S1: Bonus Ep 6 - Intimate Visit
2023-05-04 00:19:14
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Looking back now, I was thinking. I was way too young for us to have a friendship. And as a married man and me, being a single young woman, we should not have had any kind of relationship or regular relationship.
Jennifer recently had a chance to talk with a woman from Spencer's past, and she offers an interesting perspective.
Kind of told not to speak up and I've had my experiences with sexual assault and never spoke up. And I feel it is important to be part of this in some way. I guess that historical piece, another person who may have known him for quite some time. I just feel like there should be as many people that can speak to you as possible.
Well, I completely understand that you guys have known each other since when.
Gosh, it's been about 25 years, so quite some time.
How did you meet?
We met while I was interning for a radio station at the time.
Were you guys kind of seeing each other or dating? how would you describe that in the beginning?
Yeah, in the beginning, absolutely not. He was a married man, had little children, but something did change. Once he did get a divorce. It became a sexual relationship. We always maintained a friendship and it kind of was off and on.
How was he back then?
He was always extremely friendly, extremely giving of his time, very, very positive and always giving compliments. You really felt like he was with you no matter when. Whether we were just strictly friends or more than friends, extremely complimentary. He made you feel so special all the time.
Yeah, and that behavior is so similar with everyone across the board.
Yeah, and listening to the podcast, there was a lot of what I heard that I didn't experience. I guess I'm fortunate that I didn't experience some of those negative things. I didn't see those sides of him. And it makes me really feel for those who were traumatized.
And he didn't to me either.
Yeah, yeah.
For me, I think it's because he knew me enough to know how to speak with me or treat me things like that. I feel like maybe it was similar with you. He knew he might not be able to get away with some of this stuff that he could get away with.
I think you're pretty spot on right there. Because we didn't have the type of relationship where we were so-called committed. So if anything were to go wrong, just bye. And I think he realized that.
So you guys were kind of seeing each other just whenever on and off. Yeah, do you remember him talking about getting married again?
I do, and he was excited, he was really happy to reconnected with you. I do recall that being a joyous time for him. He just really felt that you were his person.
And I think there was a period where maybe he felt, and I certainly can't speak for him. But perhaps he felt like, Okay, this is it all. This is going to stop now, I'm going to focus on this person.
But it didn't stop.
Right?
I know he did some work for you and you guys would see each other. But how did he justify having this affair after he and I were married?
We would check in periodically. I'm like, how are things going? He would tell me about the wine bar that you guys opened and was really excited and would tell me, Oh, she's traveling a lot. But then I would hear sort of things to justify why we could have a relationship beyond a friendship again.
He would say things like, We're not happy. I don't know if he needed to have that in his mind as well, but he certainly sold it. As though you guys were really on the out right, and I know that you're not asking this to shame me, however, it happened.
Right, and I obviously do feel shameful. I would not want that to be done to me. But he's like, Well, my wife is going to be out of town. Why don't you come check out the wine bar on a Saturday?
I thought, Okay, why not? It's going to be harmless. And it wasn't just a harmless, friendly visit, it was an intimate visit. But he certainly sold it. As though you were still living together, you were still on paper married, but emotionally you guys were not together.
Anything after that was kind of off and on. Every so often we would check in and it'd been a long time and I don't know why. I was like, I need to google, and I don't google people, I don't ever google myself.
I never google, and I googled and I saw his mugshot pop up and I was floored, floored. I thought, What could this man have possibly done? I would never, ever think that he would be arrested for anything.
And even when I read the stories and I read the reports, there was part of me that thought. This has got to be a mistake. This has to be a mistake. Because, you know, Spence.
He had all these accolades and everybody loved him. Who would believe it?
Right, everybody has that persona that they present when they want to to the masses. I mean, how many times do you hear people saying I don't believe it? They were so nice.
Right, right, what did you think about the fact that it was a student of his?
I immediately thought he has kids that age. would he want that to happen to his children? I was floored and hearing her story was, I mean, how she was extremely brave to stand up.
Right, I'm hoping by us talking about these things, it will encourage people to speak up.
And to feel safe in doing that, absolutely, and first and foremost, victims have to feel safe enough to say something.
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And I commend you for doing that. I don't know if I could. That had to have been the most difficult conversation of your life. One of them.
He was not remorseful, he certainly sounded as though he was the victim because he was incarcerated. And it's unfortunate because this pattern will just continue. He won't be able to break this cycle, so it really was upsetting to hear him.
I know, I mean, that's my fear now that he's out.
It's so unfortunate.
Yeah, if you saw Spence, what do you think you would say to him or do?
Wow, that's a great question.
The first thing comes to mind is, how dare you, who are you? You're certainly not the person I knew all these years. Yeah, after hearing these stories, I really, really, really feel for these women who have experienced that manipulation, and especially those who were assaulted and were too young.
They were too young.
Yes, to be lied to and manipulated and groomed, and all of those horrible things.
Yeah, yeah, their lives are forever changed.
Forever changed. And I don't know that he's capable of remorse.
I absolutely agree with you, and you're obviously doing this for the masses, for those that are listening to, feel that they can have a voice. But you're also doing a lot for those who have been victims and feel like they have a safe space to speak. So I hope that you understand that as well.
Thank you very much for saying that, I appreciate it.
Yeah, thank you, it's true.
Well, I know this wasn't easy for you. I am grateful, though, that you're willing to speak out. Because I think, especially as women, to be honest, to have these kind of conversations and get past kind of the yuckiness of it and that part. But then talk about the real underlying issue.
Yeah.
Hopefully we'll just kind of keep doing this work. I mean, if we can have more open and honest conversations, maybe we can make a difference.
Yeah, it's my pleasure, Jen. I'm glad that we could speak today.
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My husband and I were opening a business, his first job was that very next day. One of the clients had asked if they could venmo him, so he'd called me that morning, September 29th, 2021. He was like, I need you to set up my business, Venmo.
And I was like, all right, username and password for whatever email is connected to your VenMo. So he sent me the login for his iCloud and as I'm signing in, he frantically calls me back. He was like, Oh, don't worry about it, we'll do it together when we get home.
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