it should be held accountable.

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That's NPR's Peter Kenyon in Istanbul.

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Peter, thanks.

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Thanks, A.

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And that's Up First for Friday, January 19th.

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