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And I'm Angela Kinsey.

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You know, it's going fantastic.

Uh-huh.

I'm ready for some trivia.

I hope so, because that's what we're talking about today. Season 8, episode 11, Written by Steve Healy and directed by B..J. Novak. How about a summary?

You know, I love it.

Andy recruits the gang to compete in a trivia night in hopes that their winnings will close the gap on their quarterly sales goal. Meanwhile, Dwight flies to Florida in pursuit of a management position. Very bold move.

I mean, Robert did invite him, but I think Robert invites people, I mean, much like Joe Bennett. Uh-huh, maybe sometimes invite you, but they don't really mean the invite.

Yeah, it's like a soft invite.

I think it's a.

What do you call it?

I don't even think it's a soft invite.

I think it's a.

I think it's a non-invite invite.

A hypothetical invite? Yes, okay.

Yeah, Dwight doesn't live in hypotheticals.

No.

No.

Well, fast fact number one, or perhaps I should call it trivia number one, because this will be a little trivia for all of you office lovers. This episode was originally called Clicks.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Called clicks.

Yeah.

Well, I still have my copy of Clicks Look at You, and I reread it. That's right, talk about digital clutter.

Okay.

But back at the office, here's what happens Kelly finds out that Kathy and Aaron hung out over the weekend and she is not having it.

Oh, she was left out, mm-hmm.

She goes to Andy and she says, There are clicks in this office and you need to do something. We can't have people hanging out outside of work, gossiping about work.

Although Kelly's never cared before. No, no.

So Andy calls a group meeting to talk about it, and he says, Listen. It's not against the rules to hang out with people outside of work. But you can only do it in a way that doesn't exclude people, and you can't gossip about work. And then he gives an example, he says, For example, this Saturday, I went to Jim and Pam's house, but it wasn't a click.

At Jim and Pam's house, yes.

They invited everybody over to meet the baby and they explained, Listen, we weren't trying to exclude people. But these are the people who expressed interest in meeting our baby, so we had them over. If you had expressed interest in meeting the baby, you could have come over too. Suddenly, everybody starts confessing who they hang out with outside of work. And this is when it is revealed that Oscar Ryan, Jim and Toby are on a trivia team together. This is where Trivia starts to make its way in to Clicks.

We don't get it.

We don't get it, basically.

They were like, we don't get it.

So Steve Healy and Paul Lieberstein. They kind of agreed. And they did this massive reimagining of this, a storyline, and they decided, let's just lean into the trivia night part. Like that part was so fun, the network liked that part.

They were like, We get that.

We get Trivia night and that is how it became the focus of the episode. But they only had a week to do that.

Yeah, it's a big rewrite.

We did the table read and one week later we started shooting and we get this new script called Trivia. We're like, what, there you go, I like that, all right.

Good fast fact, Thank you our trivia fact.

Trivia fact number two.

Okay.

Steve Healy, our writer, told me that he was very excited to lean into trivia because he used to play a lot of bar trivia when he lived in New York City back in 2003.

Yeah.

He said they also had a couple of ringers that they would bring along. They had this friend who was a super smart attorney who would come out once a month for the big game. How fun.

I want to be the ringer at Trivia Night. I mean, it will never happen, but that's so cool.

He said This was fun because he got to write what he knew, and I always love when the scripts come from someone's personal experience. All right back to Trivia Nights fast fact number three Angela, you said you did a little digging around about Office Trivia night.

They're super popular. You can basically look up your city and type in the office Trivia night near me, and things are going to come popping up.

Yeah.

Trust me, I did one for my area. And Jenna coming up. Not too far from us is a painting with a twist, Trivia Night.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You paint a picture while doing office trivia.

Uh-huh. It is really popular. It's called Paper Company Trivia, and on their website it says, Bring your office coworkers and your world's best boss mug and test your office knowledge at this paper company themed Trivia night.

I want us to go. I know we have to show up at this thing one night. I'm telling you, the sad part is, I think we'll lose.

Really.

We're doing good since we've done this rewatch, we're much better. Remember our trivia with Billie Eilish? I was a stinker.

You did not do well that day, you did horribly, but I did horrible when we did it on the Today show, I froze, I know.

This is the problem.

We could freeze, but we would also be painting and having a glass of wine, I think.

How many people do you need for a team? I don't know. Does it say all right?

I will dig deeper. I just was very excited that we got to paint and do office trivia.

Well, find out, because I think we could maybe recruit a couple of other office mates.

Oh, I bet Kate would go with us.

And Oscar would be good.

Probably creed, creed, you know? Came to my 50th birthday painting party where we painted hummingbirds and he painted a little alien ship with his hummingbirds.

We were like, Wait, where are the aliens? Well, you know, who would be horrible at a trivia night is Rainn Wilson and Rainn? I'm sorry to say this, but you never remember anything.

You're not wrong.

I'm like, Oh my gosh, Rainn, remember that episode where you get hit by the car and you throw up on the hood? He's like, what?

I'll have to rewatch it.

Yeah, once he rewatches it, he gets all these ideas, but like he has no trivia knowledge of the office, none. Brian Baumgartner might be good.

Brian would kick some butt. And then also you guys. If you love office trivia, Dave Koechner is hosting Trivia Nights. He travels around to different bars. And we'll put this swipe up in our stories. But it says, test your knowledge of the office. With the pac-man himself, David Koechner. Teams compete for prizes while also hearing behind the scenes stories from David about playing the hit show's favorite obnoxious paper salesman.

That's pretty cool, I know. Well. Listen, why don't we take a break, and when we get back, we're going to have total silence.

For 14 minutes, enjoy that in your commute.

We'll be right back.

We are back from break. While we were on break, we decided our trivia team is going to be our office ladies team. Sam Cassie, get ready, polish up your the office trivia and get your paintbrushes because we're ready.

Listen, they watch it every week, just like we do. I know this is the team we might actually win now.

Team office ladies.

Yeah.

I'm excited, Oh my gosh.

This is so crazy if we really did that.

That's so crazy. We're going to do it. What if we won? that would be...?

I feel like people would be angry.

That's not fair, it's rigged.

All right, listen, this cold open is very, very, very, very quiet. no one is speaking. In fact, people are signaling to each other to keep quiet, don't talk. We had a fan question from Jacqueline Kay in San Diego, who said a few episodes back, you were talking about the longest silence on the office.

Well done, Yes, Jacqueline. Well done Jacqueline.

I timed it, it's one minute and 22 seconds, this is it.

This is it. This cold open reminded me a lot of earlier seasons when the whole bullpen would get in on some prank together.

I loved it, yeah.

Well, Andy's having a really hard time during this game of being silent because he sees.

A raccoon eating a burger out of a paper bag in the parking lot.

He is trying so hard to act out what he's seeing because this is crazy.

He needs to share it with someone.

He needs to share it with someone. This whole scene, all I could think about was Sam, because Sam loves raccoons. I don't know Sam. You might have watched more raccoon videos than any person ever.

I bet I might have.

I mean, if you go to Sam's Insta Stories, it's almost all raccoon shenanigans.

They're just they're perfect, they're all fat and chubby, and they have little squirmy hands and beady eyes.

I want to know, Sam, what's the craziest thing you've seen a raccoon do? hmm.

I think I'm drawn to the videos where it's like a dumpster and somebody knocks on the dumpster and then the lid opens. And there's like 60 to 70 raccoons in there, like an insane amount of raccoons, there's just thousands of them in there. Those always get me.

Will you send me one of those that I could share in our stories?

I certainly will I absolutely have some saved on my phone, okay?

That was our Sam Raccoon moment of the day.

Thank you for checking in.

You're welcome.

When I was in New York, I was walking through Central Park and I saw a raccoon doing something like this. Send this to Sam, I know, so I videoed and sent him a raccoon. Now I don't even remember what it was doing. But not as interesting as what you just described.

I want to know.

Okay, it's the gym talking head.

Okay, where he explains what they're doing and he has the notepad he holds up. They're on a silent streak. This is their biggest record 14 minutes.

So when he first holds up the sheet of paper, it says like no one has spoken in dot dot dot. He looks at his watch, he turns the pad of paper over, writes 14 minutes and then he holds it back up again for the camera. Tegan L, from Great Barrington, Massachusetts, said I have been waiting since the beginning of this podcast to ask this.

Wow, Tegan. This is a long wait.

When Jim writes down 14 minutes with two strokes underneath to emphasize the point, the sound does not match that many strokes. And from the time he puts his paper down to write to the time we see the paper again. It's less than two seconds, even at my absolute fastest. It takes at least three seconds closer to four to write out 14 minutes. With two strokes underneath, Tegan timed it. It's 11 strokes of a pen in order to write everything, Jim wrote.

Well, I thought, when he was holding up that very first piece of paper, you know, that says the longest streak dot semicolon, I thought I could see writing under.

But he doesn't ever flip the page.

How did he do it? He does flip the page.

No, he doesn't flip it over after he shows it, he brings it down, he writes something, he holds it back up again.

There's no flip.

There's no flip, there's no cut, I don't get it, I can't figure it out, it's driving me nuts.

Yeah, yeah.

I don't know.

I don't know, maybe John has, like, crazy, super fast fingers or something, I don't know.

Well, they clearly added in sound effects because the sound effects are not accurate. I don't know. We also had a fan question from George P. in New Hampshire, who says when Erin asks for a first aid kit during the cold Open, she has clearly cut her hand.

I want to create a little backstory here that doesn't exist.

Okay.

I want to say that Erin harms herself fairly regularly in the office, and Angela has just given up and probably left a kit somewhere for her.

Because Erin's just such a klutz.

Such a klutz, Angela's like, I'm done, it's over there if you need anything.

Mm-hmm, yeah.

The episode is going to begin in the conference room. Andy is writing down things that can be done with paper on the whiteboard.

I loved that. By the way. He's using a whiteboard to talk about how much you need paper exactly. I just thought that was a great touch, I know.

That's very funny. So this is what is written down so far notes, anonymous threats, paper, airplanes, love letters, books and the Infinity Sign.

Andy is doing this so his own employees will purchase paper from the company because there's a gap in his sales goal. They have to sell $830 worth of more paper so that they can reach their sales goal. So he would like everyone in the room to please buy some paper.

And apparently Andy's been buying paper for a while. Yeah, he's been buying $200 worth of paper in his garage for my background catch folks during Andy's talking head in the parking lot. It was very foggy.

We got mail about that, people wondered if there were any fires in the area causing that smoke. That was a question we got, but I couldn't figure out how to find that information.

I think it was just really early, I think it was first thing of the day. Mm-hmm.

We do have that here.

We have that marine layer.

Yeah, mm-hmm.

There was an Andy talking head alt that might have happened here. It's in deleted scenes, and I couldn't help but think of Phil Shea.

Okay.

And he has a detailed animation book that he's made. In the script, it says Andy shows a flip book he made, showing a stick figure labeled Andy, shaking hands with a stick figure labeled Robert. Then exclamation points appear above their heads. As they do a celebration dance. Robert's stick figure says, I am so proud of you, and the 8 exclamation point symbol dances over their heads and they're dancing.

Oh my gosh.

But it's in deleted scenes. So Phil, I did watch it and I saw it and it was really cute.

Well, next up, Dwight is going to pull up to the Sabre headquarters. He's showing up in a cab. I got the location details from Steve Burgess, he said. We shot this at Baxter Pharmaceuticals in Thousand Oaks. It is a huge office complex and we did all of the shooting there.

Dwight is super pumped, he's walking through, he shoves someone, he does, like one of his high kicks in the air, and then he announces himself. To the receptionist, I couldn't get enough of the sabre corporate receptionist. She was amazing, everything she said made me laugh.

Well, we got some mail from Sydney B in Toledo, Ohio, who agrees with you? Who said? I have always been obsessed with the receptionist in Florida. Her character makes me laugh so hard and I want to know everything about her well, her name is Laurel Coppock and she has been on Modern family. She was in crazy, stupid love.

She is, she reminded me of, like a second grade teacher when she was like, How frustrating for you. Do we want to talk about our feelings?

Yes, we also got a fan catch from Ryan C in Mexico. He noticed that there's a hole in the wall behind Stephanie's desk.

And there is.

Front reception, Yeah.

There's a hole behind the front.

It's over her right shoulder. He wanted to know what happened. I don't know Ryan, but now every time we cut to her, I see the hole in the wall. This is what happened to me in this episode, you pointed things out and then you couldn't unsee them.

Correct.

So I'm passing that along.

There's going to be a very funny moment now between Gabe and Dwight, as Dwight sort of takes in where Gabe sits. And he says he's surrounded by shrubbery. Like a squirrel's office. That just cracked me up. Gabe is going to have a talking head. We've spoke about this talking head before because it was in deleted scenes for another episode, yeah.

Let me settle in.

There was a Robert deleted talking head where he shares his assessment of where Dwight is at within the company, and he references the Peter principle.

Okay, yeah.

I'd never heard of this. Let's hear the clip and then I'll tell you what the Peter principle is. There's a funny law of business known as the Peter principle. Every employee gets promoted until he reaches the level of his incompetence. Right now, Dwight, as a salesman, has reached his highest level of competence.

Wow, yeah.

Isn't that interesting?

Wait, so you get to keep moving up and doing well and doing well and doing well, but then the job you end up in is one you can't do well.

Is one that you weren't qualified to do?

Which you only find out once you get the position. But you can't be demoted, so then you just stay in this role that you aren't really fit for. Wow, that is blowing my mind.

Yeah, so sometimes I feel like, if you run into someone who's in a position that they seem totally out of their depth. And you're like, how did they get this job? Maybe they just got promoted into it, yeah.

They were really good at all the other jobs that led up to it, yeah.

It's called the Peter Principle.

Oh.

I know.

Am I a Peter Principle?

No, at what, I don't know.

That's what I'm asking myself. I'm sure I've peter principled sometime in my life where I've gotten some job and then I was ill-equipped.

Oh, I mean, for sure, I mean, there's been a few jobs I had where really, I should have just been like a spokesperson. And then I got promoted to where I actually had to use the skill sets of things I talked about, that I couldn't do.

Well, I loved that, that was very interesting. Back in Scranton, Andy is going to approach Oscar and he's hoping that Oscar can make a little rounding error. He wants Oscar to basically cook the books and cover up the fact that he's $830 short this quarter, yeah.

But you know what, Oscar can't cook the books for Andy today because he's got to get to TriviaCalypse.

That's a mouthful.

Mm-hmm, that's what she said.

Kevin offers to do it, Kevin's happy to make a rounding error, he doesn't want to do it. This is when Andy is going to find out that the prize for TriviaCalypse is $1,000..

$1,000.

This gives Andy an idea.

It does, I mean. Steve Healy only got $25 at the bar when he won.

I know.

$1,000.

So there were two things about this episode that caused a stir. Oh, okay, one actually required NBC to make a press release.

Okay.

Responding to the comments they received, That's later. Okay, I'll save that.

Okay.

But the other one was the fact that Jim agrees to go to Philadelphia without any concern for his wife Oh, and their newborn child at home.

He can't wait to get out.

There was so much mail about it. For example, I grabbed this one. This is like, when the episode aired, I found this on office.

Even if you are, Steve, thank you.

But that was a big controversy that Jim seemed to have zero problems calling out, made the decision to go prior to speaking with his wife at home.

I wonder if I found a little scuttlebutt thing as well.

I wonder if it's our same scuttlebutt.

It happens later in the episode.

That's right.

Okay, all right, let's wait. We'll see if we can surprise each other.

Okay.

Back in the sabre lobby, Gabe is really giving it to the bagel store. They better step it up. Dwight's listening to this conversation and just kind of rolling his eyes, and this is when Gabe is going to share with Dwight that he considers himself. The toilet of the office. Oh boy.

Yes, he's using that analogy as a compliment to himself that he's the toilet. Yeah, very interesting. Well, we had a fan question from Vivian A.

Thank you, Vivian.

My question is, on Gabe's desk in Florida, you can see an SFU hat. is this when we learned that that is the college that Gabe attended? Thank you, well, great catch, Vivian.

Remember, when we did viewing party, I was expecting to see more from his travels.

But I did see the hat. In addition to the hat, he has a framed photo of a knight on a horse, he has some very giant paperclips.

Yes, because it's going to surface later. Someone keeps a drawer of them, apparently, that's right. I saw that as well. Well, Robert is going to ditch Dwight.

Well, our dunder Mifflin folks are about to arrive at the bar for Trivia night. I think we should take a break and when we come back, we will discuss Oscar's reaction.

Yes, and you're going to hear from my friend Brian Gaddis, who played Oscar's teammate.

We are back. And I'm going to start things off with a fan question from Sean P. in St. Louis, Missouri, who said Can we have a location breakdown for the Trivia bar? In addition to this episode, it also shows up in It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. The Always Sunny cast made it clear that at some point, they started filming on the same stages as the office.

So Andy and the Dunder Mifflin crew walk in Oscar spots them and he's like, What are you doing here?

I mean, wouldn't you react similarly?

Yes, they drove all the way from Philadelphia, yeah.

And you know, he's like, I can't believe you guys did that, and Daryl's like, Well, sometimes.

And Oscar's like, Yes, don't you want to leave? and Andy's like, I do not want to leave, I want to win that trivia money.

And Oscar's like, Really, you're going to win at Trivia night at a gay bar? He scoffs. He thinks his team's going to like, ace those guys.

You all know yourselves.

Put yourselves in the right group.

We've got the A team, we've got the backups and then the just for funs.

And Meredith's like, Just for fun with me, Meredith knows. Mm-hmm. Everyone seems to sort of know where they fit in, except for Kevin.

Yes, you know. We had a fan question from Kathleen M. in Davidson, North Carolina, who said I would love to know which trivia team you guys would be on. Angela Jenna, but also your characters. Would you be Dunder Mifflin a team, Dunder Mifflin B Team, or the Just for Fun team?

Well, Angela Martin clearly did not come right.

So she's on no team.

She's on no team, she doesn't want to participate in bar games. Are you kidding?

Yeah, I wonder where Pam would have ended up if she was there. Hmm, I think B team.

I think, you know, Angela Kinsey, real life is just for fun team.

Uh-huh, and I think Jenna Fisher real life. I think I'd put myself on the B team as well because I want to take it somewhat seriously. Like I would be frustrated on a just for fun team where we're not trying.

I wouldn't want the pressure of being on the A team.

So I think Jenna and Pam are the same, we're B team, yeah.

Well, you know, you and I weren't there for the bar, we didn't get to film any scenes there. But I reached out to Brian Gaddis, who plays Oscar's teammate Xander. Because I was like, Brian, we've known each other for years, and I said, Brian, what was it like on the day in that bar? Can you tell us any stories? And he had some fun stuff to share.

That's so cool. ANG I didn't know you knew him, yeah.

I've known Brian a really long time and he sent in an audio clip because Jenna, he's responsible for a very funny joke that made it in the episode.

So after auditioning for the pilot and multiple episodes of The Office, I was totally psyched to finally be a guest star on such a cult show. All the series regulars were really sweet and they came up and introduced themselves to me on set. Which makes stepping into this well-oiled TV machine so much less daunting as a guest star. As far as anything that sticks out in this episode was. I actually pitched a joke on set, which is not common as a guest star, and also not very common to pitch a joke for another character. So in this episode, the trivia announcer busts BJ for being on his phone and says something to the fact of, like, I'm sure you're just checking your dating account? And I was like, Hmm, Grindr was an app that was fairly new in the gay world.

Oh my god, I love that story so much.

I know, right?

Yes.

It cracked me up.

But also, I just love that. Everyone was like, so gay. People will know what this Grindr app is. I mean, it must have been very new at the time. I think we all know Grindr now, right? We all know.

But I like that. He was like, just trust me, yeah.

Well, the trivia gets underway, and it starts with our question about the capital state that was on Ray Charles's mind. Atlanta. And I wanted to give a shout out to our trivia announcer, who was played by Dan Gill, who's a very funny comedian. I went down a tiny rabbit hole looking at his stuff and one of the things that I found very funny was a story. He told on a podcast where they asked him, What's kind of like an audition that you went on? That was a total fail.

Yeah.

He said that there was an audition for a television show and in the breakdown, the breakdown we should tell people is. A casting director sends out to all the agents a description of the character, the person they're looking for for this role. And then the agents go through their files and they're like, Who do I have? who might match this description? I'll send them on an audition, the breakdown said. Looking for a Dan Gill type? So guess what?

He did not get the role, he didn't get it.

Yeah, but then later they brought him back onto the show to play himself. Dan Gill. So I just thought that was like such a funny story, but he's awesome and he's so good in this episode.

Yeah, the next trivia question was quote. You're not an all-star of the NBA, but you did get your game on when you won the NBA's Sixth Man of the Year Award in 2011. Who are you?

Well, guess who's going to get this one, right?

Because it was a really big storyline on Chloe and Lamar.

I loved this.

Well, Andy is going to start to freak out because the A team missed this question. He really thought Daryl and Jim had this one.

Yeah.

I wouldn't have gotten this question.

Same I would have gotten Atlanta.

Yes, I would have gotten Atlanta, you know? It made me really curious about trivia questions, I went down the rabbit hole of, like, what are some of the best trivia questions? There's so many websites that list top trivia questions, and what a lot of them have in common is a mix of information.

That makes sense to me. I feel like you need a sports expert, you need someone who can handle pop culture, but then you need someone who knows, just like historical facts.

Yeah, well, Andy thought he had all that and he didn't. But it did make me curious if Team Office ladies could answer a few random assortment trivia questions that I found on the internet under most popular trivia questions, okay?

Sam Cassie get ready. I need to know this before we go to our painting trivia night. This is our test. Okay, we're ready.

I tried to pick very random different questions, okay, from this website.

And Angela, you just be honest, just say if you would have gotten it right or not, because you know the answers.

I will be honest, I will be honest. Question number one What are the names of the four March sisters in Little Women?

Oh, gosh.

Oh, wow, I get nothing in little women.

Cassie.

Someone named.

Is there a Joe? yep, yep, Joe?

Is there a?

I saw the movie.

Florence Pugh.

I would have gotten three and I probably would have forgotten the fourth one.

Okay, who are they? okay?

Joe and Beth Beth is who passes away, okay?

Sorry.

And then I think the one I would have forgotten is Meg, Okay, Meg.

Poor meg.

I know.

The forgettable one I know.

Sorry, Meg number two in chess. Which direction can a bishop move?

I got this one diagonally.

That's correct, yes, Woo.

Okay.

I might have gotten that one because Cade plays chess all the time, all right. Question number three How many colors will you find in a regular bag of M&Ms?

Six, I have to count red, blue, green, yellow, brown, orange. I think it's six.

Six is correct.

Hey, I'm going to tell you why I know that.

I would not have known that.

As a mom, when we hand out the M&ms, they always want one of each color has to be even I had this immediate picture of six M&ms in my hands.

Oh my gosh, I would not have known that at all. I'm very impressed with your knowledge of M&Ms. All of you, all right. Question number four.

Otters That's correct.

Sea otters Isn't that the cutest thing? They hold hands, That's so sweet when they fall asleep.

When they're tired.

They don't want to be together, they don't want to drift apart.

They also balance rocks on their bellies.

They do, they're very cute.

Why do they do that? just because they like it? Yeah, they juggle rocks on their belly.

Oh my god.

Clearly, we know a lot about sea otters.

Okay, all right. Next question Who was the first woman inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?

I have a guess, I have a guess.

All right, let's hear them.

I'm thinking Janis Joplin, I was thinking, maybe Tina Turner.

Okay, final answer, please.

Can I say Joan Jett? But that feels too late.

Final answer?

Or Bonnie Raitt? Would they take Aretha Franklin? No, I know. Does Tina Turner qualify as rock and roll?

Final answer, please.

Oh, we have to decide team. Have we said the name? Are we anywhere? I cannot give hints.

Write your answer out and hold it up.

All right, let's do Tina, really, I'm nervous.

Final answer?

Sure.

Aretha Franklin Oh, Sam had it.

Why did you trust me? Okay, all right, last question.

What was the first, and still only horror movie to win the Oscar for best picture?

Exorcist, Oh, exorcist, I know you guys are looking at me. I don't know what horror movie won best picture?

First, and still only one.

I think the Shining is a pretty good guess.

What about Poltergeist, too?

I don't know if that made it up to.

Is this when you decided not to use a calculator at the same time, or?

No, this was a different time period, but you can tell I was a lot of fun in college what I did instead of attending parties.

All right, final answer.

I like the shining, Okay, we can do the shining. Stanley Kubrick, right?

The answer is silence of the lambs.

No.

Okay, that concludes our office. Ladies trivia. I hope you played along with us at home.

I'm sure people at home were screaming at their radios.

Horribly.

I think we're a just for fun team. Sorry, Audrey, No.

Yeah.

Oh, that was funny, Ange. Well, speaking of trivia questions and how you come up with trivia questions, Heather H. from California, wants to know How did they write this episode? Did they have to work backwards and tailor questions to the teams? were there any good questions or answers that didn't make it?

I did love that. One of the questions the Einsteins missed was the question about Albert Einstein.

I know that was an amazing joke. Listen. Meanwhile, back in Florida, Gabe has explained to Dwight that Bill, our COO will not be available. He's putting out a fire nine miles away. Gabe is going to listen to Dwight's pitch.

The toilet he's gone to, the toilet he has, and Dwight knows it, but he still commits.

Well, listen, it becomes very clear to Dwight very quickly that Gabe is just flushing him.

But he says, I'm a crap too big to flush.

And he demands that Gabe take him to Robert, California's home.

Yeah.

We'll get to it first. We need to discuss what's happening at the Trivia night and the controversy that was created by one of our teams, the Querenstein Bears. Is that your thing, Ange?

I don't know, I think mine is different.

Oh, we have different tidbits.

When we got here this morning, we thought we had the same surprise.

Now I'm very interested.

Me go first.

Yeah.

So you're going to get an update on how the teams are in their standings. The host is going to give the teams in order of their points, and as he announces each team, you get to see a shot of that team. Oh, it is the same, it is the same.

Is this about a picture? is this about someone on a team?

Yes, there is a moment where we cut to the Querenstein bears, this is where all the guys act like bears. The third guy from the left, wearing a green plaid shirt, set off a fan reaction. So big that NBC had to make a press release. Because people thought that this man was Steve Carell in disguise, making a cameo on the episode. Sam Cassie, I have a picture.

Yes, fans thought this was an uncredited cameo by Steve. Oh my God.

Looks like Robin Williams whoa.

I did read about it and sorry, the way you set it up. I thought maybe the Querenstein Bears had cheated or something, or the math was wrong. And then people were like they couldn't be in the top three or whatever. But yes, I did read about this. There was a whole scuttlebutt after the episode aired.

I pulled one of the comments from Pat M, who said Quote. I think it was Steve, because, first of all, it looks like him, with a fake beard and fake eyebrows. Plus, later on the show, when they showed that table again, he's the only member of the group that isn't seen. I think this is an indication that Steve came to visit. Did the cameo for one day, but didn't hang for the whole filming. This was the conspiracy.

I love that. In this scenario, Steve comes to the set, makes the effort to come, but then dons a fake beard and eyebrows.

This is a lot of effort to sit in and just act like a bear for one shot. And then he's like, that was fun. I'm out of here.

I really wish he would have now.

Well, this really blew up so much so that NBC gave a quote to the Washington Post saying it was not Steve Carell. They had to, like, announce it. Oh my gosh.

That is so funny. Well, you know, when they list the top three teams, I became very curious about what the other teams were. There's a lot of other teams. Do they have names? I went to the shooting draft because I figured this was something that writers would have had a lot of fun with.

Oh, let's hear them, yes.

In the script, the trivia host had a whole rundown of all the scores. Oh, and this is what he would have said.

Ah, all right. We got a fan question from Alexa P. in Oceanside, New York, who said, Hi, Jenna and Angela. I am 15 years old and I've been listening to Office Ladies pretty much since it started. For this episode, I have always wondered, why isn't Kelly on the Dunder Mifflin a team when she clearly knows more about pop culture than anyone in the office?

Same.

This is exactly what Andy is discovering he has completely underestimated the people in his office and their use in a trivia night. I mean, Meredith is about to throw down some great answers, Meredith is going to get one right.

I mean, Aaron, who Meredith calls Princess Ding Dong, is going to get flying jib. I mean, you know, I wouldn't have got that.

I did love when they get to the speed round. And their first team to ring in gets to answer, and so Aaron rings in first. And she's like, Guys, I did my part with the answer. That was a very funny joke. Yeah, well, I think we should head back to Florida because Dwight is going to arrive at Robert's condo.

Yeah, so Dwight and Gabe are going to arrive, and Robert California is having a wrestling lesson.

I guess, yeah. A wrestling workout with Stu, who was played by Peter Gannon. I wanted to know, is this person a real wrestler? You know, you get cast in a role and all he does is, like, wrestle real hard.

I mean, you look like he knew what he was doing. Also, there's nothing funnier to me than what Robert looked like, as he was at first kind of like he looked like a turtle on his back. Yeah, he was trying to, like, flip the other guy over and flailing about, and that's a very small space, you guys.

Yeah, like, between a couch and a coffee table, they've moved well. I found Peter Gannon's resume and it does not look like he is a wrestler. He listed many special skills, which were martial arts, taekwondo, boxing, scuba diving, horseback riding, golf, baseball, skiing, both water and snow.

I don't know why. Yeah, what a crazy job to get. I know what'd you do today?

I didn't have any lines, but that was my job.

Well, I have a question for you.

Yes.

What happened to Gabe?

What do you mean?

I mean, Gabe walked in with Dwight.

Oh yeah.

He said Yay, while they were wrestling, what happened? And then we never see him again. Oh my gosh.

You're so funny, Oh right.

I didn't even notice that. Well, here is what I got obsessed with in this scene, and I'm glad I did because it really pays off. When Robert is done wrestling, he offers Dwight an Oreo from a platter of Oreos because he says, they haven't really improved on the Oreo. Have they? I did a deep dive on Oreos.

I love that he brought him out on a platter and I love that you are doing a deep dive. I'm going to sit back, I can't wait to hear this.

Well, first of all, you know, there's the Oreo and there's the Hydrox cookie. they're both sandwich cookies that have chocolate with a cream filling, right?

Which one do you think came first? I've never heard of the Hydrox cookie, I don't know what you're talking about.

What?

I don't know what you're talking about. You've never heard of a Hydrox cookie. It sounds like something you clean your sink with. Put it in the Hydrox cookie.

Sam Cassie, Have you heard of the Hydrox cookie?

Make sure you put in a Hydrox cookie in your dishwasher once a month.

Cassie has not heard of the Hydrox cookie? Oh my gosh, all right. Growing up, the Hydrox cookie was always kind of like what it was like. The knockoff Oreo, right?

What did Oreo do differently?

I don't know.

But it tastes better, right? The Oreo tastes better than the Hydrox.

I don't know what they did. Well, listen, first error was naming it Hydrox.

The Hydrox was a terrible name. It does sound like a cleaning solution, all right? But Oreos were created in 1912, which was about three years after the Hydrox, which was invented in 1908. Oreos were invented in New York City. And they are so popular that the street in which the first Nabisco factory is located, where the Oreo was first manufactured, is actually called Oreo Way.

What'd they think?

They were fascinated by it. My son has heard of the Hydrox, by the way, and he knew that the Hydrox came first.

I was shocked that the Hydrox came first.

I know, I don't know, but he was like, Mom, everyone knows that, everyone knows. The Hydrox came first.

Hmm.

That, my friends, is your Oreo cookie deep dive.

It's making me want an Oreo.

While I was doing this deep dive, I ate two oreos.

My favorite Oreo is the yellow one.

The lemon cream.

No, isn't there one that's just-?

The vanilla one, yeah, mm-hmm. yeah, it's very good.

I like to put it in the fridge and eat it cold.

You like a cold vanilla oreo fascinating.