Who really runs the world? A stunning interview with Sasha Latypova

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Welcome, welcome, welcome, our wonderful audience. We have felt emotionally and spiritually involved with you a lot these days, because we are struggling to communicate as best we can what the world is facing right now. And, in a word or two, what it's facing is a chaos and a violence, inexplicable things going on in the world, which are all understandable, because what we are watching right now is two empires jockeying for who's going to be in charge of the world. The one familiar to us, with Bill Gates and Klaus Schwab, and the EU and NATO, and attacking Russia and the big trusts and everything we went through with COVID, all that is what I call the Western empire, the Western global empire. They really do want to control us, subdue us and kill us.

This is the truth, folks. So we got to get clearer and clearer about it. And then we have in the West, Xi Jinping and the Chinese communist empire. And they collaborate. Boy, do they collaborate.

So sometimes you can't tell them apart. And the Chinese influence our presidents, they influence our scientific community, influence everything there is.

And if things go on like this, even though China is staggering a little bit right now, they plan a hundred years ahead. And our globalists, maybe Bill Gates does plan 10 years ahead, he planned COVID-19 exactly 10 years ahead.

They don't have the wherewithal and persistence of the Eastern global empire. We have to stop them both. We have to finally stand up for national pride, freedom, our founders, God, everything. these globalists from East and West hate, communist China as an official religion, atheism.

The whole conflagration is about allowing tyrants to rule us, rather than higher principles, rather than freedom, above all things they don't want. Now, today, our guest is Sasha Lakhipova.

She is, par excellence, a truth teller.

I don't think too many are born on this earth. There aren't too many who are born, and it'd be interesting to know whether she was born this way or she became like this. I'm going to ask her for the opening remarks, because she's from the heart of the establishment. This is a person who's been a consultant to pharmaceutical industry. She's somebody who, I would imagine, made a lot of money working with giant corporations and consulting to them.

She knows the belly of the beast, just speaking of our friend, the beast, the book, The Beast. Naomi's book, yes, Naomi Wolf's book. She knows the belly of this beast better than Naomi or me or most other people, but at some point, she started just speaking the truth about this world. She's always refreshing. She's always interesting.

By my perception, so far, she's always right. We agree on so much of the basic underlying principles.

Since I'm so enthusiastic in the intro, I want to give Sasha a chance to just maybe start out and tell people a little bit about herself. It's not like she's new to us or our audience, but maybe start there. I want to know, when did you become a truth seeker?

Hi, Peter and Ginger. Thank you for inviting me. Yes, so your question, was I born this way? Well, I'm trying to think back, and I think I was always like that. I was born in the Soviet Union, former Soviet Union, in Ukraine.

At that time, it was Ukraine Republic, the Soviet Socialist Republic.

So I was going to school there and university, and then the Soviet Union fell apart and Ukraine became independent. I lived through all that collapse of the Soviet Empire, the really big economic hardships. As far as I can think back, I think I was always like that.

In the Soviet system of education, which was very obviously focused on brainwashing and indoctrination into Marxism, somehow they never got to me.

I didn't believe them. I knew they were lying. Actually, I think it was simpler for us. We were at the collapsing empire. A lot of people understood it's a lie, and a lot of people understood that this communism is just propaganda for the rich people to control the rest.

I don't call them the elite, it's just the tyrants that end up in power controlling the rest. People were not really confused, at least in my environment, my family were not confused, which is new to just sort of keep quiet. I didn't always keep quiet, and I got in trouble often for that.

And that's dangerous. in the Soviet Union. While I was a child, it wasn't actually that dangerous. For my parents, it would have been, you could get, of course, fired, persecuted, all sorts of things could happen. So anyway, but yeah, I think I was always like that.

And because I was already kind of jaded and skeptical about the government from early on, I never had big trust in the government to begin with. So when I came to the US, I came to study business at Dartmouth for my MBA program. I loved it. I absolutely loved it. I thought it was amazing.

I thought all these people who were so intelligent, and I was just in awe of the program, of the teaching, of the whole approach, the obvious feeling of freedom that you have coming from something like the Soviet Union into, let's say, Dartmouth in the late 90s. As you may recall, it was a place of total intellectual freedom. And people could say all kinds of things. There was no, you know, there wasn't this thought police running around and wokeness. And you have to be, all, you know, diverse, inclusive, sustainable, all that nonsense that they have imposed now on young people.

And, you know, while I wrote several letters to my business school, because my husband and I were coming back on campus for about 10 years straight, teaching a class in the fall on commercializing medical devices and medical technologies. And I don't think we're being invited back. That's because of me, probably. Because I wrote several times to them. Because Dartmouth actually is key in this COVID mass murder, because part of the technology was developed there.

They received $400 million in royalties from Moderna. I wrote to them about it. And I said, I will never financially support you, because you have never accounted for this. You know, you have never. So they had very strict mandates.

There were some deaths of students on campus, young students. Then they lifted their mandates, but there was never no accountability, no recognition, nothing. And that's because they took the blood money.

You know, so that's kind of my, you know, journey. And I still am grateful for the education that I received there, but I'll never forgive them for this.

This, folks, is everywhere in the world. If you want to know how they managed to control us and roll out lethal vaccines that are causing infertility on top of everything else, and how they did it within days of each other, everywhere around the world, everywhere in the world. This octopus is pouring trillions, probably, of dollars, in order to get trillions plus back, plus more power and glory. I don't think there's any place you could scratch that you weren't one into this, whether it's the church or judicial system, wherever you go, our politics, our educational system. Well, Peter, I just saw an announcement from our local county's health department, and they've rebranded themselves with a logo called One Health.

Oh, no. Yes, in Tompkins County in New York. And they have the whole One Health write-up about- They're getting money from who? They're getting money from- to continue getting your vaccines, especially for the elderly. And they received money to do art murals of a local elder Black woman who was one of the first to get the vaccine, very bravely, and who supports it, and doing this kind of thing for yourself and for your community and family.

I mean, it is a whole-. Ginger, you must be so overwhelmed that you didn't immediately- I didn't have a chance. Grab me by the collar. Yeah, it's been a busy few days. Oh, my God.

So One Health has now arrived on our doorstep. One Health, folks, is that human beings basically are secondary to the environment and secondary- To animals. To animals. We are- With a third leg, maybe. We're on equal footing at the most with animals and with the natural environment.

Yes. Yeah, I would say that it goes natural environment, animals, humans. Yeah, I think so, too. Well, so somebody actually recently on Substack said it. the best way, I think, explaining this whole concept.

They're saying this whole globalist One Health, it's basically labeling not health as health. So, for example, lack of housing. is health now. Right. The energy that's not clean or clean, depending on whose opinion it is, which is not health, is now health.

Plants, which is not health, is now health. So everything, they claim, the entire world- War. War. The hukai announced that Ukraine was a health issue. Yeah, Ukraine is a health issue.

You know, let's say some discrimination at work, it's a health issue. If you're, you know, if you're lonely, it's a health issue. So they claim the entire world as health. And under health, these local bureaucrats that have no business and no authority to make law actually make law. So your health department now makes de facto law, because they're going to say, oh, no, you need to drive on this day, but not on this day.

I need to lock down here. And this is all health regulation. It has nothing to do with laws or deprivation of your rights. You know, that's how they are claiming the world, capturing the world while everyone is, you know, talking politics and distracted. Yeah.

This is brilliant. And one of the first things I did when the whole thing started is I got a couple of text books on public health. And one of the things that was very interesting to me is that whoever the jerk was writing the article, or the three jerks who were writing the articles, were for themselves planning the future of the world, each one of them. And they would talk about how they were going to have to do this and do this and do this, and never, never did these individual articles say, but we might run into trouble with the Supreme Court. But, and there is a Bill of Rights, which would tell us we can't do any of these things.

I mean, it's just, it's gone. It's not in their minds. And they've succeeded, as you brilliantly just described, gone around the whole thing and bypassing government, period. Bypassing government, yeah, by administrative diktat. Yes, that's the administrative state, yeah.

Yeah, I published on this, especially like very scary authority that they give themselves, the CDC and then, down to every health department, including in your county. They give themselves authority to arrest anyone without any cause or due process through quarantine measures. And they already did that in 2020, when they arrested and put into federal detainment, into military bases, about 3,000 people from two cruise ships on absolutely fake pretenses of a PCR, secret PCR test that only CDC had in their possession at the time, didn't allow anyone valid to validate it. So secretly tested, everyone, told them that they were positive or, you know, or exposed to somebody who was positive, based on their own hand wavy rules, and then took those people and put them into military bases indefinitely. And people could appeal their quarantine imprisonment to the same people who put them there, the CDC.

And the medical orders for quarantine were written up by PhDs, not MDs.

PhDs working at CDC. So that's how they do it. And they can do it at any time. There are laws in the United States that allow them to do it freely, anytime and there is no recourse. So that's the scariest part.

And people have no idea that this exists and your health department can do it to you. I never heard this story, but you've heard pieces. Well, I knew that people were retained from the two cruise ships. I knew that much, but I never put it together that way. Of course.

Yeah, we recently FOIAed. So I had a PhD fellow help me to get the FOIA from CDC. They only gave us partial response. But even in the partial response, this was very clearly spelled. These are the papers that they gave to those people.

And they said, we have, you know, we CDC have this authority under these rules and you must go. And people had no understanding. And of course, they were scaring them with this. This is a novel virus. It's very deadly.

You might not feel anything right now, but it's very, very deadly and very scary. And you need to follow us and we'll give you the best treatment. And then, in that military detention, 10 people died. But we don't know from what. Wow.

Yeah. Maybe they gave them my remedy. Well, no, I think they gave them remdesivir and put them on ventilators. And that's how they died. And then they called it COVID and then disposed of bodies and paid off the family members.

Remember, even in the hospital, and again, money, like coming back to money. Remember, throughout this whole time, FEMA would give $10,000 to people whose relatives were killed in the hospital as long as they call it COVID and shut up. And most people took the money.

Burial money. Yeah, burial money. Like I know, Ernest Ramirez, whose child was murdered by vaccine, was also offered this, and he refused.

And some people did refuse. That's how we know about these payments. Now, I want to remind people that the level we're talking about now with FEMA and all, is not the top. It's the concentration camp commandants. It's the leaders of some Nazi sector.

Way. above all of them, where the money is pouring down from are the global predators of all kinds of sorts that we describe in COVID-19 and the global predators. But it's a giant system and these are the henchmen and women of the system. We've been talking with Dr. Fassboger.

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Well, folks, during the break, Ginger Bregan has made another, a number of editing corrections on my performance. First, we never introduced ourselves. I'm Peter R. Bregan, MD. Ginger?

I'm Ginger Bregan. Peter's laughing.

You take over and tell them what I just did. All right. This is America Out Loud Pulse. We're on our America Out Loud Pulse Thursday show, which we do every week for one hour, on americaoutloud.news. And thank you very much to Malcolm, who is the founder and owner of americaoutloud.news, for bringing us into this wonderful platform and giving us this weekly opportunity to have conversations with some of the most interesting and knowledgeable individuals in the general freedom movement in the world.

And this week, we have Sasha Ladapova with us again, and we're very pleased to have her back. Well, supposedly I made a mistake and I called her Dr. Ladapova, but it's not a mistake, because we're representing our non-profit, which we assume we probably are giving money away to the freedom movement, but our non-profit, the Center for the Study of Empathic Therapy, our first honorary degree to Dr. Ladapova. Okay.

Okay. I want my diploma. Oh, sure, honey. I want to display it, like, behind me. Oh, you want a diploma?

All right. We will send you... And I will tell everyone I'm a doctor. We will send you... You must listen to me.

We may have to say honorary on it. Yeah. But that will make it obscure as to whether you're just honorary or you're an honorary doctor. You can use it in any way you want. Okay, great.

That's the deal. Oh, Lord. Um, you know, I'm really glad that we can put this levity into... I think it may be hard for the folks who are mostly, you know, just absorbing all the information that's going on, and they aren't necessarily on the front line, which I don't think there's anything wrong about. whatever choices you make in this crazy world.

It's how you want to live, as long as you're ethical and honorable and, you know, with yourself, your family, your friends. You know, there's very few people who are on the front lines, and there are people who are more on the front lines than I am. Even mostly dead people. Oh, Peter. So I'm not even sure where I'm going with this.

But the stress that is incurred on the front lines is hard to describe. And I won't go any further into it. All right. I don't want to be a loose cannon today. I'm going to sit back.

Okay. Well. No loose cannon from gingerbreading. Oh, my God. What a lot of responsibility.

Sasha, I'm going to have you carry on with your conversation that you were doing prior to our break.

It's a wonderful conversation. You said something to us in introducing the whole thing off camera. You said that the largest

deep state agency in the world is our Department of Defense. Is that pretty much what you said? And I thought it was. Yes, of course. Of course.

Right. So the largest globalist organization. Yes. So it's our Department of Defense, because they have something like 900 military bases with weapons, serious weapons, in occupying various countries. And they had a number of, well, so all of Europe, pretty much, and most recently, Sweden and Finland, who remained for a long time independent.

Now they've signed up to Defense Collaboration or Defense Cooperation Agreement, DCA, where the U.

S. now can occupy about 15 military bases in each country. Wow. Now, is that part of their joining NATO, too? Wasn't that?

Yes. Yes. So that's what happens when you join NATO, you come under our Department of Defense. Yes. And the U.S.

can occupy 15 military bases in Finland and in Sweden, which are small countries.

It's occupation. And the occupation has been, since the end of World War II, the U.S. has occupied Europe and gradually pushed these countries to give up their military, to give up their own defense in exchange for protection. And then this protection also, it's basically the role, the globalist role of the U.S. Department of Defense is to hold guns literally to every government's head so that they accept the petrodollar, the U.S.

dollar, as a reserve currency. It's not the petrodollar anymore. Well, sort of. The U.S. dollar, yeah.

It's the U.

S. dollar. I thought they just announced out of them that Saudi Arabia announced it wasn't going to honor that anymore. I could be wrong. It's only partial.

So there's still the dollar, is still the reserve currency. And up until now, so you're right. So now the structure is shaky and collapsing. It's not clear how long the collapse is going to take. Sometimes they take a couple of centuries.

We don't know. And but in any case, up until this moment, the whole point of having this globalist army enforcement as the U.S. Department of Defense was so that everyone takes dollar as a reserve currency, as a main global transaction mechanism. And that's the power that U.S. exerts on the entire world, the power of the U.S.

money enforced by U.

S. military. My is that it does. the U.S. also have bases, I believe, all over Asia?

Japan and many, many other countries for South Korea. Yeah. South Korea, all over Asia. Yeah. Surrounding China.

So so there's a Russian around North Korea and China, Taiwan. That's why Taiwan is so long. Right. Yeah. So.

and then Africa, of course. So everywhere to U.S. is just the largest. Oh, South America, too. Yeah.

So it's America. So the largest footprint. whenever, you know, they want, they do regime change, like they did in the Ukraine. U.S. did the regime change and started the war.

And, you know, the yeah, when, when, when the Soviet Union was collapsing, I was in Kyiv. I was a student. The U.S. the U.S. embassy occupied several blocks.

And I believe there were at that time were like 600 staff. And then later it was over 1,000 people staff. And this is for a little country of Ukraine. And it always kind of baffled me. Like, why do they have such a huge presence here?

And anyway, so that's it. locations where they need to surround their whatever the enemy is. And and that's where that's how they exert the power. So that's I'm saying, like the duty is the largest globalist organization. For some reason, everybody screams at WEF and Klaus Schwab, but they forget that this is that that's the enforcer of Klaus Schwab.

Right, right. I want to pursue this some more because you're giving me some clarity. I've not had in what you're describing.

One of the things that I've been talking about in the new book, which is very nice, you can tell very much in my mind right now, is that, after World War Two, in particular, the U.

S. became the empire of the world.

And we did it, what you're describing, what you're describing it better. You have data I don't even have in my head about how the D.O.D.

It's not even the words I put in how the U.

S. used bases to take over and enforce the world under the idea of a Pax Romana, that we would control waterways and we would stop the Russians and we would stop the communists and we would conduct all kinds of war. So it would make the people in charge more wealthy and more powerful. And then I say in the book, and I think this is modified somewhat, I say that, I don't know, I think it's true, but I want to integrate it with what you're saying, that actually, due to the wars that we've been conducting, due to the exploitation of our own people with taxes, all the money we're giving around spreading our power, America has now begun to collapse. And that collapse is now under the control of the globalists.

So we've shifted from this America Pax Romana, it's like the Roman Empire, the metaphor comes in the Roman Empire controlling its territory and keeping the peace, supposedly, of course, until they can't afford it anymore, and it all falls apart.

Um, so what stage is the U.

S. in right now? And this is what I've just been thinking about, listening to you, that our presidents up to?

Trump were, on the one hand, deep globalists, the Bushes, I mean, they talked about globalism all the time, more secretly, Clinton, and then, of course, Obama, and that the only president who ever spoke out and said, I'm running on an anti-globalist platform, was Trump, not realizing that what you've said brilliantly, which is he isn't going to run things, it's the DOD. And then, but up until Obama, certainly, our presidents loved America. The Bushes were Americans. They might have been warlike. Well, this is, this is what I'm saying.

So I'll let you disagree, but let me get it out. We haven't had this conversation, that the Bushes wanted America to be powerful.

But there is this other part of the Bushes, the dad spent a lot of time enhancing the U.

N. and the U.N. Army. He was the head of the CIA. He was the head of the CIA, and in his office as president, people don't know much about this, but he was working on, you know, behind the scenes to push power toward the globalists and toward the U.N.

So I'm, but then along comes Bush and he says, no, and then comes along Biden, and the corruption totally takes over the country. Obama. No, I'm talking about after, I'm talking about after Trump. Oh, okay. After Trump comes Biden, so I want to give you my picture and talk about and get your input into it, which is getting sharper this moment, as I'm talking with you about really facing the breadth of the DOD and not just calling it the government in my mind, or the deep state, even in my mind.

Then comes, along comes Obama, who hates America. He's different a bit than the Bushes. The Bushes have more in common with Clinton. They're globalists and maybe even child molesters.

But along comes Obama, who's more of an outright communist, maybe a Muslim. It's rather confusing as to who he is. What guy doesn't know who he is, maybe. He's, he's Satanist, I think. Satanist, yeah, Satanist.

All right. So then it's turned around, and so they have to get rid of Bush, and they, deep state, gives him Operation Warp Speed, and he believes him. And this fits in so well, folks, with something I found. I hadn't, maybe you had found this too, but I hadn't heard anybody talk about it before, which is that the actual initial announcement of Operation Warp Speed was from the DOD. And I, and it hasn't been in the press at all, but we, we talked, we wrote about this, and we did a subset about this, that it's not, it's not the Office of the President that announced it.

It's not the Office of HEW that announced it. It comes out of, in, I think, March 2020, out of the mouth of the Department of Defense. It was even before that. It was even before that, and I, I wrote about this. So, yes.

So, come in and catch me up, Ginger, catch me up, and we have another segment in three and a half minutes. We'll go to, we'll stop, and then we'll go to another segment. But this is enlightening to me, your emphasis.

And I think it's incredibly important. Sasha, you and Ginger, and then I'd like to, I'd like to continue with it when we come back. Yes. So, so about the Operation Warp Speed announcement, and who, who, who pulled the trigger, and really how you determine who was in power at the time, and still is, it's the Department of Defense. So, while official announcement came in, in March, what happened?

on February 4th, there was a phone call that came from DARPA, specifically Colonel Matt Hepburn, to all the farmers in the consortium that's making these bioweapons or poison, poisoning systems and substances that they call vaccines and therapeutics. So, there was a consortium set up by DARPA, anticipating this, planning, this. On February 4th, DARPA called them and said, switch from your pan-influenza model to COVID, because COVID is a national security threat. So, this is way before Trump was notified, briefed. He didn't know what was going on.

He had no idea what's going on. DOD goes ahead, pulls the trigger, says, pharma, go work on COVID vaccines now, on February 4th. At that time, there were like 11 PCR cases of COVID in the US, no deaths. DARPA themselves decided it's a national security threat without any authority, no consultation. It's just Colonel Hepburn himself calls up.

everyone, says, switch to COVID.

So, that tells you who's in charge. Have you written about that? Yes, I have written about that. I have an audio from the CEO of AstraZeneca discussing this particular event. Wow.

Pascal Suaro, the CEO of AstraZeneca, who was discussing this with VP Mark Esser and saying, oh, yeah, on February 4th, we received this phone call from DARPA. Now, this is fascinating. Here's a big issue. Who pulled these little people's strings?

I think they're self-organized. So, again, I'm emphasizing Department of Defense because everybody ignores them and thinks that they're just soldiers following orders. They're not just soldiers following orders. DARPA was in charge of all this planning. DOD has the ability to spend unlimited amounts of money and never have to account to Congress.

I just recently published, so Catherine Austin Fitts kindly contributed an amazing article to my Substack. I haven't read it in depth, but I'm aware of that. I was struck by. you were working with her, actually, at the time. Yeah.

It's wonderful. So she contributed this incredible piece. I just recently published, in addition to yesterday, I published another article in addition to that, discussing in more detail some of the aspects. And it's very, very clear. So the Department of Defense, remember, right before 9-11, Rumsfeld lost $2 trillion.

That's what I was thinking about, these huge losses of money, where it's gone. It's gone to crush us, folks. We have to take a break. Well, that's wonderful. We're going to come back.

Sasha, you can.

. Sasha Latipova, you can take a few deep breaths. I'm going to take a few deep breaths. This might be the most enlightening show I've had, honey, for myself. Yes.

Let's go. We'll be right back.

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And we are on America Outloud Pulse. I had one serious thing I wanted to contribute to this conversation that was occurring at the end of the last break, and that is, I just had this image of the DoD as this, as you've described, Sasha, this huge, huge operation, and it's the largest standing army in the world. And of course, traditionally, I think historically, he who has the biggest army runs the world. Well, I believe that really the question has been, and we haven't talked about this at all, has been who's going to, who's going to put up the biggest army? And you think then that somebody has to go and recruit a whole separate army and throw them against the one that's standing.

But what if you co-opt the army that's already there? So you take the DoD and you completely co-opt it into the globalist pocket, and it ends up orienting in a globalist, in globalist intention. And it's co-opted away from the national America that we know. Yeah. And so, even during Bush's time, when they were, oh, we love America, we love America, what would they do in the world if they're expanding the global presence of US military, taking over the world?

Murdering, murdering people in the Middle East. Doing regime changes, murdering people, bombing civilians, doing all those atrocities. And getting us into endless wars. Getting us into endless wars, doing all this while saying they love America. Well, what they mean is we love our own interests.

Since we happen to reside in America, we have a ranch in Texas, you know, whatever. That's. what we love, is having this power all over the world, exerting this power all over the world. And it has nothing to do with DOD serving us as citizens. They're not serving us as citizens.

They're serving the globalist interests. And while they were serving the globalist interests and getting all this power, my question today is, is this the servant controlling the master now? Because who has the guns and who has the money? DOD, you know, as Catherine Austin Fitts wrote, and I also, you know, follow on recently. So $2 trillion Rumsfeld lost.

Then, in 9-11, they eliminated those offices that had any records of that. Very convenient. With a magical Boeing airplane that leaves no traces on the lawn. And then later, it turns out it's $20 trillion that's missing. And more recently, it's $35 trillion that's missing.

And DOD just now failed six audits, financial audits in a row. They've never, so this was the first six they've ever done, you know, since the history of the United States. And they never planned to comply with any accounting rules or audits or accountability. Their budget supposedly is $800 billion, but they spent trillions without any accounting. And they don't plan to.

They even tweeted about it, that they also tweeted a report that said, well, we failed financial audit and we don't know how much money we gave to Chinese labs to produce bioweapons. On Twitter. OK. So this is in your face, Serbs.

Yeah, yeah. So who has this? Who else has this power and this money? and the guns? Right.

So shut up, peasants. So where does this fit in with in 2010, of the announcement of the Decade of the Vaccines by Bill Gates, with Klaus Schwab, heavily involved, the now King of England, heavily involved, the Wellcome Trust in Great Britain. So the entire what I tend to look at as the Western Empire, what you're changing the shape of it for me as we talk, where do they exactly fit in? Where does Bill Gates support of the WHO and his corruption of various health agencies throughout the world, with his billions and billions and billions of dollars?

Where does he? well? and his? Well, here we go. He was run by the CIA.

He's got close relationships with Fauci, who he's very close to, who has close relationships with the DOD. I'm just trying to track where. Right. So all of these people, they work together. But in my opinion, Klaus Schwab is a puppet and a spokesperson.

in a cartoon character, like he dresses as a cartoon villain, you know. Who are you talking about? Schwab. Schwab. And so characters like Schwab, they're just spokespeople.

They're just somebody to show to the public so that everyone can. And, you know, they have this whole satanic culture and ideology. And part of it is you have to tell your victims what you're going to do. And I think they derive pleasure from it, too, like a sadistic pleasure. Tell the victims, I'm going to kill you with vaccines.

I'm going to poison you with vaccines. And you're going to actually love it and think that I'm saving you. Which most brainwashed liberals think that way. You know, they succeeded in that. So that's what they derive pleasure from.

They're like, you're so stupid that I'm openly telling you this. And you're loving it. You're loving your own death. OK, so that's what they're. That's just so satanic, so evil now.

But I think Klaus Schwab has very limited power. Bill Gates, while he has a lot of money, he also needs people like Bill Gates. It's not his strategy. I think his strategy is aligned with this eugenics and vaccines to poison people, especially like they did it a lot in Africa. I think they're just all aligned now, both financially and ideologically.

But again, Bill Gates wouldn't be able to do anything if DOD wasn't enforcing these policies. If DOD wasn't working with the central banks, who put African nations into debt slavery, and then those leaders do whatever Bill Gates says. So Bill Gates then can go on a mission to poison. But first you need debt slavery. You need to appoint the leaders that you want.

The ones that, like Tanzanian president, was assassinated because he said no to the vaccines. But somebody has to do the assassination, right? So it's not Bill Gates.

So, you know, that's where. that's where the power. Comment on, by the way, I mean, Ginger, we've never heard this depth of analysis in this area. No, and we haven't. But I hope you're listening to this.

And I hope you spread this power around the world. And share it. Share it, share it, share it. There's one point. And that is that, in addition to the DOD, you've got the intel agencies.

And it's that package, I think, of the DOD and the intel agencies that has flooded the technology sector with all the money and support that they needed to develop what they've developed. And the users of the technology, more than any other entity, I think, are the DOD and the intelligence agencies. Yes. And that is what controls Bill Gates. He got his power initially by creating or being handed.

There's a rumor he was sort of handed Microsoft the idea and that he built it from there. But so he's. His mother, I think, arranged the meeting. He's gotten boosts. Got him into all that.

So his family and his family's father was a eugenicist. This is really. His father was a eugenicist. Yeah. Yeah.

So those people are handpicked, like him and I, in my opinion, Elon Musk, too. They're handpicked. For being controllable, because, like Bill Gates, is definitely on the spectrum. I mean, you're a specialist. You probably know.

He doesn't assign that kind of. Bill Gates is 10 years old in short pants, who is suddenly out of maybe, as you're saying, arrangement has gotten a huge amount of power. And he's just wallowing in it. Yeah. To people.

There's no people. There's stats. Yeah. So they need damage on the spectrum. Yes.

Like whatever is called spectrum, damaged individuals who cannot perceive people properly as alive humans. It certainly is not like. Yeah. Notice, Elon Musk. He's in love with the marina because he thinks it will fix every human, because if you read his when my husband reads his autobiography, which is horrendous, Elon Musk was extremely abused by his family, by his father.

He was beaten nearly to death. He was in this sort of Lord of the Flies camps in South Africa where they would throw the children and have them fight each other to death. Frequently, children would die. So he went through all this. He is damaged.

He is so traumatized that he cannot perceive humans as humans. His own first child died from a vaccine. He will never acknowledge it. He got traumatized. And that makes people controlled.

But the globalist cabal is looking for these guys who are smart, who are hardworking, but so damaged that they're easily controlled. And Bill Gates fits the bill. Elon Musk fits the bill. And from then on, they start this, you know, sort of being the face, the technological face of the United States and its exceptionalism and its innovation, blah, blah, while the DOD is implementing their agenda.

Now, if we're looking, if we're trying to look at the locus of power, which may be a mistake, I'm thinking right now, that maybe, instead of thinking locus of power, we have to just see the coming together of a vast number of people with this shared, anti-human, hateful, power-oriented view that all leaders of empires have. They can't get there without having that view. It doesn't matter whether you're Julius Caesar, Genghis Khan, whoever you are, Alexander the Great, it doesn't make any difference. The Bushes, it doesn't make any difference. If you have this view, you do the same things over and over again.

You kill a lot of people to keep control. You terrify people. You get them to conform. And it's a huge, monstrous web. So the question is, should we just be trying to talk, as you and I are today, about the web?

Or is there, as our mutual friend Catherine Austin Phipps says, is there a Mr. Global? And you all have five minutes to do that. Yeah, give it to Sasha. Mr.

Global. Well, A, one, I don't think so. There is definitely a group and various groups. I think it's a collection of different groups aligned along the same ideological and economic axis. And ideologically, it's people who are anti-human.

So they are subscribing to a variety of mechanistic, reductionist.

views that took the soul out of science. starting in about 1600s. They went very, very systematically removing the idea of soul, removing the idea that humans are created by God, that we have this unique and all living things. We have unique property, which makes us alive, which modern science cannot explain. I've been telling to people about this whole nonsense, about bioengineering viruses, is that this all relies on Newtonian, essentially Newtonian mechanics, which cannot explain life.

Because if Newtonian mechanics were correct, you would die a thermodynamic death very, very, very quickly and you wouldn't be alive. But they can't explain how this doesn't happen. And so that's just a small thing, right? But that whole group of people. It's a big thing.

These are big things, you say.

So that group of people, they all subscribe to the idea that we are nothing but just a chunk of matter. And it essentially can be disassembled into small things like viruses and molecules and atoms and nuclear bases and all that stuff. And if we just know the catalog of all this bucket of things, we can then create life. That's their goal. We have to replace God.

We are gods ourselves. We need to create life. And we know how to do it with this. Now, the latest is this mRNA technology and gene editing. Which is all nonsense.

They can't do it. They're just telling you this. And everybody is falling for this. So that's what I'm saying. So that's their ideology.

It's anti-human, reductionist, mechanistic, completely wrong, false. And then, on the other side, they have all the money in the world because they print it themselves. And then DoD enforces it for them. So that's your perfect global structure.

Have you come close to saying this, this clearly before in one of your essays? One, I mean, I write essentially about these issues. I can't tell you that I, just like, you know, wrote something like this specifically. But yeah, I am kind of reading. at the same time.

I'm reading a lot of people who are anti this view, who are very suppressed, not very well known. And it's sometimes even hard. So, for example, a lot of history of the empires is from Arnold Toynbee, which the books are out of print. It's very, very hard to find, even online, and very expensive, because that's what they talk about. That he discusses how civilization, how empires collapse.

And reading him, we're actually post collapse. We're in disintegration of the empire. We're falling into different pieces, different territories and regions, because the big power doesn't have enough. So they've spent so much money and now to bail themselves out of yet another, you know, this COVID bailout now needs another bailout. The amount of money that they need to put in the system becomes so huge that it's unsustainable.

And I think it's actually partially the reason why they want to kill the people, because they need to reduce the money supply. And the money supply is directly dependent on how many people are using the money. So that's another reason why they're doing this. My mouth's open. I read Arnold Toynbee.

I read him when I was very young. I think maybe it came in a book club to my parents' house. So do you remember the date of publication? Oh, yeah. So he wrote a huge, 12-volume history of civilization.

Maybe a summary, a summation. There's a summary version. Yeah. So I have both. I found the 12, well, 12 volumes were collected from different...

We only have a minute. Do you know the date of that? I'll look it up. I'll look it up. It's not a big...

Oh, yeah. So he started in... Yes, he started writing... Like, the publication started in, like, 30s. And then it went until...

I was born in 36.

. Sometime after I learned to read, I started reading. Okay. Sasha Larikova, I'm breathless with today's interview. I hope that...

I don't know if you realize the depth of your understanding on the global level as a part of your identity.

Um, it's.

. But you have an enormously sophisticated model of what's going on. That's right. Sasha Larikova, God bless you. God bless us all.

What an amazing hour to spend with you. Thank you.